I love the idea of the scrapper, I think it's genius. Sacrificing some power now for some potential greater power later. Really "risk" (forgive the pun) vs reward gameplay, which I personally love.
I also really like how its time consuming to use scrappers, so if you find a really good printer and a scrapper on the level, youre going to have to take time to run back and forth to get everything done, making the game more difficult in the process. Nothing is ever free in ror..
Other than the new, uh, dimension, ROR2 seems to offer a lot of "you get more control over this... For a price" things than ROR1. The scrapper fits into this pretty well.
Scrapping reds: When the Captain's Defensive Microbots respawned every stage, you would always scrap them after the teleporter event in the (admittedly slim) chance of finding a milspec printer. Its since been patched out, but *technically* it was a red that was always-scrappable.
Fireworks are the best item in the game, change my mind. Find a fire works printer, trade everything, free money everytime you open anything. Run through levels and get mad chests, kill boss with fireworks from teleporter. Rinse and repeat
I just commented about the same thing, wondering if I was the only one who does this😂. I agree totally, it fucks up visual clarity by a lot and that’s a big deal in such a chaotic game where you need to be able to notice enemies to do well. I’ve actually wondered if hopoo games knew this item to be a visual issue or not, or if they just keep it like that for the meme lmao. An incredibly distracting item in any case
Your videos have got me through the game, thank you. Started off as bad as any noob, destroyed 5 times in probably 15 minutes of play lol. Now after about 20 hours, got all the characters, working on the items, skills, commands, unlocks. Couldn't have made it this far without your knowledge, thanks for sharing brother!
Mr. Streamer, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Always scrap all your greens except chronobobble because on the chance that you find a chronobobble printer that can make your run.
Late game happiest mask can get you killed, seeing as void reaver explosions kill friendlies. I always scrap my masks, seeing as I don't want to get instakilled by a "friendly".
I think there’s a reasonable case to make for scrapping certain red items if, and only if, they actively conflict with your play style. For example, if you find the altered jumping mechanics with head stomp annoying, and see a scrapper nearby when one drops, it’s better just to grab and scrap than not take the red at all; same for desk plant on sacrifice runs to avoid cluttering, happiest mask if you have a clover to avoid an onset of annoying ghosts etc.. Also of note that if you’re playing with chaos grabbing and scrapping happiest mask or brilliant Behemoth is definitely worth it because taking those two items could be shooting yourself in the foot anyway. Of course, a recycler is better in these situations, but if you don’t have one or have already rolled once, it’s worth bearing in mind.
I think it's important to mention that the scrapper is technically considered an item pickup, and so will not activate fireworks or squid polyps (you can see this by the fact that pinning a scrapper gives the same icon as an item or a lunar coin).
My personal tip on Mithrix runs: Find a scrapper on the purple stage before the final stage and scrap everything that will give him the advantage on the final phase, e. g. Tesla Coils, Crowbars, etc. Also, scrap some on-kill green and white items as they are practically useless on the final boss. Who knows you might run into a really good item cauldron on the final stage.
One last thing, if you can find a printer on the last stage for good items that you already have, scrap all the items and print them again. This method will rearrange them as the latest item, which you will get first during Mithrix' final phase.
If I’m doing mithrix/eclipse runs, I typically print items at stage 4/5 until I have a multiple of 3 white items so I can use those at the cauldrons on soup island. Likewise, multiples of 5 for greens, but only if I have terrible green items as there is a chance a red soup cauldron will not spawn. I never go off these multiple because having more or less scrap than these means those are wasted items.
I’m loving the content and guides, these have really helped improve my runs! I have been having a little trouble with the Alloy Worship Unit lately, and I was wondering if you’d have any tips on when/how to fight it effectively. Like I said, loving the content!
i once was blessed with a Sentient Meat Hook printer, and had 4 reds in my inventory. after that stage i had 4 meat hooks and proceeded with a god run :D (with commando btw)
Exception for scrapping reds: If you want to use the order shrine and make it a 50/50 chance between more red scrap or whatever you were planning to dupe.
I will often scrap Happiest Mask and the Headhunter when I'm not in the first loop because I find their benefit to be not worth the amount of visual clutter they introduce. Both of these also force you to dodge friendly attacks at times, like your own malachite puddles and vagrant explosions, which puts even more risk on you in hectic situations.
It also should bear mentioning that the Bazaar cauldrons also prioritizes Scrap and if you need those early greens or can sacrifice a bunch of greens, then you get basically a free red
For yellows there's rarely any reason to scrap yellows, even if they're on the same stage. Chances are you're not going to have many different yellow items, if more than one even, and chances are that if you find a yellow printer you like, you're going to be happy to convert all your yellows to a nice stack of that item. I was once having a rather lousy run as Captain, when I found both a Little Helper printer and an Energy Drink printer on the same stage. I had three Genesis Loops (due to some mountain shrines) and a Queen's Gland, and already had several Goat Hoofs and a pair of Red Whips. My build otherwise was pretty awful and I was barely surviving. I decided it was the perfect time to embrace the meme given to me, and just turn into a fireball spewing blur. From that point on it transitioned into a lulzy god run.
Little Disciple is honestly my favorite boss item in the entire game. Summoning an ATG missile 1-2x every single second just for moving around, not even actively firing like you have to do for ATGs and only spawning one every few seconds? That's already broken even with no movespeed increases at all, and you can even make a win condition out of if you can get more movement speed. Compared to a Perforator which is basically just a "Will-o-the-Wisp +" with how inaccurate and impractical the fireballs are for single-target or even multi-target combat, a Mired Urn which is dependent on melee range and can be potentially dangerous in multiplayer, or even a Shatterspleen if you don't have much crit, Little Disciple is always useful and it is always powerful. I think Woolie's really sleeping on Little Disciple. It's as good as a red and if it was a green, it'd be the best green in the game.
