How To Lock Your Bike In Town | Urban Bike Security Guide
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2019
- Leaving your bike unattended in an urban environment puts it at high risk of being stolen. Doddy shares some tips on how and where to lock up your MTB to reduce the chance of theft as much as possible 🔧
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Using a D-Lock or heavy-duty chain lock, locking your mountain bike in the right area, and in the correct way will all reduce the risk of it being stolen.
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Pro Tip: Lock it up next to a more expensive one
it's quite rare that expensive bike owners use cheap locks ...
@@masterpye69 not where I live apparently xD
Everything is more expensive than my bike.
Because a car is just as easy to steal as a bike 👌
And what about us who own bike that costs 3-4 k?
Just imagine if people didn't touch what wasn't theirs and no one would need a lock. What a wonderful world.
going off them rules then most of the modern world wouldn't exist
Seen that in Sweden and the Netherlands, but many years ago. I wonder if some people still doesn't lock their bikes there (cheap old City bikes)
when there is income inequality there is theft
@@mustardtoast8328 Income inequality, what does that even mean?
@@Terra101Really!? Quite basic actually... but ok, here goes. High income=Rich, meaning having more than one needs vs. no or low income=poor, meaning needs not or inadequately met. So as one can surmise, these are not equal terms. Again, pretty basic stuff here
I once worked in private and public security as a guard and security advisor. In a large city like Vancouver I found that thief's often wore a reflective vest posing as a city worker removing so called "illegally" parked bikes. On security camera footage you would see them talking to the public as they where stealing the bike(s). You would be surprised how often that happens. Some would take up to 4 bikes at a time and walk away with them and NO one cared at all or even notice what was happening.
So instead of taking action you were watching it. But blame the other..
@@O-.-O They were watching a surveillance video recording, not real time.
Any city administration should make it extremely clear to the public what illegal bike parking is and what's not as well as how a licensed worker's uniform looks like. Paying attention to suspicious activity and asking to see badges should become part of the base culture. Also a voluntary registration platform helps a lot (watch Shifter's video about it).
In trouble areas, I think putting more visible and unmistakable signs like "BIKE PARKING *NOT* ILLEGAL HERE!" and a pictogram of a thief or something could also raise awareness.
In general, bike theft should be treated like the crime it is and be properly penalized.
I've seen bikes get stolen by very obvious thieves at crowded bus stops. People look on. It's very rare to get a bystander to actually do anything about it. Especially in London where the risk is you get stabbed so why bother being a hero.
A professional thief usually could careless if your using Titanic anchor chain, they go right for what you've got your bike locked to! Most bike racks can be cut through in seconds.
I rode my bike to a movie one time and when I came out my bike was still there but because they couldn't steal my bike they stole my seat. I'm still mad about it and that was ten years ago. I honestly think them just stealing my seat for spite makes me madder than if they had just taken the whole bike.
The seat is worth cash, silly goose.
you're lucky they didn't take a crowbar/baseball bat to the wheels, but that sucks, you gotta stand up and it's just annoying. effing bastards
@@fisty539 Everyone breaks traffic laws and looks the other way. Then when their bikes are stolen by crooks, you bitch? Lok at the guy on the video. Dark clothing? Really? Social responsibility is not a cycling custom. Social negligence is. Until cyclists stop buying hot bikes and start obeying traffic laws, your clusterfuck will continue to delight you, Pinhead.
@@martinkent333 dude what? You said the seat is worth cash, I replied by saying it sucks having your seat taken since you gotta stand up. And that it was lucky they didn't bash the bike wheels in too. You then go on a rant about cyclists obeying traffic laws and wearing dark clothing neither of which I said anything about.
I'm watching this vid to not get my stuff stolen, if a cars behind me I pull over coz it's better to not make them angry as they're driving a 10 tonne machine that'll kill me if I make the wrong move. Buying hot bikes? Again wtf said that? Think you replied to the wrong comment mate
@@fisty539 In other words, you ignore traffic laws and ride a hot bike.
Sorry Doddy - NEVER wear a chain around your waist! As an ex-motorcyclist with a friend in a wheelchair due to a broken spine caused by a chain around his waist...
Wrap it carefully around the frame, but PLEASE do NOT put it round your waist!! All it takes is one nasty OTB onto your back on hard ground, and you ain't walking again. 😢
Never thought of that, thanks for sharing.
What does OTB mean
Savage I was convinced until you mentioned that. Thanks man
@@ccllvn over the bar
Tbf those motorcycle chains are massive. We're talking a much smaller set and lower speed.
I am a welder. I carry my tools everyday to work and I... weld my bike to fence till evening.
hahaha
Pictures or it didn't happen 😂
I dunno if this is for real but you made me chuckle 😂
Perfection
Bullshit no way you are carrying a welder around on your bike.
I've been locking bikes up for 40+ years ... and I still learned ALOT from this video. You also gave me a number of ideas that I never thought of. My compliments brother. Great job.
