Is Travis Scott The Last Real Superstar In Rap?
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2024
- Conversations about star power in rap have been popping up recently and how things aren't looking too great for the future. In this video I give my take on superstardom in rap and how Travis Scott might be the last of a dying breed. #rap #travisscott #hiphop
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Carti definitely has the potential and imo has been capable of reaching that level since around late 2021-2022 but the problem with him is that he’s never fully locked in the way travis has. He doesn’t ever go his hardest in terms of touring, consistently dropping music and being present to become a superstar. He’s currently the 43rd most listened to artist on Spotify with 51 million monthly listeners with no new album in almost 3 and a half years. If he had put his new songs on streaming, dropped his album and then gone on tour I guarantee he’d be at least top 30
Edit: he’s now 36th on Spotify with 55 million. If he drops the album it’s pretty much a wrap.
I'd argue maybe even top 15 tbh
I don't think he could be a superstar because although he is super influential he lacks the accessibility and hits of the big superstars
@@S4IF666 I could see that. I used top the 30 as a baseline cause that’s the minimum I’d expect just based off current hype and anticipation but if the album is well received by critics and fans it’d give him the kind of commercial legs utopia gave trav that would carry him into that top 15-20 range. Delivering on an album can really make or break an artist both commercially and culturally these days. We saw what happened when Jack and baby failed to deliver with their albums. Not only did they lose their momentum they actually took steps backwards in their careers because the albums weren’t well received and the narrative became they’re overrated and overhyped
@@SM_MEX I see what you’re saying but I think carti has gotten to a point to where he’s so beloved and well known that he’s actually become one of the few guys that can kind of get away with not being super commercial or radio friendly. Like utopia (despite having hits like I know and fein) was nowhere near as accessible an album as astroworld but because Travis’ name holds so much weight he was still able to do record numbers with it.
Carti hasn’t had a solo hit in years. He has a very dedicated fan base but Uzi or 21 are more of a superstar atm than Carti atm
I think to be The Next Superstar isn't just about having good music, it's about how you market yourself. (1/2)
Rappers are not putting themselves in a position for them to expand their fanbase. Doing a 25 song album with no features, not dropping on time and copy whatever is trending on TikTok isn't safe for a career longevity.
i like your vision
i wish one day i have a manager like you
with my talent and your vision we can take over @@mathis_mbu
I’d argue it’s the opposite. A lot of upcoming stars are all marketing with mid music. Look at ice spice and Jack Harlow
A lot of rappers do 25 song albums with the whole industry on features lol. @@mathis_mbu
That's what ppl dnt understand... idc how good a rapper is, being a superstar is way more... I think the last superstar we had is PopSmoke and KingVon... they was just so popular outside of music... also XXX and JuiceWrld .. all 4 died which is why we dnt have a superstar rn
Kanye (Ye) is the only Rap artist that sets era's and pushes the genre forward. He the only one that can pro up (male) artists and turning them into superstars. He did it with Drake, he did it with Travis, was trying to do it with XXXtentacion and now trying to do it with Carti. If you are really want to look for "superstars" Kanye is the one that does this on consistent basis.Because he knows and is the culture. Drake tried the way Kanye had done it, by cosinging or highlighting up-and-coming artist, but they all eventually fell off.
I think you bring up an interesting point here about the difference between Drake and Kanye. I think the reason Drakes “artists” fall off is because his talent lies in creating trends and viral moments as opposed to Kanye that focuses on the actual art. So when Kanye supports an upcoming artist it’s because he sees something in their music instead of popularity. That’s why artists that are endorsed by Kanye have better careers because they all have unique sounds and aren’t just some viral trend.
I don't think this is fair to credit Kanye in this way while leaving out how poorly he treated his good music artists. He attaches himself to just as many artists that fade away into obscurity, but the big ones he's glommed onto overshadow the other ones.
TY FOR TALKING ABT KANYE. THE FACT THE PPL TRY TO SAY DRAKE IS BETTER THAN HIM WILL ALWAYS BLOW ME.
