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The 6505 is, to me, the sound of NWOAHM in the mid 00s. EMGs into a boosted 6505 thru v30s is just iconic. It's been done to death now, but damn it sounds great. Rob Arnold, a longtime Peavey guy, recently made a video about his love of the EMG 81 and it really is a case of "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Great video, thanks Jon! Edit: love that clean tone section! Surprisingly smooth tone from this fire breather!
Oh man, i really admire your work. You put a lot of passion and dedication into your videos, and you are also f***ing serious at riffing, my best wishes to you and your channel.
I wish I had a place to jam these huge amps I will have to settle for the 6505 MH. Ive got the Invective MH and Stealth 5150 15watt and love both of them. 6505 is next up.
Would you say it's better boosted? I'm currently using precision drive clones for the stealth and the built in boost for the Invective. My Engl Ironball needs no boost lol.
Damn dude , your content is straight 🔥 . Bought my first Schecter 2 months ago and was blown away . I see why you have so many. Just ordered my 2nd today . A Jake Pitts E-1. Can’t wait . Thanks Jon 🤘🏻🤘🏻 Love the Red Reign Apocalypse.
Very nice presentation, especially the real cab dialing part. Sometimes you don't need any more complexity other than just this straightforward amp. I use the original 5150 with a Hughes & Kettner 4x12 in the rehearsal room with utmost satisfaction. The amp is very loud! The amp is so simple, the clean with crunch engaged and of course the lead channel for ultimate high gain roar. I have to turn down resonance to 3 in order to make some space for other instruments in the low end as well. Presence works a bit different on the 5150. At position 5 gives enough openness. Great video again. Chears.
My first ever tube amp is EVH 5150 stealth, I feel like 5150/6505, whether Peavey or EVH, are some of the most iconic amps ever made, and they’re just very close to my heart, I’d buy a hundred of them if I could haha
I've been hunting for a head for about a year, and nothing that I have tried has really been what I want. But the stealth is by far the closest. To me, the stealth has a much more 80s thing going on, more mid-range. The 6505 and the 5150 iconic are more thrashy and percussive and tight, which isn't what I'm going for. Too scooped
@@jamesmoses4066 I feel like Stealth can do it all tbh. Although I’m using it mostly for high gain metal, I’m also in love with the green channel. Got an EQ pedal to tweak the amp even further and it’s just the complete all-rounder for me, but I also have a modded jcm800 studio that I mostly use for the 80s stuff
@@llnkv_ have you compared it to any of the other 5150 variants? I know everyone says these all sound the same, but I swear the stealth sounds completely different from other 5150s
@@jamesmoses4066I have the 100 watt el34stealth and I’ve recorded the old school 5150. I can say they sound extremely similar. The old school is a bit more unhinged sounding. Maybe Rae would be a better word for it. Pissed off maybe? Where the el34 stealth just sounds super polished in comparison. Even if I were to just pick a random mic placement on the cab and just record my evh it’s gonna have this focus that a peavey won’t have. Not saying better or worse. They both have their very important uses. For me in most cases I would probably prefer a peavey over my evh. I prefer my evh tone over a peavey but I find myself mixing music that would call for an old school peavey before it would call for a modern evh. And yes I like to reamp. So I miss out on using my evh rig a lot. I have however recently found a way to get my evh to sound a little more old school. I just use my boss eq200 and lower the volume to the input of my amp. This makes the amp behave and sound (to my ears) much more like an old peavey than an evh. I do this for mixing. But for jamming out by myself I just let it rip full bore because why wouldn’t I?! With all that gain on tap it’s easy to have fun jamming alone.
When I say that this demo sonically buttered my aurical bread, I am sincere! This is one of my favorite videos you've ever done! I also really enjoy hearing these amps in the room during your dialing in segments at the end. Bravo, buddy!
