Why you're waking up in a panic attack
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- One question we get a lot has to do with wanting to know the reason behind waking up in the middle of the night, or waking up in the morning, with full blown panic and anxiety. Usually when this happens, people will report there was no story, no memory, no desire to run, shake, cry, or move. There is just a high heart rate and a sense of terror. In this video, I talk about what this can be and why we believe it happens at such times of the night. (Hint: It has to do with stored up survival stress bubbling up to the surface)
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Yes! So many people beat themselves up for feeling panic, anxiety.. then it repeats :(
I would fight all of hell I'm the blink of and eye.
.With no hesitations..But waking up with these is like nothing else..I am praying for all of you every night for real..
nah it's so depressing after a while you can't care its just something that happens to you, like life does.
Oh yea
Bull crap
I do this because I feel so alone with it. I have brought this up to my friends and I’m the only one that has this, therefore I feel “crazy” and stupid
It always happens to me within 1.5- 2 hours of falling asleep. I suddenly wake up, sometimes not even knowing who I am, with fast heartbeat and trembling from the inside out. I feel the urge of standing up, and there’s when the panic kicks in. I feel claustrophobic, like trapped in my body. Everywhere I look triggers me more panic. Feel like if I want to escape but I can’t. Feels like the feeling is going to last forever. No coping mechanism works. Feels like I can’t see, but I can see. Feels like eternal suffering. But then it goes away, and I feel stupid. However, it becomes my greatest fear to go to sleep. I can control and avoid anxiety and panic attacks while awake. I learned to do it without medications, since I was 11 years old. But I can’t control it when it happens while I’m asleep. It’s horrifying. It’s like im not part of my body and everything I look makes me suffer, even my hands.
I hope everyone gets healthier and happier by the day.
Hey Complex Concept, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sorry you're suffering with this, it really is a painful thing to live with. It sounds like you could really benefit from this work! It's about moving beyond coping mechanisms, and learning to work with the physiology, and its intense sensations and emotions, directly. I'll encourage you to check out all Irene has to offer and get started! Here's a few links that may be helpful...
Free Resources - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Sample Neurosensory exercises - ua-cam.com/play/PL_tIcR-r0CU5Xss_Mq1buU-tWdYVQksjI.html
Drop In Class - irenelyon.com/drop-in-class-1
Online Programs - irenelyon.com/programs/
Exactly same :(
How does one deal with it.This is the fourth time I have experienced it and each time it feels like I am going to die.Then is goes away and I feel like you said stupid.I can't talk to anyone because I am embarrassed.I feel like I cant control my own life or feelings
@@zenobiagoodman9020 - Seth here with Team Lyon. I'm so sorry your dealing with this issue, yes it can feel very scary. I'm afraid there's no quick fix or one tool that will resolve it. In order to resolve panic attacks we need to get to the root level where that energy is living, which is the autonomic nervous system. So it means doing the work consistently, and over a period of time. It's about totally changing the way we understand, and relate to, ourselves and the environment around us. I'll encourage you to check out Irene's free resources, and get started exploring this work. irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
@@IreneLyon thank you for these resources 🕊
Yes I have been having these morning adrenaline rushes for 18 months . Starting with palpitations ,sweating and uncomfortable wired nerves. But thanks to Irene’s teaching it has been invaluable. As I have put into practice befriending my rush it has been dissipating away. Now they have been starting to diminish .My remedy has been to give thanks to God for a peaceful night and have acceptance going through this . AS I KNOW I WILL RECOVER. MY BODY FEELS SAFE
Amen. I sing "I surrender all" and give it to God. This seems to make it stop soon after.
Hey how are you now?
Finally! I asked my therapist about this for years, with absolutely no suggestions, no ideas, just "hmmmm". Learning WHY our bodies sweat, why our eyes dilate, why our hearts pound out of control - all of the "normal" physiological reasons our bodies react to panic, but for no actual current cause... but "survival stress"? Thanks!!
Hey chinnookvalley! Seth here from Team Lyon. Absolutely! So important to understand what is happening inside us.
@@reginakc Your experience is valid. And I hope Irene's content helps give you insight on that and that you are able to get the support you need.
Here's hoping that more of the world learns the difference and discovers that healing trauma at a nervous system level can have huge impact.
Nicole - Team Lyon
SAME!!!
Right my therapist thinks its from anxious thoughts but I told her I wasn't thinking about anything before bed or when j woke up, no bad dream its just anxiety inside
Im dealing with anxiety panic attack at night n GOd'smercy...God bless
That sounds really challenging chamira. Hope the video had some helpful info. If you want to learn more about what to take to heal, I recommend checking out Irene's free Healing Trauma training. I'll link to it here.
irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
I’m suffering with u
@@wendyw9650 how are you now?
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Appreciate Video! Forgive me for chiming in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard about - Jayceren Fat Result Method (should be on google have a look)? It is a great exclusive guide for learning how to relieve stress and sleep better without the headache. Ive heard some super things about it and my coo-worker at last got amazing success with it.
Thanks to my sister, Amy, for sharing this with me!
I don’t remember life without panic attacks. I had several early traumatic experiences and never had the chance to numb out.
I now, at 46, understand the physiology of what happens and am able to sit with the fear of the fear. My connection to my inner “watcher”, as I call her, has helped me tremendously in being able to allow the chemicals to run their course.
This was a great video to watch and really listen to. I really appreciate someone compassionately discussing the matter of fact realities of anxiety and panic attacks.
It’s a horrific “thing” to feel, but the fear of the fear is what I’ve begun to understand as my signal to go into the process of feeling, observing, and releasing pent up trauma.
Thank you for this. I really needed to hear this as a reminder to keep facing and feeling my reality, my experience, even though I’m terrified of the feeling.
The warmth of peace and joy of blessings to you, Irene!
And more than ANYTHING, thank you to my biggest supporter, cheerleader, and inspiration... my sister, Amy.
I love you so much my heart could burst, as I write this with tears in my eyes. Happy tears. I’m so blessed to be so completely and compassionately loved by you! Today, you’re definitely the big sister! 😁💕
Love your comment. Am also cultivating what I call the observer. Maybe be careful when you call numbing out a « chance ». And please remember it is a different way of experiencing trauma. It is still trauma. And the road back to Self is challenging also....
