Someone was stealing gas from an old Farmall tractor of my Dad's. He filled the main tank with diesel fuel. (They had a second tank which could be used for gasoline to start on, then could be switched to kerosene, "spirits", etc after warm up. Couple of old boys down the road never did figure out what was wrong with that old Cadillac of theirs - just smoked and sputtered...
Trick is heat those old dual fuel tractors usually have shutters over the radiator. You'd run on gas with the shutters closed and preferably under load once basically overheated you can run on all sorts of stuff. You then could open the shutters if you keep a load on. But if you say finished plowing and let them idle they would cool off and foul the plugs out. Also if you stalled the engine you basically earned yourself draining a carb pulling and drying the plugs and a hard time with the crank.
Yeah sadly Guinness (records) is nothing but a marketing company they won't even give you the time of day if you don't pay them money of course they will "put you on the list" for them to show up they just never will they get calls from all over the world
During WW2, my dad ran a Plymouth pickup on kerosene, by coiling the kerosene intake line around the exhaust manifold to heat up the kerosene. A two way valve was just before the carb. He would start the truck on gasoline, then after a couple of minutes switch to kerosene. It ran, but not great. The reason for this was that we were rationed to 3 gallons of gasoline per week. No limit on kerosene. Got him thru the war. Wanna try that?
James Johnson My dads 1924 McCormick Deering 10-20 tractor has a small tank for gas and a large tank for kerosene. Once’s it’s warmed it up it could be switched over to kerosene but they haven’t use it in decades and just run straight gas in the large tank.
I used to own ford escort van, 1.8l diesel. I ran on cooking oil, rather than paying £1.28 a litre at the time for diesel I was paying 89p per litre for cooking oil. The van ran really well. In winter time when the temperature got colder I started using 50/50 of each mixed..it ran with no problems at all..
old friend of the family did that with his bike after ww2 when fuel was hard to get in NZ, had two tanks, small one for gasoline and one for kerosene, the kero line wrapped around the exhaust he had a simple valve to switch over when the kero was hot, in fact he ran in on a lot of different fuels, light oil ect
"Honey, the yard needs to be mowed again"... As few minutes later hears in the garage "Hi folks today we're going to be..." Later looks out the window sees flaming piece of cardboard burning on the lawn.
And that boys and girls is why you never use gas/petrol to help start a fire. Very volatile. Also burns off too quick so the wood doesn't actually catch on fire. Diesel is much slower and hotter and will catch wood on fire properly.
I thought coleman stove fuel was like diesel and tried to use it to start a campfire... DO NOT DO THAT!! I have no eyebrows to prove it... It's not slow burning... lol
I have no suggestion but just want to thank you for your very well made videos. Not only productionwise but also, and even more, methodically. It's so nice to see someone on UA-cam not only displaying content for maxing the number of viewers, but really exploring a topic. Maybe that comment doesn't fit to this specific video that much, but I just felt the urge to tell you this. Keep going on! All the best.
If you start on gas and get the engine hot, it will run fine on diesel. Old International tractors had a one gallon gas tank and a 20 gallon fuel tank. You started (and stopped!) on gas and when the temperature gauge came up turned a valve to switch. Some of the old Galion graders were the same.
Probably has a very high compression ratio and therefore can run on both... or has a low compression ratio for a diesel and therefore needs petrol to get going due to not having the compression and heat to cold start it on diesel... Which means it's a different kettle of fish (most likely)
International made gas/diesel engines. Basically a diesel engine with a decompression valve that would allow for gas combustion at lower cylinder pressures (150 psi) when the engine was warm you could close that valve which would raise pressures up to 500 psi, turn the diesel on and it would run up on Diesel.
I worked at a golf course one summer. One day one of workers filled diesel into one of the small machines (single cylinder gas engine - John Deere, I think) and realised only some 20 minutes later when engine lost some power and was producing lots of white smoke. Nevertheless engine run more less OK until it was shit down. It was impossible to restart it and fuel flushing was inevitable.
I suspect the mower would run on 50/50 anything (alcohol, water, ether) with the gasoline half doing the work, and the other half just vaporizing and coming along for the ride.
Multi fuel engines have a heated carb & carb bowl. I believe if you heat diesel or JET-A (more heat needed) up to the point their partial pressure (vaporization rate) is similar to gasoline they can work. Gasoline vaporizes at or slightly above room temp so it is vaporized by the time it is in the piston bore (heat of the engine is sufficient). Propane substitutes the carburetor for a regulator and a metered valve as it vaporizes when it returns to atmospheric pressure. The multi fuel engine I saw has a selector that adjusts the variable needle bore and the carb heat level based on the fuel you indicate is being used. For propane, you had to remove the carb and put on an adapter (same intake gasket and manifold bolt pattern. Not sure how the throttle cable worked)
The short answer is no. It is different viscosity and weight and would eventually destroy the components (especially gaskets and rings). There is a reason each 2 stroke must have a proper oil mix and there is not a lot of room for error if you want it to function properly and for a long life.
M18 Hellcat The Echo equipment uses 50:1 mix. But I gave up all gas equipment. Small gas mix engines such as small chain saw, weed eater, blower, hedge clippers all replaced by DEWALT 20 volt max or Flexvolt 60 v. I can’t believe how nice it is to just work every time. Same batteries as all my portable shop tools. I only have a gasoline engine for my power washer and as it is used maybe twice per year I drain the float bowl by removing the nut and run the tank dry and pour any gas left in the can into the car tank. I never store gas that way and have it go bad. When I need the washer it starts every time.
YEA FINALLY YOU DID MY REQUEST! And glad you took my 50/50 suggestion but I think you should of stated off and gave it a fair chance being a mix and prehaspe seeing a different result
Project Farm And glad you took my 50/50 suggestion but I think you should of stated off and gave it a fair chance being a mix and prehaspe seeing a different result
@@ProjectFarm im always intrigued by the ideas you come up with I beleive your calling is a consumer reports inspector ,,a idea for a episode is compare air framing nailers how far they shoot unrestricted and how much material they penetrate brand against brand,,,my framing NAILER goes up about 200 feet
I came here to finally have my lifelong question of can a gas engine run on diesel, and I come out learning that diesels don’t even use the typical spark plug. I’ve learned so much from this channel in the short amount of time after I found it, it’s quite amazing how much knowledge and skills you have.
Awesome video, thank you for taking the time to show how the two fuels are so different - especially the burning portion. The gas burned off/evaporated so quickly that it barely even scorched the cardboard.
I've watched you for years and enjoyed your content, but this particular episode seem to be uniquely informing. It also shows your deep understanding and knowledge that is always closed with your genuine humility. You're a man to be admired.
Old tractor engines like the model M series were started on gasoline to warm the engine up, and then run on kerosene. They used different intake manifolds though. Most were converted to run on straight gasoline, and a normal intake manifold is used. To get a low compression sparked engine to run on diesel or kerosene, you have to preheat the oncoming fuel/air mixture.
In the 50's international harvester had 2 tanks on their pickups one for gas the other for diesel and like you said once the engine was hot they would switch over to diesel,these engines had a unique design to the pistons
I've tried it and it burns clean only the engine life is shorter than normal because Hydrogen burns dry. Maybe on the engine I did it to it had a bad OHV (over head valve) because it was quite old.
You would need to spray fuel with the NOS to get any kind of boost. Otherwise the NOS will simply lean out the fuel mix and either overheat the exhaust valve and muffler, or just stall the engine.
Just found this channel. My father tried diesel in his Model A back in the depression, because it was much cheaper than gas. Didn't work. Had to drain the tank and put in gas(which was about 20 cents a gallon back then)! Oh, great videos. I'm hooked. Used to be a pretty good shade tree mechanic, but at 80, my back, neck and eyesight don't work like they did once. Hard to change my own oil anymore.
Thanks again, great video. In the 60's and 70's some would run a 90/10% gas diesel mix in gas engines. You could pick up an extra 1-2 MPG and diesel was cheaper than gas then. I was told it improved the octane but I don't know that is true. I ran the mix in small block GMs and it helped with mileage. The farmers would start their farm tractors on gas and then add kerosene and run all day on it.
Do pure Acetone, I've heard of people using it in small amounts for fuel system cleaning and I'd like to see the test. Also as a side comment, I need to move close to you so I can have a never ending lawn mower business.
im being genuine about this, i made a friction drive minibike and the 4 stroke motor on it uses rough equal ratios of Methanol, Acetone and methlayted spirits. runs about as good as it did before but the jet needed to be ever so slightly bigger.
even small amounts with the acetone will rapidly clean an engine and is safe for every day use I know I have used a cap full of acetone in a tank of gas lawn mower tank might be a quart the lawn mower had not been started in almost a year first I cranked the starter about 10 times to spread the oil as the oil was still in usable shape it was a quick favor the owner likely changed the oil later but it started up with in 5 pulls acetone does allot of really good things for an engine something I look forward to seeing in an upcoming clip
When i was a kid i have stolen abo 10 litre diesel fuel can from an abandoned house. I poured it all to my yamaha dt 125lc2 to see what will happen. Surprisingly it was running great, but only with choke and the engine was producing tons of white smoke. Love your videos, Project Farm!
