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I use a ulock and a bike movement alarm. It's gone off about 10 times.all I ever see is guys running from my bike. Haha. This is for sure the best system.
Back in the day I rode my bike to work every day, had a basket with 6 different locks, this was required because each lock required a different tool/method to unlock/break. I never lost my bike, but neighboring "easier" bikes were stolen daily. Later in life in the suburbs, the transit put up some rental secure bike lockers. Can't wait for an embedded GPS / tag system.
Some are starting to do this. Bosch has a feature that essentially turns your display into a key for your bike. But I'd like to see more advancement here as well!
@@runemesa You'll still need a separate lock for the bike frame and wheels. It just makes it so the bike will not power on unless it's with your display.
@@FlyRidesUSA that's exactly the same point as the stupid virtually useless steering lock on all motorcycles, which pretty much hasn't changed since the 70s 🙄
the disable the motor, but that's about it. The way they work is subtle enough that the average meth head bike thief won't be deterred because they won't find out the effects of the system until they try to sell it.
I got one of those tail light alarms for 30 bucks and it took a week and half to prove itself to be worth more than its weight in gold. Also got a shrouded heavy chain lock with an alarm. Lock it in a high visibility area and you might even be lucky and the alarm will draw the attention of a fellow cyclist who's still emotional about their bike getting stolen.
Wsdcam 113dB Bike Alarm is about $15 which seems good if you can come up with a good shroud to keep it from being ripped off when it starts sounding off. It's neat that it has a remote control for activation and adjustable motion sensitivity.
7:48 the trick is not only to have GPS tracking, but also an RF transmitter which you can easily and reliably pinpoint that absolutely proves that your bike is in the property. With that evidence easily accessible from outside gives the cops enough to actually get a warrant and retrieve your bike.
Excellent video. I worked in a bike shop in Connecticut. One guy there lived in NYC for years. There was only one way everyday riders and messengers there secured their bike: Two locks. The first one usually a Kryptonite New York Standard, and the second some form of chain or tough cable lock. Though the folding locks you show would work too. And yes, lock it in plain sight. But two locks, especially with the NY Standard (which requires two full cuts with an angle grinder to get through, usually going through more than one battery, and more than one blade) the "foundation" lock. Then they have to deal with the second lock. This system is a time-consuming, pain in the ass for even skilled thieves to get past to steal your bike. They'll almost, almost always just move onto the next bike down the street. One other thing, if you buy a Kryptonite NY lock, don't forget to register the lock. Must do.
Your comment just might be the most valuable response I've read in weeks of research. I'll be receiving a $4500 ebike in a few weeks and I live in a west coast city where petty crime is exploding. I've considered a folding lock but now I'll definitely get the New York lock, plus a Kryptonite cable, plus the built-in AXA Cafe lock. Do you see any difference between the mini and the full size NY lock with regards to security?
@@kippywylie The Fughattaboutit U-Lock is the thickest lock they make with the very highest security rating, but it's a mini. It is hard to get it around many city bike racks and a frame+wheel. It would work great on just a wheel as a second lock. The Kryptonite New York -M-18WL is the same thickness and longer. The NY Standard isn't quite as thick, but it's large as well. All of these are made of the hardest re-enforced steel Kryptonite makes. All require special tools and advanced skills to pick. I forgot to mention in my previous post both the NY Fughataboutit U-Lock, M-18WL and NY Standard are so strong they are resistant to hydraulic cutters. They'll destroy the blades on the cutter before damaging the lock. The only other locks I'd consider are the Skunk Lock, because it's unique, and the Altor, which is meant to not be carried, but left locked somewhere you take your bike often (like a school campus, or grocery store). I'd still pair these with a second lock if you have an expensive bike (e-bike or otherwise). I'm curious about Tex-Lock 2.0, with it's woven sheath around a steel core. I like it's design because it requires more than one cut, and more than one tool to get through. The real key here is the more tools and more time a thief needs to defeat a lock system (thus multiple locks), the less likely they are to even bother trying. And so the bike is more secure. None of these locks are cheap, by the way. And both Kryptonite locks I listed are on the heavy side. But if you have an e-bike, this is the way to go. Those extra couple pounds are well worth the safety.
All locks you mentioned are easily cutable under a minute with a angle grinder, Plenty of video footage on UA-cam, and you forgot the Hiplok D1000 which takes 25 minutes 4 battery's 4 blades To cut through And would need 2 cuts so in fact 50 mins 8 blades 8 battery's Feel free to do your research
@@geegee8625 I didn't forget the Hiplock, and yes I'm aware of cutoff grinders after 35 years of construction work. But the Hiplock is back-ordered supply chain for several months and I need to ride.
@@PhilAndersonOutside So, I now have me $4500 Dutch ebike. I live in a mid-level crime town.... Not NYC, but not Walla Walla. In the past two weeks of my first rides I have been: Always lock in high traffic secure rack. 3 locks.... ABUS BordoX folding lock rated 15, a second 110db disc brake clamp-lock, a 3rd AXA Café lock. All this and if I'm really nervous I'll take the battery with me. Beyond that I've contacted USAA my homeowners and clarified replacement coverage
I dont lock my bike up any where unless i can see it and i have 3 locks i have a lock on the disc brake and kryptonite chain lock and kryptonite u lock and i will only lock it if i can see it. Three locks will slow them down enough that i can get out there and start stabbing.👍🏻😀
Yes I also use a combo of locks and I have a GPS that sends me sms when being moved it's really sensitive just moved a cm and it sends the SMS it's also comes with insurance it's the same subscription.. but I hope the combination of Lock's will make the thief's give up before even trying shit and I'm never gone more than 15 minutes maximum
At first I thought you leave your bike unlocked in you can't see it, but that made no sense. I think you're saying that you won't let the bike leave your grip unless you can see it and then you'll lock it...and stab people..
@Chelle Bright I won't say which brand here because that makes it easier for the thief to eliminate it.. because it's says how to on their stupid website
Found this video because I'm looking to buy a commuter. While watching I had a security idea. There's a pet GPS collar called Whistle. It's really designed for dogs, but I use it on my cat and it's brilliant! If you remove the collar part of this product and hide the GPS part, maybe under the seat, you will have a very reliable GPS tracker for your bike. You do need a subscription for it though. It's $8.25USD a month for a yearly plan or $8USD a month for a two year plan. Or you can just go month to month, but that costs $12.99USD. Just throwing an idea out there. As a side benefit, if you're into this type of thing, it would also be tracking your routes, distance traveled each day, and calories burned.
Unfortunately bike serial numbers aren't unique on many brands of bikes. Depending on the brand and where it was manufactured, a serial number could be repeated on several other similar bikes. A better option is to get an engraver and put your drivers license number on the frame, in the event it's lost or stolen. At which time a police officer could run your license number on the frame and reunite you with your bike, if they happen to cross paths with it.
Yes and do the same with the fork my fork has a serial number i Guess all expensive forks have.also you can scrape in your name take some clear spray paint over and conceal with a sticker..
The method that's worked for me for over 40 years is either bringing the bicycle inside with me or putting something on the bike to slow'm down (wheel locked to helmet, etc.) and sit within 15 feet of the eyesighted bicycle. Of course a couple of times simply knocking them out helped also. The idea is to move fast when and if.
@@cyyrious I'm 15 feet from the bicycle when I do that so, when I've seen them try to disconnect the helmet from the bicycle I moved quickly and knocked them out. Usually they don't see me coming so I can go back to where I was. When they come to (groggy usually) they just limp away.
Thank you! I really want an ebike but hesitate for the fear of it being stolen. Knowing now how to lock it and especially that it's possible to get insurance for it is reassuring.
Keeping a bike from thieves is a layered approach. One U-lock, then a disc lock with an alarm. The buy another movement alarm that goes under the seat. Three locks takes an extra minute to lock & unlock. If you have a big money bike get a Samsung gps tile. Good luck.
Agree. The more tools and more time a thief needs to defeat a locking system, the less likely they are to bother trying, and will just move onto the next bike down the street.
I use a U-lock that is at least 18mm thick like the Kryptonite fahgettaboudit, this lock cannot be removed with a bolt cutter, but the other most important thing is an alarm that can text you when the bike is disturbed so that you can get to it before anything happens, time is the most critical factor!
My car died at the beginning of the month, and I have been heavily considering getting an ebike. I work from home, do school from home, get anything I buy delivered to my home via Amazon, Walmart, or Safeway, and any other good/service (pharmacy, post office, other grocery stores, veterinarian, etc) are all within a 15 minute walk for me. The only time I need to travel further than a mile is when I need to get get my daughter, but even then, according to the GPS it's only a 50 minute bike ride to her mom's house, which is only 20 minutes more than what it takes in car. Thanks for all the tips on ebike security. I'm a complete novice at all this stuff, and this is great information. Also, very good information telling us about bike insurance. I never knew that was a thing.
