This is the correct cold start procedure listed in most owners manuals. Pump pedal to flood engine, crank cold engine until starter motor starts to smoke. If engine actually starts, put foot to floor so your windows defrost as quickly as possible. Don't forget to never change the oil!
I love the spirits of this seemingly russian (?) mechanics YT channel. No stupid product placement, no VPN BS, just passion and the will to share stuffs.
because you need way less money to survive YT money is way more then necessary anyway they are mechanics and have a real job.. compare that to american youtuber :D
Heh, this made me laugh but when you’re in a shop like his people will pay you to take/dispose of these kinds of cars, usually they don’t pass inspection or are just too expensive to return to safe working order and must be scrapped, and you get to play with them =)
I was weeping for this poor old Lada wagon. Watching them cranking it with the engine oil as thick as molasses would give any mechanic heart palpitations.
Good comment, I agree with you. This is not a negative comment. But............ The definition of regular describing things has changed over time. Regular oil to me was non detergent 30W. Regular gas was leaded gas that sold as low as 18.7 cents per gallon. I do use synthetic oil in my car now. Things change but the old stuff is still stuck in my mind.
@@mattikurimus Engine oils have 5 classes based on the base oil. I think the upper 2 levels are true syncthetic, the middle one is semi-synthtetic. So what is regular?
Yes, I do not speak russian so I use subs, but when watching russian movies with ammerican, french etc. charrecters male, female, Kids it is allways the same guy, it is bad, very bad.
I remember watching my grandfather build a small fire under the oil pan of his farm tractor, during cold weather in Wisconsin. I've used an electric heat tape and an old Army blanket to warm up the engine on my wood splitter in the winter. When it's 25 degrees (F) below zero outside, it would have to be an emergency if I had to start up my truck to go anywhere. I'm retired. Better to wait for the temperature to rise a bit. Same with a blizzard, better to hunker down and wait until it's over to venture anywhere. Good job showing what happens inside an engine during cold weather.
My grandpa used to freight with cats and sleighs and sometimes trucks in northern Manitoba and Saskatchewan back in the 1950s and 60s. My dad remembers going out in the bush with him to get a truck started. He used a fire to warm the engine as well, but he built it next to the truck and then shoveled the hot coals under the engine. I think he was worried about catching the truck on fire as the lower end was probably covered in oil from leaks. My dad said it took hours but when he finally turned it over it started just like it was summertime. Ken
@@hmw-ms3tx I used to live in Manitoba and we would sometimes go to my friends cabin during the winter in Lake of the Woods (Ontario). Usually around -38C and the cabin was on an Island so we would drive there on the ice roads so being stranded was really being stranded in -38 C weather as cell phones weren't a thing back then. We would take our batteries out of our SUV's and take them inside the cabin (fireplace for heat) for the night to keep them fresh. In the morning I would light a bag of match light charcoal (used for grilling) and place it on a cookie sheet. I would wait a bit for any flames to die down and the heat to subside a bit as to not melt anything under the SUV and then slide the pan under the SUV's oil pan. 20 minutes or so was usually good, bring the battery out and reconnect it while we waited (easier said then done in -38C) and the SUV's started up like summer time (like you said). It was a good system but the inside of the SUV would smell like smoke from the charcoal for a few months. If I ever had to do it again I would park the night before with the wind direction in mind.
Use to be the same on our old farm. We didn't build fires but would use kerosene heaters with blankets over the tractor engine. This was with the engine block heater running. Cars would usually start with the block heater running alone, but they wouldn't like it and need to be warmed up.
Dude. You’re a riot. I loved that attempt. I’m from northern Minnesota and we get temperatures down to -40 F. and I often though about my oil as thick as honey. Engine heaters are a must here.
I love this, it reminds me from America that no matter the geographical differences or the differences our leaders try to make us believe. We are all the same. We have our hobbies and our curiosities all the same! Love From the United States!
Meanwhile, your social is being traded on the dark net by criminal groups sanctioned by the Russian government. People are similar, governments are very different when you have oligarchs running the show there.
When I was doing engine development work 20+ years ago, we did cold starts at -40°. As soon as it fired, it was put on the governor. Sometimes it was only running on a couple of cylinders, and it might take a while for all of the cylinders to fire. I was working on a new lubrication system at one point, and the oil pressure spiked to 400psi and put the oil filter cannister onto the floor. Strings of oil were dangling from the filter head, and there was a PILE of oil on the floor.
@@loicdore39that’s false. Oil and gasoline are miscible. This is why fuel dilution is a thing, and modern cars will set mixture codes if the fuel dilutes the crankcase too much. Once oil and fuel mix, it’s very difficult for the two to separate. Some fuel will evaporate, but what will most definitely evaporate are the engine bearings if you run it with diluted oil for too long. This is why extended oil changes on direct injected engines is dumb.
@lynxstarautomotive208 in some airplane it's a mandatory protocol in very cold conditions so it must not so stupid . Long intervals are destructive indeed
ahhhh my fiat with the old 127 engine although monopoint injection and electronic ignition when its cold still starts first on 2 then 3 and in the end 4 cylinders lol
As a Canadian I can appreciate this based on our winters, -24 to -36 C is typical here also. Thank you for doing this video and also thank you for translating into English audio.
Great video. Living in Alaska we have similar issues. This is why we install block heaters, oil pan heaters and battery tenders for safer starting. Sometimes we use diesel forced air heaters with a tarp over the engine to get things going.
@@PotatotheTroll meh that's a warm summer I have been through minus 52 Celsius which is much colder kiddo that will freeze your balls off in a second flat🤣
@@ce7545 just let it idle for 3-10 minutes depending on how cold it is, its not really necessary with modern engines though unless you're in below zero temps (Fahrenheit because I'm a filthy American). Just waiting until your revs drop is typically enough as long as you aren't flooring it out of the driveway
@Garage54 Excellent demonstration. I'd love to see this same car tested with completely synthetic oil to see if the lower viscosity really makes a difference in an extreme environment like this.