4:58am laying in bed Her- “I bet he’s thinking about other girls” Me- “That’s a good question I wonder if you can run diesel fuel in a gas engine *clicks video*”
I have to say, every time one of your videos pops up I read the caption and say to myself, "Yeah, I'd like to know the answer to that". Thanks for the video's.
You sir are living my dream. I love nature (and hope to someday live on a property like your farm) and LOVE tinkering with stuff (like your endless projects that I love watching)! I know everyone has their struggles and all I see is what you post on youtube but it looks fun to me! 👍 Whenever I do any kind of project like you do, my wife would ask what I’m doing... so I’ll tell her and her response is usually something like “why would you waste your time on that?” With a look of confusion. My response is: “You wouldn’t understand!” I’m sure most of the people who watch this channel can relate!
Run one with just diesel in the crankcase. They say it lubricates some. See how long the engine will run on it and clean out the engine with it as well.
Great idea I used to run diesel in my crankcase of my 4-wheeler for 30 seconds at a time and then drain when I would sink it 😂it helped clean it and get all the water out
tyler alred yeah it works good for cleaning. I think it would be awesome to see it ran through a torture test to see how long it lasts and how it wears the engine
You really dig into some neat issues. I really like the direct, scientific way you do things. I was sure I knew what the diesel would do on the cardboard. In Nam, we put diesel in a coffee can and put a cork or piece of wood in the fuel. It was not real easy to light and would burn slowly for hours. It gave off a fair amount of light depending on the size of the wood. We had to anchor the can, because if you tip it over you would be in a hurt. The flame would spread pretty fast even with a dirt floor bunker. I didn't think a gas engine would run with 50/50 gas and diesel. Low compression is not what diesel needs but evidently there was enough gas to burn and get the diesel lit up. The large trucks we had in artillery used a six cylinder diesel engine that was referred to as multi fuel. Supposedly it could run on almost anything combustible. The motor pool sarge told us they showed him it could run on used engine oil if that was all you had. But it would slowly clog the rings so it was not for long term. We learned to take gas cans with us to fill our trucks. The guards would not let us put gasoline in the trucks due to a longevity issue. We filled the gas cans separately and then would stop and add the gas before running through a dangerous area where we sometimes were sniped at. That big 2 and a half ton truck could really scream on just 10% gasoline. The MP's would chase us because there was a speed limit in one spot. Really? That was where the snipers waited for us. So we blasted through there at full throttle, engine screaming. The MP's could not catch us with their little Jeep pretenders, they would get crooked in the loose sand by the beach and go sideways and get stuck. By the time they got dug out, we were gone. So, some diesels can run safely on various petrol products but it shortens the life if it is not properly refined diesel. My Jeep has a diesel that runs really well on vegetable oil. It's actually quieter. But even veggie oil needs to be processed to remove something called "esthers". If not removed that can cause clogging of the rings and injectors. I get my processed veggie oil at a co-op. Can't use more than 20% in winter or it can get gelled up and clog the fuel filter. IN summer I have ran 80% and the exhaust smells like someone deep frying french fries. Pull up to a light where people have windows down and they start looking around wondering where the smell is coming from. One time out of ten cars at the light three of them pulled into a McDonalds about three blocks ahead LOL
Technically you could use any flamable liquid or gas in petrol engine. The parts (hoses, seals, etc) being able to handle it is another matter though. Some things will eat the fuel system and even weaken the metal parts inside the engine.
I work for A bus company when one of our buses was refilled with petrol the boss who knew I was short of cash offered me the fuel from the bus which was about 30% diesel and I further reduced it to about 15%, worked well just running around town but when I headed up the hill out of town I laid down A smoke screen that would have put James Bond to shame. My guess is that the diesel was getting past the rings and building up in the sump when I drained the sump I got about 8 litres from it that is about double what should have been in theirs.
Norman Lesley This is really bad on modern cars. It will wreck the oxygen sensor in the exhaust, and the excess fuel (evidenced by the smoke) will begin burning in the catalytic converter and cause it to melt down.
As an experiment, I added 50-50 mix of tiki fuel and gas to my old mower. It ran OK, but whenever there was a load on the engine due to tall grass, you could hear a loud, metallic pinging due to pre-detonation. I ran it like this for over 30 minutes and did not notice any engine damage.
Actually, liquid gasoline won't burn, only the fumes will. That is a well known fact. There was a book out years ago called The Secrets of the 200 mph carburetor and getting 100% evaporation was the key to all of them, just they accomplished it in different ways. I experimented with a 72 Plymouth with a 318ci engine and went from 18mpg to 30mpg. I just didn't have the ability to get 100% evaporation with what I had to work with.
look up Tom Ogle. only true documented >100mpg from a normal engine- risky, as basically no carburetor, more or less a butterfly on the gas fill pipe was the 'throttle', and piping resulted in air bubbling thru the gas tank - low vapor pressure made it ice up, he put heater cores in the tank, made the tank extremely heavy to prevent collapse from engine vacuum, and ran the stock engine(400 Cleveland if i remember right) off open pipe(no throttle) to top of the tank...air/fuel mix in the tank means a backfire would be extremely bad type of explosion, but it did work. a guy named Pogue built a vapor setup by boiling fuel in a tube thru exhaust manifold- think in 1930s
Great vid, very informative. Thanks. A while back I had about 20 litres of gas/diesel mix from a mis-fuelling cleanup. I added it about 5 litres at a time to a nearly full tank of diesel on my mitsubishi L200 just to dispose of it and get something back for the expenditure. Experienced no problems at all. A friend said that early diesels used to run on a lean gas mix in the winter to prevent waxing. Don't know how true this is.
That’s what use to start my old 2-stroke outboard😂 needs new condenser and points but it works without tiring my arm from pulling a rope in the middle of the lake
You do a great job and I really enjoy watching all of the videos you make. I appreciate all the time and effort you put in to make the best experiment. Great job!👨🏼✈️
@Daniel did you know this thief, in today's courts he could SUE you for ruining his vehicle and get damages for not having tank labled the thief had more rights than us
@@Dongonzales123 Honestly I don't think it is. He said "he could SUE you for ruining his vehicle" which doesn't make sense because the thief didn't even own the vehicle in question.
He wins the Captain Dumbass award.. 99% of farm equipment runs on diesel, off road diesel in fact, so stealing diesel for his gas powered vehicle shows how little he knew about fuels.
A guy in the news a few years back was getting his mailboxes hit and knocked over by local teens, he put some cement in the box and stuck it out there for them after it dried and they hit it with a bat, bat came back and knocked their teeth out, guy got took to court and had to pay some on their teeth getting them fixed........so if you purposely do something to cause damage and can be proved......may be liable for the damage
One Brothers Productions yea that's what I always use but remember diesel is harder to get started. I like throw diesel on it then throw a little gas on the diesel fuel to get it started.
It could work, two stroke gassers are higher compression, but I think the quench would be too great for proper ignition, just like we saw here. Two stroke diesels on the other hand....
Accidentally put diesel in a snowmobile, got as much out as I could, but it smoked really bad. Took it riding, and it broke both pistons into little bits. Pretty crazy
so..great video! I actually took the diesel atomizer out of a failed "Chinese Parking heater" and put a sleeve and gasket and press fit it a lawnmower in place of carb. It actually ran great! I advanced timing a little by moving the magnetic pickup (diesel is best at about 20 degrees advance) and next going to try shaving the head--to get compression up a bit--with a spark plug though--not really necessary. This is a summer project...lol BTW--I think a great test would be to test the various 2k, 5k, and 8k diesel heaters. I use one in my workshop and they are getting to be common---but lots of quality difference and I am convinced that the 8k is just a 5k relabeled! Love your UA-cam channel--keep up the great work!! If you're not familiar---just do a search on Amazon or ebay.
Project Farm you should try getting an engine to run on bug spray or hair spray some sort of spray system for the intake to get it in there to stay running if it would even run.
when I was a kid the old boys that ran log trucks in our area used to add 3-5 gallons of gas to each of their tanks of diesel in the winter time when it snowed. Just FYI They told me when I asked that the gas helped keep the diesel warm in the tanks till summer. I thought that was, and still is a good answer.
This was to prevent jelling of yhe diesel fuel in cold temperatures. Back before diesel was premixed - winter fuel - I'd mix it 50/50 with kerosene. Not many stations carry kerosene anymore. I'm sure gasoline was nearly as good. Still you would see a few semi trucks from the south on the side of the road in below zero temp in Minnesota stopped because of fuel gelling.