I recognize myself so much in your comment, especially the fear of fear. I'm realizing more and more how I've used "fear avoidance" as a protective mechanism. In my case I developed many symptoms to steal the attention, ME/CFS. Being exhausted really takes the attention on feelings away, because you're too tired to feel much. Also I've developed personality patterns like perfectionism to escape facing the difficult emotions of being wrong and criticized. The mindbody truly is a remarkable thing, how it does everything to protect us 💖
We live a parallel miserable life...
sometimes this will happen when I wake up I’ll have a panic attack and I feel so scared and just try to catch my breath
How long have you been experiencing this?
Damn i feel this, my heart just racing to 103 bpm when i woke up and i decide to go to my bathroom and wash my fucking face that i think im gonna die today but i think Jesus saved me and i dont understand why is this happening to me :) because i like doing sport things like exercising 6 days a week i work out a lot and walked for 6000 steps per day.
@@yehezkielmelvin6206 yea exercise did in fact help me with the attacks too. Every now and then I still have em but not as often
@@planettiktok3258 I have been doing this. So scary to wake up with a panic attack and feel like you can’t breathe and you literally just try to catch your breath
Have u looked into Sleep apnea? I realized I had it when I would wake up choking and gasping for breath
this is absolutely life changing
So absolutely grateful that you are in this world and playing this part in our collective waking up process.
Bingo! You nailed it! I feel like this is probably what is going on with me. For a year now I have been waking up 1-3 times per night / maybe 10-12 times a month with my heart racing. Sometimes I wake up, then my heart starts to race other times it is already in race mode. Terror sets in because I don’t know what’s happening. The more afraid I am the faster it races. At one point I was at 253 beats per minute as I looked at my fit bit I was wearing. At that point it went faster but I could not look again out of fear. Almost always this happens between 1:30- 4am. Went to cardiologist and checked out great he said it it physiologically. I did have daytime panic attacks when I was in my twenties and I managed to get rid of them on my own. I am now 60 and the panic has decided to revisit me unfortunately. This comes at a time when I am now under the most stress i have ever had coming to me from all directions and though I am tough during the day time evidentially I am not shutting it off as I sleep. This is truly one of the worst things I have experienced in my life. Fear and dread of going to sleep because it could happen. I will fix this and the best way to do that for me is to understand why and to know that I am not alone and others are also going thru this. Thank you for this video. Have you ever heard of anyone else going thru what I am? Any comments you could share would greatly benefit me. Thanks again.
Hi Jen Design, Jen here from Team Lyon. It sounds like you have a lot of awareness about what's happening. It makes sense that this would come up at a time when you have stress coming at you from all directions. This can definitely shift as you take steps to grow nervous system capacity and regulation. Many people come to the work that Irene teaches with similar symptoms and find relief. If you haven't already seen Irene's free Healing Trauma training I'd encourage you to watch it I sense you'll find some answers there. I'll link to it here.
irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
Me to i go through the same thing every night when i wake up in the middle of the night
What did you do to stop it? No matter how good or relaxed I feel during the day I wake up in the middle of the night shaking like crazy and chest pain. The hospital said my ekg test was perfect. I tried working out to see if it helped me sleep well but it hasn't worked. Im healthy weight, 30 years.
Hi, my doctor said my adrenaline is kicking in at night because my glucose storage is low. I have some orange juice with 1/4 tsp of Redmond salt and I take several sips when I wake up in the night with my heart pounding out of my chest. It has helped so much.
Wow I'm going to try that.
That's tremendous news, Irene! So I must be doing something right! I found myself trying to account for it by picking various issues that might fit, but there was nothing to account for that degree of fear, so then I started comforting myself and telling myself that everything was in fact all right, and hugging myself - but I knew this video was here to explain it for me, Many thanks indeed.
This is the best explanation of why we wake up in panic that I’ve heard. Thank you so much.
@@RegisteredNurseL.A. You are so welcome!
Love this, thank you Irene! I´m getting much better at just being with the sensation, but this was definitely a good reminder. Love your work, thank you for helping us heal at this level!
I absolutely LOVE the work you're doing! A few years back I experienced a traumatic event that triggered an avalanche of suppressed trauma & coincided with a spiritual awakening. I scoured through published research, books UA-cam videos ect to find some of the information you share on your channel about panic, trauma stored in the body & rewiring the body & nervous system. I have healed 90% since that time through a variety of techniques including Yoga Nidra. I'm thrilled to see your channel, I know it will help so many people to heal & gain a life they want! ❤
Oh my gosh!!! Thank you so much for this. I am working through my trauma and getting my first panic attacks at night. So glad to know it's a good sign
I was having these a lot when I was under a tremendous amount of stress. I have CPTSD. Meditation, yoga, and getting rid of toxic people i my life helped a lot.
Happens to me sometimes, especially when my sleep hours/hygiene are off and I've gone through stress either in my dreams or right before I had fell asleep the night before. Happened to me way more before I did a good degree of SE/SP processing on a major trauma I experienced during adolescence...
Thank you so much for this insight! It happened to me some weeks ago and I didn't know how to make sense of it. So happy now to be able to explain it to myself.
There are nights when I go to sleep and everything is ok but then at the middle of the night I wake up scared with my heart pounding like crazy.It's also hard to calm down before I continue sleeping.
Thank you so much for putting these things happening to me in prospective, absolutely amazing! It makes perfect sense !
I definitely experienced trauma as a kid with my parents constantly fighting. I remember being woken up to some scary shit. I often wake up suddenly with that same exact feeling but nothing is wrong. It just repeats and it totally sucks.
👍🏼🎯. Yes, thank you.
So that's what it is?
It's making so much sense. This video is so helpful. I feel it right now it's responding, reaching out for my inner adult selfs hand. Wanting just to be held. Thank you for your teaching.
Even while watching this I felt myself have the panic start to fade and start to pass out. I do this most days. I pass out even if I ride the wave, but now I know closer to what it is, thank you.
Wow. This video is SO good, helpful, & informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. As someone who has been struggling with nocturnal panic attacks for about 3 months, this gives me hope.
