Thanks to everyone who requested this video. Highly recommend checking out Chis Fix' video on removing sugar from a fuel system. ua-cam.com/video/tRM-n15tuXs/v-deo.html
Project Farm hahahaha, hope you didn't take the eariler comment as an insult but i finished the video and i was like wtf am i doing, how did i get gere 😂😂
I would experiment, I only have vague memories of a conversation with a Petchem engineer twenty five odd years ago, He'd had problems with locals where he worked in Saudi dropping salt in fuel tanks. I have some kero here, will see if that dissolves salt. Cheers, J.
I have been a professional automotive technician for 26 years (Chrysler master Tech and Ford Senior Master Tech), and now for the past 5 years I have been an automotive instructor. I have seen many, many examples of sugar sabotage. I have seen the same thing happen every time on cars that are fuel injected ( most everything has been fuel injected for the past 30-35 years). Here is what I have seen: Most of the sugar stays in the tank, with a small amount migrating past the fuel pump, and whatever filtration there may be on the car. (Most cars do not have a replaceable fuel filter anymore). The small amount of sugar that gets to the fuel injectors stops there in the injectors. For whatever reason, whether its temperature change, size of pintle passages, flow and pooling of fuel at that point, the sugar seems to stop right there in the injectors. This ruins the injectors. They will stop working due to the pintles freezing up inside the injectors and nozzle stoppage. This causes, either a no start, or a misfire if there are some injectors still working. What we have done to repair this in the dealerships that I have worked in was, replace all injectors, replace fuel pressure regulator if equipped, drop tank and clean thoroughly, replace fuel pump, replace filter if equipped, and thoroughly flush fuel rails and all lines. Put new gas in and test drive. Some insurance companies also want the engine oil changed, though this doesn't seem to have any real connection to sugar in gas, its just their policy. These steps have always fixed this issue. These cars come back in for regular services with no long term issues noted by us, or the customer.
darren beanard someone put sugar in my gas tank and I took it to the dealership. They have almost a month fixing it and they changed the fuel tank the fuel pumps and idk what else but the car still does not work. They flushed out the system but nothing. Now they're saying that they either need to get into the engine or just get a new engine. What do you think?is it bullshit about needing a new engine?
Wow, this was one of those things I absolutely believed without question: both that sugar in a gas engine, and pissing in a gas engine were sure ways to destroy them. so if I ever intended to stop someone's car with sugar, I'd be VERY disappointed had I not seen this video. Thank you for posting!
Urine would almost certainly cause catastrophic and immediate engine damage, as would any significant volume of other aqueous solutions (or water itself).
I wanted to give a quick commendation. I saw you are now showing the before and after results side by side like I had suggested in a previous video! It's so cool to see someone car enough about his viewers' thoughts to actually give them a try. Thank you!!
Brandon, A big "thank you" to you for this recommendation! This greatly improved the ability of viewers to compare before and after results! Thanks again for the recommendation and for commenting!
This guy could have literally made thousands of dollars off these videos but he doesn’t monetize them. I think it’s because it’s not about the money. He values the the community more. Thanks. And I would use the b12 additive😂
@@mikenco UA-cam pays professional UA-camrs about $5.00 per 1000 ad views (says Google). So he had 2.6 million views and 2 commercials at the beginning. Do the math. I could be wrong, if I am please correct me. I hate disinformation...
@@SeasparrowDD979 Agree! The person who said Project Farm doesn't make money is completely clueless. When he buys 15 identical socket extensions, then destroys them, you'd be pretty naïve to think he's paying that out of his own pocket, and not funded by the revenue from the channel.
All of this is purely educational. I enjoy it. Just think how money is spent on these experiments that we don't have to spend. Great job Project Farm!!! Thank You!!
It works...... Add water and sugar. 1/2 gallon of water and 1/2 cup sugar shake and dump in tank (any tank car, truck etc) give it 3 to 4 days and you'll be shopping for another car! 100%
@@winteriscoming90 that is what I say nobody adds any water to the sugar before putting it in the gas most vehicles ATVs have water in the gas already and when mixing that with sugar makes a hell of a mess. I am trying to get life back into at this time.
@@ProjectFarm its awesome what you do. Absolutely LOVE the no sponsors to keep reviews un-biased. Ive learned a lot watching your experiments and I subscribed. Will continue to watch your videos.
I had a mental image of somebody pushing a power mower around the yard after the engine failed. "This thing doesn't cut grass very well!" Customer returning a chain saw to the store: "You told me this saw would cut three cords of wood a day. I can barely cut one cord a day." Salesman: "Let's check it out." [Starts chain saw] Customer: "What's that noise?"
Thanks again for the great work. I had an experience with sugar being put in the gas tank. The result was totally different from yours. The sugar hardened in the carburetor, blocking all the ports, jets and valves. I tried rebuilding it, but after removing the sugar build-up, the metal parts were so severely corroded and pitted that much was not salvageable. I bought a junkyard carburetor and built a good one from the best of each. Then I drained and flushed the fuel system and installed a new filter.
Are you sure it was sugar? The corrosion would suggest it was salt. My experience with sugar in the tank was I bought a ‘95 Kawasaki Ninja motorcycle. Years later I found what I assumed was sugar pact into the recesses of the tank. Never seemed to cause a problem. Tried to chisel it out but ended up leaving most of it there.
I was always told that sugar doesn't dissolve in gas because of the chemical compound make up. Only plugs the filter. Never tried it or had any put in my gas tank that I know of.
Wow peeing i a gas tank is actually quite interesting. My little cousin did it it would run i emptied tank and bowl then ran from bottle of fuel for a while then it ran.
It works...... Add water and sugar. 1/2 gallon of water and 1/2 cup sugar shake and dump in tank (any tank car, truck etc) give it 3 to 4 days and you'll be shopping for another car! 100%
He wasn't using alcohol, he was using straight hydrocarbon fuel (non polar). And alcohols polarity is variable. Lower carbon numbers in its chain and it becomes more polar, eg methanol. Longer the carbon chain, the more non polar it becomes.
@@bignoseharry6561 It's because the video is a couple of years old, and most people only view new videos. Also, comments can be put in order of how many thumbs up they have, so new ones get buried below the old ones. Anyway, thanks :-)
some-one put alot of sugar in my 1963 ford truck. and it glued my intake valves shut, to where it bent my push rods when I tried starting it the next morning, after I replaced them, then I threw a rod not long after that, the piston had mysteriously shattered and and put a hole in my block below the water jacket, leaving the rod cap on the crank and leaving me good oil pressure, and no coolant leaks so I drove it the 200 miles home, it shook like a paint shaker, and bolts fell out everywhere, and had to be push started the last leg of the journey when the starter fell off and got broke, I welded the hole up in the block and replaced the rod and piston, using the old bearings, and drove it another 10 years before replacing the engine at 508,000 miles, and yes its a big piece of crap, and I still drive it, and its my 1st ford and Ive owned it for 34 years and put 400,000 miles on it myself and only had to tow it home once
Years ago I came into possession of a 1973 Buick Regal with a 350 V8 that had under 100K on it. When I received it I know for a fact that it had had a 1/2 pound of sugar put into the gas tank 6 months earlier, with approx 30K miles on it since the sugar. The PO had told me that Within a month or two the carb had to be rebuilt. It ran fine when I got it, I even used it to tow my boat back and forth to the Colorado River. Then on my 3rd trip towing the boat, the car started losing power and running really bad. Wouldn't hardly idle and was making a lot of valve train noise. After getting it home I pulled off the intake manifold and found 3 or 4 bent push rods and either stuck or collapsed hydraulic lifters, about 1/2 of them were toast. Replaced the bent rods and put all new lifters in it, put it back together and drove it for another 3 or 4 years without any more problems. Then the person I sold it to drove it another couple of yrs. I have very little doubt that the sugar was the cause of both the carb and the lifters going bad. Not the catastrophic failure that I had always been told would happen, but had I not done all the work myself, it would have surely sent the car to the junkyard. Any way, it was great to see this put to the test, Thanks for all the great videos PF!
If it had bent push rods,and bad lifters,then they put something in the OIL,not the gas,since the fuel should not come into contact with the lifters/pushrods. at all.
My family owned a foreign car dealership, in a town of about 50K people. There were no other shops in town which repaired foreign cars. I recall a 1959 Jaguar XK-150, which was at the high end of the price range of street/highway use sports cars. Someone had put about a 5lb. sack of table sugar in the gas tank. The Jaguar engine, which was a double overhead camshaft type, had what we called "swallowed a valve." This means that one of the intake valves failed to return to its upward position, resulting in a piston striking the stuck valve. This destroyed the piston and valve, and severely scarred the cylinder walls, requiring a total engine rebuild. This cost about $1250 (1960 dollars). The gas tank, dual carburetors, and fuel pump and fuel lines had to be totally cleaned out. The tank, when removed, still had about 3/4 of the original sugar. The car was driven less than 50 mi. after the sugar was put in the tank. This shows the damage which can be done by sugar in the fuel.
This is mind blowing! My entire childhood I was told that a spoon full of sugar would seize an engine. After this test I'd guess you'd need a kilogram of sugar, and that would only likely clog a fuel filter...