How many bikes have you lost
Never use only a single lock! All locks have a weakness against specific tools. Always use two locks of different types that require different tools to break, like a wire lock and a folding lock, or a chain lock and a D-lock... That way you also have a separate lock to protect your fork and front wheel.
Also there are folding locks with an integrated alarm that works quite well!
Except for the Hiplok D1000. But you'd still need more than one of them to protect frame plus both wheels.
Meh, way too much of a hassle. I have good insurance and I'll rather take the blow and get my bike stolen than be paranoid about it all the time.
@@novacolonel5287 For me that would depend on the bike. I usually do quite a bit of custom adaptations that the insurance will not cover... It doesn't cost much money, but a lot of time, so for me it is less hasle to secure the bike in a way that gets the thief to choose an easier target.
Thanks for providing that easy target! :)
@@Espen_Danielsen you're welcome - that's why we need different philosophies 😁
@@novacolonel5287 Yep. Living in fear is bad for the soul.
So if you wanted to steal a bike just have a friend with a camera stand across the street. If someone stops you just say that you were filming a video and that it's your bike.
Bruh Burrito simple as
Nobody would actually stop you though because they don't care unless it was their own bike in which case it wouldn't work anyways.
Just ask to take picture. If it's their own bike they wont mind
@Doppelganger D cool story bro
Except that he has the key to the lock he just cut to prove that it is his bike.
And being in the UK he probably also has it bikeregister-ed, which he can pull up on his phone to show.
Its like leaving $12000 just laying around, except the police wont give a care when its stolen
His bike is like 3K max
@@andrei3720 hyperbole, look it up
@@Jeff-fx7bh Hyperbole? On the internet? I think you're asking a bit too much of a lots of people :)
@@andrei3720 considering the prices start at $4349 and go up to $10199, you are completely wrong. And if you think Doddy is going to have the cheapest options, again, you are wrong.
Let me try: just as you dont park a mclaren and walk away, you dont lock up 1k+ bikes on the street.
Realizing this is two years old I still have two to offer: take the chain off the chainring entirely. A quick and simple practice that has a similar effect to the hard gear approach. Might not save the bike from being stolen, but it'll buy you a few precious seconds. Secondly, even way back in the 80s my group had the wherewithal to put removable zip ties around the brake lever, squeezing it to the grip. Same idea, it might not keep your bike from getting stolen but there's a great chance if someone goes to steal it and throws themselves over the bars because the brakes are locked you just might recover your bike. Nothing is going to stop your bike from being stolen if someone is out specifically to steal YOURS, but it's not common for a thief to make multiple runs at the same spot in one sitting so if you can simply deter them you stand a much better chance at not having your bike nicked.
It’s worth checking the bike hoop you lock to in town, too. Another thieves’ trick is to cut a section out of the hoop, and then disguise it with duct tape. That leaves them then the possibility to just lift your bike and lock(s) out of the whole hoop! So be sure the thing you lock to really is secure.
Good video, though. Thanks!
Pic or it didn't happen
omg.
As a New Yorker who's seen stripped and vandalized bikes littered about the city for years, there's only one true safe approach to urban bike riding: Get the absolute worst, crappiest, beat up bike you can and use that for your urban commute. Then get a separate nice bike for your pleasure riding and don't even bother with a lock for your nice ride because you NEVER want to lock it up, you want to park this one inside. Always. Without exception. Urban thieves don't just steal bikes, they also massively vandalize them -- they twist the wheels, bust the frame, slice the cables. Get something as un-tempting as possible, something that says "I absolutely don't care about this bike". Added bonus, you'll be able to save $$$ on getting a cheap lock as well since no one will want to steal it.
I've seen stickers that can make the bike look damaged should try them.
man, there are really pathetic people in this world
Is baffles me how the government don’t just make it a 5 year prison sentence for stealing a bike.
@@TheAnonyy, can you please send me a link where to buy them? Those stickers I mean.
This is so true, like you want to have a cheap but ok bike that is at least able to be used on a commute, someone finna steal the bike no matter what.
“Thankfully most locks these days, certainly the gold standard ones are pretty much pickproof.”
LockPickingLawyer has joined the chat
Let's be real: maybe not 100% pickproof but 100% security for your bike. The chance of having lpl or bosnianbill picking your lock is very low and even if: they just close your lock to pick it again :P worst case imaginable: they'll steal the lock.
Many picking tools are long. Keys are short, and could even be cut shorter. Thus it would be easy to put an obstacle near the keyway, and the key would be put under that obstacle sideways, then pushed to the keyhole. F.ex. a tube could be put over a lock body, with holes drilled for the shackle. The obstacle would be fastened to the tube.
Picking is probably so rare, that the main advantage would be somewhat improved resistance against physical attacks. It's quite easy to fasten additional shields to locks, to the body and shackle.
I'd like to see him pick a lock with an alarm without making it activate. Just a simple motorcycle disk alarm lock would do.
@@4nlimited3dition_4n3d ive seen lockpickinglawyer do that
@ Karrier Bag Link?