Good experiment! Before I found this video, I recently installed a "heating pad" for my oil pan, on my diesel truck. The heating pad is only 250 watts, but will raise the temperature by about 20 degrees. In combination with light weight oil in winter, I ensure my truck gets lubrication to the cams and valve train. This video confirms my thoughts.
That was interesting, thank you. :) And hello from Alberta Canada....looking for -42C shortly after Christmas here, thank goodness for block heaters. :) Merry Christmas and stay warm.
Excellent video. Having worked on numerous Ford Pinto engines with the hexagon drive from distributor to oil pump, which was a renown weak point. The later CVH engine had the oil pump driven directly from two flats on the front crankshaft journal. I have never experienced anywhere near minus 20 degrees C, but can now easily see how it affects oil flow (or lack of it). Once again, excellent video
When I was a young lad (many, many years ago), you used the thickest "mud" that would still allow the engine to start and yes, you warmed up until the temp gauge needle started to move. Doing anything else like a takeoff with thick, cold lube oil drastically shortened engine life. Modern engines are very different. These guys have done a great public service in demonstrating why you should always use the exact lubricating oils specified my the manufacture of your engine. These dudes get an A+ for being crazy fun!!!!
Not necessarily, using a slightly thicker weight oil than recommended on older engines (such as the ford crown victoria being recommended 5w20 when its best using 5w30)
I just discovered Garage 54 and I am instantly hooked! The confidence you have in experimenting with engines and classic Russian vehicles, and your knowledge of how all of it works together--or doesn't work--is marvelous. I am looking forward to binge watching your channel from Virginia, USA.
Finally a video to prove that it is a good idea to warm your car up before driving I always read on the internet people saying that you do not need to warm your car up before driving it but I am the type of person that warms their car up for at least 20 minutes it's a lot more than just your motor oil people forget about the transmission fluid if you just start your car and pull away your transmission fluid is much thicker creating higher transmission pressures. You guys are awesome I love your channel keep doing what you do thank you for this video that clearly shows it's better to warm your car up
@@manuelsilva1999 Yeah, I have done my time too. Makes me want to get a green card and move to some place like Texas or Arizona. If some one offered me a job in Flagstaff I would be there in a flash!
i was broke down once in MN at -22f waiting for a tow truck. belt broke so no water pump and no heat. ive experienced -45f as well in MT. its freaky how that kind of cold feels. all you can do is dress in layers.
@@_AndromedaGalaxy_ I live in western Canada. If I'm traveling in the winter through cold weather I have a survival kit that includes a parka good for -45C, thermal pants, candles and some high calorie food like trail mix. If I have passengers I insist that they equip themselves for an emergency. Before I went to university I was a surveyor so I know about being out in cold weather. On the survey crew I was standing at the instrument in -40C with a 30k north wind for 2 hours - we spent the rest of the day in the truck. The problem with weather like that is all you have to is look at something wrong and it breaks!!!
Like to see this experiment done with a block heater, I've always noticed the ease of the motor firing up when I've had to do cold starts in cold weather.
This is why the block heater was invented, and you would have an extension cord hanging out of your hood. Then your engine would not get to negative 'nope' levels.
My dad and I ran his Mack truck all night outside at minus 35C one night as we changed engines in another vehical. He didn't want to shut it off as he was afraid it would not start again outside the shop at minus 35 and we were in the start of a 3 week cold snap. The 1957 Mack B-61 with the 170, cracked a piston that night. We ran that old grain truck for 5 years with a cracked piston. At the end of its life he would drain 3 gallons of water from the oil pan in the morning. We were running 80-90 gear oil for engine oil. It would steam out 5 gallons of water in a 6 mile run to the field, and for the first start in the morning it would take a can and a half of ether to start it. My dad said, "I buy Mack trucks, because if you can start it, it will get you home."
Yeah! We are really interested in your more and more transparent stuff, please do keep making these videos and we your fans are here to support you till death. One of best channel on the planet 👌 👏.
This voice from BMI Russian almost choked me from laughing so hard!! Garage 54 guests learn after a video is published to UA-cam how their translated voice is going to sound. :)
In the winter with my 1987 International 6.9L diesel-- I would get under my truck and take a torch to the oil pan and filter for 20 minutes. Always did the trick. There was no way in the coldest weather I would force that beast to start without heating the oil. Once you get her all warmed up- she ran like a champ.
Hello from the USA. I really like your video. I always wondered what the oil behaved like on a cold start as I live in a part of the U.S. that can get very cold in the winter too. Thanks again!
Definitely cool as I've never seen anything like this before. This why engine block heaters are used at this temperature. Nice job! I'd like to see this on the transmission.
@@Topsiekku You know the first number in oil is when the oil is hot right, the second number, or high number is when the oil is cold. Think i'm wrong, toss some 0w40 in the freezer and see how it pours. The first number is the viscosity at 300f. The second number is viscosity at the freezing point, 0c or 32f. Hope that helps.
@@JuanSe2691 Look at any oil test with temps and viscosity. If the first number is the cold number, or thin viscostiy then why is it so thick? Ever change oil on a cold engine vs a hot off the highway engine? The first number is the hot, or running viscosity. Stick some oil in the freezer and come back and tell me the oil is nice and thin, low viscosity first number and pours out fast and easy. And tell me what oil gets thicker as it gets hotter? Did you even watch the video? Was that runny thin oil in the cold? Send some links to oil viscosity tests at cold and hot temps proving cold oil flows faster and better. I will wait.