The main difference is drake hops on their song. And ye makes the guys write songs for him. @@Jaywav18
That’s such an interesting point about Kanye actually trying to do it with X. Bc if yhandi had come out there was going to be at least 1 feature from him based on the leaks and then to see that Kanye had 2 more songs in the vault that ended up on donda 2 that’s pretty interesting bc he rlly is doing the exact same thing with carti rn except the songs are just seeing the light of day and carti is around to be supported
i think if MUSIC is as good as it sounds, we can definitely expect Carti & Travis to be the new Drake & Kendrick of the 2020s
Carti is ass
Bro ain’t no way you said kendocj
wat typa comparison is this😂😂😂😂
What a downgrade smh
You thought you were cooking with this comment?💀🤦
Probably maybe carti but he might be a little more controversial weirdly
There’s always room for new stars. When they need one they’ll pull someone up the way they did Travis.
It’s hard for rap to break that ceiling now with everything being being so explicit it can only go so far imo. Love the video bro appreciate it !
Yes Trav is the last true superstar from 2015-now. Lil Baby fumbled his momentum and Carti have an argument too but I think they’re a tier below superstars and haven’t proven enough. Cardi B has one album and is more of a social media personality who raps than an artist.
i really thought lil baby was gon take over like drake🤦🏿♂️
@@luiz_fuego his music hasn’t evolved in three years to me. He’s the most popular of the 2020-now generation but I don’t think he’ll be a superstar like guys of the past
carti would need to change his style bc this moaning mumble rap is getting old now. dababy probs would've been close if he didn't ruin himself but idk jack harlow probs has a chance if his next album doesnt flop
@@chloeeig carti changes his style every album
@@luiz_fuego lol plz bffr
I don’t think he’s ever been overseas but in the United States Rod Wave should be seen as a superstar. Consistently sells over 100k and just did back to back arena tours.
Rod Wave's concerts are amazing too. He's a real talent
Really appreciate your videos pay, good honest levelheaded rap commentary is rare nowadays and I can see you getting better at making videos over time✊
Travis is my favorite artist and I’d say he’s the best in rap and 100 percent a superstar. I also think that a lot of artists, have made a mark on the genre, like carti, kayne, 21, Uzi, sheck Wes, Migos, Drake, lil Wayne, Kendrick, Future etc, are all super important to the genre, because there all the most known names. in this generations rap ,some of us have seen some of these artists go from underground to huge, mainstream staples in rap. I think a lot of those artists dropping last year into now definitely helps the genre as a whole. I do think being able to sell out an arena definitely makes you a superstar and not every artist can. I don’t think most of the artists I named would have the problem of being able to sell out a crowd. I would say not the last but currently ,it’s only the most popular of this era and more well known artists that have already built that connection, with there fans, being so mainstream.
X and Juice (even though i don’t like them) were very much on pace. I think Carti and in a way Metro Boomin
Metro is an interesting choice
That’s what I said too!! Depending on how his 3 albums do this year.
metro boomin isnt a rapper hes a producer
@@chloeeig “ superstar in rap “
@@tigerxxd he has never rapped, hes a producer lol so sure a superstar producer ig
Your viewpoints on this topic were very interesting and for the most part i agree. Especially with your final point about superstardom bevoming a more digital phenomenon. Well said
U doing great fam like i swear you had like 5k sum subs almost a year ago love the channel growth much love from ohio🖤
I think the constant we see with people who become stars they capture the zeitgeist of their time whilst also having unique creativity
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Tuned in.
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I’m coming tho , trustt in the boy 🤝🤝
Jack Harlow is being set up to be the superstar of this decade, his team markets him really well and he’s had hits every year since he blew up. The only thing stopping him is that core hip hop fans don’t really respect him
Core hip hop fans don’t respect him cuz he make Pop music same reason they don’t respect Drake
@@MonkeyDJaden75pop rap has been a thing, and drake been always on top so
Great video!
Juice woulda been running shit rn
I don’t really think so. He had a bad drug addiction and if he didn’t, he wouldn’t have anything to rap about imo
@@orengepoopHave you heard any of his unreleased? He left thousands and most are literal hits lol. He would’ve been on top
def juice and x
My fav album ever is Rodeo
Is lit 🔥🙏
There will be more rap superstars.