I did the same thing once. Someone had filled a gas can with deisel and I didn't realize it because I smelt like deisel (work truck is deisel). Needless to say I used it and after maybe 20 km, it started surging and kicking bad. It also had 0 power. I went straight to a friend's place for a hand because at the time I didn't know exactly the issue. That was until, we seen all the excess oil coming from the exhaust. I pumped the tank empty, refilled, added injection cleaner and it purred like a kity right away.
it won't gain any just the ratio will incrase say 8to1 will become 9to 1 look into re clearanceing the valves to take out comp release on all flat head Briggs the intake valve don't close completely till the piston is 2/3 of the way up the stroke you will then brake pull ropes and snap flywheel keys guaranteed
Avery Jones . I tried this on my push mower with overhead valves. I shaved .020 off the head, installed it and readjusted the valve lash. No noticeable difference. I then opened up the fuel jet hole a few thousandths (don’t enlarge to much) this did seem to make it perform a bit stronger...
@@TheDeadMan3848 you have to adjust the timing of the valve s to take out overlap and to make the vaulve close sooner take the intake tappet and shave 20 thou off it and re adjust valves then tell me what happens
Avery Jones , I am not sure is it has intake tappets, it has pushrods with the camshaft in the block , I don’t think it would change anything, the valve will still open at the same time ?
Would like to see if ATF + Engine oil works as a carbon cleaner. I've always heard you can add ATF to your cars engine to clean out the oil sludge. ATF + Gasoline would be an interesting test as well.
Works,but be very careful.best time to mix A.T.F into your engine oil is just before an oil change.Then run the engine about an hour or so,then change the oil and filter.Also watch carefully the next couple days for the next couple days,if the fresh oil starts turning black or looking dirty change it again.At least that is the way it worked out for me but it did free up some sticky hydrulic lifters.
@Chris Farley engine temp needs to reach 190-200 degrees for the diesel fuel to thin out enough to be ignited by a spark plug. John Deere did this in the early two cylinder tractors so farmers didnt have to burn expensive gasoline when " tractor fuel" was only half the cost of gasoline. I have actually ran my '46 model A John Deere on #2 diesel during an antique tractor pull.
His test method wouldn't provide a good conclusion because it would run, but you'd have to run it LONG term to see the effect on engine seals/hoses/primer/carb/etc.
e85 has an issue of being hygroscopic so over time or in high humidity it starts to gel unless you use special additives... It's why so many boaters in Florida got pissed when they switched even to e10. It started gunking up their engines and clogging fuel lines
I did a similar test on the 2 stroke engines(chainsaw and weed eater), diesel works just fine on them, possibly even providing more power than gas but it is a bit harder to start and maybe not as stable on low rpm. there is more smoke than when you use gasoline but 2 stroke engine requires adding oil and it emits some smoke anyway. so in the end I now use diesel (with gasoline) as normal fule tor those engines
Several people claim that if you add a second gas tank to put diesel in and switch over to that tank after the motor is hot that it will work. Could you do a test and see?
The reason you had to pump the primer bulb on diesel is that the carburetor is designed for gasoline, the diesel is much more viscous and the jet and siphon effect is tuned for gasoline, with some tinkering it might actually run on straight diesel..... Might
I agree. Project farm try tuning the carburator to run on deisel then try this test again. It should have more power if you can get it to run smoothly on deisel fuel.
There's no way it will run on straight diesel. A lawn mower engine has low compression and it will not produce enough heat to light the diesel fuel. I doubt that it would run on diesel even after being warmed up on gasoline. With the 50/50 mix there was enough gasoline there that the spark plug could light the mixture.
I believe the reason it ran with diesel in the tank is the carb. bowl still had gas in it and it started and the gas was getting diluted with diesel and the primer was supplying enough gas to keep it going then it got to the point that there was too much diesel and the spark plug would not light the diesel and the engine stopped.
I unknowingly added diesel to my lawn tractor once, and noticed it knocked a little and puffed a slight bit of black smoke when under heavy load. It wouldn't start the next time I tried to use it. I realized I mixed up fuel cans with my dad at some point and used his diesel. Drain carb and tank, refill, no problem. Starting it on the gasoline still in the carb and with the engine warming up, the diesel/gas mixed worked until it was shut off and cooled down.
There were some old army deuce and a half that would run on whatever you could put in there tanks I dare you to look that up dude half ton army trucks that could run on literally any fuel including gasoline diesel or kerosene The engine was called Hercules multi fuel
Because mothballs were once used to boost the octane of gasoline. Though it wasn't the low octane of the diesel that kept the mower from running, it was its poor atomization qualities.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Actually it's a little bit true. Diesel needs pressure and heat to burn. Diesel gets pressure from injection, since carburators aren't pressurized, then only the combustion chamber can deliver some. But can't forget about the point that gas engines can't have as much pressure as a diesel engine since the gasoline would ignite itself and cause engine knocking. Although you can bring a gas engine to run with it (partially) when the engine's hot enough
WOW! Mind Blown. These Idea, Are out way in the out field. But I have to give it to you. Your willingness to put these ideas to the test. WOW! More power to you.
air to fuel mix in a petrol engine is about 15parts air 1 part fuel in a diesel engine it can be up to 70/1 so basicly if u preheat it like in a regular diesel it wouldent spit out unburned fuel ( the white smoke ) it would hawe 3 to 4 times as much energy so it would probably blow the gasket or the head itself i m not shure but i m 80% positive older diesels with a stronger mix like 30/1 are well known for blowing up head gaskets turbos aspecialy
Ernie all you have to do is have the engine warmed up and then fill with the diesel/stove oil/ kerosene and they will run fine !!! Have done it for years!!! Diesel will ignite with a spark plug !!!!
Spark ignited diesel requires a hot engine. Until the '50s, farm tractors were designed to run on "distillate," which was not standardized. An old John Deere B crawler we had started fine on gasoline, then switched to stove oil when it was hot. The stove oil gave more power from the engine and ran hotter, thanks to the higher carbon content. At shutdown, you switched back to gas to purge the fuel line and carb.
Yeah but higher octane doesnt mean more power, octane levels being higher reduce preignition and engine knock, the higher compression ration there is the more preignition and detonation can happen, so the higher octane gas deals with that.
Diesel isn't rated in Octane, but it is known to be harder to ignite than gasoline. This is a gasoline engine. Trying to make the diesel fuel harder to ignite will just make it worse.
I understand that it glazes the cylinder walls and mucks with the rings and thereby the compression of the motor. It's like crack to a diesel is what I've been told.
Using too much on any engine can cause damage to cylinder walls cause it dries them out. And a constant spray of it will over rev any engine. The biggest reason everyone thinks it’s bad for a diesel is glow plugs. If they’re still on or hot enough it’ll cause pre ignition and can crack pistons / bend rods. Grid heater engine shouldn’t have any issues.
@@Dirtyol12valve some diesel engines come with starting fluid injection to start them in the cold. Works fine just don't plan to run them on the starting fluid or use starting fluid and glow plugs at the same time.
I am looking for a diesel generator, since I have left over heating oil in a tank from the furnace that was just replaced. I was told that I might be able to use the heating oil for this purpose. I found this video very informative.
Well this weekend while trying to get a tiller motor running for a goKart my buddy accidentally put 2-stroke gas in the 4 stroke motor and it did not want to stay running
Project Farm That'd be a great test. Your 50/50 run in this video definitely has me thinking. Diesel in my country is not taxed at the pump like gas (a separate road tax is paid) so is almost 1/2 the price of gas!
Project Farm Hey man I've been wondering if engine coolant can clean the carbon build up inside of the engine not sure if you'll read this but if you do that could be an idea
151 is too high of water content, secondly it wouldn't get enough "fuel" and melt down/through the piston and head fast :) with near 100% alcohol it's possible, but the carburetor would need to flow around 3x more fuel, start out rich and slowly lean it back, monitoring via exhaust gas temp "pyrometer" straight alcohol has been used in racing for years, the fumes are rather noxious, you don't want to breathe them much, racers normally add liquid scent to the alcohol, they'll go by leaving bubble gum, cotton candy or other various scents :)
Diesel fuel needs to be atomized to combust whereas gasoline just evaporates at low temperatures and the vapor is combustible. That's why we never had carbuerated diesels. I wonder if maybe the gasoline was carrying the diesel when it evaporated or if the burning gasoline was heating the diesel up to IT'S vapor point, causing the diesel to ignite. I would like to see (and I might do it on my own) gasoline mixed 50/50 with diesel and set out over night to test this. If half of the mixture was left in the morning, we can be fairly certain the gasoline evaporated off, leaving the diesel fuel alone whi h eould mean the heat from the burning gas was evaporating and burning the diesel. If less than half remained, we would know that at least some of the diesel was being carried with the gasoline.. The other thing I would like to se (but this would be dificult) is is a small engine could run if a proper diesel injector and fuel pump were added. This would tell us whether ATOMIZED diesel was capable of being ignited with a spark. If that were the case, it would be interesting to see the difference in the burn characteristica.