I've seen bike stands that make theft more difficult. For one, a heavy, tilting steel frame had three extensions to go through both wheels and the bike frame, pinning them to the fixed part of the stand. Your lock was inside a steel box with only enough room to get in a key. The lock needed to be hard to pick, but otherwise the bike was secure. And while it probably cost more, it took up no more space than a regular bike stand.
That sounds good where was this?
Would love to see that idea catch on ... especially if e-bikes bring more people into cycling as part of a healthier life-style.... and a healthier planet.
Ooooooo I'd love to see these here!
I've got three anti-theft measures - I got - one medium sized U lock from Decathlon coated in rubber to prevent freeze attacks.. It has a bracket for carrying easily on the bike. I've got a cheap cable lock for quick stops - and I have a remote control motion alarm hidden under the saddle, which is 120db and very sensitive, unexpected and frightening to the thief. I have had one attempt to steal the rear wheel (thief loosened quick release) and the thief was terrified by the alarm and ran off. I didn't realise what happened until I tried to ride the bike and the real wheel felt strange!
Has it been stolen yet
@@brobiv2452 No! 🤣
there are many great options with gps stuff now small ones you can just drop down that saddle pipe, i used to have a pretty uniqe mtb and it got stolen 4 times, thats 20 years ago when gps and all that didnt exist but friends found it all over the city every time.
after many talks with police and insurance it was just easier steal it back instead, there was only one of that kind in our city back then and we spent alot on diffrent upgrades so was easy to recognice chrome and purple aluminium, titan etc. details.
Now i secure my bike with gps tracker and D lock and keep it inside as much you can, rust is never good :)
what kind of area do you live in? how nice is your bike? I'm thinking about getting an E-bike as a commuter but I wanna feel safe to go shopping and shit knowing no dumb shit is gonna happen to it.
@@Pjater81 I installed an Apple airtag today
When it comes to how little people care, i once lost my key due to a fire accident and had to "steal my own bike" at a very busy train station in Berlin, Germany. It took me and a friend nearly one hour of sawing through the lock with no major interferences whatsoever. That was maybe 16 years ago.
Over that period, only three people came to me asking what i'd do and upon saying that "I lost my keys and need to saw through my own lock to get my own bike back" they all left us alone to our business.
It should also be noted that a police station was maybe 100m away around the corner, thus not far away and it was mid-day during workdays.
So far for "how much do people care about the theft from others (not themself)".
imagine if you had to break open your own lock and the police questions you and you do not have any receipts or proof that the bike belong to you, what would happen then haha
@@Zz5H in germany? Nothing ^^
@@derhighland6528 thats bs. In germany you have the right to break your lock if necessary. If someone is calling the police tho and you CAN`T proof that its yours - they will take it with them.
lmao
@@heikootto2865 yeah sure xD see all those test videos ...
I'm always horrified when i see a great expensive bike locked up outside with a cheap combination lock bought from poundland. I've even left notes telling riders to buy a proper lock
You are a good person
Yes, I saw a review of these cheap locks. Hit it with a brick and it shatters.
I get excited when I see an expensive bike with a cheap lock. 🤣🤣🤣👌
it would not help anyway.
@@user-ru5vw2st5p I was told whatever you do it will go. You just try your best.
My bike was stolen last year just before the first lockdown. I bought that one at a car boot sale and got a new front tire for it and some mudguards. Literally had that bike for 7 years and I use to lock it using a cheap cable lock, even in public places. I'm looking to buy another second hand bike (I don't want to spend loads on a new bike bc I'm scared of it getting stolen) as I miss cycling.
If only people would just leave other people stuff alone. It's frustrating that we have to go through all this just to keep our bikes from not getting stolen. Thank you for the tips in this video
Just bought a new bike. This video helps you realize how simple it can get stolen and what lock you can use. So thanks for the info!
Sadly, a new trend is: thief brings a lock of their own, locks your bike with their lock and then you can’t take your bike anymore.
Then, they will come back at, let’s say, 3am armed with everything they need to crack your lock (no matter how strong it is) and get away with your bike...
Geez! That's insidious. I suppose you could probably get the police to help, especially if you could find some way to prove you owned it.
Can't really think of how you'd go about proving it, though...
Always the Mage don’t know... I guess if you have the invoice with the serial number of the frame on it ... but who goes for a ride with proof of purchase of their bike documents...
@@xaviergm I recently asked someone who works with the transport police, and apparently in the UK you can register your bike in the national cycle database so you can prove ownership.
Not sure if other places have anything similar but I never knew such a service existed. Good to know!
Always the Mage this is great news indeed! I will ask here in Switzerland if I can do the same thing.
Thanks a lot!
That's actually scary as hell, but also you just gave a lot of thieves an idea lol
I've been watching this for 15 minutes. Then I realized I don't even own a bike..
Willoh cause it’s been robbed
Ouch, impossible to live a happy life without a bicycle 🤣
@MurphyTV Congratulations 🙏👊😀
!?!?!?!