How much I love this amp! The value for money is impressive, you can hardly get a lead channel so good at this price. Good job as always, btw. If I may suggest something: I would be interesting in a more detailed demo with a real cab, maybe with a couple of different mics, to get a richer and more similar to recordings sound. Cheers! Keep on doin'it 🫡
Wow this amp sounds fantastic! I've always liked the 5150s but the 6505 II few under my radar. I know it's the same lineage and your example sounds particularly good. I was using my 6505 mini head until I sprung for my Astro-20
I have one, it's great. I've owned the 5150 2x12 combo, several 6505+ and the evh 5153 6L6 stealth, this one is my favorite. The cleans are great, especially for live, a pure clean tone doesn't cut as well as something with a little bit of saturation
Nice video as always! About the presence knob James Brown (the designer of the 5150) explained that it was an error of "tape" and before noon it has no action as you said. I Like to krank the presence knob between 8 and 9 and lower the horrible trebles...the 5150 2 is tighter because Eddie really liked the voicing of the 2x12 combo and asked James Brown to keep the mod on the new version.
I was looking down at my phone(passively watching your video) and then I heard your metal demo 2 come on and my eyes went up instantly to see what you were playing. Sounding good, my man! Yeah, doing a comparison between the 1992 and the 6505+ would be great. I don't have any of the "5150" family of amps, but I really should get one. That UA Anti pedal sounded good, as well. If a person wants that 5150 sound, they got some many options to choose from.
Great demo and that amp for the price is a killer. It can hold its own and then some against amps double or triple the cost. They should make a 50 watt version of that and trim it down.
Definitely it's more tight and polished amp tone, it can still get pretty gnarly with a boost. Even though it's crazy, there are those that still boost a 5150/6505 😂😂😂
The 5150 & 6505 are interesting in that from an EQ perspective I find them plenty tight, but the lead channel is so saturated that it makes them feel less tight. A tube screamer style mid boost in front or an EQ in the loop for added mids is nice.
Love the amp demo! Sure sounds like fans of the amp would want. Out of curiosity, how is the neck profile of the Schecter Solo guitar versus some of your Les Paul’s?
Guessing the mic'd section was at the lowest volume possible? As in when the power section actually starts doing its thing? Loved my old 6505 when I could open the taps but things seemed muffled at TV volumes. Then again, same thing with my old 5150III. Mark v 25 was a little better, but ultimately that's the reason I went to modelers. Sounds right at any volume. And yeah, still need to tweak things for loud/quiet play but that's no different than a real amp. Still miss the amp in the room sound. Not sure I miss the "I should be wearing earplugs in my living room with the amp on 1" tho! Got so loud, so quick. Great riffs/songlets and the amp sounded awesome :)
The Amp sounded great. All the guitars were sounding very good until you got to the Schecter at the end. It was sounding muffled, and lacked articulation, until you pressed the "Bright" button on the Amp, and that saved the day. 👍
Between the green channel clean, the green channel with Crunch, and the Red Channel with and without Crunch, you have 4 distinct tones right out of the box that responds incredibly to whatever guitar you choose to run through it.
@@crucifixgym I'm confused. The 6505 II is just a newer version of the 6505+. You're telling me you can hear a difference on the lead channel when you hit the crunch button?
@@SonicDriveStudio Yeah. To me they sound unbalanced in the low end. Wouldn't be my first choice in the studio, but don't get me wrong, they're still totally usable.
I noticed that when you review amps like this, you don't plug them into real speakers. That means the power amp isn't used, and we're only listening to the preamp. Is there a reason for doing it this way? I would really like to hear how it sounds when using the entire amp.
