I did this exact build last year and still running it. Dropped my delid 8700k about 12 degrees. Tip: pull the top metal mesh off the top of the case and have exposed top fans, you wont need bottom intake fans at all. Lower the psu with standoffs on the psu mounts. The scythe cooler is the best but the stock fan is terrible and must be replaced. Also remove the rear pcie covers for better 92mm air flow. Im using it with a ROG 2070 super and strangely it ran cooler with the glass panel on. The NR200P is an amazing case.
I bought the u12a for my NR200 with the metal panel. It fits perfectly and with rear exhaust configuration it keeps my 5900x around 70 degrees under prime95 load. Yes, the Noctua is expensive but this cooler will last me easily another two CPU generations.
My U9S by Noctua has been chugging along for 7-8 years. I upsized from an Ncase M1 to this NR200 case so since I have more room, I'm going to replace it with a larger cooler or just go with an AIO.
Extremely useful! I`ve reached 78 degrees celsius with my 5600X while playing GoW, using push and pull right to left, so airflow was intake from inside the case to outside the case. When i changed the orientation, from intake left to exhaust right, with a exhaust fan on top...MAAAAN, IT REACHES 69 DEGREES NOW Only complain is that i get more dust now. Will have to create some sort of dust filter to put at the back of the case. Anyway, amazing tip and explanation. Really worth to check it out ;)
Thanks for confirming that it's the more optimal orientation when gaming. I see Soo many tech UA-camrs do it the traditional right to left way (dave2d)
yep! i have a noctua NHU12S Chromax Black + Noctua fan NF-F12 Swapable for push and pull, and i really didn`t get why my temps were so freaking high...man, this changes the entire game. 10-12 degrees less in a mini ITX build is absurd! Tks a lot for the tip :)
Great video. I'm glad to see more content about the NR200! if I remember correctly, in one of his videos, the guy from Machines and More channel replaced the Kaze Flex fan by a Noctua NF-A12 in the Mugen 5 and the difference in temps was less than 1º C in a overclocked R7 3700X. Maybe there is a significant difference in a hotter cpu like yours. I also have a NR200 paired with a Mugen 5 cooling a 3700X. After some tests, I decided to go with: mesh panel (to bring cool air from outside and help the GPU to breathe) + cooler exausting air to the back + one fan on top right as exaust. No fans beneath the GPU. Temps are good and I can barely hear any noise from my PC, even when gaming.
finaly someone that prefers air cooling, ive been telling all my friends that aio cooling is not where its at, you could get a air cooler and use the extra 80$ for a entire better tier of nvme or gpu
This is a really helpful video. I'm doing my first build, starting from ZERO knowledge, and got the ASUS ROG Strix B660I, and I'm so worried about clearances. I'm going to go with your setup, but instead of the Mogen 5, I'll try the Thermalright Silver Soul 135. A little smaller, but much better heat sink density. The company seems to be very well respected in Europe. Also the cooler came in white, black, and gray. I'll be using Arctic fans. Hope it works! I've got the i7-12700K.
For those wondering: I have my NR200 set up with the glass panel. I have the same motherboard with an unaltered Scythe Fuma 2, and everything fits fine. Enough clearance for I/O shield and RAM. It's even easier with the mesh panel.
Nice video and explanation. I appreciate video like this helping everyone out. I built my NR200 a few months ago and went with an inexpensive 240mm ID cooling AIO. I was about to send it back in place of the a good air cooler since it can't really (by default) be top mounted. And I've pretty much watched all of the videos on air cooling the NR200 and was about to go that route. But since I don't use the glass panel I figured I'd keep the ID Cooling AIO and give that a run. I didn't want to spend a lot for the Noctua A12X25s so I went with the Noctua NF-P12 Redux as AIO radiator intakes and top exhaust fans. I also put two 15mm Scythe Kaze Flex 120mm as bottom intakes. Barely fit below the beastly 3070 Ti FTW3. I kept the 92mm rear exhaust that came with the case. In the end I have 7 fans and a whisper quiet setup. Very happy with the case and end result. Sorry, I made it about me. =P
This video and your post are exactly what I was looking for! I love the SFF but hate the fan noise, so it's been a battle. Anyway, I currently have an EK Basic 240 and replaced those fans and top exhaust in the NR200 with 2000rmp F12 PPC's. Just added a 3060 Ti the other day and it was getting hot in the bottom of the case. After reading your post, I went ahead and ordered a pair of A12x15's for the bottom and will install them soon. I am curious how your thermals are under load. Have you noticed any throttling on either the CPU or GPU? Thanks to both of you for the awesome info! =)
@@wessmithchandler Hi Wes. To this point I've been doing a lot of gaming since I configured this case and I never even here the fans ramp up regardless of what I'm playing. Granted I'm not typically playing AAA heavy hitters on ultra/4K. I've run Unigine Heaven benchmark a few times and my top CPU/GPU (5600x/3070 Ti) temps are at around 64/73. During this test the fans never hit full RPMs and you can barely hear them from 5 feet away. I haven't noticed any CPU or GPU throttling to this point. The only change I may make at some point is to go from the cheapy AIO to a top performer. But right now there's no need. How hot is your GPU getting? From all of the videos I've watched (many!) on this case, the bottom intake fans will improve (a few degrees maybe) your GPU temps but will have no effect on the CPU.
I know this video is a bit old, but Noctua recently released the D12L, a 120mm dual-tower with a height of 145mm, a whole 10mm less than what you're allowed. And by their own rating system, its thermal performance sits square between the U12A and U12S.
Finally got my build after watching tons of videos - and yours definitely helps ! Leaving the build here so you can have another idea to test your CPU and GPU CPU: Intel Core i5 11400F Motherboard: Asus Z590i ROG STRIX RAM: Patriot Viper Steel 3200MHz 32GB (16x2) GPU: RTX 3080 EVGA FTW3 Ultra 10GB PSU: Cooler Master SFX 850W Plus Gold SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB HDD: Barcuda Seagate 2TB 5400 RPM Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L (intake) Fans: - Top: Cooler Master Sickle Flow 120mm x2 (Exhaust) - Rear: Noctua NF-A9 Chromax Black Swap 92mm x1 (Intake) - Side: Arctic P14 PWM PST 140mm x1 (exhaust)
As it happens I've used a similar arrangement for my last two full ATX builds (currently a Fractal Define R5), i.e. with the CPU cooler 'backwards' and the rear fan as intake, with a central top fan for exhaust. I made up a filter for the rear fan consisting of a frame cut from 2mm ABS sheet which attaches via strips of 3M magnetic tape so it can be removed and installed in seconds by feel for cleaning. Effectively, it's a completely independent cooling loop for the CPU, and the central top fan is ideally positioned to exhaust heat from both CPU and GPU. There are also two front and one centre/bottom intake fans (Arctic P14 CO ball-bearing, spinning between 550-900 RPM). Hence it's net very 'positive pressure' with all intakes filtered. BTW, I also had problems with a Scythe fan - the rear intake was originally one of their unusual 14cm counter-clockwise spinning, 7-blade Kaze's (which I wanted because the plan was to 'stack' it in line with the one on a Noctua NH-U14S cooler, I eventually went with NH-D15S dual tower), and like the one in this video it was very noisy above about 900 RPM (unbearable anywhere near its 1750 RPM limit). I replaced it with an Arctic P14 RGB (has the annular ring on the impeller which stops the drone from blade resonance the standard one makes at certain RPM). It's _easily_ the quietest 14cm fan at given RPM/pressure I've tried, including that on the Noctua NH-D15S and Be Quiet Silent Wings, both of which are two or three times the price. ETA the CPU is a i9-9900KF @ 4.9Ghz/1.295V (no AVX offset), in Cinebench R23 it pulls c. 150w, with the rear intake fan at c.1500 RPM and Noctua CPU at c.1200 cores are c 80°C (+/- 2°C) on a warm spring day in the UK. The CPU is going to be de-lidded and direct-die'd soon (using a shim around the die and with the arched Noctua plat lapped flat).
You could use the CPU cooler as a rear exhaust to minimize dust with no issues if you 1. have two bottom fans as intake, 2. have two fans at the top as exhaust, and 3. (optional) setup your GPU so it exhausts more heat through the rear blower (it's what I did with my 3080 FE card).
@@rivie2xwell, this case has filters on all sides except for the back, which is exhausting in this case, so I really don't get what you're saying here
yes! I too don't really like AIO coz of the same reason and moreover, I may go beyond 5yrs or more with the same PC (like the one I'm actually using 9+yrs)...but watching so many AIO builds do make it tempting...
and now there is the scythe mugen 6 , I been looking at other ways to build this maybe put power supply in front and put a slim fan some how on the side were your power supply is, looking at mine it looks like it will fit
Thermalright Burst Assassin (BA) is 155mm exactly. Good quality, price and contact surface. As for rear intake itself, Silverstone fan filters can be found online. Can screw them to pretty much any 120mm fan in all the custom builds.
I just moved my build into the regular nr200 Thermaltake Phantom Spirit 120 SE and a regularly mounted GPU two noctua fans on the bottom for intake couldn't be more pleased with thermals
@@JSyntax Hi, I have a question. I have the same components as you except the GPU (im going for the Asus 3070 ti ROG strip idk what you think about this one, lmk), I would like to know if buying a large GPU with 3 fans will affect the airflow significantly for the bottom two fans.
this is why I don't like doing small builds I wish I would have waited for the max version , I am going to try with 2 of these cases and cut one down to size just for the radiator and put on top
Secufirm is awesome. A close runner up though is the Be Quiet mounting system (which has no name I guess?). It's also very easy. They also make smaller blacked out coolers such as the Dark Rock Slim and it's as silent as can be.
Extremely informative. thanks a ton for this video,. I'm in the mood of building a powerful itx build and Want to see the potential of nr200. This video answered all of my doubts.
I was doing research exactly on this topic, your video is so rich with information, I was about to go with the fuma 2 but now I’ll go Mugen 5 :), thank you
Amazing video,m super informative. I do have a couple of questions if you don't mind answering them? 1. In your case you have two fans blowing air directly into your GPU. Did this help with thermals? I heard, on Reddit and other forums, that it can hurt thermals of the GPU to have some fans blow directly into them like you have there. 2. Do you know of any other PC cases, ATX specifically, that allow for fan installations at the bottom? Phantex's Elite does but their whole case is insanely huge it comes with its own wheel-barrow like box. Lian Li has a few but I'm not much of a fan of temperate glass side panels.
Well done! Tip, JSyntax: Use rubber gloves when working with unpainted aluminum products. The oil on your skin will case a chemical reaction on the metal. Mugen is pronounced "MOO" (like the sound of a cow) "gen" (hard g, not soft g like generation) due to it being Japanese in origin. Scythe is European and the c can be considered to be silent: syth (not Sith, of course!). 11:34 2,000 RPM. You accidentally said 200. ;) 12:24 The NF A12x24 is famous, not infamous, and it is neither the most expensive, considering that there are several fans that nor the most premier, except perhaps for the amazing SS02 bearings. The most expensive fans in my inventory include the SilverStone Air Penetrator 184i-Pro SST-AP184i-PRO, and a Delta fan. There are fans that even more expensive at over $100/fan, too.
I’ve got the Scythe Fuma 2 in my NR200P with the tempered glass panel. There is a couple mm clearance between the cooler and glass panel. (ASUS motherboard Ryzen CPU)
@@JSyntax I've also heard mixed reports about the Fuma 2 fitting or not fitting. I wonder where the variation is coming from. Is it variation in the cooler hight? Is it variation in motherboard/CPU height? Or is it variation in the case width?
Great review, super helpful and you're content is great. I can't help it though as I'm screaming at my screen - I'm not sure if someone has already said something as the video is a year old, but RPM is already plural so you don't need to worry about saying RPMs, it's like someone adding an S at the end of Pokémon, like my mum because she doesn't know what she's talking about. Also, the C in Scythe is silent. Beyond that, your video was so helpful with my NR200 build!
Love the video JSyntax, full of info & enjoyed it, I had the NR200P white back on Release in 2020 & now going back to it again, The Max version of the case I hate due to only vertical GPU Mounting in the Max version & also only in grey colour & price, I am going to install corsair 15mm thickness fans white 'AF120 Slim'
I have a 5800x and a two fan rtx370. My fan configuration is two regular bottom intake. Small scythe back exhaust. Top fan closer to cpu exhaust and the other intake. This way I have cold air in the cpu. And two fans taking it out. Never hit more than 90C
the youtube channel machines&more says its better to have top exhaust and cpu fans exhaust out the back and its not worth having fans on the gpu, he also shows graphs of different configurations for temps, but i also guess hes using the normal nr200 and 3700x. but your video is still amazingly well done thank you for it!
I've heard conflicting reports. Fundamentally, having an rtx 3070 card blow hot air through its exhaust and having a CPU cooler suck in that warm air is concerning!
Tip for you - you mentioned needing special screws if you go with slim fans up top. As it turns out, the gray plastic spacers from a Noctua SecuFirm 2 kit that you use on AMD AM4 are 10mm tall. For me, using Noctua slims that I already had on-hand, with the 10mm spacers, I was golden. Naturally, you've got to have spare spacers on-hand to pull this off, but you can do it without special screws.
Thanks for the video, it provides plenty of information. The choice of components, way of connecting and pairing them is questionable though tbh :D Useful video anyway.
Haven't completed my own build yet, still waiting on some parts (GPU, sigh) but I opted to use the budget friendly Vetroo V5 to cool my 5600X (at 65W this CPU does not require the highest cooling). Despite that I expect the V5 to perform pretty well once I change it's one mediocre fan and slap on two Arctic P12's on it which will definitely fit in a push/pull configuration, drawing in air from the rear. I will definitely try an exhaust configuration too though. If thermals allow it prefer to keep that as an exhaust to avoid dust built-up inside the case. Tinkering a DIY rear dust filter is the other option. Lastly I have not yet checked if the Gigabyte B550I + Vetroo V5 combo allows for two 25mm top fans. It' gonna be close. Great video though, the NR200P is the most flexible ITX case outthere, I wish CM listened to the community and released a v2 that takes our complaints into account (Top AIO, 2mm more cooler clearance, ...) and NO don't start about the MAX.
I used the 212 black edition for my 5800x build 2 months ago. I had to agree that mount design of the 212 cooler was so stupid. But the thermals are quite acceptable and the fan is really quiet as well.
First of all, that's not your IO shield but your VRM heatsink, much needed on a passive Z490 board. Second of all, the heatsink density of the Mugen 5 is optimized for slower fan speeds.
Great video, but I was wondering about the case fan configuration. Would removing the top exhaust fans make a noticeable difference, because according to my dad they don't do anything since the air could just go out the mesh panels.
A little late to comment on this, but theres a decent air cooler called Vetroo V5 thats 140mm ish in height and can cool my ryzen 9 5900x beautifully and fits the glass panel with about 1cm of clearance
17:40 you said that the FE was performing better than the 3 slot aorus 3070, so getting a slimmer GPU and having 2 good bottom fans gives better thermals than having a chonky 3 (or 3.x) slot card? I'm torn between getting a slim 4070 Ti (theres one by inno3d that is 2 slots / 41mm thick) with two bottom fans (hoping that 25mms would fit, would even get T30s if they fit and have enough clearance) or getting a thicc 3.x slot card that would likely not even fit 15mm fans.
If you ever end up using that 3070 on the NR200 it might be better to just deshroud the GPU and utilize the bottom 120fans to cool the GPU, i believe it fits perfectly. I`ve seen it done on a 3080 Aorus Master
My Hyper 212 Black Edition cools perfectly the i5 12600K. Didn't want to spend more than $50 also I can use the glass side panel as I took off the plastic bracket that covers the tips of the pipe.
I think the problem is - this case just doesn't have inherently great cooling so you are always battling that. Glass sides, flat front, not much air in or out apart from the top or bottom.
Thanks for the vid. I purchased the NR200p and I was able to get my hands on a 3070 so this is really close to my future build. I went with a Noctua NH-U9S for the clearance. Hopefully it cools the Ryzen 7 5800X well enough!
@@egocd It gets along great. I have two 120mm fans at the bottom acting as an intake and two 120mm fans at the top as an exhaust. Even with the tempered glass side panel on, I'm getting around 50°C on idle and just above 60° under load.
@@egocd Yeah that statement is pure BS, I recently bought a 5800x paired it with a Noctua U12 Chroma Black with 2x Arctic Bionic 120mm fans and on Cinebench it hits 82C and Gaming on a 240Hz Monitor - Battlefield V 170+ FPS it hovers from 75-79C depends on the map.
It's because the gpu blows hot air inside the case. We want to draw cool ambient air from the rear of the case. If the fans were oriented to the rear, it would be drawing the heat from the video card onto the cpu, which is not ideal.
Great video man. Exactly what I was looking for. Questions: How about using the heatsink with horizontal orientation and pulling air from bottom and exhausting in the back? I mean, I am considering a lower TDP cpu. Does Schyte support mounting it this way and would the ram clear ? And does this case support 14mm bottom fans? Thanks!
It may have helped your Temps if you mounted the CPU cooler 120 mm fan blowing toward the back (through the cooler) instead of the 120 mm and the 90 mm fans pulling air in opposite directions...
@@JSyntax From what I seen the way you mounted the 120 mm fan on the CPU heatsink, the airflow is flowing away from the heatsink toward the power supply. Heatsinks work more effectively when you push air through them. Pulling air through them doesn't work as well. Also, the 90 mm fan is drawing air the opposite direction out the rear of the case so in essence the two fans are fighting each other. If you redirect the 120 mm you will have better airflow out the rear of the case and lower CPU temps.
I’m using the bequiet aio in my nr200p build. This aio is interesting as the pump is at the radiator side which allows bottom placement for the radiator but I mount it at the side bracket. Not using the tg panel and my cpu is running cool at 68-70 degree with Ryzen 5600x at load and cpu temp at 72-74 degrees. I do swap out all the fans with noctua a12x15 fans n I did not mount any fans at the bottom cause my 3080:is too big .
Very informative. Gonna be doing this for my first build. Wondering how did you connect the 92mm fan? Did you use a splitter connected with the front noctua fan or did you use a fan hub?
Thank you for this vid because I’m building a sff pc build and this vid helps me with what cpu cooler I should choose but my budget and gpu and UGHHHH everything is falling apart ;-; new egg 🥚 why you do this to me… and this is my first time to build a pc too
Can I build this if I have the i5 9400 Intel Processor? I also have a 600w power supply. The motherboard is an MSI B360i Gaming Pro. I also just ordered the Corsair Vengeance RBG Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600. Then I have the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti. I'm basically trying to move the parts I have now in my PC to this new case. My ex boyfriend built the PC I'm on now and I have no idea what else I would need or where to even begin!
Goddamn it, I wanted to post a video similar to this but F it. This was by far better than mine. And now you helped me and a ton of people. This is exactly what I've been looking for!
@@JSyntax I can't compete with your quality of video lol. But I will try to get a capable camera and start an even smaller build in the future, once I can find half sized gpus.
@@JSyntax I seriously didn't know this about the cooler height man so thanks a lot1 The Hyper 212 RGB was actually one of the choices saved in my basket haha
@@JSyntax I wonder if the stock cooler is 'enough' for the 12400 I'm going to use it with along with the two standard fans up top, and an extra at the rear 🤔 There's certainly no clearance issues with that :-)
agree with the intake at the rear case. i was using wraith prism with my 5600x and i tried both ways but with intake on the rear i got 5-6deg cooler temp load when gaming
@@JSyntax yes i have a rtx 3080 galax, im not able to fit even a slim fan as intake underneath due to the size of the GPU so i am dependant on the 3 gpu fans. also im using an aorus b550ipro ax so my cpu socket height would not allow me to fit my QL120 or even a kaze flex on top of the heatsink. i can only use a slim fan for that but im not planning to add that in for now as my current temps are fine with 1 exhaust on the top. so i have 3 fans running now, QL120 for the to right, intake on the heatsink using the QL120 as well for aesthetics and one arctic p9 sandwiched as intake btwn the case and mugen 5 and the vrm dont allow for 120 fans
I got my hands an a mugen black 5s. I have choice to either add an extra 120mm fan on the block, or go for a 90mm on the back of the case or both? What do you suggest?
I'm honestly surprised the scythe even fits with the glass panel. Coolermaster's website says it's CPU clearance is 153mm. Scythes website of the Scythe has it's height at 154.5mm. Yet you managed to close the glass panel on it? Is the steel caps on the scythe touching the glass? I have the same cooler in a micro ATX build and looking to reuse it for an itx build. Would like you to shed some light on this.
How does this build do during idle or light usage? I'm trying to decide between this setup and the nr200 max with the water cooler, with the big disadvantage of the water cooler for me being the pump noise during idle. But if this setup is louder than the pump noise during idle, I would just go with water cooling. Thank you! Great video!
If I may ask, why didn't you use a slim fan (like noctua a12) rather than the noctua 92mm fan? Great video btw, I'm also planning for an nr200p build! but deciding whether to use scythe fuma 2 or mugen 5.
i dont think it'd fit with the tall io shield/vrm heat sinks :( -- im not 100% sure a12 slim would fit there. TY btw! What CPU are you cooling? I personally would be curious to do a mugen 5 vs fuma 2
Good video. In terms of airflow for my RTX 3070 Vision (Horizontally, fans at the bottom), do you still recommend the airflow you suggested with intake from the back. Currently I have a stock AMD Cooler, I will replace with a Mugen 5 that I have. I have a 92mm NF-A9 fan and two slim Notcua 4 pin fans at the botton for intake. I have 2 top Cooler Master White sickle flow fans to exhaust.
Russian version. Without glass. Economical version. You will only need two fans. There are only two fans per case at the top. Noctua NF-A12X25-PWM or equivalent. Wind direction to the inside of the computer case. The video card is horizontal, the case is without glass. You can use any CPU cooler. The hot air from the video card goes into the side grilles. Cold air for the video card from below. All the hot air from the processor is blown away by air from the upper fans and also leaves on the sides through the grilles, because below the air flow rests against the video card.
Update 8/24/2021: I spoke to Scythe about the fan noise and they sent a replacement and it fixed the issue! Awesome customer service, I must add!
So would you recommend keeping the fan as part of the cooler configuration? Or is the RPM speed still an issue? Great video, btw!
how gpu temp in long session gaming?
Check out the nr200 inverted mod if you decide to go liquid cooled
@@MoshiCola check out nr200p max instead.
@@mrdjent8856 *not available* also more expensive than drilling 2 holes in an nr200 + 240 aio
I did this exact build last year and still running it. Dropped my delid 8700k about 12 degrees.
Tip: pull the top metal mesh off the top of the case and have exposed top fans, you wont need bottom intake fans at all. Lower the psu with standoffs on the psu mounts. The scythe cooler is the best but the stock fan is terrible and must be replaced. Also remove the rear pcie covers for better 92mm air flow. Im using it with a ROG 2070 super and strangely it ran cooler with the glass panel on. The NR200P is an amazing case.
I bought the u12a for my NR200 with the metal panel. It fits perfectly and with rear exhaust configuration it keeps my 5900x around 70 degrees under prime95 load. Yes, the Noctua is expensive but this cooler will last me easily another two CPU generations.
Awesome
My U9S by Noctua has been chugging along for 7-8 years. I upsized from an Ncase M1 to this NR200 case so since I have more room, I'm going to replace it with a larger cooler or just go with an AIO.
I was in the same dilema one year ago. Finally found that, Be quiet pure rock 2 (black) fit perfectly with tempered glass and mesh panel.
why not test the cooler tower without putting paste? and if it fits then apply paste?
Fair comment. I suppose I wanted to test the thermal performance as well. But that's a good idea if you're only concerned for height clearance.
The Be Quiet! Pure Rock also fits nicely (not event touching) with the glass panel if you remove the top cover. You can even fit 2x 120mm fans :)
If only I knew...
Just the basic pure rock?
Extremely useful!
I`ve reached 78 degrees celsius with my 5600X while playing GoW, using push and pull right to left, so airflow was intake from inside the case to outside the case.
When i changed the orientation, from intake left to exhaust right, with a exhaust fan on top...MAAAAN, IT REACHES 69 DEGREES NOW
Only complain is that i get more dust now. Will have to create some sort of dust filter to put at the back of the case.
Anyway, amazing tip and explanation. Really worth to check it out ;)
Thanks for confirming that it's the more optimal orientation when gaming. I see Soo many tech UA-camrs do it the traditional right to left way (dave2d)
yep! i have a noctua NHU12S Chromax Black + Noctua fan NF-F12 Swapable for push and pull, and i really didn`t get why my temps were so freaking high...man, this changes the entire game. 10-12 degrees less in a mini ITX build is absurd! Tks a lot for the tip :)
Great video. I'm glad to see more content about the NR200!
if I remember correctly, in one of his videos, the guy from Machines and More channel replaced the Kaze Flex fan by a Noctua NF-A12 in the Mugen 5 and the difference in temps was less than 1º C in a overclocked R7 3700X. Maybe there is a significant difference in a hotter cpu like yours.
I also have a NR200 paired with a Mugen 5 cooling a 3700X. After some tests, I decided to go with: mesh panel (to bring cool air from outside and help the GPU to breathe) + cooler exausting air to the back + one fan on top right as exaust. No fans beneath the GPU. Temps are good and I can barely hear any noise from my PC, even when gaming.
I did confound the results by using a rear fan 92mm which added more cooling!
finaly someone that prefers air cooling, ive been telling all my friends that aio cooling is not where its at, you could get a air cooler and use the extra 80$ for a entire better tier of nvme or gpu
100% Agree, I really think it's just easier to maintain and to install, on top of being very reliable
This is a really helpful video. I'm doing my first build, starting from ZERO knowledge, and got the ASUS ROG Strix B660I, and I'm so worried about clearances. I'm going to go with your setup, but instead of the Mogen 5, I'll try the Thermalright Silver Soul 135. A little smaller, but much better heat sink density. The company seems to be very well respected in Europe. Also the cooler came in white, black, and gray. I'll be using Arctic fans. Hope it works! I've got the i7-12700K.
Hey I really appreciate your kind words. I'm going to research this superior option
I think may need a lga1700 kit cos the bracket doesnt fit the b660i...
For those wondering: I have my NR200 set up with the glass panel. I have the same motherboard with an unaltered Scythe Fuma 2, and everything fits fine. Enough clearance for I/O shield and RAM. It's even easier with the mesh panel.
Nice video and explanation. I appreciate video like this helping everyone out.
I built my NR200 a few months ago and went with an inexpensive 240mm ID cooling AIO. I was about to send it back in place of the a good air cooler since it can't really (by default) be top mounted. And I've pretty much watched all of the videos on air cooling the NR200 and was about to go that route. But since I don't use the glass panel I figured I'd keep the ID Cooling AIO and give that a run. I didn't want to spend a lot for the Noctua A12X25s so I went with the Noctua NF-P12 Redux as AIO radiator intakes and top exhaust fans. I also put two 15mm Scythe Kaze Flex 120mm as bottom intakes. Barely fit below the beastly 3070 Ti FTW3. I kept the 92mm rear exhaust that came with the case. In the end I have 7 fans and a whisper quiet setup. Very happy with the case and end result.
Sorry, I made it about me. =P
Nice setup! Must be quiet.
This video and your post are exactly what I was looking for! I love the SFF but hate the fan noise, so it's been a battle. Anyway, I currently have an EK Basic 240 and replaced those fans and top exhaust in the NR200 with 2000rmp F12 PPC's. Just added a 3060 Ti the other day and it was getting hot in the bottom of the case. After reading your post, I went ahead and ordered a pair of A12x15's for the bottom and will install them soon. I am curious how your thermals are under load. Have you noticed any throttling on either the CPU or GPU?
Thanks to both of you for the awesome info! =)
@@wessmithchandler Hi Wes. To this point I've been doing a lot of gaming since I configured this case and I never even here the fans ramp up regardless of what I'm playing. Granted I'm not typically playing AAA heavy hitters on ultra/4K. I've run Unigine Heaven benchmark a few times and my top CPU/GPU (5600x/3070 Ti) temps are at around 64/73. During this test the fans never hit full RPMs and you can barely hear them from 5 feet away. I haven't noticed any CPU or GPU throttling to this point. The only change I may make at some point is to go from the cheapy AIO to a top performer. But right now there's no need.
How hot is your GPU getting? From all of the videos I've watched (many!) on this case, the bottom intake fans will improve (a few degrees maybe) your GPU temps but will have no effect on the CPU.
I know this video is a bit old, but Noctua recently released the D12L, a 120mm dual-tower with a height of 145mm, a whole 10mm less than what you're allowed. And by their own rating system, its thermal performance sits square between the U12A and U12S.
If you bend the mounting plate for the motherboard and use slightly smaller standoffs you can fit the u12a in the case
Finally got my build after watching tons of videos - and yours definitely helps ! Leaving the build here so you can have another idea to test your CPU and GPU
CPU: Intel Core i5 11400F
Motherboard: Asus Z590i ROG STRIX
RAM: Patriot Viper Steel 3200MHz 32GB (16x2)
GPU: RTX 3080 EVGA FTW3 Ultra 10GB
PSU: Cooler Master SFX 850W Plus Gold
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
HDD: Barcuda Seagate 2TB 5400 RPM
Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L (intake)
Fans:
- Top: Cooler Master Sickle Flow 120mm x2 (Exhaust)
- Rear: Noctua NF-A9 Chromax Black Swap 92mm x1 (Intake)
- Side: Arctic P14 PWM PST 140mm x1 (exhaust)
@@gackhuhn4868 yeah just upgraded the card and will get the CPU up to 11700F (many things to spend aside from computer) :D thanks for the advice
As it happens I've used a similar arrangement for my last two full ATX builds (currently a Fractal Define R5), i.e. with the CPU cooler 'backwards' and the rear fan as intake, with a central top fan for exhaust. I made up a filter for the rear fan consisting of a frame cut from 2mm ABS sheet which attaches via strips of 3M magnetic tape so it can be removed and installed in seconds by feel for cleaning. Effectively, it's a completely independent cooling loop for the CPU, and the central top fan is ideally positioned to exhaust heat from both CPU and GPU. There are also two front and one centre/bottom intake fans (Arctic P14 CO ball-bearing, spinning between 550-900 RPM). Hence it's net very 'positive pressure' with all intakes filtered. BTW, I also had problems with a Scythe fan - the rear intake was originally one of their unusual 14cm counter-clockwise spinning, 7-blade Kaze's (which I wanted because the plan was to 'stack' it in line with the one on a Noctua NH-U14S cooler, I eventually went with NH-D15S dual tower), and like the one in this video it was very noisy above about 900 RPM (unbearable anywhere near its 1750 RPM limit). I replaced it with an Arctic P14 RGB (has the annular ring on the impeller which stops the drone from blade resonance the standard one makes at certain RPM). It's _easily_ the quietest 14cm fan at given RPM/pressure I've tried, including that on the Noctua NH-D15S and Be Quiet Silent Wings, both of which are two or three times the price. ETA the CPU is a i9-9900KF @ 4.9Ghz/1.295V (no AVX offset), in Cinebench R23 it pulls c. 150w, with the rear intake fan at c.1500 RPM and Noctua CPU at c.1200 cores are c 80°C (+/- 2°C) on a warm spring day in the UK. The CPU is going to be de-lidded and direct-die'd soon (using a shim around the die and with the arched Noctua plat lapped flat).
damn that sounds intense
You could use the CPU cooler as a rear exhaust to minimize dust with no issues if you 1. have two bottom fans as intake, 2. have two fans at the top as exhaust, and 3. (optional) setup your GPU so it exhausts more heat through the rear blower (it's what I did with my 3080 FE card).
That would be a negative pressure scenario, which would not be optimal at all for dust build up
@@rivie2xwell, this case has filters on all sides except for the back, which is exhausting in this case, so I really don't get what you're saying here
CPU Cooler as an exhaust would mean, hot air coming out of the Power supply exhaust gets sucked in the cooler. Not ideal
yes! I too don't really like AIO coz of the same reason and moreover, I may go beyond 5yrs or more with the same PC (like the one I'm actually using 9+yrs)...but watching so many AIO builds do make it tempting...
and now there is the scythe mugen 6 , I been looking at other ways to build this maybe put power supply in front and put a slim fan some how on the side were your power supply is, looking at mine it looks like it will fit
Thermalright Burst Assassin (BA) is 155mm exactly. Good quality, price and contact surface. As for rear intake itself, Silverstone fan filters can be found online. Can screw them to pretty much any 120mm fan in all the custom builds.
Cooler master actually state that you are meant to set the cooler to intake from the rear and bottom and exhaust the top so you were right 👍🏻
I just moved my build into the regular nr200
Thermaltake Phantom Spirit 120 SE and a regularly mounted GPU
two noctua fans on the bottom for intake
couldn't be more pleased with thermals
Cant believe this is the only VERY informative video on youtube.
Thank you that means a lot
@@JSyntax Hi, I have a question. I have the same components as you except the GPU (im going for the Asus 3070 ti ROG strip idk what you think about this one, lmk), I would like to know if buying a large GPU with 3 fans will affect the airflow significantly for the bottom two fans.
this is why I don't like doing small builds I wish I would have waited for the max version , I am going to try with 2 of these cases and cut one down to size just for the radiator and put on top
Secufirm is awesome. A close runner up though is the Be Quiet mounting system (which has no name I guess?). It's also very easy. They also make smaller blacked out coolers such as the Dark Rock Slim and it's as silent as can be.
Extremely informative. thanks a ton for this video,. I'm in the mood of building a powerful itx build and Want to see the potential of nr200. This video answered all of my doubts.
Thank you for your kind words, let us know how it goes
should of got the noctua NH-D9L cooler, its only 110m in height so perfect for the nr200 and has crazy good performance.
Idk! I saw reviews and it's about the same as mugen 5
I was doing research exactly on this topic, your video is so rich with information, I was about to go with the fuma 2 but now I’ll go Mugen 5 :), thank you
I'think fuma 2 will fit!
Amazing video,m super informative. I do have a couple of questions if you don't mind answering them?
1. In your case you have two fans blowing air directly into your GPU. Did this help with thermals? I heard, on Reddit and other forums, that it can hurt thermals of the GPU to have some fans blow directly into them like you have there.
2. Do you know of any other PC cases, ATX specifically, that allow for fan installations at the bottom? Phantex's Elite does but their whole case is insanely huge it comes with its own wheel-barrow like box. Lian Li has a few but I'm not much of a fan of temperate glass side panels.
Yes I believe 2 gpu fans does help. But if you have a thicc card you'll need slim fans
I pulled this up because I have a 7900 xt and it sticks out the front of this case. I'm desperate for better air flow.
Well done!
Tip, JSyntax: Use rubber gloves when working with unpainted aluminum products. The oil on your skin will case a chemical reaction on the metal.
Mugen is pronounced "MOO" (like the sound of a cow) "gen" (hard g, not soft g like generation) due to it being Japanese in origin. Scythe is European and the c can be considered to be silent: syth (not Sith, of course!).
11:34 2,000 RPM. You accidentally said 200. ;)
12:24 The NF A12x24 is famous, not infamous, and it is neither the most expensive, considering that there are several fans that nor the most premier, except perhaps for the amazing SS02 bearings. The most expensive fans in my inventory include the SilverStone Air Penetrator 184i-Pro SST-AP184i-PRO, and a Delta fan. There are fans that even more expensive at over $100/fan, too.
I’ve got the Scythe Fuma 2 in my NR200P with the tempered glass panel. There is a couple mm clearance between the cooler and glass panel. (ASUS motherboard Ryzen CPU)
Lucky!
@@JSyntax I've also heard mixed reports about the Fuma 2 fitting or not fitting. I wonder where the variation is coming from. Is it variation in the cooler hight? Is it variation in motherboard/CPU height? Or is it variation in the case width?
are you using the asus B550-I?
Great review, super helpful and you're content is great. I can't help it though as I'm screaming at my screen - I'm not sure if someone has already said something as the video is a year old, but RPM is already plural so you don't need to worry about saying RPMs, it's like someone adding an S at the end of Pokémon, like my mum because she doesn't know what she's talking about. Also, the C in Scythe is silent. Beyond that, your video was so helpful with my NR200 build!
Love your comment! Ty
overall good bad or ugly this is the best true love to build computer video I have seen
You da besr
Love the video JSyntax, full of info & enjoyed it,
I had the NR200P white back on Release in 2020 & now going back to it again,
The Max version of the case I hate due to only vertical GPU Mounting in the Max version & also only in grey colour & price,
I am going to install corsair 15mm thickness fans white 'AF120 Slim'
Sounds like a fun project!
FYI - the Scythe FUMA 2 will fit. It fits in my NR200 no worries
You are the lucky one!
Same
which mother board are you using?
@@lk2eu487 I'm using the MSI B450i gaming plus AC, but motherboard heights are supposed to be the same no matter what
Pure rock 2 does fit, i have one with 2x arctic p12 argb fans in my NR200P.
Im just gonna use the vented side panel, not particularly interested in viewing the inside since cable management is so cluttered. But do you.
Thanks for your video... now i can tell my NH D15 can't fit on this case (165 mm height)
Is NH-U12A suitable in size for a mesh wall ?
Should be but it'll be very tight
thank you for sharing this! I\ll use this as a guide if I want to downsize my main rig!
I have a 5800x and a two fan rtx370. My fan configuration is two regular bottom intake.
Small scythe back exhaust.
Top fan closer to cpu exhaust and the other intake. This way I have cold air in the cpu. And two fans taking it out. Never hit more than 90C
Very nice!
the youtube channel machines&more says its better to have top exhaust and cpu fans exhaust out the back and its not worth having fans on the gpu, he also shows graphs of different configurations for temps, but i also guess hes using the normal nr200 and 3700x. but your video is still amazingly well done thank you for it!
I've heard conflicting reports. Fundamentally, having an rtx 3070 card blow hot air through its exhaust and having a CPU cooler suck in that warm air is concerning!
Tip for you - you mentioned needing special screws if you go with slim fans up top. As it turns out, the gray plastic spacers from a Noctua SecuFirm 2 kit that you use on AMD AM4 are 10mm tall. For me, using Noctua slims that I already had on-hand, with the 10mm spacers, I was golden. Naturally, you've got to have spare spacers on-hand to pull this off, but you can do it without special screws.
Wow! Ty for the tip
@@JSyntax Cheers. It was a total MacGyver moment. I was in the middle of a case transplant and BADLY didn’t want to roll back.
Thanks for the video, it provides plenty of information. The choice of components, way of connecting and pairing them is questionable though tbh :D Useful video anyway.
Thank you for this video, the cooler fits perfectly in my NR200!
Nice what cpu
@@JSyntax Ryzen 5600X
Fuma 2 fits I have one in the same case. Comes with 2 fans
Haven't completed my own build yet, still waiting on some parts (GPU, sigh) but I opted to use the budget friendly Vetroo V5 to cool my 5600X (at 65W this CPU does not require the highest cooling). Despite that I expect the V5 to perform pretty well once I change it's one mediocre fan and slap on two Arctic P12's on it which will definitely fit in a push/pull configuration, drawing in air from the rear.
I will definitely try an exhaust configuration too though. If thermals allow it prefer to keep that as an exhaust to avoid dust built-up inside the case. Tinkering a DIY rear dust filter is the other option.
Lastly I have not yet checked if the Gigabyte B550I + Vetroo V5 combo allows for two 25mm top fans. It' gonna be close.
Great video though, the NR200P is the most flexible ITX case outthere, I wish CM listened to the community and released a v2 that takes our complaints into account (Top AIO, 2mm more cooler clearance, ...) and NO don't start about the MAX.
Agreed they haven't made a v2. I guess it's about keeping their machine assembly line profits! They need volume to make the case affordable
Scythe fuma 2 will bet a better option for cpu cooling
I used the 212 black edition for my 5800x build 2 months ago. I had to agree that mount design of the 212 cooler was so stupid. But the thermals are quite acceptable and the fan is really quiet as well.
Ah yes amd run a lot cooler than Intel's right
Installing the 212 black in my nr200p build tonight, Wish me luck.
just what i needed thanks so much!!. very clear and great video to see the different options of cooler's
if the mugen is like the noctua nh u12s then why didn't you just go with the noctua one? since they have a good reputation
size!
I saw in an Optimum Tech video that he rotated the CPU cooler so the fans followed the airflow configuration of the case.
Great video! .... but why not buy NH-D15S or NH-D14S directly?!
First of all, that's not your IO shield but your VRM heatsink, much needed on a passive Z490 board. Second of all, the heatsink density of the Mugen 5 is optimized for slower fan speeds.
Interesting! Makes sense if they paired it with a 1300 rpm
Can you 3D-print a mesh panel for the front?
Great video, but I was wondering about the case fan configuration. Would removing the top exhaust fans make a noticeable difference, because according to my dad they don't do anything since the air could just go out the mesh panels.
It's adding more air flow, so it's going to push out hot air faster
is the mugen 5 enough to cool a ryzen 7700x?
A little late to comment on this, but theres a decent air cooler called Vetroo V5 thats 140mm ish in height and can cool my ryzen 9 5900x beautifully and fits the glass panel with about 1cm of clearance
17:40 you said that the FE was performing better than the 3 slot aorus 3070, so getting a slimmer GPU and having 2 good bottom fans gives better thermals than having a chonky 3 (or 3.x) slot card?
I'm torn between getting a slim 4070 Ti (theres one by inno3d that is 2 slots / 41mm thick) with two bottom fans (hoping that 25mms would fit, would even get T30s if they fit and have enough clearance) or getting a thicc 3.x slot card that would likely not even fit 15mm fans.
If you ever end up using that 3070 on the NR200 it might be better to just deshroud the GPU and utilize the bottom 120fans to cool the GPU, i believe it fits perfectly. I`ve seen it done on a 3080 Aorus Master
I'm not that confident in doing it!
My Hyper 212 Black Edition cools perfectly the i5 12600K. Didn't want to spend more than $50 also I can use the glass side panel as I took off the plastic bracket that covers the tips of the pipe.
jelly.
I think the problem is - this case just doesn't have inherently great cooling so you are always battling that. Glass sides, flat front, not much air in or out apart from the top or bottom.
Thanks for the vid. I purchased the NR200p and I was able to get my hands on a 3070 so this is really close to my future build. I went with a Noctua NH-U9S for the clearance. Hopefully it cools the Ryzen 7 5800X well enough!
Nice choice!
Be curious to know how you're getting on. 5800x is tricky to cool. I wouldn't expect a U9S to be able to cope.
@@egocd It gets along great. I have two 120mm fans at the bottom acting as an intake and two 120mm fans at the top as an exhaust. Even with the tempered glass side panel on, I'm getting around 50°C on idle and just above 60° under load.
@@peterbieniek7758 On a 5800x? That doesn't sound right at all :D
@@egocd Yeah that statement is pure BS, I recently bought a 5800x paired it with a Noctua U12 Chroma Black with 2x Arctic Bionic 120mm fans and on Cinebench it hits 82C and Gaming on a 240Hz Monitor - Battlefield V 170+ FPS it hovers from 75-79C depends on the map.
the vetroo v5 fits in this case with ram clearance and glass panel.
That's if you cooler is only good for i7 and below
Why is the 120mm fan on the heatsink mounted upside down? Have you tried to turn it over and do further tests with the reverse airflow ??
It's because the gpu blows hot air inside the case. We want to draw cool ambient air from the rear of the case. If the fans were oriented to the rear, it would be drawing the heat from the video card onto the cpu, which is not ideal.
No compromises? Surely tempered glass panel is a compromise? Nice build though!
Indeed! But u can see inside!
@@JSyntax true. I bought the 200P model but decided to go with the vented panel for the extra cooling
Great video man. Exactly what I was looking for. Questions: How about using the heatsink with horizontal orientation and pulling air from bottom and exhausting in the back? I mean, I am considering a lower TDP cpu. Does Schyte support mounting it this way and would the ram clear ? And does this case support 14mm bottom fans? Thanks!
I don't think I can do that! Thank you mc
It may have helped your Temps if you mounted the CPU cooler 120 mm fan blowing toward the back (through the cooler) instead of the 120 mm and the 90 mm fans pulling air in opposite directions...
But if I'm gaming, the hot exhausted air will blow onto the CPU!
@@JSyntax From what I seen the way you mounted the 120 mm fan on the CPU heatsink, the airflow is flowing away from the heatsink toward the power supply. Heatsinks work more effectively when you push air through them. Pulling air through them doesn't work as well. Also, the 90 mm fan is drawing air the opposite direction out the rear of the case so in essence the two fans are fighting each other. If you redirect the 120 mm you will have better airflow out the rear of the case and lower CPU temps.
I’m using the bequiet aio in my nr200p build. This aio is interesting as the pump is at the radiator side which allows bottom placement for the radiator but I mount it at the side bracket. Not using the tg panel and my cpu is running cool at 68-70 degree with Ryzen 5600x at load and cpu temp at 72-74 degrees. I do swap out all the fans with noctua a12x15 fans n I did not mount any fans at the bottom cause my 3080:is too big .
Very informative. Gonna be doing this for my first build. Wondering how did you connect the 92mm fan? Did you use a splitter connected with the front noctua fan or did you use a fan hub?
I had so many y splitters and fan headers so it was easy to hook them all!
And Pure Rock 2 slim ??
Thank you for this vid because I’m building a sff pc build and this vid helps me with what cpu cooler I should choose but my budget and gpu and UGHHHH everything is falling apart ;-; new egg 🥚 why you do this to me… and this is my first time to build a pc too
Can I build this if I have the i5 9400 Intel Processor? I also have a 600w power supply. The motherboard is an MSI B360i Gaming Pro. I also just ordered the Corsair Vengeance RBG Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600. Then I have the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti. I'm basically trying to move the parts I have now in my PC to this new case. My ex boyfriend built the PC I'm on now and I have no idea what else I would need or where to even begin!
Is it posible to fit the side bracket on with the Mugen 5?
no
Thoughts on same build with a 3900x and a evga 3060ti (2slot)?
Is it worth adding 2 bottom case fans for cooling 6700xt?
depends how hot it gets and if you can use regular thick ones
Goddamn it, I wanted to post a video similar to this but F it. This was by far better than mine.
And now you helped me and a ton of people.
This is exactly what I've been looking for!
I'd like to see your video. Please link when it's ready
@@JSyntax I can't compete with your quality of video lol.
But I will try to get a capable camera and start an even smaller build in the future, once I can find half sized gpus.
Why not rotate the cpu cooler on the top side so it can exhaust way better with the 120mm noctua pushing up
I want to pull cooler in and hot air out!
damn, this is a really damn helpful video, as clear as it gets. thank you
Awesome
This is really great man thank you - extra (but important) things to think about before having a crack at building in the NR200p :-)
You can do it man
@@JSyntax I seriously didn't know this about the cooler height man so thanks a lot1 The Hyper 212 RGB was actually one of the choices saved in my basket haha
@@JSyntax I wonder if the stock cooler is 'enough' for the 12400 I'm going to use it with along with the two standard fans up top, and an extra at the rear 🤔 There's certainly no clearance issues with that :-)
Nice but the brown fans dont match the black/white theme
The sKythe lol. Had me dying.
agree with the intake at the rear case. i was using wraith prism with my 5600x and i tried both ways but with intake on the rear i got 5-6deg cooler temp load when gaming
You must have a 3000 series right
@@JSyntax yes i have a rtx 3080 galax, im not able to fit even a slim fan as intake underneath due to the size of the GPU so i am dependant on the 3 gpu fans. also im using an aorus b550ipro ax so my cpu socket height would not allow me to fit my QL120 or even a kaze flex on top of the heatsink. i can only use a slim fan for that but im not planning to add that in for now as my current temps are fine with 1 exhaust on the top. so i have 3 fans running now, QL120 for the to right, intake on the heatsink using the QL120 as well for aesthetics and one arctic p9 sandwiched as intake btwn the case and mugen 5 and the vrm dont allow for 120 fans
Can't you use a lower profile noctua cooler?
Can you fit Push/Pull for Mugen 5 if you use thinn 15mm fan at the back?
Do intake fans under GPU really make that much of a difference? I'm afraid of adding them, might cause turbulence? My GPU is quite loud.
Maybe use slim fans!
Noctua sells a slim 120mm fan, maybe try that for the rear fan.
It's not the 25mm thickness that stops the use of a 120x25mm fan there it's the 120mm width due to the height of the rear IO
Could easily have a aio on there
so intake in the bottom and exhaust out the top? and intake from back (push pull in) ?? thanks
I got my hands an a mugen black 5s. I have choice to either add an extra 120mm fan on the block, or go for a 90mm on the back of the case or both? What do you suggest?
Both!
I'm honestly surprised the scythe even fits with the glass panel. Coolermaster's website says it's CPU clearance is 153mm. Scythes website of the Scythe has it's height at 154.5mm. Yet you managed to close the glass panel on it? Is the steel caps on the scythe touching the glass? I have the same cooler in a micro ATX build and looking to reuse it for an itx build. Would like you to shed some light on this.
Others with a scythe mugen revb and rockin the glass panel are welcome to confirm too!
can you rotate the mugen scythe horizontally so all the air flow is going vertically?
Not sure but if U can buy I think that would block top fans
You could have went with the CoolerMaster MasterAir MA612.
How does this build do during idle or light usage?
I'm trying to decide between this setup and the nr200 max with the water cooler, with the big disadvantage of the water cooler for me being the pump noise during idle. But if this setup is louder than the pump noise during idle, I would just go with water cooling.
Thank you! Great video!
It's very quiet. The quietest pc I owned
daaayys of agonizing researrchh
If I may ask, why didn't you use a slim fan (like noctua a12) rather than the noctua 92mm fan? Great video btw, I'm also planning for an nr200p build! but deciding whether to use scythe fuma 2 or mugen 5.
i dont think it'd fit with the tall io shield/vrm heat sinks :( -- im not 100% sure a12 slim would fit there. TY btw! What CPU are you cooling? I personally would be curious to do a mugen 5 vs fuma 2
Ahh I see, now im leaning on fuma 2.
I'm going to use 5900x for my build. Thanks for the reply!
Good video. In terms of airflow for my RTX 3070 Vision (Horizontally, fans at the bottom), do you still recommend the airflow you suggested with intake from the back. Currently I have a stock AMD Cooler, I will replace with a Mugen 5 that I have. I have a 92mm NF-A9 fan and two slim Notcua 4 pin fans at the botton for intake. I have 2 top Cooler Master White sickle flow fans to exhaust.
In that case, it's a harder to decide. We'd need some empirical data to determine what is optimal
Can you try both scenarios?
How should to be then?
How did you wire up the fans? Did you put the 92mm on the sys or cpu header? Guess the rest went on the sys header.
I used a splitter for the bottom ones
Russian version. Without glass. Economical version. You will only need two fans. There are only two fans per case at the top. Noctua NF-A12X25-PWM or equivalent. Wind direction to the inside of the computer case. The video card is horizontal, the case is without glass. You can use any CPU cooler. The hot air from the video card goes into the side grilles. Cold air for the video card from below. All the hot air from the processor is blown away by air from the upper fans and also leaves on the sides through the grilles, because below the air flow rests against the video card.