@@ianmangham4570 Hahaha! Up here in North Sweden we don't really need a bike 😅
Really great video, I'm 28 and never locked my bike. (I've also never left my bike anywhere and didn't use it much before lockdown or growing up). Great tips! Thank you. :)
This is the best, most comprehensive, bicycle security video I have found. Well done Mate‼️, Thank You 🙏Well Done 👍👍👍
My husband who loves his locks and is always saying that
" Most locks only give the illusion they are secure & in reality are there to keep honest ppl honest!"
When I leave my bike unlocked for a quick stop and where I can see it, I always leave it in the highest gear. A thief will not be able to speed away and will have to try and put in a lower gear while in panic mode.
Thats a good idea damn lol
You could also take one of the wheels off and turn it upside down so they cat ride away on it
Very good idea! I need to try this
Or the lowest gear
He says that in the video 16:15
I think the best way to protect your bike from theft is to put a GPS alarm on it and just a bunch of regular alarms. I imagine if someone tries to steal your bike or even throw it into a van, those alarms will cause an instant headache, and you track the bike on your phone. A chain is nice, but it's heavy and can be cut through with a battery-powered angle grinder. I think a bike with really loud alarms that causes an instant headache would deter someone from getting away with your bike. You'd hear the alarms echo around the street. Imagine something like that in the back of a van? It'd do your head in.
Are these alarms unsmashable?
Crime creates jobs though so it helps the economy.
Mh, i think the best way to lock a (e) bike up, would be an integrated locksystem. It would need an ignitian key, like with motorbikes and cars. It couldn't be turned on and pedals would be locked in place.
You must live in Europe. In the San Francisco Bay Area they wouldn't even care a little about an alarm. Trying to track the bike is an even worse idea. You're going to try and retrieve your bike? From the drug addicted criminals that stole it? Horrible idea. I hope you don't think the police are going to help. They might not laugh in your face but they are definitely not going to help you get your bike back.
@@mjwbulich same as always. If you want something done You need to do it yourself.
I thought the extension was too short and was frustrated, but now I see I was looking at it wrong and I can extend it by threading it inside the loop. Mind blown. Thanks.
You really need a spike, spring loaded in the seat tube so that if the bike is stolen, when they sit on the seat, the spike is driven up through their rear end. One attempted theft and they'll never sit on a bike seat again.
😂😂😂😂😂
🤣
Yeah bro, i'm not using a spring loaded spike seat, if it maqlfunctions i will never sit on a bike.
@@Lisekplhehe Nonsense - not a single one of the spring loaded spike seats has ever malfunctioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@GorgeGeorg In NYC they will steal your seat. So everyone takes them off when parking their bikes. Thieves have to bring their own.
Dat transition at 9:40
Glad I'm not the only one to notice. Smooth and seamless edit. A+
Clutch af
Nice
@sprEEEzy 😍
What a great video, I had two bikes stolen and improved my locking techniques over the time, but this video still gave me new ideas.
Glad about life in the middle of nowhere in Japan. Just need to lock the wheel and it's good. Thanks for the advice for busy places.
Three things I would add:
(1) Be mindful of any duct tape or similar on public bike loops outside stations or parks etc, quite often thieves have pre cut sections out of these then just taped them back in place so can be stolen in seconds.
(2) Don't lock bikes to a pole or traffic sign as they can just be lifted over the top.
(3) Don't lock a bike to a tree, wood is pretty easy to cut through...
Great tips. First I heard of the duct tape trick. I like to lock my bike next a patio full of people if possible. Failing that I will lock it next to a better bike. The real solution though, if possible, which is rare, is to bring it inside if possible. I went to a beer store today and parked my bike inside. They don't mind.
Hi, great tips but I disagree about the tree( but of course it depends on the size)
Years ago a bloke at work who's brother was a copper talked about this happening to farm gate chains. Next week I visited a farm, yep, back gate chain had a section cut out.
Depends how thick the tree is
Easy to cut through ya but not with bolt cutters and those damn leaves sure make a racket🤣
You just cant leave your baby unattended..
Do not chain babies to railings.
I added a GPS tracker to my bike, so I can hunt down the thief... fuck calling the cops.
@@greedfox7842 yup cops are useless af when you have no insurance for your bike I noticed that when my 5k bike was stolen 7 months ago and guess what they didn't even look for it
@@Rasakson you know what they say; you want something done, you have to do it yourself.
@Pat Paulo bike thieves on route to Denmark... lol
This was so helpful! I just started biking in my city where bike theft is rampant, and I am so nervous about that. But now I know what to try!
This is so appropriate for me. I caught someone trying to steal my bike yesterday. He cut through a cheap lock with a set of bolt cutters (which he probably stole). He very quickly changed his mind when I grabbed a hold of the seat post and lifted it with him still on it. He then ran if before I managed to really mess him up.
Now I am using two locks.
You lifted up the bike with the thief sitting on it?
"hard to pick"
1 is loose, a nice click out of 2, 3 is binding....