My Kryponite New York Long Shackle u-lock, turned at a 30-degree angle to my e-bike, goes around the seat post and thru the rear wheel. I secure the front wheel with a heavy cable.
For daily riding where you work/shop your best defense is a beater bike. Ugly color with stickers. Two u-locks. When you go to Europe everyone has a beater bike for urban use - keep the upscale bikes for special use.
I have a radmission and I carry an abus folding lock on the frame and in my backpack I have an abus u lock with a cable and the bigass abus chain lock shown at the beginning of the video. It's lots of weight to haul around but it's also as close to peace of mind as I'll ever get while leaving my bike even for a short time. I just wanna have the toughest bike to get anywhere it happens to be, if there's something much easier right there then I'm hoping they'll go for that instead. It's like being chased by a bear, you don't have to be faster than the bear, you just have to be faster than the guy beside you!🤣
I have found, after 73 years of life, that if one keeps their machines functioning well, but looking like shit, thieves usually stay away....no chrome....flat black...and rust are your friends....this applies to cars motorcycles, bicycles, houses, and boats......and I suppose, girlfriends too.....
You could do what one dad did for his daughter. Just hide a AirTag in a really concealed section of the bike. Even though she took the battery off when she went into her school a thief still took her bike. With the AirTag, the father had it tracked down within minutes. When he showed up at the property and took the bike back. The thief was in awe how he had been found so quickly.
@@justin219 They were first marketed as a way to track down your lost luggage when flying. You could try looking for them at any place that sells luggage for traveling. Since they’re an Apple product you could check out any place that already sales iPhones and iPads. Try any super Walmart store or major store that sells iPhones and iPads. That might include a Best Buy store or Office Depot. Good way of looking for lost keys too. You could put them in a custom key fob and attach them to your keys. Good way of tracking down an expensive item you can’t really afford to lose.
There's a special place in hell for bike thieves! With my eBike, I always carry two locks, u-lock and my ABUS foldable lock. I assume thieves see two locks and move on to another bike with less security.
Yes. Used to be one and the reason why we did it was because it was too easy. Most of them were carried straight to a car. We didn't even use a van cause those raise suspicions late at night. It is about easiest and most expensive. Easiest are of course take-away bikes, the more expensive are such that you are prepared better and sometimes have scouted what tools you need. The best way to stop bike theft is to not have the best bike on the block. Keep it inside if it is expensive to you, keep it locked to a solid object, thru the frame at ALL times. No popping in a bodega, i have stolen a bike while a guy turned his back to use ATM, with his friends. I've carried bikes away in the open, sometimes just moving them one block, to pick them up later. Beef up your bike security just a bit and your chances of it getting stolen drop by multiples. Alarms are a good idea, if those were around 20 years ago, i don't think we would've even started doing it, like i said, we did it because it was stupidly easy.
I use the Kryptonite chain & New York Fuhgeddaboudit U-lock. But I also have a brake disc lock which has an alarm (for motorcycles) + a motion sensor alarm mounted to the frame.
Great bike theft prevention ideas. I've found that its always better to lock your bike in plain view (hopefully a high traffic location), rather than hiding it out of sight hoping nobody will discover it. Unless that place is a lockable storage room or closet. BTW, may I suggest numbering the ideas from most to least important next time. And don't forget, as with any video, presentation is everything. So the more cycling types the better. Police tend to ignore bike theft, because they see them solely as toys for kids. True cyclist know that some bikes cost more than many cars on the road.
@@victorstroganov8135 I'm sorry your bike was stolen. But that does NOT dismiss the fact that its safer in a high traffic space than it would be in a back alley. Yes it is possible for somebody to steal your bike out in the open (I've seen a few videos of this). But in those cases it would depend on the neighborhood. In any event, I also don't know what you consider a "busy place." Even busy places can have obstruction that block your bike from view. So I don't just mean busy, but out in the open where anybody walking or driving by can see it.
@@krane15 i guess, but what would you do if you clearly say a shady dude with huge scissors cutting a lock? I'm pretty sure no one will intervene, perhaps it's better to place it in a busy place but yet again one must consider that a busy place includes the most thieves on the look-out. if you put it in a side street like for residence, maybe it will be sufficiently hidden. all of this is speculation since i have no papers proving this. I guess the best place is indoors, indoors is much safer imo
There's so many videos in the U.K of bike thieves stealing in plain view of dozens of people who'd rather whip out their phones and cluck helplessly "Oh mah gawd! He's steeling that byke! Oh nuuuu!" while not a single one is heard talking to the police at least.
There’s also a chain ring that plugs into the cafe lock you can buy, for another step of security, that can be keyed alike to the battery, and another folding lock. Also, take the battery inside with you to prevent it being stolen as well.
A stolen bicycle will typically only be sold for 1/4 of it’s value because it’s usually a quick sale, it’s used and origin is sketchy. An electric bike without a battery even less because of it’s increased weight w/o an easy replacement at hand. It’s also 1/3 the cost of the bike
An Abus round lock on the chain / belt drive can stop the bike being ridden away, plus one on the front and rear spokes means doing a lot of damage to make it rideable again, cutting the spokes or cutting the locks ,not something most thieves want to spend time on using a cordless angle grinder in public. Three locks with the same key are relatively easy to carry, .....as well as the New York U lock in the video.
The town I live in (UK) has a nasty habit of putting cycle racks in dreadful, out-of-sight locations. Mind you, as a Brompton owner, I usually just carry it in with me wherever I go; I do have one of the Abus folding locks that I'll use if just nipping into a café and coming back out.
With all due respect this is why i love my folding escooter -it folds up and i throw it in the shopping cart (not exactly convenient -but 100% peace of mind is priceless
@@agenius5 - Please bag your fruits and vegetables. Shopping carts are dirty enough even without e-scooters in them. I always use a rolling shopping tote, I set it inside my shopping cart and fill it with everything I need. Another option is to place cardboard boxes (from the grocery store's recycling cart) and set them inside my shopping cart. Aldi, Costco, and Sam's Club have plenty of boxes set aside for their customers to use.
@@agenius5 All the people that have handled those foods have already contaminated everything & are dirty. Always wipe each item with bleach/water before putting in your home. Vinegar on fruits/veggies before using also for pesticides.
I tend to use a ulock and a heavier grade snowmobile cable. Whenever I lock it up I always try to find a location where I can keep eyes on the bike. In a fast food joint I’ll usually find a place to lock it up right next to a major window or door. And then I’ll try to get a place to set so I’m as close to the bike as I can get. A lot of foot traffic is going to be useful too, just to much people traffic for a thief to get really comfortable.
I know a super loud alarm might be worthless in a big city area, but maybe worth mentioning- I set mine at night because it would definitely wake me up. Might be enough to discourage a thief outside a grocery store in a small town like mine.
This is excellent information! It's always shocking how many bike thefts I see in our neighborhood chat page. Keep that serial number noted and lock your bike up!
Haven't heard the Smart Guy theme song in a while. 😂 Great video! I wasn't considering a folding bike lock but now that you've pointed out the difference in design/geometry for e-bikes, I'll be purchasing one for my new electric bike.
@@TaureanRuler Okay, it was absolutely, unknowingly, imperceptibly, new at the time of my original comment here (I see the first offers for the Litelock X1 in September of 2022, less than a year ago which makes it appearing after my comment). What can I say? I'm very sorry and I promise never to do this again...maybe. My oversight is understandable though, yes? At the time and in the least the claims for the X1 and X2 were unsubstantiated and hardly anyone ever heard of those locks.
Hexagonal cut chain links 12mm (naval style preferred) with lock, a folding lock, a wheel lock, a U lock, a brake lock, a motor that requires a code to be input to it like an iPhone, secure all quick releases including seat, removed battery and then park in the open near a camera. All or a combo should guarantee maybe 10 minutes security and a good enough level of piece of mind on a bike under 3.5K
Ha! I have 5 locks! Abus cafe, 2 Abus chains, abus folding lock and a cryptonite u lock and insurance. Also, I have the pin thingy’s for the wheels and seat.
@@christineritchie8014 They seem to be everywhere unfortunately! I always say the name of the game is just making it harder to steal than the one next to it!
If I have to spend 15-20 minutes putting on 5 locks and another 15-20 taking them back off, is spending 4 minutes in a cafe just for a cup of joe worth it??