Ben - as a child I was told "a spoon full of sugar would help the medicine go down, the medicine go down, the medicine go down". After decades and handfuls of Quaaludes, Valium and Oxy, I really don't think it made a difference. They go down just fine. Just sayin'.
When I was young, my father had to have an expensive servicing done of a 1966 Mercury (410 V8) fuel system after someone dumped what appeared to be two or three cups of sugar into the tank. The reputation of damage being done to a vehicle by sugar dumped into a tank (in sufficient volume) is true.
@knight flyer I genuinely don't believe you because I've seen it done to people before and nothing happen. The whole fuel filter thing makes the sugar approach pointless. If there was no filter, at most, you'd get a lot of caramel that would eventually just cook off. Worst case, they'd have to flush the system. If your story actually happened, though, I wouldn't be surprised if your buddy got scammed into covering a fix for something else that was already wrong with it.
Years ago, I was a mechanic at a Pontiac dealership, and a customer had her GTA towed in for a no run situation, this car had been to 3 other shops, without being fixed! While I was an apprentice, and the senior technician was baffled, we decided to cut open the fuel filter... completely clogged with sugar, fuel regulator, injectors & catalytic converters all shot!the engine it self would have safe, except for the buck shot dropped into the throttle body.long story short her ex boyfriend had a rather expensive bill to settle, and time to serve!
I had somebody sugar my gas tank many years ago. They must have dumped a 1 pound bag in there. Like here, the sugar never really broke down and remained at the bottom of the tank. It did make it into the electric fuel pump and it ruined it. The only way I found out was when the vehicle started losing power. I had to drop the tank and vacuum out what was left. New fuel pump and filter and the engine is still running fine today.
It lost power cause the filters and gas lines get packed, not from engine damage. My ex did my diesel suburban and Ford escort. Later she learned to put it in the crank case and I lost about 4 motors before I figured out what the fuck was going on. If you divorce your wife, move far away or hire a 'problem solver'!
I've lost count the amount of times I've accidentally poured sugar, salt and flour into my fuel tank whilst filling at the gas station. So this is good to know
Sugar doesn’t seem to dissolve in gasoline very well but I wonder if you added sugar to the oil in the crankcase of that with gum things up right and proper
Adding any kind of crap to the crankcase would cause very expensive damage. However, you have no way of getting somebody’s hood open without first obtaining access to the passenger cabin and the hood release lever, whereas even some modern vehicles don’t have locking gas hatches.
A friend of mine runs used vegetable oil he collects from restaurants in his diesel car; when he goes by there's always the smell of french fries!! Yum yum!
Man I just got to say......Ive watched several of your videos and I got to say that lawnmower has been through hell and back lol......love your videos sir keepum coming.
I just thought of something I'd love to see you test out. It's Hydrogen Peroxide, the strongest strength you can find. Since H2O2 has twice as much oxygen as regular water, perhaps it can help the combustion and clean out the carbon deposits better ... who knows?
Every time I watch a video of your I imagine the camera panning to the side and revealing a fleet of push mowers being ready to be sacrificed in the name of science.
I would definitely clean out tank, I would be more worried about sugar possibly bending a valve. I like your straight forward approach, and you can really teach some of us how things actually work.
As a kid, I was among a group of students stranded 50 miles from home when the bus in which we were riding stalled and would not re-start. Sugar had been added to the tank. It may have been a diesel bus,however. We had to wait until another bus and driver could reach the scene of the breakdown. I always wondered about this as chemically sugar is not very soluble in petroleum solvents.
This reminds me of back in the day when ppl used to say that cracking a raw egg on a car would ruin its paint job; I wonder if that's true? I subscribed a couple of days ago, and began watching your videos [oldest to newest]. I appreciate what you're doing, that you've ended up being a blessing to so many ppl, and that you're being blessed for it in the long run.
My utility trailer got egged at Halloween a few years ago and I didn't get around to cleaning it for a few days. When I did the paint came off. It has a bare streak down one side now.
dufftruck6, Seems like a good test. I was thinking about using a product specifically marketed for compression improvement, such as Lucas or Dura Lube. What do you think?
yea the lucas would be a great idea because i have a old diesel truck which has lost most of its power over the year and I'm sure its just from blow by and valves not setting properly
I've already tested Lucas Upper Cylinder lubricant for how it effects MPG, but I haven't tested it's effect on combustion pressure. The trouble is, I like it so much, I don't want to go without it. :)
I didn't test the compression ratio in mine - but about a capful amount added to the fuel as well as a capful to the engine oil seemed to help it quite a bit. The engine runs very smoothly and it starts immediately on the first pull even after being in cold temperatures for weeks. While it doesn't cure all things it does add to engine performance (probably engine life, too), which is why I'm a fan of it.
The old VW air cooled carbureted Bugs didn't come equipped with a fuel filter. We had a Bug towed into our shop on day, that had a frozen engine. The first assumption was that a main bearing had spun and locked up the crankshaft. Turned out to be sugar in the gasoline. The acceleration pump actually had particles of sugar at the nozzle. The pistons were seized to the cylinders because the carbon of burnt sugar had taken up all of the space between the pistons and cylinder walls. I tasted the carbon with my tongue. It had an obvious sweet taste. It's the only example I've seen of a sugared engine.
I have no idea what additives might remove the sugar buildup. How about, in your own immortal words, “Let’s find out!” Your videos are by far my favorites! Thanks, Todd!
Wow! Like you I'd heard the same thing Re: Sugar in the gas tank. I couldn't believe you were going to run the mower with sugar & Gas! That was VERY interesting. Thank you for the upload. I'm subscribed. 😀
How about running straight e85 through the mower and seeing if the carbon build up is worse? Also see what it would do to the carb. We always hear about how bad ethanol is for smaller engines I think this would be a great test.
That's interesting. I've been hearing sugar will destroy an engine since I was a kid. Have you tried using a simple syrup (3:1 ratio of sugar disolved in hot water)?
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Yes, simple syrup plus emulsifier to bind it to the gasoline or diesel and the engine is screwed. Granulated does nothing but cause sludging problems.
Having just bought my first car, Ive been going through these old videos and taking notes on what tools would be best to have in my trunk for when things go wrong
Let the engine set over night, the sugar will harden, maybe then the piston rings will stick to the cylinder wall also causing the valves to stick seizing the engine.
Interesting. I always thought it was just to make a huge, time consuming (and therefore expensive, for most ppl) mess. The idea being for the sugar to foul and eventually block filters and jets/fuel injectors.
My experience is the LONGER the sugar is in the SYSTEM the more build up and CLOGGING in fuel lines and oil passages. Your short duration test will not show this. Don't even think about putting sugar into a fuel injection system as injectors do not tolerate any form of buildup!
I'm curious to know what would happen if you added some water to the fuel tank (to dissolve the sugar) and also mixed in some ethanol (to absorb the water and make it miscible in the fuel). Obviously you'd need to use only small quanitites of water and ethanol in the gas othewise the engine probably wouldn't run. Unless I'm mistaken, without the addition of ethanol, the water would sink to the bottom of the fuel tank and wouldn't mix with the gas. But then the sugar is in the bottom of the tank too!
That should create an emulsion of fuels, water and sugar. The worst part, I'm guessing, is the clog potential of expensive shit to replace. Caramel in the combustion chamber might be a bad thing also.
Another brilliant video - every guy who's lived in the past 130 years has wanted to see this. Thanks. I was curious where sugar crystals were on the Moh's hardness scale. One 'source' said "Hardness according to Vickers for sucrose crystals is equal to 755 MPa (Bubnik et al., 1997)." [I don' t know what this means]. I remember reading that the Desert Rats during WWII in North Africa - if they couldn't blow up or burn an enemy vehicle they put.... and I remembered 'sand'. They put sand in the gas tanks. I don't want to ask the question because your lawnmower sitting in your garage looked so unsuspecting and innocent.
Aw yes, put nerve poison into any system what ever organic or mechanical in nature sounds like excellent idea... Well least its cheap ant killer chemical.
Some years ago I read an Army field manual that was printed in the 1950s or 60s that had to do with sabotaging equipment behind enemy lines. There was a chapter devoted to adding things like sugar, acids, etc, to the fuel tanks and then running the engines for several hours and see what kind of damage was done. The tests were done in a laboratory and well documented. At the conclusion of the tests it turned out that it was either Linseed or Tung oil (I can’t remember which) were most effective and did the most damage. This was because they were very soluble in gas or diesel fuel so traveled easily through the entire fuel system to the combustion chamber where it would gum up the rings something fierce. What happened after the engines were allowed to cool to ambient temperature is they were locked up solid and required a complete overhaul to get them unstuck.
It probably wouldn't matter much which of those you used. They are both drying oils and should cause equivalent damage, maybe over slightly different amounts of time.
Thanks! Worked on a Citroen with linseed oil, intentionally added by the owner who thought the oil companies conspired against owners with an inferior product that needed his linseed additive help! Don't know how much he used, but had been doing it for quite a while and it was a real mess, gummy sludgy filter.