Said the Lock Picking Lawyer
not to mention cables are cut in 5-20 sec..... useless
I just get my bike out of house, drive to my destination, sell the bike. When I'm ready to go home I just buy another one
😂😂😂
Why does this sound really smart
🤣
It’s big brain time
@Albi Losha haga funny joke.... i hope
Great video. Compact D lock with extension appears to be the way. And change the gears when doing a quick stop.
Thanks for sharing! I can't believe I've been a cyclist for decades and never thought to put the d-lock through the wheel inside the triangle. Up until now, I've struggled to get it around the wheel and the frame. You are absolutely on the money regarding how blatant thieves are!
That style of locking through the rear wheel only is called the Sheldon Brown method, after the bike guru who popularized it. Unfortunately, if you have an expensive bike, it won't necessarily be enough: ua-cam.com/video/H9fLtdZyX-A/v-deo.html
Edit: Sheldon Brown, not Shannon Brown 😆
@@MSUTri Sheldon Brown?
@@mrbadger9920 😆 Yeah, apparently when tired after partying last night I was thinking Michigan State University basketball circa 2006... TBF I was a student there at the time, and discovering/devouring Sheldon Brown's website literally at the same time as watching Shannon Brown dunk on everyone.
Oh, and another thing: nice transition wipe, at 9:40 😉
Good spot..
I saw that too! Sweet!
this is a masking transition btw :) but used very nice there
Good eye XD
I think you spelled the title wrong, it should be:
"Don't lock your bike in town, actually never leave it unattended unless it's in your house"
True. I'm a thief sooo I can confirm ;)
@@stiven8556 wow
@T. Winter I have live in Eugene and Portland, each one of the top 5 cities for bike theft in America. If you don't have 2 locks on your bike it or parts of it will get stolen. My mountain bike I never leave unattended.
I use a large D lock threaded through frame, back wheel, and attached to a locking mount. Lock De-icer is important for those winter months when they freeze
I have been in the industry for over 30 years. I have always encouraged my customers to remove the front wheel, place it next to the rear, lock around the frame and both wheels, and finally remove the seat and seatpost. That makes your bicycle far less desirable as it can not be easily ridden away.
Now imagine your daily routine with this step added.... yeah.
When i was like 11, i went to london with my family (im from portugal) and then, in the middle of the street, you could see people stealing the wheels of every bike they found. They did that infront of everyone, which frustrates me.
@Cameron XP jeez
I'm happy I live in a small city. If you did anything like that, everyone would know.
Best thing to do is glue half razor blades on the inside of the rims. You will know they are there but hope thieves don’t
@@jonny7491 hahaha that would be a but too much dont u think?
adv__ Yes it does seem a bit extreme for the every day decent person, but we are dealing with low life so if it makes them think twice all the better.
Pro tip - don’t lock your bike up anywhere in public if you want to keep it. I’m a locksmith and there are a number of products unfortunately available to the public that can overcome pretty much everything with very little noise, skill and effort .
Hear that ppl nothing just dont leave your bike any where you can't take it or have to leave behind.
Do you stop at stop signs, Lock?
@@A-HotSauce Do you stop at stop signs, A?
@@martinkent333 I come down between lanes with both foot at the height of the mirrors and jump over cars crossing the junction while dinging my bell and screaming "fuck all people named Martin"
@@renanfilipe7459 AND TEENAGERS LAUGH AT YOU, RUBE. YOU COULD CARE LESS ABOUT YOUTH BIKE SAFETY. RIGHT?
Thank you so much❤ I’m as an old man who drive bikes for 60 years, I do learned a lot 😊
I loved that you did the classic whistle when committing a self induced crime. Thanks for the information, much needed to keep your bikes.
My solution is just not leaving it anywhere else than my home.
yeah ... that's sad but true.
World is so full of people wanting to make harm to others and damage other peoples stuff. Even if nice bike's frame would be locked, someone might damage the frame, puncture wheels, steal the saddle or seatpost etc just out of jealousy or some other stupid reason.
Yeah, I am 100% with you.
@@Pienimusta Yeah. Someone stole my pedals before off my electric bike probably out of jealousy. Out of all the things, he stole my $15 pedals. I did lock up my bike very well though, just not the pedals.
@Pienimusta I do the same
Whenever I go out, I always bring 5 locks with me😂
People look at me like I’m crazy but rather be safe than sorry
Wesley Burk Seriously!?
@poormans bicycles I have a big ass chain and it has an unpickable lock
It still doesn't feel safe enough but might be just me
@@cloroxmaster0084 unpickable, eh?
Hold my beer.
The Forever Lock, which was marketed as the most secure lock in the world, was broken in a week. With the technique down, it can be picked in thirty seconds. Most other locks can be picked in twenty seconds or less (there is one that takes ten to twenty minutes to pick but that's down to how the pins work). Bike thieves don't have the finesse. They'll spend five seconds cutting through the shackle or ramming a screwdriver through the barrel. I recently learned of a technique for bruteforcing locks with two 17mm spanners which, as you probably know, is a common size for wheel nuts so nobody's going to question you carrying two of those in your pocket with a pair of riding gloves and a puncture repair kit... I'm not going to tell you how to force a shackle open using two 17mm spanners, there are videos explaining the process.