@@martinreynolds9193 ▪ If I need my fix, then it would be for me . I don't leave the house without my sauce , I don't even care if I'm an hour late for work. They're gonna wait another 10-15 minutes for my coffee to be in my cup. 🟥
One per client. I was just looking at the site. You can get Pinhead locks for all kinds of different parts of your bike and one key will undo all the locks.
How does one cover bike and effectively lock it? I have a thick cable lock but want to go through frame to pole hence not allowing the cover to fully cover bike
I bought a cheap rechargeable wireless alarm for my escooter. It is ear-piercing & will intensify if it is not deactivated by the remote on my keyring. It would be a great deterrant for someone attempting theft in a busy parking lot. I suppose the only other way to stop it would be to smash it if they recognize it for what it is. I still lock it up to a lamppost with a U lock hanging thru underside of my cushyseat & the cable goes thru the rear wheel & around the collapsable front handle. It is easier to do this than I thought. When I ride, the u stays thru the seat spring, the cable thru my basketframe & meets in front of my seatpost where it gets locked. Seems to work well. Just got an ebike & haven't worked out how I am doing that but I think the alarm is a great deterrant. Too many ppl around here have trucks with big tools & I'm pretty sure if they were determined, it wouldn't take long to bust a lock ! That alarm is key !!
I use what I call the 2Chainz method, it's self explanatory. The seat is a quick release but it's permanently locked with a cable lock. My only issue is securing the battery, I hate it to take it off.
I use a lobster lock for the frame, front tire, and anchor. I have a kryptonite cable I wrap through the back tire, and then through the seat and connected to the lobster lock. I also have a bike alarm and I lock up closest to the front doors/windows as possible. My bike also lives in my bedroom when not in use.
I've read about someone who flew off their bike and ended up with a spinal injury bc they landed on the chain lock around their waist. They're now permanently in a wheelchair.
I like the idea of a hidden GPS so you can track your bike. Also, try to place the lock in a way that thieves can't get a good angle to shoot it open with one of those 22 caliber nail guns.
What's your take on a half-inch steel cable with a solid padlock as a secondary thing? I'm fine with some extra weight, so I'm thinking a solid u-lock as a primary, a cable through each tire and the frame and whatever the frame is locked to, and now that I've heard about it a café lock to finish it out. No guarantees I know, but that make it about as secure as it's possible to be?
I hade one bike for a week mid on the street unlocked after a bar trip.I did think it was as lost but so suprised that it was still mid on the walking street. I have so many bikes stolen so i don´t trust anything.
I have gone with an Abus folding alarm lock, a U lock, a cable lock and an additional, cheap, motion alarm. All except the U lock attach to the frame for carrying. I expect most thieves will be put off by amount to cut and alarms going off at the same time. Still vulnerable so considering data dot protection.
Good tips! One good reason to lock your bike in a public area as opposed to hiding it is that there are more potential witnesses in a public area, which can serve either as a deterrent or as more people who can potentially stop or report a theft in progress.
And w/everyone & their gramma carrying around cell-phone w/camera + surveillance cameras seemingly on every corner, all avenues of traffic SHOULD be covered enough as to discourage theft. If only society were that "Perfect!"
The Only way to be 100 percent sure that your bike will never be stolen is to take it with you everywhere you go, the Scumbag professional thieves will always find a way to steal your bike, no matter what type of lock you have secured to your bike, they will find a way to steal it, so remember don't give them the opportunity, it's yours, take it with you, period,
I mean, the same can be said for protecting your home or car from robbery, but the reality is that nothing in life is perfectly secure. Having a 48-lb bike attached to your hip at all times isn't exactly a realistic way to live.
I have a X class 52V Ariel Rider. The rear wheel takes A LOT of effort to get off and you need tools. Should I bother locking that up, or should I stick with U locking the frame and then chain locking the front wheel + the frame at the same time?
Hell, I'm planning to buy an electric cargo bike with 450 lbs capacity. 50 lbs of that will be bike/motorcycle locks. Thieves will have to defeat at least 4 completely different locks to steal my bike. Just like you shouldn't use the same password for everything, don't use multiple copies of the same model/style of lock. Thieves "shop" for bikes locked by locks they know how, and have the equipment to, unlock. If you increase the amount of equipment or knowledge they need to have, they will shop somewhere else.
Is there any agency or organization that tests bike locks? I know there are some for helmets. Or could you point me to some good tests of different locks, cables, etc?
I really enjoy this channel called Lockpicking Lawyer. Also most companies (I know ABUS and Krypnoite at least) do have real world testing done that you can usually find. I'll see if I can find anywhere else!
@@FlyRidesUSA The Lockpicking Lawyer actually opened the largest, strongest kryptonite lock on one of his videos. I was stunned because I was going to buy one of these locks. I don't think there's a single lock out there, no matter how monsterous it may look, that is theft proof.
@@Stringbean421 Yeah, but he used a special tool that he and his buddy designed and built. He can get into any lock with that tool. He's probably the only one that has one. I think a more valid lock-picking video would be to use tools that most thieves have, not something designed specifically to pick locks that no one else has.
i am planning to use this guys pin system to secure my e-bike wheels & an asus borda 6500x with alarm & a linka smart lock that alarms if anyone tries to steal the bike & it has gps on it. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?.
I usually ride with my girlfriend so I have two bikes to secure. I use some of the locks you recommend and I have a bike alarm that goes off with very little movement of the bike. The next step I have taken is using two walkie-talkies and leaving one in my bike trunk on voice activation so it transmits when the bike alarm goes off. You do need the check the range of the radio before relying on that. The final step I take is to take a bike cover so the bikes can not be seen. It is tough to get the cover off without setting off the alarm. I hope doing all this discourages any thief from trying to steal my bikes. With that said I know professional thieves could steal my bikes but most likely they are somewhere watching you secure your bike and they will go after your bike shortly after you park it and get out of sight. So another tool to use is to look around for people that may be watching you and if you think there may be someone then secure your bike and walk away and get out of sight and then find a place you can observe your bike.
Good stuff! Just got me my first E-Bike which needs some theft protection. I'm also thinking about filling the screws up with solder. Solder can be removed by heating when needed though it's bothersome..
All the bikes in the Netherlands do have this, how you call it, Cafelock. We call it a ringlock. Unfortunetely thiefs use blanc keys from Axa to open the Axa defender lock. The police is calling these keys " Polish keys" because it is mostly done by professional East European bike thiefs. A stolen bike is going the same day over the border to East Europe. What I do is never leave my bike on more than 5 minutes distance from me. I lock it with 3 locks, set the anti theft alarm on ( motion alarm) call to my old phone hidden in the bike bag and put the speaker from my phone on.
Great idea! Am I understanding that you leave your bike bag secured to the bike or is it like a permanent fixture? I 'spose this could also be used as sort of a GPS tracking system (within a couple of hundred feet) right?
GPS locks work with your phone but won't work most times , because when you're out of blu-tooth area your phone won't show any info of where your bike has been taken. Same applies to bike alarms that are supposed to warn you on your phone when someone is trying to steal your bike.
The only time I leave my e-bike (and trailer) unattended is when I am shopping. My strategy is to be obnoxiously visible and tedious. I lock right at or even in the entrance and to the most secure object I can get my locks around. A bike rack (obviously) if one is right near entrance, a sign post, or my favorite to merchandise displays (riding lawn mowers, grills/smokers, etc. under the assumption that security might have their eye on it. And multiple locks and alarms, the more the better. If I don't get frustrated unlocking my own bike then I haven't put enough locks on it! I try to make it simply too much effort to bother with. I'd rather spend twenty minutes locking/unlocking than lose my bike. And lastly, I also talk to any homeless people I see around, especially if I'm going to be shopping for any time. A few dollars up front and a five or ten tip on the way out is cheap security, and they get to work for the money. Do I trust them, no, not any more than anyone else but I don't trust them any less either. My experience doing this for years has been good, never had my bike so much as touched. Knock on wood.
I have a liberty trike for seniors and I want to get a locking system to put on my unit to keep it safe while at home and also out when I'm at a restaurant do you have any ideas for me? I am a 74-year-old senior who is moderately handicapped but I still get around quite a bit so I really need these locks to protect my trike!
I use I-tags for tracking. Front and rear hubs are locked with an alarm, motion sensor alarm on the frame, and my bike actually has a Fob like a car with a disc to unlock the bike BUT my bike also has its own alarm system built in and lasts but not least is my Diamond rating lock and chain. I believe that I’m covered
I'm 60 years old and just purchased my first e-bike, this was some of my thoughts as I assembled it. Putting the front tire on as I put the quick release in the lock position, I couldn't help wonder why there wasn't a way to lock the quick release to the fork. I also wondered why there wasn't a built in way to lock the handlebar like a steering wheel in a car. I know this is a bit off the question but anyway, just my thoughts.
