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Backpacking Stove Efficiency, Part 4: Heat Exchanger Systems (HX Pots)
This video is Part 4 in a series on Backpacking Stove Efficiency. Considered here are Heat Exchangers (HX pots), with comparison of 7 different systems each at flame levels of Low, Medium, and High. HX systems are also compared to conventional titanium camp pots of varying diameters, with analysis of both fuel efficiency and weight efficiency.
It is recommended that you watch them in order, as each video builds upon concepts introduced previously.
Link to the series playlist:
ua-cam.com/play/PLEu_UfyDKJALh0XekpW2Dh8U6gICL7Xct.html
Download spreadsheet with the data and graphs:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ay4poi60p0p7tyjk7uqix/Pot-Burner-Efficiency-HX.xlsx?rlkey=4ho4j203h82bz72nmy8jzt01i&dl=0
Index
00:42 Heat Exchangers
02:18 Methodology
02:56 HX Systems Tested
08:35 Flame Levels
09:24 Low Flame Results
12:57 Medium Flame Results
14:24 High Flame Results
15:16 HX Response to Increased Flame Level
15:51 Reactor 1.0L
18:47 Kettle
19:57 Petrel
20:26 Pot-Burner Gap
21:53 Cheetah
22:40 Stanco
25:21 MicroMo
26:09 Stash
31:15 High-Low HX Difference
32:32 HX Design Features
35:44 Weight vs. Fuel Efficiency
45:53 Savings of Consecutive Boils (Reactor)
50:29 Summary
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Backpacker Fact-Checker, #3: Inflating a pad with your breath
Переглядів 48 тис.5 місяців тому
This video is Part 3 in a series that investigates those Trail Tales you may have heard that tend to be repeated, over and over again, without ever being proven. This episode examines the ramifications of inflating a sleeping pad with your breath, with the two main questions being: Does the humidity in your breath lower the R-value? Does breath moisture cause mold inside the pad? To view the re...
Backpacking Stove Efficiency, Part 3: Windscreens
Переглядів 26 тис.6 місяців тому
This video is Part 3 in a series on Backpacking Stove Efficiency. It examines the effect of 3rd party windscreens on the performance of gas canister pot-stove systems, including both fuel and weight efficiency. Discussion includes flame levels for optimum efficiency at increasing windspeeds, a comparison of different windscreen types, and pot vs. bowl-based kits. It is recommended to view the s...
Backpacker Fact-Checker, #2: Heat Loss Through the Head
Переглядів 11 тис.8 місяців тому
This video series will take a skeptical look at some of the Trail Tales told frequently about backpacking, often without evidence or references. In each episode, I’ll do my best to try and track down the source of each claim so that you can make your own, informed decisions about the truth and/or usefulness of the supposed information. Episode #2 examines the familiar rule that “40 to 45% of yo...
Backpacker Fact-Checker, #1: Shoe Weight
Переглядів 23 тис.10 місяців тому
This video series will take a skeptical look at some of the Trail Tales told frequently about backpacking, often without evidence or references. In each episode, I’ll do my best to try and track down the source of each claim so that you can make your own, informed decisions about the truth and/or usefulness of the supposed information. Episode #1 examines the issue of shoe weight, and the famil...
Backpacking Stove Efficiency, Part 2: Wind Effects
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This video is Part 2 in a series on Backpacking Stove efficiency. It follows the examination in Part 1 with a look at how burner style, pot diameter, flame level, and lids affect heating performance at various levels of wind. It is recommended to watch Part 1 first, as that video introduces concepts meaningful to the interpretation of these results. View Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/J9Sz3IQ_DW4/v-d...
Backpacking Stove Efficiency, Part 1: Pot Diameter, Burner Size, Flame Level
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This video seeks to determine “best” backcountry cook kit options for both Fuel Efficiency and Weight Efficiency. It investigates the performance interaction of titanium pots in increasing diameters against stoves of various burner widths, and at 3 different flame levels. It also addresses the performance benefits of using a lid on your pot, and the question of whether a lid is worth the weight...
The Gear Workshop is Taking Shape
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Just a quick update and a look at the new Gear Workshop that is beginning to take shape. There will be all kinds of opportunities for the testing of gear in the new year! (intro sound by zapsplat.com)
Performance Nutrition for Backpackers, Part 5: Advanced Electrolyte Supplementation
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This video is Part 5 in a series on Performance Nutrition for Backpackers. It is recommended to watch the series in order, as each video builds upon concepts introduced previously. In particular, see Part 3 on Hydration Strategies and Part 4 on Electrolyte Balance. The Hiker Food Chart has been updated to version 2.5 and now includes a list of over 138 electrolyte supplements to choose from. Al...
Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 6: Ultraviolet Disinfection
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This video is Part 6 in a series on Backcountry Water Treatment methods. It is a discussion of Ultraviolet light’s germicidal capacity and the disinfection capabilities of available UV products, including the Steripen. Topics include the relative effectiveness against different pathogen types (cyst, bacteria, viruses), the effect of water condition on performance, safety hazards involved with U...
Backcountry Water Treatment - Part 5: Activated Carbon Filters for Chemicals and Viruses
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This video is Part 5 in a series on Backcountry Water Treatment methods. It is a discussion of electro-chemical adsorption (activated carbon and ion exchange) as a technology for water filtration, with the pros and cons as a treatment method for the reduction of chemicals and viruses in drinking water. Specific filter options are reviewed, with advice on how to pick the option that might best s...
Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 4: Ultrafiltration
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This video is Part 4 in a series on Backcountry Water Treatment methods, focusing on Ultrafiltration purifiers, also known as the removal of viruses (in addition to bacteria and cysts) from drinking water by size-exclusion. It addresses the claim that viruses are too small to be filtered by hollow-fiber membranes with 0.02-micron ratings, looks at filter options available in this class, and dis...
Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 3: Microfiltration
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Does it really matter whether your filter removes 99.9% versus 99.999%? This video is as much about concepts in filtration as it is about the filters themselves. It uses published, scientific studies on real-world concentrations of pathogens found in wilderness waters and lab-tested levels of available filtration rates to examine the question: How much Safety is “enough”? Analyzes risk assessme...
The Volumetric Calorie Density of Backpacking Food
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This video takes a look at the Volumetric Calorie Density of backpacking food. It is intended as a strategic guide for obtaining the most amount of food energy for the least amount of pack space. This can be particularly useful when faced with hard volume limits like when bear canisters are required. Index 00:21 Introduction (2 types of Calorie Density) 01:31 Mini-Food Chart of Volumetric Calor...
Planning an Ultralight Backpacking Menu for Optimal Trail Nutrition
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This video is a follow-up to the Performance Nutrition for Backpacker series and the Hiker Food Chart 2.0 (which is now further updated to version 2.5). It addresses the most commonly asked questions: How to use The Chart How to put all the nutrition videos together into an actual menu plan A full, multi-day backpacking menu as an example. Check out the Backpacker Food Series of videos here: ua...
Hiker Food Chart 2.0 (Updated and Upgraded)
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Hiker Food Chart 2.0 (Updated and Upgraded)
Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 2: Chemical Disinfection
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Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 2: Chemical Disinfection
Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 1: Boiling vs Pasteurization
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Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 1: Boiling vs Pasteurization
DIY Food Chart
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DIY Food Chart
Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 4: Electrolyte Balance
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Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 4: Electrolyte Balance
Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 3: Hydration Strategies
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Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 3: Hydration Strategies
Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 2: Optimal Hike Recovery
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Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 2: Optimal Hike Recovery
Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 1: Optimal Trail Fuel
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Performance Nutrition for Backpacking, Part 1: Optimal Trail Fuel
Freeze Dried Backpacking Meals Rated by Calorie Density (Part 2 in series)
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Freeze Dried Backpacking Meals Rated by Calorie Density (Part 2 in series)
Defining "Ultralight" Food for Backpacking and Bug Out Bags
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Defining "Ultralight" Food for Backpacking and Bug Out Bags

