Testing The World's Best Bike Locks
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- 8 bike locks from Kryptonite, Squire, Onguard and Hiplok tested to destruction.
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We had a pre-production Squire D16 MAX which is more expensive than the standard D16 at £289.99 - almost the same price as the Hiplok DX1000.
Bought 2 of D16 because of this video and it's not the same lock...
You should try to grind the Squire Stronghold D16 that was around £130
I wonder how much time it would take to cut the base that the bike is locked to ???
I picked up a D16 today too but this seems like cheap plastic rubbish. Can't find a D16 Max anywhere!
I agree, my plastic even came broken.. @@SidLuther
“I don’t even want the bike anymore” 🤣🤣🤣
Why not? Cheap. Easy to maintain. Don't need garage. Just why?
Eh???
Great test guys. I also hear that in some places that they pre-cut a section out of the rack, then cover the rack in stickers and graffiti so you cant see it and use it as normal. Then all they have to do is slip your bike off the rack so keep an eye out for that everyone.
Yeah also if the rack is not solid to the ground but have movement pushing it by hand then stay away of that parking spot
damn bro. ey thanks for the tip.
Man never thought about that. Ill definitely need to check stickers for gaps underneath.
For the prices of the higher end locks I'd personally get a cheap single speed commuter if my only option is to lock it outside wherever I'm going. Even with the £300 lock there's nothing stopping them from just cutting through the weak rack in lots of cases
Someone once told me the best way to make sure someone doesn't steal your bike is to make it ugly AF (cover it in stickers) and park it next to a pretty road bike. Yours will become invisible.
If you have an expensive drivetrain, they'll just cut through the bike frame and part it out. If you ride a bike with cheap parts (e.g. 3x8 drivetrain) and put a second u-lock through the front wheel, it's probably going to be more trouble than it's worth to steal.
That said, I feel like people are quick to "not my problem" and ignore someone grinding through a bike lock, because they'll either figure it's not their problem or that clearly the blatant use of power tools means they're not a thief, they're retrieving a bike or something.
If said thief is sawing through the bike rack though? Now that's _clearly_ not supposed to be happening, plus whoever owns said bike rack (a business or the city) is going to care about that very quickly.
Of course, sawing the bike off is always the third option, but most thieves don't want a broken bike, unless there's a lot of expensive components on it and they're willing to 'settle' for just the components...
@@Saftkeur but how much used components are worth, even if expensive when new? Is there a well developed market for these?
@@borisgurevich5504 I have no idea tbh. I imagine they're still valuable, and the sort of thief willing to chop stuff up in public probably doesn't care so long as they get a bit of cash out of it. Though I also kinda doubt most thieves are paying attention to anything besides "that bike looks expensive".
This test sadly is not valid even though you guys put lots of effort in this, but a diamond disc is not suitable for cutting steel. Diamond discs are made to cut rocks or softer metals that dont contain any carbon, as the diamonds degrade very quickly as they simply burn away beacause they consist of carbon. Thats probably the reason why the first lock was down so quickly an the other ones took several minutes and became very hot. You should really consider repeating this test with a disc that is made for cutting steel.
Some locks has ceramic additives that eat up metal cutting discs, and some has plastic or aluminum coatings that melts, gunk ups blade and jams it. I guess it's the case with those angle grinder resistant locks they testes, so diamond disc is only way to go.
I thought the same thing. I haven’t found a metal yet I couldn’t cut through quickly with a Walter zip disc.
Also, sure it looks better but, you don't need to use a real bike for the cutting test, you re throwing a lot of metallic particles to the bike!
@@bruceh5933 So what lock took the longest?
@@limmoblack I haven't tried cutting locks, but I was cutting 1 1/8" steel studs a couple weeks ago and it didn't take long at all.
i may be wrong... but ive used alot of abracs porcelain cutting discs in the past and that disc looks like an abracs porcelain disc. a standard inox cutting disc would probably do the job faster.
EDIT: checked toolstation its a general purpose abracs blade. not rated for metals at all.
These locks have finishes on them that wear down metal cutting disks. Diamond ceramic cutters work better on them.
I'm fairly sure the lock picking lawyer has reviewed squire locks a fair bit.