Used to be a bikethief. Best ways to keep your bike safe are: don't buy expensive bike unless you can store it inside. If they don't know you have it, you won't lose it. The second best is to not be the most expensive bike in the row. Locking it while outside, it has to be thru the frame and rear tire, to a post anchored to the ground or a wall. Get an alarm. If those were around when i was doing it... there is no way we could've stolen so many and we probably would've not even started. Cheap pin tumbler and tubular locks can both be picked almost as fast as you can use a key to open them, your lock is not a stopper, it is a time waster. More expensive locks take more time to pick or break. About 90% of the bikes we stole were simply carried to a waiting car. Once i stole a bike while the owner had his back to me on ATM machine. It takes seconds if it is not tied to something solid and the stupidest thing is that if you are confident while doing it, no one will stop you. If you don't look like a thief and it seems that you know what you are doing, you look people in the eyes like anyone else, they go about their day "he seems to know what he is doing". So, do NOT leave your bike without locking it to solid object, not for 1 minute when you pop in to a store. The amount of shit you can get away with if you show confidence is incredible and it kind of scares me as it seems to work the same elsewhere too, like in politics but i digress.. Now that we have youtube, look around for videos of people using various bolt cutters to go thru locks and figure out a solution for you that works. Remember, no lock is 100% safe, all you can do is to extend the amount of time it takes to open it. The tools of the trade are strong and competent thieves are quite clever but also brutal. Your bike is worth money even if it is taken for parts. The way we ran our "shop" was to disassemble the bikes and use the best parts for the best frame and put the rest back together in semi-random order, what ever looked like a good combo and changed the original configuration enough to be a different bike. We did not bother with S/R numbers, the buyers were quite aware of the nature of the business, even when we did sell them in square market (there are open days when you can set up a store in the town squares for free, like a pop up bike store)..
Hi, Whats your opinion of the New York fahgettaboudit lock . And would you say mini or standard Size is better. Do you think it's any good as in how long it would take to cut off compared to others like the Hiplok DXF as iv been currently comparing a few locks. I'd really appreciate any advice. 🙏
Thank You Fly Rides. You are shipping me my Gazelle in May and I am quite nervous about the explosive increase in petty crime in my home town lately. Currently, my plan is: NY U-lock with Kryptonite cable looped through front wheel. AXA Cafe lock. I'm undecided on purchasing the additional AXA chain that pairs up with the Cafe lock.
For rear-hub drives, have found that U-bolt thru pedals + OnGuard/Rottweiler thru rear tire works for me. Waiting on horn/alarm. Worked too hard/paid too much $$$$$ for crackhead/chronic, etc., etc. to just come along & Snip, Snip w/out raising ANY kind of commotion! IMO....Too Much Is Never Enough/Never Give A Crook An Even Playing Field/No Such Thing As "Overkill!".....
Make sure you have insurance on your bike. There are bike theft gangs everywhere and they have the tools and organization to get through any lock. Basically if you have an expensive bike never leave it unattended. Ride it bring it home and svure it inside your house. Buy a cheap bike for grocery runs etc. The thieves want the good stuff for selling.
Don’t leave your bike locked up, if you want to keep it. This video is misleading. No lock will adequately secure it. Please don’t leave it locked up. Keep it with you at all times. Sadly, this is how it is.
My e-bikes, Ive got two cable locks one for the front and one for the back, plus 2 motion sensors disc brake alarms 1 for the front disc brake, 1 the back disc brake, and I have a motion sensor alarm connected to the seatpost, and I have GPS tracking hidden on the bike and alerts my phone if the bike is being tampered with.. If you touch the bike it will scream like hell. The three motion sensors are USB rechargeable.
My friend has a pitbull trained to just grab and hold anyone who tries to touch the bike except her. Not the cheapest bike lock she's ever owned but it damn well works every time.....plus when you hear the thief screaming for help it works just as good as an alarm.😂
@@markadolphus5094 Yeah I hope not ...that would be sad...usually he just growls if you reach toward the bike and so far that has been more than sufficient.
This got me thinking… if you could cover the bike with a lightweight cover with a cable through grommets and simple lock, after locking the bike with heavy duty locks, the putative thief would need to be considerably invested just to see what kind it is
Specialized has a new locking system on their EBikes Vado Como & Tero. It works with Mission Control locks the wheels disable the motor and has I think a gps tracking. I wonder if this is even sufficient
Just turn your brake adjustment on handle bars outwards so the pads clamp the brake on tight, two thieves have fallen of the bike whiles trying to nick good for quick shop pop ins only thou....
And the batteries being often the most expensive parts, they should have embedded alarm and geotracker, as well as internal switch that disable them in the absence of owner proximity device.
What has worked best for you when securing your bike?
Check out boomerang great gps tracker
I made a Kevlar bag for my bike. Cost 250 but can't be cut with a razor knife and I lock with a key lock. Also I hide a car GPS under the motor cover.
@@angiemcelroy5498 How did you do that? Would love to see a pic.
@@angiemcelroy5498 Your bike security sounds awesome I would appreciate more info if you don't mind ....
Thanks !
I tie a chain around my wheels and frame and bike rack.
*Great **Latest.Bike** . I upgraded the pedals, added fenders and installed a handle bar extension to raise them. Now it’s a pumped out E-Bike. I love it.*
I use a ulock and a bike movement alarm. It's gone off about 10 times.all I ever see is guys running from my bike. Haha. This is for sure the best system.
Back in the day I rode my bike to work every day, had a basket with 6 different locks, this was required because each lock required a different tool/method to unlock/break. I never lost my bike, but neighboring "easier" bikes were stolen daily. Later in life in the suburbs, the transit put up some rental secure bike lockers. Can't wait for an embedded GPS / tag system.
Except that any good lock is going to be heavy, and weight is meaningful. Although maybe not as critical on an e-bike.
@@krane15 those six locks and the metal basket weighed way more than my laptop backpack fully loaded with gear lol definitely a cost
most locks will let you mount it somewhere on the bike, plus you can use a rack (with containers or panniers) to hold your locks on@@krane15
What locks did you use, like, and prefer?
How many of those locks could be cut through using an angle grinder?
I'm surprised that e-bike companies haven't just imbedded internal locking systems into the bikes they make.
Some are starting to do this. Bosch has a feature that essentially turns your display into a key for your bike. But I'd like to see more advancement here as well!
@@FlyRidesUSA Does it make the wheels lock up/not able to move when the display is removed?
@@runemesa You'll still need a separate lock for the bike frame and wheels. It just makes it so the bike will not power on unless it's with your display.
@@FlyRidesUSA that's exactly the same point as the stupid virtually useless steering lock on all motorcycles, which pretty much hasn't changed since the 70s 🙄
the disable the motor, but that's about it. The way they work is subtle enough that the average meth head bike thief won't be deterred because they won't find out the effects of the system until they try to sell it.
I got one of those tail light alarms for 30 bucks and it took a week and half to prove itself to be worth more than its weight in gold. Also got a shrouded heavy chain lock with an alarm. Lock it in a high visibility area and you might even be lucky and the alarm will draw the attention of a fellow cyclist who's still emotional about their bike getting stolen.
what's the name/brand o the tail light alarm?
@@ked4864 G Keni Tail Light Alarm.
Wsdcam 113dB Bike Alarm is about $15 which seems good if you can come up with a good shroud to keep it from being ripped off when it starts sounding off. It's neat that it has a remote control for activation and adjustable motion sensitivity.
@@dubmob151 there like these metallic zip ties work pretty good
Thanks for that! Just bought it now myself. Getting my ebike next week!!!! 😁
7:48 the trick is not only to have GPS tracking, but also an RF transmitter which you can easily and reliably pinpoint that absolutely proves that your bike is in the property. With that evidence easily accessible from outside gives the cops enough to actually get a warrant and retrieve your bike.
Excellent video. I worked in a bike shop in Connecticut. One guy there lived in NYC for years. There was only one way everyday riders and messengers there secured their bike: Two locks. The first one usually a Kryptonite New York Standard, and the second some form of chain or tough cable lock. Though the folding locks you show would work too. And yes, lock it in plain sight. But two locks, especially with the NY Standard (which requires two full cuts with an angle grinder to get through, usually going through more than one battery, and more than one blade) the "foundation" lock. Then they have to deal with the second lock. This system is a time-consuming, pain in the ass for even skilled thieves to get past to steal your bike. They'll almost, almost always just move onto the next bike down the street.
One other thing, if you buy a Kryptonite NY lock, don't forget to register the lock. Must do.