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  • @hector5299
    @hector5299 4 хвилини тому

    I already knew about the 125cal./1oz rule, so I almost passed up your video. I’m glad I didn’t. Thanks for the video. But most importantly thanks for the time that it took to put it all together. As time is the most valuable asset we have as human beings. Take care 👍🏽

  • @adlaursen
    @adlaursen День тому

    Thank you for a great video, sir! Very rare to see this level of scientific argumentation and references. However, without having any published studies to reference, I can with almost absolute certainty tell you that you are mistaken about the mold part of the video. As a quick bagground info, I work as head of R&D for an undisclosed but pretty big brand producing, amongst other things, sleeping pads of all sorts. As part of my responsibilities, I communicate with our claims and costumer support department, as well as our production facilities and R&D engineers, so I see all of the not so sexy behind the scenes details of the outdoor gear industry. Sleeping pads (such as the Thermarest ones in the referenced videos) will most often be made from TPU laminated nylon as well as having inner layers of clear TPU film for structure and compartmentalization. What people forget to mention is, that the expensive top-level sleeping pads are often using antimicrobial film or treatments in their pads (which is part of the reason they are so darn expensive). Naturally, a super expensive top-level pad with antimicrobial materials/treatments, will (often, not always though) be free of mold growth. However, when you investigate pads from a price point a bit below Thermarests top pads, you find that one of the reasons for a cheaper price, is also cheaper materials/lack of treatments. Without disclosing models or brands, I can tell you that even some of the markets kinda cheaper but otherwise very well performing pads in parameters such as R-values, weight, great comfort etc., will have mold growth inside them - but only on pads made of outer fabrics of bright colors and low linear density fibers (Denier) will the dark mold growths be visible. For some models, as many as >5% of items solds will result in claims by customers for excessive mold growth. Some sleeping pads will (despite using pumpbags, electric pumps or similar to inflate) be absolutely riddled with dark mold growths within just a few usages - if of course the conditions are "right" (/wrong). If you want, I can in a private communication provide you with photographic evidence and more specific details? Thanks again, you have gotten a new subscriber!

  • @user-kx9wj2oy2i
    @user-kx9wj2oy2i День тому

    because you are doing that in warm garage. thays why "no benefits" from lid

  • @beingaware8542
    @beingaware8542 3 дні тому

    Gram wheenies!!! Not counters.... :)

  • @declankerin5765
    @declankerin5765 3 дні тому

    There's a great deal of science that shows copper is essential to human health. Removing it all isn't mission-critical. Obviously, copper kills all viruses and bacteria, so it has been extremely important in water treatment for millennia.

    • @declankerin5765
      @declankerin5765 3 дні тому

      and, BTW, an absolutely brilliant video, @gearskeptic.

  • @GrumpyBigZ
    @GrumpyBigZ 4 дні тому

    Fantastic! Thank you!

  • @pytheas222
    @pytheas222 4 дні тому

    Im thinking ghee, parmigiano reggiano cheese, nutritional yeast, fortified date squares with berries and other nutrients added, homemade electrolyte and fruit juice gummies made with gelatin, beef jerky or pemican, algae tablets or dried seaweed, a variety of teas and instant coffee, powdered milk tablets if they exist, and raw honey. I would also add a variety of dried fruits and berries for the nutrient variety and fiber content, and maybe some greens powder for the micronutrients. One thing people forget to factor in is insoluble fibre that aids digestion despite not having nutritional value. Things like oat bran assuming you have enough calcium to balance the phosphate would help for avoiding constipation allot, one of the most overlooked and major problems.

    • @pytheas222
      @pytheas222 4 дні тому

      Didn't include nuts because I'm factoring in bioavalibility of nutrients and ease of digestion, neither of which nuts excell in. That being said, I think adding a small bag of a variety of nuts wouldn't hurt as a supplemental snack, but these wouldn't be ideal as a main source of nutrients.

    • @VicvicW
      @VicvicW 2 дні тому

      Something you might want to bear in mind (with regards to your fibre point) is that militaries often deliberately make their MRE kits cause constipation (the infamous Biscuits Brown in British MREs, for instance). They often also provide something with a laxative effect (like chewing gum with xylitol). This serves 2 purposes. Firstly, you have to deal with cat holes less often while on manoeuvres. Second, the longer food stays in your colon, the more nutrients you absorb from it. Obviously this is only up to a point. Now obviously, if you're out for weeks on end, getting completely bunged up isn't good for you.