They hold up very favourably compared to other lock manufacturers.
Precisely zero bike thieves are going to pick your lock 😂😂😂 not while cordless angle grinders exist.
@@richiejames928unless the LPL is the bike thief
It may happen BUT it is extremely rare for any bike thieves to pick a lock instead of going straight for the brute force option instead.
@@tconnolly9820except that we have just seen a lock that cannot be cut with a regular angle grinder
@@borisgurevich5504 I wouldn't agree with that. You saw an inexperienced person using a mini battery powered angle grinder and not using the ideal cutting disc for the task.
Straight off, using that same equipment I would have been walking away with that bike in less than two minutes.
I'd just cut the f#&king bike rack and that bike is mine.
It's at the stage now where in most cases it is easier to cut the bike rack than even a Gold rated lock. Take that bike back to my premises and I will make short work of those two "indestructible" locks in two minutes or less with a mains powered industrial cutter.
When you are preventing the local scumbag kids and "amateur" thieves they are very good.
Up against someone organised and experienced with powerful battery powered industrial cutters, they're an inconvenience.
The problem with the super strong locks is they are stronger then all the stuff you can attach it to.
Thieves will just cut through the bike stand, or whatever you put the lock around.
IMO they are not worth the extra bulk/cost over a more convenient lock for that reason.
Not a lamp post! Rather dodgy cutting that down!
and cutting through the fence or pole that the bike is locked to, is the exact reason why you lock the bike to what ever in a way that it can't be used in any meaningful way even if it's stolen.
also the placement of the lock make it easier or harder to cut.
7:00 Cutting Disc identified: TopsTools TTDS125 - 5", 125mm Segmented Diamond Cutting Disc
Manufacturer Product Details: "These diamond cutting discs are designed to be used wet or dry. They can be used to cut concrete, masonry, stone, asphalt, marble, granite and most general building materials."
Specifications:
Brand: TopsTools
Product Type: Circular Saw Blades, Diamond Saw Blades
Size: 125mm
Bore Size: 20mm, 22.23mm
Suitable For Cutting: Asphalt, Concrete, Granite, Hard Metal, Hard Wood, Marble, Masonry, Metal, Soft Metal, Soft Wood, Stone, Wood
rubber around the lock just serves to protect the bike but it also tents to gunk up the grinder disc reducing its cutting efficiency.
I don’t want to be a Karen lads but you’re using the wrong disk on your cutter… those disks are for tiles
Thing is it depends on what they steal in the first place grinder wise.
Yeah It isn't for Metal
Standard metal cutting discs get eaten up by the anti angle grinder locks, so you have to use diamond discs instead. We've done this a few times now ;)
I use one of those diamond metal blades, they cut pretty well
Yup , I get all my free e bikes using a DeWalt and diamond discs@@amarya86
Would be nice if you can show how to carry those locks on bike. i mean place where to put it if you riding and didn't have bag.
One at home, one at work. Then keep a lightweight lock with you for quick stops elsewhere.
I’ve found that putting the mount on the top tube so that the lock sits parallel to the frame and out of the way of your knees works well.
A lot of D locks come with a mount that allows you to store them inside the main triangle - little holder thing bolts onto the seat tube and you slot the lock in and out of there.
Most of Hiplock's products can, as the name suggests, be worn almost like a belt around the rider's hips.
When I used to need to, I carried a D lock in my rucksack along with my change of shoes and other work-related things. These days I have secure cycle storage at my workplace so I just leave a small lock in the cycle storage.
As well as all the other suggestions, Temple cycles makes a holster for d-locks that sits on the back of your saddle, sort of like a saddle bag
Mine I mount to the top tube so it just sits inside the frame. That’s what I do with my Kryptonite walks. Mine actually came with a pretty basic but effective little mounting strap for that purpose.
Thank you! Seeing the improvement from Kryptonite was good to see. I would have liked to see the Onguard Brute tested as well.Though, I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for Squire across the pond
Love the grinder proof locks to be released in a smaller mini lock
Love the energy in this video
Great video! Would be interested to see the LITELOCK X1 and X3 too.
Litelok x3 and Litelok Moto are the best you can get. Three batteries and up to 10 disks put them streets above all locks tested here.