@@TarlukLegion yeah, but compared to shatterspleen.... with shatterspleen you literally get the most broken effect in the entire game (bleed) with a 100% chance proc if you have capped your crit. it gives you an extra 5% chance on the first time you pick it up. AND it explodes.
ok you say avoid scarpping greens but frankly when I have a poglyp I always scrap it. even considering the unlikelihood of finding a good green printer, it and scrap are nearly equal in value.
Engineer here. There is ONE exception to this rule if you use stationary turrets. ALWAYS scrap the urn if you get it in a level that has a scrapper otherwise DON'T TAKE IT. The urn works also between minions so the turrets will leech eachother without really healing eachother (the amount that you remove from others is greater than the healing you get from them) so it literally kills your gameplay at lower level and it is obsolete at higher levels when you have 10+ fungi carrying your bonkers regen
A piece of additional advice that not many people seem to think of: if you're late in a god run, say 1.5-2 hours, you probably have tons of goat hooves/energy drinks and are struggling to move around the map, you can scrap 10 energy drinks or goat hooves and your life will instantly become much better (I personally tend to stay at around 30 total speed items and scrap if I were to go above 50) Also you missed to mention items that should definitely be scrapped before fighting mithrix, like the Genesis Loop as they may fuck you over in the last phase
tbh when I see a medkit printer I usually stack a few of them, they're pretty good at sustaining Mithrix's damage when you get all your life back after every hit, provided you have the mobility to not take two hits in a row. I'm not sure it resets the OS protection though, last time I got to check it I ended up not needing it at all. Well, that's for Eclipse runs anyway, they're pretty worthless for the chaos stages 10+ can become.
Thanks for the scrapper guide, also for anyone who hasn't turned anything into scrap yet, such as console players, scrap at least one item of every rarity so you unlock the logbook entry for the scrap. Hey Woolie, I'm having the hardest time with understanding Captain, I just can't play him effectively and I just don't know what it is.
Get some tri tip daggers and movement items any chance you can. His M1 is probably the best in the game, stay rather close to the enemies in the beginning and you will do enough damage. Once you have enough attack speed your M1 charges faster, so you can take a more save route by staying further away. Pack the hacking beacons and dont be greedy with them, on the first 2 stages I usually just open the first chest I see (unless I have a shrine or a big chest in sight ofc) after that I tend to be a bit more greedy with it, but not too much either. If you have to wait for enemies to spawn so you can make some cash, just use the beacon instead and save time. Hope for the red map on stage 4 and get that legendary item for free. After stage 5 the beacons are more or less useless, but they are super strong early in the game. I find captain to be the easiest surviver to get a god run with if you follow what I just layed down for you. I feel you also have to aim a bit more precise than with most other characters, but I am a terrible aimer and I can still make it work. Tri Tip dagger is so awesome, because 1 shot of the M1 is actually 8 bullets, each with a proccoeff of 1, so you are basically guaranteed to bleed your opponent with just 1 dagger. This also applies to other on hit effect, thats why he is probably the best survivor in the game at this moment.
Me and some homies were doing an all commando run, and I somehow managed to get a rejuvenation rack, n’kuahana’s opinion, and mired urn. It was early on too, so I was basically immortal lmao
Great information, although I would absolutely recommend scrapping useless reds and yellows if you find a scrapper on stage 5 (ie things that wouldn't benefit you into a Mithrix fight) just without picking up the scrap. Do NOT pick up the scrap! Disc, brainstalks, vultures, desk plant, catalyst, relic, dagger, mask etc. alongside the yellows mentioned in the video are essentially useless items by that point, when only single target damage is valuable, or basically a negligible benefit during Mithrix's phase 2. This goes for whites and greens too, which you should scrap only in multiples of 3 and 5 respectively, for use at the soup island (picking up the items you trade for there is optional). To me this is crucial in my gameplan doing Eclipse 8 runs. I feel it makes all the difference to never go into the Mithrix fight with more items than you need, and no scrap. Of course reliant on the chance you get a stage 5 scrapper. I choose not to pick up bad items on that stage unless I can find one
The only time I scrap reds is if I'm playing a melee character and I have a tesla coil, and I'm about to fight mithrix. After the stage 5 teleporter, I scrap it so I do not have to fight it in phase 4.
@@2911oscar razorwire, tougher times, crowbars and mired urn are the only items he can't use, he can use everything else though which includes tesla coil
What should I do if my goal is to beat Monsoon with a given character as fast as possible, either from Mithrix or Obliteration? When should I fight the boss and when should I loop? If I'm not having a good run or lacking in something like defense, healing, mobility, or attack by the time it's decision time should I fight boss or loop and hope for what I'm missing?
I dunno if you're still struggling with this or not (probably not, it's been a year), but I wandered across some advice that I have used successfully to just get the masteries. Do a monsoon run with the artifacts command and sacrifice, stack up some mushrooms and razorwire (3-5 of each will do), and get to the blue portal asap after you got those things. Go to the void fields, push through to the 7th stage (max enemies with the least amount of items) and just chill in the void while you farm up loot to get the optimal build you want. Then proceed to go through and do either Mithrix or Obliterate, depending on the mood.
@@leadpaintchips9461 I have barely touched the game for a year so yeah I kind of stopped focusing on roguelikes for awhile and started playing more stuff I could make measurable progress in, plus I was able to loop in the normal difficulty one or two times while playing with someone else and even once on my own but there's no endgame, no goal, once you defeat the boss it's just lasting as long as you can and it makes the end result feel rather shallow, like there's not much point in playing any further once I unlock all the characters aside from getting their alternate abilities, but I haven't really felt like playing the game for awhile.