The new crop of talent just have to adapt to the way things are.
This entire decade so far has been a cleanse. Cleansing life as we know it so it just takes someone who is savy enough to manuever in a increasingly fickle landscape.
I agree, i remember when nwts leaked, Kanye vs cole and crazyyyy collabd
honestly i think 21 is pretty close up there but he's kinda underrated but definitely has the potential to be "superstar" also carti if he was dropping consistently I'm pretty sure he gonna be up there i mean the guy doesn't drop shit but he has the entire industry on his palm
He’s not known worldwide
He’s more know man that cart and tbh he’s right there with Travis Scott
most rappers make niche music like the soundcloud rapper even the trap rapper no-one is making commercial hip hop music any more
Facts
They try to make hit songs but nothing is catching on ,
That's true. Everyone's experimenting with every new album release with a different style.
Whatever it looks like in 5-10 years, it’s safe to say Travis won’t be the only one.
yea cuz niggas like me still alive
YEAT 🛸
He ain't quite there yet but he is on the upward trajectory! Give it 2-3 years from now and we shall see! Yeat just needs a bit of a better promo and hit song placement apparatus, that's all. As We Speak with Drake would've almost certainly been a certified hit if he put that song on the initial 2093 P1 at like the top of the album. And also the promo for 2093 was very cool and built up hype but he started the promo too soon before he dropped the album, and the release date kind of then came out of nowhere to many non-Yeat fans. Yeat sold 70k on 2093 which is double the 35k he sold for 2 Alive (his first mainstream breakout tape imo) sold so he definitely hasn't' reached his ceiling yet and he probably could've sold 100k already on 2093 if certain aspects of the album rollout were a bit better. He's still growing though if he plays his cards right I think he could become a superstar in a few years! But let's be honest though at the same time Yeat is definitely not in a position right now where he's consistently selling our arenas.
Raps definitely fallen off. And I think it's mostly due to how boring and basic all the music sounds nowadays. Everyone sounds the same and talk about sex drugs and murder. what made rap blow up was people talking about more in depth topics and getting real. We have a lack of that nowadays and most people don't wanna hear that shit. So thats why i think raps fallen off
💯 and all the good music gets overshadowed by the 🗑️
I think depending on how these three (at least) albums by Metro do this year, he can be known as a superstar even as a producer and beat maker.
im still here finna do it
carti is next up
to flop
cart been next up for 8 years
He has 50m monthly listeners bro 😂
gen-z big 3 are dead so they won't carry the torch
Idea for a drinking game:
Watch this video and take a shot every time he says “superstar” or “superstardom” 😂
I think you hit it on the head when you said that superstardom looks different now. We live in a different world. The gatekeepers of music are dying. With distro and streaming and social media, it’s so much easier for artist to do everything themselves and market straight to the fans. And from a listener perspective, there’s so much good music out there. it’s easier to find a pocket of music you like and fall deeper and deeper into that rabbit hole. So the music isn’t the differentiator it’s the artist themselves. And more money lies with those deep fans than with a bunch of casual fans. So the concept of superstardom is less profitable. Which will make it so less people aspire towards that, which will kill off more of the gatekeepers, which will make it harder to become a superstar and so on and so forth till the concept as we know it is near dead.
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dababy would've had a chance if he didn't blow his career due to controversy, cardi b wouldve had possibly 1 more chance if she were to drop her 2nd album during her prime and carti only has 1 flow, which is getting old. idk maybe jack harlow can if his next project doesn't flop, or even doja cat.
honorable mentions : pop smoke and x had a decent sound and following, and big impact so most likely would've gotten somewhere if they had time
the meaning of rap is Rhymes And Poetries Utopia is not a real rap album the production was just high level
people don't understand why Killer Mike won 3 grammies recently he not even a superstar i never heard i bout Mike before 2023 but i got the chance to listen to his last album thanks to the BreackFastClub
He a Atlanta legend he got talent
Trav Carti Tyler
Tyler is been falling off since 2021
@@S4IF666 He sold his highest first week sales ever in 2021 and did $33 million in ticket sales. He’s bigger than he’s ever been.