@@052RC that's incorrect. For the "direct" examples (because I also did a bit through my cab) I use a reactive load. That's a way of going direct from the speaker out, so you hear the entire amp all the time, not just the preamp
@@SonicDriveStudio Thanks for the info. I watch a lot of your videos, and it can be a little confusing when you run through the signal chain. A few of the other posters had the same concern as I did. Obviously, loading the circuit and taking the signal from the amp and not the preamp, is a huge step in the right direction. I have another question for you, if you don't mind. Using the method above, are you able to simulate power amp and speaker distortion? And what I mean by that, is in the preamp, you overdrive the input tubes directly with gain, and the actual signal distorts. Volume controls are transparent, and can't alter the signal in any way. Since you can't distort the signal with gain in the power amp, you have to do it indirectly with volume. Essentially, you have to increase volume until the power tubes fail, and can't play clean anymore. Its just like if turn the volume up on a regular stereo system until it distorts. The signal itself isn't distorted, the system just can't play cleanly at the volume you're asking it to. This is very different that preamp distortion, and I'm just asking if you're able to simulate that as well?
bro are you taking lessons or something? Your playing is improved as fuck and its much more melodic and notes / chords makes sense together ( Dont get me wrong but before it was all chug with notes didnt make sense with each other tbh )
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The 6505 is, to me, the sound of NWOAHM in the mid 00s.
EMGs into a boosted 6505 thru v30s is just iconic. It's been done to death now, but damn it sounds great. Rob Arnold, a longtime Peavey guy, recently made a video about his love of the EMG 81 and it really is a case of "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
Great video, thanks Jon!
Edit: love that clean tone section! Surprisingly smooth tone from this fire breather!
@@zacharysmithingell5460 That setup is the quintessential metal sound, overdone but can't go wrong with it!!!
@@JohnWiku overdone, because hella popular and everyone dug it
Oh man, i really admire your work. You put a lot of passion and dedication into your videos, and you are also f***ing serious at riffing, my best wishes to you and your channel.
I wish I had a place to jam these huge amps I will have to settle for the 6505 MH. Ive got the Invective MH and Stealth 5150 15watt and love both of them. 6505 is next up.
The MH is a LOT of fun!
Would you say it's better boosted? I'm currently using precision drive clones for the stealth and the built in boost for the Invective. My Engl Ironball needs no boost lol.
If you are using 15 watts the 50,watt head are not going to be that much louder. I use 50 stealth I’ve had 50 differs tube heads.
@@jconner3891 I use the lower power settings and on the Invective and Engl I use the 1 watt setting and it's still loud for my apartment lol.
Damn dude , your content is straight 🔥 . Bought my first Schecter 2 months ago and was blown away . I see why you have so many. Just ordered my 2nd today . A Jake Pitts E-1. Can’t wait . Thanks Jon 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Love the Red Reign Apocalypse.
Very nice presentation, especially the real cab dialing part. Sometimes you don't need any more complexity other than just this straightforward amp. I use the original 5150 with a Hughes & Kettner 4x12 in the rehearsal room with utmost satisfaction. The amp is very loud! The amp is so simple, the clean with crunch engaged and of course the lead channel for ultimate high gain roar. I have to turn down resonance to 3 in order to make some space for other instruments in the low end as well. Presence works a bit different on the 5150. At position 5 gives enough openness. Great video again. Chears.
Absolutely love the sound you dialled in
My first ever tube amp is EVH 5150 stealth, I feel like 5150/6505, whether Peavey or EVH, are some of the most iconic amps ever made, and they’re just very close to my heart, I’d buy a hundred of them if I could haha
I've been hunting for a head for about a year, and nothing that I have tried has really been what I want. But the stealth is by far the closest. To me, the stealth has a much more 80s thing going on, more mid-range. The 6505 and the 5150 iconic are more thrashy and percussive and tight, which isn't what I'm going for. Too scooped
@@jamesmoses4066 I feel like Stealth can do it all tbh. Although I’m using it mostly for high gain metal, I’m also in love with the green channel. Got an EQ pedal to tweak the amp even further and it’s just the complete all-rounder for me, but I also have a modded jcm800 studio that I mostly use for the 80s stuff
@@llnkv_ have you compared it to any of the other 5150 variants? I know everyone says these all sound the same, but I swear the stealth sounds completely different from other 5150s
@@jamesmoses4066I have the 100 watt el34stealth and I’ve recorded the old school 5150. I can say they sound extremely similar. The old school is a bit more unhinged sounding. Maybe Rae would be a better word for it. Pissed off maybe? Where the el34 stealth just sounds super polished in comparison. Even if I were to just pick a random mic placement on the cab and just record my evh it’s gonna have this focus that a peavey won’t have. Not saying better or worse. They both have their very important uses.