Yup, I have two locks from kryptonite and two cables, yet still feel unsafe when leaving my bike. Thankfully I dont need to do it that much
@@BlokeOnAMotorbike A lot of truth at what you saying, but some locks wont budge from 17mm spanners. True about the finnesse that thieves lack also, so I worry less about how lockpick proof the lock is and more how tough it is. If its tough enough to stand its ground for at least 15seconds against a small angle grinder it will most definetely have a decent lock to go with it.
Game is to outlock others bikes and make yours look as too much hassle
Another good tip is to have 2 types of lock. If you have to go for cheapness, get two locks that have different bodies and different keyholes/key types.
Thanks for all the security tips -- many of which I would never have thought of despite decades on bikes.
Just moved to coastal San Diego County, CA, where they've built world-class bike infrastructure explicitly to get people out of their cars. So just bought an ebike to do my part whenever possible -- e.g., for beach and shopping trips.
But that will only work if I can safely leave the bike for minutes to hours at a time. Now I know how to contain the risk.
Exactly, this needs to be a tool of the climate policy planners in SD.
Just bought my first expensive bike after years of buying rust buckets and this video has been invaluable. Thanks.
Pickproof he says?
Laughs is lockpickinglawyer
lock picking lawyer will also say " skills not commonly found at the street level"
thieves looking for high dollar items are prepared and skilled, believe me
Some of these locks have gates in place that make picking much harder.
The Cordless angle grinders available today have all but eliminated lock picking. Even the best d-locks can be cut within 60 seconds or so with one.
It's his series on destructive attacks that are the real eye opener.
@@garyg7145 From a mechanic's point: Hardened chains are actually a bitch to cut with an angle grinder. The cutting blade will seize up, due to tension in the metal, and you need to do 2 cuts on the same link. It also gets too hot to hold with your hand. If I had to choose, I'd get a big ass chain. Everything else is too easy to cut through.
Having lost two bikes to theft…I thank you on behalf of others!
One bike was lost because I unwisely had no lock and had to hide it behind a bush after it developed a flat tire. The other bike, which I was rather fond of for all my time upon it, was stupidly lost because I lapsed once…and failed to lock it to a staircase post at home. I thought that it was out of sight behind the building, and I’d only be gone a half hour or so… Silly me! My bike was out of my sight, not out of the sight of someone else!
Great episode; hopefully taken to heart!!
i'm brand new to cycling. thank you for this very informative video with real-life scenarios.
The LockPickingLawyer channel is required viewing.
He picked the little folding lock in under 2 minutes and broke the heavy duty one with a nut splitter in under a minute.
"Hey, that bike thief has a camera man"
Iggy Norant just wait until real thieves start using that gimmick.
@@NotTheLarryDavid Ah, fuck.
@@NotTheLarryDavid Already do
@@NotTheLarryDavid genius. have a siren and a blinking ligt ontop of your head aswell and make a great fuzz about it being for show and then walk away with the bike.
z0uLess finally someone who gets me!
What a great info-piece ! Thank you so much for sharing !
Solid video and excellent production ect! Thank you!
The key is to have your bike LOOK like a clunker, but be really nice to ride... that’s what my buddy in the Netherlands always tells me. People intentionally mess up paint and stuff to create sleeper bikes. Confuse the enemy
I usually remove my pedals so they have to push it and can't get away
In my city that won't work. Tweakers here will steal the stink off dog shit.
I wrap mine in duck tape so it looks super bad from a distance xD
That’s like having a gorgeous girlfriend and telling her she must wear a bag over her head in public 😂
Decades ago, a friend of mine bought a beautiful Masi bike (back when they were real Masis). The next time I saw it, it was unrecognizable. It was a mix of nasty colors of flat and gloss spray paint all over, including the chain, chain rings and rims. Rob rode that bike everywhere, never locked it, and never lost it. The bike seriously looked like you could catch a disease from it just by touching it.
I always wonder, where they sell all these bikes.
There must be thousands of stolen bikes in the cities...
If it's a medium-large operation, "where" is "any other city". Throw them in a van, take them halfway across the country, make sure the guy you stole it from won't see it in a shop and identify it.
The other thing is that they often strip them down to parts and rebuild so that you won't recognise it if you see it listed.
In my country there are a ton of bikes "brought from Germany" that some people sell. Most likely stolen.
@@IceDani09 what country do you live in?
On Facebook marketplace, when you see an advert for a 'mountain bike', hardly any details, clearly the seller doesn't know the bike they're selling, and then you notice it's a young woman, selling a man's bike that's way too big for her.
