Understanding Damage Calculations, Proc Chains & more (Risk of Rain 2)
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2020
- A guide on proc coefficient, proc rate, damage and more.
Damage calculator (doc): drive.google.com/file/d/15fZ7...
Damage calcs (wiki): riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Damage
Procs (wiki): riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Pro...
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but achkshully mr streamer the chronobauble is best damage item in the game ok thank you
And dont forget the Red whip for proc chance.
as well as monster tooth to be basically invincible
All of this possible once you have three corpseblooms.
Picking up a shield generator increases your corpsebloom proc chance by 20%
Fools, Spetral Circet is the best damage
You know a game has you hooked when you break out excel...
xenoblade players rise up
Factorio in a nutshell
Its funny how much better 15€ games can be than 60€ triple a games lol
wait until you play civ3 or factorio..
@@andersiversen230 it’s 25 dallors tho
I miss the Good ol days when all you had to do was print sticky bombs.
indeed the good ol days
F
Simpler times. Now I have to think? Eugh
@@frankguy6843 perfect my plan has succeeded
@@frankguy6843 think? Just stack wax quail and energy drink on Loader and one shot everything with enough focus crystals.
It's foolproof.
But before we talk about proc chains, we have to talk about PARALLEL UNIVERSES
Dan Lorett what is this Noita?
Jaden D. Nah Mario 64
So we build up Fuel Cells for 12 hours...
TRUUUUE
@@jdirksen To answer that we need to talk about parallel universes
"Can we talk about proc chains now?"
Not yet spongebob, first we have to talk about POOP
poop?
that's right! People Order Our Patties
oooooh, POOP!
@@Woolie ... He said it...
The amount of effort you put into your videos is insane man, I have been a fan of the channel since ROR2 Launch and I have loved all of your videos. Thank you for the great content and hope you have a good day!
appreciate the support man :)
You had me at "spreadsheets".
Here's a video idea: Enemy Friendly Fire. I'd love to see an in depth video about it, and how to abuse it most. The most obvious example would be the void crabs explosion that kills everything.
Now its in the game along with enemies dropping items and such
I actually like a volvanic egg as a starter on some classes, its some easy extra movement to get across the map and has slight combat potential. Of course I'll replace it when it gets to stage 4 but it aint so bad to start with.
yeah. onetime i went on a 2 hour godrun and got NO FEATHERS so i had to use e g g
Just don't die and you will infinitely scale with damage 5head
Really
I don't watch streams, but I'm currently laying here sick watching your video and I'm honestly so impressed. Besides having a good personality, and of course play skill, you really go above and beyond most other streamers and UA-cam personalities to make content. And this is comparing you to other games other than RoR2. As long as you make content of any type, I'll definitely be a fan.
appreciate the kind words man :) hope you have a speedy recovery as well!
Recently started my monsoon runs for the commando skin, I really must thank you for all your advice from previous vids in helping make my runs the most efficient they can be with what RNjesus can provide to me.
Kinda sucks rushing for Preon only to get SA, but I try to farm what I can large chests tend to be common on SA.
Wait, this isn't about Blockchain?
Woolie is my go to for risk of rain content just started playing two weeks ago and it's fun as hell.
Ty for the wonderful content mr streamer
This is the kind of hyper-specific information I subbed for. More pls Mr. Streamer
Wow, very high quality video. Subbed for the first time in years
Awesome vid! And super hyped about the spreadsheet 😍
Love you and your vids woolie!
I hope your day is going well
Keep being awesome
Ah I love this. For some reason, I can't enjoy a game without knowing the exact details of everything, so I end up spending hours on the wiki. This definitely saved me some time, thanks!
I am new to RoR2 and I have been binge watching your videos. Love the content!
Dude.. you're THE god of Risk of rain. Your videos are extremely helpful and intuitive. Thank you WOOLIE
Very informative and fun as always.Thumbs up!
Great video! Appreciate all the hard work!
Thank you Woolie for the content !
For real, this is next level content. That calculator...woah.
Rly thanks for your work! Best mr streamer makes videos about best game
Keep up the good work
Holy shit, liked subscribed, everything else. You put a lot of work into this to make a really easy to understand video out of something that is womewhat complicated. This old man is impressed. Time to play more ROR2...