You are wrong on several points. Every hear of tractor fuel. It was basically fuel oil somewhere between k1 and #2 diesel. Start on gas and once the carb was hot switch. So yes there were carbarated engines that ran on diesel. Every hear of JP-4 or 5. Military use it in every thing. Diesel,Gas and Jet engines.
@@brianpatrick8787 I must cry BS here. Tha military uses JP 5 in compression combustion and turbine engines. These are injected engines, not carbuerated engines. The same is true of their use of JP 4, although JP-4 might actually run a traditional spark ignition engine since it is a 50/50 blend of gasoline and a diesel-like fuel. It wouldn't run very well though and would lead to a lot of carbon buildup over time. The few engines the military has that are regular gasoline engines are filled with and run off of gasoline. As far as tractor fuel is concerned, it was much closer to kerosene (a shorter HC chain) than diesel fuel and if hot enough, would readily evaporate and burn once a spark ignited it.
At least you got the lawnmower started with diesel, I can't even get it to run on Gasoline.
@B Brunson I bought an electric mower and solid with the house when we decided to go RVing!...Yea!!
Ethanol was in the gas
@B Brunson No more gas fumes, hm? How about the power plant that's hooked up to your mower's battery charger?
Lol so true spend many a moment cursing when they just won’t start up
That's funny!
Someone was stealing gas from an old Farmall tractor of my Dad's. He filled the main tank with diesel fuel. (They had a second tank which could be used for gasoline to start on, then could be switched to kerosene, "spirits", etc after warm up. Couple of old boys down the road never did figure out what was wrong with that old Cadillac of theirs - just smoked and sputtered...
lol. Nice!
So much for a car owner. Bet he barely pay attention when stealing gas.
Someone was stealing gas out of our boat so my dad left a cannister with gas and sugar mix, and they stole it and put it on their boat😂😂
@@SIGJAMS serves them! :D
Trick is heat those old dual fuel tractors usually have shutters over the radiator. You'd run on gas with the shutters closed and preferably under load once basically overheated you can run on all sorts of stuff. You then could open the shutters if you keep a load on. But if you say finished plowing and let them idle they would cool off and foul the plugs out. Also if you stalled the engine you basically earned yourself draining a carb pulling and drying the plugs and a hard time with the crank.
Don't ever stop these man...they are such great videos
Thank you!
AMEN to AMERICA
@@ProjectFarm on a later posted comment the uploader still responds. Respect to you.
I think the Guinness book of records need to be notified about this lawn mower 😁
lol. Great point!
Yeah sadly Guinness (records) is nothing but a marketing company they won't even give you the time of day if you don't pay them money of course they will "put you on the list" for them to show up they just never will they get calls from all over the world
During WW2, my dad ran a Plymouth pickup on kerosene, by coiling the kerosene intake line around the exhaust manifold to heat up the kerosene. A two way valve was just before the carb. He would start the truck on gasoline, then after a couple of minutes switch to kerosene. It ran, but not great.
The reason for this was that we were rationed to 3 gallons of gasoline per week. No limit on kerosene. Got him thru the war.
Wanna try that?
James Johnson thats pretty badass actually, good story right there
Ingenious.
James Johnson My dads 1924 McCormick Deering 10-20 tractor has a small tank for gas and a large tank for kerosene. Once’s it’s warmed it up it could be switched over to kerosene but they haven’t use it in decades and just run straight gas in the large tank.
I used to own ford escort van, 1.8l diesel. I ran on cooking oil, rather than paying £1.28 a litre at the time for diesel I was paying 89p per litre for cooking oil. The van ran really well. In winter time when the temperature got colder I started using 50/50 of each mixed..it ran with no problems at all..
old friend of the family did that with his bike after ww2 when fuel was hard to get in NZ, had two tanks, small one for gasoline and one for kerosene, the kero line wrapped around the exhaust he had a simple valve to switch over when the kero was hot, in fact he ran in on a lot of different fuels, light oil ect
"Honey, the yard needs to be mowed again"...
As few minutes later hears in the garage "Hi folks today we're going to be..."
Later looks out the window sees flaming piece of cardboard burning on the lawn.
🤣
Lmfao I could imagine it
@@DonisGP good thing he keeps his hair short..
@@skyhawk470 lmfao
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And that boys and girls is why you never use gas/petrol to help start a fire. Very volatile. Also burns off too quick so the wood doesn't actually catch on fire.
Diesel is much slower and hotter and will catch wood on fire properly.
Great point!
Just do not add any additional fuel once it is lit. A friend of mine did with diesel it ignited and burned him on the face and hands pretty bad.
I use kerosene. It burns even slower and hotter than diesel and works very very well.
True
I thought coleman stove fuel was like diesel and tried to use it to start a campfire... DO NOT DO THAT!! I have no eyebrows to prove it... It's not slow burning... lol
I have no suggestion but just want to thank you for your very well made videos. Not only productionwise but also, and even more, methodically. It's so nice to see someone on UA-cam not only displaying content for maxing the number of viewers, but really exploring a topic. Maybe that comment doesn't fit to this specific video that much, but I just felt the urge to tell you this. Keep going on! All the best.
Thank you so much!
If you start on gas and get the engine hot, it will run fine on diesel. Old International tractors had a one gallon gas tank and a 20 gallon fuel tank. You started (and stopped!) on gas and when the temperature gauge came up turned a valve to switch. Some of the old Galion graders were the same.
Thanks for commenting on this.
We actually have one of them up at my cabin! they are really cool, outs is a old bull dozer
Probably has a very high compression ratio and therefore can run on both... or has a low compression ratio for a diesel and therefore needs petrol to get going due to not having the compression and heat to cold start it on diesel... Which means it's a different kettle of fish (most likely)
International made gas/diesel engines. Basically a diesel engine with a decompression valve that would allow for gas combustion at lower cylinder pressures (150 psi) when the engine was warm you could close that valve which would raise pressures up to 500 psi, turn the diesel on and it would run up on Diesel.
I worked at a golf course one summer. One day one of workers filled diesel into one of the small machines (single cylinder gas engine - John Deere, I think) and realised only some 20 minutes later when engine lost some power and was producing lots of white smoke. Nevertheless engine run more less OK until it was shit down. It was impossible to restart it and fuel flushing was inevitable.
This is 1 of 5 sites where I click the like button before I even watch it.
Thanks so much!
Vicegrip garage is another.
This and ChrisFix
Wonder if the 50/50 mix improved your "grass-mileage" ?
LOL!
This is pure gold!
So punny
Yeah thats good question, i want to wee that
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Great job I was surprised how well the mower ran on the 50/50 good to know 🙏
Thank you!
I suspect the mower would run on 50/50 anything (alcohol, water, ether) with the gasoline half doing the work, and the other half just vaporizing and coming along for the ride.
I’d be curious as to how efficient the 50/50 mix is vs. the straight gasoline! Love your videos lol
Multi fuel engines have a heated carb & carb bowl. I believe if you heat diesel or JET-A (more heat needed) up to the point their partial pressure (vaporization rate) is similar to gasoline they can work. Gasoline vaporizes at or slightly above room temp so it is vaporized by the time it is in the piston bore (heat of the engine is sufficient). Propane substitutes the carburetor for a regulator and a metered valve as it vaporizes when it returns to atmospheric pressure. The multi fuel engine I saw has a selector that adjusts the variable needle bore and the carb heat level based on the fuel you indicate is being used. For propane, you had to remove the carb and put on an adapter (same intake gasket and manifold bolt pattern. Not sure how the throttle cable worked)
Used 50/50 for lawn tractor. Started knock burning especially when hot and under load
Since diesel is oily, would a two stroke run on that 50/50 mix without needing to add oil to the gas? Would it seize?
Oikomi Infaccia good question. Merits a response ithink
The same question I came here to ask. Not holding my breath waiting for an answer.
The short answer is no. It is different viscosity and weight and would eventually destroy the components (especially gaskets and rings). There is a reason each 2 stroke must have a proper oil mix and there is not a lot of room for error if you want it to function properly and for a long life.
@ coyote311 that makes sense sir. I suppose they would have different flash and combustion rates as well as pressure tolerances... ty sir
M18 Hellcat The Echo equipment uses 50:1 mix. But I gave up all gas equipment. Small gas mix engines such as small chain saw, weed eater, blower, hedge clippers all replaced by DEWALT 20 volt max or Flexvolt 60 v. I can’t believe how nice it is to just work every time. Same batteries as all my portable shop tools. I only have a gasoline engine for my power washer and as it is used maybe twice per year I drain the float bowl by removing the nut and run the tank dry and pour any gas left in the can into the car tank. I never store gas that way and have it go bad. When I need the washer it starts every time.