For me in most cases I would probably prefer a peavey over my evh. I prefer my evh tone over a peavey but I find myself mixing music that would call for an old school peavey before it would call for a modern evh. And yes I like to reamp. So I miss out on using my evh rig a lot.
I have however recently found a way to get my evh to sound a little more old school. I just use my boss eq200 and lower the volume to the input of my amp. This makes the amp behave and sound (to my ears) much more like an old peavey than an evh. I do this for mixing. But for jamming out by myself I just let it rip full bore because why wouldn’t I?! With all that gain on tap it’s easy to have fun jamming alone.
When I say that this demo sonically buttered my aurical bread, I am sincere! This is one of my favorite videos you've ever done! I also really enjoy hearing these amps in the room during your dialing in segments at the end. Bravo, buddy!
Thank you so much my friend!
How much I love this amp! The value for money is impressive, you can hardly get a lead channel so good at this price. Good job as always, btw. If I may suggest something: I would be interesting in a more detailed demo with a real cab, maybe with a couple of different mics, to get a richer and more similar to recordings sound. Cheers! Keep on doin'it 🫡
The only video that I've seen you try to convince yourself to like something. ❤
Those amps are amazing when dialed in properly. ✊
I didn't need convincing at all, loved it from the first time I turned it on!
Wow this amp sounds fantastic! I've always liked the 5150s but the 6505 II few under my radar. I know it's the same lineage and your example sounds particularly good. I was using my 6505 mini head until I sprung for my Astro-20
Always totaly stunned by your amp collection in the background 🤩
Cheers! 😊
I have one, it's great. I've owned the 5150 2x12 combo, several 6505+ and the evh 5153 6L6 stealth, this one is my favorite. The cleans are great, especially for live, a pure clean tone doesn't cut as well as something with a little bit of saturation
Jon! Please stop making these fantastic demos! You're making buy all this gear!
Haha! Cheers mate
I know right. Wife getting pissed. Lol
You're making buy?
Just play with them in the form of plugins ;)
Way cheaper and more flexible;)
When this amp came out I asked if you were gonna check it out, I am glad that you finally did.
Nice video as always! About the presence knob James Brown (the designer of the 5150) explained that it was an error of "tape" and before noon it has no action as you said. I Like to krank the presence knob between 8 and 9 and lower the horrible trebles...the 5150 2 is tighter because Eddie really liked the voicing of the 2x12 combo and asked James Brown to keep the mod on the new version.
That’s why I love it! That thing sounds pretty damn tight and definitely has that MEAN snarl in its tone! 🤘🤘🤘
Jon, great review as always, what a sound!
You know what to do, old 6505 vs new 6505 vs new 6505 2 😂😂😂
Best amp demos on you tube 🤘🏽
I love 6505’s , just wish the clean channel was a bit better
But the crunch and lead kill
I was looking down at my phone(passively watching your video) and then I heard your metal demo 2 come on and my eyes went up instantly to see what you were playing. Sounding good, my man! Yeah, doing a comparison between the 1992 and the 6505+ would be great. I don't have any of the "5150" family of amps, but I really should get one. That UA Anti pedal sounded good, as well. If a person wants that 5150 sound, they got some many options to choose from.
Man, that ENGL cab sounds fantastic!
Love those harmonies!!