Your video’s are helping me. I’m finally after years of trying different healing modalities, this is the key to get to ground zero of my emotional and physical traumas. Your work is important for the human race, so thank you for your free content. It’s saving my life, literally. I’m healing a breast cancer diagnosis. 💗💗💗💗💗
Such a clear and helpful explanation. I am both human and psychotherapist, this is so so helpful. I love working with somatics in a trauma informed way AND be able to back it up with psycho-ed for both me and the people I support. Thank you Irene 🙏🏻💕 another wonderful video
Wow this literally happened to me this morning first thing. I had a great sleep and as soon as I woke, immense fear came upon me out of nowhere. I’ve been geeking out on so many of your videos recently as I seem to be releasing lots of old stuff. And here pops up just the video. Thanks for all your efforts. Looking forward to 👌🏼doing the 21 day tune up
Thank you so much for this video, Irene. I have been living this for actually as long as I can remember. In my case I wake up each morning (and sometimes in the middle of the night) with this extreme feeling of terror and panic, combined with lots of tension and pressure in my body, especially in my legs. I can relate to everything you said in the first 6 minutes of the video; my parents were of the ‘old school’ of letting their baby cry without comforting it. I was that typical cry-baby from the moment I was born, most probably due to in utero trauma (my mom felt very anxious during her being pregnant with me, presumably as a result of having nearly died when giving birth to my older brother.)
Thanks for addressing this phenomenon, it’s good to create some understanding in people about this, as it occurs so frequently.
Thank you so much for all the super information, it is so helpful. Blessings
I had a tonsilectomy when I was 5 like you and I still have unresolved trauma from the event. I am very happy that I will join Smart Body Smart Mind this year and learn more about the nervous system and practice trauma integration techniques. Thank you for sharing Irene!
Hey Sofka! Seth here fromTeam Lyon. Thanks so much for being here and for joining us for SBSM. I'll see you in class :)
This sounds EXACTLY like what I have been dealing with. Admittedly less in my life but still I've never had an answer but now I do and I'm so thankful.
Thank you so much tonight I really needed to hear all of what you said. I have found that running my hands under very cold water does help a lot.
Just discovered your videos @IreneLyon . Amazing stuff. My problem is that having wake up anxiety and terror in the middle of the night then waking up in terror NIGHT AFTER NIGHT it's really hard bc my lack of sleep impacts my days. I can't function or do daily activities and end up exhausted. I also then go into FREEZE for DAYS AT A TIME. I can't do anything when that happens. I forget to feed my pets. I'm afraid to do ANYTHING: shower, make food, get water, go to the bathroom or accomplish ANY tasks. I'm terrified to go outside and walk my dog. I just sit frozen in terror on my couch for days, weeks at a time. When I do come out of it I have so much TO DO, just ADLs and tasks that weren't done. Going to watch more of your videos. THank YOU for putting these up for free.
Oh my so very me now. Hoping for the best.
Very helpful!!
I saw this video passing by yesterday, when I watched two of your other videos.
Eventhough I didn't wake up with these intens feelings for a long time, I decided to put the video in a map to watch another time.
Maybe I felt unconsciously that it would be helpful, because this morning I woke up with this intens 'survival stress', as you so beautiful call it. Very scary!
I put on the light, stepped out of my bed and drank some tea. Then I remembered this video and watched it.
I was more than relieved by the way you explained what was (probably) going on.
And I am so grateful for the instructions you gave to deal with it.
I intuitively did some of the things you mentioned, but with the intention to get rid of these terrible feelings.
Now I understand that it's important to stay with the intensity in a gentle way. To observe what is happening (as pure sensations in my body) and to even be grateful that some old stored trauma is coming up for healing.
Thank you (again 😉) for your important teaching!
Love,
Savannah 😘
The Netherlands
Just listening to this and thinking of sitting with the panic is making my heart rate increase. I know I'm stuck in the freeze. I feel trapped. I would love to find a somatic therapist, but even if I did, I couldn't afford the sessions. I just recently found your videos and am hoping I'll find something I can do to help myself. Thanks for all you are putting out there.
Hi Christine. Thanks for being here, this is Seth from Team Lyon. Definitely keep watching Irene's channel - there is a lot to learn and also some videos cover practical ways to work with your system. Irene also offers a lot of free resources for starting the work over on her website here... irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Specifically, I recommend checking out "How to De-Stress in 7 Steps", "15 Minute Neurosensory Exercise", and "4 Surprisingly Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm", as well as any others that draw your interest.
Finally, I hear you that finances are an issue, but if you can swing it I would highly recommend checking out Irene's 21 Day Tuneup. It's the cost of about 2 sessions with a good somatic therapist, and gives all the in-depth education and more practical tools to work with your system. There's a payment plan option too. irenelyon.com/tuneup/
Any updates ?
@@planettiktok3258 I'm doing much better, thank you. Once I cut out carbohydrates, my depression went away and the anxiety is about 80% gone. When I feel it coming on, I can calm myself down now. I am afraid it might return, but for the last several months I've been much better.
Look up the channel therapy in a nutshell
I remember the first time I had a nocturnal panic attack. It was a little less than a year ago and I never experienced one before. I was half asleep and this strange feeling woke me up. As I was laying there I felt my heart speeding up and my left arm felt weird. Then I noticed my left arm was going numb. I then woke up my husband and told him that I didn't feel right. As we were sitting on the edge of the bed, the feelings intensified. I couldn't lift my arm, my head was spinning, my heart was pounding, and the room started getting darker and I knew I was going to pass out. So I told my husband to call 911 cause I thought for sure it was a heart attack or a stroke. I wobbled down the hallway to sit in the front room. As I sat down, my body just started trembling and shaking as if I were freezing and shivering. The ambulance got there and did some tests to rule out stroke and heart attack. They mentioned a panic attack and i said no that's impossible I've never had one before. They were right and I should have listened cause that would have saved over $4000 in hospital bills 🤣 I had experienced a lot of life changing experiences over the past couple years and dealt with past trauma that I didn't face until so late in my life. My brain is changed from the anxiety and trauma I've endured and now I have nocturnal panic attacks regularly. I still wake up thinking it's a heart attack and feeling like this is it, I'm going to die. But if I catch it early and know what's going on, I wake up my husband and take him to the bathroom with me and sit in a warm/cool bath and just have him talk me through it. I don't want to ever be put on medicines. I think sometimes, depending on the person, medicines make them not them anymore. I would love to be "normal" again and not have this constant feeling of fight or flight, but just like depression, it's all about learning to control it instead of the other way around.
Valerie Eshelman Hi Valerie. I’m 60 and the same thing started a year ago for me as well. It is completely devastating. I am now working thru how to fix this and prevent it from continually reoccurring. I pray about it and have started to learn some self help techniques to get it under control. Just thought it would comfort you to know you are not alone. Hugs xoxo from Jen
@@jendesign5537 thank you 🥰 prayer and awareness of what's happening does help. I caught a panic attack before it happened last night actually. My husband kept trying to talk me through it, but bless his heart, he was so tired he kept falling asleep 😂 this has also helped ua-cam.com/video/4QHGYTP5HsE/v-deo.html
Making yourself get up and focus on something else. Hope this helps as well 🥰
@@fgsd3077 exactly and thank you! It is very tiring especially since it can pull you out of sleep and keep you up for a bit after that just calming back down. I go through bits of insomnia just because I hate to experience them as much as I do. I'd rather stay up all night than feel like I'm going to die.