@@ducewags well, any decent multi-grade oil should be nice and thin when cold, and offer good film strength under operating temperatures. That's the whole meaning of the numbers. I use 5w40 oil in my car as recommended by the manufacturer, the 5w means it's going to have enough fluidity when cold to offer immediate flow to crucial parts within the engine, and the 40 represents the viscosity at operating (hot) temperatures. Oh but the oil is thick when cold and thin when hot you say? That's a monograde oil and shouldn't be used on anything other than vintage cars that call for it and stationary machinery. Those have a single number. That's exactly what a multi-grade oil solves by behaving in an opposite way. Say, a monograde 40 oil is going to be thick from the get go, especially when cold. Now, a 5w40, is going to be thinner the colder it gets (until a certain point, that is), but at operating temperatures is going to behave like the 40 weight when hot. That's all there is to it. It's not rocket science. Even if I'm qualified to tell you about these things (I'm a certified automotive technician) that shouldn't be the case, any person of average knowledge and especially a car owner should know. It's even on almost every car's owners manual, with graphics and everything.
Great video, block heaters where invented for a reason, I have even seen camp fires placed directly under the pan and kept going all night. I have also seen trucks run for weeks if not a month at a time, before you shut them off. But definitely invest to get a block heater.
Ladas were generally fairly reliable, despite being unsophisticated. But that made them easy to fix and it's why they became so popular in Russia's harsh conditions.
@@vasiliansotirov6976 I had a TU 1.1L engine once that had low compression and dropped liners, I bounced it off the limiter for about 5 seconds and managed to spin 3 of the 4 bearings in that time
Wow!! What an awesome channel! This is a lot like Kerosan English which is a lot like this. This poor Lada was the hero here but really the start and the battery are the true tough guys lol. Love from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤
My first car, when aged 17, was a 1977 Vauxhall Chevette and it suffered the exact same failure of the gear between the camsaft and oil pump / distributor. Fixed it and I've been fixing cars ever since.
Wouldn't make a different on this car. The lubrication of this engine is GARBAGE. It's a good thing though that it's all cast iron and you can rev the fuck out of it even like this. I would like to see the same test on a modern engine. Modern lubrication systems are much better at circulating cold thick oil.
Thank you very much for that experiment!! It made me think of the -15.0 F morning in McCall,ID when I cold-started my 86 Chevy Sprint and destroyed the oil pump. I actually ran the car for a full year without a functioning oil pump. The engine was noisy at first andleaked about 1qt of motor per week oil, but I just kept adding a blend of motor oil and STP
Im an aviation nut.... The Russian's when they flew their old radials in these same conditions, would add petrol to the oil to thin it out. Then as the engine warmed the oil would get to temperatures and all the petrol in the oil would burn off. Its actually in the manual.
Considering they are using mineral oil it's likely just breaking up any and all carbon buildup since they didn't even bother flushing the engine, so a bit of old oil too.
@@SilvaDreams He said it would be flushed, or at least go through an extra oil change prior, no other reason they'd be unwrapping multiple oil filters.
Awesome, you did your experiment exactly right. I love it haha. It was going threw my head how you needed to do this and I was pleased to see you did it as I envisioned. Love Garage 54 from Phoenix Arizona USA!
I am impressed, I new something could happen, but I just thought it would fire up, in the UK it hardly freezes below -6 , one year it was -15 for a night and froze hard for some time after, the soil pipes froze, luckily it warmed up again, so no unpleasant jobs, full respect to you in Russia, that is properly cold and I now know if arctic conditions come to the UK, I need to heat my car first.
They drained the oil then changed the pan and filled fresh oil in. After they chilled the car but the oil pump was still empty and could not get the air out with the cold, thick oil. They should have fired up the engine for a minute to get the air out of the system after the oil change before they chilled it over night.
What an exciting display of ingenuity. In winter your oil becomes too thick to be picked up and distributed throughout the engine. The amount of force to pickup the oil required increases, resulting in an increase in the torque on the distributor shaft gear. This torque was strong enough to break it's teeth. You totally illustrated this in a meaningful and easy to understand concept. Thank You.
No, not to pick it up. That would only be ~14psi worth of work. Pressure. It can't leave thru the frozen channels it normally passes thru, and can't bleed off thru the relief for the same reason. The pressure builds up and since liquids are incompressible, something has to give. If the oil can't escape anywhere, the torque coming into the pump has to.
But that is the best way actually. If the oil pump can pump oil in idle, it can also pump oil under load. And even better with higher revs. Just don't floor it like a mad man. Idling doesn't really take much and the oil takes longer to get to temperature. And in some countries it is forbidden to let your car idle just to get it to temperature.
They do make oil pan heaters you can plug in. One of the designs is a heated oil stick that goes down into the dipstick tube and keeps the oil warm, it just plugs into an outlet or probably a good extension cord.
I’m a school bus driver, and in the winter time sometimes we put these little electric blanket things under the oil pan to warm up the oil for this reason. Also, all buses are plugged into trickle chargers whenever they bit being being driven, especially overnight. Both of those things help a ton!
The true unsung champion here is the battery
A round of applause for the battery ladies and gents
You beat me to it. I was asking myself what kind of battery they are using. The guy just turn the key and went to sleep.
Don’t forget that starter that poor thing ran the motor till it warmed up enough to start! It and the battery are the true heroes here!
you both forgot about the starter wires, these probably has reach the temperature of sun
Maybe they should of made it electric
They may as well had just started shifting gears.
Can we just appreciate the fact that he never clickbait us?
Plus they dub the audio for English users which Im grateful for
And he doesnt try to sell us a vpn
Not even the thumbnail.
