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Can the Ogre run a larger cassette like a 10-52....need low gear inches for climbing hills. Current ogre drive train only has 19 gear inches whereas the BC has 16.

Difference between Preamble and straggler frame? I know the fork is different :)

how rigid are they?

I’d like to see you do this same Grappler comparison with the Bridge Club and Ogre.

Would 36/22 work with the top pull Deore derailleur? What would the gear range, high/low ratios be? Size XL bridge club. Really want top pull 2x with more high end than 1x and want good climbing too.

Won't do everything and might do 1 or 2, BUT understand these are ideas/possibilities. I like some and will probably do; i.e. saddle, hub and front rack. Thank you for the entertainment! Additionally, I like seeing products I've never heard of (i.e. Soma Dream Bars, PNW Pedals, and New Albion XDT Crankset). It's hard to know everything. And things I haven't thought about for years (i.e. Brooks B17 Saddle). Again thank you for the infotainment. Cheers

It looks like stickers are under a clear coat! Also an improvement.

As a Ghost Grappler owner thinking of getting a Krampus (and building it up myself as well) I would love to have some feedback about the difference in riding/sitting position between both. Especially if you would put the same wheels on both. Seems like the frame geometry is very similar. Quite long toptube and outstretched position...

GREAT video. Will a 29x3 tire fit on the Krampus with suspension fork?

One thing I would mention is that the rear dropouts are 12mm thru axle. So you actually get a slotted dropout with a thru axle, which is how my Lowside is also. It's pretty slick how it's set up. And yes, I did notice the Swampmaster in the background ...🙂

i don't care what anyone says. Surly makes some cool bikes. My first Surly will definitely be a new Moonlander. I'd also like a Krampus in the quiver. Thanks for the video!

Love mine with flat bars!

Best way to figure out what bike to get is to ride. Figure out the kind of places you like to ride around ,what kind of surfaces you like and don’t like, the speed that you like to ride, and how much time you like to ride. That’s what helped me sort out my two favorite bikes.

What is the max chainring size 1x for this bike

i have krampus 2022 and the bolts on the fork are arranged differently..just one on the side, three in the inner part toward the frame..in this case when you mount a drybag and turn ,the bag touch the frame , no confy steering... the forks i saw in this video shows different bolt arrangement

“Intergalactic” He says! 🙏🏻

Is there a belt driven with pinion gearbox surly? ❤

That stem is crazy high

That looks stunning!

I'd like to try a Grappler or Krampus with 2x drive...mountain bikes are brutally slow for me otherwise...

The Grinch that stole the Grappler! A new classic. Thanks for the clear breakdown of differences between the 3 Surly bikes, I found it very helpful. Thanks!

I’m a MicroSHIFT fan. Their stuff works well and is easy to set up - a big plus for those like me who are not especially mechanically inclined. But the Sword shifters are so much nicer than the Advent shifters. They feel better in the hand and routing the shifter cable under the tape looks so much nicer. They are, of course, cross-compatible. Yeah. I’m picky. But…

I do like that Ghost Grappler... I've been wondering if a Surly is in my future.. Thanks for making it a bit more difficult to decide. I like the Big Dummy... That Grappler looks indestructible.

Adore that new color but I really don't understand the choice to go with Advent X in the drops. Especially for a touring-style bike where many folks will want to have a large bag between the hoods.

Ottawa KANSAS...Not Canada. Got you. I know I made that mistake awhile back. great video, great bikes. Love my Surly.

Bridge club, small frame, build it myself !!, By spring Hopefully!! P.S. own a Crosscheck , small ! , a E C R 29" Small , A straggler frame (TOO SMALL) XS, Will , sell in spring ! Looking forward to building the Bridge Club bike With most of those parts, and the 27.5 wheel set I have on hand !! I spend most of my time, riding bike paths to dirt roads , In the middle of nowhere !! I am a 50,s kid!! My sisters are still waiting for me to grow out of the bicycle phase !!! They jump on my bikes in a heartbeat though to go riding with me.

You lost me with that 1x B.S. Less flexibility, wider ratios, fewer choices and less bike, and all for more money. Great if your are selling them, not so great if you are buying. I've had numerous 3x and one 2x adult quality bikes over the past 40 years and never had any significant issues with those drivetrains. Never gonna buy a 1x. How long before manufacturers switch back to making front derailleurs, and tout it as all new tech?

Unless something has changed, mechanical Apex will not work with an Eagle derailleur.

Blimey, I'm in love!

That is one ugly bike

Cool bike! 😊👍

What size frame is it?

Keep the Surly bikes. They are underrated. 🙂☕☕

Omg I love the midnight special! I get stuck looking at this frame.. I own a straggler so I don’t need one”yet”

I’m going to run a triple front and it was tough finding the right front derailleur. A couple hours of searching I found a NOS XTR that would work.

at that price they need carbon wheels. $2500 for a steel framed bike without carbon wheels is overpriced I'm my opinion. Seriously you can build a nice Al framed gravel bike, lighter, with much better spec for much less. Its would have wireless electronic shifting and be much much lighter.

is the rear hub 130mm or 135mm spacing?

Great Vid!

I like Surly's approach to bike releases. When you're dealing with a technology that's as mature as steel bicycles, there's really no need to bring out something new every year. They know their customers aren't suckers who want the latest thing all the time, instead get what they need and keep it for as long as it satisfiest their use case. Other companies could really learn something from this, it say something about how confident Surly is that their bikes are about as good as they can get for the intended use.

It may be just the lighting, or a trick of the camera... but the color looks slightly different on the APEX than on the GRX. Is it like that in person?

I love the matching OR layer you wore for this video ;) Also, I am not sure what the difference is but Jamis does refer to the carbon fork as V2 on the new renegade

Greetings from Ottawa Canada. This bike frame shares a lot of similarities to my Kuwahara Mesa from around 87-88. U brake, same rack mounting bosses, cable routing and identical rear dropout. I’m thinking likely made in the same Taiwanese factory.

Tire clearance?

I would love this Root Beer as frame/fork only. I have much different opinions/likes on the setup.

How much does it weigh?

Sweet looking bike, but wish you had gone into a bit more detail on some common questions. How wide of tire will the bike take? Yes, lots of mountain points, but can I don’t send mount points for front or rear racks? We can look up geo and think about how the bike might handle, but curious if you think this is best suited for all road or chunkier gravel or bikepacking? Thanks - love the clean welds and color!

Jeff, nice bike, by a solid brand that often flies under the radar. Thank you for the video.

12 speed 1x Shimano supports microspline 12 speed mtb 10-51 teeth cassetes. The change probably has more to do with the ubiquity of SRAM AXS Apex as an OEM groupset at this price point. Either way, Shimano or SRAM, this frame is probably the best in terms of standards (T47 bb, Reynolds tubing, tapered headtube, nice color, good welds, attractive dropouts). I like it.

Nice frame which id happily buy separately. Dislike SRAM stuff in general. Also prefer 2x or even 3x.... dont mind the extra weight ( your buying a steel bike ) and i like the closer gear ratios and the lower gears available

Nice to see it as a frame-set too. Good one for a winter build series similar to what you you did with the Bridge Club but from frame-set up!