To anyone reading this now, there is actually more of a use for red scrap since there can be common soup cauldrons on commencement, which take a red and give three commons. Still generally not worth it unless you have a red that is actively detrimental to your run or one that is completely useless.
anyone know what the last red item is and how to unlock it? It's the circle one, I think it's new cause I play this game every day, never come across it
That would be Captain's defensive microbot. To get the entry, you need to kill his Umbra (using Artifact of Vengeance) while having no other items. Easiest way to do it is to complete stage 1 on drizzle without items, and just wait for it to spawn at the 10 minute mark. Don't ask me why it works like this, it just does.
The Captain's Passive, defensive microbots. You can't unlock it because it can only be obtained by the Captain, OR if you use the artifact of vengeance, wait 10 minutes on stage 1 with no items, and kill the doppelganger. If you do the former, then you can pick it up because it will be a guaranteed drop if you have no other items. The Captain can scrap it and lose it (or gain more stacks of it) at shrines of order.
I remember being able to scrap the captain's passive red for a red scrap, and getting it back at the next stage for free, while still keeping the red scrap. Have they patched that? Cause i used to do that after every boss just because i could. (but there's the point that you won't find a red printer unless you plan for a 20 stage run or so, yadayada, just saying)
On my long runs i scrap all my bad whites, turn them in to bulk greens at the blue shop. Then scrap those to turn them in to reds once i get a good one. Easy guaranteed 20+ stage runs every time
I would have mentioned that you might often want to scrap on stage 5 before heading to Mithrix if you have items you definitely don't need for the fight that would be a pain for him to have. In fact, it can even be better to scrap them and not pick up the scrap so you get your useful items back from him sooner in the 4th phase.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Oh, I like that idea even better. Didn't think of it. Are you guaranteed at least one red and green cauldron on Commencement every time?
I had a head set once and the jump height was actually awful for me since I couldn't spam the sprint jumps for easy reposition with Wax Quail, which lost me the run in the end, so tbh I wish I had scrapped it...
I'm going to have to disagree on the green scrap. As long as you know how to make it to the Bazaar, you can use it for a trade-in on a red. Turning your chrono, bandolier, whips, or whatever weak greens you get into scrap to guarantee you don't lose your good ones to the red cauldron is invaluable.
Hey Woolie, is double rebar puncher better for eclipse/ monsoon runs? I thought your most recent teir list recommended rebar and nailgun combo but i see u double rebar pretty hard in this background footage. Jw! thnks for all the great ROR2 info
10 Red Whips, 1-10 Goat Hoofs, 1 Energy Drink and 1+ Little Disciple is good fun. I think Little Disciple procs all on hits, so after crit, bleed, ATG Missiles, Ukulele's etc. is very VERY good fun... Even though you're literally ONLY sprinting. This is me saying that i've really grown fond of Red Whips + Disciple, and even though Little Disciple may be a bit (a LOT) of OP cheese under these circumstances, i hope they won't nerf it too hard. I wouldn't think Hopoo would do that though, otherwise he would have nerfed Bleed beforehand, which he already stated that he won't. Btw, Acrid looks amazing with 1000+ Movement speed while sprinting :3
I dont know if I got fortunate, but I only see red/yellow printers when i have red/yellow scrap. do you have a higher chance of getting a printer if you have that colour scrap?
You forgot a small detail about scrapping red items, if you for example, take a wake of vultures as Rex, it could really mess up your run, since turning half of your hp to shields seriously cripples rex's ability to survive and to attack, that is the only red item that I would scrap, on that specific survivor.
Tbh I scrap happiest masks because they make my game lag too much. Also lepton daisy because every lepton daisy is one more middle finger from the game up my backside. Yes, I am both poor and bitter.
I do the same thing with the mask, not just for the lag (although very true lol) but also because you can get an allied void reaver and it can still one shot you even though it’s your ally!! I hope people see these comments. Be careful if you have a happiest mask in a run everybody
@@Lord_Talha another good point! Then if you got like a ceremonial dagger printer (pretty sure red printers are more common as the game scales up to higher difficulty) then it’s such a powerful trade for a long run. It’s sad when you only get desk plant printers to spawn tho 😂
@@Lord_Talha It does fully stop fall damage... which is important. While fall damage can't kill you that little bit of damage can often put you under 90% health.
I would never scrap a little disciple... withe a few (or a ton) of movement items? it just destroys everything while giving me the ability to run away...
I do scrap some reds just because they either get in the way of sight or can harm you i.e. happiest mask. Usually do greens when they aren't providing massive benefits, and commons that don't add assist in any way (staring at fungus as any character other than engi) \-_-/ all I can say
Scrapper is sick good and I love it all the time I see it. The tip for not scrapping in the very beginning sounds pretty damn valid, but with keys, warbanners, fireworks and usually fungus I just cannot help it and just yeet that shit. Don't remember last time I saw a red printer. Same as I've never really seen any useful red cauldron before final boss. Happiest mask, desk plant and meat hook hidden op for Mythrix, right?
Hook is actually nice. It can proc all your items dependant of your attacks and it deals 100% total damage which also feeds into a proc chain from the hook
@@themuffinprincesa21 I totally appreciate the item in general. Speaking in the context of the cauldron before Mythrix thought, there won't be too much use of that, unless you actually kick in from a longer run and he spawns lots of chimeras. Otherwise yeah, I like that one, too.
@@thestarvingonetso5627 fair enough. There are definitely better reds to have, I just personally think there are worse red items then the daggers that could spawn vs the possibility of the fewer better ones like brilliant, hook etc.
So I had a run where I scrapped a few items that I didn't want. Then I went over to a 3D printer and I hit it like 5 or 6 times and it didn't use ANY of my scrap, it just kept taking my items that I did want and it just screwed me over in the run. Is this just a glitch or am I missing something?
I will always scrap Frost Relic on any survivor except Merc since I find it's visual effect to be too distracting and not helpful at all with a ranged kit.