XXX and juice were the ones with the biggest potential to become superstars that sadly passed away
But currently Tyler still has potential to become one, considering his career has only risen
Future and Metro are some other names that come to mind too
What about rod wave ? Could we consider him to be a superstar ? Lyric jacking aside ?
Yeah, he could be...or maybe not superstar level but he definitely has a strong fanbase. It's incredible, I barely listen to him but he moves droves of people
Bro you gotta touch up these locks fr
Imma be honest i don't even know why Travis is so popular. He's basic, no thought provoking lyrics, he doesn't preach, autotuned to the max ( fein was cool but that's only cuz I thought it was originally playboy carti ATM) isn't lyrical, he doesn't do many interviews/ Livestreams so we can fall in love with his personality.
Then again this is coming from someone who isn't even a casual fan of him if y'all know 50+ bangers since he came in the rap game feel free to shut me up and show the proof
The only positives i can think of is beat selections, features, maybe his live performances, he banged Kylie Jenner lol and " it's lit"
Well, I think the fact that he doesn’t have a specific message other getting lit and having fun is why he’s so popular. It’s very inoffensive, and it doesn’t hurt that he has some of the most polished production on the game. In addition, with his simple lyrics it means that his fans can memorize them easier. This is important because when he goes to preform it’s always incredibly high energy, so fans feel like they’re able to participate. I think preaching in raps is kinda risky. The reason for this is, it’s very easy to come off as corny, and seemingly holier than thou. Finally, him not doing a lot of interviews plays into his favor because it means people will tune in specifically to his music to see what he has to say on a given topic. One example of this is the AstroWorld tragedy.
The day cash carti returns from all ts is the day we will get superstar carti
I think you all are sleeping on my man Jack, he has the potential still...
Idk can’t get over the fact he’s really a culture vulture and really overrated in my opinion
He a Pop Rapper bro he not no superstar 😂
what i was thinking, he has 3 #1s and been pretty stable on billboard and spotify charts, if his next album doesn't flop he might do good
@@MonkeyDJaden75drake is a pop rapper..
@@datzy7340 how is he a culture vulture fam?
I don't care what u think, juice WRLD woulda been the next Travis Scott,a lot of his unreleased are no 1 hits,he was gonna be the next superstar, RIP 🕊️
i think carti has the most potenitial to be the next superstar, hes around ye and travis alot and look how travis came up. He was and still is kanyes prodigy, easily his most successful prodigy. So if carti sticks around ye and trav and kind of drifts off into the mainstream and kind of (sells out) and what i mean by (selling out) is making a goosebumps level hit, sickomode hit, like making mainstream hits, he can be on that mount rushmore with ye,travis,drake,kendrick,cole.
I mean we still have carti, frank, tyler, keem, asap rocky but they just dont drop but so did travis he didnt drop in 5 years but if juice was still alive I believe he would been in discussion
Besides Frank who isn’t a rapper, none of those guys are superstars. Carti and Keem have the potential but Tyler and asap aren’t at the level of superstar like kanye, Drake, lil Wayne, etc
@@brandontellis Tyler is more successful than carti and keen wtf are you talking about and asap rocky and Tyler has way more potential than carti and keem rocky was huge when he dropped his shit he hasn’t made an album since 2015 tho
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I feel like Carti can be qualified as a superstar
He’s almost there. After vultures 2 and his album. Maybe
Great topic!! I was just telling somebody the other day that its crazy to think we are stuck with the same superstars because the newer ones for this generation died too early. I be feeling like a old head speaking on the comeup of Drake, Cole & Kendrick but that was the last wave of artists that came in the game with different sounds, now its like the newer rappers are only focused on the exposure than the talent. Playboi is def a superstar in the making&this album has shown he is on the cuffs, not only is this the most he's dropped, his loosies are doing millions of views, fans of his are desperate to see and hear him and he just picked up a #1 song thanks to Ye (before his album even dropped), if he sold merch and was more of a brand focused artist he'd be on Travis level, Lil baby missed his opportunity, Ice Spice no and if her album is a flop then deff no, Durk has reached his ceiling imo & Gunna honestly would have been on his way after DS4 & "Pushing P" but the indictment derailed that and his rep now is of a rat.