I watched this video 3 years ago and just watched it again! Excellent video!
Thanks so much!
YEA FINALLY YOU DID MY REQUEST! And glad you took my 50/50 suggestion but I think you should of stated off and gave it a fair chance being a mix and prehaspe seeing a different result
Thank you for this suggestion! Hope you enjoy the video!
Project Farm And glad you took my 50/50 suggestion but I think you should of stated off and gave it a fair chance being a mix and prehaspe seeing a different result
momo3369 THEN LETS GET THIS COMMWNT TO THE TOP
Джейсон Хичкок , think you need to eat a snickers... #hangry
This lawn mower must have PTSD considering all it’s been through. Poor mower😂
lol Thanks for watching.
Project Farm: "Do lawn mower's develop psychological problems? LET'S FIND OUT!!"
@@jeffa847 lol 😂
Try it the other way round: Run a diesel engine with gas!
Thank you for the video idea!
Probably won’t start up, two very different liquids lol
Well, diesels don't have spark plugs. If I'm right, they compress the fuel until it explodes. I doubt gas can do it.
@Cole Copsey yes u are, that’s why the engines are so big, it compresses the fuel enough to cause an explosion
Bye bye injection pump.
Instead of NOS, inject gunpowder for added performance
"Please do not attempt this!" That's why I'm watching the video!!
lol. Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm im always intrigued by the ideas you come up with I beleive your calling is a consumer reports inspector ,,a idea for a episode is compare air framing nailers how far they shoot unrestricted and how much material they penetrate brand against brand,,,my framing NAILER goes up about 200 feet
Yea really.lol
@@donborg1408 A Consumer Reports inspector would be a severe downgrade and cause much less thorough testing methods to be used.
I came here to finally have my lifelong question of can a gas engine run on diesel, and I come out learning that diesels don’t even use the typical spark plug. I’ve learned so much from this channel in the short amount of time after I found it, it’s quite amazing how much knowledge and skills you have.
Thanks fo rthe feedback.
Wow the POS test mower actually does still cut grass. Love the channel😉
Thanks 👍
These are seriously the best videos on UA-cam. What a great guy. 👍
Wow, thanks!
Awesome video, thank you for taking the time to show how the two fuels are so different - especially the burning portion. The gas burned off/evaporated so quickly that it barely even scorched the cardboard.
Thank you!
*gas...OLINE
I've watched you for years and enjoyed your content, but this particular episode seem to be uniquely informing. It also shows your deep understanding and knowledge that is always closed with your genuine humility. You're a man to be admired.
Thanks!
Old tractor engines like the model M series were started on gasoline to warm the engine up, and then run on kerosene. They used different intake manifolds though. Most were converted to run on straight gasoline, and a normal intake manifold is used. To get a low compression sparked engine to run on diesel or kerosene, you have to preheat the oncoming fuel/air mixture.
Great information! Thank you
In the 50's international harvester had 2 tanks on their pickups one for gas the other for diesel and like you said once the engine was hot they would switch over to diesel,these engines had a unique design to the pistons
@@ProjectFarm i love your shows watch all i can enjoy your Christmas and your family
Have you ever compared wiper blades? Durability, resistance to UV, ability to conform to a surface, cost?
Really appreciate your time on these tests!
Yes, here's the video. ua-cam.com/video/g3S8udUSKtY/v-deo.html
2020 is nothing compared to what that small engine has been thru
Keep up the great videos!👍
Thanks 👍
This is probably the most profitable video about lawn mowing ever.
Thanks!
Like if you wanna see Project Farm run mower on hydrogen.
Yea with the mower that runs on vapors
Maybe even produce its own...
Yes see if it will run on hydrogen
I've tried it and it burns clean only the engine life is shorter than normal because Hydrogen burns dry. Maybe on the engine I did it to it had a bad OHV (over head valve) because it was quite old.
@@americangunsmith9951 what kind of a setup did you have to create that much hydrogen consistently?
3:27 “ hey, since it’s running may as well get some use out of it “ two birds with one stone type of moment.
lol. Thank you
spray nos while its running. would it destroy the engine ? that would be cool
Thanks for this video idea!
Alex Ramos diabloformularacing did this with a go-kart
Anthony Mason RIP Leroy Jr.!!
Samsung Galaxy S7 will have to get the mad scientist to replace the Piston rings you fried. Lol fast and the furious reference.
You would need to spray fuel with the NOS to get any kind of boost. Otherwise the NOS will simply lean out the fuel mix and either overheat the exhaust valve and muffler, or just stall the engine.
Just found this channel. My father tried diesel in his Model A back in the depression, because it was much cheaper than gas. Didn't work. Had to drain the tank and put in gas(which was about 20 cents a gallon back then)!
Oh, great videos. I'm hooked. Used to be a pretty good shade tree mechanic, but at 80, my back, neck and eyesight don't work like they did once. Hard to change my own oil anymore.
Welcome and thanks for watching!
Thanks again, great video. In the 60's and 70's some would run a 90/10% gas diesel mix in gas engines. You could pick up an extra 1-2 MPG and diesel was cheaper than gas then. I was told it improved the octane but I don't know that is true. I ran the mix in small block GMs and it helped with mileage. The farmers would start their farm tractors on gas and then add kerosene and run all day on it.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Do pure Acetone, I've heard of people using it in small amounts for fuel system cleaning and I'd like to see the test. Also as a side comment, I need to move close to you so I can have a never ending lawn mower business.
Thanks for the video project idea! Never ending lawn mower business comment...LOL! Thanks again!
Acetone is the main ingredient in Diesel Purge, which I just used to clean up the fuel system on my V10 TDI.
im being genuine about this, i made a friction drive minibike and the 4 stroke motor on it uses rough equal ratios of Methanol, Acetone and methlayted spirits. runs about as good as it did before but the jet needed to be ever so slightly bigger.
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even small amounts with the acetone will rapidly clean an engine and is safe for every day use I know I have used a cap full of acetone in a tank of gas lawn mower tank might be a quart the lawn mower had not been started in almost a year first I cranked the starter about 10 times to spread the oil as the oil was still in usable shape it was a quick favor the owner likely changed the oil later but it started up with in 5 pulls acetone does allot of really good things for an engine something I look forward to seeing in an upcoming clip
Diesel looks like Mtn Dew
Trucker fuel
And off road diesel looks like code red mtn dew 😂
@John Mellor yeaaa they get pissy about it. 😂
@@jamesburton4986 in the uk we have red deisel and only tractors and farm machinery can use it because it is taxed less
Except if you drink it you would die and you will throw up
When i was a kid i have stolen abo 10 litre diesel fuel can from an abandoned house. I poured it all to my yamaha dt 125lc2 to see what will happen. Surprisingly it was running great, but only with choke and the engine was producing tons of white smoke. Love your videos, Project Farm!
Thank you!
Those poor little moths had no idea they would be castrated to make your video.
LOL
When you smell moth balls, do you hold them by the leg, or the wing? lol
Bwas hahaha
Robert by the short hairs
Lol
Clicked so fast lol love the vids man!!!
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
Джейсон Хичкок your a big ole bitch quit hating on this man Bc he's just making money on UA-cam and your not
Berleezy's Ass who tf is berleezy lmao
koosh look him up lmaoo
Berleezy's Ass i just did and im confused on why you would find a pic of his ass and name yourself after it lmfao😂😂😂😂
4:58am laying in bed
Her- “I bet he’s thinking about other girls”
Me- “That’s a good question I wonder if you can run diesel fuel in a gas engine *clicks video*”
I have to say, every time one of your videos pops up I read the caption and say to myself, "Yeah, I'd like to know the answer to that". Thanks for the video's.
That is awesome! You are welcome!
That poor poor engine is always getting abused. ;(
But its still ticking.
Wife: you need to mow the lawn
Him: might as well find something out and make some money out of it 🤷🏻♂️
I'm thumper from Bambi
(thumps wall with left foot on wall)
A hp and torque test for 100% gasoline vs 50/50 gas and diesel would be interesting
You sir are living my dream. I love nature (and hope to someday live on a property like your farm) and LOVE tinkering with stuff (like your endless projects that I love watching)!
I know everyone has their struggles and all I see is what you post on youtube but it looks fun to me! 👍 Whenever I do any kind of project like you do, my wife would ask what I’m doing... so I’ll tell her and her response is usually something like “why would you waste your time on that?” With a look of confusion. My response is: “You wouldn’t understand!” I’m sure most of the people who watch this channel can relate!
Thanks Hope you will get to live on a farm!