  • @gabriele1975
    @gabriele1975 4 дні тому

    You said “mind your munchies “ 😂😂😂😅 I’m dead! 😅

  • @annabanabanana
    @annabanabanana 5 днів тому

    Your voice kind of reminds me of the man who used to narrate unsolved mystery’s lol

  • @2ddw
    @2ddw 6 днів тому

    Outstanding information

  • @FastuebAirsoft
    @FastuebAirsoft 8 днів тому

    That's how you make an excellent and complete informative video. Loved the scientific approach

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 8 днів тому

      Thanks! That is much appreciated.

  • @bushcraftbasics2036
    @bushcraftbasics2036 8 днів тому

    Canadian Army used inflated pads, the carry case doubled as an inflation bag. Found in extreme cold some who blew it up by mouth could not deflate in the morning because the valve froze. Figured some saliva would get in there also as they blew.

  • @Emily_M81
    @Emily_M81 8 днів тому

    doing the Lord's work lol, well done. pretty sure UA-cam sent me here after watching a video where a guy used a Soto Amicus and went through 2 canisters and into a 3rd while his partner was still on their first canister using a Jetboil Minimo. These setups really seem to shine over long-haul scenarios where the efficiency really pays off. Anyway, thanks for sharing!

  • @VicvicW
    @VicvicW 10 днів тому

    Very interesting! I am a boot hiker, always have been, but was wondering about switching to trainers for lightness. Good to know that, at my speeds, with the flexibility of my boots, I wouldn't be gaining anything. I love my high and mid boots. They've carried me far.

  • @BigJordi556
    @BigJordi556 10 днів тому

    I enjoyed this video as I’ve been looking into heat exchanger pots and stove combos in the future I’d love to see a comparison on heat exchanger setups vs wind shielded setups and fuel use. You may also want to check out the Bulin stove and pot combo the fins on the bottom of the pot are longer and covered with an additional cup piece on the bottom of the pot I’d be interested to see the correlation of the exchanger pots and their types of fins and the length of the fins.

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 10 днів тому

      Yes! It is coming. I just need to wait until it cools down in my shop.

  • @liammwaghorn
    @liammwaghorn 10 днів тому

    So well done. Thank you

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 10 днів тому

      You’re welcome! Hope it helps.

  • @A_potato9772
    @A_potato9772 11 днів тому

    This guy. THIS GUY. He answered questions I didn't even know I had.

  • @PedroDeLlama
    @PedroDeLlama 12 днів тому

    Wicked surprising. Not the results, but the entertainment value. How is it possible that a cannot suffer regular speed through an 8-12 minute gear review video with all sorts of effort put into cinematography, but I could not bear to fast forward even one minute of this video!

  • @ScottWhyte-o8e
    @ScottWhyte-o8e 13 днів тому

    First off, thank you. These videos have me looking at my food in a completely different way. I have a question, how much water do you add to your recovery drink?

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 13 днів тому

      You’re welcome! I use about 16oz. It is flexible, though. It gets pretty strongly sweet if you use less water, and don’t do more than a liter (see the video on hydration strategies for the limits of what your body can process at one time).

  • @suntzuthesecond
    @suntzuthesecond 13 днів тому

    What about using the skin turgor test (ie pinching the back of your knuckles and watching how quickly it bounces back) as an additional guide to hydration levels in the context of hiking? Is that something useful to monitor? It seems to have the convenience of being done on demand, rather than only when the urge to pee comes and having to judge the colour under uncertain lighting and background colour conditions.

  • @dumfinrenyman3308
    @dumfinrenyman3308 13 днів тому

    Thank you so much Ive been looking all over for someone with the knowledge to be able to dissect this wonderful idea

  • @millsmarkchris
    @millsmarkchris 16 днів тому

    I love your videos, but I think they would be more, um, palatable and understandable if you cut them down to a third of the length, and then had a separate video with all the details in case someone wanted to do a deep dive. Also, I would adjust the overhead camera so the viewer doesn’t feel like they are hanging upside down. But amazing content nevertheless.