I think the scrapper is OP due to items capping/sucking... as far as sucking... imo. DO NOT TRADE YOUR KEYS Keys = Bonus Item a stage, which far outpaces the trade of the key. ...and gives you more items to print and more keys = red/green items. Backup Mag - Depending on Survivor Fresh Meat - Literally only 2 HP/s with +3 seconds per stack on kill... so little HP Armor Plate - 5 damage reduction requires huge stacks to matter Chronobauble - It does nothing in most situations Death Mark - It is 50% bonus damage +7 seconds a stack... Leeching Seed - 1 HP a hit when at Lv1 you have 100-300 Health. Red Whip - 30% movement speed out of combat... you'll get whiplash. Polyp - Till it is improved to get all your non-healing items Wake of Vultures - I'd rather use the equipment version of the aspects. Mired Urn - Unless you're melee/getting Focus Crystals Queens - They literally get in your way and won't go to Mythrix. Everything else is fairly powerful, Crowbar can combine with items for some crazy effects and 1-shot enemies you'd fall short on. Focus Crystals can let you obliterate the enemies as they spawn in 15 meters of you often times. Even Gas can infinitely proc on stage 5, same with Whisp.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention max stacks. If you've got 20 crit glasses, there's no harm in salvaging 10 of them because you're already over 100% crit chance.
On engineer, mired urn sucks. Since your turrets are alway firing, if you’re anywhere near them they take health from you as well, and they do it really fast, leaving you open to be demolished. For that reason only is who i would scrap a mired urn.
i scrap for pogylp printers
good idea
Scraping for desk plants 4life
Poglyp Video when
Poglyps for life
@@imthaddeus2919 YOU FOOL
legit last time i saw a red printer was earlier this week and it was of desk plant, and a scrapper was right next to it to. i couldnt stop laughing.
you were destined to grab it
The game really said “do it”
Happiest mask printers be like:
I've seen a red printer maybe 5 times? Feels like all of em were desk plant.
I love the idea of the scrapper, I think it's genius. Sacrificing some power now for some potential greater power later. Really "risk" (forgive the pun) vs reward gameplay, which I personally love.
I also really like how its time consuming to use scrappers, so if you find a really good printer and a scrapper on the level, youre going to have to take time to run back and forth to get everything done, making the game more difficult in the process. Nothing is ever free in ror..
Other than the new, uh, dimension, ROR2 seems to offer a lot of "you get more control over this... For a price" things than ROR1. The scrapper fits into this pretty well.
green scrap is reserved exclusively for everyone's favorite polyp
poglyp*
POGGGGGGGGGGG
@@nilly0052 polyps are green so he can’t exchange them for bungus
@@grovetender4713 That’s not it, he’s using the bungus with the poglyps
I actually saw a sentient meat hook printer yesterday so I’m just going to take his advice as always scrap red items, thanks for the tip
My last red printer was an Aegis printer that spit the item off the level...
this should unlock the "true respite" achievement
Ever had a friend complain about how unethical your red item luck was? This was the printer to restore balance in all things.
@@KekkusMaximus Yeah man, I wanna resign myself to oblivion after that shit
I didn’t even know you could have printers with red items.. that’s how unlucky I’ve been.
Cool, a scrapper. Time to get rid of my fungus and hope for a good printer later on. ~Me, before running into multiple fungus printers
*Laughs in engineer
*[cries in mobile turret engineer]*
@@GrimmXilixion imagine using mobile turrets
i used the bungus to create the bungus
Out of context this comment is very funny
Scrapping reds:
When the Captain's Defensive Microbots respawned every stage, you would always scrap them after the teleporter event in the (admittedly slim) chance of finding a milspec printer. Its since been patched out, but *technically* it was a red that was always-scrappable.
Fireworks are the best item in the game, change my mind. Find a fire works printer, trade everything, free money everytime you open anything. Run through levels and get mad chests, kill boss with fireworks from teleporter. Rinse and repeat
No need to change your mind, you are clearly a genius for seeing it that way!
Yep, that's what I do on higher levels. At the very least it points to where enemies are if you can't see any chests!
Not to mention that there's nothing better then watching a chest spit out fireworks for several minutes straight
@@Roman-tj4bl obviously so. IQ so big
honestly i always scrap frost relic on the off chance of finding a red printer simply for the fact that i can't see anything when it's active
sight is but an illusion, let your M1 guide you
I just commented about the same thing, wondering if I was the only one who does this😂. I agree totally, it fucks up visual clarity by a lot and that’s a big deal in such a chaotic game where you need to be able to notice enemies to do well. I’ve actually wondered if hopoo games knew this item to be a visual issue or not, or if they just keep it like that for the meme lmao. An incredibly distracting item in any case
The background gameplay should've been the run where you died to the frog
dont forget the beetle
Shouldn't've pet the peepo
I know everything I need to about the scrappers but I like your content so I'm gonna watch anyway :-)
Finished my run on Monsoon. I got lucky during Mithrix since he almost killed me twice if it wasn’t for 1 shot protection and x10 tougher times.
Your videos have got me through the game, thank you. Started off as bad as any noob, destroyed 5 times in probably 15 minutes of play lol. Now after about 20 hours, got all the characters, working on the items, skills, commands, unlocks. Couldn't have made it this far without your knowledge, thanks for sharing brother!
Crit printer?
Scrap everything.
Poglyp printer?
Scrap everything.
found a dio scrapper in back to back runs. on one of those there were 2 gold portals. crazy rng round
Mr. Streamer, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Always scrap all your greens except chronobobble because on the chance that you find a chronobobble printer that can make your run.
Scrap your reds too just incase they make chronobobble red in the future because of how strong it is
@@lolmanyeah1 in the meantime just print happiest masks and/or wake of vultures
I've been wanting this video so much!! Thank you
Woolie: NEVER scrap your reds
Me: what about the logbook for red scrap!
Literally the reason I did this.