Been playing RoR2 since the console release and your videos have made me an all-around better player. I greatly enjoy your videos and the effort you put forth for this stellar content. Thanks and keep up the awesome work. Look forward to the artifacts update for us poor console players, looks like a blast!
Oh hey, this vid is relevant to a question I had about your multiplayer meta video! It was basically who should take ATGs, an Artificer or an engineer.
Reminds of my crowning jewel spreadsheet I made at work which automated what used to be 3 full days of manual data input and calculations into a 1 hour job. Excel/Google sheets is addictive in that way, once you start learning formulas you get hooked and start trying to automate everything
This hurts my head
Maybe when my break is over I'll come back to this video
I love just how wide i feel after watching this video, thank you again Mr (Roland) Streamer
good work, keep it up
shoutouts to the sticky bomb salute
Thank you for taking the time to make a calculator for us gamers
Can't wait for artifacts 2.0
Woolie should be a professional playtester.
Woolie is the CEO of big brain
Woolie! You've probably heard this 100 times now, but have you seen Synthetik? Similar premise in separate runs, items and weapons you gotta find, ect...
Give it a look? You might like it!
Hey hey people
Would you ever be interested in incorporating other stats that have multiple different items claiming multiplication or addition to help get a feel for how they work and/or work it into a video? Stuff like health, regen, and armour that are maybe less complex than damage tends to get but still weird.
Something important to note that some people will probably overlook. High damage should never be your only goal. If you're constantly just waiting for your preon cooldown then you're shit out of luck. You should always mix consistent damage with high damage. Burst will only ever be king as long as you're 1) alive to do it 2) don't fuck it up and 3) not immediately put in another bad situation while you're on cooldown. Risk of Rain 2 is more of a speed game so being able to consistently and quickly kill your small mob groups is important in the early stages. Gotta get them phat chests after all. Bursting down a boss just means you're stuck jerking off for the next minute or so at the teleporter.
first -380 lol
I honestly find your videos very respectable especially this one because you give the option to dislike. That my friend is how you know your a wholesome/non-egofilledUA-camr
Didn’t expect to hear path of exile in here
Helloooooo Woolie, could you talk about the shrines of order? Your thoughts about them if theyre worth it etc. I couldnt find a vid that really is about that subject love ur vids btw ;)
theyre an excellent way to fuck your run!
using a shrine of order is basically paying to end your run, the only case they are worth it is early game and you have some trash items and a few good ones and you decide it could be worth it to try and stack all those as one good one.
Shrine of order is a meme.
Your white items get turned into portable shield generators if you aren't transcendence or fungus if you aren't engineer.
Your green items get turned into red whip/chronobauble.
Your red items get turned into clovers to taunt you for your lack of on-hits
Your yellow items get turned into pearls
Don't even get me started on lunars.
It finds the specific way in which it will make you regret picking it up.
Best answer: No, they're never worth it.
The only time I ever got a good result from Shrine of Order was all Goat Hooves as Loader.
Tbh, I kind of want to see a good damage item like thallium come back but in a different way.
For those of you who dont know, thallium is the best poison item in ror1, it does MUCH more damage over a longer period than all of the other ones combined. But what I want to see it not just slow, but apply a self-stacking poison buff that the longer it's in effect, the more damage it does. Additionally, focus crystal effects poisoned enemies near you, so there is synergy to be had there.
Not sure if anyone else is as hopeful for something like that as I am, but I happen to like burn/bleed despite how much it sucks.
I was there!
i wonder how much dps the calculator would output if you entered the stats of the guy who spent 24 hours on 1 stage
Challenge suggestion: 10(more?) items challenge, you can only pick up 10 items + equipment
Nkuhanas doesn't do damage based on the base damage stat. It does damage based on your health, as each one fires when you heal 10% of your health and does damage equal to 250% of that.
This is why you stack steaks, infusions, and gnurls like mad if you wanna use it. (And shun the glass. It's not worth it).
I’ve only played the first Risk Of Rain and I’m good and all but I never thought Risk Of Rain 2 could be so damn complicated lol
I'll never not print hundreds of ATG missles.
unless they are changed to base dmg (they won't), then I'm with you brother
@@Woolie I will fire a Preon at Hopoo HQ if they change it to base dmg.