  • @ck-li6yr
    @ck-li6yr 17 днів тому

    Dude I am blown away by this video. I fully intended to just grab the highlights but here I am an hour later. I can't believe I am only just now finding your channel. Keep up the great work

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 17 днів тому

      Thanks! Welcome down the rabbit hole 😉

  • @andyr4611
    @andyr4611 18 днів тому

    Interesting, nice to see scientific method applied to testing gear. How about testing painting the base of your pan black, would that increase fuel efficiency? Would be interesting to know.

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 17 днів тому

      Good idea. I plan to do some materials testing (comparing pots of aluminum, titanium, steel). Probably put black pots in that run.

  • @owensechrist1315
    @owensechrist1315 19 днів тому

    Slight quibble: R-value is not "resistance to conductive heat." The measurement is heat transfer mechanism agnostic.

  • @dangr123
    @dangr123 20 днів тому

    This guy is the Carl Sagan of Camping 🏕

  • @fratomdev
    @fratomdev 20 днів тому

    Loved it. I am a Mech Eng and spent 4 years doing heat transfer and fluid flow. As I said loved it.

  • @jhosk
    @jhosk 23 дні тому

    Adding something that's rarely discussed, extreme temp changes. Example, was in a very hot environment for months up to 125° , then was sent to Germany for a bit for training, then back to the gates of hell. That short time in a much cooler environment "snow on the ground" kicked my butt. Was consuming 3 GALLONS of fluids, 2 liter of water to 1 liter of electrolytes. Here's what I found and experienced, when exposed to such a extreme temperature change your skin begins to filter your blood similar to your kidneys. Your sweat will smell like PISS. Only had to pee 4 times the entire day but that was in the afternoon. Something else I observed was my bodies desire to clear the bowels out to help with absorption. That 3 days without water is for someone in an air conditioned environment and not performing any activities.

  • @jhosk
    @jhosk 23 дні тому

    Pemmican

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 23 дні тому

      It’s on there! (The list has been updated since the video)

  • @Anna-uh7qx
    @Anna-uh7qx 23 дні тому

    I have a question for you! Given that we need water, what is the big deal about consumables with lots of water weight? Does getting it by eating just reduce the number of times we hit our water bottles? Food for thought (pun intended). Thanks for the awesome vids, and Happy Glycogen-preserving!

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 23 дні тому

      Well, you can set out with 7 days of food without too much problem. Try carrying 7 days of water! 😱

  • @jhosk
    @jhosk 23 дні тому

    Something I'm curious about is a different design on the heat exchangers. A coiled exchanger design should retain most of its efficiency and reduce the effect of wind. You also discussed how often people resupply, resupplying often is not efficient and adds steps. I'm one of those oddballs that has no issue going a month without going to town.

  • @jhosk
    @jhosk 24 дні тому

    How many hours did you spend getting us these awesome nerding out facts?

  • @jhosk
    @jhosk 24 дні тому

    This has been on my mind lately, happy i found this

  • @BradyPatterson
    @BradyPatterson 26 днів тому

    Probably my favourite outdoor channel period. Thanks for doing what you do. I will continue to refer people to your content!

    • @BradyPatterson
      @BradyPatterson 26 днів тому

      Oh, and I carry a pump because I don't enjoy being dizzy from blowing up my massive Exped pads.

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 25 днів тому

      Very kind of you! And I can’t disagree about the convenience of a pump 😉

  • @inhalethewild
    @inhalethewild 26 днів тому

    I cannot express the level of gratitude and appreciation I have for your content! The scientific comparisons and breakdowns are invaluable. You're amazing!

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 25 днів тому

      Thanks very much! It is appreciated and I am glad if it can help.