Great demo and that amp for the price is a killer. It can hold its own and then some against amps double or triple the cost. They should make a 50 watt version of that and trim it down.
A very smooth almost gentle scoop but still very metal, nice range as well it does growl and snarl nicely with the baritone.
Everything you play sounds awesome
That green channel sounds amazing!
The geen channel boosted is one of the greatest metal tones possible!
Great video! Would love to see a 6505II vs 1992!
17:17 stellar tone 5150 in Engl cab/v30/sm57 tone
13:05 Bury your dead "beauty and the beast" tone vibes
I absolutely love my 6505ii...with zakk wylde chorus in loop sd1 in front and noise gate....amazing on my Mesa Boogie traditional slant 4x12
KIller video dude , id like to see a tutorial on your bass sound too man , that drill/piano bassnote klank sound is great
Cool video !
+1 for comparaison 1992 vs 6505 II 🙏
I've just bought this Schecter , amazing :)
Which one?
@@SonicDriveStudio red one :) the first
damn so many schecters ..... :)
Haha love my Schecters!
Love your vids a lot! great job!
Thanks!
I've had one since March and I love it. If I had to compare it with my 6505 (old version) I'd say it has perhaps less gain and is less raw.
Definitely it's more tight and polished amp tone, it can still get pretty gnarly with a boost.
Even though it's crazy, there are those that still boost a 5150/6505 😂😂😂
Love the amp, but the bass tone was unreal.
The 5150 & 6505 are interesting in that from an EQ perspective I find them plenty tight, but the lead channel is so saturated that it makes them feel less tight. A tube screamer style mid boost in front or an EQ in the loop for added mids is nice.
Would love to hear a Mesa Mark VII demo from you
Super Video and super Sound 🤘🤩🤘
You should do a shootout between all your 6505/5150 style amps, that'd be pretty awesome imo
I would love if you make an amp history video. You explain very well. lml
That crunch tone tho
Damn used to be an LTD/ESP guy now almost all schecters? Did I miss something 😂 great tones bro!
I love all my guitars but the Shecters have just been so amazing! Nothing against LTD of course
LETS SEE A COMPARISON WITH THE 1992 ORIGINAL PLEASE.
Love the amp demo! Sure sounds like fans of the amp would want.
Out of curiosity, how is the neck profile of the Schecter Solo guitar versus some of your Les Paul’s?
It's slightly faster and more slim but not shredder
wish UAD allowed a review of the pedal Anti 1992 against the real amps and as elaborated like this
Guessing the mic'd section was at the lowest volume possible? As in when the power section actually starts doing its thing? Loved my old 6505 when I could open the taps but things seemed muffled at TV volumes. Then again, same thing with my old 5150III. Mark v 25 was a little better, but ultimately that's the reason I went to modelers. Sounds right at any volume. And yeah, still need to tweak things for loud/quiet play but that's no different than a real amp. Still miss the amp in the room sound. Not sure I miss the "I should be wearing earplugs in my living room with the amp on 1" tho! Got so loud, so quick.
Great riffs/songlets and the amp sounded awesome :)
Not at the lowest possible setting but it does get loud pretty quick indeed haha!
The Amp sounded great. All the guitars were sounding very good until you got to the Schecter at the end. It was sounding muffled, and lacked articulation, until you pressed the "Bright" button on the Amp, and that saved the day. 👍
Dude… Are all these your riffs and songs? Sounds absolutely amazing!
Thanks! Yes, all the music on this channel is original
@@SonicDriveStudio That’s impressive! The production is top tier, but the creativity is what stands out to me
@antonjohnsson679 I really appreciate it! Thanks
My kind of amp....I believe Killswitch used it for End of Heartache album
Yes! compare to 6505 1992 orig. AND if you have a 6505+!
Between the green channel clean, the green channel with Crunch, and the Red Channel with and without Crunch, you have 4 distinct tones right out of the box that responds incredibly to whatever guitar you choose to run through it.