Late game happiest mask can get you killed, seeing as void reaver explosions kill friendlies. I always scrap my masks, seeing as I don't want to get instakilled by a "friendly".
@@jimijenkins2548 I did that... with a dunestrider ghost...
I just wanna say the main level music for Sky Meadow ("The Rain Formerly Known As Purple") is a hell of a bop and a half.
I think there’s a reasonable case to make for scrapping certain red items if, and only if, they actively conflict with your play style. For example, if you find the altered jumping mechanics with head stomp annoying, and see a scrapper nearby when one drops, it’s better just to grab and scrap than not take the red at all; same for desk plant on sacrifice runs to avoid cluttering, happiest mask if you have a clover to avoid an onset of annoying ghosts etc.. Also of note that if you’re playing with chaos grabbing and scrapping happiest mask or brilliant Behemoth is definitely worth it because taking those two items could be shooting yourself in the foot anyway.
Of course, a recycler is better in these situations, but if you don’t have one or have already rolled once, it’s worth bearing in mind.
Head stomp will always be useful on eclipse 3 and above
@@jakobknecht7654 of course, but outside of that and if you’re playing with artefact of fragility or whatever it is, it can become annoying.
Whenever I have a bunch of crap items and i finally see a scrapper on stage 4, the satisfaction of removing them all is indescribable
I think it's important to mention that the scrapper is technically considered an item pickup, and so will not activate fireworks or squid polyps (you can see this by the fact that pinning a scrapper gives the same icon as an item or a lunar coin).
My personal tip on Mithrix runs:
Find a scrapper on the purple stage before the final stage and scrap everything that will give him the advantage on the final phase, e. g. Tesla Coils, Crowbars, etc. Also, scrap some on-kill green and white items as they are practically useless on the final boss. Who knows you might run into a really good item cauldron on the final stage.
One last thing, if you can find a printer on the last stage for good items that you already have, scrap all the items and print them again. This method will rearrange them as the latest item, which you will get first during Mithrix' final phase.
I always scrap frost relic, I just don't like how it looks on my screen and it makes movement weird to me
agreed, not sure why, but i feel slower when the frost procs.
It's the way it screws with your fov. It makes me nauseous and I just wish there was a way to turn off the zoom fluctuation.
If I’m doing mithrix/eclipse runs, I typically print items at stage 4/5 until I have a multiple of 3 white items so I can use those at the cauldrons on soup island. Likewise, multiples of 5 for greens, but only if I have terrible green items as there is a chance a red soup cauldron will not spawn. I never go off these multiple because having more or less scrap than these means those are wasted items.
Thanks for all the ror2 support and content woolie
This guy have some nice voice and entertaining talking. He should start streaming on Twitch or something
Nah he probably wouldn't do well.
You looked
I’m loving the content and guides, these have really helped improve my runs! I have been having a little trouble with the Alloy Worship Unit lately, and I was wondering if you’d have any tips on when/how to fight it effectively. Like I said, loving the content!
The one time I've seen a red printer was before scrapers were added, I had no reds, and it was a clover printer.
i once was blessed with a Sentient Meat Hook printer, and had 4 reds in my inventory. after that stage i had 4 meat hooks and proceeded with a god run :D (with commando btw)
Exception for scrapping reds: If you want to use the order shrine and make it a 50/50 chance between more red scrap or whatever you were planning to dupe.
I will often scrap Happiest Mask and the Headhunter when I'm not in the first loop because I find their benefit to be not worth the amount of visual clutter they introduce. Both of these also force you to dodge friendly attacks at times, like your own malachite puddles and vagrant explosions, which puts even more risk on you in hectic situations.
Artificer needs no attack speed, so on days where the teleporter gives me Berserker’s and Warhorns, I die on the inside.
It also should bear mentioning that the Bazaar cauldrons also prioritizes Scrap and if you need those early greens or can sacrifice a bunch of greens, then you get basically a free red
For yellows there's rarely any reason to scrap yellows, even if they're on the same stage. Chances are you're not going to have many different yellow items, if more than one even, and chances are that if you find a yellow printer you like, you're going to be happy to convert all your yellows to a nice stack of that item.
I was once having a rather lousy run as Captain, when I found both a Little Helper printer and an Energy Drink printer on the same stage. I had three Genesis Loops (due to some mountain shrines) and a Queen's Gland, and already had several Goat Hoofs and a pair of Red Whips. My build otherwise was pretty awful and I was barely surviving. I decided it was the perfect time to embrace the meme given to me, and just turn into a fireball spewing blur. From that point on it transitioned into a lulzy god run.
little disciple is a pretty good item i would never scrap it is free damage when you are running away/searching for loot and is AOE
As a Huntress Main, I can confirm
right but compared to a perforator, urn and ESPECIALLY shatterspleen (so long as you don't have one already), I'd definitely trade it in
Little Disciple is honestly my favorite boss item in the entire game. Summoning an ATG missile 1-2x every single second just for moving around, not even actively firing like you have to do for ATGs and only spawning one every few seconds? That's already broken even with no movespeed increases at all, and you can even make a win condition out of if you can get more movement speed. Compared to a Perforator which is basically just a "Will-o-the-Wisp +" with how inaccurate and impractical the fireballs are for single-target or even multi-target combat, a Mired Urn which is dependent on melee range and can be potentially dangerous in multiplayer, or even a Shatterspleen if you don't have much crit, Little Disciple is always useful and it is always powerful.
I think Woolie's really sleeping on Little Disciple. It's as good as a red and if it was a green, it'd be the best green in the game.
i just generally don’t scrap yellows as i almost never get more than 1 in a run
@@TarlukLegion yeah, but compared to shatterspleen.... with shatterspleen you literally get the most broken effect in the entire game (bleed) with a 100% chance proc if you have capped your crit. it gives you an extra 5% chance on the first time you pick it up. AND it explodes.
So useful especially the items to scrap list.