This is exactly what I feel , like I’m going to die of a heart attack 😔 I would always go to the hospital & my heart was fine … FUCK ANXIETY 😟
Thank you for this. Nobody has made this much sense. I wake up with dizziness and that brings more fear to me. It messes me up. I’m drowsy and lightheaded but I don’t know where it’s coming from. I also wake up in the middle of the night in a restless anxious mode. It takes the whole morning for me to find a little relief. I absolutely love to listen to you speak, it reassures me because I wonder if I have a neurological disorder sometimes. Always in an anxiety mode big or small. I hope you continue to make these videos, they are helpful. God bless you for this.
Hi Sylhomeo, Seth here with Team Lyon. No worries, there's TONS of videos already to learn from, and Irene will keep making more. Also, did you know she offers online programs for doing this work? She's got many offerings, from free practical resources, to our 12 Week Intensive, SmartBody Smart Mind, which opens for registration soon! HEre's some links to check out...
Following the steps in this eBook may be helpful for you right away, during those moments when you are waking up feeling highly activated and overwhelmed. It also includes an audio recording of Irene guiding you through the steps... irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
Tons of other free resources here.... irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Her online programs... irenelyon.com/programs/
Hey how are you doing now
Because I also in the same condition
It's extremely useful. Thank you 🙏🙏❤️
My morning episodes are often triggered by dreams. When this happens, it takes me forever to get accumulated, and a part of me still thinks I'm in the dream, and that's when the panic begins.
This came out exactly when I really, really needed it… but I’m only just now discovering your videos existed. It took the pandemic and a few years for me to discover the likes of Gabor Maté and finally begin to understand exactly what was happening to me, a question I have been striving to answer since I was 15 or younger (I’m 32, to date). Thank you for being there when I didn’t know I had you; and more importantly, thank you for being here now that I’m ready to hear it.
This is fascinating. I’ve never heard it explained this way.
Thank you this may have just saved my life
I’ve had this every day since 2017. I wake up feeling like I’m going to throw up and I feel hopeless. Everything feels dark and when I think about the things that make me happy nothing changes nothing feels right. I pretty much have an existential crisis everyday. I recently got out of a long relationship too so that makes it worse. I’m almost used to it at this point. I just ride it out and after 30 minutes I feel normal enough to start my day
Hey there fake gucci belt, Seth here from Team Lyon. Sorry to hear you are experiencing this kind of panic every morning. The exercise in this video may be helpful for you when calming the system - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html
And if you want to really dive into working with these survival responses so you can get to a place where you aren't having these panic attacks then be sure to check out Irene's free resources, and the 21 day Nervous System Tune Up, here are those links...
Free Resources - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
21 Day Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com/
Awesome, I really needed to hear this. I experience this often, I would wake up with feelings of doom and extremely afraid 😱 not knowing where this was coming from. I assumed it was preverbal but wasn’t sure . I would just comfort myself and give myself love and compassion as I would do a little kid.
I understand, so do I but often I forget to securize myself like a parent would do. I gotta say that it is rare that adult didn't forget their child self I feel immature sometimes besides my early forties but it is what it is when there is joy or peace it is so good but when it is bad ... It is so intense..fear with no end and so deep and intense, these last weeks am on panic attacks from morning to the time I go to sleep... Horrible suffering feel so so so desperate
rebel djustice allow yourself to feel the emotion while not labeling it good or bad. Try to stay present and tune into your breathing which is always present. There are aspects of ourselves that has not matured and is emotional stuck, we should not abandon our feelings but embrace them with compassion. Know, there’s nothing wrong with you.
@@marietorri - these may be useful for you too!
irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
irenelyon.com/7-steps-opt-in-IL
ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html&t
I wake up the same way extremely afraid for no reason ?
I’ve been waking up feeling not just high heart rate. But feeling sick…dizzy. I’ve been to many doctors. Many specialists. They all say it’s neurological. It’s scary. It ruins my day. I can’t breathe. I’m scared. Fear controls me most of the time. 🥲
Wow that explains so much . Thank you 🙏
Great video. 👍Same situation, some things that help me, and maybe whoever experiencing this to. Take a break from social media, fake news. Stay away from toxic people, even alcohol. Take time to relax, and try not to worry so much. Breathing exercise, hot tea, helps. Start doing the things that you love to do.
This sounds so much like me. I have been experiencing this every morning for 8 months. Thanks for the tools. I hope it helps tomorrow.
Loved this!
I'm trying to be gentle with myself and my younger parts and allow myself, in a titrated fashion, to feel all the feelings that weren't allowed in my family. I'm learning to pay attention to what I'm experiencing in my body with curiosity instead of shame. When you were talking about infants and CIO, oh my. The rush of desolate sadness and fear made my chest and heart physically hurt and I found my hand on my chest, not clutching but in a comforting fashion. Like you might if you were soothing a baby. Some interesting stuff for therapy this week lol. It also helped me understand why I was so insistent on not letting my son CIO. I was single and 22 and had gone home when I was pregnant and my mother was very concerned that for the first few months he slept with me or in his bassinet within arms reach. I was nursing and it was much easier in that respect but it just felt right for him to be safely next to me. I also felt physical relief knowing that wasn't a feeling my son had to experience.
Last night I had a very detailed dream about trying to keep a little girl alive against all the odds - lots of people trying to kill her - wow! I’m so pumped with Adrenalin today, my anxiety is sky high. It’s the perfect metaphor for my childhood. I need help. I’m 48 and I can’t take this pain anymore. I can’t afford very expensive courses though 😔
I've found so much help in books and also writing. healing takes a lot and therapy and courses are only one ingredient that you don't need necessarily. check out Running on Empty by Dr Webb, Surviving to thriving by Pete Walker, there are many others too
Thank you for this 🙏🏼❤🌷
This, yes, *and* I have found that when people (including me) fail to acknowledge the impact of day to day stress- relationship; work; finances- you can end up waking up with anxiety or a panic attack as well.
Honestly, when I first started this video I was totally annoyed by you ( it wasnt you, I judged you knowing what you were talking about) but I stayed and I'm glad bc you really do have a gift.