My dad has a 73 Mustang Mach 1. When I was little, he drove us to the county fair in it, and while we were driving back home the engine stalled on the freeway. When he got to working on it, he said he saw sugar granules made it all the way up to the carburetor. He also siphoned out the gas and a load of sugar came out. He ended up replacing the entire fuel tank, lines, and cleaned the carb. Not really sure what compelled a person to do that to such a nice car. Sugar can definitely do some damage.
Yes it will i have worked on 2 cars in my 28 yrs of fixing vehicles and they both had sugar in the tank and it seized the valves in the guides and broke the timing chain both was chevy 4cly engines when i removed the head it looked like caramel and hot water dissolved the mess but carb cleaner or break cleaner wouldnt touch it
In the old days most engines used a settling bulb instead of a fuel filter. Sugar is light enough that it often doesn't settle out like sand and grit does and can get carried up into the carburetor. What happens from there depends on the engine, ranging from significant carbon buildup like you saw to plugging up the carburetor jets, or gumming up the valves. Seizing the engine is a bit of an exaggeration, but it's definitely not good for it and depending on what gets blocked up it can take quite a bit of effort to get it cleaned out again.
Sugar in a car will not necessarily damage the internal parts of the engine. It can damage it if for some reason the things it will destroy first keep functioning. To start depends on the year of car. A car from say the 80s or older having a carburetor not a throttle body will start to gum up causing the car to backfire and (I know from experience) will start on fire. Flanges will stop opening and can bend the needles inside carb. Fuel filters and lines will clog up plus electric or mechanical fuel pumps will malfunction. That's is the difference between a automobile and the lawn mower. A lawnmower has a gravity feed gas system leaving majority of the sugar laying in the tank and a carburetor that is set to run at one constant feed. A car has a fuel pump that pulls or sucks the gas up off from the bottom of tank sucking the sugar into the system, sugar is flammable that can cause the carb catching fire after backfiring. A fuel injectoin system will clog injector rails and the fuel purge valve causing car not to run. Usual replacement of the whole fuel lines and filters carbs or injectors and rail are required to fix. An that can be EXPENSIVE.
Adding to the fuel injected engines, I once worked on a vehicle that had paint thinner and sugar put in the fuel tank. The paint thinner caused a further breakdown of the sugar, leading it to further bypass the fuel filter and injectors. By the time I got the vehicle, it did not run, the fuel filter was stopped up, and the injectors were coated with crystallized sugar. The owner of the vehicle opted to replace the entire fuel system. From the fuel tank, pump, filter, lines, and injectors. And, even requested to remove the cylinder head to check for damage or build up on the valves and pistons. Very expensive, but the culprit was found to be an upset ex significant other, and was required to pay for the damages.
@@instantdethmouse I'm dealing with the same problem with an '03 3.8L V6 Mustang Convertible and yes the girls got the top too. And tires as well. Her step father was the Chief of Police in Rutledge, TN so NOTHING was done about it.
In early days, sugar was added to a gas tank as a spiteful way of disabling a car. Sugar does not disolve in petrol so would stay granular and you would need to add a lot of sugar in the hope that a few grains would get picked up and block the carburettor jets or fuel injectors. It is a complete myth though as the fuel filter would stop the sugar before it could cause any blockage but eventually, the filter would clog but it would take a very long time.
a main issue with car engine's is actually all that build up getting all over the sensors and possibly frying the computer from all the weird reading's and a massive rush of codes overloading it
I didn't notice which video was made first, yours or Chris Fix, both are excellent videos, excellent job raising this question. Appreciate both videos!
I have classic car, the first thing I bought for the car, a locking gas cap, my son said dad no one is going to steal your gas, I said I'm not worried about someone stealing my gas, I'm worried about someone putting something in my gas
GALLIUM!!! GALLIUM!!! GALLIUM!!! May I suggest you take an old mower with aluminum block or head...add gallium to a clean warm scuffed up spot...keeping the block warm overnight and see how / if it will catastrophically fail? 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥
Dude, just think for a second. The question isn't "if it will fail" IT WILL FAIL. Gallium will eat at any aluminium alloy. You can put a single drop on top of the closed cylinder head and it WILL destroy the engine.
I'm suspect something similar may have happened to a vehicle I own. What I found in the injectors after pulling the rails and them out with something I've never seen before and I can only imagine would be sugar.. why am on UA-cam right now looking for sugar videos inside injectors / motors. I'm a big fan of B12. I would like to see you add the B12 to see if it intensifies or cleans the problem. Thank you for your time and greatly enjoy the content.
Addictive_LiquoriCe If fuel have some condensed water, sugar might dissolve to that. Fuel filters should stop at least most of that mixture, but old engines without filters might be vulnerable.
You should of put the cup of sugar directly in the tank without mixing it like it would be in real life and see if more sugar would get sucked up from the bottom of the tank. Great content!! Hope you see this comment off this old video.
Well your wrong, someone just put half a bag in my full tank of gas. one Fuel Pump, 2 Fuel Filters, 1 O2 sensor, a 50 mile tow ticket later it still is not running like it was.. or at all really.
Someone dumped a substance (I think beer) in the gas tank of my motorcycle when I was in Fargo, ND. What this caused was the throttle slides to seize up (it had 2 carbs) until I eventually got all the beer out of the tank.
CHLOROX in the fuel tank causes major problems any steel object will start to rust immediately areal problem for injectors and cylinder walls also any rubber type of gasket or O ring turns to jelly A real problem for gas or Diesel engines I know from experience 😂
I suspect the better additives will work well, I'll keep an eye out for the video when you get enough suggestions. ACCORDING Delco puts out a good cleaner but it is pricey.
Kevin Milton I was actually told that by a coworker the other day. that is actually what prompted me to watch this vid. I also would love to see a bleach test
I was told that sugar only clogs the fuel filter. Some saboteurs have suggested ''Karo'' brand liquid sugar, but I'm not sure if it is still on shelves of stores anymore.
In his video he showed that pouring sugar into the gas tank won’t actually do much to the engine since sugar doesn’t dissolve into gas and any fuel filter should be able to filter those big ass granules of sugar
If sugar made it to the engine it would stop the piston due to a really large knock followed by a warped piston head at least . So God bless the filter lol
Don't worry about that. Mythbusters tried it (mythresults.com/episode15) and reported "The engine ran even better than without the sugar." I stopped using locking gas caps when one got a death grip on the fuel neck. I had a devil of a time getting it off.
@@josephbragg5445 But if they break the lock on the gas cap at least it alerts you that something is up so you can drain the gas before it does more damage.
@@paradigmfl cant disagree with that if u buy one get a metal one if possible ,plastic caps pop right off and metal holds up better im sure they cost more as if the plastic ones are not enough,they may not make metal ones anymore I havent seen a metal one since the 70s good luck.
Joseph, This makes sense since it is already dissolved and should make it past the fuel filter. Seems like a great test! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
+theomnipresent1 if it's a carburetor motor engine it will more than likely seized motor if it's a fuel injected motor it'll more than likely clogged fuel injection and possibly seize the motor
Sugar can really screw up a carb. (Remember when cars had them?) Seems a fellow-employee thug dosed my gas tank with sugar. Dunno just when. Day or more later, vehicle slowly died enroute work, major problem doing "Mexican rebuild" on roadside later, in snow. Heavy dosing with carb cleaner got the passages cleaned out. Bottom line: seems that sugar in solution/suspension precipitates out in a carburetor. Locking gas cap a +++. :')
The best thing u can do is go buy a couple fitlers an feel your tank fool with gas. Plus any small sediment in the gas can do the same as sugar. But sugar in do time can actually cause the gas to turn into a jelly looking paste.
The filter is after the pump. The pump is in the tank and has no filter as it uses the fuel for lubrication so a clogged filter would destroy it faster than any dirt it sucks up
Christopher Bredel: There is actually a primary filter to prevent larger particles that can damage an in tank fuel filter from getting to it. This is a fine screen which under normal circumstances will not clog as the solid material it prevents from getting sucked in will drop off it when the vehicle's motor is turned off.
My dad had a 4 cylinder engine block in our machine shedd back in the seventies. He had told me it was seized from having been sugared. He had gotten it where he worked from a car repair. He had some plans for it but nothing was done with it.
Todd - butanol is both an organic sugar solvent and also is being marketed as "bio-gasoline", compatible with gas engines. If I understand the chemistry, you could do a demo with quite a bit of sugar in an engine and then "rescue" it with a tank or two of butanol. Some scammy company will probably eventually market a pint of it as "Sugar Rescue" for $7.99 at Wally World. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanol
Obama's billion dollar boondoggle 'Cash for Clunkers' had an entire protocol for destroying the engines. The oil was drained out and sodium silicate was put in as replacement then the engines were ran to seizure, I believe coolant was drained as well. Tragically ended the life of a lot of slant 6's that would otherwise still be running.
I ran a motorcycle repair shop for many years and came across sugar in tanks several times. Symptoms were that the bike would start fine, but as the contaminated fuel reached the carb the performance would fall off, perhaps by about 50% and then if the engine was stopped it would refuse to restart. Full fuel change always seemed to put things back to normal.