Run one with just diesel in the crankcase. They say it lubricates some. See how long the engine will run on it and clean out the engine with it as well.
Thanks for this video project idea!
Great idea I used to run diesel in my crankcase of my 4-wheeler for 30 seconds at a time and then drain when I would sink it 😂it helped clean it and get all the water out
tyler alred yeah it works good for cleaning. I think it would be awesome to see it ran through a torture test to see how long it lasts and how it wears the engine
This new ultra-low sulfur diesel has nowhere near the lubricity of the old stuff.
Id love to see this! I've always heard of it but I don't want to try it on my own stuff.
You really dig into some neat issues. I really like the direct, scientific way you do things. I was sure I knew what the diesel would do on the cardboard.
In Nam, we put diesel in a coffee can and put a cork or piece of wood in the fuel. It was not real easy to light and would burn slowly for hours. It gave off a fair amount of light depending on the size of the wood. We had to anchor the can, because if you tip it over you would be in a hurt. The flame would spread pretty fast even with a dirt floor bunker.
I didn't think a gas engine would run with 50/50 gas and diesel. Low compression is not what diesel needs but evidently there was enough gas to burn and get the diesel lit up.
The large trucks we had in artillery used a six cylinder diesel engine that was referred to as multi fuel. Supposedly it could run on almost anything combustible. The motor pool sarge told us they showed him it could run on used engine oil if that was all you had. But it would slowly clog the rings so it was not for long term. We learned to take gas cans with us to fill our trucks. The guards would not let us put gasoline in the trucks due to a longevity issue. We filled the gas cans separately and then would stop and add the gas before running through a dangerous area where we sometimes were sniped at. That big 2 and a half ton truck could really scream on just 10% gasoline. The MP's would chase us because there was a speed limit in one spot. Really? That was where the snipers waited for us. So we blasted through there at full throttle, engine screaming. The MP's could not catch us with their little Jeep pretenders, they would get crooked in the loose sand by the beach and go sideways and get stuck. By the time they got dug out, we were gone.
So, some diesels can run safely on various petrol products but it shortens the life if it is not properly refined diesel. My Jeep has a diesel that runs really well on vegetable oil. It's actually quieter. But even veggie oil needs to be processed to remove something called "esthers". If not removed that can cause clogging of the rings and injectors. I get my processed veggie oil at a co-op. Can't use more than 20% in winter or it can get gelled up and clog the fuel filter. IN summer I have ran 80% and the exhaust smells like someone deep frying french fries. Pull up to a light where people have windows down and they start looking around wondering where the smell is coming from. One time out of ten cars at the light three of them pulled into a McDonalds about three blocks ahead LOL
Thank you!
@Mike B LOL @ the MP story - And thank you for your service... *salutes*
Can you run an engine on straight octane booster?
This is a great question. I'll definitely test this soon. Thanks for this idea!
Crystian Bunker I would like to see that too!
Technically you could use any flamable liquid or gas in petrol engine. The parts (hoses, seals, etc) being able to handle it is another matter though. Some things will eat the fuel system and even weaken the metal parts inside the engine.
I'm gonna say no, but want to see it tried!
I've tried it and the answer is no.
This video is old 2 years and this man's still hearting comments, dedication it is called
Thanks for watching!
I work for A bus company when one of our buses was refilled with petrol the boss who knew I was short of cash offered me the fuel from the bus which was about 30% diesel and I further reduced it to about 15%, worked well just running around town but when I headed up the hill out of town I laid down A smoke screen that would have put James Bond to shame.
My guess is that the diesel was getting past the rings and building up in the sump when I drained the sump I got about 8 litres from it that is about double what should have been in theirs.
This is interesting. It does sound like diesel made it past the rings. Thanks for commenting!
Norman Lesley I bet your engine was clean afterwards if what they say about deisel's cleaning ability is true
Yes and no the broken oil rings on the back cylinder negated any good dun.
Norman Lesley
This is really bad on modern cars. It will wreck the oxygen sensor in the exhaust, and the excess fuel (evidenced by the smoke) will begin burning in the catalytic converter and cause it to melt down.
Will it run on tiki torch fuel?
Ill bet Hillary will burn with tiki fuel. Soros too.
Mac Ten lmao, typical Trumptard. Instantly deflects to Hillary.
But HILLARY!
But muh emails!
As an experiment, I added 50-50 mix of tiki fuel and gas to my old mower. It ran OK, but whenever there was a load on the engine due to tall grass, you could hear a loud, metallic pinging due to pre-detonation. I ran it like this for over 30 minutes and did not notice any engine damage.
Andrew Moore can you make a video? That would be awesome!
What happened to those emails i wonder.
Can you please try running it on Gas Fumes, that would be interesting.
Thank you for this video project idea!
Actually, liquid gasoline won't burn, only the fumes will. That is a well known fact. There was a book out years ago called The Secrets of the 200 mph carburetor and getting 100% evaporation was the key to all of them, just they accomplished it in different ways. I experimented with a 72 Plymouth with a 318ci engine and went from 18mpg to 30mpg. I just didn't have the ability to get 100% evaporation with what I had to work with.
look up Tom Ogle. only true documented >100mpg from a normal engine- risky, as basically no carburetor, more or less a butterfly on the gas fill pipe was the 'throttle', and piping resulted in air bubbling thru the gas tank - low vapor pressure made it ice up, he put heater cores in the tank, made the tank extremely heavy to prevent collapse from engine vacuum, and ran the stock engine(400 Cleveland if i remember right) off open pipe(no throttle) to top of the tank...air/fuel mix in the tank means a backfire would be extremely bad type of explosion, but it did work. a guy named Pogue built a vapor setup by boiling fuel in a tube thru exhaust manifold- think in 1930s
The original Fordson tractor ran on pretty much anything by vaporizing the fuel using the exhaust manifold.
Great vid, very informative. Thanks. A while back I had about 20 litres of gas/diesel mix from a mis-fuelling cleanup. I added it about 5 litres at a time to a nearly full tank of diesel on my mitsubishi L200 just to dispose of it and get something back for the expenditure. Experienced no problems at all. A friend said that early diesels used to run on a lean gas mix in the winter to prevent waxing. Don't know how true this is.
You are welcome!
The way he walks when cutting grass immediately makes me think of Forrest Gump.
😂😂😂💀
He was thinking about Jenny.....
Man I'm ded
I'm ditching my pull cord for that drill set up
AMEN to that.
That’s what use to start my old 2-stroke outboard😂 needs new condenser and points but it works without tiring my arm from pulling a rope in the middle of the lake
I would have like to see spark plug before and after running straight diesel.
I should have shown this. Thanks for the suggestion!
You do a great job and I really enjoy watching all of the videos you make. I appreciate all the time and effort you put in to make the best experiment. Great job!👨🏼✈️
Thanks and you are welcome!
No.
A guy stole diesel thinking it was gas (I have a 250 gal. Farm tank) cause he was almost empty. Drove about 100 yards, died on him.
@Daniel did you know this thief, in today's courts he could SUE you for ruining his vehicle and get damages for not having tank labled the thief had more rights than us
@@donborg1408 ist that actually true? That's fucked up
@@Dongonzales123 Honestly I don't think it is. He said "he could SUE you for ruining his vehicle" which doesn't make sense because the thief didn't even own the vehicle in question.
He wins the Captain Dumbass award.. 99% of farm equipment runs on diesel, off road diesel in fact, so stealing diesel for his gas powered vehicle shows how little he knew about fuels.
A guy in the news a few years back was getting his mailboxes hit and knocked over by local teens, he put some cement in the box and stuck it out there for them after it dried and they hit it with a bat, bat came back and knocked their teeth out, guy got took to court and had to pay some on their teeth getting them fixed........so if you purposely do something to cause damage and can be proved......may be liable for the damage
Great video. So when burning a brush pile, use Diesel and not gas.
One Brothers Productions yea that's what I always use but remember diesel is harder to get started. I like throw diesel on it then throw a little gas on the diesel fuel to get it started.
Yea I would like to see diesel run in a 2 stroke like weedeater engine.
It could work, two stroke gassers are higher compression, but I think the quench would be too great for proper ignition, just like we saw here. Two stroke diesels on the other hand....
Accidentally put diesel in a snowmobile, got as much out as I could, but it smoked really bad. Took it riding, and it broke both pistons into little bits. Pretty crazy
Weed wackers will run on diesel if they're warm.
They will. whel, most will (provided ok compression) but you have to block the intake to kill them.
so..great video! I actually took the diesel atomizer out of a failed "Chinese Parking heater" and put a sleeve and gasket and press fit it a lawnmower in place of carb. It actually ran great! I advanced timing a little by moving the magnetic pickup (diesel is best at about 20 degrees advance) and next going to try shaving the head--to get compression up a bit--with a spark plug though--not really necessary. This is a summer project...lol BTW--I think a great test would be to test the various 2k, 5k, and 8k diesel heaters. I use one in my workshop and they are getting to be common---but lots of quality difference and I am convinced that the 8k is just a 5k relabeled! Love your UA-cam channel--keep up the great work!! If you're not familiar---just do a search on Amazon or ebay.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
surprised it runs at all on diesel. kinda interesting. that it runs on the 50/50.