I wonder how long it would take to cut through the bar it's locked to or the bolts that secures it to the ground.
yeah. That bike stand isn't made of scaffold steel. One cut and bend it. Hopefully the disk would be dead before they thought of that 😀
@@johncoxy1 Although stealing bikes IMHO is stupid to begin with, I would never count on a thief being dumber than I am when it comes to finding a way to get my bike. The best way I know to keep mine is to never let it out of my sight.
a true thief revealing himself
I've got that Onguard lock, because it's the cheapest one my insurance company will accept. Glad to see it did quite well!
I always use 2 U-locks, on the theory that having to cut through 2 seperate locks is going to be enough of a faf to make a prospective thief just shrug and look for easier targets.
Worked pretty well for me so far.
Same. It’s mostly about DETERRING
I have 2 u locks and 2 chain locks (gold, diamond and alarm) if they still manage to steal dat idk what to say man 😅😅
What city
@@blazeraz7666 i have 2 diamond u locks, a chain, bike cover, alarm and insurance. lol i live in brooklyn and my e bike stays outside. no problems so far after 3 years of doing this
Depends on the bike and city bro
Amazed how well the kryptonite mini holds up. I only have it for shopping or when the bike stands at a relatively secure location. Thought it was much flimsier.
Definitely cutting through the bar the bike is attached to with those anti-grinder models. But that might still be enough to let a theif say, "You know what... that other bike has a much easier lock to attack. I think I'll nick that one."
Yeah I have the Hiplok I can trust the lock but have seen places where the bike rack has been cut instead.
Be interested in seeing how long it takes the LawPickingLawyer to open these locks.
he would be done before they described the locks.
"...3... 2...."
"Done!"
😂
Kinda pointless though, no bike thief is going to pick your lock.
Easy mode for LPL, and luckily most thieves are too dim to have the skills to do so even if they had the tools.
I have watched several videos testing bike locks. No one has actually done the tests under ALL of the following conditions. 1. Use portable grinder popular with thieves. 2. Include in the tests the time to change out blades and batteries on the portable grinders. In real life that time would add to cutting the locks. 3. Locking the bike locks in a more realistic scenario wrapping the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. 4. Additional second or third lock wrapping around front wheel, frame and bike rack. 5. Steps to take if you encounter thief while in progress.
What are the most popular thief grinders?
How long would it take to cut through the bike rack? Or, dare I say it the frame. I've seen a cut Bianchi frame dumped in a hedge stripped of all its componentry goodness. Ideally these locks need a vibration sensor which sends a text to the owner so you can go back to your bike and kick shit out of the bike thief, sorry I meant "Take appropriate action" ... Keep em peeled... Don't have nightmares.... Etc...
great and amusing video! thanks.
The @CityofLondonPolice UA-cam channel has a video ‘How secure is your bicycle lock’. It's 8 years old now, but still very informative. Somehow they can get through the strongest ‘ordinary’ (i.e. not labeled as an anti-angle grinder one) D-locks in a little over a minute. But maybe their ‘thief’ has more experience than you do, or the locks have really got a lot better in a decade.
Francis and Jimmy in goggles and ear protection and they leave Nic in a pair of sunglasses and a beanie 😂
Important work is being done here chaps 👏
I had a look for the squire D16 Max and it's not available just yet... Just the D16 which is available but not the anti angle grinder version. I also checked direct with squire and they said yes coming soon. You must have had pre production one sent to you.
There ya go bois!! That’s a thumbnail. No more prayer hands 🙏🏽 lol
For the average Joe, buying a dirt cheap bike makes more sense than investing on a heavy really expensive lock
Thanks for the great video! I can't find the d16 Max anywhere here in the LA area, not even online, is there any link you can send to help buy that one in the review?
Also, have you tried the kryptonite new York edition d locks?
Thx, very useful and nicely shot - as always - , like your style and humor a lot.