You should delete his comment. It will give the wrong people advice on how to destroy an engine. I'm a LEO and know this will cause permeate damage, have investigated this type of tampering w/ an automobile.
Anyone who wants to know how to sabotage a vehicle can easily figure it out elsewhere, this is the internet, after all. "Delete his comment", Joseph, were you being serious? Might as well censor every other thing on the internet too, I mean screw freedom of speach, right? An LEO, I doubt it... Silly fella.
The old Volkswagen air cooled Bugs weren't equipped with a fuel filter. We had a customer come into our shop with an engine which lacked power. It took full throttle just to keep the engine running. We noted that there was sugar particles coming out of the acceleration pump nozzle. Somebody had somehow put sugar into his gas tank. While taking the cylinders off we noticed that the cylinders had to be forced off the pistons. There was a blackened coating on the cylinder walls which resulted in no oil clearance between the piston skirts and the cylinder walls. We even tasted that black coating and it had a sweetness to it. So yes, if you have a carburetor engine without a fuel filter installed, it will cook the sugar onto the cylinder walls until there is no oil clearance.
Thanks to everyone who requested this video. Highly recommend checking out Chis Fix' video on removing sugar from a fuel system. ua-cam.com/video/tRM-n15tuXs/v-deo.html
Funny you made this comment 3 weeks ago and made the video 3 years ago nice
Heh.
I heard javex in the tank will kill the engine? That would be a good video
Don't try it on your car, it might damage your feul injection system.
Use a soft drink like Coca-Cola the sugar is already a liquid
It's 1 AM and i'm watching a guy put sugar in the fuel of a lawnmower . wtf am i doing with my life
Lawnmower*
Talidas, LOL! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Project Farm hahahaha, hope you didn't take the eariler comment as an insult but i finished the video and i was like wtf am i doing, how did i get gere 😂😂
K2 Hbu 😂😂true
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Adding salt to engine oil breaks down it's lubricating properties.
Not tried it yet, neighbours keep their car locked.
J.
Average Joe, This makes sense. Salt is very corrosive! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Average Joe lmao. too funny!!!
i do have a spare lawn mower engine i dont really want to spend 18 bucks for a starter clutch to try it out
(socket, drill=electric starter)
I would experiment, I only have vague memories of a conversation with a Petchem engineer twenty five odd years ago, He'd had problems with locals where he worked in Saudi dropping salt in fuel tanks.
I have some kero here, will see if that dissolves salt.
Cheers, J.
I have been a professional automotive technician for 26 years (Chrysler master Tech and Ford Senior Master Tech), and now for the past 5 years I have been an automotive instructor. I have seen many, many examples of sugar sabotage. I have seen the same thing happen every time on cars that are fuel injected ( most everything has been fuel injected for the past 30-35 years). Here is what I have seen: Most of the sugar stays in the tank, with a small amount migrating past the fuel pump, and whatever filtration there may be on the car. (Most cars do not have a replaceable fuel filter anymore). The small amount of sugar that gets to the fuel injectors stops there in the injectors. For whatever reason, whether its temperature change, size of pintle passages, flow and pooling of fuel at that point, the sugar seems to stop right there in the injectors. This ruins the injectors. They will stop working due to the pintles freezing up inside the injectors and nozzle stoppage. This causes, either a no start, or a misfire if there are some injectors still working. What we have done to repair this in the dealerships that I have worked in was, replace all injectors, replace fuel pressure regulator if equipped, drop tank and clean thoroughly, replace fuel pump, replace filter if equipped, and thoroughly flush fuel rails and all lines. Put new gas in and test drive. Some insurance companies also want the engine oil changed, though this doesn't seem to have any real connection to sugar in gas, its just their policy. These steps have always fixed this issue. These cars come back in for regular services with no long term issues noted by us, or the customer.
Well done Darren
darren beanard
That's why I said sugar will make a fuel injected engine develop Type-2 Diabetes. Too much sugar in the system.
good information Darren
darren beanard
darren beanard someone put sugar in my gas tank and I took it to the dealership. They have almost a month fixing it and they changed the fuel tank the fuel pumps and idk what else but the car still does not work. They flushed out the system but nothing. Now they're saying that they either need to get into the engine or just get a new engine. What do you think?is it bullshit about needing a new engine?
Wow, this was one of those things I absolutely believed without question: both that sugar in a gas engine, and pissing in a gas engine were sure ways to destroy them. so if I ever intended to stop someone's car with sugar, I'd be VERY disappointed had I not seen this video. Thank you for posting!
Urine would almost certainly cause catastrophic and immediate engine damage, as would any significant volume of other aqueous solutions (or water itself).
@@iops94 Thank you, it's good to know at least ONE of my beliefs in this regard wasn't total BS. ;-)
I wanted to give a quick commendation. I saw you are now showing the before and after results side by side like I had suggested in a previous video! It's so cool to see someone car enough about his viewers' thoughts to actually give them a try. Thank you!!
Brandon, A big "thank you" to you for this recommendation! This greatly improved the ability of viewers to compare before and after results! Thanks again for the recommendation and for commenting!
Of course! You've earned yourself at least one more subscriber!
Brandon, Thank you very much for subscribing!
And then he sold the mower on Craigs List
Funny!
Bwahahahaha I think I bought that mower !!!! Haha
Slightly used never abused lawnmower cuts fine
LMFAO couldn't have.......He still has all his teeth.......
It looks like a pair of testicles in the video at six minutes and 14 seconds. WEIRD.
Sugar will make the engine run sweeter.
lol!
Hehehe
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good 1
For a couple of yards lol
SWEEEEEEET
This guy could have literally made thousands of dollars off these videos but he doesn’t monetize them. I think it’s because it’s not about the money. He values the the community more. Thanks. And I would use the b12 additive😂
You are welcome!
? Theres 2 ads at the start how is it not monatized
@@Raoul-Duke604 Yeah, micahr appears to be a little uninformed about how YT works. Project Farm earns enough to make this a viable business.
@@mikenco UA-cam pays professional UA-camrs about $5.00 per 1000 ad views (says Google). So he had 2.6 million views and 2 commercials at the beginning.
Do the math. I could be wrong, if I am please correct me. I hate disinformation...
@@SeasparrowDD979 Agree! The person who said Project Farm doesn't make money is completely clueless. When he buys 15 identical socket extensions, then destroys them, you'd be pretty naïve to think he's paying that out of his own pocket, and not funded by the revenue from the channel.
All of this is purely educational. I enjoy it. Just think how money is spent on these experiments that we don't have to spend. Great job Project Farm!!! Thank You!!
It works...... Add water and sugar. 1/2 gallon of water and 1/2 cup sugar shake and dump in tank (any tank car, truck etc) give it 3 to 4 days and you'll be shopping for another car! 100%
@@winteriscoming90 that is what I say nobody adds any water to the sugar before putting it in the gas most vehicles ATVs have water in the gas already and when mixing that with sugar makes a hell of a mess. I am trying to get life back into at this time.
I tried this and my car became diabetic. It now needs insulin injections every week.
Be careful it doesn't clog your insulin injectors.
You should’ve used Splenda instead of sugar.
That would be high fructose corn syrup . #1 cause of diabetes in the world .
If your car dies while driving and wont start its probably in a diabetic coma.
Haha!
Can we get a moment of silence for all the brave patriotic mowers that have given thier lives for science? God speed push mowers 😊😁
lol. Thank you
@@ProjectFarm its awesome what you do. Absolutely LOVE the no sponsors to keep reviews un-biased. Ive learned a lot watching your experiments and I subscribed. Will continue to watch your videos.
I get distracted with other content and have a limitation on my data but when I get to watch a vid from the Farm it's always good 👍
I wonder how many lawnmowers have died on project farm?
I had a mental image of somebody pushing a power mower around the yard after the engine failed. "This thing doesn't cut grass very well!"
Customer returning a chain saw to the store: "You told me this saw would cut three cords of wood a day. I can barely cut one cord a day."
Salesman: "Let's check it out." [Starts chain saw]
Customer: "What's that noise?"
Thanks again for the great work. I had an experience with sugar being put in the gas tank. The result was totally different from yours. The sugar hardened in the carburetor, blocking all the ports, jets and valves. I tried rebuilding it, but after removing the sugar build-up, the metal parts were so severely corroded and pitted that much was not salvageable. I bought a junkyard carburetor and built a good one from the best of each. Then I drained and flushed the fuel system and installed a new filter.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Are you sure it was sugar? The corrosion would suggest it was salt.
My experience with sugar in the tank was I bought a ‘95 Kawasaki Ninja motorcycle. Years later I found what I assumed was sugar pact into the recesses of the tank. Never seemed to cause a problem. Tried to chisel it out but ended up leaving most of it there.
@@MrSleepProductionsInc No sir, I'm not sure. It never occurred to me that it may be something other than sugar. I just assumed.
I was always told that sugar doesn't dissolve in gas because of the chemical compound make up. Only plugs the filter. Never tried it or had any put in my gas tank that I know of.
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you are right as i encountered the same. sugar turned to syrup in the tank, clogging injectors and fuel filter
The additive I'd use would be a Louisville Slugger on the pos that put sugar in my tank.
That'd treat the cause for sure. Thanks for commenting!
How about for peeing in your gas tank?
Clown Shoes MMA yeah then he comes back and puts 8 in ur face
Wow peeing i a gas tank is actually quite interesting. My little cousin did it it would run i emptied tank and bowl then ran from bottle of fuel for a while then it ran.
I've heard this since I was a kid and always wondered if it was true. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It works...... Add water and sugar. 1/2 gallon of water and 1/2 cup sugar shake and dump in tank (any tank car, truck etc) give it 3 to 4 days and you'll be shopping for another car! 100%
@@winteriscoming90 the engine won’t catch fire or anything, right?
Sucrose is a polar molecule, meaning it's insoluble in non-polar solvents like gasoline.
I am glad someone's noted this.
cone conington yes, but using an alcohol, which has an non polar and polar emd, will allow it to dissolve
He wasn't using alcohol, he was using straight hydrocarbon fuel (non polar).
And alcohols polarity is variable. Lower carbon numbers in its chain and it becomes more polar, eg methanol.
Longer the carbon chain, the more non polar it becomes.
+cone conington He's in America. Our 'regular' gasoline contains 10% ethanol in most places around the country.
Ethanol is not in dry gas.
I always learn and feel more comfortable with the items I buy when I see you videos about them... keep it up I'm sure I'm not the only one
Thanks for sharing.
"What additive do you suggest if sugar has been added to your fuel tank?" How about coffee? LOL
Only 5, thumbs, hey, ?
That was funny.
@@bignoseharry6561 It's because the video is a couple of years old, and most people only view new videos. Also, comments can be put in order of how many thumbs up they have, so new ones get buried below the old ones.
Anyway, thanks :-)
And cream.
spiritus - alcohol
Milk and hot water with my sugar please
some-one put alot of sugar in my 1963 ford truck. and it glued my intake valves shut, to where it bent my push rods when I tried starting it the next morning, after I replaced them, then I threw a rod not long after that, the piston had mysteriously shattered and and put a hole in my block below the water jacket, leaving the rod cap on the crank and leaving me good oil pressure, and no coolant leaks so I drove it the 200 miles home, it shook like a paint shaker, and bolts fell out everywhere, and had to be push started the last leg of the journey when the starter fell off and got broke, I welded the hole up in the block and replaced the rod and piston, using the old bearings, and drove it another 10 years before replacing the engine at 508,000 miles, and yes its a big piece of crap, and I still drive it, and its my 1st ford and Ive owned it for 34 years and put 400,000 miles on it myself and only had to tow it home once
Thanks for sharing that story.
Years ago I came into possession of a 1973 Buick Regal with a 350 V8 that had under 100K on it. When I received it I know for a fact that it had had a 1/2 pound of sugar put into the gas tank 6 months earlier, with approx 30K miles on it since the sugar. The PO had told me that Within a month or two the carb had to be rebuilt. It ran fine when I got it, I even used it to tow my boat back and forth to the Colorado River. Then on my 3rd trip towing the boat, the car started losing power and running really bad. Wouldn't hardly idle and was making a lot of valve train noise. After getting it home I pulled off the intake manifold and found 3 or 4 bent push rods and either stuck or collapsed hydraulic lifters, about 1/2 of them were toast. Replaced the bent rods and put all new lifters in it, put it back together and drove it for another 3 or 4 years without any more problems. Then the person I sold it to drove it another couple of yrs.
I have very little doubt that the sugar was the cause of both the carb and the lifters going bad. Not the catastrophic failure that I had always been told would happen, but had I not done all the work myself, it would have surely sent the car to the junkyard.
Any way, it was great to see this put to the test, Thanks for all the great videos PF!
Billy, thank you for sharing your experience with sugar contamination. Also, thank you for the positive comment!
PO?
Sorry, PO= Previous owner
If it had bent push rods,and bad lifters,then they put something in the OIL,not the gas,since the fuel should not come into contact with the lifters/pushrods. at all.
Or, maybe some bent pushrods and collapsed lifters weren't that uncommon in a 70's-era GM 350 that had been towing a boat.
My family owned a foreign car dealership, in a town of about 50K people. There were no other shops in town which repaired foreign cars. I recall a 1959 Jaguar XK-150, which was at the high end of the price range of street/highway use sports cars. Someone had put about a 5lb. sack of table sugar in the gas tank. The Jaguar engine, which was a double overhead camshaft type, had what we called "swallowed a valve." This means that one of the intake valves failed to return to its upward position, resulting in a piston striking the stuck valve. This destroyed the piston and valve, and severely scarred the cylinder walls, requiring a total engine rebuild. This cost about $1250 (1960 dollars). The gas tank, dual carburetors, and fuel pump and fuel lines had to be totally cleaned out. The tank, when removed, still had about 3/4 of the original sugar. The car was driven less than 50 mi. after the sugar was put in the tank. This shows the damage which can be done by sugar in the fuel.
This is mind blowing!
My entire childhood I was told that a spoon full of sugar would seize an engine. After this test I'd guess you'd need a kilogram of sugar, and that would only likely clog a fuel filter...
I thought the same thing as you. Thanks for commenting!
Ben - as a child I was told "a spoon full of sugar would help the medicine go down, the medicine go down, the medicine go down". After decades and handfuls of Quaaludes, Valium and Oxy, I really don't think it made a difference. They go down just fine. Just sayin'.
Just dump the whole bag in that'll cease it.
DONT LET IT FOOL YOU CARS ENGINE IS REFERENT
When I was young, my father had to have an expensive servicing done of a 1966 Mercury (410 V8) fuel system after someone dumped what appeared to be two or three cups of sugar into the tank. The reputation of damage being done to a vehicle by sugar dumped into a tank (in sufficient volume) is true.
I have heard the sugar in the gas tank story since the early 60s. I was a kid so I took it as gospel.
knight flyer. Who snitched ?
knight flyer nice
Me, too.
@knight flyer I genuinely don't believe you because I've seen it done to people before and nothing happen.
The whole fuel filter thing makes the sugar approach pointless. If there was no filter, at most, you'd get a lot of caramel that would eventually just cook off. Worst case, they'd have to flush the system.
If your story actually happened, though, I wouldn't be surprised if your buddy got scammed into covering a fix for something else that was already wrong with it.
Years ago, I was a mechanic at a Pontiac dealership, and a customer had her GTA towed in for a no run situation, this car had been to 3 other shops, without being fixed! While I was an apprentice, and the senior technician was baffled, we decided to cut open the fuel filter... completely clogged with sugar, fuel regulator, injectors & catalytic converters all shot!the engine it self would have safe, except for the buck shot dropped into the throttle body.long story short her ex boyfriend had a rather expensive bill to settle, and time to serve!
I had somebody sugar my gas tank many years ago. They must have dumped a 1 pound bag in there. Like here, the sugar never really broke down and remained at the bottom of the tank. It did make it into the electric fuel pump and it ruined it. The only way I found out was when the vehicle started losing power. I had to drop the tank and vacuum out what was left. New fuel pump and filter and the engine is still running fine today.
Thank you for the feedback
How long did it take you to notice the vehicle losing power?
It lost power cause the filters and gas lines get packed, not from engine damage. My ex did my diesel suburban and Ford escort. Later she learned to put it in the crank case and I lost about 4 motors before I figured out what the fuck was going on. If you divorce your wife, move far away or hire a 'problem solver'!
Same thing many years ago for me as well. It took out the fuel pump and fuel filter, but nothing else.
@@screechowl9605 I know a guy.
I've lost count the amount of times I've accidentally poured sugar, salt and flour into my fuel tank whilst filling at the gas station.
So this is good to know
Thanks for the feedback.
And don't add popcorn to the fuel tank of your plane!
@@AndrewVelonis You've just GOT to stop fueling at the bakery!
I heard a story once about a WW2 pilot who put sugar, milk and flavorings in his P-47's drop tank to make ice cream...
@@johnhanley9946 It wasn't connected to the fuel system at the time.
Sugar doesn’t seem to dissolve in gasoline very well but I wonder if you added sugar to the oil in the crankcase of that with gum things up right and proper
Thank you for the video idea!
I'm with you on that one!
Definitely sounds like it would get interesting quick.
Adding any kind of crap to the crankcase would cause very expensive damage. However, you have no way of getting somebody’s hood open without first obtaining access to the passenger cabin and the hood release lever, whereas even some modern vehicles don’t have locking gas hatches.
That’s why you wash it down with piss
It does.......Molasses is quicker though.
The plot lines of a hundred TV movies from the 70s just got rekt
lol! Thanks
Movies and tv are always Exaggerated. Especially back then. Lol
Kingpin but that wasn't a 70s movie.. Darn good movie though...
wasn't sugar just supposed to clog the fuel pump?
@@staskazzz I've always heard it ruins the engine
If someone put sugar in my fuel tank, I’d use Lead to rid myself of the problem. Not sure what I’d do for the engine though.
Hanging is more environmentally friendly.
@@fintonmainz7845 Good reason to legalize hemp, isn’t it?
Reply with bird seed husk... Sugar can be washed out of a fuel tank.. Husk never comes out... ever.
That is very funny!
"I wonder why this engine stopped. Oh look at that, the fuel tank's empty"
Ya when I saw 33 mins on the timer I thought, uh ya out of fuel?
You check them points?
That's amazing! That happened to my lawnmower too! What a coincidence!
Caramelized cylinder head. Hmmm. Too bad you weren't making crème brulee. Sea Foam should remove that.
Garcansdad, LOL! Seafoam seems like a great approach! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Only if it water based so the polarity matches.
Creme fuelee
Now we're talking...keep those automotive puns coming. That's a good one.
LOL, Gar, "caramelized" and "creme brulee"!
try it with powdered sugar. will plug up the carb big time
Not recommended, that is a recipe for spontaneous combustion and your face burnt to a crisp?
kay ger chlorine gas 😂
Whoa jesper....take a chill pill! Anger issues much?!?!
Bleach does little short term.
Try it with dynamite. Or nuclear weapons. Ya
This dudes videos are awesome, straight to the point, entertaining, educational and just really cool
Than you very much!
That thing runs "sweet"
LOL! Smells like cotton candy! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Project Farm ok that was my question i like that cotton candy smell I'm adding some sugar to my tank now.. 😁
Steve's auto, I was joking about the cotton candy smell. I could smell engine exhaust more than anything else. Thanks again!
A friend of mine runs used vegetable oil he collects from restaurants in his diesel car; when he goes by there's always the smell of french fries!! Yum yum!
Gary Bullwinkle , I use to run scents in the alcohol of my sprint cars. it was cotton candy scent and came from speedway motors.
Man I just got to say......Ive watched several of your videos and I got to say that lawnmower has been through hell and back lol......love your videos sir keepum coming.
Joshua, Yes, I've got a lot of lawnmowers all waiting for their turn for getting used in an experiment. Thanks again for commenting!
It sounds like a horror movie for lawnmowers. When you turn off the shop light at night do they quietly weep in fear?
LOL! It's a lot of fun testing additives and myths! Thanks again!
LOL! I have thought this exact thing. He's like the lawnmower murderer. You're next lawn boy! No! Not me! Cub Cadet save me!
I just thought of something I'd love to see you test out. It's Hydrogen Peroxide, the strongest strength you can find. Since H2O2 has twice as much oxygen as regular water, perhaps it can help the combustion and clean out the carbon deposits better ... who knows?
Every time I watch a video of your I imagine the camera panning to the side and revealing a fleet of push mowers being ready to be sacrificed in the name of science.
lol Thanks for watching!
😂😂😂
Did you look at the fuel filter on the mower pre and post sugar addition?
hi,60 years old.been mechanic since I was 12.that was a good video.
Dare I say....that engine's running.....*SWEET!* LOL
Mike, LOL! Sweet as cotton candy! Thanks for commenting!
I would definitely clean out tank, I would be more worried about sugar possibly bending a valve. I like your straight forward approach, and you can really teach some of us how things actually work.
Thanks!
2 PSI improvement: - definitely going to do this to my Chrysler SRT8 ! Sweet! 😁
Thank you for the feedback!
Damn. Galactic flashback... I can hear you outside running a lawnmower doing the diesel vs gas video...
As a kid, I was among a group of students stranded 50 miles from home when the bus in which we were riding stalled and would not re-start. Sugar had been added to the tank. It may have been a diesel bus,however. We had to wait until another bus and driver could reach the scene of the breakdown. I always wondered about this as chemically sugar is not very soluble in petroleum solvents.
Thanks for sharing!
This reminds me of back in the day when ppl used to say that cracking a raw egg on a car would ruin its paint job; I wonder if that's true? I subscribed a couple of days ago, and began watching your videos [oldest to newest]. I appreciate what you're doing, that you've ended up being a blessing to so many ppl, and that you're being blessed for it in the long run.
Thanks for watching and subscribing! Thanks for the video idea.
You can put raw eggs in the radiator to stop it leaking.
My utility trailer got egged at Halloween a few years ago and I didn't get around to cleaning it for a few days. When I did the paint came off. It has a bare streak down one side now.
In 1975, my 1952 Chevy was egged - original paint job. Didn't see it for a day, left permanent mark where paint faded and cracked.
Egg would damage the old lacquer paints pretty readily. Not sure if it would effect the newer paints though.
Those bolts are getting frequent traveler miles lol
Jake, LOL! Yes they are! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
I was thinking about those poor bolts every video!
would it be worth putting some marvel mystery oil in it to see how much the oil could improve the compression ratio
dufftruck6, Seems like a good test. I was thinking about using a product specifically marketed for compression improvement, such as Lucas or Dura Lube. What do you think?
yea the lucas would be a great idea because i have a old diesel truck which has lost most of its power over the year and I'm sure its just from blow by and valves not setting properly
Project Farm archoil 9100 might be interesting as well.
I've already tested Lucas Upper Cylinder lubricant for how it effects MPG, but I haven't tested it's effect on combustion pressure. The trouble is, I like it so much, I don't want to go without it. :)
I didn't test the compression ratio in mine - but about a capful amount added to the fuel as well as a capful to the engine oil seemed to help it quite a bit. The engine runs very smoothly and it starts immediately on the first pull even after being in cold temperatures for weeks. While it doesn't cure all things it does add to engine performance (probably engine life, too), which is why I'm a fan of it.
The old VW air cooled carbureted Bugs didn't come equipped with a fuel filter. We had a Bug towed into our shop on day, that had a frozen engine. The first assumption was that a main bearing had spun and locked up the crankshaft. Turned out to be sugar in the gasoline. The acceleration pump actually had particles of sugar at the nozzle. The pistons were seized to the cylinders because the carbon of burnt sugar had taken up all of the space between the pistons and cylinder walls. I tasted the carbon with my tongue. It had an obvious sweet taste. It's the only example I've seen of a sugared engine.
Doug, thanks for sharing this experience.
VW bugs do have inline fuel filters. The owner of that one removed it. They paid a high price for being a cheapskate!
Doug DaCosta hmmm so you licked the inside of the engine. 😵
@phoenixx0412 Germans make the best autos in the world, they always have and are kinda known for it.
I have no idea what additives might remove the sugar buildup. How about, in your own immortal words, “Let’s find out!” Your videos are by far my favorites! Thanks, Todd!
You are welcome!
Ethanol.... after removing the tank and filter. Then let it dry or you will dissolve the rest of the car or seize the engine anyway lol
Wow! Like you I'd heard the same thing Re: Sugar in the gas tank. I couldn't believe you were going to run the mower with sugar & Gas! That was VERY interesting. Thank you for the upload. I'm subscribed. 😀
You are welcome! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
How about running straight e85 through the mower and seeing if the carbon build up is worse? Also see what it would do to the carb. We always hear about how bad ethanol is for smaller engines I think this would be a great test.
Tyler G if you let ethonal sit for an long time (over the winter) the water separates and the ethonal turnes to gell cloging the carb.
That's interesting. I've been hearing sugar will destroy an engine since I was a kid. Have you tried using a simple syrup (3:1 ratio of sugar disolved in hot water)?
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Yes, simple syrup plus emulsifier to bind it to the gasoline or diesel and the engine is screwed. Granulated does nothing but cause sludging problems.
I saw on Thomas the train about the sugar in the tank thing when I was a kid, that's why I've always believed it. Hahaha
Yeah, I wonder if honey of maple syrup would work better. Or at least the very finely powdered sugar for cake.
How about Coca Cola?
Having just bought my first car, Ive been going through these old videos and taking notes on what tools would be best to have in my trunk for when things go wrong
Thanks for sharing! Congratulations purchasing your first car!
Let the engine set over night, the sugar will harden, maybe then the piston rings will stick to the cylinder wall also causing the valves to stick seizing the engine.
Interesting. I always thought it was just to make a huge, time consuming (and therefore expensive, for most ppl) mess.
The idea being for the sugar to foul and eventually block filters and jets/fuel injectors.
Thank you!
My experience is the LONGER the sugar is in the SYSTEM the more build up and CLOGGING in fuel lines and oil passages. Your short duration test will not show this. Don't even think about putting sugar into a fuel injection system as injectors do not tolerate any form of buildup!
I'm curious to know what would happen if you added some water to the fuel tank (to dissolve the sugar) and also mixed in some ethanol (to absorb the water and make it miscible in the fuel). Obviously you'd need to use only small quanitites of water and ethanol in the gas othewise the engine probably wouldn't run.
Unless I'm mistaken, without the addition of ethanol, the water would sink to the bottom of the fuel tank and wouldn't mix with the gas. But then the sugar is in the bottom of the tank too!
the sugar will dissolve eventually t y piece out..
That should create an emulsion of fuels, water and sugar. The worst part, I'm guessing, is the clog potential of expensive shit to replace. Caramel in the combustion chamber might be a bad thing also.
Another brilliant video - every guy who's lived in the past 130 years has wanted to see this. Thanks. I was curious where sugar crystals were on the Moh's hardness scale. One 'source' said "Hardness according to Vickers for sucrose crystals is equal to 755 MPa (Bubnik et al., 1997)." [I don' t know what this means]. I remember reading that the Desert Rats during WWII in North Africa - if they couldn't blow up or burn an enemy vehicle they put.... and I remembered 'sand'. They put sand in the gas tanks. I don't want to ask the question because your lawnmower sitting in your garage looked so unsuspecting and innocent.
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing. lol
I love these will it engine vids
D4x4Bronc, Thanks for the positive feedback and thanks for commenting!
Project Farm Bro your videos are on fire. All them views that quick. Get ready to be a household name.
I'm on my New Year's resolution (diet). Maybe if you tried asparatame, it will make the engine run "leaner".
Thank you for the video idea!
Aw yes, put nerve poison into any system what ever organic or mechanical in nature sounds like excellent idea... Well least its cheap ant killer chemical.
Some years ago I read an Army field manual that was printed in the 1950s or 60s that had to do with sabotaging equipment behind enemy lines.
There was a chapter devoted to adding things like sugar, acids, etc, to the fuel tanks and then running the engines for several hours and see what kind of damage was done. The tests were done in a laboratory and well documented.
At the conclusion of the tests it turned out that it was either Linseed or Tung oil (I can’t remember which) were most effective and did the most damage. This was because they were very soluble in gas or diesel fuel so traveled easily through the entire fuel system to the combustion chamber where it would gum up the rings something fierce. What happened after the engines were allowed to cool to ambient temperature is they were locked up solid and required a complete overhaul to get them unstuck.
Thanks for sharing.
It probably wouldn't matter much which of those you used. They are both drying oils and should cause equivalent damage, maybe over slightly different amounts of time.
Thanks! Worked on a Citroen with linseed oil, intentionally added by the owner who thought the oil companies conspired against owners with an inferior product that needed his linseed additive help! Don't know how much he used, but had been doing it for quite a while and it was a real mess, gummy sludgy filter.
My dad has a 73 Mustang Mach 1. When I was little, he drove us to the county fair in it, and while we were driving back home the engine stalled on the freeway. When he got to working on it, he said he saw sugar granules made it all the way up to the carburetor. He also siphoned out the gas and a load of sugar came out. He ended up replacing the entire fuel tank, lines, and cleaned the carb. Not really sure what compelled a person to do that to such a nice car. Sugar can definitely do some damage.
Thanks for sharing.
My steps to clean:
Drop the tank and clean.
Seafoam for the head/piston build-up.
New Fuel Filter.
Injector Cleaner.
Thank you for this recommendation!
Sugar only clogs fuel filters, won't harm an engine.
Thank you!
milo so you think after I change fuel pump and add new gas it will good away
Yes it will i have worked on 2 cars in my 28 yrs of fixing vehicles and they both had sugar in the tank and it seized the valves in the guides and broke the timing chain both was chevy 4cly engines when i removed the head it looked like caramel and hot water dissolved the mess but carb cleaner or break cleaner wouldnt touch it
@@kenpryor4440 It also depends a lot on the fuel filters. The newer vehicles tend to use better filtration.
@@AlexvrbX yea and how much sugar someone puts in it i know the 2 i have fixed the engine valves was seized and gas tank was full of sugar
Interesting. How about a test for fuel additive engine cleaners or oil additives like molybdenum etc. There are so many products out there.
In the old days most engines used a settling bulb instead of a fuel filter. Sugar is light enough that it often doesn't settle out like sand and grit does and can get carried up into the carburetor. What happens from there depends on the engine, ranging from significant carbon buildup like you saw to plugging up the carburetor jets, or gumming up the valves. Seizing the engine is a bit of an exaggeration, but it's definitely not good for it and depending on what gets blocked up it can take quite a bit of effort to get it cleaned out again.
Thanks for sharing!
Sugar in a car will not necessarily damage the internal parts of the engine. It can damage it if for some reason the things it will destroy first keep functioning. To start depends on the year of car. A car from say the 80s or older having a carburetor not a throttle body will start to gum up causing the car to backfire and (I know from experience) will start on fire. Flanges will stop opening and can bend the needles inside carb. Fuel filters and lines will clog up plus electric or mechanical fuel pumps will malfunction.
That's is the difference between a automobile and the lawn mower. A lawnmower has a gravity feed gas system leaving majority of the sugar laying in the tank and a carburetor that is set to run at one constant feed. A car has a fuel pump that pulls or sucks the gas up off from the bottom of tank sucking the sugar into the system, sugar is flammable that can cause the carb catching fire after backfiring. A fuel injectoin system will clog injector rails and the fuel purge valve causing car not to run. Usual replacement of the whole fuel lines and filters carbs or injectors and rail are required to fix. An that can be EXPENSIVE.
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Adding to the fuel injected engines, I once worked on a vehicle that had paint thinner and sugar put in the fuel tank. The paint thinner caused a further breakdown of the sugar, leading it to further bypass the fuel filter and injectors. By the time I got the vehicle, it did not run, the fuel filter was stopped up, and the injectors were coated with crystallized sugar. The owner of the vehicle opted to replace the entire fuel system. From the fuel tank, pump, filter, lines, and injectors. And, even requested to remove the cylinder head to check for damage or build up on the valves and pistons. Very expensive, but the culprit was found to be an upset ex significant other, and was required to pay for the damages.
Wise u r
What about flour?
@@instantdethmouse I'm dealing with the same problem with an '03 3.8L V6 Mustang Convertible and yes the girls got the top too. And tires as well. Her step father was the Chief of Police in Rutledge, TN so NOTHING was done about it.
In early days, sugar was added to a gas tank as a spiteful way of disabling a car.
Sugar does not disolve in petrol so would stay granular and you would need to add a lot of sugar in the hope that a few grains would get picked up and block the carburettor jets or fuel injectors.
It is a complete myth though as the fuel filter would stop the sugar before it could cause any blockage but eventually, the filter would clog but it would take a very long time.
sugar might damage the fuel pump, but most likely will clog the fuel filter on a car.
g6qwerty, Great point! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Also realized if it gets though the fuel filter and isn't fully dissolved in the gasoline, it may clog fuel injectors too.
I agree... the injector damage seems like a big issue!
a main issue with car engine's is actually all that build up getting all over the sensors and possibly frying the computer from all the weird reading's and a massive rush of codes overloading it
The sugar rumor far predates computers.
I didn't notice which video was made first, yours or Chris Fix, both are excellent videos, excellent job raising this question. Appreciate both videos!
Awesome, thank you!
I have classic car, the first thing I bought for the car, a locking gas cap, my son said dad no one is going to steal your gas, I said I'm not worried about someone stealing my gas, I'm worried about someone putting something in my gas
Degenerate teenages and wackos alike
I have a 63 Tempest, some one just put sugar in my tank and wasted my carburetor. I didn't have a lock gas cap. 🤬
@@DesertDwella did you have a new gas filter on it?
@@alexanderfire9997 correction, not sugar, I dropped my gas tank and the whole fuel system, it was liquid chlorine/ shock, not sugar. 🤬😡
GALLIUM!!! GALLIUM!!! GALLIUM!!!
May I suggest you take an old mower with aluminum block or head...add gallium to a clean warm scuffed up spot...keeping the block warm overnight and see how / if it will catastrophically fail? 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥
IP Freely, This seems like an interesting test! I'll add it to the list! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
I.P. FREELY wooooow slow down there Grant Thompson wrong Chanel. Hahaha but seriously that sounds cool
Dude, just think for a second. The question isn't "if it will fail" IT WILL FAIL. Gallium will eat at any aluminium alloy. You can put a single drop on top of the closed cylinder head and it WILL destroy the engine.
P.S. bleach is not corrosive, acids are corrosive. The correct term would be reducing.
The active chemical in bleach is sodium hypochlorite. It is an oxidising agent. So it is corrosive.
"He's got a little sugar in the tank!"
I'm suspect something similar may have happened to a vehicle I own. What I found in the injectors after pulling the rails and them out with something I've never seen before and I can only imagine would be sugar.. why am on UA-cam right now looking for sugar videos inside injectors / motors. I'm a big fan of B12. I would like to see you add the B12 to see if it intensifies or cleans the problem. Thank you for your time and greatly enjoy the content.
Apologize for any strange lingo I'm using voice text so I'm imagination may need be applied
Thanks and you are welcome!
This video is SWEET!
FrugalPrepper, Yes indeed! Cotton Candy sweet! Just kidding...it did not smell like cotton candy. Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Hahaha!
Sugar doesn't affect in gasoline engine but in diesel it clogs the injectors..
Olli, Great point! I bet it'd cause a lot of issues for some injection pumps too! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Olli Ruponen If the gasoline engine has injectors too ???
Juan Carlos Fernandez same thing
Why?
Sugar does not dissolve in diesel either. So there must be a very, very vital fuel filter missing if it gets all the way to the injectors.
Addictive_LiquoriCe If fuel have some condensed water, sugar might dissolve to that. Fuel filters should stop at least most of that mixture, but old engines without filters might be vulnerable.
ok sir I don't think I would put sugar gas in my lawnmower again
You should of put the cup of sugar directly in the tank without mixing it like it would be in real life and see if more sugar would get sucked up from the bottom of the tank. Great content!! Hope you see this comment off this old video.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Sugar wouldn’t likely cause problems in your gas tank, but pouring it into your crankcase or air intake would likely wreak serious havoc.
Thanks for commenting!
Well your wrong, someone just put half a bag in my full tank of gas. one Fuel Pump, 2 Fuel Filters, 1 O2 sensor, a 50 mile tow ticket later it still is not running like it was.. or at all really.
Someone dumped a substance (I think beer) in the gas tank of my motorcycle when I was in Fargo, ND. What this caused was the throttle slides to seize up (it had 2 carbs) until I eventually got all the beer out of the tank.
thats sad, why do people disrespect a mans bike, thats crazy, im sorry that happened to you brother!
@ambidextrousfapper I understand your screen name. My gas cap at the time didn't have a lock.
Michelob Ultra has 2.6 carbs, not 2.
@@TJ-qz6hr underrated comment lol.
CHLOROX in the fuel tank causes major problems any steel object will start to rust immediately areal problem for injectors and cylinder walls also any rubber type of gasket or O ring turns to jelly A real problem for gas or Diesel engines
I know from experience 😂
✍🏻not✍🏻sugar✍🏻but✍🏻clorox✍🏻
Real bad for aluminum parts too.
Chris, I have used a full tank of ethanol based fuel followed by a standard fuel and it seems to have removed the sugar. Long term I'm not sure.
I'm never buying a mowe from this guy
lol
limitless rc where to buy mowe?
Mowes are rare.
georgekelp is that a Pokémon or somthing?
it was auto correct messing up mower
I suspect the better additives will work well, I'll keep an eye out for the video when you get enough suggestions. ACCORDING Delco puts out a good cleaner but it is pricey.
I've heard bleach siezes and is hard to trace. That'd be a cool video
Kevin, I'll add that to my list of potential projects! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
I have hear ( in a conversion about sugar damaging an engine) that bleach actually can damage it, so I would also like to see this tested.
If you do bleach, be sure to do it outside as bleach can and will give off toxic fumes.
Andrew Greif umm are you assuming he'd be running the engine indoors normally lol
Kevin Milton I was actually told that by a coworker the other day. that is actually what prompted me to watch this vid. I also would love to see a bleach test
I was told that sugar only clogs the fuel filter. Some saboteurs have suggested ''Karo'' brand liquid sugar, but I'm not sure if it is still on shelves of stores anymore.
Thanks for the feedback.
I bet Chrisfix saw this video before he fixed his new charity car which was vandalized and added sugar to the petrol tank.
He's got a great channel!
In his video he showed that pouring sugar into the gas tank won’t actually do much to the engine since sugar doesn’t dissolve into gas and any fuel filter should be able to filter those big ass granules of sugar
If sugar made it to the engine it would stop the piston due to a really large knock followed by a warped piston head at least . So God bless the filter lol
This is why I always have a locking gas cap on my automobile engine.
I am concerned that vandals might put some sugar into my engine.
Great point.
Don't worry about that. Mythbusters tried it (mythresults.com/episode15) and reported "The engine ran even better than without the sugar."
I stopped using locking gas caps when one got a death grip on the fuel neck. I had a devil of a time getting it off.
It only takes a minute to break off a locking cap with a screwdriver,just a false sense of security,sorry.keep in garage locked.
@@josephbragg5445 But if they break the lock on the gas cap at least it alerts you that something is up so you can drain the gas before it does more damage.
@@paradigmfl cant disagree with that if u buy one get a metal one if possible ,plastic caps pop right off and metal holds up better im sure they cost more as if the plastic ones are not enough,they may not make metal ones anymore I havent seen a metal one since the 70s good luck.
the best things to put in a gas tank is Karo syrup it works every time
Joseph, This makes sense since it is already dissolved and should make it past the fuel filter. Seems like a great test! Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
+Project Farm thank you for reply have a great night
karo syrup; what are the effects?
+theomnipresent1 if it's a carburetor motor engine it will more than likely seized motor if it's a fuel injected motor it'll more than likely clogged fuel injection and possibly seize the motor
If you want to ruin an engine with sugar, put it in the crankcase. I know for a fact it will seize an oil pump. I suspect it could seize much more.
Anyone who ever has used a small motor, engine might fear vandalism at some time. I was once. Good video to help inform.
Thanks!
Best way to get revenge on the neighbor who keyes your and other neighbors car doors and thinking he can get away with it!
Sugar can really screw up a carb. (Remember when cars had them?) Seems a fellow-employee thug dosed my gas tank with sugar. Dunno just when. Day or more later, vehicle slowly died enroute work, major problem doing "Mexican rebuild" on roadside later, in snow. Heavy dosing with carb cleaner got the passages cleaned out. Bottom line: seems that sugar in solution/suspension precipitates out in a carburetor. Locking gas cap a +++. :')
All excellent points. Thanks for commenting!
My truck has a carb
Will do the same to a fuel injector.
The best thing u can do is go buy a couple fitlers an feel your tank fool with gas. Plus any small sediment in the gas can do the same as sugar. But sugar in do time can actually cause the gas to turn into a jelly looking paste.
Replace and clean then use lucas and horsepower booster attitive maybe with sulfer to help burn residue but not more than an ounce for a few fill ups.
Somebody dumped sugar into my gas tank and fucked up my fuel pump.
I think it was the girl in your profile picture.
Since the fuel pump has a filter to keep small particles out of the fuel system it probably plugged that up.
The filter is after the pump. The pump is in the tank and has no filter as it uses the fuel for lubrication so a clogged filter would destroy it faster than any dirt it sucks up
Christopher Bredel: There is actually a primary filter to prevent larger particles that can damage an in tank fuel filter from getting to it. This is a fine screen which under normal circumstances will not clog as the solid material it prevents from getting sucked in will drop off it when the vehicle's motor is turned off.
yup same here fuel pump went
My dad had a 4 cylinder engine block in our machine shedd back in the seventies. He had told me it was seized from having been sugared. He had gotten it where he worked from a car repair. He had some plans for it but nothing was done with it.
Thanks for sharing.
Change fuel filter sugar would clog a fuel filter on a car
wade, Thanks for watching the video and commenting!
Todd - butanol is both an organic sugar solvent and also is being marketed as "bio-gasoline", compatible with gas engines.
If I understand the chemistry, you could do a demo with quite a bit of sugar in an engine and then "rescue" it with a tank or two of butanol.
Some scammy company will probably eventually market a pint of it as "Sugar Rescue" for $7.99 at Wally World.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanol
Great video idea! Thank you
Do a test to see what “additive” will actually kill an engine the fastest.
Asking for a friend of course.....
Thank you for the video idea!
Nitromethane maybe?
Bleach
A teaspoon of garnet in the oil does not take very long at all!
Obama's billion dollar boondoggle 'Cash for Clunkers' had an entire protocol for destroying the engines. The oil was drained out and sodium silicate was put in as replacement then the engines were ran to seizure, I believe coolant was drained as well. Tragically ended the life of a lot of slant 6's that would otherwise still be running.
I ran a motorcycle repair shop for many years and came across sugar in tanks several times. Symptoms were that the bike would start fine, but as the contaminated fuel reached the carb the performance would fall off, perhaps by about 50% and then if the engine was stopped it would refuse to restart. Full fuel change always seemed to put things back to normal.
Thanks for the feedback.
Dudee!!!!! Sugar in the gas tank is not the worst scenario, serious problems'll be caused if someone puts sugar in the oil sistem of your engine!!!!!
This is a great point. Thanks for commenting!
You should delete his comment. It will give the wrong people advice on how to destroy an engine. I'm a LEO and know this will cause permeate damage, have investigated this type of tampering w/ an automobile.
Or a pinch of sand in the oil.
Joseph M fuck a Leo I'm an Aries bitch 😈🖕🏽
Anyone who wants to know how to sabotage a vehicle can easily figure it out elsewhere, this is the internet, after all. "Delete his comment", Joseph, were you being serious? Might as well censor every other thing on the internet too, I mean screw freedom of speach, right? An LEO, I doubt it... Silly fella.
Drop tank to get sediments out change fuel filter& run sea- foam in it 😳 that will fix it
Here if you had a problem with someone they just put sand in your mopeds gas tank.
Thanks for commenting!
Yeah and nothing happened. Pee in the tank if you want to make a problem for someone.
The old Volkswagen air cooled Bugs weren't equipped with a fuel filter. We had a customer come into our shop with an engine which lacked power. It took full throttle just to keep the engine running. We noted that there was sugar particles coming out of the acceleration pump nozzle. Somebody had somehow put sugar into his gas tank. While taking the cylinders off we noticed that the cylinders had to be forced off the pistons. There was a blackened coating on the cylinder walls which resulted in no oil clearance between the piston skirts and the cylinder walls. We even tasted that black coating and it had a sweetness to it. So yes, if you have a carburetor engine without a fuel filter installed, it will cook the sugar onto the cylinder walls until there is no oil clearance.
Thanks for sharing.
Soda is the one you have to worry about
Don't ask how i know....
LOL! Thanks for commenting!
How do you know?