The crunch only works on the green channel. I have two 6505+ heads and it does nothing on the lead channel.
@@deathmetal0914 sorry to hear that, on the 6505 II it makes a very noticeable difference in sound.
@@crucifixgym I'm confused. The 6505 II is just a newer version of the 6505+. You're telling me you can hear a difference on the lead channel when you hit the crunch button?
@@deathmetal0914 yes.
@@crucifixgym Agree to disagree I suppose.
The thing that bums me out about ENGL cabs is I've never heard one I've like mic-ed up. They do sound great in a band setting, though.
Really? I love the mic'ed up sound so much
@@SonicDriveStudio Yeah. To me they sound unbalanced in the low end. Wouldn't be my first choice in the studio, but don't get me wrong, they're still totally usable.
Great amp don’t get me wrong but nothing beats an original USA 6505+… tone is unmatched 🔥🤘🏽
The 6505 II beats it. The EVH Stealth beats it.
@@joshbarnes6759 I have the stealth 50 watt. Great amp but can be a little too dark at times.
Please keep up the dialing in amp through cab section. Cheers!
That's definitely the goal! I'm trying to be less shy :)
@@SonicDriveStudio F shy! Get a KHE amp switcher, set up some heads and let it rip. It's really helpful and fun.
That riff and sound at 11:11...AF!
Bro, are you mad? Of course the mids sit well in the mix - THEY'RE THE ONLY MIDS IN THE MIX!!
Nice chugs tho
Not every amp has mids like a 6505 ;)
@@SonicDriveStudio You mean not every mids has an amp like a 6505 :)
I think if I was to get one I would grab the invective one twenty instead
Also a great amp!
I play a Diezel vh4, so it's just 'meh' for me. It's all personal taste. Nice playing, though.
tell us about that bass toooneee
Did you play bass on the demo yourself? I want to know about that bass cuz its fking heavy
Yes, I play bass on all my stuff!
@@SonicDriveStudio cool. You are the nicest metal guy I've ever seen. Have a good day(Actually, it is night in our country lol)
@HExXeye good night mate! :)
The real deal is actually the 5150 2x12 combo. Use another cab. Crunch channel 😮 never been a fan of the red channel on any tbh
Can you give me more detail about the IR : was it a mesa trad IR ?
Thanks
Mega Trad by ML Sound Lab
I noticed that when you review amps like this, you don't plug them into real speakers. That means the power amp isn't used, and we're only listening to the preamp. Is there a reason for doing it this way? I would really like to hear how it sounds when using the entire amp.
@@052RC that's incorrect. For the "direct" examples (because I also did a bit through my cab) I use a reactive load. That's a way of going direct from the speaker out, so you hear the entire amp all the time, not just the preamp
@@SonicDriveStudio Thanks for the info. I watch a lot of your videos, and it can be a little confusing when you run through the signal chain. A few of the other posters had the same concern as I did. Obviously, loading the circuit and taking the signal from the amp and not the preamp, is a huge step in the right direction.
I have another question for you, if you don't mind. Using the method above, are you able to simulate power amp and speaker distortion? And what I mean by that, is in the preamp, you overdrive the input tubes directly with gain, and the actual signal distorts. Volume controls are transparent, and can't alter the signal in any way. Since you can't distort the signal with gain in the power amp, you have to do it indirectly with volume. Essentially, you have to increase volume until the power tubes fail, and can't play clean anymore. Its just like if turn the volume up on a regular stereo system until it distorts. The signal itself isn't distorted, the system just can't play cleanly at the volume you're asking it to. This is very different that preamp distortion, and I'm just asking if you're able to simulate that as well?
What did you use to tame the insane hiss?
It's not so bad tbh. But I used a gate
bro are you taking lessons or something? Your playing is improved as fuck and its much more melodic and notes / chords makes sense together ( Dont get me wrong but before it was all chug with notes didnt make sense with each other tbh )
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