@@samuelbullard8978 Romania 102%
Hey, GMBN Guy! My husband and I live in North Baltimore, MD, USA and are about to receive our very first e-bike (after months of research and deliberation, we decided on an Aventon Aventure Step Through model since we are retired guys getting up there in age w/ some arthritis setting in from years of reckless abandon during competitive sports in our much younger years). Your lock review and locking advisements are amazingly practical, logical, and delightfully entertaining. Thank you! I had a chuckle about the locking hack lifting the bike OVER the iron railing to secure on the ledge above the sidewalk below. Don't think we'll be doing that technique all that often if at all, although both of us are very strong chaps; our Aventon weighs in at just over 70 lbs. We are planning to secure this bike in ways and in locations much as you recommended so that its weight will be yet another deterrent to potential thievery. Again, thank you for a great video. Please thank your mate, Chris, for participating in the demonstrations. Hope you and the GMBN Team are well and safe. :-)
HELPFUL, enjoyable & fun to watch. Learned a lot. Liked & Subscribed. Thanks bro.
And then you watch channels like LockPickingLawyer or Bosnianbill and despair.
When you hang your bike on the far side of a railing and manage to face the lock away from you, you reduce the attack surface even further because a wannabe thief can only easily reach the shackle and cannot conveniently attack the weak point, which would be the lock or the mechanism.
Yup!even the highest rated locks last no more then 3-4 minutes with these guys and if they do last that long it's seen as a good lock!!!!
hah! Was about to type similar and then saw your comment. The Venn diagrams of UA-cam watching sure are odd!
yea not gonna keep anyone good enough at lockpicking away for long
fortunately, most bike thieves don't watch UA-cam!
@@better.better watching isn't enough so yea it's an unlikely attack as most people that skilled are locksmith's
Im amazed at how it happens as well in rich cities, in my home city it is very rough, you could have your bike stolen even while on it at top speed, and it is not that unusual to happen. Consider yourselves blessed
great advice,had many bikes stolen over the years
Great advice. Personally I only take an my old winter hack bike into Town, I’d never leave my good bikes shackled up in a City.
15:00 Don't underestimate Bolt Cutters, there are ones that will literally fit inside a pocket and are strong enough to cut a 6 mm chain.
That's why the best locks have at least 10mm thick links or shackles.
Ive seen an instance where someone has locked their bike using a perfectly solid D-lock to one of those metal hoop type places...and the thieves rather than focus on the lock cut through the metal hoop instead so worth keeping in mind.
Also...a lot of the metal hoops are bolted to the floor...thieves can undo those with an allen key or spanner whichever type of bolt it is used to fix it to the ground...I found this where I used to lock my expensive road bike at my local library in their very nice bike outhouse building..the hoops were bolted to the floor and I noticed the hoop was a bit wobbly, on checking the bolts someone had clearly been tampering with them as they were loose.
I'm not going to say how to do it. But it's not hard to cut steel pipe easily and quietly.
Good video. Well thought out. One other method thieves use is a Powder Actuated Tool to basically blast a lock apart. I love the helmet quick stop tip at the end.
Amazing video mate. I loved bikes all my life but only had cheap ones. My logic being, nobody is gonna steal a piece of crap. But they stole my peace of crap even despite a lock, so I got a rly good gravel bike, 2500 gbp, and now I can't sleep cause of paranoia of it being stolen. This video was very informative and I thank you for it, keep the good work up!
Oh man, the anxiety is no fun 😂 I had to get an ebike for my delivery job. Wanted to insure it for peace of mind, but haven't found an insurance that wants to work with delivery drivers.
Yeah, sadly that's the problem with expensive bikes. I'm afraid to ride mine until the insurance kicks in and I have a second lock.
The quick stop tips were amazing. Especially the upside down and hard gear.
I thought this was a common idea, all of my friends always do it.
@@matrixus5420 Well in my part of the world, we cannot leave anything unattended as its likely to get stolen so never had to keep my bike unlocked somewhere. Even to buy a bag of chips, I would lock my bike outside the shop and then go buy.
I work in a bikeshop, 1/4 of our clients are repurchase after stolen bike. We sell 80% e-bikes. It is not only e-bikes that get stolen, it is about same share I think.
I was in Naples years ago and went in for a coffee, I locked my old folding bike to a post with a combination lock and when I came back the seat and seat post and the lock were gone and the bike was still there.
I use the big chain locks when im out of town in my truck. Some of the medium sized ones will loop around a few bikes and the loop bolted into my truck bed! Its a nice piece of security when im out of town and might not be able to park my truck somewhere i can see if from a restaurant table or what not. I try not to take my bike into town and if i do i try to always lock it and try to stay within eyesight of it
Quick stop tip #4: get the chain out of the chainring, no one expects that
Hahaha I love this
Also, disconnect the brakes, if possible. You could also take the seat with you.
Some One the gears at the front as opposed to the cassette at the rear.
@@eltoro747 better to adjust the brakes so that they're fully engaged without any input, if possible
yes thats mine too here in spain we have chinese food stores with beverages and fresh drinks when i stop by to get myself a refresher y park the bike outside at the door and pull down the chain that give me 5 seconds of death for the thief
Every lock has its specific tool to break it. The best option is to use 2 different types, like a D or U and a decent cable. The thief will need to carry more tools and swap between them.