Your comment just might be the most valuable response I've read in weeks of research. I'll be receiving a $4500 ebike in a few weeks and I live in a west coast city where petty crime is exploding. I've considered a folding lock but now I'll definitely get the New York lock, plus a Kryptonite cable, plus the built-in AXA Cafe lock. Do you see any difference between the mini and the full size NY lock with regards to security?
@@kippywylie The Fughattaboutit U-Lock is the thickest lock they make with the very highest security rating, but it's a mini. It is hard to get it around many city bike racks and a frame+wheel. It would work great on just a wheel as a second lock. The Kryptonite New York -M-18WL is the same thickness and longer. The NY Standard isn't quite as thick, but it's large as well. All of these are made of the hardest re-enforced steel Kryptonite makes. All require special tools and advanced skills to pick.
I forgot to mention in my previous post both the NY Fughataboutit U-Lock, M-18WL and NY Standard are so strong they are resistant to hydraulic cutters. They'll destroy the blades on the cutter before damaging the lock.
The only other locks I'd consider are the Skunk Lock, because it's unique, and the Altor, which is meant to not be carried, but left locked somewhere you take your bike often (like a school campus, or grocery store). I'd still pair these with a second lock if you have an expensive bike (e-bike or otherwise). I'm curious about Tex-Lock 2.0, with it's woven sheath around a steel core. I like it's design because it requires more than one cut, and more than one tool to get through.
The real key here is the more tools and more time a thief needs to defeat a lock system (thus multiple locks), the less likely they are to even bother trying. And so the bike is more secure.
None of these locks are cheap, by the way. And both Kryptonite locks I listed are on the heavy side. But if you have an e-bike, this is the way to go. Those extra couple pounds are well worth the safety.
All locks you mentioned are easily cutable under a minute with a angle grinder,
Plenty of video footage on UA-cam, and you forgot the Hiplok D1000 which takes 25 minutes 4 battery's
4 blades
To cut through
And would need 2 cuts so in fact 50 mins
8 blades
8 battery's
Feel free to do your research
@@geegee8625 I didn't forget the Hiplock, and yes I'm aware of cutoff grinders after 35 years of construction work. But the Hiplock is back-ordered supply chain for several months and I need to ride.
@@PhilAndersonOutside So, I now have me $4500 Dutch ebike. I live in a mid-level crime town.... Not NYC, but not Walla Walla. In the past two weeks of my first rides I have been: Always lock in high traffic secure rack. 3 locks.... ABUS BordoX folding lock rated 15, a second 110db disc brake clamp-lock, a 3rd AXA Café lock. All this and if I'm really nervous I'll take the battery with me. Beyond that I've contacted USAA my homeowners and clarified replacement coverage
I dont lock my bike up any where unless i can see it and i have 3 locks i have a lock on the disc brake and kryptonite chain lock and kryptonite u lock and i will only lock it if i can see it. Three locks will slow them down enough that i can get out there and start stabbing.👍🏻😀
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Yes I also use a combo of locks and I have a GPS that sends me sms when being moved it's really sensitive just moved a cm and it sends the SMS it's also comes with insurance it's the same subscription.. but I hope the combination of Lock's will make the thief's give up before even trying shit and I'm never gone more than 15 minutes maximum
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At first I thought you leave your bike unlocked in you can't see it, but that made no sense. I think you're saying that you won't let the bike leave your grip unless you can see it and then you'll lock it...and stab people..
@Chelle Bright I won't say which brand here because that makes it easier for the thief to eliminate it.. because it's says how to on their stupid website
Found this video because I'm looking to buy a commuter. While watching I had a security idea. There's a pet GPS collar called Whistle. It's really designed for dogs, but I use it on my cat and it's brilliant! If you remove the collar part of this product and hide the GPS part, maybe under the seat, you will have a very reliable GPS tracker for your bike. You do need a subscription for it though. It's $8.25USD a month for a yearly plan or $8USD a month for a two year plan. Or you can just go month to month, but that costs $12.99USD. Just throwing an idea out there. As a side benefit, if you're into this type of thing, it would also be tracking your routes, distance traveled each day, and calories burned.
ALWAYS take a note of the serial number of the bike to prove it is your bike if lost or stolen and found again
Definitely!
Unfortunately bike serial numbers aren't unique on many brands of bikes. Depending on the brand and where it was manufactured, a serial number could be repeated on several other similar bikes.
A better option is to get an engraver and put your drivers license number on the frame, in the event it's lost or stolen. At which time a police officer could run your license number on the frame and reunite you with your bike, if they happen to cross paths with it.
Yes and do the same with the fork my fork has a serial number i Guess all expensive forks have.also you can scrape in your name take some clear spray paint over and conceal with a sticker..
Most police departments will engrave a unique number for free check your local PD
@@ApertureJunkiesis that USA?
The method that's worked for me for over 40 years is either bringing the bicycle inside with me or putting something on the bike to slow'm down (wheel locked to helmet, etc.) and sit within 15 feet of the eyesighted bicycle. Of course a couple of times simply knocking them out helped also. The idea is to move fast when and if.
Wheel locked to helmet hmmmm ok
@@cyyrious I'm 15 feet from the bicycle when I do that so, when I've seen them try to disconnect the helmet from the bicycle I moved quickly and knocked them out. Usually they don't see me coming so I can go back to where I was. When they come to (groggy usually) they just limp away.
I don't always knock people out, but when I do I knock out bike thieves 😎👊
Sure you do, Rambo lol
Thank you! I really want an ebike but hesitate for the fear of it being stolen. Knowing now how to lock it and especially that it's possible to get insurance for it is reassuring.
"don't leave it in areas that you don't feel safe" Ok, I live in Paraguay I never gonna ride my bike again
I feel you pain.
@@RiderOftheNorth1968 Chuckled, then felt bad.
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Keeping a bike from thieves is a layered approach. One U-lock, then a disc lock with an alarm. The buy another movement alarm that goes under the seat. Three locks takes an extra minute to lock & unlock.
If you have a big money bike get a Samsung gps tile.
Good luck.
Solid advice!
Agree. The more tools and more time a thief needs to defeat a locking system, the less likely they are to bother trying, and will just move onto the next bike down the street.
In my fifth year of ebiking, and after 40 years of playing a violin, I just hit "acoustic bike" for the first time. A gasp of delight and thank you.
Hah! We're always trying to get it to catch on! Spread the good word!
I use a U-lock that is at least 18mm thick like the Kryptonite fahgettaboudit, this lock cannot be removed with a bolt cutter, but the other most important thing is an alarm that can text you when the bike is disturbed so that you can get to it before anything happens, time is the most critical factor!
I've been looking for one of these text based alarms. Any recommendations?
My car died at the beginning of the month, and I have been heavily considering getting an ebike. I work from home, do school from home, get anything I buy delivered to my home via Amazon, Walmart, or Safeway, and any other good/service (pharmacy, post office, other grocery stores, veterinarian, etc) are all within a 15 minute walk for me. The only time I need to travel further than a mile is when I need to get get my daughter, but even then, according to the GPS it's only a 50 minute bike ride to her mom's house, which is only 20 minutes more than what it takes in car.
Thanks for all the tips on ebike security. I'm a complete novice at all this stuff, and this is great information. Also, very good information telling us about bike insurance. I never knew that was a thing.
My Kryponite New York Long Shackle u-lock, turned at a 30-degree angle to my e-bike, goes around the seat post and thru the rear wheel. I secure the front wheel with a heavy cable.
For daily riding where you work/shop your best defense is a beater bike. Ugly color with stickers. Two u-locks.
When you go to Europe everyone has a beater bike for urban use - keep the upscale bikes for special use.
Very true! Desirable bikes generally do not fair well.
I have a radmission and I carry an abus folding lock on the frame and in my backpack I have an abus u lock with a cable and the bigass abus chain lock shown at the beginning of the video. It's lots of weight to haul around but it's also as close to peace of mind as I'll ever get while leaving my bike even for a short time. I just wanna have the toughest bike to get anywhere it happens to be, if there's something much easier right there then I'm hoping they'll go for that instead. It's like being chased by a bear, you don't have to be faster than the bear, you just have to be faster than the guy beside you!🤣
I have found, after 73 years of life, that if one keeps their machines functioning well, but looking like shit, thieves usually stay away....no chrome....flat black...and rust are your friends....this applies to cars motorcycles, bicycles, houses, and boats......and I suppose, girlfriends too.....
the girlfriend one got me bad🤣
Everything flat black
You still alive son?
That made me lol for real
@@jahseh3056 heh.....