I genuinely have never in my probably 200+ hours of this game seen a red printer and at this point im not even sure if they exist
Love you woolie thanks for the tips :)
It's a gamechanger and I pretty much already used it like you described. Feels good to be on this side of the coin for once man.
Anyone else start dying when he said vagrant wieners?
ok you say avoid scarpping greens but frankly when I have a poglyp I always scrap it. even considering the unlikelihood of finding a good green printer, it and scrap are nearly equal in value.
Engineer here. There is ONE exception to this rule if you use stationary turrets. ALWAYS scrap the urn if you get it in a level that has a scrapper otherwise DON'T TAKE IT.
The urn works also between minions so the turrets will leech eachother without really healing eachother (the amount that you remove from others is greater than the healing you get from them) so it literally kills your gameplay at lower level and it is obsolete at higher levels when you have 10+ fungi carrying your bonkers regen
Last time I saw a red printer it was of ceremonial dagger the easiest god run of my life ngl.
A piece of additional advice that not many people seem to think of: if you're late in a god run, say 1.5-2 hours, you probably have tons of goat hooves/energy drinks and are struggling to move around the map, you can scrap 10 energy drinks or goat hooves and your life will instantly become much better (I personally tend to stay at around 30 total speed items and scrap if I were to go above 50)
Also you missed to mention items that should definitely be scrapped before fighting mithrix, like the Genesis Loop as they may fuck you over in the last phase
Finally a solution to having FIVE rusted keys
tbh when I see a medkit printer I usually stack a few of them, they're pretty good at sustaining Mithrix's damage when you get all your life back after every hit, provided you have the mobility to not take two hits in a row. I'm not sure it resets the OS protection though, last time I got to check it I ended up not needing it at all.
Well, that's for Eclipse runs anyway, they're pretty worthless for the chaos stages 10+ can become.
Imagine if you could scrap blues that would be OP
Thanks for the scrapper guide, also for anyone who hasn't turned anything into scrap yet, such as console players, scrap at least one item of every rarity so you unlock the logbook entry for the scrap.
Hey Woolie, I'm having the hardest time with understanding Captain, I just can't play him effectively and I just don't know what it is.
Get some tri tip daggers and movement items any chance you can. His M1 is probably the best in the game, stay rather close to the enemies in the beginning and you will do enough damage. Once you have enough attack speed your M1 charges faster, so you can take a more save route by staying further away. Pack the hacking beacons and dont be greedy with them, on the first 2 stages I usually just open the first chest I see (unless I have a shrine or a big chest in sight ofc) after that I tend to be a bit more greedy with it, but not too much either. If you have to wait for enemies to spawn so you can make some cash, just use the beacon instead and save time. Hope for the red map on stage 4 and get that legendary item for free. After stage 5 the beacons are more or less useless, but they are super strong early in the game. I find captain to be the easiest surviver to get a god run with if you follow what I just layed down for you. I feel you also have to aim a bit more precise than with most other characters, but I am a terrible aimer and I can still make it work. Tri Tip dagger is so awesome, because 1 shot of the M1 is actually 8 bullets, each with a proccoeff of 1, so you are basically guaranteed to bleed your opponent with just 1 dagger. This also applies to other on hit effect, thats why he is probably the best survivor in the game at this moment.
1:17 eyyy LSD effect, love that
Me and some homies were doing an all commando run, and I somehow managed to get a rejuvenation rack, n’kuahana’s opinion, and mired urn. It was early on too, so I was basically immortal lmao
Rejuv rack is what let me get the ballista special for the huntress. It’s so good. I combined it with aegis.
@@zavhyatta9795 getting rejuve rack and aegis in the same run as Rex is insane, I’ve done it before without artifacts, just really lucky drops lmao
@@horse_dog I did it without artifacts. I just found a printer and scrapper which let me scrap the one blizzard Item for an aegis.
@@zavhyatta9795 which survivor do you play the most?
@@horse_dog huntress
Great video! I'd definitely scrap some reds if I found a H3ad-5t v2. #stompeegang #stompeeunion PPogo
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Great information, although I would absolutely recommend scrapping useless reds and yellows if you find a scrapper on stage 5 (ie things that wouldn't benefit you into a Mithrix fight) just without picking up the scrap. Do NOT pick up the scrap!
Disc, brainstalks, vultures, desk plant, catalyst, relic, dagger, mask etc. alongside the yellows mentioned in the video are essentially useless items by that point, when only single target damage is valuable, or basically a negligible benefit during Mithrix's phase 2. This goes for whites and greens too, which you should scrap only in multiples of 3 and 5 respectively, for use at the soup island (picking up the items you trade for there is optional).
To me this is crucial in my gameplan doing Eclipse 8 runs. I feel it makes all the difference to never go into the Mithrix fight with more items than you need, and no scrap. Of course reliant on the chance you get a stage 5 scrapper. I choose not to pick up bad items on that stage unless I can find one
I keep daggers as when the 2nd phase hits the daggers not only clear the room but stay up long enough to down him when he spawns in
the red scrap segment makes me what if they added a reverse cauldron that takes 1 item of green/red quality and gives 3 items of white/green quality
The only time I scrap reds is if I'm playing a melee character and I have a tesla coil, and I'm about to fight mithrix. After the stage 5 teleporter, I scrap it so I do not have to fight it in phase 4.
I thought mithrix can't use Tesla coil, razor wire or tougher times?
@@2911oscar razorwire, tougher times, crowbars and mired urn are the only items he can't use, he can use everything else though which includes tesla coil
@@2911oscar I thought the same before I died to my own tesla coil. I felt very betrayed.
For those looking for mithrex advice get a royal capacitor and hide on the top area zapping him to death on final phase. Makes it free
What should I do if my goal is to beat Monsoon with a given character as fast as possible, either from Mithrix or Obliteration? When should I fight the boss and when should I loop? If I'm not having a good run or lacking in something like defense, healing, mobility, or attack by the time it's decision time should I fight boss or loop and hope for what I'm missing?