I would not do that if you are planning on fighting the last boss. 4th stage means one little hit from a shard = Heat-seeking 1000000% damage coming your way.
Dread it. Run from it. The ATG arrives all the same.
Idk man attack speed acts as a multiplier in most damage calcs. To determine dps, you calculate hit damage, then multiply by the hits per second (attack speed). So the only times scaling initial hit would be better is if you've hit the point of diminishing returns on attack speed increases (if they're all additive increases) and not on damage increases, OR if there is some damage over time affect applied that scales off of initial hit and doesn't stack. In this game, I believe all attack speed increases are additive and there are way more ways you can scale hit damage (every step in the proc chain, % damage, etc) so as a rule of thumb, I guess you can scale initial hit with a larger variety of items but I don't think ignoring attack speed or trading all your syringes in at printers is a good idea.
lol malachite wisp horde at stage 5, im so sorry
1:07 there is an exception - acrids pioson
S tier video better than chronobauble
chronobauble wasn't in the calculator 0/10 worse than clover
My man just passed up on a bustling fungus printer, there are starving engineers in Africa who would kill for that.
it really be do like dat sometimes do
When wollie said "Commando mains rise up"
I felt that......
*Fist in the air*
damn people actually stood up?
Commando Mains RISE UP
For those of you like me who hadn't heard the term before:
"Proc" stands for "Programmed Random Occurrence."
pretty sure it's short for spec proc, or special process. coding term.
Commando Mains RISE UP!!
Can you tell me when you are gonna go online on twitch because I'm living in Germany and miss every stream
I did a run with artificer earlier, though I had artifact of command on. You know how insane you can make a build when you can choose the item?
So lemme get this straight, sorry it’s a tough subject, so if commando shoots and has a ukulele that ukulele procs it’s regular percentage of the time. Then assuming that ukulele hits, it has a chance per enemy hit to then Proc an atg however it’ll only be .2*10% chance?
How would the damage work for Wisp > Gasoline / Sticky Bomb? Ive seen if a few times but never sure how the numbers work.
Proc chains are neat and all but just dealing high damage innately from abilities is so much more satisfying
I know this is a REALLY old video, but if focus crystal is double negated by armor values, could they be double buffed by negative armor from scorpion or hammer?
so if i have a tri tip, to get it to prock more times i should look for diffrent proc items because at each point in the proc chain it has a chance to start its dammage
yes, items that can proc would stack the bleed more frequently but the damage of the bleed itself is still not worth, due to only scaling off of base damage. it will be a VERY small portion of your overall damage and the items that are proc'ing it will be do far more dmg themselves
@@Woolie yah I get that just proof of concept, thank you Mr. Streamer
F. (For the stick bomb printer)
Oh so shaped glass stacks like if you have 5 of em it becomes 5x5x5x5x5, or is it just whit different items?
Mans got a PHD in RiskOfRainomics
Do you have any clue how damage calculations are handled for heavy? I'm 99 percent sure that its a pretty big multiplier so Loader/Mult-i would do Base dmg*Ability ratio*Velocity but I can't find exact values anywhere.
I'm new to Risk of Rain and I don't know if there is any point to overcap proc chance (like having more than 10 crit lenses)
My smooth brain can barely grasp this
Hey Mr. Streamer, big fan :D. While trying to make my own tool for dps calculation I was referencing your spreadsheet and noticed something off. Not trying to take away from all the work that it obviously took, but in the proc chain probabilities it looks like you added instead of multiplied. As in an ATG proccing a Kjaro's should be 10% * 8% = 0.8%, not 10% + 8%, etc. All the chain damage is really overinflated.
The chain damage (per hit) is accurate but the DPS is very over-inflated, yeah.
wait how would you have 50 increased attack speed from start? the only item that stacks attack speed is soldier syringe (i am not counting predstinct do to the whole caveat of you must crit to get the effect) which increases attack speed in increments of 15.
pogu
I'm just sad you didn't pick up the legendary on sirens call after killing the eye unit
is there a damage calculator for artificer?
What about, nnukahana killing, creating 3 knives (ceremonial dagger) which crits and heals me (aegis) and procs nukahanas again...
4:14 - Is this your second run, or how did you unlock "The Basics" during this run?
the footage was from the One Run challenge
@@Woolie Oh ok, I gotcha, thanks!
