Cooler Master NR200P V2 - It's a bit complicated

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @KitGuruTech
    @KitGuruTech  7 місяців тому +12

    Does this case appeal to you for any new build you have in mind? Have Cooler Master nailed the design for you? What would you change, let us know in the comments below.

    • @Theunholydebunker
      @Theunholydebunker 7 місяців тому +2

      it's a clear example of how to take a good case and make it worse in almost every regard but also charging more. the SFF discord laughed very hard at the changes, even the CM rep there alluded to the fact that he was against the changes.
      But hey CM does what they want with their money, i have no use for a case with a riser while i can better use the space by using the classic layout.

    • @chrisbullock6477
      @chrisbullock6477 6 місяців тому

      Don't think this is great for first time builders. I'd consider taking that fan out during the build and maybe swapping it for a slim 120mm fan for better gpu room on the bottom. I've done two builds with this case a Pink build for the wife in the original version, and my personal build with a 7950X-3D & 4090 using the NR200P MAX. It can be a challenge but satisfying once its actually done and working. It does make you miss cases like the Fractal Torrent Mini. I wished CoolerMaster would make a dual chamber version.

    • @cars291
      @cars291 6 місяців тому

      They had already done that before this V2 was announced.

  • @philipjfry628
    @philipjfry628 6 місяців тому +23

    Love how the first minute of the video is taken up by explaining the labyrinthine naming convention they have managed to concoct.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 6 місяців тому

      not much of a labyrinth, some numbers/letters for a model ID, then they trough V2 at the end. The only thing weird is that its not a v2. It would be like Sony do a PS4/5 Pro that was weaker than the original, or just the same with nothing really to stand out.

  • @canarychrome7012
    @canarychrome7012 7 місяців тому +6

    Good real world build there. Fascinating watching the process. Not much room for anything after that

  • @Psoewish
    @Psoewish 2 місяці тому +2

    I really like the way you tested temps and acoustics. Sure the fancy dB readouts and 17 different tests for temps are cool and all, but at the end of the day, I don't actually care that much about those. What I care about is a rough estimation of what things will sound like and rough temperatures I can expect, because believe it or not the fancy testing environments that people use do not reflect what my actual setup space is like.
    So yeah I really appreciate the more practical tests shown here, very useful. Thank you for the review :)

  • @napoficial7123
    @napoficial7123 7 місяців тому +3

    Great to see another review! Thank you Leo ❤

  • @ivan-j4l9x
    @ivan-j4l9x 6 місяців тому +11

    The front cut out is not for airflow. It is for longer gpu

  • @don.timeless4993
    @don.timeless4993 Місяць тому +1

    insanely compact! amazing video

  • @boltsandbraces6261
    @boltsandbraces6261 7 місяців тому +23

    Fair conclusion Leo. I personally wish more air coolers could be used. Sick of AIO lately.

    • @KitGuruTech
      @KitGuruTech  7 місяців тому +3

      glad you liked it but we did use an AIO in this !

    • @boltsandbraces6261
      @boltsandbraces6261 7 місяців тому

      Would a flat style air cooler from noctua or thermalright definitely not fit in this case ?

    • @Accuaro
      @Accuaro 6 місяців тому +3

      I love AIO's since, I've been using a D15 for years now haha

    • @ΕμμΜάνεσης
      @ΕμμΜάνεσης 6 місяців тому

      Get the meshroom d

    • @JDCheng
      @JDCheng Місяць тому

      @@boltsandbraces6261 Honestly, the venerable Hyper 212 Evo would fit in the original NR200 - and I'm presuming the motherboard height and case width are the same - so even a 120mm tower cooler should fit in this case without a GPU (I use a Ryzen 5 5600G without a GPU in the original for a HTPC). Otherwise would think a Noctua horizontal heatsink would fit, given that there's the power supply AND a 3.5" hard drive taking up "vertical" space on the far edge of the GPU slot which could leave room for it.

  • @cars291
    @cars291 6 місяців тому +1

    A pleasure to watch as always

  • @davefifer9712
    @davefifer9712 2 місяці тому +1

    This was an ideal choice for me, needed a case to house an upgrade GPU (longer then previous), my existing Lian Li TU150 case would not take it. Wanted to use existing parts so would not have gone for the MAX. The V2 with USB C front IO and being so flexible in build accessibility made it my top choice.

  • @theonlyredspecial
    @theonlyredspecial 6 місяців тому +2

    Good review Leo 👍🏻

  • @JeremyArchie
    @JeremyArchie 6 місяців тому +3

    They should have called this the NR210 or something. 'V2' implies that it's 'better' compared to the V1. The original NR200P is a lot more versatile, but I get why this exists. Lots of SFF enthusiasts would already have the SFF PSU and 240mm AIO, and would just need a case.

    • @matiasfrias5429
      @matiasfrias5429 Місяць тому

      Also if you can get a cheaper AIO and SFX PSU you can just buy this version and done. Or maybe you can't find a V2 MAX available but there is a V2 available.

  • @theduck17
    @theduck17 6 місяців тому +1

    I don't mind losing that extra SSD in the front since you can just stack them in that single slot and the front panel will still fit without issue. That's what I'm doing now in the original NR200P, have 2 Samsung 870EVO's taped together so I can have all my fans routed to a Corsair Commander module on the 2nd SSD spot.

  • @emily_dover
    @emily_dover 6 місяців тому +1

    Great review 👍🏻

  • @acloudonthebluestsky9687
    @acloudonthebluestsky9687 23 години тому

    this version forces you to vertical mount right guys?

  • @MjezZza
    @MjezZza 3 місяці тому +2

    He looks angry throughout the entire video 😂

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade 5 місяців тому +5

    I can tell you what happened. Executives at Cooler Master realized that they wanted to ship more of liquid coolers and power supplies. So they took their most popular case; NR200P. Which was absolutely brilliant and highly configurable. Discontinued it and turned it into a bespoke design for one configuration... So what consumers got was a worse product all-in-all... I would recommend everyone not to purchase this case to send a message to Cooler Master, that we prefer configurability.

  • @hadouken2123
    @hadouken2123 3 місяці тому

    I found a relatively good deal for a MAX V2. This will be my first PC build since 25 years ;-)

  • @brumby92
    @brumby92 6 місяців тому

    I'm certainly glad the case exists. Many sff enthusiasts will already have a power supply or cooler ready to go. I'm certainly glad the Max exists to make the whole process easier.

  • @dawsonfroemming4521
    @dawsonfroemming4521 21 день тому

    If you use the tempered glass panel instead of the mesh, will that cause a real problem?

  • @pctechadvisor
    @pctechadvisor 6 місяців тому +1

    Returned the V2 due to lack of options. Not really sure why this one is on the market. Leo did a great job with this review.

  • @jonevans2121
    @jonevans2121 4 місяці тому

    It's likely good if you already have the parts or want to shop around and potentially save a bit of money, but for people like me who want the least hassle and clean cabling, I'll happily take the new v2 max :)

  • @DoubleDrastik
    @DoubleDrastik Місяць тому

    The riser cable may add gpu problems with drivers and the 4.0/5.0 pcie interface recognizing it

  • @MikeKrasnenkov
    @MikeKrasnenkov 6 місяців тому

    I already have an SFX-L PSU. I am planning custom loop with external radiator, so I don't need the cooler. This looks like a perfect case for me. If there was only MAX barebone kit I'd never consider it.

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot 6 місяців тому

    This case is simply for people who already have an sfx psu and aio and simply want the case. No need to spend more money on parts you already have. There are a couple of other cases I wish that did this for us.

  • @Vittania
    @Vittania 6 місяців тому

    Would love to see a noise-normalised thermal comparison with the original NR200, where the vertical GPU performed quite a bit worse than the horizontal. Even more so if the GPU is thick enough to deshroud and directly use the 120mm case fans to cool it.

  • @katyperryaf8876
    @katyperryaf8876 2 місяці тому

    Would there have been enough room under the riser cable for a second intake fan?

    • @realraptor
      @realraptor Місяць тому

      i didnt had any room for my 15mm fans :(
      alot of ppl said they did but i didnt :(
      it looked like the riser cable and power connector was clashing that area :(

  • @daibonehead
    @daibonehead 6 місяців тому

    I’m disappointed the Max has been discontinued, as that’s the case that makes most sense to me.

  • @Accuaro
    @Accuaro 6 місяців тому

    This was a fun watch! Will you do more ITX case builds?

  • @chopaki.testuja3618
    @chopaki.testuja3618 6 місяців тому

    which direction is better to set the air flow? suck it in from the top through the AIO and blow it out from the bottom? Can it be the other way around, suck it in through the dock and blow it out through Aio?

  • @mcsherlocks
    @mcsherlocks 6 місяців тому

    Great review, having just done a NR200 last September as my first build, it's very fiddly indeed. I hate that they have actually reduced the choice of CPU cooling and GPU mounting options. The best upgrades are the USB-C Front panel option plus the existing two Type A's and the cooling hole at the front (sorry it's a GPU poke through hole really)
    For now a 4080 i5 1300k is enough for a few years, hopefully by the time I need there will be a NR200 v3 with more config options.

  • @jedsithor
    @jedsithor Місяць тому

    And now there's a Max version of the v2

  • @rossdev
    @rossdev 7 місяців тому

    Nice looking case! I have an old NZXT H200i, debating whether to switch it out for something new like this? UA-cam ads are really getting rather frequent and intrusive :(

  • @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626
    @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 7 місяців тому

    Not bad, seems massively restrictive for most builds, but clearly a case for someone with a very specific build in mind.

  • @Robtang42
    @Robtang42 7 місяців тому +1

    I thought the V1 was going to be discontinued, it doens't seem like there is any stock of it atm. As a V1 owner I don't like the V2, the only good thing are the fan rails on the roof of the case...but it removes a lot of options from the V1. I probably looking elsewhere if I need to replace any of my V1s

    • @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626
      @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 6 місяців тому

      I cant remember the V1, what did they remove in the V2 ? I see they have a V2 MAX as well out now.

    • @deviantbuilds
      @deviantbuilds 6 місяців тому

      According to machines and more cooler master decided not to discontinue the far superior nr200p.

    • @deviantbuilds
      @deviantbuilds 6 місяців тому

      ​@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 flexibility, the max and this doesn't let the user pick their own build. Can't use any great air coolers, can't do triple rad custom loop, can't choose vertical or horizontal gpu.

  • @kls1836
    @kls1836 7 місяців тому

    Whats the difference in dimensions between max and the v2…? From the video the v2 looks smaller.

    • @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626
      @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 7 місяців тому

      I think they now do a MAX 2 as well. THe Max is 377x185x292. The NR200P V2 here is 372 x 185 x 292mm - so I think they are the same, based on the CM website, which is a mess to navigate.

  • @andychen7016
    @andychen7016 5 місяців тому

    I think there are some people who wanted the Max but without the AIO and PSU, because I wanted to install an AIO or PSU of their choice.
    Another reason is for those who want to put a custom water inside it.

    • @JDCheng
      @JDCheng Місяць тому

      The other point made about the original NR200 was that the radiator for the AIO wasn't at the top of the loop, so the pump could theoretically have bubbles trapped inside when the fluid permeates. With vertical GPU mounts, some put the radiator in the floor of the old case. This could then lead to relatively premature pump failure.

  • @ivan-j4l9x
    @ivan-j4l9x 6 місяців тому

    Can i buy this case to change the colour of the pannels (top sides front) on my nr200p max as well as the usb power switch module? i don't want to rebuild my pc just give it a face-lift.

    • @deviantbuilds
      @deviantbuilds 6 місяців тому +1

      You can

    • @ivan-j4l9x
      @ivan-j4l9x 6 місяців тому

      @deviantbuilds I never liked that muddy grey colour of the max.

  • @RainbowSunset-uq2hs
    @RainbowSunset-uq2hs 7 місяців тому

    I like it !

  • @drewnewby
    @drewnewby 6 місяців тому

    Cooler Master in it's heyday would have none of this. Now, just slap a newish name on existing tooling, and off we go with a "new" sku. I'm sure the manufacturer was thrilled.

  • @notmatt5864
    @notmatt5864 6 місяців тому

    This case could have been perfect with a horizontal gpu mount.

  • @BouiBoui12
    @BouiBoui12 6 місяців тому

    Not sure how this is an improvement compared to the much more versatile v1… the front panel USB-C maybe…?

  • @vader3853
    @vader3853 6 місяців тому +2

    They should have made it exactly the same as the NR200 but with the ability to top mount a rad or fans like in the V2 or max. And then called it the NR200 Evo....job done
    This is not great for those that air cool.

  • @deviantbuilds
    @deviantbuilds 6 місяців тому

    The max had issues with the aio and psu. Noisy pump and psu, people would end up changing them up. So it would end up being a waste of money to buy it. I always thought it was an awful purchase, as it was 400 usd.
    Cooler master decided to sell the case by itself with new side panesl and usb-c but..... they did indeed want this to replace the standard nr200p, hence the name v2.
    Once this was reported by pc world, most of the community was not happy about it. Cooler master got lots of negative feedback, as the v2 is a far more limiting case.
    Eventually, they rolled back the decision to discontinue the nr200p and left the name v2 on this model. I'm guessing they didn't want to spend the money to reprint manuals and boxes to change the name.

  • @inmypaants
    @inmypaants 6 місяців тому +1

    Should just call it the NR200P H2O

  • @jnasho09
    @jnasho09 6 місяців тому

    Better use the mesh since you can't see the other components because it's covered by the gigantic GPU.

  • @stickyfingers9710
    @stickyfingers9710 7 місяців тому

    I quite like this design overall, but the naming and overall products they have for sale seem very very messy. someone needs to talk to the PM and start streamlining their range a little.

    • @rufusmctavish1164
      @rufusmctavish1164 7 місяців тому

      Thats always been a Cooler Master 'thing' - their naming conventions and product stacks are very confusing.

  • @vincentvega3093
    @vincentvega3093 7 місяців тому

    Had a NR200P and got rid of it the moment i got a Ghost Loque S1 at their sale. It was ok for getting into sff pc building

  • @daibonehead
    @daibonehead 6 місяців тому

    I’ll tell you why that case exists - they’ve taken the psus out of the old MAX stock, discontinued the MAX, then used the psus in the ncore max.
    Speculation on my part, but…..

  • @drian1236
    @drian1236 6 місяців тому

    Oh gosh I really don't know what build to do next. For 16 years I ran everything inside the original Cooler Master Cosmos, with the original case fans, and my original 850W Cooler Master PSU working flawlessly for all that time. But now... I don't "need" HDD bays, or optical drive bays (useful, but not used enough so I would get a USB one).
    So I am really struggling for what build I would go with - ATX or SFF. I have an XFX MERC 310 7900 XTX, which is humungous of course, so something that fits that is essential. As for CPU - I generally rock the "700" version of a ryzen 7 CPU - currently the 5700X - I don't need a 100W CPU anymore but my use-case has changed from "scientific" to mostly "gaming" and photo editing.
    But I loved the Cosmos because of the sound-proofing inside it - I like quiet PCs! Though I appreciate maybe things have gotten quieter for case fans etc in the past 16 years. Yet, I don't like to lose performance...
    So is it possible to go SFF with such a huge GPU... or am I better off with an ATX build.
    I also don't want a gazilliion utilities for different RGB / monitoring software, so one manufacturer of most of the components is ideal.
    So where do I go!? Cooler Master? NZXT?
    If anyone can help...!

  • @Purjo92
    @Purjo92 7 місяців тому

    I don't see why this would be an unnecessary release. Some people already have SFX PSU and AIO but might want to switch to another case. Others may want to buy a different AIO, go with an air cooler, or prefer a custom loop. Some might choose a different PSU with different specifications or just like another PSU brand. Sure, I agree that the case has a little bit misleading name because it's strongly related to the previous Max version, but it's not the most horrific naming scheme, looking at you Nvidia.

    • @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626
      @hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 7 місяців тому

      Yeah good point, but it seems to be confusing a lot of people in comments.

    • @buyingastairwaytoheaven5252
      @buyingastairwaytoheaven5252 7 місяців тому

      Yeah Nvidia are the worst, no dbout about it. I think this V2 has a place in the line up, but their naming is just confusing people. Leo nailed it in this video. Its a pretty useful product as you say for people who want to switch and try a different cooler.

    • @boltsandbraces6261
      @boltsandbraces6261 6 місяців тому

      I dont think this is as good as the V1 they cancelled. Fan rails are good in roof, but they removed some things I liked after doing some research.

  • @CaptConfusion71
    @CaptConfusion71 6 місяців тому

    Once again, Leo pulls no punches......

  • @amalek.92
    @amalek.92 6 місяців тому

    The naming scheme IS stupid, but the case is immaculate.

  • @NBWDOUGHBOY
    @NBWDOUGHBOY 7 місяців тому

    Quantum tech and Jayztwocents would put a 14900K & 4090 in this Water Cooled no problem.

  • @TheFrenchXC
    @TheFrenchXC 2 місяці тому

    im getting this due to my gpu is so big!

  • @DanIsNotHome
    @DanIsNotHome 6 місяців тому

    The whole vertical GPU mounting only is dumb and riser cables suck! Every time PCI-E raises a generation it introduces a whole set of headaches and cost too. Not everyone wants to install an AIO with the associated extra failure points.
    To call this a real V2 upgrade, keep the USB-C Front Panel upgrade and the extra room at the front of the case for longer graphics cards, and maybe the changes to how the case can be disassembled.
    Another real improvement to the case would be some kind of concession for RAM cooling, as the limited airflow around that area of the case does impact tuning potential considerably. I guess this was too hard for the Cooler Master engineers to think about and design.

  • @kieran9882
    @kieran9882 2 місяці тому

    I got 2 unskippable ads every 2 minutes starting from minute 1, it's getting bit out of hand

  • @Prime0pt
    @Prime0pt 6 місяців тому

    AIO pipes not long enough for this case

  • @fairycat
    @fairycat 6 місяців тому

    With such cooling system you could put here intel’s 14700kf .

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades 7 місяців тому

    Based on the specs it looks like it might just barely fit a Powercolor red devil RX7900XT

    • @LeMonke-kj8zj
      @LeMonke-kj8zj 5 місяців тому

      It fits my SFX 7900XT just fine and that is one of the biggest 7900XT cards on the market, just built it last night

  • @mathew6097
    @mathew6097 6 місяців тому

    the v1 is better, you option to put large air cooler or aio cooler

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 6 місяців тому +20

    It's worse than the original NR200P, but costs $120. WTF.

    • @JacquiPenar
      @JacquiPenar 3 місяці тому +2

      How is it worse?🤔

    • @SoulEsne
      @SoulEsne 2 місяці тому

      ​@@JacquiPenar not sure if the V2 has it but I have the first version and my radiator is mounted on the included bracket with four fans so it pulls air in from the vented side panel. I could move the GPU to a vertical position with the riser cable and mount the radiator in the bottom. I was going to get the V2 but I opted out because it looks pretty impossible to mount a radiator in the top with 4 fans and I would be limited to just two.

    • @inked-96
      @inked-96 Місяць тому +1

      How's it worse? 😂 I couldn't fit my 4090 in the original. Now I can...

    • @inked-96
      @inked-96 Місяць тому

      ​@SoulEsne a radiator with 4 fans? What you expect to fit? A 420 rad?😂

    • @SoulEsne
      @SoulEsne Місяць тому

      @@inked-96 to be fair what I did was absurdly difficult to install but I installed a 280mm rad with 4 140mm fans. I have always put fans on both sides of my radiator and a mini itx case isn't going to stop me now lol.

  • @matthewrezuke8130
    @matthewrezuke8130 6 місяців тому

    I'll take this over the Lian li A3..

  • @Buffinator1988
    @Buffinator1988 7 місяців тому +1

    The nr200p max is end of life according to Scans website.
    Cooler master now have a Nr200p Max v2 on their website now, extra couple cm for gpu length, improved ventilation and the PSU is now atx 3.0
    The non max version makes zero sense unless you've already got an sfx psu and an aio you want to reuse.

  • @joemarais7683
    @joemarais7683 6 місяців тому

    I just can’t believe they made the NR200P worse, and then had the brilliant idea of discontinuing the better version. Completely disinterested in the product.

  • @andrev5207
    @andrev5207 6 місяців тому

    Well it would seem to suit an Intel i7 and i9 which run far too hot for an air cooler anyway. Only problem is the minimum recommended radiator needed is 340mm. The NR200P max came preinstalled with a “special” 280mm radiator with an extra 25% fins over standard radiators which is just ok for an i9. So Intel guys are going to need to really think carefully about the choice of water cooler if they choose this case. I am building an NR200P max as we speak and purchased two optional extra fans for the bottom of the case. Unfortunately with the riser card in place, a slim “15mm” 120mm fan is the biggest that will fit under the cpu.

    • @andrev5207
      @andrev5207 6 місяців тому

      Great review also. Straight down to the important stuff, no faffing about and no wasting time on shiny things.

  • @justeddm
    @justeddm 6 місяців тому

    Cm should not produce this in big volumes

    • @KitGuruTech
      @KitGuruTech  5 місяців тому

      Why ?

    • @justeddm
      @justeddm 5 місяців тому

      @@KitGuruTech waste of resources

  • @justeddm
    @justeddm 6 місяців тому +1

    Terrible thermals, sticking to matx decision

  • @kearmau5
    @kearmau5 6 місяців тому

    eyy, easy with that case man, dont slap things to the table wth

    • @theonlyredspecial
      @theonlyredspecial 6 місяців тому

      It’s probably already in the bin so I wouldn’t worry about it 😅

    • @kearmau5
      @kearmau5 6 місяців тому

      @@theonlyredspecial they don't care about them cause they got them for free from OEMs, unlike us who get this stuff with our hard earned money

  • @xBINARYGODx
    @xBINARYGODx 6 місяців тому +1

    Continue to flash the bird as us - so rude. One wonders if he has a specific person or group in mind.

  • @shaye-uv6tw
    @shaye-uv6tw 5 місяців тому

    this is legitimately just a worse version of the case- this has always been the affordable option for an ITX case and they go with 120 dollars- pure liquid cooling in mind
    Also, I don’t even know the purpose of them giving a tempered glass panel. It’s just gonna smother the GPU.
    This is a total step back in every single way I hope they start releasing the old version again because this is a step back in every single way

  • @thetechdevil-jn1vo
    @thetechdevil-jn1vo 7 місяців тому

    Well I agree. It’s a stupid name. 😂

  • @100500daniel
    @100500daniel 6 місяців тому

    man that cpu cooler sucks for this 7800x3d. a 30$ phantom spirit will do a much better job

  • @BraveGuardian
    @BraveGuardian 6 місяців тому

    You can't see your components any More😂 bec of the graphics card Mount

  • @vaporhazy
    @vaporhazy 5 місяців тому

    the V2 is a straight downgrade- the design is very limiting now.

  • @Berlinticket
    @Berlinticket Місяць тому

    Air Flow Fail Crap 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lucifersheadscarf6988
    @lucifersheadscarf6988 7 місяців тому

    I may be being harsh here but this case seems utterly pointless in their current product stack.

    • @lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp
      @lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp 7 місяців тому

      its not really, its just a stupid name for the product. Like most Cooler Master products. They hire managers who just complicate things with daft conventions that make no sense.

  • @evolancer211
    @evolancer211 2 місяці тому

    I don't like this guy