🙌😍
Straight up no fuss engineering i love it! ❤
This is the correct cold start procedure listed in most owners manuals. Pump pedal to flood engine, crank cold engine until starter motor starts to smoke. If engine actually starts, put foot to floor so your windows defrost as quickly as possible. Don't forget to never change the oil!
yeah that's totally legit🤣🤣🤣
Real world "ownership": the non owner of a leased car doesn't care about a car they will be handing back after three years of not caring a hoot
@@user-or4hs7xq9u I know I did that with a bmw i3s already🤣
😂😂😂
LMAO!!!😂
I love the spirits of this seemingly russian (?) mechanics YT channel. No stupid product placement, no VPN BS, just passion and the will to share stuffs.
The « meanwhile in Russia » meme is perfect here ^^ I love this channel.
i know what s wrong with it, it aint got no gas in it
because you need way less money to survive YT money is way more then necessary anyway they are mechanics and have a real job.. compare that to american youtuber :D
"This thing is completely frozen over"
*Red-lines it*
That oil is so thick at that temp you actually could burn the motor up by redding it like that. Need to let the oil work through
It’s called an express warm up
Heh, this made me laugh but when you’re in a shop like his people will pay you to take/dispose of these kinds of cars, usually they don’t pass inspection or are just too expensive to return to safe working order and must be scrapped, and you get to play with them =)
Exactly what I used to do in my old Civic. It never failed me.
@@badhorse1640 Italian fixxing
Thanks for listening to us Vlad. Speaks highly of your character.
His names vlad? Hm
@@kylethompson2431 yeah. He's pretty interesting if you Google him.
Sounds so much more natural with Vlad. Glad he's back. Wise decision
Your the best
Yes he reads all our comments
I was weeping for this poor old Lada wagon. Watching them cranking it with the engine oil as thick as molasses would give any mechanic heart palpitations.
It would have been nice to see synthetic oil versus regular motor oil instead of mineral oil
What is "regular motor oil"? Regularly they are synthetic... And other option is mineral.
Good comment, I agree with you. This is not a negative comment. But............ The definition of regular describing things has changed over time. Regular oil to me was non detergent 30W. Regular gas was leaded gas that sold as low as 18.7 cents per gallon. I do use synthetic oil in my car now. Things change but the old stuff is still stuck in my mind.
Synthetic oil is probably not readily available in the Country this was filmed in.
With synthetic 5W-40 it'll just be liquid at -30C. The temperature it freezes at is -40 F (which is also -40C)
@@mattikurimus Engine oils have 5 classes based on the base oil. I think the upper 2 levels are true syncthetic, the middle one is semi-synthtetic. So what is regular?
I love the art of the voiceover, how he's obligated to make distinctly different voices for different people. It's hilarious
Yes, I do not speak russian so I use subs, but when watching russian movies with ammerican, french etc. charrecters male, female, Kids it is allways the same guy, it is bad, very bad.
@@dimitarmladenski1367 No way! That's even funnier
Default male voice 1, default female voice 1, default child voice 1.
I came directly to the comments looking to see if someone already said this!
I love that the lab tech type guy had a nerdy voice 😂
Can we all just appreciate the battery and the starter during the cold-start? I salute you.
The battery is the real mvp
And how the starter solenoid didn't melt with that much constant cranking. Honestly I was shocked.
That must have been a Grade A++++ battery to keep cranking like that.
Indeed. A proper Salute to them 2 fellows
Always thumb down any comment that starts with "Can we"
I remember watching my grandfather build a small fire under the oil pan of his farm tractor, during cold weather in Wisconsin. I've used an electric heat tape and an old Army blanket to warm up the engine on my wood splitter in the winter. When it's 25 degrees (F) below zero outside, it would have to be an emergency if I had to start up my truck to go anywhere. I'm retired. Better to wait for the temperature to rise a bit. Same with a blizzard, better to hunker down and wait until it's over to venture anywhere. Good job showing what happens inside an engine during cold weather.
My grandpa used to freight with cats and sleighs and sometimes trucks in northern Manitoba and Saskatchewan back in the 1950s and 60s. My dad remembers going out in the bush with him to get a truck started. He used a fire to warm the engine as well, but he built it next to the truck and then shoveled the hot coals under the engine. I think he was worried about catching the truck on fire as the lower end was probably covered in oil from leaks. My dad said it took hours but when he finally turned it over it started just like it was summertime. Ken
@@hmw-ms3tx I used to live in Manitoba and we would sometimes go to my friends cabin during the winter in Lake of the Woods (Ontario). Usually around -38C and the cabin was on an Island so we would drive there on the ice roads so being stranded was really being stranded in -38 C weather as cell phones weren't a thing back then. We would take our batteries out of our SUV's and take them inside the cabin (fireplace for heat) for the night to keep them fresh. In the morning I would light a bag of match light charcoal (used for grilling) and place it on a cookie sheet. I would wait a bit for any flames to die down and the heat to subside a bit as to not melt anything under the SUV and then slide the pan under the SUV's oil pan. 20 minutes or so was usually good, bring the battery out and reconnect it while we waited (easier said then done in -38C) and the SUV's started up like summer time (like you said). It was a good system but the inside of the SUV would smell like smoke from the charcoal for a few months. If I ever had to do it again I would park the night before with the wind direction in mind.
here in finland car starts easily in -4 fahrenheit
Use to be the same on our old farm. We didn't build fires but would use kerosene heaters with blankets over the tractor engine. This was with the engine block heater running. Cars would usually start with the block heater running alone, but they wouldn't like it and need to be warmed up.
Dude. You’re a riot. I loved that attempt. I’m from northern Minnesota and we get temperatures down to -40 F. and I often though about my oil as thick as honey. Engine heaters are a must here.
I love this, it reminds me from America that no matter the geographical differences or the differences our leaders try to make us believe. We are all the same. We have our hobbies and our curiosities all the same! Love From the United States!
Yup, true, very true.
And that should be pinned to top of the comment section collin 🖐
Greetings from Poland.