Yes, I was surprised it ran on 50/50 gas/diesel. Impressive!
Had a gas scissor LIFT that a guy added diesel
They charged us 1200$ to drain and clean ....now I know that bull
Project Farm you should try getting an engine to run on bug spray or hair spray some sort of spray system for the intake to get it in there to stay running if it would even run.
Stuie, ouch! That seems way excessive to drain the fuel.
Chris, thanks for this idea!
Would you try running a small engine only on octane booster
Now test if the 50/50 gas/diesel last longer than just 100% gas.
This is a great question. I'll test this!
It could. Diesel has more energy per volume than gasoline. It is also more viscous, so the air fuel mixture gets leaner in a carbed engine.
I really like this you tube channel, this guy answers all the question you always wondered but were to afraid to try yourself.
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching.
when I was a kid the old boys that ran log trucks in our area used to add 3-5 gallons of gas to each of their tanks of diesel in the winter time when it snowed. Just FYI They told me when I asked that the gas helped keep the diesel warm in the tanks till summer. I thought that was, and still is a good answer.
Thanks for commenting on this.
Was common when I was younger too - it stopped the diesel waxing in very cold weather.
We still do it in the heavy equipment on our ranch.
Works like an OTC additive, right??
This was to prevent jelling of yhe diesel fuel in cold temperatures. Back before diesel was premixed - winter fuel - I'd mix it 50/50 with kerosene. Not many stations carry kerosene anymore. I'm sure gasoline was nearly as good. Still you would see a few semi trucks from the south on the side of the road in below zero temp in Minnesota stopped because of fuel gelling.
6:15 now THIS is content I subscribed for ;)
Thank You!
Your lawnmower goes through hell and back, mine hit too much grass and won’t start again 💀😂
Sorry to hear that! Thanks for watching.
Nice job, enjoy your tests.
Thanks so much!
Once I filled a tank with diesel, and to remedy, I used lucas additive to increase the octane rating. It ran rough, but it ran
EFI engine?
I did the same thing once. Someone had filled a gas can with deisel and I didn't realize it because I smelt like deisel (work truck is deisel). Needless to say I used it and after maybe 20 km, it started surging and kicking bad. It also had 0 power.
I went straight to a friend's place for a hand because at the time I didn't know exactly the issue. That was until, we seen all the excess oil coming from the exhaust.
I pumped the tank empty, refilled, added injection cleaner and it purred like a kity right away.
Project Farm: How much compression can you develop by shaving down the cylinder head ?
Thank you for the video idea!
it won't gain any just the ratio will incrase say 8to1 will become 9to 1 look into re clearanceing the valves to take out comp release on all flat head Briggs the intake valve don't close completely till the piston is 2/3 of the way up the stroke you will then brake pull ropes and snap flywheel keys guaranteed
Avery Jones . I tried this on my push mower with overhead valves. I shaved .020 off the head, installed it and readjusted the valve lash. No noticeable difference. I then opened up the fuel jet hole a few thousandths (don’t enlarge to much) this did seem to make it perform a bit stronger...
@@TheDeadMan3848 you have to adjust the timing of the valve s to take out overlap and to make the vaulve close sooner take the intake tappet and shave 20 thou off it and re adjust valves then tell me what happens
Avery Jones , I am not sure is it has intake tappets, it has pushrods with the camshaft in the block , I don’t think it would change anything, the valve will still open at the same time ?
Would like to see if ATF + Engine oil works as a carbon cleaner. I've always heard you can add ATF to your cars engine to clean out the oil sludge. ATF + Gasoline would be an interesting test as well.
These are great suggestions--thanks!
Works,but be very careful.best time to mix A.T.F into your engine oil is just before an oil change.Then run the engine about an hour or so,then change the oil and filter.Also watch carefully the next couple days for the next couple days,if the fresh oil starts turning black or looking dirty change it again.At least that is the way it worked out for me but it did free up some sticky hydrulic lifters.
It works but don't use too much. I believe that ATF is basically 20 weight oil with lots of detergent and anti-foaming additives.
You have some of the most entertaining and useful videos on the tube.
Wow, thanks!
Not enough compression for diesel
My john deere A runs on diesel with 4.5-1 compression
@Chris Farley engine temp needs to reach 190-200 degrees for the diesel fuel to thin out enough to be ignited by a spark plug. John Deere did this in the early two cylinder tractors so farmers didnt have to burn expensive gasoline when " tractor fuel" was only half the cost of gasoline. I have actually ran my '46 model A John Deere on #2 diesel during an antique tractor pull.
That would apply if he was trying to run it *as* a diesel... He wasn't. He wanted to see if the spark plug was enough to make it run... 🙄
Since it seemed to run so well on the 50/50 mix, I'd be interested in learning IF THE BLENDED FUEL WILL RUN LONGER ON A TANKFUL THAN STRAIGHT GAS.
Thanks for the suggestion.
FYI, I wouldn't do it ! I left a message regarding this issue and it can lead to total engine failure.
You should use E85
Thank you for this recommendation!
Juan Salazar it would probably mess up the rubber seat in the needle valve in the carb and start over flowing
from my experience .... oh wait... id rather not spoil this one :)
looking forward to seeing it if it happens
His test method wouldn't provide a good conclusion because it would run, but you'd have to run it LONG term to see the effect on engine seals/hoses/primer/carb/etc.
e85 has an issue of being hygroscopic so over time or in high humidity it starts to gel unless you use special additives... It's why so many boaters in Florida got pissed when they switched even to e10. It started gunking up their engines and clogging fuel lines
Great video as Always, man you got all the answers to my questions ! Even questions I didn’t know I have 😂😂😂
Thanks and you are welcome!
I did a similar test on the 2 stroke engines(chainsaw and weed eater), diesel works just fine on them, possibly even providing more power than gas but it is a bit harder to start and maybe not as stable on low rpm.
there is more smoke than when you use gasoline but 2 stroke engine requires adding oil and it emits some smoke anyway.
so in the end I now use diesel (with gasoline) as normal fule tor those engines
Thanks for sharing.
Several people claim that if you add a second gas tank to put diesel in and switch over to that tank after the motor is hot that it will work.
Could you do a test and see?
The reason you had to pump the primer bulb on diesel is that the carburetor is designed for gasoline, the diesel is much more viscous and the jet and siphon effect is tuned for gasoline, with some tinkering it might actually run on straight diesel..... Might
This is a great point. I'm thinking you're right about adjusting the carb. Thanks!
I agree. Project farm try tuning the carburator to run on deisel then try this test again. It should have more power if you can get it to run smoothly on deisel fuel.
There's no way it will run on straight diesel. A lawn mower engine has low compression and it will not produce enough heat to light the diesel fuel. I doubt that it would run on diesel even after being warmed up on gasoline. With the 50/50 mix there was enough gasoline there that the spark plug could light the mixture.
I believe the reason it ran with diesel in the tank is the carb. bowl still had gas in it and it started and the gas was getting diluted with diesel and the primer was supplying enough gas to keep it going then it got to the point that there was too much diesel and the spark plug would not light the diesel and the engine stopped.
oshpunit987 You are correct.
I unknowingly added diesel to my lawn tractor once, and noticed it knocked a little and puffed a slight bit of black smoke when under heavy load. It wouldn't start the next time I tried to use it. I realized I mixed up fuel cans with my dad at some point and used his diesel. Drain carb and tank, refill, no problem. Starting it on the gasoline still in the carb and with the engine warming up, the diesel/gas mixed worked until it was shut off and cooled down.
Thanks for sharing.
There were some old army deuce and a half that would run on whatever you could put in there tanks I dare you to look that up dude half ton army trucks that could run on literally any fuel including gasoline diesel or kerosene The engine was called Hercules multi fuel
Nice! Thank you
Matthew Clouse those old Hercules engines were among some of the best and they put them in some of the old tractors also
william foreman most any older diesel will run on pretty much anything that will burn.
Vegetable oil I think 30 weight oil or lighter. Transmission fluid bacon grease
@@joshlower1 will boil water but it just won't compess
Can a two stroke brush cutter run on that diesel/ gasoline mix?
Great video idea! Thank you
Why did you just up and decide to mix moth balls with acetone and then add it to diesel fuel?
Napthalene... it's a petroleum distillate
He used mothballs because he had run out of Altoids, which are curiously strong
Because mothballs were once used to boost the octane of gasoline. Though it wasn't the low octane of the diesel that kept the mower from running, it was its poor atomization qualities.