You could do what one dad did for his daughter. Just hide a AirTag in a really concealed section of the bike. Even though she took the battery off when she went into her school a thief still took her bike. With the AirTag, the father had it tracked down within minutes. When he showed up at the property and took the bike back. The thief was in awe how he had been found so quickly.
where can I find one?
@@justin219 They were first marketed as a way to track down your lost luggage when flying. You could try looking for them at any place that sells luggage for traveling. Since they’re an Apple product you could check out any place that already sales iPhones and iPads. Try any super Walmart store or major store that sells iPhones and iPads. That might include a Best Buy store or Office Depot. Good way of looking for lost keys too. You could put them in a custom key fob and attach them to your keys. Good way of tracking down an expensive item you can’t really afford to lose.
Amazon sells them. They are Apple AirTags.
Any Android options for something like that?
Airtag requires Bluetooth. Once out of Bluetooth range, there will be no way to locate the bike.
There's a special place in hell for bike thieves! With my eBike, I always carry two locks, u-lock and my ABUS foldable lock. I assume thieves see two locks and move on to another bike with less security.
How do you secure battery?
They probably will if they are not out after a bike exactly like yours
@@GJ-dj4jx take it with you as soon as you get off your bike
Yes. Used to be one and the reason why we did it was because it was too easy. Most of them were carried straight to a car. We didn't even use a van cause those raise suspicions late at night. It is about easiest and most expensive. Easiest are of course take-away bikes, the more expensive are such that you are prepared better and sometimes have scouted what tools you need. The best way to stop bike theft is to not have the best bike on the block. Keep it inside if it is expensive to you, keep it locked to a solid object, thru the frame at ALL times. No popping in a bodega, i have stolen a bike while a guy turned his back to use ATM, with his friends. I've carried bikes away in the open, sometimes just moving them one block, to pick them up later.
Beef up your bike security just a bit and your chances of it getting stolen drop by multiples. Alarms are a good idea, if those were around 20 years ago, i don't think we would've even started doing it, like i said, we did it because it was stupidly easy.
@@squidcaps4308 Good on you to try and seek redemption. What country are you from?
I use the Kryptonite chain & New York Fuhgeddaboudit U-lock. But I also have a brake disc lock which has an alarm (for motorcycles) + a motion sensor alarm mounted to the frame.
thank you. I didn't even think about protecting the individual parts like the LCD display or even the wheels.
Great bike theft prevention ideas. I've found that its always better to lock your bike in plain view (hopefully a high traffic location), rather than hiding it out of sight hoping nobody will discover it. Unless that place is a lockable storage room or closet.
BTW, may I suggest numbering the ideas from most to least important next time. And don't forget, as with any video, presentation is everything. So the more cycling types the better. Police tend to ignore bike theft, because they see them solely as toys for kids. True cyclist know that some bikes cost more than many cars on the road.
nah bro mine got stolen today in a busy place.
@@victorstroganov8135 I'm sorry your bike was stolen. But that does NOT dismiss the fact that its safer in a high traffic space than it would be in a back alley. Yes it is possible for somebody to steal your bike out in the open (I've seen a few videos of this). But in those cases it would depend on the neighborhood.
In any event, I also don't know what you consider a "busy place." Even busy places can have obstruction that block your bike from view. So I don't just mean busy, but out in the open where anybody walking or driving by can see it.
@@krane15 i guess, but what would you do if you clearly say a shady dude with huge scissors cutting a lock? I'm pretty sure no one will intervene, perhaps it's better to place it in a busy place but yet again one must consider that a busy place includes the most thieves on the look-out. if you put it in a side street like for residence, maybe it will be sufficiently hidden. all of this is speculation since i have no papers proving this. I guess the best place is indoors, indoors is much safer imo
There's so many videos in the U.K of bike thieves stealing in plain view of dozens of people who'd rather whip out their phones and cluck helplessly "Oh mah gawd! He's steeling that byke! Oh nuuuu!" while not a single one is heard talking to the police at least.
There’s also a chain ring that plugs into the cafe lock you can buy, for another step of security, that can be keyed alike to the battery, and another folding lock. Also, take the battery inside with you to prevent it being stolen as well.
A stolen bicycle will typically only be sold for 1/4 of it’s value because it’s usually a quick sale, it’s used and origin is sketchy. An electric bike without a battery even less because of it’s increased weight w/o an easy replacement at hand. It’s also 1/3 the cost of the bike
An Abus round lock on the chain / belt drive can stop the bike being ridden away, plus one on the front and rear spokes means doing a lot of damage to make it rideable again, cutting the spokes or cutting the locks ,not something most thieves want to spend time on using a cordless angle grinder in public. Three locks with the same key are relatively easy to carry, .....as well as the New York U lock in the video.
The town I live in (UK) has a nasty habit of putting cycle racks in dreadful, out-of-sight locations. Mind you, as a Brompton owner, I usually just carry it in with me wherever I go; I do have one of the Abus folding locks that I'll use if just nipping into a café and coming back out.
With all due respect this is why i love my folding escooter -it folds up and i throw it in the shopping cart (not exactly convenient -but 100% peace of mind is priceless
You put your street filthy scooter in a shopping cart made to hold vegetables, fruits, food and drinks?
@@agenius5 That’s the problem with shopping carts. People put all kinds of stuff there and then you put ideally unpacked food there.
@@agenius5 - Please bag your fruits and vegetables. Shopping carts are dirty enough even without e-scooters in them. I always use a rolling shopping tote, I set it inside my shopping cart and fill it with everything I need. Another option is to place cardboard boxes (from the grocery store's recycling cart) and set them inside my shopping cart. Aldi, Costco, and Sam's Club have plenty of boxes set aside for their customers to use.
@@agenius5 All the people that have handled those foods have already contaminated everything & are dirty. Always wipe each item with bleach/water before putting in your home. Vinegar on fruits/veggies before using also for pesticides.
First sensible comment I've read in here besides my blow-up theives be gone girl hey, 😂 you leave stuff around people gonna take it hey...
I tend to use a ulock and a heavier grade snowmobile cable. Whenever I lock it up I always try to find a location where I can keep eyes on the bike. In a fast food joint I’ll usually find a place to lock it up right next to a major window or door. And then I’ll try to get a place to set so I’m as close to the bike as I can get. A lot of foot traffic is going to be useful too, just to much people traffic for a thief to get really comfortable.
Keep your bike with you as much as you can.
I know a super loud alarm might be worthless in a big city area, but maybe worth mentioning- I set mine at night because it would definitely wake me up. Might be enough to discourage a thief outside a grocery store in a small town like mine.
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Maybe have a speaker-alarm which blasts g@yP0rn sounds to Embarrass the theif into dropping the bike...🤔
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This is excellent information! It's always shocking how many bike thefts I see in our neighborhood chat page. Keep that serial number noted and lock your bike up!
Thanks Deanna! Can't be too careful with them that is for sure!
Also a good idea to note the serial number stamped onto your bicycle frame. So if it’s found or you see it in the street you can identify it.
Haven't heard the Smart Guy theme song in a while. 😂 Great video! I wasn't considering a folding bike lock but now that you've pointed out the difference in design/geometry for e-bikes, I'll be purchasing one for my new electric bike.
LoveToday8 glad we could help!
There are 3 locks that are grinder cut-off proof:
Hiplok D1000 for $385.
Altor SAF Lock at $299.
SkunkLock at $299.
Thank you
You're forgetting the litelock x series locks
@@TaureanRuler my post was a year ago and at that time Litelock X did not exist.
@@lazurm it was out a year ago
@@TaureanRuler Okay, it was absolutely, unknowingly, imperceptibly, new at the time of my original comment here (I see the first offers for the Litelock X1 in September of 2022, less than a year ago which makes it appearing after my comment). What can I say? I'm very sorry and I promise never to do this again...maybe. My oversight is understandable though, yes? At the time and in the least the claims for the X1 and X2 were unsubstantiated and hardly anyone ever heard of those locks.
If you have a front wheel quick release, take it off and lock it between the frame and rear wheel with your Abus lock
xFleazilla x thanks for this tip!!!
Hexagonal cut chain links 12mm (naval style preferred) with lock, a folding lock, a wheel lock, a U lock, a brake lock, a motor that requires a code to be input to it like an iPhone, secure all quick releases including seat, removed battery and then park in the open near a camera. All or a combo should guarantee maybe 10 minutes security and a good enough level of piece of mind on a bike under 3.5K
I feel a bit more secure with the motion sensor horn alarm that I installed. Plus I put an Apple AirTag on the bike as well.
When I used to ride a bicycle, it was insured by Smith and Wesson. Now my pickup truck is. Good video and good advice.