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Meanwhile, your social is being traded on the dark net by criminal groups sanctioned by the Russian government. People are similar, governments are very different when you have oligarchs running the show there.
@@dylconnaway9976 You mean Zionist oligarchs?
Car: doesn’t start
Vlad: “You call yourself a Lada?!?”
Car: “How dare you sir.” *VROOM*
You got it all wrong lol. Not starting is a natural state for a Lada.
Needs more vodka to wake up
After he said the car just started🤣
Lada got embrassed and started
*_LOL I love this comment and replies_* 😂
@@demoliter yeah ha ha after it starts is when you should be saying “you call yourself a Lada?“
When I was doing engine development work 20+ years ago, we did cold starts at -40°. As soon as it fired, it was put on the governor. Sometimes it was only running on a couple of cylinders, and it might take a while for all of the cylinders to fire. I was working on a new lubrication system at one point, and the oil pressure spiked to 400psi and put the oil filter cannister onto the floor. Strings of oil were dangling from the filter head, and there was a PILE of oil on the floor.
A simple fix is to mix fuel into the oil and job done . The fuel will evaporate when the engine heats up
@@loicdore39that’s false. Oil and gasoline are miscible. This is why fuel dilution is a thing, and modern cars will set mixture codes if the fuel dilutes the crankcase too much.
Once oil and fuel mix, it’s very difficult for the two to separate. Some fuel will evaporate, but what will most definitely evaporate are the engine bearings if you run it with diluted oil for too long.
This is why extended oil changes on direct injected engines is dumb.
@lynxstarautomotive208 in some airplane it's a mandatory protocol in very cold conditions so it must not so stupid .
Long intervals are destructive indeed
ahhhh my fiat with the old 127 engine although monopoint injection and electronic ignition when its cold still starts first on 2 then 3 and in the end 4 cylinders lol
You were using the wrong viscosity oil!!
As a Canadian I can appreciate this based on our winters, -24 to -36 C is typical here also. Thank you for doing this video and also thank you for translating into English audio.
im from ontario idk how yall can live where it gets -30 and just be ok with it but i solute you
Even though this was very interesting, this is the WORST way to warm up a car. Winnipegger here, started cars in -40 in rare cases.
I winters ago mfs made me work outside at -35 Celsius
@@newchoppak It's - 30 in Ontario right now ;)
Everyone should remember this is cheap mineral oil, good full synthetic should act aaloott better. Still worth warming up when its that cold though
no one:
The Starter: I'm fighting for my life
No one: Wouldn't it be wonderful if kids on the net started putting a superfluous "no one:" in every god damn comment they make?
Great work from Garage 54 Russia. Ingenious plastic valve and sump cover. Thanks for going to all this trouble. Tom from New Zealand.
Great video. Living in Alaska we have similar issues. This is why we install block heaters, oil pan heaters and battery tenders for safer starting. Sometimes we use diesel forced air heaters with a tarp over the engine to get things going.
minus 24 is nothing minus 40 is way way colder and more hard core then minus 24 Russians have it easy in winter
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ueminus 40? That’s it huh?
@@SaraMorgan-ym6uethat's -24 Celsius, ya know
@@PotatotheTroll meh that's a warm summer I have been through minus 52 Celsius which is much colder kiddo that will freeze your balls off in a second flat🤣
Or if you’re whistlin diesel, you just light a fire directly under the engine block
Car: im old and getting a bit tired
Owner: your going to the garage
Car: yay!
Owner: its vlad from garage 54
Car: oh crap....
The garage where Lada's go to die: Garage 54.
He reminds me of my massage therapist.
😂🤣
any last words?
@@phendlin give me a good buff before i die
The translator is probably a cool guy but he's cracking me up because he translates with the same cadence as Kermit the Frog.
Read, now cannot not hear Kermit
I ain't complaining, honestly.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah thanks for that, all I picture is a damn frog now lol
It's Constantine!
I love the clear valve Cover, and oil pan. Well done 👍
As a Canadian, this really shows why it’s important to warm up the car before you start driving
How do you warm it up before starting. Im in Australia so never had to think about frozen oil
@@ce7545 just let it idle for 3-10 minutes depending on how cold it is, its not really necessary with modern engines though unless you're in below zero temps (Fahrenheit because I'm a filthy American). Just waiting until your revs drop is typically enough as long as you aren't flooring it out of the driveway
I love how the translator makes everyone’s voice higher than vlad’s 😂😂
@9.38 mark "khuchu khuchu khuchu" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So here's the situation
I laughed my ass off when he said “you are a lada aren’t you? Start!” 🤣
bcs -20С in pretty common temperature for winter in your location. And lots of this cars useв before and now in such environment
The most russian thing ever
@Garage54 Excellent demonstration. I'd love to see this same car tested with completely synthetic oil to see if the lower viscosity really makes a difference in an extreme environment like this.
Good experiment! Before I found this video, I recently installed a "heating pad" for my oil pan, on my diesel truck. The heating pad is only 250 watts, but will raise the temperature by about 20 degrees. In combination with light weight oil in winter, I ensure my truck gets lubrication to the cams and valve train. This video confirms my thoughts.
Request: Transparent (see through) coolant pipe please
You can buy those online already. Was a car show trend a few years back
Damn dog i heard you like doughnut s
With RGB lighting!
Yessss
Lmao pc watercooling bro
“You are a lada aren’t you? Start!”
Words of encouragement
That was interesting, thank you. :) And hello from Alberta Canada....looking for -42C shortly after Christmas here, thank goodness for block heaters. :) Merry Christmas and stay warm.
Excellent video. Having worked on numerous Ford Pinto engines with the hexagon drive from distributor to oil pump, which was a renown weak point. The later CVH engine had the oil pump driven directly from two flats on the front crankshaft journal.