UZI MY GUY LIL UZI IS THE NAME YOU LOOKING FOR
Uzi has peaked unfortunately
@@theantisocialsociety7417 yh maybe but we all thought the same about carti and ye and everytime they all drop its 100K plus
Uzo is big ,but not a superstar like Travis...but I listen to Uzi more @@Spiritualdegenerate
Only if his marketing team was actually good. Hopefully he actually treats lir3 like a huge album.
ong we need new ppl i love trav (hes literally my icon) i love drake i love nicki etc but i need new ppl new “artists” i dont need ice spice i dont need sexyy redd i need new ppl
Polo G and Roddy rich were on that path, maybe even kid laroi if you consider him a rapper. They could still revive their careers though.
Tyler is another person that has a massive fanbase within rap but I just don't see appealing to people who don't listen to rap.
Rod wave is doing huge numbers and selling out arenas across the country but people don’t really see him as a rapper i guess
21 is the closest one but i dont think he’s done arenas as the headliner. Carti could easily be a proper superstar but he to mysterious
Carti Uzi Travis youngboy Rod wave are all superstars
bro carti could be next superstar but that boi not taking anything serious
For real he locks in its over he could take off
Carti just missing hits , once he gets more hits like magnolia it’s over with
The reason why we don’t have superstars too to add to my comment is that the superstars we have that are pushing 30 plus lowkey don’t like to see youngins win for example everyone knows drake for trend/culture hopping with songs so it kinda holds the original artist of that style back unless if drake gives them a feature but what’s the chances of that, why do u think X called him out on his KMT song even nicki she got beef with Megan and I ain’t saying Megan can’t be on nicki level but u can kinda see whenever a new act is hot and they lowkey pass nicki she gets salty that’s why she had beef with cardi b cuz at the time cardi had a good ass run and even over shadows her at some point so it’s a hate game behind the scene in my opinion that we don’t see cuz let’s not forget drake and nicki had some hater moments on other artist
Tyler
I'd say uzi and carti are young superstars and young boy definitely has a chance to be a superstar when he gets off house arrest and rod wave has the potential to be a superstar.
Travis is the only superstar and last but I think we can have another and the only way is for someone to introduce something new to the table to where the whole industry wants to ride there dick plus they must always be evolving cuz every super star evolves and they must have the image and the people that I can say that had it was X,pop,juice but they all had a untimely death but upcoming artist can become superstars but the only thing I think that kills it is one beefs,beefs stop people from collabin which is bad like even the underground knows that u have to collab with someone to atleast make a name.2 big artist don’t show enough love to small artists who may have potential which kills it and the reason why I say that is cuz it’s tru for example drake came out tryna make it in something whether acting or music and record labels seen his potential and now look at him now.3 artist labels are the problem because they want them to hop on trends when they forget the artist is the one that makes the trend for example when Travis antidote came out it was a hit but mainly because it became a meme because of vine.i feel like that’s why we don’t have superstars
y'all think anyone will be able to pas up drakes status? will rap fall off from the mainstream if it never happens?
The underground can
Let’s not act like drakes new music is as good as his old
Just clicked on this to shit on it and see other’s comments
carti really on his way, but i feel he doesn't have the same mainstream comercial appeal
JID
Redveil
Carti
Yeat definitely I think JID and yeat are here.
I mean maybe moneybag yo I mean if he promotes himself right,
Baby Keem
Chance is coming back
21 Savage I feel American Dream is grea
I mean s lot of underground guys who I think are next in line for that underground title
MIKE
Lord sko
Mavi(maybe I guess a little too much like earl)
I stay being early
lil peep could've been a superstar had he not passed. rip
what about lil uzi ?
Doja is also selling out stadiums globally! ... but what????
70,000 first week sales
Did Travis Scott make the title for this video? Because 😅😂
I think Carti & Yeat are next all they need is a big brand like Mc Donald’s
They'll never be that big ........it's hard today to produce a real superstar regardless of the industry....social media and fragmented entertainment has caused this issue 😊
@@khesipresents1885Carti is def up next ldk what ur talking bout
yeat is not even close to carti level
@@clamnlmb i know you're fan..but facts don't care
@@clamnlmbpeople have said Carti is next up for fucking years. When is that when he’s never locked in.