  • @nicademusx6624
    @nicademusx6624 26 днів тому

    I used to lay asphalt for a living, 10-14 hrs per day 5 days per week. Our machine and work area routinely exceeded 140°F and in the hottest parts of summer was touching 160°F. It must be possible for the human body to learn to operate at much higher than 2% dehydration. Not a single one of us ever consumed more than 2.5 gallons of liquid per day and nobody died. Human bodies are indeed a marvel of workmanship, maybe not the best engineered lol. This makes me want to touch on the symptoms of dehydration. Nobody ever talks about the very 1st symptom being a runny nose. If you are out in the heat and you notice your nose has started running, you better start hydrating. If it has reached the next stage of less sweat, find shade and hydrate. After this comes the shakes, this is dangerous territory and will likely need ice/cold running water and hydration supplements. Next is loss of muscle strength/motor control. At this point, and any point past this, medical assistance may be required Vomiting at any of these stages requires immediate medical assistance.

  • @harrisonshao4537
    @harrisonshao4537 27 днів тому

    Brilliant channel.

  • @MrBobbyOcean
    @MrBobbyOcean 27 днів тому

    This man is a national treasure. Protect him at all costs

  • @RonMTube
    @RonMTube 27 днів тому

    You could test the flame gap theory with the Petrel. Run it with the pot supports in the slots and then with it not in the slots. Everything remains the same, except the gap.

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 26 днів тому

      Yes! I plan to try that when I do the wind testing.

  • @nicademusx6624
    @nicademusx6624 28 днів тому

    Favorite glucose recovery treat. Mt. Dew is the nectar of the gods.

  • @eric55406
    @eric55406 29 днів тому

    Hypothesis, one could probably take the Petrel pot and not use those slots for the stove arms, increasing the gap and allowing the flame to develop in the center of the pot, and possibly increasing efficiency. (Possible downside instability.)

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic 28 днів тому

      Yes! I plan to test it both ways when I do the wind testing.

  • @eric55406
    @eric55406 29 днів тому

    The nerd in me rejoices!

  • @eric55406
    @eric55406 29 днів тому

    Getting ready for a 5 day 4 night trip to a place that requires bear cannister. Thank you for this. I think I am going to repack my dehydrated meal packs into ziplocks because wow they do take up a lot of space without repacking them.

  • @wildnesssurvival
    @wildnesssurvival 29 днів тому

    Awesome! Like always is!

  • @OLAISLA-qh7kp
    @OLAISLA-qh7kp 29 днів тому

    Thank you for the time and patience in compiling information and making it easily digestible

  • @LKjustahandle
    @LKjustahandle 29 днів тому

    TL;DR The quoted paper is not science, hence the recommendations are suspect, read Waterlogged book by Noakes. You quote 2009 article by "a Canadian elite-level runner and triathlete. He received a Ph.D. in organic chemistry ", which presents "a mathematical and scientific model". One major flaw, that renders all his calculations irrelevant is "The sodium content of sweat is set at 40 mM (range 20-80 mM) meaning that 1 L of sweat would contain 920 mg of sodium". The fact is sodium loss rate slows down as serum Na goes down! The author should have read Waterlogged more closely and so should the author of this video. Why would you base your recommendations on some obscure not peer reviewed web article? Yes, it's hard to find good science on hydration, but start with the Waterlogged book. Cheers.

  • @ddff5242
    @ddff5242 Місяць тому

    Petrel has the benefit of adjusting the burner gap. Be interested to know results of petrel if burner isn't used inside the slots.

    • @GearSkeptic
      @GearSkeptic Місяць тому

      Agreed! When I do the wind testing, I will check it both ways.

  • @Hemingway90
    @Hemingway90 Місяць тому

    Wow man - this is truly some hard work. I hope you reach an excellent amount of views some day for this effort. I will tell all my friends and family about this. Thanks for your research and brilliance!

  • @EdgarSnowSki
    @EdgarSnowSki Місяць тому

    Great review. I just received the Petrel and I did quick tests with brs300 and pocket rocket 2, and I had 4gr for 500gr water. Also they ship a set where they have Hornet stove which has pretty high distance to the pot. So I think stove choice is making a difference for Petrel.

  • @TheCameron1038
    @TheCameron1038 Місяць тому

    Gear skeptic, you are the greatest. Thank you. I would love to see a video breaking down the best method of air mattress repair. I saw a method using hot glue that looked pretty promising. Thanks again!