Ha! I have 5 locks! Abus cafe, 2 Abus chains, abus folding lock and a cryptonite u lock and insurance. Also, I have the pin thingy’s for the wheels and seat.
Nice! Now that's what I call a secure bike!
Fly Rides Electric Bikes I sure hope so. Bike thefts are extremely common here in the Bay Area.
@@christineritchie8014 They seem to be everywhere unfortunately! I always say the name of the game is just making it harder to steal than the one next to it!
If I have to spend 15-20 minutes putting on 5 locks and another 15-20 taking them back off, is spending 4 minutes in a cafe just for a cup of joe worth it??
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If I need my fix, then it would be for me . I don't leave the house without my sauce , I don't even care if I'm an hour late for work. They're gonna wait another 10-15 minutes for my coffee to be in my cup.
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Register your bike on Garage 529 and add sticker. Discourages thieves and will assist in reuniting you with your bike.
Does the Pinhead system have a key for each component or one for each client?
One per client. I was just looking at the site. You can get Pinhead locks for all kinds of different parts of your bike and one key will undo all the locks.
How does one cover bike and effectively lock it? I have a thick cable lock but want to go through frame to pole hence not allowing the cover to fully cover bike
I bought a cheap rechargeable wireless alarm for my escooter. It is ear-piercing & will intensify if it is not deactivated by the remote on my keyring. It would be a great deterrant for someone attempting theft in a busy parking lot. I suppose the only other way to stop it would be to smash it if they recognize it for what it is. I still lock it up to a lamppost with a U lock hanging thru underside of my cushyseat & the cable goes thru the rear wheel & around the collapsable front handle. It is easier to do this than I thought. When I ride, the u stays thru the seat spring, the cable thru my basketframe & meets in front of my seatpost where it gets locked. Seems to work well. Just got an ebike & haven't worked out how I am doing that but I think the alarm is a great deterrant. Too many ppl around here have trucks with big tools & I'm pretty sure if they were determined, it wouldn't take long to bust a lock ! That alarm is key !!
I use what I call the 2Chainz method, it's self explanatory. The seat is a quick release but it's permanently locked with a cable lock. My only issue is securing the battery, I hate it to take it off.
I have 2 disc locks for each wheel, Ulock and cable lock, it has a electric motor built in lock and alarm and I have a aftermarket alarm fitted too
I have saddle bags on my ebike so I just throw a chain lock in one. It's heavy but I'm on an ebike so it doesn't matter that much
I use a lobster lock for the frame, front tire, and anchor. I have a kryptonite cable I wrap through the back tire, and then through the seat and connected to the lobster lock. I also have a bike alarm and I lock up closest to the front doors/windows as possible. My bike also lives in my bedroom when not in use.
surprised you didn't mention chain locks, I personally use a "HipLok" that can be worn as a belt
I don't have a ton of experience with them to be honest. But a lot of people in the comments seem to love them! I'll have to give them a shot.
I've read about someone who flew off their bike and ended up with a spinal injury bc they landed on the chain lock around their waist. They're now permanently in a wheelchair.
I like the idea of a hidden GPS so you can track your bike. Also, try to place the lock in a way that thieves can't get a good angle to shoot it open with one of those 22 caliber nail guns.
What's your take on a half-inch steel cable with a solid padlock as a secondary thing? I'm fine with some extra weight, so I'm thinking a solid u-lock as a primary, a cable through each tire and the frame and whatever the frame is locked to, and now that I've heard about it a café lock to finish it out. No guarantees I know, but that make it about as secure as it's possible to be?
I hade one bike for a week mid on the street unlocked after a bar trip.I did think it was as lost but so suprised that it was still mid on the walking street. I have so many bikes stolen so i don´t trust anything.
I like discretely placed pad locks on the sprocket and wheels just so they can’t ride away with my bike. Worked on my motorcycle.
It's better on motorcycles because they are really hard to carry..I wouldn't trust that on any bike less than 50kilos
Good point
I have gone with an Abus folding alarm lock, a U lock, a cable lock and an additional, cheap, motion alarm. All except the U lock attach to the frame for carrying. I expect most thieves will be put off by amount to cut and alarms going off at the same time. Still vulnerable so
considering data dot protection.
I just got an idea. I'm pretty sure my bike would be safe hidden under a pile of unconscious bike thieves.
Good tips! One good reason to lock your bike in a public area as opposed to hiding it is that there are more potential witnesses in a public area, which can serve either as a deterrent or as more people who can potentially stop or report a theft in progress.
And w/everyone & their gramma carrying around cell-phone w/camera + surveillance cameras seemingly on every corner, all avenues of traffic SHOULD be covered enough as to discourage theft. If only society were that "Perfect!"
Yeah but 90% of the time they just watch and film they never save your stuff
The Only way to be 100 percent sure that your bike will never be stolen is to take it with you everywhere you go, the Scumbag professional thieves will always find a way to steal your bike, no matter what type of lock you have secured to your bike, they will find a way to steal it, so remember don't give them the opportunity, it's yours, take it with you, period,
I mean, the same can be said for protecting your home or car from robbery, but the reality is that nothing in life is perfectly secure. Having a 48-lb bike attached to your hip at all times isn't exactly a realistic way to live.
Excellent video!! I never realized there are so many different kinds of bike locks.
I have a X class 52V Ariel Rider. The rear wheel takes A LOT of effort to get off and you need tools. Should I bother locking that up, or should I stick with U locking the frame and then chain locking the front wheel + the frame at the same time?
I'm watching this after newly purchasing an ebike. Where I live, thieves are more than likely to get shot stealing a bike than it's worth it to them.
I use a U lock and I remove my front wheel. I either take the front, quick release, wheel with me or lock it to another pole.
Hell, I'm planning to buy an electric cargo bike with 450 lbs capacity. 50 lbs of that will be bike/motorcycle locks. Thieves will have to defeat at least 4 completely different locks to steal my bike.
Just like you shouldn't use the same password for everything, don't use multiple copies of the same model/style of lock. Thieves "shop" for bikes locked by locks they know how, and have the equipment to, unlock. If you increase the amount of equipment or knowledge they need to have, they will shop somewhere else.
Is there any agency or organization that tests bike locks? I know there are some for helmets. Or could you point me to some good tests of different locks, cables, etc?
I really enjoy this channel called Lockpicking Lawyer. Also most companies (I know ABUS and Krypnoite at least) do have real world testing done that you can usually find. I'll see if I can find anywhere else!
Sold Secure (in the UK), 3 levels of security; Bronze, Silver and Gold.
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The Lockpicking Lawyer actually opened the largest, strongest kryptonite lock on one of his videos. I was stunned because I was going to buy one of these locks. I don't think there's a single lock out there, no matter how monsterous it may look, that is theft proof.
@@Stringbean421 Yeah, but he used a special tool that he and his buddy designed and built. He can get into any lock with that tool. He's probably the only one that has one. I think a more valid lock-picking video would be to use tools that most thieves have, not something designed specifically to pick locks that no one else has.
@@soozannah4555 Didn't he say he sells those Tool created with Bosnian Bill in his online shop?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.. the best protection from theft is a good insurance policy!
And cost a lot more than just a lock.
I see a lot of different brands of disc brake locks with alarms on the market. Which one(s) are best for eBikes?
i am planning to use this guys pin system to secure my e-bike wheels & an asus borda 6500x with alarm & a linka smart lock that alarms if anyone tries to steal the bike & it has gps on it. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?.
Sounds like a pretty solid setup!
I usually ride with my girlfriend so I have two bikes to secure. I use some of the locks you recommend and I have a bike alarm that goes off with very little movement of the bike. The next step I have taken is using two walkie-talkies and leaving one in my bike trunk on voice activation so it transmits when the bike alarm goes off. You do need the check the range of the radio before relying on that. The final step I take is to take a bike cover so the bikes can not be seen. It is tough to get the cover off without setting off the alarm. I hope doing all this discourages any thief from trying to steal my bikes. With that said I know professional thieves could steal my bikes but most likely they are somewhere watching you secure your bike and they will go after your bike shortly after you park it and get out of sight. So another tool to use is to look around for people that may be watching you and if you think there may be someone then secure your bike and walk away and get out of sight and then find a place you can observe your bike.
Good stuff! Just got me my first E-Bike which needs some theft protection.
I'm also thinking about filling the screws up with solder.
Solder can be removed by heating when needed though it's bothersome..
what screws do you mean?
All the bikes in the Netherlands do have this, how you call it, Cafelock. We call it a ringlock. Unfortunetely thiefs use blanc keys from Axa to open the Axa defender lock. The police is calling these keys " Polish keys" because it is mostly done by professional East European bike thiefs. A stolen bike is going the same day over the border to East Europe. What I do is never leave my bike on more than 5 minutes distance from me. I lock it with 3 locks, set the anti theft alarm on ( motion alarm) call to my old phone hidden in the bike bag and put the speaker from my phone on.