She really has such a gift! Thought the same thing as you but I’m realizing now she really knows and understands what actually is truly going on
I had a tonsillectomy at 5. I remember waking in the recovery room with a sore throat, choking on saliva, no family around, and when I tried to get the nurse’s attention she just shushed me nastily because there was a baby sleeping in the room. And my parents definitely did CIO. So happy I didn’t do that with my child. These nocturnal attacks happen every time I have any health issues or uncertainty.
This has been happening to me for the past month 1 earlier and 2 this week. My heart was pounding. Body aches, specifically more in the neck. Cold sweats and shaky hands and unsteady.
Excellent video. I’m Desk omg with this for the last 5 years. Almost daily fir first 3 years… while going through a Benzo taper. Not only absolute terror but I lost most of my memory so I felt very confused and lost too. I’d also wake up with back and joint pain that I’d slowly release by evening only to wake up with extreme stiffness each new morning. Crazy stuff.
Thank you so much!! So helpful!!
You helped me to understand what is going on and to calm down.
This all makes sense...specifically, I frequently wake up in a panic and wasn't connecting the dots...my sister passed in the middle of the night, albeit peacefully, from a long-term illness. It was the same feeling I have now...heart racing, lack of safety, dread, etc. At first, I did not have this problem. But as time went on, these attacks were happening more often. If my body is trying to heal, I suppose it's a good sign...but it sure sucks in the moment, since the feeling sometimes lasts for hours.
Hi DT the PT, Jen here from Team Lyon. It sounds like you're connecting some dots related to your experience of waking up in the night. As Irene discusses, the symptoms can be a sign of underlying survival energy coming up. Often learning to work with the nervous system to grow capacity and to consciously work with the underlying responses can make a big difference over time. I'll link to a few related resources in case you'd like to learn more.
DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html&lc=UgzKvm65Pqe9xARznlN4AaABAg
4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
Thank you for this video, it made me understand some things that happened when I was a child 🙏 I started waking up in the middle of the night in utter panic, thinking I'm never going to exist again after I die, already from the age of 6. It happened often until I was in my late teens, then I started having panic attacks at day time instead. I had no idea back then why or what to do about it. It wasn't until I was 32 when I finally decided to stay present in the middle of a panic attack, and breathe deeply, that it actually went away. Haven't had one since. So I'm wondering what happened to me since it started that early on 🤔 I don't remember ever being seen in that, or comforted. Just alone in bed, extremely scared. I also remember I often checked if I was still breathing, holding my hand in front of my mouth. I feel sad for that part of me 💖 And I've suffered from ME/CFS for 19 years, I do believe it's CPTSD...
I’ve “listened” to this particular lecture a number of times now, in the middle of the night, after waking in a rush of adrenaline, but this is the first time I’ve actually been able to hear the whole thing. I’ve been waking at night for many years. Decades, actually. Only this year has there been this element of an adrenaline rush from feeling myself start to slip into deep sleep state. It’s like a survival response to relaxation, because it’s stronger when I’m falling asleep listening to something soothing ( Irene’s voice, for example). I don’t know if the dread I feel is dread of being so relaxed, or of the unpleasant awaking that follows it? And lately, I’ve noticed I’m starting to dread the dread, which adds a whole new layer of intensity. Something I read in “Nurturing Resilience” just this afternoon, helped me tonight with the dread-of-the-dread; finding and focusing on a part of my body that feels ok. Feeling the intensity of the sensations in my gut and chest, and then feeling the okay-ness in my other parts. Back and forth. This actually seems to have unknotted some of the building tangle of sensation. I’m still awake, though. Not uncomfortable with anxious sensations. Just…awake. The getting back to sleep is another matter, apparently.
You are the first person who describes something similar i have been experiencing since a year: the moment of falling asleep my body abruptly wakes me up with a rush of adrenaline and a movement in a bodypart. If this repeats itself I’m left with a heart that beats very strongly (but not very fast). Just so strong it keeps me awake all night till the morning. No fear, no anxiety, no worries, just the very present heart and some adrenaline in my belly and feeling hot.
Untill now I have not found any description from anyone like this. One night is doable but if it is several in a row i become exhausted. I haven’t been able to link it really to anything (no food, menstrual cycle, stressful day). I do have the idea the frequency is less when since I dropped caffeine.
I haven’t had any major trauma, safe upbringing and never had anxiety in my life. Could it be some very early experiences? Again, I read everyone is having fear with these “attacks”. I don’t have that. Just the annoying heartbeat that keeps me from falling asleep. I do dread going to sleep now…
Thank you. I got alot out of it.
I’ve been suffering with depression and anxiety for months now. Since my ex disappeared on me.
My anxiety feels like withdrawal symptoms. I have anxiety all day but it’s worse in the morning. And the mix of depression doesn’t help.
It feels like I’m in a trap and can’t get out. And just want to scream and escape
Hi so recently I started experiencing this and hell yes definitely feels like withdrawal
Thank you!
That helped a lot !!
Its like relaxing and accepting labor pains and not fight it. It just makes it worse to fight
I actually was having carb withdrawal throwing me outta electrolyte balance the other night. Not quite a panic attack but pretty bad. Realized I didn't eat any carbs hardly that day on top of having some poor sleep the nights before. It is good to realize it was physical and need to take better care of myself especially being pregnant.. in the past I would not have known what was wrong with me in my head and beat myself up. Also wasn't low blood sugar per se, I was at 82 but carb withdrawals different if you drop your carbs super fast.
A cortisol rush. It started happening with me when I hit tolerance while taking a benzo for anxiety. Many people who are tapering and withdrawing from a benzo will have this as a symptom during the tapering and withdrawal and as the body and central nervous system stabilize and heal after the withdrawal period which can take months after the last dose. So that's another reason for this happening, and this reason is completely physiological that can have nothing to do with trauma or stored emotional stress. If it's happening and you're taking a benzo, consider taking a look at your medication.
Hey GinnyW. Great point! Benzos, and the withdrawal from them, can create a lot of these same experiences. Though I think we also always want to ask, 'why are we taking the Benzo in the first place?' - very often it's to help cope with symptoms from unresolved trauma. - Seth from Team Lyon.
I took clonazepam .25mgx3day and it’s been two months since last small cut. I cut too fast (one month)
For the past week am starting to get this rush when I wake up and sometimes I am on the floor. It’s unbearable. Why did it hit me after two months to this level? What can I do to help healing.
Can this take any longer?
Yesterday I took .5 mg lorazepam because I was at the end of my rope.