If you have a D lock and a cable don't you just have to open the one D lock?
@@paulvild The cable is easy to cut by the thief anyway but its just an extra deterant
What an amazing video very informative. Just learned so much thanks 👍
GMBN Tech.This is been so informative bowl because I'm getting a new electric bike and I'm 62 years old and I really want to know what to do to keep my bike safe so thank you so much for helping us all out here.
the grim truth: if you want to keep your bike, don't leave it unattended. Something as expensive as a your eBike is gonna be a target. - there are NO locks I would use on the full-suspension carbon fibre Canyon in the video - criminals are all about risk/reward. You're gonna put a $5k+ of temptation out there, somebody is going to take the chance.
@@keithbee2632 I genuinely feel like at this point the councils should be putting money towards paid bike shelters, just like a paid carpark. I would gladly pay £1 to leave my bike for over an hour and know it will be safe
Great tips and definitely makes you think about it. Chris throwing his teddies at the end 😀
What a great channel. Thank-you! I have the stubby D with a thick extension. Great idea locking the helmet to the pedal.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video mate! Thank you for the upload!
Thanks for the support Bob! Stay Safe 👍
"Are pretty much pick proof"
LockPickingLawyer: "Give me 2 seconds"
Oh come on, lets be real.... 15 sec....mostly for the explenations....
I'm a new bike rider in San Francisco. I found this SO useful. I appreciate you for sharing this. Thank you!
I was visiting a bike shop some years ago where they were building up a bike for a customer. It had a Ti frame disguised with powder coat in black!
I very rarely lock my bike up - used to at work but that was it. If it is at work, you can probably keep a heavy duty lock at their so not carrying around something that weighs a couple of kgs.
Great video, thank you! Bike accessory shopping incoming!
Thanks a lot for making this very informative video, I found it very helpful and it definitely gives me a good insight on where and what to lock my bike with now. Best lock review on UA-cam. Thanks a million and best wishes
Nice episode dudes! Could you do a review about safety screws to protect from a parts theft? Like protecting the seat post to be stolen by using standard tools...
Great stuff on the GMBN channel! You got me subbed. Greetings from Germany!
Thank you for sharing your expertise!
Excellent lock and locking situation review.
Very good video, though there is a few tips I learned about 40 years ago...yes, 40 years ago! And that was to remove the front wheel and either take it with you, OR, put it alongside the rear wheel and the seat tube then lock the front wheel, the rear wheel and the frame to whatever. On road bikes that's easy to do with most D locks.
Another tip I learned when I was commuting to college, simply buy a $50 (back then, today it may take $250) for a used bike and lock it up instead and leave the nice bike at home.
I had a friend who had a pretty nice bike, and he didn't want to ride a clunker to college, so he took a chain and beat the crap out of the frame and fork! So now the bike looked worthless...which is was after that, but he had nice bike he could ride to college on. That worked great on steel bikes back then, but today's carbon fiber, not so much!
Lastly get insurance if the bike you have is really nice, and or it may be a financial burden on you to replace it should it be stolen. Homeowners, or renters insurance doesn't cover for stuff like accidents, plus the deductibles could be quite high, so get a stand alone bicycle insurance, then you're covered for theft as well as accidents. Just make sure you understand the policy provisions and how they want the bike secured, and what you must do in case of theft in order for the claim to be approved.
So with the right lock, the right locking method, and insurance, yes you can lock up a $15,000 bike on the street, not that I would, but you can, of course I can't afford a $15,000 bike nor would I want to spend that much money on a bike even if I could afford it, so that's no problem for me.
Always remember to take your lock key ,when locking it up . Lol
Rode to tescos for quick in & out yesterday . Balls forgot my key..
Had to run home as the bike was loaded with vintage syncros .. was still there on returning thank the lord
wait... you didn't RIDE IT back home? You're telling us youleft it there and RAN home for the key????
@@better.better
Yeah left it there to run home to fetch lock key
which i removed last week to save some weight from my bunch of other lock keys ,
got about 5 locks for different areas of London lol
@@whollyspokes3645 why not just ride home and ride back. What's the point.
@@gtjack9
Don't worry you don't get it... Lol
@@whollyspokes3645 I interpreted "vintage synchros" as a valuable item. Are they really heavy or something?
This was a wonderful and informative video! Thanks much.
Very thorough review!! Thank you
I usually just shit on the saddle before I leave my bike alone.
Amazing Ingenuity
I use the Kryptonite Evolution Mini 9, with a separate cable lock. I think this lock is the best balance of security, weight and ease of use. The new Evolutions are now double locking.
Great info, thanks!
Fantastic video. Thanks.
I remember a classic story in "Dirt" many years ago thanking them for a review on the best lock to buy. The guy popped to his bike shop to pick one up. Walked out the shop someone was making off with his bike he chased and hit em with the D lock so it proved most useful.
We have CCTV at our main train station but it doesn't stop the thieves and the authories don't care.
The amount of bikes I see locked to a small post making it easy for the thieves just to lift up and off