I say the next superstar will be a female rapper. Doja Cat to me is a superstar. And maybe Lil Nas X.
Doja isn’t that famous, and lil nas x fell off already
Doja not a superstar
@@Z4NKA1I wouldn’t say lol bad x fell off since his last album produced 3 number 1’s and was everywhere. He just has been quiet.
If Ken Carson really matures, and if Don Toliver matures, they could both reach superstardom.
I can confidently say Travis Scott will not be the last superstar of rap. My time has not yet come.
Jcole maybe
Wait till Ice Spice drops her album and Tour . 💯
Hate to say it but heat might have that potential
I would probably say it’s Travis and Metro. I can’t rly think of anyone else. Maybe JID? But he doesn’t get the recognition he deserves
Jid is not a superstar,neither is metro ...all big but not top tier superstars
Jid won’t ever be a superstar. Not everyone is into fast rap. Even though I enjoy Jid a lot.
It can be Carti
Was 69 a super star. During his rise?
No
@iusedtobepay do u think if juice and xxxtentacion were alive they would be superstars
youngboy?
bye 😭
So we gon forget about Kanye?
What about Teezo?
Lack because everybody wants to sound like everybody else... But y'all don't want to hear that 😂
21 savage def a super star
He’s got 2 good albums bruh
In the long run yo kids gone hear Travis Scott a lot or more of sumbody else?
no
He was never a superstar
Him, Playboi Carti And rappers of that caliber were only made famous because all the little boys that girls never talk to an elementary school. Who didn’t quite fit in with the other black boys because they were from the suburbs Finally had somebody to look up to. But please, let’s be clear superstars. They are not.
Carti is the last
21 savage
not even close
@@-jaredwannatastemyfootlongmost definitely dude he’s got the same monthly listeners on Spotify as trav and easily one of the biggest artists today 💀
@@stickyfingerssixtynine7443 because of drake and the weekend. I went to his show, he dont got no superstar crowds.
@@-jaredwannatastemyfootlongnice anecdote but his number one song on spotify and apple are singles
@@stickyfingerssixtynine7443 what he had before the drake album and weekend feature?
no.
Ye and Gunna don’t exist?
Gunna ain’t a superstar he ain’t mainstream like Travis.
I disagree personally. I’d say yuno miles, but only objectively or factually.
Kanye is the only superstar in rap
Drake is the biggest rapper in the world
America not the world*
@@iusedtobepayNo he’s not, he’s a pop con, not rapper. Kanye is the biggest rapper in the world, and is currently over Drake at the moment.
Kanye is a legend but drake surpassed him mainstream wise.....@@kanyasmr
@@khesipresents1885 def not in the grand scheme of shit Kanye is more important than
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Incredibly early, but depending on what 4batz does in his career, doesn’t keep that same exact sound throughout, maybe he’ll be a superstar one day. How he blew up so fast I’ve never seen before. I do fuck with his music. Is he an industry plant? Maybe. But if he proves his music pushes his sales and not just marketing, he’s got it
NF is someone that comes to mind for me. He's been getting 100k album sales lately, and has been selling out shows in and out of the U.S. He's sold out some arenas recently, has a good body of work, one of the most passionate and large fanbases in Gen Z rap. Most importantly, he did all of this with no cosigns and without other larger artists propping him up (Kanye or Drake). He's just not a household name (because of privacy and the music industry), but that doesn't mean he isn't popular or doesn't have a large following equivalent to superstardom. NF to me is one of those superstars in my opinion.
No 😂
@@DarshawnDriggins_1999 Ok, you can disagree and that's fine, But why do you disagree?
he's local and not mainstream 😭
@@chloeeig He's a mainstream artist, he's signed to the record label Capitol CMG and has songs that have been played on the radio. Again, he's not a household name.
@@jmbeats3308 sorry but no one talks about him nor he done anything globally or record breaking therefore not a global superstar
You said the word “future” a thousand times but didn’t even mention my boy FUTURE ! Boss a legit superstar 💯🫡
He means like upcoming superstars. Future has always been a superstar. Boring. We need new people