I took lorazepam before off and on for few years and I had no problem with stoping.
This klonopin is destroying me.
The panic and anxiety is out of this world. Sometimes it last hours.
Yes, VERY true which happened to me a year ago this time. However, because my primary doc caused because he was anxious to get me off Diazepam. The body can’t cope with this.
@@anatino
How does Lorezapam differ from clonazapam? Also did it stop the panic?
Thanks.. 🙏
My mother told me to do the cry it out method when I was a new mother it's been a massive regret as my son has severe anxiety today and I've always had a sneaking suspicion this caused it. It's also the first time I've heard someone mention it. It's painful to hear but am glad you spoke about it 🙏
Wow thank you for this. I wake up most mornings first thing that happens is i start to feel fear and start thinking of everything i have to do and whatever im worrying about at the time and i wish i could deal with fear. My husband says once ive gotten over one fear i find other things to worry about and he's right its a neverending cycle of living in fear
Thought I was the only one ! This at least calms me a bit just t know I'm not going nuts.
So I have c-ptsd, G.E.D., major depressive disorder and as of the past like 4 or 5 months I’ve been waking up every morning already in a panic attack and then I throw up and feel not good all day.. my body feels SOO heavy and tired but I can’t sleep past 5 a.m... I’m in therapy and waiting to see a psychologist but in the mean time it’s brutal trying to just get through each day.. I constantly feel sooo anxious and all these physical symptoms and ontop of it I’m staying with my grandmother at the moment who is not very nice to me and causes A LOT of anxiety as is for me but I don’t have any where else to go right now... I don’t know how to deal with such a negative person and it’s just like a viscous circle and I’m so tired of feeling this way☹️😣🥺🥺 I hope every single person on here who has any anxiety feels a little bit better today❣️
*hugs*
Same here. Think of me protecting and calming you when you're in that bad place.
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Hope your situation has approved since now.
I have panic at night when it’s dark-where I wake up multiple times feeling like I can’t swallow. Yet when it starts to get light during the early hours of the morning I sleep peacefully with no panic at all. Should I sleep with the light on? I never tried but I wonder if that would help. Or at least putting it on and seeing Im safe like you said.
I took my babies in bed with me and was told that was wrong. Don’t care -I did what I felt was right and neither one of them wakes up with anxiety of panic now they are older.
Hey seoreh, Seth here from Team Lyon. Way to go following your impulse and instincts when it comes to your kids! They will be much better off for it :) You could certainly try using a night light, or a regular light with a dimmer set to low, to create a soft light in your room while sleeping. Worth a shot! Also, I don't know if this is the case, but the waking up in a panic with a feeling that you can't swallow, can often stem from surgical trauma and being intubated.
Well it is due to lack of sufficient ventilation and due to this oxygen is less in the place you sleep. At night plants take in oxygen. During morning plants give oxygen. Hence you are able to sleep after daylight. Nothing to do with roomlight. So keep windows open during daytime and also at night if possible. I had similar experience
Seoreh How are you now, did you find something that works? My neighbor had a phobia where she could not sleep in the dark and go into panic. I always wondered why her lights where on late at night despite her being 80+. You might want to look into the that phobia or perhaps there is some trauma. I suggest talking to your Dr or seeing a therapist. Best of health to you!
i have the same problem im 14
@@hypergames233 same I’m 15 dealing with this right now..
Hello Irene, could you please elaborate a bit on derealization and depersonalization? I'm a big fan of any NS perspective and that includes your work! Cheers from Norway.
Love this video. So true and a very interesting look at babies. I always thought it was a crazy old wives tale that we were spoiling a crying newborn by picking them up and comforting them. I was told this wives tale by my in laws when I had my 3 children. I couldn't bare to leave my babies crying horribly in a crib in a room all alone. They were just in my womb with me all the time. I am meant to hold them and sooth them. They are babies for goodness sakes. 🙏❤️
Well, speaking of panic attacks, I want to share what happened to me this morning. I was wondering if you could give some helpful tips and more insight on not fearing the fear.
When I woke up today, I went into a full blown horrifying panic attack. I haven't had one in about 10 years or so. I woke up from an intense emotional nightmare. Which I suffer from, from time to time. I have been having nightmares every night this week. I have been dealing with very stressful situations this month, which I do believe has triggered the nightmares again.
When I opened my eyes this morning from yet another nightmare, I felt foggy, and then I sat up. When I sat up I had this crazy head rush, heart pounding, dizzy, and was shaking like a leaf all over. I was gagging. I thought I was going to vomit and die. I stood up, walked around, and shook my arms. I began doing my controlled slower breathing. I put cold water on my face and drank cold water. It did bring me down from the intense fear. This wasn't my first rodeo dealing with this terrifying feeling, I identified what it was the instant it happened. I have been taught by therapist in the past the steps to calming down and that's what did.
But what I hate the most about panic attacks is you never know when one is going to hit and how bad it's going to be and how it's going to leave you feeling.
It's been about 4 hours since this attack, I still feel a bit unsteady, shaky, jittery, and light headed. I am not in a state of panic but I am left shook to the core as if some horrible trauma happened this morning. Even when I talk my voice is jittery. Now I am crying. 😢
I hate the aftermath of a bad panic attack as much as the attack itself. I don't like the remnants of it. Those body chemicals that linger and linger. The scary body sensations that stick around, that starts giving you health anxiety. Your thankful it's over but then the fear of having another one, starts to lurk. You try not to be fearful of another panic attack but anxiety is fear at its highest. How do we stop fearing the fear? I want to embrace this natural instinct of mine, that I know is just trying to keep me safe. I know it is my stress smoke detector. I know it is a warning for me to take better care of my mental health. I know this could very well be unresolved trauma, stress, and maybe some crazy pms/perimenopause hormone crap too. Who knows? But I get it. I hear it loud and clear. But how do we not allow the panic attacks and the anxiety it leaves us with become yet another stressor?
How do we stop ourselves from jumping onto the anxiety/panic hamster wheel?
Angela - Sorry to read of your most recent panic attack and the after effects. I am Mara with Team Lyon. The path toward regulation and off that hamster wheel begins here with educating yourself about the nervous system, and practicing layering in good regulation daily. If you haven't watched Irene's Healing Trauma videos, start here: irenelyon.com/healing-trauma-freeresources/
If you're able to take the 21-Day Nervous System Tune Up, that will be a good self study foundation for you: 21daytuneup.com/
This rings true for me but I would love some more direction / explanation in very simply practical ways of what to actually do when I wake up feeling like this
This is great .... I will add that people in general with repeated episodes might need to check their blood glucose, may be blood pressure, oxygen saturation to make sure that this is not alarm from the body that something it’s going wrong. Thank u for bringing awareness .