I dunno if you're still struggling with this or not (probably not, it's been a year), but I wandered across some advice that I have used successfully to just get the masteries. Do a monsoon run with the artifacts command and sacrifice, stack up some mushrooms and razorwire (3-5 of each will do), and get to the blue portal asap after you got those things. Go to the void fields, push through to the 7th stage (max enemies with the least amount of items) and just chill in the void while you farm up loot to get the optimal build you want. Then proceed to go through and do either Mithrix or Obliterate, depending on the mood.
@@leadpaintchips9461 I have barely touched the game for a year so yeah I kind of stopped focusing on roguelikes for awhile and started playing more stuff I could make measurable progress in, plus I was able to loop in the normal difficulty one or two times while playing with someone else and even once on my own but there's no endgame, no goal, once you defeat the boss it's just lasting as long as you can and it makes the end result feel rather shallow, like there's not much point in playing any further once I unlock all the characters aside from getting their alternate abilities, but I haven't really felt like playing the game for awhile.
@@BlueAmpharos Understandable, have more than a few friends who are like that.
A cool thing you can do is to scrap any item you will not need/ not proc during the boss fight so you get back your earlier items faster
To anyone reading this now, there is actually more of a use for red scrap since there can be common soup cauldrons on commencement, which take a red and give three commons. Still generally not worth it unless you have a red that is actively detrimental to your run or one that is completely useless.
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Finally able to play the new update on ps4. Been waiting so long
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4:30 . I just had a Clover printer :D
I always scrap happiest mask too many frames drops in my 5 hour runs
My first run after these were added I saw a *TON* and I was kinda worried it'd be too easy to rely on them.
Then they stopped showing up.
anyone know what the last red item is and how to unlock it? It's the circle one, I think it's new cause I play this game every day, never come across it
you can check how to unlock it in the challenges
It is the captain's defensive microbot, it can only be obtained by killing a doppelganger
That would be Captain's defensive microbot.
To get the entry, you need to kill his Umbra (using Artifact of Vengeance) while having no other items. Easiest way to do it is to complete stage 1 on drizzle without items, and just wait for it to spawn at the 10 minute mark.
Don't ask me why it works like this, it just does.
The Captain's Passive, defensive microbots. You can't unlock it because it can only be obtained by the Captain, OR if you use the artifact of vengeance, wait 10 minutes on stage 1 with no items, and kill the doppelganger. If you do the former, then you can pick it up because it will be a guaranteed drop if you have no other items. The Captain can scrap it and lose it (or gain more stacks of it) at shrines of order.
@@thatonedude572 @TehBroozer @ Mark Crafty ok that makes a lot of sense, since it was a passive i didn't even think of it lol. thanks guys
I remember being able to scrap the captain's passive red for a red scrap, and getting it back at the next stage for free, while still keeping the red scrap. Have they patched that? Cause i used to do that after every boss just because i could. (but there's the point that you won't find a red printer unless you plan for a 20 stage run or so, yadayada, just saying)
On my long runs i scrap all my bad whites, turn them in to bulk greens at the blue shop. Then scrap those to turn them in to reds once i get a good one. Easy guaranteed 20+ stage runs every time
I would have mentioned that you might often want to scrap on stage 5 before heading to Mithrix if you have items you definitely don't need for the fight that would be a pain for him to have.
In fact, it can even be better to scrap them and not pick up the scrap so you get your useful items back from him sooner in the 4th phase.
Take the scrap, but in stacks it can be traded for.
You can trade the scrap but not pick up the dropped item to remove the scrap from your inventory.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Oh, I like that idea even better. Didn't think of it. Are you guaranteed at least one red and green cauldron on Commencement every time?
I had a head set once and the jump height was actually awful for me since I couldn't spam the sprint jumps for easy reposition with Wax Quail, which lost me the run in the end, so tbh I wish I had scrapped it...
I'm going to have to disagree on the green scrap. As long as you know how to make it to the Bazaar, you can use it for a trade-in on a red. Turning your chrono, bandolier, whips, or whatever weak greens you get into scrap to guarantee you don't lose your good ones to the red cauldron is invaluable.
That's pretty much what I said, no?
Can red scrap be converted into white / green items with soup?
Edit: I know now
It can be converted into white items at the white item soup on Commencement but otherwise no
@@a_cats I know this now and forgot this comment existed, but thanks for your help, lol
After 3:20 I don't even have to keep watching...
Hey Woolie, is double rebar puncher better for eclipse/ monsoon runs? I thought your most recent teir list recommended rebar and nailgun combo but i see u double rebar pretty hard in this background footage. Jw! thnks for all the great ROR2 info
I mean, this dude is incredible at describing come on. Can't even describe what my essays mean to my teachers
10 Red Whips, 1-10 Goat Hoofs, 1 Energy Drink and 1+ Little Disciple is good fun.
I think Little Disciple procs all on hits, so after crit, bleed, ATG Missiles, Ukulele's etc. is very VERY good fun... Even though you're literally ONLY sprinting.
This is me saying that i've really grown fond of Red Whips + Disciple, and even though Little Disciple may be a bit (a LOT) of OP cheese under these circumstances, i hope they won't nerf it too hard.
I wouldn't think Hopoo would do that though, otherwise he would have nerfed Bleed beforehand, which he already stated that he won't.
Btw, Acrid looks amazing with 1000+ Movement speed while sprinting :3
I dont know if I got fortunate, but I only see red/yellow printers when i have red/yellow scrap. do you have a higher chance of getting a printer if you have that colour scrap?
You forgot a small detail about scrapping red items, if you for example, take a wake of vultures as Rex, it could really mess up your run, since turning half of your hp to shields seriously cripples rex's ability to survive and to attack, that is the only red item that I would scrap, on that specific survivor.