I have never experienced anywhere near minus 20 degrees C, but can now easily see how it affects oil flow (or lack of it).
Once again, excellent video
When I was a young lad (many, many years ago), you used the thickest "mud" that would still allow the engine to start and yes, you warmed up until the temp gauge needle started to move. Doing anything else like a takeoff with thick, cold lube oil drastically shortened engine life. Modern engines are very different. These guys have done a great public service in demonstrating why you should always use the exact lubricating oils specified my the manufacture of your engine. These dudes get an A+ for being crazy fun!!!!
Not necessarily, using a slightly thicker weight oil than recommended on older engines (such as the ford crown victoria being recommended 5w20 when its best using 5w30)
@@TheCatOfAges i own a 2004 crown victoria and I use 5w - 30 also
Would love to see the same thing with fully synthetic oil as a comparison
Yeah totally...as the oil quality must make a huge difference i quess
Exactly, fully synthtic 0w30 would be absolutely fine with this temperature
@@piotrmaecki5268 And it would be fantastic to see it actually tested if the difference is as huge as we all are thinking
Or any multigrade oil.
@@piotrmaecki5268 im sure it will be a little bit thicker than usual especially at -30C, but still okay.
Thank you for doing this. I've often wondered and had to visualize what it would be like. So cool👍
So the moral of this story is, Frozen oil is essentially the same as no oil.
"It's actually not that cold"
Termometer: -24C
bruh
that isn't very cold my guy
It’s cold in Fahrenheit. Apparently not in Celsius.
@@tomc8829 that's only -11 F.
@@tomc8829 it's cold in Celsius too, just not in Russia 🤭
I just discovered Garage 54 and I am instantly hooked! The confidence you have in experimenting with engines and classic Russian vehicles, and your knowledge of how all of it works together--or doesn't work--is marvelous. I am looking forward to binge watching your channel from Virginia, USA.
she thinks she can she thinks she can the oil looks like the engines crying from trying to hard to start🤣🤣🤣
Virginia here as well and I am in total agreeance
Finally a video to prove that it is a good idea to warm your car up before driving I always read on the internet people saying that you do not need to warm your car up before driving it but I am the type of person that warms their car up for at least 20 minutes it's a lot more than just your motor oil people forget about the transmission fluid if you just start your car and pull away your transmission fluid is much thicker creating higher transmission pressures. You guys are awesome I love your channel keep doing what you do thank you for this video that clearly shows it's better to warm your car up
idk how there isn’t more subscribers to this channel, its always been a gold mine.
Nearly chocked when he said not that cold -24 🤣😂
Normal winter weather. Was like that In finland still a few weeks ago. Did only wear boxers and jeans all winter. 😁
When it warms up to a balmy -24 below. Bin there done that.
@@manuelsilva1999 Yeah, I have done my time too. Makes me want to get a green card and move to some place like Texas or Arizona. If some one offered me a job in Flagstaff I would be there in a flash!
i was broke down once in MN at -22f waiting for a tow truck. belt broke so no water pump and no heat. ive experienced -45f as well in MT. its freaky how that kind of cold feels. all you can do is dress in layers.
@@_AndromedaGalaxy_ I live in western Canada. If I'm traveling in the winter through cold weather I have a survival kit that includes a parka good for -45C, thermal pants, candles and some high calorie food like trail mix. If I have passengers I insist that they equip themselves for an emergency. Before I went to university I was a surveyor so I know about being out in cold weather. On the survey crew I was standing at the instrument in -40C with a 30k north wind for 2 hours - we spent the rest of the day in the truck. The problem with weather like that is all you have to is look at something wrong and it breaks!!!
I love that he takes the time to have someone translate it for him.
Like to see this experiment done with a block heater, I've always noticed the ease of the motor firing up when I've had to do cold starts in cold weather.
This is why the block heater was invented, and you would have an extension cord hanging out of your hood. Then your engine would not get to negative 'nope' levels.
Plot twist : They are actually using customers cars for all these experiments !
🤣🤣👍🏻
"Testing"
Why the hell would anyone do these things to there own. They even show the customers the broken parts and charge them for the repairs
Lol I thought the same thing!
old news :)
I think it'd be cool to see you guys do this test back to back, with conventional oil and synthetic oil so we can see the difference.
in a recent car as well I'm sure it'S a little different
World's funniest car mechanic. This guy has a unique imagination, sometimes I have to see the fun stuff a couple of times
My dad and I ran his Mack truck all night outside at minus 35C one night as we changed engines in another vehical. He didn't want to shut it off as he was afraid it would not start again outside the shop at minus 35 and we were in the start of a 3 week cold snap. The 1957 Mack B-61 with the 170, cracked a piston that night. We ran that old grain truck for 5 years with a cracked piston. At the end of its life he would drain 3 gallons of water from the oil pan in the morning. We were running 80-90 gear oil for engine oil. It would steam out 5 gallons of water in a 6 mile run to the field, and for the first start in the morning it would take a can and a half of ether to start it. My dad said, "I buy Mack trucks, because if you can start it, it will get you home."
Can you do this test again but this time use synthetic oil?
I would expect much better results.
Or any modern proper engine oil
Doesnt matter Synthetic or conventional, 5w-20 will perform the same bc its made for those temps.
@@LucasIsBusy project farm tested that and synthetic flowed better than conventional oil at sub zero Temps. So ya youre mistaken
@@JM-yx1lm Many others have tested this as well. Synthetic has much better cold flow.
Pretty much any 0W oil should theoretically work.
I want to see this experiment with different weight oils. Just to see how well each oil does.
Project Farm has a few videos with that sort of idea.
mixing oils? Nice
same here
@@iainmacrae6982 just not in a running car though
Best visual display ever for using pure synthetic motor oil. With 0W-20 or 5W-20 this start would have been no problem.
Yeah! We are really interested in your more and more transparent stuff, please do keep making these videos and we your fans are here to support you till death.
One of best channel on the planet 👌 👏.
Excellent work Gentlemen, very informative and educational!
The translator broke out the nerd voice for this 02:34
Hahah he does it more in the older videos or any video with Russian speaking guests really
I literally lol'd out loud.
"nerd voice" lmao
This voice from BMI Russian almost choked me from laughing so hard!!
Garage 54 guests learn after a video is published to UA-cam how their translated voice is going to sound. :)
that part was hilarious lol
9:36 "HOOCH KOOCH KOOchoo..."
😂🤣😂
literally LMFAOOO
The engine whisperer
I love this guy. A practical thinking man!
Good grief what a real life engine torture test
! Thank you for this informative and interesting experiment. The clear covers are very cool.
The one dislike is from a person who's mad his oil tank isn't clear.
Its two now
No it's from the guy who lost the splines to his distributor shaft this morning, right before they uploaded this video.
the dislikes are from the people who actually wanted to see how engine oil performed in -30 c. Mineral oil = click bait lol
45 angry dislikes ones by now 🤣
But I'm mad my oil tank isn't clear. I'm mad my whole engine isn't clear!
Yes, more clear covers! Really interesting!
In the winter with my 1987 International 6.9L diesel-- I would get under my truck and take a torch to the oil pan and filter for 20 minutes. Always did the trick. There was no way in the coldest weather I would force that beast to start without heating the oil. Once you get her all warmed up- she ran like a champ.
Block heaters are really great. I use mine for my cummins 6.4l when its cold always.
We could call this Lada "Skittles" due to all the different colors of green it has.
50 shades of green
@@georgobergfell soviet green....yep I watch bald and bankrupt
Hell of a starter on that there engine.
Back when all startats was ungeared... could run Forever... its worse for the batery
Nice battery too!
I read that in the translators voice
I thought the starter was gonna take a crap! The motor is crying, give me VODKA! Hell of a battery too!
Hello from the USA. I really like your video. I always wondered what the oil behaved like on a cold start as I live in a part of the U.S. that can get very cold in the winter too. Thanks again!
Definitely cool as I've never seen anything like this before. This why engine block heaters are used at this temperature. Nice job! I'd like to see this on the transmission.
I love how the translators voice changes when he dubs the other guy
That's a job done with love and care.
Yes more transparent oil videos!
Try the same with syntetich motor oil.
Yes 0w40 or 0w30
@@Topsiekku You know the first number in oil is when the oil is hot right, the second number, or high number is when the oil is cold. Think i'm wrong, toss some 0w40 in the freezer and see how it pours. The first number is the viscosity at 300f. The second number is viscosity at the freezing point, 0c or 32f. Hope that helps.
@@ducewags you got it backwards. First (lower) W number is viscosity in cold temperatures and the higher number is viscosity at 100°c IIRC.
@@JuanSe2691 Look at any oil test with temps and viscosity. If the first number is the cold number, or thin viscostiy then why is it so thick? Ever change oil on a cold engine vs a hot off the highway engine? The first number is the hot, or running viscosity. Stick some oil in the freezer and come back and tell me the oil is nice and thin, low viscosity first number and pours out fast and easy. And tell me what oil gets thicker as it gets hotter? Did you even watch the video? Was that runny thin oil in the cold? Send some links to oil viscosity tests at cold and hot temps proving cold oil flows faster and better. I will wait.
@@ducewags well, any decent multi-grade oil should be nice and thin when cold, and offer good film strength under operating temperatures. That's the whole meaning of the numbers. I use 5w40 oil in my car as recommended by the manufacturer, the 5w means it's going to have enough fluidity when cold to offer immediate flow to crucial parts within the engine, and the 40 represents the viscosity at operating (hot) temperatures.
Oh but the oil is thick when cold and thin when hot you say? That's a monograde oil and shouldn't be used on anything other than vintage cars that call for it and stationary machinery. Those have a single number. That's exactly what a multi-grade oil solves by behaving in an opposite way. Say, a monograde 40 oil is going to be thick from the get go, especially when cold. Now, a 5w40, is going to be thinner the colder it gets (until a certain point, that is), but at operating temperatures is going to behave like the 40 weight when hot.
That's all there is to it. It's not rocket science. Even if I'm qualified to tell you about these things (I'm a certified automotive technician) that shouldn't be the case, any person of average knowledge and especially a car owner should know. It's even on almost every car's owners manual, with graphics and everything.
thank you sire!!!! that was an amazing video....now i learn more about starting a car in could temperatures!!!
Great video, block heaters where invented for a reason, I have even seen camp fires placed directly under the pan and kept going all night. I have also seen trucks run for weeks if not a month at a time, before you shut them off. But definitely invest to get a block heater.
"You call yourself a Lada?" Oh My God, that is funny, Vlad. :)
Ladas were generally fairly reliable, despite being unsophisticated. But that made them easy to fix and it's why they became so popular in Russia's harsh conditions.
10:50 never thought I’d feel sorry for a Lada
That's how you properly warm up a Lada at -30°C.
*Valve float has entered the chat*
Same 😢
Spun bearings has entered the chat
@@vasiliansotirov6976 I had a TU 1.1L engine once that had low compression and dropped liners, I bounced it off the limiter for about 5 seconds and managed to spin 3 of the 4 bearings in that time
Wow!! What an awesome channel! This is a lot like Kerosan English which is a lot like this. This poor Lada was the hero here but really the start and the battery are the true tough guys lol. Love from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤
1/16/23
-15°F yesterday & -10°F today in upper Illinois. Using an engine heater saves us every winter!
Make more transparent things like the transmission, coolant tubes etc. would be very cool to see!
Transparent tranny pan wouldn't really show much since there isn't any moving parts.
@@tylerbonser7686 transparent all the things lol
@@uwusempai2309 naked car 😳
@@posadist681 indeed
That was excellent, I would like to see the exact same test with a modern engine that only run on synthetic oil like 0W20 for example.
0W20 Is a Great Oil! What grade is used in this test?
@@stevethompson152 I'm going with honey on that one.
@@stevethompson152i guess something like 10w40 mineral oil
0w20, used in hybrids like Toyotas too
No way!!! Just the other day I was thinking I wonder what super cold oil would look like in a engine on cold start up. I really love this channel.
My first car, when aged 17, was a 1977 Vauxhall Chevette and it suffered the exact same failure of the gear between the camsaft and oil pump / distributor. Fixed it and I've been fixing cars ever since.
Hats off to giving different voices to the characters, BRAVO !
Should try it again with a synthetic oil and see how it flows in thows temps. Keep up the videos!!
Synthetic is the way to go in those kind of temperatures!🌡Would like to see the engine with it at those temps!!
Wouldn't make a different on this car. The lubrication of this engine is GARBAGE. It's a good thing though that it's all cast iron and you can rev the fuck out of it even like this. I would like to see the same test on a modern engine. Modern lubrication systems are much better at circulating cold thick oil.
@@xXturbo86Xx true. But it’s not just about oil circulation but Metallurgy
Tremendous post. Well done to all involved.
Thank you very much for that experiment!! It made me think of the -15.0 F morning in McCall,ID when I cold-started my 86 Chevy Sprint and destroyed the oil pump. I actually ran the car for a full year without a functioning oil pump. The engine was noisy at first andleaked about 1qt of motor per week oil, but I just kept adding a blend of motor oil and STP
More Transparent stuff YES :)
I thoroughly enjoyed this video, subscribed.
I hope you guys are making a bunch of money with your channel, you deserve it!
Im an aviation nut.... The Russian's when they flew their old radials in these same conditions, would add petrol to the oil to thin it out. Then as the engine warmed the oil would get to temperatures and all the petrol in the oil would burn off. Its actually in the manual.
"So did we." - Best answer all day.
Some good info from our Rooskie friends. Enjoyed the video!
They were killin’ that starter!
The metal shavings turned the oil black really fast. lol
Just leftover oil that clings to the inside of the engine. Just carbon
Considering they are using mineral oil it's likely just breaking up any and all carbon buildup since they didn't even bother flushing the engine, so a bit of old oil too.
@@SilvaDreams Hmm, it seemed like they flushed it twice even. Maybe it's just how it's cut?
@@SilvaDreams He said it would be flushed, or at least go through an extra oil change prior, no other reason they'd be unwrapping multiple oil filters.
It's old oil. An oil change or flush doesn't clean up an engine's Insides to "as new ". Depends how its been treated.
Most edifying. It must be a Russian trait to tackle a problem head-on and find out for one's self. Strong work, guys.
"Just start it and drive." "That's what we'll do." * proceeds to rev to the damn moon immediately *
Thank you for teatching us that!
Awesome, you did your experiment exactly right. I love it haha. It was going threw my head how you needed to do this and I was pleased to see you did it as I envisioned. Love Garage 54 from Phoenix Arizona USA!
I am impressed, I new something could happen, but I just thought it would fire up, in the UK it hardly freezes below -6 , one year it was -15 for a night and froze hard for some time after, the soil pipes froze, luckily it warmed up again, so no unpleasant jobs, full respect to you in Russia, that is properly cold and I now know if arctic conditions come to the UK, I need to heat my car first.
They drained the oil then changed the pan and filled fresh oil in. After they chilled the car but the oil pump was still empty and could not get the air out with the cold, thick oil. They should have fired up the engine for a minute to get the air out of the system after the oil change before they chilled it over night.
good experiment. shows why you need to use the right oil for your car. mine uses a synth thin oil for instant start and go on freezing days.
that's a great test. well done. it certainly makes you think.
What an exciting display of ingenuity. In winter your oil becomes too thick to be picked up and distributed throughout the engine. The amount of force to pickup the oil required increases, resulting in an increase in the torque on the distributor shaft gear. This torque was strong enough to break it's teeth. You totally illustrated this in a meaningful and easy to understand concept. Thank You.
No, not to pick it up. That would only be ~14psi worth of work.
Pressure. It can't leave thru the frozen channels it normally passes thru, and can't bleed off thru the relief for the same reason.
The pressure builds up and since liquids are incompressible, something has to give. If the oil can't escape anywhere, the torque coming into the pump has to.
Nothing creeps me out more than getting out of work after an 8 or more hour day, and seeing people start their cars and IMMEDIATELY drive off
And run it to redline, I'm guilty of being lazy a couple of days but I want my car to last my life time.
But that is the best way actually. If the oil pump can pump oil in idle, it can also pump oil under load. And even better with higher revs. Just don't floor it like a mad man. Idling doesn't really take much and the oil takes longer to get to temperature. And in some countries it is forbidden to let your car idle just to get it to temperature.
They do make oil pan heaters you can plug in. One of the designs is a heated oil stick that goes down into the dipstick tube and keeps the oil warm, it just plugs into an outlet or probably a good extension cord.
This was the first video I seen of your UA-cam channel I like it it was very interesting I'm glad where I'm at it doesn't get that cold
The voice of the mould man is great! All the different voices of the translator is one of the reasons I love this channel so much.😂👍
I’m a school bus driver, and in the winter time sometimes we put these little electric blanket things under the oil pan to warm up the oil for this reason. Also, all buses are plugged into trickle chargers whenever they bit being being driven, especially overnight. Both of those things help a ton!
Built-in oil and coolant heaters are an option on many trucks.