I concur it can happen much worse/more frequently if you are in a fasted hypoglycemic state which for me can be the difference between eating 1800 calories and 2000 calories the day before. Of course that hypoglycemia can come from adrenal fatigue from stored trauma in the first place, but nevertheless I find it a useful tool to get things under control while you work on the deeper issues.
this happens to me EVERY MORNING FOR YEARS. I've told many doctors but none can help me. i feel like im going to have a heart attack. p.s. im typing with one hand which is why i dont capitalize.
Jane Doe same here it’s scary
Me too, panic attacks for 3 consecutive sleeps now,.i hope you feel better now🙂
@@ameinizee9378
Are you still having them?
I'm currently being jolted out of my sleep by panic attacks. I wake up in the middle of the night with a jump, heart pounding ridiculous speeds. I've had anxiety a while and this is a new symptom for me.
It's happened the last four nights. Now I'm scared to go to bed/sleep 😭
@lulubeloo
I never knew a panic attack during sleep was possible until I had one.
I'm having the same thing did you cure this? I just woke up shaking extremely and chest pain. I calmed down the shaking but I'm scared. Hospital said my ekg test was great last time I went.
Im dealing with this every night almost pulse beating fast hard in my neck heart rate beat rapid i go in the kitchen drink water. I do my breathing eventually it stop tomorrow night the same thing
I was put in hospital at five tears for tonsil removals similar to yo but that was70yrs ago, can you imagine how austere and terrifying hospitals were then,I was put in a cot on the ward, we had to use a potty in the cot, we had no playtime or visitors as they considered it would upset us the nurses came around with our meals and drinks we did not have buzzers to get a nurses attention, I can remember lights out and no one was on the ward all the time, they did their rounds at certain times, I remember desperately wanting to call the nurse but territeied to shout out so whispered gently nurse nurse, no one came, I had re occurring nightmares trying to call out and waking myself up terrified for years, this I suppose is what my inner child is still dealing with now, I also had a narrasistitic mother who I had to parent so I also learned to deny my needs or feelings as they were never recognised or met, so I became small and invisible so that I would not take the attention away from my mother. So now I am alone my parents long gone my ex partner left years ago my children moved on with their lives I now don’t know who I am or what I need ,lm long time retired have no friends or social life because I don’t know how to take care of me or my inner child, I find it too scary and overwhelming, so every morning I wake up at all times terrified to face the day fearful of what responsibility and pressure is going to be expected or put on me regarding what to do to feel safe,
I’m getting dizzy and anxious listening to the “why” god help
I burst into tears when the crying baby pics started to show. I was a CIO baby :(
So glad you've found your way to this video David.
I hope it provides some insight and leaves you curious in exploring more.
Nicole - Team Lyon
Yes, I too, those photos hit a subconscious nerve immediately, that it was 100 % an answer that had been on my mind since I was 3rd grade old!
I'm struggling hard everyday, I wish it would go away. I can't live like this much longer
Kelzzz, This sounds really tough. It can take time, and things do often change significantly when we do this nervous system work and you found Irene's videos which not everyone does. I'll link to a few of Irene's free resources in case you'd like to check any of them out. - Jen from Team Lyon
DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - ua-cam.com/video/0ICsbXUCKmM/v-deo.html&lc=UgzKvm65Pqe9xARznlN4AaABAg
4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm... - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/
In crisis? - irenelyon.com/in-crisis/
Love brings up anything unlike itself to be healed.
Totally relate to feeling terror around everyone. The other day a man approached me in the park to sit with me and talk and to the normal person I assume that would’ve felt rly unsafe but to me I noticed that I sort of expected it. It was strange.
This almost made me cry in an emotional way.
OMG!!! Yes!!! Waking up mid- anxiety attack and/ or waking up in very high anxiety first breath before I even open my eyes.
I had to pause you at 08:44
Hohhhhhhhhhhhly mohhhhhhhhley. That one hit me like a tonne.
It is almost 3:30 AM, (and GUESS WHAT!!), and my feeling bad started around 11, so I did a caulm thing and went to bed. I woke sweating and adrenaline rushing and so-on, but none of it being that there is the longest heatwave we’ve ever had going on presently. Part of me realizing the panic I’ve had throughout my life changes its symptoms every decade or so, and this one really gets me angry. I’m tired, and alone, and Panicky. Of course I’m tired, it’s the middle of the night!! And exhausted, because of that plus I’m panicked. What a loop.
A few years ago, when I lay down to sleep, my pulse would race and my body would bounce on the mattress it was so pronounced. One night - after MONTHS of it - I realized what was going on. My system had gotten used to the idea that pressure on my body lengthwise (lying down) was cue to start this behaviour. I yelled at it and told it to bleep blappity kerflewey, and, several nights later it had fully gone. So, I became aware of this all as habit having been formed.
But, occasionally this shite happens, but now we have flippin’ armageddon happening, so, of course there’s a whole other part that’s fodder for hell for me.
Your comment at this point slammed me.
I’m going to listen to this a few more times. I’m so tired. And now the crying has started ...... it’s at about 2% on the back burner but it’s coming, I can feel it in my jaw. Gawd I’m so exhausted. When I was 19 I couldn’t see past my 21st birthday ... things were so bad. No amount of artistic creativity allowed me to see past that age. I turned 50 this year, and I have no clue how I made it. No ‘you’re stronger than you think you are’ is gonna help, my mind don’t work that way, just makes me wanna punch them out.
** I’ve copied and erased and continued this msg twice ..... it’s been about half an hour ... I’m feeling calmer. Less exhausted but still tired. I’m gonna try going back to sleep.
Thanks for being here.
For all of us.
Joe
Guelph, Ontario.
Really you're here with us too Joe. - Jen from Team Lyon.
A few days later... reread what I typed that night, and know how desperate I was by the spelling and sentence structure errors! HA!! (Even if my own isn’t textbook style, I know I would have composed it better. I won’t be changing it, though.)
I did share this upload onto Facebook .... three others took it very much to heart. It is a gem, so, I thank you again.
Joe
Omg same happen to me 1 month every night i feel the pulse and now every noght wake same time 4 with shake hands 😔
I would not have believed this had I not seen myself as a child in a very abusive environment (vision of sorts) one night during a panic attack..
