I was always yelling that. When I made my first custom case it was exactly 103 cm long. I was short 1.5mm for a fitting between front radiator housing and hard disk cage...
@@RhoadsChristopher lol... Exactly what I was going to say... He's a tech guy building PCs, swearing on camera, and getting paid to say "I LIKE BOATS!!!" every day, sometimes multiple times, so I'm sure that he knows about slim fans... Heck, I'll bet if there are any slimmer fans than that he's probably used them
Nr200p has had me looking at them and sfx psus for months now. Today, I've finally been convinced to sell of my mobo, case, fans, psu and cooler. I'm making the switch. This thing looks incredible
You know Jay hasn't watched any Optimum Tech when he is surprised that a FTW3 card fits in an SFF case. You can fit even bigger cards in the OG NR200 case with the horizontal orientation. Also there are sooooooo many SFF cases that can fit full size gpus nowadays. It's fun seeing the guy who makes the heaviest, biggest PCs around start to realize the appeal of SFF.
I own the regular NR200 and it's honestly been my favorite case so far. I can happily fit a 10900k and a 3090 with zero issues at all and temps are phenomenal.
"I love my kid, but I don't know how much." - Jay 2021 But seriously, this looks like an awesome case. I do like SFF cases due to them being easier to fit on my workspace. Currently have an NZXT H210 for my rig, but I might consider getting this one when I build a new rig. Great video!
I have a cooler master LAN box. Being able to unscrew every panel and work from ever angle is an awesome feature, so the screws on that case instead of rivets is a plus for me.
I have the original NR200 and it's genuinely my favorite case I've ever seen or built in. I love the layout on mine. I don't remember what you said about the original regarding layout but for me it was perfect. 280 rad and fans on the side (intake - mb temps are fine with the warm, not hot, air blowing towards the motherboard) and two exhaust fans on the top, ROG Strix 3090 in the bottom. Everything stays very well cooled and there's no vast empty space in the build. I hate empty space in computer builds.
I have a 4 slot RTX 3080 in this case & a AIO for my CPU. My max temperature under full load is 75 degrees celsius for my gpu and 56 degrees celsius for my i7-9700f! I definitely recommend this case!
Imagine no further. No top/front panel UCB-C, just like its predecessors. It's the only reason why I didn't choose those, and will be the only reason why I don't choose this one. Still, super-nice case if that isn't a deal breaker.
No horizontal position for the GPU, while the non MAX version does have it AND vertical GPU position too. The SFF community has been asking for a way to put a radiator on the top for a while and they missed it. It could have been a perfect dual rad itx case.
@@althalus_5298 I know, and tried some mods with 3d printed tophats but not the same. Cooler Master had the chance to do a Ghost S1 with dual hats but for a fraction of the cost and... well, underdelivered.
For anymore considering buying that case: I've installed 2 slim 140mm intakes at the bottom. I'm running a 5600x (undervolted) and a 3080 (strix) in there with the glass panel. Nothing throttles, the GPU doesn't get hotter than 77°C. Without the fans, shit gets a bit toasty tho, so I would recommend to DEFINITELY install slim fans at the bottom.
Wow! There were so much innovations put into this case. A collection of preferred side panels in the box, a pre installed AIO, a pre installed psu, and a minimalistic design. I would definitely dig this case. 👏
And in Case something borks the new System: Other-Mini-Jay proudly presents the next episode of "Dad! Fix It!" - brought to you by Jay and iFixit! *Splosions*
If the audience only knew that case name was short for: Cooler Master Masterbox NR200P MAX 100% Super-Mega-good-time large modular small-form-factor case 100%
My oldest, who is 21 now, got this first computer at 6. He was sitting on my lap as a baby while I worked (IT Professional here), and now he's going to school for computer science. He knows how to do stuff that even I don't know how to do! 😂 Set them up early to succeed in life!
The amount of space it manages to have for a GPU is nuts. I know a handful of people that bought or wanted to buy a 3090 with mid-tower or bigger cases but couldn't fit them. To cram it into this sff case is wild
Finally I saw a video on release! Jay, you're awesome. My daughter wants her first PC, and it reignited my passion for building again. Therefore, if the daughter gets a custom PC (we don't do pre-builds in this house haha), Daddy gets one too. My last PC was built in 2007 (AMD X2, for reference), so the entire landscape has completely morphed and everything I've learned to get back up to speed is heavily due to you. I've watched over 90% of your content already. Have a serious couple of pick lists for our Father-Daughter builds and am completely appreciative of the fact that your channel exists and can only say thank you for supporting all levels of knowledge and being so informative! I snagged up a GPU apocalypse shirt to help support you guys! I'll be sure to share both builds once complete (Daughter gets hers first) but seeing as I had a son born 5 days ago, the wallet and wife both agree, it will have to wait. Can't wait to get roasted or admired, until then I have your channel. I digress, you're awesome, thanks for the good content!
I have this case and use as my motion sim racing rig PC - it's a great case - runs great with a 10th gen core i7 and a RTX3070 card with room for a big 240 radiator. I like this case. I have the radiator on the side and the RTX mounted at the bottom pulling air up through the bottom of the case.
As an owner of a white NR200, I can vouch for the build quality. It was an absolute steal at $60. I have 2 thin 120mm fans in the bottom, 2 120mm fans in the side bracket, and 2 120mm fans in the top. Plenty of airflow.
"Just bake your GPU in the oven..." Hey, I've done that several times before. GTX 8800M back when it was the hottest mobile GPU on the market. Only problem was it was too hot and the solder wouldn't hold. It was a design flaw and baking it could get it to work again, but only temporarily. My killer $3,000 gaming laptop was basically a brick a little over a year later.
@Ellipsys0303 I've also had it go the other way. The LG G4 phone had a similar design flaw, only instead of baking, you would freeze the phone to get it working again. At least working long enough to back everything up.
Jay, I absolutely love this case, I’ve got an older nr200 with a full custom loop dual radiator setup and it’s amazing. For the size this case can fit so much hardware. One thing I don’t understand is why they would take out the horizontal gpu mount on this max version.
It really is a great case. It has went up 30 bucks tho. Got mine back for 99 when first dropped. Love the case. I sold my ncase m1 to save some money. Lil bigger but has great features. Only shitty thing is my second 1 didn't have the best qc. The first was perfect.
I got a NR200P (not MAX) with RTX3080 and 3700x, custom water looped with a 240mm slim radiator at bottom and a 120mm radiator on side, my CPU and GPU were never over 65 degree Celsius no matter what I do, and it's pretty quiet when not gaming, it's the best case I've used over the years, brilliant engineering from Cooler Master!
Prefer the original NR200 personally. For me the selling point is being able to build without the need of a riser cable. A simple SFF PC, thermals are very good and the build process is fairly straightforward. This case is cool that it comes pre-assembled with the radiator and PSU but doesn't make sense to me.
I really like the option of a top mounted rad, but I agree with you that it's not particularly better than the original. It really comes down to better AIO placement but worse GPU placement so YMMV 🤷♂️ If this one had the option of horizontal GPU mount, I could see it better but it really looks like a more viable showpiece case alternative to the original (glass panel oriented.)
@@carsanwitt Agreed and I think that would be the best variation if it was ever to be released. The included AIO and PSU are great on this case but the lack of a horizontal GPU mount just doesn't do it for me.
Respect for the fact they actually located their AIO rad at the top of the case, which is a damn site better than the options they gave builders with the predecessors (side-mount at best, floor mount at absolute worst).
I have my 'old' NR200P with a sidemounted 240mm pureloop cooler. Has the pump in the cooler lines, not in the block. So no issues. 3080 horizontal mount pulling in fresh air from the bottom. The previous iteration was already pretty good if you keep the basics in mind.
I also had the pureloop bottom mounted even and it ran fine as the fans act as intake for airflow from the bottom to the top. The downside is that the pump kind of limits my clearance for the sidemounted gpu so I'm glad they put the rad mount at the top this time
I have a 280mm Arctic on the side of my NR200P, with plenty of room to route everything and have great cable management. I have been trying to get more people to check these cases out. They are really great.
I quite like it, but there are still some things that I don't like in comparison with the Thermaltake Core V21 I went with. - What I like better about mine, for one thing, is that it has the side and top filters magnetized on the outsides, like the bottom one of the CM. Some people might find that less appealing cosmetically, but I really like that it just filters the dust right at the outside and you can either just vacuum them off or grab the filters without removing any panels and clean them off somewhere else. - The front filter IS a foam one on the inside, unfortunately, but then that will just have to be cleaned as thoroughly less frequently. - Speaking of the front; It allows for 1x200mm or 2x140mm ones, or even radiators for that matter. - The side and top also allow for either 2x120 or 2x140. Except, while this case is almost a cube, unfortunately they didn't make it so you can go 4x120/140 on one side, but oh well. So yes, this one is larger, mostly wider, and it's not strictly an ITX-case but up to mATX. What's more is that you can turn the case in almost any orientation you'd like, as all the removable panels, including the bottom with the feet, are interchangeable. - So you can put the motherboard-tray in one of two vertical orientations, but you can also put it horizontally (test-bench-style), which also means you can have fans on the side blowing right onto the GPU, or you could even hang the entire system freaking upside-down if you really wanted to. - Yes, again, it's not as small, this CM-case could possible almost fit inside mine, though barely. But while that's a pretty cool package, I feel it's still very limiting in possibilities in terms of smaller cases. - There has yet something to be designed that will beat the Core V21 in my opinion, and not even Thermaltake's newer version of it fixes the shortcomings the older one has (it's basically a "reskin" of the same, but almost worse).
"the colored version ... is only available with the old edition" my thoughts exactly!!! it's great they changed the location of the power adapter from the top to bottom to accommodate the aio, but I would really like my GPU placed horizontally rather than vertically using the riser. i think that would really help with the cooling.
Woah! Your shirt blows LTTs latest ones out of the water! Theirs have all been 100% black and dorky for the last 2 years; so I'm reallu digging the comic book/pop-art vibe!
Lol my luck. I LITERALLY just finished modding the hell out of my NR200P tonight for a custom triple radiator setup and it was the hardest build ever. That hinging rear panel alone would have made it so much easier…
This channel won’t allow links, but the Imgur gallery URL is “sMKAMs0” Strix x570, Ryzen 9 5900x, MSI 3080, 32gb 3600 ram. Still trying to get the EK cpu block RGB to come on, think I may have to send it back for a new one.
I like this case a lot, here are some wild ideas for mods (not sure if they are posible): 1.- Modify back panel to have the GPU sit as high as posible and add a flex raiser cable 2.- Try to accommodate a thin rad+fans on the bottom 3.- custom loop, may need barrow or other pump+block combo
The original N200 did not have the rad+fans directly blow on top of the GPU, the GPU sits underneath. The only downside is that once you want to use the AIO and TG sidepanel that you couldnt like that. and it is not a neg pressure case. The ventilation slots on the bottom are exactly aligned in a way that a 120mm fan can be mounted there or 2 slime 120mm fans.
I have the non-Max version of this case, about year old now. 2 slim Noctua chromemax fans on the bottom, AIO radiator mounted on the side with it's 2 fans, then 2 more Noctua full size fans on the top. so that's 6 fans, plus the 3 fans on the installed 3080. It never gets above 80 degrees. Usually quiet unless its a really demanding game. I wanted to try modding it to put a radiator at the top, I see Cooler Master listened and gave us this model to solve that issue.
Man, with all of the new good SFF cases coming out, it makes me really want one, especially after seeing this! I would totally do another build with that one. And YES, I look forward to any non-regular Jay build videos, hell, even regular Jay videos!
I think there will be a GPU support-braket if you take a look at the bottom. There are four holes on the bottom placed basically at the end of a large GPU.
When you do a build, can you please do a comparison on thermals and noise compared to a tower case. This would help tremendously for users that are looking at converting to small form factor.
Would be better if they put front IO actually on the front of the case. Having it on top makes it inaccesible in some installations. Also having the AIO and PSU optional would be great. For example in my country right now the price for separate components (NR200P+AIO+PSU) is like 2/3 of the NR200P MAX price.
I have the white NR200P case and i managed to cram in a Noctua C14S CPU cooler, 5 case fans, a 750 watt PSU, 3 2.5 hard drives, and some rgb strips. It ended up exhausting out the right side.
I think with the extra height Jay mentioned and a mesh side panel that functions similarily to a Meshify case front panel this could be a really great SFF case
If I had this case & a 3D printer, I'd install a pair of 120mm fans in the bottom, then produce a custom bracket that would fit into the holes of the fans in a double square shape that would offset the gap between the upward blowing fans & the bottom of the GPU, leaving space for the riser card. This bracket would also raise up along the back to further secure the GPU from moving around. Which should help reduce the amount of time that the GPU fans would spin.
DAAAARN! Cooler Master, hope you see this!!!! Your new GPU bracket has more potential! Move the mounting point of the PCI-E IO section up! There will be space for bottom radiator and fans from what I can see without increasing case height!!!! Or give us the option to buy one. It would be the best case on the market with a proper straight through chimney effect cooling.
@@doctoreighty452 And I would have gotten one if my FTW3 card would fit with a waterblock, now I'm deciding between the Ssupd meshlicious and lian O11D mini
@@zack9692 NCase M1 will fit a 3080 ftw3 card. It takes a little effort though. I have both the SSUPD and an 011 mini. Comes down to how much rad you want. If you're okay with close to air performance, go with the SSUPD. If you wanna bunch of thicc boi rads, the 011 mini can hold 2x 360 and 1x 240 easily.
@@ComputersAre8ad I am currently using a Phanteks Enthoo 719(Luxe 2) and want to downsize, originally wanted to do a custom loop in it, but it's just too cumbersome in my opinion, I bought a SSUPD, but I'm waiting on an itx MOBO now, if I don't like the temps I get then I'll go with the O11 mini because I'd love to do a hard line loop at some point
@Gareth Tucker :D love the real American units bit. Gold! Being an engineer I'm fully conversant with the inch conversion. Yards.miles not so much, though I'm pretty sure a mile is 1.61 km. The old imperial units are terrible to use for engineering calculations. We covered some in uni and just painful compared to using SI. But for me that was along time ago now :D
I was looking at this case with the vented side panels. I wanted to move my VR rig from the Thermaltake Core V21 because I need it to move and be easy to carry. Also: already ordered the shirt a few days ago when you first announced it
Install spacers or taller feet and externally mount the bottom fans. Also making a shroud on the mesh side to funnel the air into the GPU, leaving the AIO to pull out the hot.
Would have liked to see a thermal test to see the difference between the mesh and glass panel. Also, would have been nice to see if the provided psu and aio perform as expected. Had a lot of fun watching this though, you killed me when you started questioning the love for your daughter. 😂
The fact that it put together with screws is a major plus also. CM Really killed it with this one. It just works even for new commers to itx. Small but big enough to be easy to build in. Only down side over the m1 is the back let's in a lot more dust.
I have Thermaltake The Tower 100 with a Gigabyte rtx 3070 ti. Glass panel makes GPU thermals in the 90s before undervolting. The two cases seem to have identical room for airflow between the GPU and glass. I say use the mesh panel and forget the glass. I still use my case but took the side closest to the GPU off.
You could get some low profile fans to stick in the bottom if you wanted more airflow. Noctua makes the AF12x15 PWM fans that are only 15mm thick instead of the more standard 25-27mm thickness.
Literally solved the problem of the first case for me, am wondering tho if you could fit two slim 120mm fans down below as intake and run the glass panel to maybe improve airflow as it forces direct flow of air upwards
I used an NR200p (non-max) because it was available quickly. Surprise: it is a very nice case. Side-mounted radiator (5950X) and bottom-mounted Radeon 6800XT both around 80C max. The only problem with the case is that it does not have a handle, but GearGrip carry straps are a reasonable workaround. For a hundred bucks it cannot be beat. The top-mounted radiator in the Max version improves on an already excellent design.
You can mount the AIO on the side with the original NR200(P). The radiator is just above the pump and it seems to run fine on my 5800x. My Asus TUF 3080Ti at the bottom exhausts hot air on both sides of the mesh panels and temps are 68c. CPU is 60-70c while gaming with 2 exhaust fans at the top. Great little case CM put together. Would prefer the AIO to be on top but doubt i'd see much difference.
I have original case NR200, FANTASTIC CASE! Ryzen 5 3600, 850 watt PSU, RX 6800XT LOVE this case! Btw Jay the bottom panel pops right off to avoid all the trouble you were having at 1st.
Hallo 👋 I use the previous model. With 240mm Aio CPU cooling, a Rtx 3050 Gpu. And 2x 120mm Fans on top and bottom. Perfect airflow 👍 Lightshow with corsair components.
some foam..specail anti static can and will conduct electricity..and can/will make short circuits or damage parts when under power....so always be carefull what foam you use
It has the same Ikea look of the Inwin A1 which I have and really enjoy. Really have no complaints over this case at all, more surprised it's a CM product, really like the direction they have been heading in lately.
The number of times I’ve yelled, to myself, “Damnit [case manufacturer] if only you added just one frickin millimeter”
‘To my grandmother’s.’👒👑👢👡👠👟👞
or you may fall and break the😸😺💩🤖👾👽👻
I believe, too, that you do🥪🌭🍕🍟🍔🥓🍗
Welp, you got botted 😐
I was always yelling that. When I made my first custom case it was exactly 103 cm long. I was short 1.5mm for a fitting between front radiator housing and hard disk cage...
Hey Jay, they make thin 120 MM fans. This is a perfect use case (pun intended) for it.
I was thinking the same. I'm sure he knows lol.
@@RhoadsChristopher my nr200 has non slim fans and it still fits (2 slot gpu)
Exactly this
@@RhoadsChristopher lol... Exactly what I was going to say... He's a tech guy building PCs, swearing on camera, and getting paid to say "I LIKE BOATS!!!" every day, sometimes multiple times, so I'm sure that he knows about slim fans... Heck, I'll bet if there are any slimmer fans than that he's probably used them
@@northwiebesick7136 he used regular fans to test it
"so easy to build in a kid can do it" would be a great entry point for people hesitant to try SFF
Nr200p has had me looking at them and sfx psus for months now. Today, I've finally been convinced to sell of my mobo, case, fans, psu and cooler. I'm making the switch. This thing looks incredible
With exception to people with big hands like me. I've only done one SFF build thankfully, and doubt I ever will again.
You know Jay hasn't watched any Optimum Tech when he is surprised that a FTW3 card fits in an SFF case. You can fit even bigger cards in the OG NR200 case with the horizontal orientation. Also there are sooooooo many SFF cases that can fit full size gpus nowadays. It's fun seeing the guy who makes the heaviest, biggest PCs around start to realize the appeal of SFF.
I own the regular NR200 and it's honestly been my favorite case so far. I can happily fit a 10900k and a 3090 with zero issues at all and temps are phenomenal.
Air cooled ot water cooled?
@@wawaaan-w2r 240 aio for cpu side mounted and gpu is air cooled.
@@senseofpermanence Cool. Thanks bruh 👌
"I love my kid, but I don't know how much." - Jay 2021
But seriously, this looks like an awesome case. I do like SFF cases due to them being easier to fit on my workspace. Currently have an NZXT H210 for my rig, but I might consider getting this one when I build a new rig. Great video!
He says that with those 2 rigs on the bench behind him.
was about to leave the exact same comment lol
I’ve got a NR200P and I can say it’s a cinch to build in
Nr200p
15:20 "The two fans are going to do a good job of pulling the hate out." Jay, you have a 3090, there will always be haters. It's just how it is.
the house, and thought🧗♀️🤹♀️🤹♂️🤺🤾♀️🤾♂️🤽♀️
"Send all your hatemail..." I was dying.
I feel like everyone is sending emails to it as we speak
@@kesha4380 I want to send an email with subject "hate mail" but just tell him I
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“Dear Jay, I wrote to you but, you still ain’t calling.”.
@@PopTickles You're stealing my thunder
I have a cooler master LAN box. Being able to unscrew every panel and work from ever angle is an awesome feature, so the screws on that case instead of rivets is a plus for me.
I have the non max version and it came in clutch when i was trying to fit an ROG Strix in it by basically removing all of the bottom frame.
I have the original NR200 and it's genuinely my favorite case I've ever seen or built in. I love the layout on mine. I don't remember what you said about the original regarding layout but for me it was perfect. 280 rad and fans on the side (intake - mb temps are fine with the warm, not hot, air blowing towards the motherboard) and two exhaust fans on the top, ROG Strix 3090 in the bottom. Everything stays very well cooled and there's no vast empty space in the build. I hate empty space in computer builds.
got any cable routing tips as I got one but I used an atx psu
I have a 4 slot RTX 3080 in this case & a AIO for my CPU. My max temperature under full load is 75 degrees celsius for my gpu and 56 degrees celsius for my i7-9700f! I definitely recommend this case!
This case looks fantastic, I can’t imagine anybody being grumpy with this purchase.
Imagine no further. No top/front panel UCB-C, just like its predecessors. It's the only reason why I didn't choose those, and will be the only reason why I don't choose this one. Still, super-nice case if that isn't a deal breaker.
@@Craig-ib7gkso have to Dremel one in then I guess zzz. Such a ball ache
No horizontal position for the GPU, while the non MAX version does have it AND vertical GPU position too. The SFF community has been asking for a way to put a radiator on the top for a while and they missed it. It could have been a perfect dual rad itx case.
@@LogicalHardware i crammed a thin 240 rad on top but it was a royal pita along with a bottom rad
@@althalus_5298 I know, and tried some mods with 3d printed tophats but not the same. Cooler Master had the chance to do a Ghost S1 with dual hats but for a fraction of the cost and... well, underdelivered.
I really like that SFF PCs have become more and more mainstream. It means we get options from the larger case manufacturers that don't cost $300-$500.
17:13 "I love my kid.... but i don't know HOW MUCH" holy shit, that is a bold quote
😆😆😆 lol'ed so hard when i heard this.
@@petterderter6354 when did i say "god" u mad ? xd
@@petterderter6354 shut up
For anymore considering buying that case: I've installed 2 slim 140mm intakes at the bottom. I'm running a 5600x (undervolted) and a 3080 (strix) in there with the glass panel. Nothing throttles, the GPU doesn't get hotter than 77°C. Without the fans, shit gets a bit toasty tho, so I would recommend to DEFINITELY install slim fans at the bottom.
This was the comment I was seeking. Thanks for sharing.
I saw this comment was from 2 years ago. How does this case hold up for you still?
I just installed in a nr200 v1 top(2) and bottom(2) slim 120mm fans and lateral 240mm watercooling with a 5600x and a 7600. Everything runs ok.
You can actually use 2 120mm fans in the bottom, and 1 92 mm in the back, it's a really cool case
Wow! There were so much innovations put into this case. A collection of preferred side panels in the box, a pre installed AIO, a pre installed psu, and a minimalistic design. I would definitely dig this case. 👏
'InNoVaTiOnS'
If you bought the older nr200p, its already provide 2 side panels and a vga riser also Lol
“Skunkworks Moray” and “Skunkworks Minnow” could be his next builds.
airbrushed explosions on the chassis
And in Case something borks the new System: Other-Mini-Jay proudly presents the next episode of "Dad! Fix It!" - brought to you by Jay and iFixit! *Splosions*
Perfect idea for this case, love it.
When Zen four's out the door,
Graphics cards back in store
SKUNKWORKS MORAY
When Zen four's out the door,
Graphics cards back in store
SKUNKWORKS MORAY
If the audience only knew that case name was short for:
Cooler Master Masterbox NR200P MAX 100% Super-Mega-good-time large modular small-form-factor case 100%
My oldest, who is 21 now, got this first computer at 6. He was sitting on my lap as a baby while I worked (IT Professional here), and now he's going to school for computer science. He knows how to do stuff that even I don't know how to do! 😂 Set them up early to succeed in life!
The amount of space it manages to have for a GPU is nuts. I know a handful of people that bought or wanted to buy a 3090 with mid-tower or bigger cases but couldn't fit them. To cram it into this sff case is wild
"it's rigid, I thought it was gonna be flexy".
That's what she said!
The real question is: why was she expected it to be flexy?
@@bofasofa9399 Age does things...
Well I guess she’s rather impressed!
"One would be better than nothing." Everyone still looking for a modern GPU agrees.
Finally I saw a video on release! Jay, you're awesome. My daughter wants her first PC, and it reignited my passion for building again. Therefore, if the daughter gets a custom PC (we don't do pre-builds in this house haha), Daddy gets one too. My last PC was built in 2007 (AMD X2, for reference), so the entire landscape has completely morphed and everything I've learned to get back up to speed is heavily due to you. I've watched over 90% of your content already. Have a serious couple of pick lists for our Father-Daughter builds and am completely appreciative of the fact that your channel exists and can only say thank you for supporting all levels of knowledge and being so informative! I snagged up a GPU apocalypse shirt to help support you guys!
I'll be sure to share both builds once complete (Daughter gets hers first) but seeing as I had a son born 5 days ago, the wallet and wife both agree, it will have to wait. Can't wait to get roasted or admired, until then I have your channel. I digress, you're awesome, thanks for the good content!
I have this case and use as my motion sim racing rig PC - it's a great case - runs great with a 10th gen core i7 and a RTX3070 card with room for a big 240 radiator. I like this case. I have the radiator on the side and the RTX mounted at the bottom pulling air up through the bottom of the case.
As an owner of a white NR200, I can vouch for the build quality. It was an absolute steal at $60. I have 2 thin 120mm fans in the bottom, 2 120mm fans in the side bracket, and 2 120mm fans in the top. Plenty of airflow.
I'm so glad that you're making a video of this wonderful ITX case! I've heard nothing but good things and I'm planning to build two builds with this.
"Hey look, it's like a little door that pivots!" *warning label says 'red x' for pivoting*
"Just bake your GPU in the oven..."
Hey, I've done that several times before. GTX 8800M back when it was the hottest mobile GPU on the market. Only problem was it was too hot and the solder wouldn't hold. It was a design flaw and baking it could get it to work again, but only temporarily. My killer $3,000 gaming laptop was basically a brick a little over a year later.
@Ellipsys0303 I've also had it go the other way. The LG G4 phone had a similar design flaw, only instead of baking, you would freeze the phone to get it working again. At least working long enough to back everything up.
@Ellipsys0303 no, because I couldn't disassemble the phone to safely do it.
Jay, I absolutely love this case, I’ve got an older nr200 with a full custom loop dual radiator setup and it’s amazing. For the size this case can fit so much hardware. One thing I don’t understand is why they would take out the horizontal gpu mount on this max version.
It really is a great case. It has went up 30 bucks tho. Got mine back for 99 when first dropped. Love the case. I sold my ncase m1 to save some money. Lil bigger but has great features. Only shitty thing is my second 1 didn't have the best qc. The first was perfect.
I got a NR200P (not MAX) with RTX3080 and 3700x, custom water looped with a 240mm slim radiator at bottom and a 120mm radiator on side, my CPU and GPU were never over 65 degree Celsius no matter what I do, and it's pretty quiet when not gaming, it's the best case I've used over the years, brilliant engineering from Cooler Master!
Prefer the original NR200 personally. For me the selling point is being able to build without the need of a riser cable. A simple SFF PC, thermals are very good and the build process is fairly straightforward. This case is cool that it comes pre-assembled with the radiator and PSU but doesn't make sense to me.
I really like the option of a top mounted rad, but I agree with you that it's not particularly better than the original.
It really comes down to better AIO placement but worse GPU placement so YMMV 🤷♂️
If this one had the option of horizontal GPU mount, I could see it better but it really looks like a more viable showpiece case alternative to the original (glass panel oriented.)
@@carsanwitt Agreed and I think that would be the best variation if it was ever to be released. The included AIO and PSU are great on this case but the lack of a horizontal GPU mount just doesn't do it for me.
I top mounted a radiator in the original nr200, z53kraken with an msi rtx 2080super gaming x trio looks better than this build.
I too prefer the nr200 , simple and effective and most importantly its price
Respect for the fact they actually located their AIO rad at the top of the case, which is a damn site better than the options they gave builders with the predecessors (side-mount at best, floor mount at absolute worst).
I have my 'old' NR200P with a sidemounted 240mm pureloop cooler. Has the pump in the cooler lines, not in the block. So no issues. 3080 horizontal mount pulling in fresh air from the bottom. The previous iteration was already pretty good if you keep the basics in mind.
I also had the pureloop bottom mounted even and it ran fine as the fans act as intake for airflow from the bottom to the top. The downside is that the pump kind of limits my clearance for the sidemounted gpu so I'm glad they put the rad mount at the top this time
I have a 280mm Arctic on the side of my NR200P, with plenty of room to route everything and have great cable management. I have been trying to get more people to check these cases out. They are really great.
"This is the absolute BEST small PC case we have tested yet..."
only thing ive seen tested is wether the gpu fits
Also specs on website claim only supports pci 3.
Its probably the only factor thats important. With the AIO and PSU already fitted, what other issues could you have?
@@olswang CoolerMaster should have included a riser that supports PCIe 4.
@@QuasiMonkey It is PCIe 4.0
@@olswang If you're just gaming on it, PCI-E 3.0 doesn't make a difference anyways.
I quite like it, but there are still some things that I don't like in comparison with the Thermaltake Core V21 I went with. - What I like better about mine, for one thing, is that it has the side and top filters magnetized on the outsides, like the bottom one of the CM. Some people might find that less appealing cosmetically, but I really like that it just filters the dust right at the outside and you can either just vacuum them off or grab the filters without removing any panels and clean them off somewhere else. - The front filter IS a foam one on the inside, unfortunately, but then that will just have to be cleaned as thoroughly less frequently. - Speaking of the front; It allows for 1x200mm or 2x140mm ones, or even radiators for that matter. - The side and top also allow for either 2x120 or 2x140. Except, while this case is almost a cube, unfortunately they didn't make it so you can go 4x120/140 on one side, but oh well. So yes, this one is larger, mostly wider, and it's not strictly an ITX-case but up to mATX.
What's more is that you can turn the case in almost any orientation you'd like, as all the removable panels, including the bottom with the feet, are interchangeable. - So you can put the motherboard-tray in one of two vertical orientations, but you can also put it horizontally (test-bench-style), which also means you can have fans on the side blowing right onto the GPU, or you could even hang the entire system freaking upside-down if you really wanted to. - Yes, again, it's not as small, this CM-case could possible almost fit inside mine, though barely. But while that's a pretty cool package, I feel it's still very limiting in possibilities in terms of smaller cases. - There has yet something to be designed that will beat the Core V21 in my opinion, and not even Thermaltake's newer version of it fixes the shortcomings the older one has (it's basically a "reskin" of the same, but almost worse).
"the colored version ... is only available with the old edition"
my thoughts exactly!!!
it's great they changed the location of the power adapter from the top to bottom to accommodate the aio, but I would really like my GPU placed horizontally rather than vertically using the riser. i think that would really help with the cooling.
Woah! Your shirt blows LTTs latest ones out of the water! Theirs have all been 100% black and dorky for the last 2 years; so I'm reallu digging the comic book/pop-art vibe!
Totes
White is for undershirts
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Lol my luck. I LITERALLY just finished modding the hell out of my NR200P tonight for a custom triple radiator setup and it was the hardest build ever. That hinging rear panel alone would have made it so much easier…
yo drop imgr link! that sounds sick
Same I recently did a dual 280 slim rad build with hard pipes in the NR200P, then I see this case 🥲
This channel won’t allow links, but the Imgur gallery URL is “sMKAMs0” Strix x570, Ryzen 9 5900x, MSI 3080, 32gb 3600 ram. Still trying to get the EK cpu block RGB to come on, think I may have to send it back for a new one.
When Jay said "That's rigid", I thought Phill would answer "That's what she said!"
And actually, it’s what YOU said.
@@globalist1990 nope. That's what SHE said.
You can actually mount two 120mm slim fans at the bottom to help with the airflow!
Strangely enough,I found this only seems to increase temps.
I can't imagine anything more appropriate than a T-shirt that's sold out, as commentary on how PC hardware is all sold out.
Jay gets Grumpy when he's called Grumpy. :D
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a dear little girl who was 😘😍😎😋😊😉😆
walk nicely and quietly🤓🧐🤭🤫🤥🤡🤠
Finally a SFF that ticks all the boxes indeed..
Could be my first build where i would not have to dremel stuff.
I'd like to see Mini-Jay build in this case. "So easy a 6 year-old can build in it!"
I like this case a lot, here are some wild ideas for mods (not sure if they are posible):
1.- Modify back panel to have the GPU sit as high as posible and add a flex raiser cable
2.- Try to accommodate a thin rad+fans on the bottom
3.- custom loop, may need barrow or other pump+block combo
I'm new to computer building. I must say the community is amazing, and your videos contain a good bit of comedy.
Can't wait for GN to implement the "blow through the mesh with your lungs" test for airflow!
I would love to see a build in this. I currently have the nr200p and love it.
Also have a NR200P, superb case,the MAX version is on my Buy List.
That pump bounced off the table and my first thought was "Good job, Linus" lmao
This wasn't Linus... his ad segway wasn't smooth enough...
The original N200 did not have the rad+fans directly blow on top of the GPU, the GPU sits underneath. The only downside is that once you want to use the AIO and TG sidepanel that you couldnt like that. and it is not a neg pressure case. The ventilation slots on the bottom are exactly aligned in a way that a 120mm fan can be mounted there or 2 slime 120mm fans.
I have the non-Max version of this case, about year old now. 2 slim Noctua chromemax fans on the bottom, AIO radiator mounted on the side with it's 2 fans, then 2 more Noctua full size fans on the top. so that's 6 fans, plus the 3 fans on the installed 3080. It never gets above 80 degrees. Usually quiet unless its a really demanding game. I wanted to try modding it to put a radiator at the top, I see Cooler Master listened and gave us this model to solve that issue.
If they made it 4 slots for the GPU and tall enough for dual bottom mount 140s this would be perfect.
I agree with 4 slots. As for the bottom fans, you can buy a thin version and they will fit with no problem.
Jay says “..CoolerMaster stupid naming conventions…” coolermaster’s Ceo is probably thinking “that’s a stupid shirt…”…hahaha
Man, with all of the new good SFF cases coming out, it makes me really want one, especially after seeing this! I would totally do another build with that one. And YES, I look forward to any non-regular Jay build videos, hell, even regular Jay videos!
Super thin 120mm fans will fit fine in the bottom, Scythe makes some 12mm thick ones, they are perfectly good fans
I think there will be a GPU support-braket if you take a look at the bottom. There are four holes on the bottom placed basically at the end of a large GPU.
I would definitely love to see your daughter build her first computer with this case!😆
Would love to see a build and temp test between glass and vented doors
When you do a build, can you please do a comparison on thermals and noise compared to a tower case. This would help tremendously for users that are looking at converting to small form factor.
Would be better if they put front IO actually on the front of the case. Having it on top makes it inaccesible in some installations.
Also having the AIO and PSU optional would be great. For example in my country right now the price for separate components (NR200P+AIO+PSU) is like 2/3 of the NR200P MAX price.
I have the white NR200P case and i managed to cram in a Noctua C14S CPU cooler, 5 case fans, a 750 watt PSU, 3 2.5 hard drives, and some rgb strips. It ended up exhausting out the right side.
9:25 after Jay is like "Hey look the back panel swings out" there's literally a label on the back saying don't swing it out, lift it off >_< lol
4:55 hah, I love naming characters in MMOs 'Moist' ... Usually make them old women, and then hang around groups of people until somebody loses it...
you sir are a bad man .... i heartily approve +1
That's bloody hilarious.
I think with the extra height Jay mentioned and a mesh side panel that functions similarily to a Meshify case front panel this could be a really great SFF case
If I had this case & a 3D printer, I'd install a pair of 120mm fans in the bottom, then produce a custom bracket that would fit into the holes of the fans in a double square shape that would offset the gap between the upward blowing fans & the bottom of the GPU, leaving space for the riser card. This bracket would also raise up along the back to further secure the GPU from moving around. Which should help reduce the amount of time that the GPU fans would spin.
DAAAARN! Cooler Master, hope you see this!!!!
Your new GPU bracket has more potential! Move the mounting point of the PCI-E IO section up! There will be space for bottom radiator and fans from what I can see without increasing case height!!!! Or give us the option to buy one.
It would be the best case on the market with a proper straight through chimney effect cooling.
I've been waiting to see you do this case or the Ncase M1!
M1 is fire ! :D
@@doctoreighty452 And I would have gotten one if my FTW3 card would fit with a waterblock, now I'm deciding between the Ssupd meshlicious and lian O11D mini
@@zack9692 NCase M1 will fit a 3080 ftw3 card. It takes a little effort though. I have both the SSUPD and an 011 mini. Comes down to how much rad you want. If you're okay with close to air performance, go with the SSUPD. If you wanna bunch of thicc boi rads, the 011 mini can hold 2x 360 and 1x 240 easily.
I have an M1, and love it, but it's 12.7 L in volume, whereas this one is 18.3 L for what it's worth. Still looks quite good.
@@ComputersAre8ad I am currently using a Phanteks Enthoo 719(Luxe 2) and want to downsize, originally wanted to do a custom loop in it, but it's just too cumbersome in my opinion, I bought a SSUPD, but I'm waiting on an itx MOBO now, if I don't like the temps I get then I'll go with the O11 mini because I'd love to do a hard line loop at some point
I love that you use real units when describing the gaps :D
@Gareth Tucker :D love the real American units bit. Gold!
Being an engineer I'm fully conversant with the inch conversion. Yards.miles not so much, though I'm pretty sure a mile is 1.61 km. The old imperial units are terrible to use for engineering calculations. We covered some in uni and just painful compared to using SI. But for me that was along time ago now :D
I was looking at this case with the vented side panels. I wanted to move my VR rig from the Thermaltake Core V21 because I need it to move and be easy to carry.
Also: already ordered the shirt a few days ago when you first announced it
Install spacers or taller feet and externally mount the bottom fans. Also making a shroud on the mesh side to funnel the air into the GPU, leaving the AIO to pull out the hot.
Let haters hate, you are the best dad ever!
Would have liked to see a thermal test to see the difference between the mesh and glass panel. Also, would have been nice to see if the provided psu and aio perform as expected.
Had a lot of fun watching this though, you killed me when you started questioning the love for your daughter. 😂
I'd like to see the build then thermal testing of how the airflow is and whether there's any throttling
This would be co complementary to the Corsair ONE "Star Wars PC" Mod. Imagine them both side by side.
The fact that it put together with screws is a major plus also. CM Really killed it with this one. It just works even for new commers to itx. Small but big enough to be easy to build in. Only down side over the m1 is the back let's in a lot more dust.
Jay you can use Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM fans along the bottom to bring fresh air into the case.
I can't even imagine how much the engineers that designed this case are cringing at Jay's complete lack of understanding of fluid dynamics.
My brother has the original NR200 with a FE3090 powered by a 600W psu. It runs anything, never crashed
A side panel with a big intake port for the GPU would show off the card, separate intake and exhaust, plus reduce the negative pressure.
FINALLY! A case company finally listened to people and did away with the ten million rivets! Thank you, Cooler Master!
I have Thermaltake The Tower 100 with a Gigabyte rtx 3070 ti. Glass panel makes GPU thermals in the 90s before undervolting. The two cases seem to have identical room for airflow between the GPU and glass. I say use the mesh panel and forget the glass. I still use my case but took the side closest to the GPU off.
You could get some low profile fans to stick in the bottom if you wanted more airflow. Noctua makes the AF12x15 PWM fans that are only 15mm thick instead of the more standard 25-27mm thickness.
Been on the fence about getting the non-Max version for my next build. I'm now 100% sold on the Max! Wicked video, dude!
Literally solved the problem of the first case for me, am wondering tho if you could fit two slim 120mm fans down below as intake and run the glass panel to maybe improve airflow as it forces direct flow of air upwards
I used an NR200p (non-max) because it was available quickly. Surprise: it is a very nice case. Side-mounted radiator (5950X) and bottom-mounted Radeon 6800XT both around 80C max. The only problem with the case is that it does not have a handle, but GearGrip carry straps are a reasonable workaround. For a hundred bucks it cannot be beat. The top-mounted radiator in the Max version improves on an already excellent design.
You can mount the AIO on the side with the original NR200(P). The radiator is just above the pump and it seems to run fine on my 5800x. My Asus TUF 3080Ti at the bottom exhausts hot air on both sides of the mesh panels and temps are 68c. CPU is 60-70c while gaming with 2 exhaust fans at the top. Great little case CM put together. Would prefer the AIO to be on top but doubt i'd see much difference.
17:08 "I love my kid but I don't know how much" - Jay 2021
Archiving for mini Jay
I have original case NR200, FANTASTIC CASE! Ryzen 5 3600, 850 watt PSU, RX 6800XT
LOVE this case!
Btw Jay the bottom panel pops right off to avoid all the trouble you were having at 1st.
11:49
(Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM chromax.Black.swap, Premium Quiet Slim Fan) those should work, bout half the thickness
If you want an itx case I would recommend the Lian Li TU150. It’s got a HANDLE.
Hallo 👋
I use the previous model. With 240mm Aio CPU cooling, a Rtx 3050 Gpu. And 2x 120mm Fans on top and bottom.
Perfect airflow 👍 Lightshow with corsair components.
some foam..specail anti static can and will conduct electricity..and can/will make short circuits or damage parts when under power....so always be carefull what foam you use
11:55 You need 120mmx15mm fans for the bottom. The standard 25mm thick 120s just doesn't quite fit.
wouldn't exhausting the heated graphics card air into the radiator just make the cpu hot since you're making the liquid on the radiator hot.
if ONLY they made a nice aluminium version of this...
"The GPU backplate is actualy hinged" sticker on the back says "DO NOT TURN TO SIDE" xD
@3:20 Agree. I wish Cooler Master also give color option to this MAX series. However this already 2 years, seems they doesn't listen
NICE!!! NR200 !!!! WOOHOOO GREAT TIMING NICE NICE
It has the same Ikea look of the Inwin A1 which I have and really enjoy. Really have no complaints over this case at all, more surprised it's a CM product, really like the direction they have been heading in lately.
Tiny pc's are awesome, totally gonna be my next build, cases however are rare and difficult to find, not many options.
Thanks J, just built in this case. What a dream!