@@gregorymalchuk272 Not really.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Actually it's a little bit true. Diesel needs pressure and heat to burn. Diesel gets pressure from injection, since carburators aren't pressurized, then only the combustion chamber can deliver some. But can't forget about the point that gas engines can't have as much pressure as a diesel engine since the gasoline would ignite itself and cause engine knocking. Although you can bring a gas engine to run with it (partially) when the engine's hot enough
WOW! Mind Blown. These Idea, Are out way in the out field. But I have to give it to you. Your willingness to put these ideas to the test. WOW! More power to you.
Thank you.
I love your videos, can u make a 2 stroke engine run with olive oil or soya oil, as replacement of 2 stroke oil.
Respect from Norway
Thank you for the video idea!
My friend’s nephew once used peanut oil in his chainsaw, as there was no 2 stroke oil available. The motor seized up and was ruined.
Wondering what the minimum amount of gas to deisel ratio would work. Also if you would get a longer run time per volume. Great videos!
Great suggestion! Thank you.
I think advance timing with 50/50 mix with a little preheated air would make very economical run time and power
Wondering what would happen if you preheat the diesel fuel. Then try to start the engine
Thank you for this recommendation.
air to fuel mix in a petrol engine is about 15parts air 1 part fuel in a diesel engine it can be up to 70/1 so basicly if u preheat it like in a regular diesel it wouldent spit out unburned fuel ( the white smoke ) it would hawe 3 to 4 times as much energy so it would probably blow the gasket or the head itself i m not shure but i m 80% positive older diesels with a stronger mix like 30/1 are well known for blowing up head gaskets turbos aspecialy
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Ernie all you have to do is have the engine warmed up and then fill with the diesel/stove oil/ kerosene and they will run fine !!! Have done it for years!!! Diesel will ignite with a spark plug !!!!
Spark ignited diesel requires a hot engine. Until the '50s, farm tractors were designed to run on "distillate," which was not standardized. An old John Deere B crawler we had started fine on gasoline, then switched to stove oil when it was hot. The stove oil gave more power from the engine and ran hotter, thanks to the higher carbon content. At shutdown, you switched back to gas to purge the fuel line and carb.
Thanks for the feedback.
How about the run time of the engine at a 50/50 diésel mix vs a 100% gas? Will it run for the same amount if time?
I should have kept track of the run time, but I didn't.
Project Farm that's too bad it'd be nice to know if there was any fuel economy
Timo Kotipelto exactly what I was wondering
JW Outdoor great minds think alike.
Can someone explain for me how or why the mothball mixture was supposed to work?
Old trick to boost octane. Has to be the napthalene types balls though. Not recommended these days.
Mothballs are produced from crude oil, so is gasoline that's why!
Yeah but higher octane doesnt mean more power, octane levels being higher reduce preignition and engine knock, the higher compression ration there is the more preignition and detonation can happen, so the higher octane gas deals with that.
Naphtha is a oil byproduct! which is the main ingredient in moth balls.
Diesel isn't rated in Octane, but it is known to be harder to ignite than gasoline. This is a gasoline engine. Trying to make the diesel fuel harder to ignite will just make it worse.
You should Do starting fluid into a diesel engine, I’ve heard it over revs them or damages them
I understand that it glazes the cylinder walls and mucks with the rings and thereby the compression of the motor. It's like crack to a diesel is what I've been told.
Using too much on any engine can cause damage to cylinder walls cause it dries them out. And a constant spray of it will over rev any engine. The biggest reason everyone thinks it’s bad for a diesel is glow plugs. If they’re still on or hot enough it’ll cause pre ignition and can crack pistons / bend rods. Grid heater engine shouldn’t have any issues.
@@Dirtyol12valve some diesel engines come with starting fluid injection to start them in the cold. Works fine just don't plan to run them on the starting fluid or use starting fluid and glow plugs at the same time.
I am looking for a diesel generator, since I have left over heating oil in a tank from the furnace that was just replaced. I was told that I might be able to use the heating oil for this purpose. I found this video very informative.
Glad to hear!
Try some pure rc car nitro next like if you agree
I'll definitely test this!
Project Farm well it's kind of like diesel because it gets ignited by compression ignition it may work in a diesel engine
Ryan Drant I've run blowers off it fine, unsure why it works but it works well in a pinch
Well, these fuels are usually a mix of methanol and nitromethane (7-25%) and oil... It works really well with two strokes.
Samuel Seidel, Diesel flashes on compression, the blower made it work.
I still say a mixture of lacquer thinner and gasoline
Yes, I plan to do a video on this. Thanks for the idea!
MY BAD!!!t was intended for that other guy goin off calling project farm an idiot and shit. Wrong comment section sorry.
Tim Lowery
Dude wth why so angry?? Simmer down bro!!!
A 50/50 2 stroke gas and diesel in a gas engine. Like if you want to see it.
Thank you for this idea!
You are welcome for 100k subs you should take all of the mowers and put a bunch of different things in them and see wich one last the longest.
Project Farm try running half gas had diesel in a diesel engine
Well this weekend while trying to get a tiller motor running for a goKart my buddy accidentally put 2-stroke gas in the 4 stroke motor and it did not want to stay running
Kind of odd. My cousen did me and him a favor and filled up our bikes with 2 stroke gas and they ran fine they just smoked alot.
I wish you really knew just how much of my hi speed I use when I miss a few posting from your channel and watch them one after the next. Keep it up
Thanks, will do!
Can u make comparison test between 50/50 mix and full gasoline? I wonder which one will run longger in same condition
Thank you for the video idea!
Project Farm That'd be a great test. Your 50/50 run in this video definitely has me thinking. Diesel in my country is not taxed at the pump like gas (a separate road tax is paid) so is almost 1/2 the price of gas!
I'm guessing engine knock could potentially destroy a more complex tuned engine but interesting to see the effect on a simple small engine
@@DiscoFang i think it will run fine but smoking like chimney
Please
Dare I say... how about Bacardi 151?
Thank you for this idea!
Some states still allow the sale of Everclear at 190 proof if there is too much water in the 151 Bacardi. 75% vs 95%
Project Farm Hey man I've been wondering if engine coolant can clean the carbon build up inside of the engine not sure if you'll read this but if you do that could be an idea
Project Farm Do you have any merchandise? I would definitely buy a T-shirt or a mug with Project Farm on it.
151 is too high of water content, secondly it wouldn't get enough "fuel" and melt down/through the piston and head fast :)
with near 100% alcohol it's possible, but the carburetor would need to flow around 3x more fuel, start out rich and slowly lean it back, monitoring via exhaust gas temp "pyrometer"
straight alcohol has been used in racing for years, the fumes are rather noxious, you don't want to breathe them much, racers normally add liquid scent to the alcohol, they'll go by leaving bubble gum, cotton candy or other various scents :)
Diesel fuel needs to be atomized to combust whereas gasoline just evaporates at low temperatures and the vapor is combustible. That's why we never had carbuerated diesels. I wonder if maybe the gasoline was carrying the diesel when it evaporated or if the burning gasoline was heating the diesel up to IT'S vapor point, causing the diesel to ignite. I would like to see (and I might do it on my own) gasoline mixed 50/50 with diesel and set out over night to test this. If half of the mixture was left in the morning, we can be fairly certain the gasoline evaporated off, leaving the diesel fuel alone whi h eould mean the heat from the burning gas was evaporating and burning the diesel. If less than half remained, we would know that at least some of the diesel was being carried with the gasoline.. The other thing I would like to se (but this would be dificult) is is a small engine could run if a proper diesel injector and fuel pump were added. This would tell us whether ATOMIZED diesel was capable of being ignited with a spark. If that were the case, it would be interesting to see the difference in the burn characteristica.
You are wrong on several points. Every hear of tractor fuel. It was basically fuel oil somewhere between k1 and #2 diesel. Start on gas and once the carb was hot switch. So yes there were carbarated engines that ran on diesel. Every hear of JP-4 or 5. Military use it in every thing. Diesel,Gas and Jet engines.
@@brianpatrick8787 I must cry BS here. Tha military uses JP 5 in compression combustion and turbine engines. These are injected engines, not carbuerated engines. The same is true of their use of JP 4, although JP-4 might actually run a traditional spark ignition engine since it is a 50/50 blend of gasoline and a diesel-like fuel. It wouldn't run very well though and would lead to a lot of carbon buildup over time. The few engines the military has that are regular gasoline engines are filled with and run off of gasoline.
As far as tractor fuel is concerned, it was much closer to kerosene (a shorter HC chain) than diesel fuel and if hot enough, would readily evaporate and burn once a spark ignited it.
So did you try it on your own? 50/50 mix? How's the result?
You have one of the most interesting channels on UA-cam. Keep it up...
Thanks, will do!