OK, so when I was 5, I nearly drowned in Mexico. My parents weren't watching out for me and somehow I ended up in the ocean in water way over my head. Somehow, I was able to get to the surface where I saw a stranger running into the water to save me. Neither one of my parents even knew anything had happened to me. I remembered this in my late 40s and had never even thought about it my entire life until then. Even then, my parents acted like it was no big deal. Now, for over 5 years, I have been waking up in the middle of the night with panic attacks so bad I couldn't sleep, breath, and I would get cold sweats. I've tried meds that only gave me seizures. I've tried supplements. Nothing seems to work. Although, the severity has decreased but I still wake with that uncomfortable Cortesol feeling in my gut and I have to do breathing exercises to combat it. I'm ready for this to be gone! I dread the mornings instead of being excited about a new day. I have a great job and a great new girlfriend in my life and we have already talked about this some. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated!
Hello, Sophia from Team Lyon here. Thank you for sharing. Moderators are no longer covering this channel. They are, however, active in, and fully support our programs. You can learn more about those programs here irenelyon.com/programs/. This free training is also a great way to start: irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
i’ve been punishing myselft for having panic attacks regularly, while i should be there healing and soothing myself
I’m going to try your technique....I keep waking up at 430 am in a panic
I wake up in the morning after nightmares and the fear/panic stay with me for hours. It feels as though I'm going crazy during these times.
Hey Skarfp, Seth here with Team Lyon. So sorry to hear you're going through that, I understand! I used to have the same kind of thing. I highly recommend getting into this work! Irene offers many free ways to try out her teachings, and if it resonates, a few different online programs that are much more in depth. Here's some links that may be helpful...
Free Resources - irenelyon.com/free-resources-2/
Sample Neurosensory exercises - ua-cam.com/play/PL_tIcR-r0CU5Xss_Mq1buU-tWdYVQksjI.html
Programs - irenelyon.com/programs/
I don't have racing heart just wake up with racing thoughts and emotions, grief and crying. I wake up grieving an important relationship (that split over a decade ago). I don't dwell on it during the day, but that devastation (the loss of the closeness I felt with that person) feels like the root of my pain over and over. I've done some work and know it's also connected to projecting more isolation and loneliness in the future - never finding a connection as deep. Pragmatically and in every outward way I've moved on and had other relationships and I'm functional, but it's like part of me really did die or something.
It does not seem like it is the same as what you are talking about. I feel like I've "been with" that pain SOOOO much and done a thousand cathartic, therapeutic, and wacky things.
Hi Amy Meier, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm wondering if you've heard Irene talk discuss early/developmental trauma? I ask because we're now learning that as young people, we need certain types of care and support in order to optimally develop the pathways that support a sense of connection and belonging. A sense of deep and unending grief can also be common when we have early/dev trauma. The good news is that we're now learning how to support the growth of these pathways later in life. I'll link to a few of Irene's resources in case you'd like to learn more.
free Healing Trauma video series - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
Interview with Kathy Kain - ua-cam.com/video/4RLFmlo2vb0/v-deo.html
Ten things you need to know when healing early trauma - ua-cam.com/video/GVLS_qL4fVI/v-deo.html
@@teamlyon3109 yep. Been watching and listening. Thanks for your reply. I am not able to piece together a "how-to-heal-Amy" though - I guess it costs money but it is hard to know where to put resources and what would be effective. Lot's of options, so little certainty, so little nitty-gritty intimate support. So exhausting to have my brain's hamster wheel constantly spinning on it.
I appreciate Irene's efforts. I am at a depressed and hopeless spot currently. Feeling it for sure. Well practiced at that.
Honestly can't stand the victim frame and have done lots of "creator" actions and faked it trying to make it. I even wrote an anti-Cinderella book and published it along these lines, trying to re-write my life.
Internal programming says life is worthless without a special partner to share it with. I don't know what I can do to change that, I'm not sure it is actually possible on the fundamental level.
Thank you
This didn’t happen to me until I started going through menopause.
I wake up almost every morning feeling completely disconnected almost as if I was on some kind of drug it feels horrible sometimes destroying my whole day and other times it goes away after a couple hours but it’s almost every morning and it’s really getting to me😢I try to just reiterate to myself that it’s just part of my anxiety/panic disorder but it’s hard to believe some days it makes me feel like I’m losing my mind?
So sorry for how you feel now but i guess we're on the same road right now, been waking up in the middle of my sleep for 3 consecutive days now having the instinct of being anxious of progressing my sense of fear into a panic attack and it actually did.. probably hormonal since im on my period now, at the same time maybe due to all the daily stresses we're facing these days?
You’re not alone Elliott. I’m on the same boat. It feels even worse cuz you do lose days on days.. not doing anything. Not being able to! And I personally feel like a failure. My ex recently ghosted me so that’s why I feel this way. I don’t know what to do anymore. It really feels like you’re going crazy. And I hate wasting each day feeling miserable and not being able to do anything. No drive or motivation.
Same here. It is horrible.
Only started after being in hospital at Christmas with flu. Then found out i had a blood clot on my lung. Only was in hospital as a child don't remember much about that hospital stay I remember my mum saying I had a nightmare she caught me trying to climb up the bedroom wall.
Just after I was born (more than 60 years ago), my mother left me crying, and feeded me at specific times a day and night. She told me, in this regime of feeding (Quiet, Cleanliness and Regularity = in Dutch: Rust Reinheid en Regelmaat= 3xR) it took 3 weeks and from than I was a quiet baby. So here's the reason (eh, one reason, there have been more traumatic childhood events, like being 3 weeks in hospital when I was 4 years old) ... that I wake up sometimes, with heart beating, breathe deeply, and very loud screaming, suddenly sit upright in bed! I have learned, is it right that also hyperventilation is a symptom of this fight/flight response? And every time there is a scary man in the bedroom, a dark silhouette. This might be my father, who used to beat me, when I came to my parent's bedroom, when I just could walk , 1 year old.. Thanks Irene, to point this out so clearly! Very helpful to understand myself better; terrible upbringing..
Hi Sequana, Seth here from Team Lyon. Thanks for being here and for sharing. Yes hyperventilation is also part of that fight/flight response. I'm sorry to hear about all that you went through as a little one. Thankfully you are here and have found this work, so just keep on learning and doing the work! Irene has lots of free resources and also two paid programs to support people in this, as well as live workshops. You can find out about all that over on her website.. irenelyon.com/
3:19am- palpitations no emotional component- thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏻🐾