2 Years of NR200 - What Do We Know About Cooling It?
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- It's been two years of learning about the Cooler Master NR200! In this video I'll summarize best practices for cooling this case, as well as give some cooling component recommendations for this case.
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Can't believe it's been two years, the NR200 has revolutionized affordable high-performance SFF cases
Mate its a metal box with some holes in it lmao
@@doogan8255 That's not his point. No one before Cooler Master attempted to make such case at an extremely affordable price that still offers a large amount of compatibility and options. It's still a top notch to this day.
@@doogan8255 why dont you get a metal box drill some holes in it and use it as your case then lmao
@@dannyheemhe is prob some 12 yo kid trying to act smart
@@distorteduziOr venting because Mom caught him buying PC parts with her credit card. 😂
What I know about the nr200: I bought it thanks to you, and set it up watching your videos!
me too...
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I put an RTX 4080 Founders and a Ryzen 7800X3D into one of these with a Noctua NH-D12L with TWO fans in rear intake configuration locked at 700rpm. And two Noctua 120mm LS (low speed) variants as exhaust at the top of the case. Both set at a locked 1000rpm. Basically dead silent.
I 100% sealed both side panels with vinyl adhesive sheet, so that air can only enter the bottom of the case, and air can only exit the top. One straight, efficient path. (Minor exceptions, the CPU draws air from the rear panel, and the Founders Edition GPU obviously exhausts some hot air out of the rear. Which is genius on Nvidia’s part. And which I believe is a tremendous benefit that the inside of the case never even sees that hot air straight off the GPU’s PCB. It just goes straight out the back the moment it is created).
And the fact that the founders edition cards draw air exclusively from their underside matches perfectly with the case drawing in fresh air through the bottom. So that 4080 gets exclusively fresh air that just got pulled in the bottom. Half of the air gets blown past the 4080s PCB and shot directly out the back of the case, and the other half gets shot directly to the top exhaust fan and blasted out the top of the case immediately. So the CPU and GPU are both exclusively fed direct cold air. And hot air from both the GPU and from the CPU never touch any other components, and are both immediately ejected out of the top of the case.
The efficient air path (and exceptional quality fans) is the reason why I can turn the fans down to extremely low RPMs and still get great temperatures. Also, the 7800X3D has record-breaking power efficiency, and the RTX 40-series generation also has exceptional power efficiency. And on top of that the 4080 has a ridiculously oversized cooler. All of these factors add up. The whole system doesn’t make a peep. Even when running Cyberpunk at 4k in path tracing overdrive mode, both the CPU and GPU stay at 60°C. Once again, the whole system is silent. You need to put your year touching the top exhaust to hear a faint breeze of air.
And I only could have done this by standing on the shoulders of your experience. Thanks, my man.
For anyone wondering, I was able to fit an arctic cooling liquid freezer ii 280mm on the side panel with an asus rog crosshair 8 impact. It required me taking the top case bracket off temporarily so I could flex the rear of the chassis a bit so I could install the radiator and bracket on the side. I also installed fan grills to keep tubing out of the blades. Works great, but does make shaping components a pain
Can attest to this, managed to fit a Corsair H115i PRO XT RGB (280mm rad) wiggled it in after taking the side bracket off to cool a 5600X at the time on an Aorus X570-I.
I didn't had to do that for my part, tight fit but it's ok
Like week ago, I made it with i5 12600k, Arctic Liquid ii 240 and RX 6900 xt. Two noctuas on top. I haven’t had so much fun with pc build for years ! :-) NR200 is King.
did you get 2 bottom fans?
@@jumaz500 no, not enough space.
RX 6900 fans are doing the job anyway. So I have pull on gpu, pull on AIO and push on top Noctuas.
Didn't try a stress test it yet. Maybe will need to do an AIO for RX too.
We will see :-)
done the same minus the amd prism cpu cooler to help cool the motherboard and a 92mm rear intake fan. 6900xt and shes pulling fine temps with my ryzen 5 5600x cpu overclocked!
Holy cow - this channel is incredible for NR200 users! I'm putting together my first PC in a decade and I was worried that the NR200 was priced so cheaply. This channel has put all of those worries to rest, and taken all of the stress out of figuring out a cooling setup. Thank you so much!
Thank you for the 2 years of information and testing you've done with this case. You absolutely helped me choose parts for my NR200 build so that I could get the best setup for my dollar. I just pre-ordered my Streacom DA6 to replace my NR200 on my desk, but it'll live on as my mobile LAN party PC. Thanks again man!
thank you for keeping updating us on long term performance and reviews! :)
excellent overview, thanks. As someone who's only putting together a PC now, two years after most people already covered the NR200 cases, it's helpful to have so much info gathered into one video.
2 years of a flawless setup due to your in depth initial review ! thanks again Machines & more!
Not sure how you did it but that was a wicked fast summary of fan options while also being as detailed as needed to make a conscience decision. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the great data and commentary, running an NR200 NH-c14 5700x and deshrouded 3060ti, my dream of a decently powerful SFF that is near silent is sitting on the desk next to me. Would not have exhausted the deshroud out the bottom without this channel. Thanks again for your really impressive coverage of this case and the dedicated testing done to make the content. Keep at it
Built my first Mini-ITX build and uses this case. Love it! So easy to build in and temps have been amazing.
There is no better case than that on the market. The diversity it offers is unbeatable. Thanks for all your NR200 videos, you are indeed an NR200 king of UA-cam. Been watching and building together with you! Much success to your channel!
I love my NR200! I have it underneath my desk, stood up on its front panel using some stick-on rubber feet. It saves a lot of space in this configuration.
Nice, I've been looking into a similar configuration, how is the cooling compared to horizontal? are you using the 92mm exhaust fan?
@@gabejanssen4826 I don't notice a difference in thermals, personally. My build is a modest RTX 2060 and Ryzen 2700X with a 280mm AIO as side intake. CPU Temps are always in the low 40s, and the GPU goes up to 70.
I 100% built my NR200 over covid with your help and could NOT be happier - thank you for all you do 🙏
im building my 1st sff with NR200, this has been very helpful. thank you
Great desk 😁Awesome and very informative video, as always 😍 Thank you for sharing!
I've been watching your videos for a couple of weeks now and I just want to thank you so much for all the absolutely great videos. I just ordered a new NR200P in Caribbean blue and I'll be putting in a new 13600K and recycling my old EVGA 1080SC and you just mentioned the Mugen C, which I'll be using and seeing it turned around in your picture of it with the intake fan really made me feel good about going with it and trying my first small form factor box. I was wondering if it could be turned around and that one picture helped a lot.
Really, man, you do great work.
I’ve just ordered all the parts for my nr200 build and and thx to u I’m going to have a very efficient build
Thank you for the TLDR, helps my tower air cooler search and airflow upgrade.
Your videos have helped me out so much with my NR200 build bro so thank you!!!!!!
I just wanna say i bought this case back in 2020 for my first build thanks to you!!
I love the design of this case! I am waiting for am5 to finish my build but im so stoked!
exactly the video i was looking for, keep it up!
coming back to this video after building in the nr200, the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 fits however it does scrape on the way in and you'll have to unscrew one of the posts to get it in. very difficult to route the tubing as it's very stiff but you can use zipties to hold them in specific spots. yes you can fit both top fans in even with this thick aio
This is the reason I subscribed two years ago. Cheers.
I am planning to do my first ever ITX build in this case before the end of the year!! 😎 Ryzen 5600X + SE-224-XT and RX6800! Thank you for the video.
Brilliant upload! Many thanks!!
Man, the NR200 brought me to your channel. Thanks for the brilliant coverage and I look forward to what's coming next in the ITX space.
About the Noctua U12A, I suggest doing your research on whether it works with your particular motherboard model. With my Gigabyte X570 I, the vented side panel does not close perfectly but stays on just fine. You may need smaller motherboard standoffs or bending the motherboard frame slightly to make this big cooler fit without issue. Different specimens of the U12A can apparently have slight variance in the length of the heatpipes poking out the top and this can cause the problem and the same goes to the placement of the CPU socket as that will have some effect on where the cooler sits.
Thank you. Other youtubers who do case review always fail to do thermal showcase and follow up.
Love my NR200! A side-intake Noctua NH-C14S keeps my 12700K cool, and the bottom-intake keeps my 3080 FE chillin even at 300W.
That Video was extremly useful! Just got my NR 200 and got quite bad thermals with a Ryzen 7 5800 x3d and bequiet pure Rock 2. Based on your recommendations I will get some additional (Noctua) cooling.
I am rocking my Nr200 :) I5-12600 on B560 board with side mounted CoolerMaster entry level ML240L :) GPU is 3060 with two additional bottom intake fans :) and top exhaust - thanks to you of course ;)
Thank you so much for your content on the NR 200. Big help for PC building noobs like myself.
Fantastic summary!
I just built my new sff pc with a NR200P case. I’m loving it so far. One thing im having trouble is the velcro. I don’t know why it doesn’t stick. I just cabled tie them around the psu shroud and it works hahaha.
Still love my NR200. It's going to be my chassis through the foreseeable future
Nice summary. So many options and such an affordable entry to ITX building.
I would like to see an updated nr200max ‘core‘ without the price tag of included psu and aio.
A usb C for IO and more space/ 2cm wider body for beefier towers
Yeah a small update with usb c front IO and a little extra space (might be able to fit d15) would be awesome.
I have only 2x 120 mm bottom intake fans, cut out the mesh (greatly reduced turbulence and noise) and use only the dust filter in that position. Cooler master 212 with push pull config, airflow towards the back. Psu intake to through the front wall (cut a hole into the front channel) this pulls cool air straight from the bottom fans. Undervolted RTX 3080 and i5 12400f. This has to be the most silent yet the coolest running pc I've ever had. Great case. Super happy.
Finally got my build after watching tons of videos - and yours definitely helps ! Leaving the build here so you can have another idea to test your CPU and GPU
CPU: Intel Core i5 11400F
Motherboard: Asus Z590i ROG STRIX
RAM: Patriot Viper Steel 3200MHz 32GB (16x2)
GPU: RTX 3080 EVGA FTW3 Ultra 10GB
PSU: Cooler Master SFX 850W Plus Gold
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
HDD: Barcuda Seagate 2TB 5400 RPM
Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L (intake)
Fans:
- Top: Cooler Master Sickle Flow 120mm x2 (Exhaust)
- Rear: Noctua NF-A9 Chromax Black Swap 92mm x1 (Intake)
- Side: Arctic P14 PWM PST 140mm x1 (exhaust)
thank you for your sharing! top content, indeed. nice and straight to the point vids!
currently trying to purchase the tower cooler for my r7 5700x(paired with Asus TUF 6800)... have access to all ID-Cooling lineup - can you recommend best one please? Stock ID cooling fans will be replaced to BeQuiet PWM high speed 120mm fans....
This video came at a perfect timing, as I'm preparing my next build, and my first mini itx build in the NR200P!
Thanks for the great and very informative video M&M! Your videos about the NR200P has made my journey of researching what fits and is recommended a lot easier!
While I never did end up buying the NR200, it was the reason I found and subscribed to the channel. Maybe the NR200 for a future Zen4 ITX build is going to happen.
I hope it happens!
Muchas gracias! te sigo desde hace 2 años, copiando tus configuraciones para NR200/P
Excellent summary! Used your vids to build an nr200 for a friend. Sfx-l PSU made it difficult (p12 slim fits above the PSU).
Are you planning on getting the t1 ref? Would love to see you test configs in it.
Did two top exhaust 120s, Noctua ud9s cooler in push-pull exhausting out the rear, a side 120 fan attached to bracket bringing in fresh air for the cpu and helping blowing more air over motherboard components, and a deshrouded 6800xt with two noctua u12a fans strapped on, exhausting out the bottom. You can flip the fans as intakes, makes a few degrees difference but really heats up the internals of the case.
The most work i've put into a configuration, but very happy with the result, and the case!
Awesome video, mate. Do you think the Deepcool AK400 will fit this case?
Thanks for your NR200 videos this past couple of years guided me through my first ever PC Build
I am now trying to upgrade my 1060 to either a 4080 or 7900xtx so i'm not sure if i cam keep using bottom fans with my window panel
Should i configure the pc fans to exhaust as well as the top fans?
The king of the NR200 right here, nobody better than Machines & More for it
The Fractal Lumen is also a great choice for a bottom mounted AIO, no inline pump helps alleviate the clearance issues the Pure Loop has with bigger GPUs
Thanks for these very informative videos. Out of curiosity, what are the screw/bolts you use when pressing the top fans into the rubber grommets of the top panel?
Thanks, great video. For a build with a high-end GPU and high-end CPU, would you recommend the C14S or the Arctic 280mm?
I just want to add that, at least in Germany, Noctua often sells returned fans as used for 5-12 € off on Amazon. So you can get the fans with official warranty for a lot less money. I feel that makes getting Noctua fans that much more cost effective.
Seems to not be the case in America, or maybe there are none on offer right now. But it may be worth a look.
Thank you!
Just thought to pop in here to thank you for your informative channel... I've been running an optimized airflow build for my NR200P (APU only, air cooled) without a hitch for almost two years!
I'm a big fan (lol) of the rear exhaust config, since it benefits from the panel meshing and lowers dust ingress. Might need to change to intake when I finally get a decent GPU at acceptable price, though. ;-)
APUs are great for youtube contents, in real life it's a niche as almost any graphics card will be a better solution
Finally did a custom loop in the NR200. Dual 240mm is very doable without any modding. Top radiator has to be the Hanjang 17mm with a set of 15mm fans. Bottom rad depends on how thick the gpu block is. My setup is 5900x barrow pump block+ 3080 Vision with byski block, 240x17mm Hanjang radiator, 240x22mm XSPC radiator, all rad fans are slim P12s, and side intake are 2 regular P12s.
Good work. The XSPC also works in the top with minor modifications to the top piece and to the fan that otherwise touches the CPU fan header (on the B550-I Strix).
Found your channel 1 year ago, and built my NR200p based on some of your ideas. Currently have intel 17- 10700 cpu with Scythe Mugen 5. cooler , ROG STRIX B560-1 MB and a ASUS TUF RTX 3080 OC. Runs extremely quite a cool with mesh panel.
Is It noisy?
Quick note about the bottom mounted AIO setup. I have a Deepcool 280mm AIO bottom mounted in a NR200P and have to say that a bottom mounted AIO (vert. mounted GPU) makes things so much easier if you need to gain access to the mobo. When the AIO was mounted to the side bracket, I had to remove both the AIO and, and even the GPU in order to reach the mobo (not easy to do with a 280mm radiator), whereas now all I have to do is remove the GPU and immediately have access to the RAM/M.2 slots without having to even touch the AIO. Great video btw!
any temp difference for the cpu & gpu..?
The best cooler that fits on specifications for the nr200 I have seen is the peerless assassin 120 and for the price looks like the ultimate choice
The nr200 is why I watched your channel lol
This guy is an expert on this case. Let's not ignore this fact
Been using the Be Quiet Dark Rock TF2 does a great job for CPU thermals
starting to like your channel, its ITX focused
Currently got bottom
-top flow and an NH-C14S on CPU, also got the 92 mm back side fan set as intake. So far performs great, but I’m not sure if the back fan isn’t causing any turbulence or interfering with C14S in other way? Got any insight on that?
great content, i'm going for a 3060ti build for blender use, video editing and some productivity. what do you recommend as a holy grail components for an air cooled stealth no rgb ventilated side build? bottom to top air flow would be best, i dont want it throwing heat in my facing sitting right next to it. Thanks
Just put together a 12700f + 3070 PC on this case a week ago and it's doing great! Used your videos a lot, although I'll need to install some more things still.
Went with the Noctua D12L and it works wonders, though I feel the intake is a bit low so I'll try and add a second fan. Also gonna need some slim fans for the bottom intake since the normal ones I got don't fit below the gpu.
Did some undervolting on my card too and the PC is doing perfectly now!
Does undervolting hurt performance?
@@jhellier if done correctly it normally increases performance, and even when it doesn't, it has a big effect on temps.
My gpu lost around 10 degrees when at full load in benchmarks and increased perf by like 4-5%
@@Morden97 hmm, sounds too good to be true. If that is the case why don't manufacturers do it by default?
@@jhellier my guess is they go with a standard voltage at which they can ensure all cards they make will work.
As is the case with overclocking too, some chips just are not good undervolters and will crash easily, while others will do better, it's basically lottery at that point.
There's easy undervolting guides for GPUs that can tell you what voltage seems safe for your specific card, it literally takes like 5 minutes to do and if it fails you can just revert it and no harm is done. It's worth a try.
OMG... this video is exactly what I was looking for.
I have the same GPU (3080 XC3) and I was wondering how the temps would be using the configuration that u shown in the video (bottom intake with 2 extra intake fans)
Could you PLEASE tell me how are the GPU temps????
i love this case and i don't want to update my 5900x anytime soon and my RAM is good. The only option i would considerr updating is from this AIO b/c it's starting to gargle water and make noise nonstop b/c it's not the optimal tubing formation, it's sideways rather than above the pump. The other thing i would consider updating is the GPU. Maybe not the 4090 but if the 5090 is compatible and a beast in the future i'd really consider updating it as long as it fits the NR200.
Have you considered covering the SAMA IM02? It's sorta like an NR200 clone but mATX sized (and cheap).
I would have liked to see some custom watercooling insights
So all things considered, what is the suggested setup between tower and topdown air coolers? I'm planning to build a 12600k + 3060ti Founders, and can't decide between a big shuriken or something like the fluma2
I'm going to apply all that to the Sama IM01.
this case can do anything its crazy
We need a review of the new SSUPD meshroom S with an ATX build
have you tried the Thermaltake PA SE 120 with this case?
I am planning a nr200p build with 2 slim 240 rads with slim fans on both the bottom and side panel. WI try it with a 5800x3D and a watercooled 3080 or 3080ti
Great video and quick to the point :) Does anyone know if I'll encounter problems with a Sapphire 6700xt Pulse and bottom fans?
I’m a bit late to the video but I was wondering about adding the 2 bottom intake fans exactly like your set up with the 3080. Do you think adding the bottom fans so close to the GPU would produce better thermals?
would the fan under the heat sink for top down coolers be configured to pull air towards the motherboard as well? so the side panel fan and the heatsink fan both move air in the same direction?
Is it possible to make a meshlicious version of this? Want everything to be summed up and ideal building scenarios.
I've watched most of your NR200, NR200P max build and review. but haven't see any hyte revolt 3 build in your videos. Is it a bad case for any build?
Just curious if noctua c14s can fit on it.
I've got a 120mm aio for my gtx1080 ti sc2 hybrid. So struggling to decide what's best for it. I'm think side exhaust with tower cooler as intake but will a tower cooler fit if I use the side mounting plate?
I will echo the big hoses on the AC Liquid Cooler 240 fit but its tight. Also Get an SFX PSU if you have a longer GPU. With my old SFX-L and Red Devil 6700XT even in the higher mounting spot this combo was not going to work. Also if you can get more flexible sized PSU cables if you want your build to be tidy :)
have you tested the temperature on the veritical GPU with glass panel on top radiator setup? I'm quite curious if that will choke the GPU.
Hi, would love to know which one better between mugen 5c or 207 xt slim?
I recently finished a build with the Arctic Cooling LF2 280 (serious pain in the ass, those tubes. Either get some fan grills, or have the fans pushing in/pulling out.) on the side, and an MSI Suprim x Liquid 4090 on the bottom.
Even with the tubes being the highest point of the GPU, it still worries me. I could either return the card for an air cooled MSI Gaming x Trio, do that invert mod on the case, or simply go back to air cooling on the CPU 🤔🤔
Either way thank you for all the info you provided on the NR200.
Which one is better for noise? Top down or tower cooler? I'm building with 12400 and rx6700.
Any plan to review the new Meshroom S case?
What about the back 92 mm fan for intake when I use stock AMD Ryzen cooler? Don't think it would create any turbulent airflow
Any thoughts on the ASUS AP201 case? I think that case is better for compatibility.
You can fit 3 HDD, 1 sata ssd, full atx psu, matx, 4 slot GPU, etc
You can fit a 120mm fan whre the 92mm mounting is, I have it installed with 2 screws and on the other part is resting on the mobo plastic io cover.
Why does the recommendation change from fuma 2 to mugen 5 between mesh and tempered glass? Is there a significant difference between the coolers?
Would you still recommend the Cooler Master MA612 Stealth? I have the NR200 and am planning to upgrade my 3600x to a 5800x3d paired with a 6800xt gpu. haven't seen a lot of reviews about the Coolermaster cooler aside from your previous video in 2021, which has it perform comparable to the U12A. My concern is the compatibility with the case. Any issues with clearance etc?
does deep cool LS520 have the pump in the block so that putting it on the bottom is okay ?
Wait, u can put ur radiator on that tg bracket panel? I not even know that possible! Do any aio 240mm fit it ? Pls answerrr
How do you actually mount the included Sickleflow 120mm fans to the bottom as intake? I don't see any screw holes, and the included screws are not sharp enough for me to make my own threading (which I've read is something I may have to do).
Any thoughts about the NR200P MAX?, it's a good option/configuration?
Hi, i want to build and itx 13400F + 4070 Super for me, and a 7600 + 7800 XT for a friend.
For both builds i'm suposing to use the NR200P with thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE pulling air out.
Using the 2 fans on botton pulling air in, and 2 fans on top pulling air out.
Do you thing this setup for fans works on both builds?