Wake giving you half shields as any survivor cripples your healing. I'd say scrap it on anyone unless you're going transcendence.
Scraper on eclipse 8 with a atg printer is just a good time
Tbh I scrap happiest masks because they make my game lag too much. Also lepton daisy because every lepton daisy is one more middle finger from the game up my backside.
Yes, I am both poor and bitter.
I do the same thing with the mask, not just for the lag (although very true lol) but also because you can get an allied void reaver and it can still one shot you even though it’s your ally!! I hope people see these comments. Be careful if you have a happiest mask in a run everybody
I scrap Head Set/Head Stomper whatever you wanna call it because it's such a trash Legendary.
@@Lord_Talha another good point! Then if you got like a ceremonial dagger printer (pretty sure red printers are more common as the game scales up to higher difficulty) then it’s such a powerful trade for a long run. It’s sad when you only get desk plant printers to spawn tho 😂
@@leel2792 i mean, honestly I just scrap it out of spite bc I hate it so much lmao
@@Lord_Talha It does fully stop fall damage... which is important. While fall damage can't kill you that little bit of damage can often put you under 90% health.
Man I hope that red scrap works at lunar cauldrons one day
I would never scrap a little disciple... withe a few (or a ton) of movement items? it just destroys everything while giving me the ability to run away...
I do scrap some reds just because they either get in the way of sight or can harm you i.e. happiest mask. Usually do greens when they aren't providing massive benefits, and commons that don't add assist in any way (staring at fungus as any character other than engi)
\-_-/ all I can say
Does the scrapper still scrap white items for some reason im only allowed to scrap green items any advice?
Scrapper is sick good and I love it all the time I see it.
The tip for not scrapping in the very beginning sounds pretty damn valid, but with keys, warbanners, fireworks and usually fungus I just cannot help it and just yeet that shit.
Don't remember last time I saw a red printer. Same as I've never really seen any useful red cauldron before final boss. Happiest mask, desk plant and meat hook hidden op for Mythrix, right?
Hook is actually nice. It can proc all your items dependant of your attacks and it deals 100% total damage which also feeds into a proc chain from the hook
@@themuffinprincesa21 I totally appreciate the item in general. Speaking in the context of the cauldron before Mythrix thought, there won't be too much use of that, unless you actually kick in from a longer run and he spawns lots of chimeras. Otherwise yeah, I like that one, too.
@@thestarvingonetso5627 fair enough. There are definitely better reds to have, I just personally think there are worse red items then the daggers that could spawn vs the possibility of the fewer better ones like brilliant, hook etc.
If i have a lot of speed items, I do scrap headstopmers. Becomes a big nuisance pretty quickly.
Actually, he's wrong. Scrap the Head 5T v2 if you already have a lot of mobility
espacially when you have wax quails, the heads hight jump keeps you off the grond longer thus having less wax jump opportunity.
what on command if you scrap an item would yoou get scrap or be able to change the item id think the 2ed option
most likey the first
my favourite feature in the game, if I had to blind print I feel like getting good builds would be way less fun
So I had a run where I scrapped a few items that I didn't want. Then I went over to a 3D printer and I hit it like 5 or 6 times and it didn't use ANY of my scrap, it just kept taking my items that I did want and it just screwed me over in the run. Is this just a glitch or am I missing something?
The scrap has to be same tier as printer. If you have common scrap it won't work when you try to print green items.
@@BookishBanker I'm pretty sure I had white scrap and I was using a white printer, but I might've not had the right scrap
Wait, so red scraps don't work at the bazaar ? I died before i could get to the bazaar the other day, i had 4 or 5 red scraps... feels bad man
lets say you have a build based on fuel cells and gestures, would then warhorn be a much better item not worthy of scrapping?
for sure - you want to save your greens 99.9% of the time anyway & only scrap when you find a good printer
I will always scrap Frost Relic on any survivor except Merc since I find it's visual effect to be too distracting and not helpful at all with a ranged kit.
You could have talk about the exchange you can do in Lunar shop with the scrap
those are the cauldrons I mentioned
@@Woolie Oh my bad, I thought cauldron was what you exchange with at mithrix stage.
@@meicox3924 no prob lol - they're the same thing
Yay, Wollie upload
I think the scrapper is OP due to items capping/sucking... as far as sucking... imo.
DO NOT TRADE YOUR KEYS
Keys = Bonus Item a stage, which far outpaces the trade of the key.
...and gives you more items to print and more keys = red/green items.
Backup Mag - Depending on Survivor
Fresh Meat - Literally only 2 HP/s with +3 seconds per stack on kill... so little HP
Armor Plate - 5 damage reduction requires huge stacks to matter
Chronobauble - It does nothing in most situations
Death Mark - It is 50% bonus damage +7 seconds a stack...
Leeching Seed - 1 HP a hit when at Lv1 you have 100-300 Health.
Red Whip - 30% movement speed out of combat... you'll get whiplash.
Polyp - Till it is improved to get all your non-healing items
Wake of Vultures - I'd rather use the equipment version of the aspects.
Mired Urn - Unless you're melee/getting Focus Crystals
Queens - They literally get in your way and won't go to Mythrix.
Everything else is fairly powerful, Crowbar can combine with items for some crazy effects and 1-shot enemies you'd fall short on. Focus Crystals can let you obliterate the enemies as they spawn in 15 meters of you often times. Even Gas can infinitely proc on stage 5, same with Whisp.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention max stacks. If you've got 20 crit glasses, there's no harm in salvaging 10 of them because you're already over 100% crit chance.
I found a Tesla Coil 3D Printer on stage 3 one time, but had no way to access it :(
On engineer, mired urn sucks. Since your turrets are alway firing, if you’re anywhere near them they take health from you as well, and they do it really fast, leaving you open to be demolished. For that reason only is who i would scrap a mired urn.