Great idea! Am I understanding that you leave your bike bag secured to the bike or is it like a permanent fixture? I 'spose this could also be used as sort of a GPS tracking system (within a couple of hundred feet) right?
GPS locks work with your phone but won't work most times , because when you're out of blu-tooth area your phone won't show any info of where your bike has been taken. Same applies to bike alarms that are supposed to warn you on your phone when someone is trying to steal your bike.
The only time I leave my e-bike (and trailer) unattended is when I am shopping. My strategy is to be obnoxiously visible and tedious. I lock right at or even in the entrance and to the most secure object I can get my locks around. A bike rack (obviously) if one is right near entrance, a sign post, or my favorite to merchandise displays (riding lawn mowers, grills/smokers, etc. under the assumption that security might have their eye on it. And multiple locks and alarms, the more the better. If I don't get frustrated unlocking my own bike then I haven't put enough locks on it! I try to make it simply too much effort to bother with. I'd rather spend twenty minutes locking/unlocking than lose my bike. And lastly, I also talk to any homeless people I see around, especially if I'm going to be shopping for any time. A few dollars up front and a five or ten tip on the way out is cheap security, and they get to work for the money. Do I trust them, no, not any more than anyone else but I don't trust them any less either. My experience doing this for years has been good, never had my bike so much as touched. Knock on wood.
I have a liberty trike for seniors and I want to get a locking system to put on my unit to keep it safe while at home and also out when I'm at a restaurant do you have any ideas for me? I am a 74-year-old senior who is moderately handicapped but I still get around quite a bit so I really need these locks to protect my trike!
Remember when using a parking meter ensure it’s not too loose or they can lift the bike right over the top.
Light post, sign post or utility pole. Maybe even guy wires could work?!?
Yeah they even have bike alarms you can buy and there is a GPS out there but it’s pretty pricey it’s about 200 bucks
I use I-tags for tracking. Front and rear hubs are locked with an alarm, motion sensor alarm on the frame, and my bike actually has a Fob like a car with a disc to unlock the bike BUT my bike also has its own alarm system built in and lasts but not least is my Diamond rating lock and chain. I believe that I’m covered
Quick release pedals would be killer.
Patent it bro
This made me chuckle
I'm 60 years old and just purchased my first e-bike, this was some of my thoughts as I assembled it. Putting the front tire on as I put the quick release in the lock position, I couldn't help wonder why there wasn't a way to lock the quick release to the fork. I also wondered why there wasn't a built in way to lock the handlebar like a steering wheel in a car. I know this is a bit off the question but anyway, just my thoughts.
Used to be a bikethief. Best ways to keep your bike safe are: don't buy expensive bike unless you can store it inside. If they don't know you have it, you won't lose it. The second best is to not be the most expensive bike in the row. Locking it while outside, it has to be thru the frame and rear tire, to a post anchored to the ground or a wall. Get an alarm. If those were around when i was doing it... there is no way we could've stolen so many and we probably would've not even started. Cheap pin tumbler and tubular locks can both be picked almost as fast as you can use a key to open them, your lock is not a stopper, it is a time waster. More expensive locks take more time to pick or break.
About 90% of the bikes we stole were simply carried to a waiting car. Once i stole a bike while the owner had his back to me on ATM machine. It takes seconds if it is not tied to something solid and the stupidest thing is that if you are confident while doing it, no one will stop you. If you don't look like a thief and it seems that you know what you are doing, you look people in the eyes like anyone else, they go about their day "he seems to know what he is doing". So, do NOT leave your bike without locking it to solid object, not for 1 minute when you pop in to a store. The amount of shit you can get away with if you show confidence is incredible and it kind of scares me as it seems to work the same elsewhere too, like in politics but i digress..
Now that we have youtube, look around for videos of people using various bolt cutters to go thru locks and figure out a solution for you that works. Remember, no lock is 100% safe, all you can do is to extend the amount of time it takes to open it. The tools of the trade are strong and competent thieves are quite clever but also brutal. Your bike is worth money even if it is taken for parts. The way we ran our "shop" was to disassemble the bikes and use the best parts for the best frame and put the rest back together in semi-random order, what ever looked like a good combo and changed the original configuration enough to be a different bike. We did not bother with S/R numbers, the buyers were quite aware of the nature of the business, even when we did sell them in square market (there are open days when you can set up a store in the town squares for free, like a pop up bike store)..
Hi,
Whats your opinion of the New York fahgettaboudit lock . And would you say mini or standard Size is better.
Do you think it's any good as in how long it would take to cut off compared to others like the Hiplok DXF as iv been currently comparing a few locks.
I'd really appreciate any advice. 🙏
Thank you for sharing this valuable info when it must be tough to think back on it
Would you have stolen a bike with 3 d locks + 3 chain locks ?because that's what I currently have
@@geegee8625 Nope..
Where to buy this quick release alarm you are recommend
Thank You Fly Rides. You are shipping me my Gazelle in May and I am quite nervous about the explosive increase in petty crime in my home town lately. Currently, my plan is: NY U-lock with Kryptonite cable looped through front wheel. AXA Cafe lock. I'm undecided on purchasing the additional AXA chain that pairs up with the Cafe lock.
For rear-hub drives, have found that U-bolt thru pedals + OnGuard/Rottweiler thru rear tire works for me. Waiting on horn/alarm. Worked too hard/paid too much $$$$$ for crackhead/chronic, etc., etc. to just come along & Snip, Snip w/out raising ANY kind of commotion! IMO....Too Much Is Never Enough/Never Give A Crook An Even Playing Field/No Such Thing As "Overkill!".....
Make sure you have insurance on your bike. There are bike theft gangs everywhere and they have the tools and organization to get through any lock. Basically if you have an expensive bike never leave it unattended. Ride it bring it home and svure it inside your house. Buy a cheap bike for grocery runs etc. The thieves want the good stuff for selling.
You seem to be talking from bad experience. ?
Thank you for this I'm buying my first E bike and I live in LA need I say more I'm learning so much from you..
bikes should come with that standard
Don’t leave your bike locked up, if you want to keep it. This video is misleading. No lock will adequately secure it. Please don’t leave it locked up. Keep it with you at all times. Sadly, this is how it is.
Check out the Linka LEO 2 Pro. Decent Cafe lock with an external chain. It has an alarm and tracking.
Suggest you Try to cable lock your helmet over the display / handlebars to help keep it out of sight.
I have a U lock but it also came with a cable. I have no idea the folding locks were like that. Nice that Lectric offers one.
Just ordered a couple electric bikes with a couple grand in add-ons… this video taught me more than I already knew and was very helpful.
thank you!!
My e-bikes, Ive got two cable locks one for the front and one for the back, plus 2 motion sensors disc brake alarms 1 for the front disc brake, 1 the back disc brake, and I have a motion sensor alarm connected to the seatpost, and I have GPS tracking hidden on the bike and alerts my phone if the bike is being tampered with.. If you touch the bike it will scream like hell. The three motion sensors are USB rechargeable.
My friend has a pitbull trained to just grab and hold anyone who tries to touch the bike except her. Not the cheapest bike lock she's ever owned but it damn well works every time.....plus when you hear the thief screaming for help it works just as good as an alarm.😂
The best protection I think so far mentioned
Kind of hard mounting one on a bike tho.
Poor dog will get put down for biting 🤔 probably be goin' through a lot of pets..
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Yeah I hope not ...that would be sad...usually he just growls if you reach toward the bike and so far that has been more than sufficient.
This got me thinking… if you could cover the bike with a lightweight cover with a cable through grommets and simple lock, after locking the bike with heavy duty locks, the putative thief would need to be considerably invested just to see what kind it is
Great info! Dog thieves are the #1 worst people on earth. Just ordered $2000 fat tire ebike, very happy to watch your video! Thanks!
Specialized has a new locking system on their EBikes Vado Como & Tero. It works with Mission Control locks the wheels disable the motor and has I think a gps tracking. I wonder if this is even sufficient
Just turn your brake adjustment on handle bars outwards so the pads clamp the brake on tight, two thieves have fallen of the bike whiles trying to nick good for quick shop pop ins only thou....
They should make an alarm for bikes that notify your phone. Do they have those?? I'm new into all this looking to secure my bike.
And the batteries being often the most expensive parts, they should have embedded alarm and geotracker, as well as internal switch that disable them in the absence of owner proximity device.
With some of the electric bikes don’t you want to pull the battery if they have quick release?