Maybe I missed it in the video, but I was wondering about damage values during a proc chain. For instance, you said an AtG missile is 300% of the commando's attack value based on whatever move you used (so 10.8 with a level 1 primary). But let's say that the AtG starts a proc chain. Is the subsequent procs in that chain also based on the 10.8, or is it based on the damage value of the item that proc'd it? Like, would a ukelele in that chain have damage based on the 10.8, or would it be based on the 32 of the missile?
Based on the hit (item, ability, doesn't matter) that started the chain. An ATG can't start a chain because you have to proc it via other hits but something like a Will o the Wisp can due to being the "first hit"
Yeah proc chains are nice and all but early game Loader can clear stage 4 with a chronobauble and a medkit
so you are telling me that if i use a total damage item for example ˝atg˝ and i proc it whit ˝captains diablo strie˝ it deals 120,000% damage?
Is Mithrix considered a TP boss?
why woolie big smart
So if I get this right, if there's an ATG from a chest for example, it would be better for the Artificer who deals high damage over the Commando even if he has a couple of Syringes ?
Not necessarily - Artificer's abilities dont have quite enough damage versus Commando's proc rate. It's more of a comparison between stacking damage items versus attack speed and looking at ability damage versus equipment
All I gotta know is kaboom items blow stuff up 😎
If you don't want people to edit the red cells on the sheet, you should lock the red cells and then protect the sheet. Cool vid, cheers for doing the work for us lazy asses
the entire sheet is locked and must be downloaded (and ran locally) to edit anything because, otherwise, if more than 1 person were using the online version at a time, the numbers would constantly be changing for everyone there and that wouldn't be fun
I believe if I locked the cells, uploaded it and then someone downloaded, they could then just unlock the cells themselves but you're right, it would save a lil bit of headache
Yass
Agreed!
how do I know how much damage my N'kuhana can deal when I have 25k health?
Been playing this with my buddies. We usually shoot for 100% crit chance because why the fuck not. So usually a mix between glasses, predatory instincts (the headdress), and harvester scythe. we started off doing just 10 glasses but realized we could do less, and throw in 2 predatory instincts and 2 harvester scythes.
I had one game where we made it to level 9 (one loop extra) and I had 10 scythes, 3 behemoths, 5 rejuvenation racks, an aegis, with various whites and greens.... i literally won the 9th level boss, ready to go to 10th, and i randomly died from an explosion that came out of nowhere. i think it proced when the boss died? either way was kinda shitty to die like that considering how well i was doing. i feel like the game needs double the items to make it more fun. you generally end up trying the same loadout over and over with minor tweaks to see how far you can get.... so far the furthest ive been is level 9 (one loop)
Hello! I might have found a thing. A combo of items that had what seemed like a near un ending Proc chain...which I never got to find out if there was a true ending because the game froze and then crashed. (Playing on Switch) This was playing with the command artifact so keep in mind that getting all this in a normal run is not realistic buuuuuut here is the items you need.
2X 57 leaf clover
2X sentient meat hooks
2x Molten Perforator
3X Ukulele
Very pretty fireworks happened which was my initial goal. My question is this:
Is this an infinite Proc Chain? And I guess the next question is, if you play on a PC can you use this to start a few chains and then go AFK to win?
As far as the devs explain it isn't possible to have an infinite proc chain. For instance, lets say the meathook procs molten perforator, the fireballs from molten perforator launch out and hit things proccing Ukulele, the Ukulele hits things, but it *cannot* proc molten perforator or meathook, because those items were in the proc chain already. You could put them in any order, any one of those could proc any of the others, but they can't repeat. Some other fourth thing would have to occur to start a new chain, like attacking something with your primary attack etc.
how do I ban clay templars from spawning please and thank you
Never - take it like a man
Update video of
For 1.0 version
You dont need proc chains if everything is slow, Mr Streamer
Ive never seen the version or area he’s on in distant roost at 7:55
Am I crazy or is it because i’m on console?
console - you all get the update in March
Woolie Thanks man! I’ve literally watched all your videos these past few days. I love your conciseness and you do a great job here! Hope you stream again soon!
10:26
I might just be clueless but what is a proc
I’m very new to the game have no idea what it is