Q: could you guys make a similar test about bicycle (anti theft) tracking devices? It's so difficult to choose the right product (if there's any). Thx a lot.
few notes:
1 Try different tools, like hydraulic bolt cutter - its quite compact, silent, fast and sure there will be list of the locks that cuttable with this tool (like orange kryptonite - cuttable, but not yellow one as far as I know)
2 - Try to cut base of the lock if its "anti angle grinder"
3 - If you cut orange kryptonite at the top of the lock it could be enough flex to steal the bike if it locked for seatstay only (kryptonite is small - ofter you have to lock it for thinnest or "most outer" tubes)
4 - Separate locks by "carryable" and "not carryable"
So you guys just stupidly ruined few locks without any analysis and classification. But you still can do it.
Have only seen the D16 max today(a month later) on the official squire website(both locks are listed), the £130 lock looks the same in pictures(don't know about the size being the same or different), can see what happened if the max has no information anywhere. Great video as always..great laugh too with the banter!!
Pragmasis chain and squire lock is all you need 👌
Nice video. It was a great review .
Have heard of people using a mini car jack to pop D-locks. Would be interesting to see if those two grinder proof ones can stand up to that
Excellent video
I wanna see you guys try some of the different Kryptonite chain locks and also use different types of blades.
leave the lock in place where you often go ? what about weather conditions and how would it affect the lock after some time ? especially in wet UK
and isnt it faster to cut the bike stand rather the lock ?
Hey guys, have you got the weights for each lock? be good to see weight vs time (unless leaving it at the destination). Had a bike nicked before where they actually cut the bike stand rather than the lock
Thank you 3xs over! This kind of information is not easy to find!
What brand is that neck gimbal?
Great grinding wheel 🤓
is the rubber simply there so you don't whack metal against your bike and chip away at the paint (like on my mate's bike)?
So for the Hiplok I just have to undo the four bolds of the stand? Which is probably silent and easy. I can figure out the rest at home :D
try the chemical skunklock for some fun. then try the squire d16max again followed by the litelok x3 followed by the hiplok x1000 followed finally by the carbon skunklock.
You should have affiliate links for the locks that did well too! Big plus for anyone with a good bike who wants to see it again.
If someone is willing to spend 20 minutes grinding through the lock on my commuter, they can just have it, they're clearly more desperate than me.
Could you see how long it takes to cut through various bike stands?
I’m conscious that with some intelligence I would cut the bike stand and then take the bike&lock, take it ‘home’ to then break the lock…
Also whether some are easier to Pick or Freeze?
A D-lock with some sort of coating or chemical within that produces lots of red smoke when attacked with an angle grinder would be great. Would stain the attackers clothes and essentially tag them. Also add more attention (on top of the angle grinder noise 😂)
Pros mostly use pipe cutters if you lock your bike on one of these round bike stands. Silent and way faster.
solution: square pipe
@@edmundas919 the solution to your solution is that the frame gets cut. No one wants to sell a complete bike with a identification number on the bottom bracket. A complete groupset and or wheels in fairly good condition however change hands fast and aren`t traceable.
@@georgzwiebel9585 It's not a problem in europe. Lack of unified register and open borders makes it easy to move bicycles abroad and sell them. Only cycling enthusiasts care about bike history, regular person cares only about low price.
@@edmundas919 Most high end bikes (everything from 105, deore etc. upwards in terms of group sets) that get stolen are getting dissasembled and the parts except the frame get sold in the same country on second hand website as used parts. why should a bike thief group in for example germany transport the bike to poland, czech republic or austria when they get a higher price for the stolen groupsets, wheels and parts in the original country?
That angle grinder could cut thru the bike rack pretty fast. Cut the rack not the lock?
Unless I am mistaken, it looks like you have used a diamond blade for cutting masonry. A metal cutting blade would get thorough quicker.
Awesome video! Any chance you know a locksmith to try and see how long it takes to pick them lock?
Would be curious to see a comparison in cutting speed between 'standard' carbide cutting disc vs the diamond coated blade on the lock material
so we do have locks that do work , thank you
I would have liked to have seen how the ABUS Granit™ Super Extreme 2500 lock would have performed.
Maybe use a metal cutting blade in the angle grinder? Looks like you’re using a masonry blade?
I'm happy they used diamond blade, because some locks have ceramic additives that eat up metal cutting blades when cutting and other channels who tested them came to conclusion that lock is uncuttable when diamond disc would have no problems with it. Of course I'd be happier if they tried with both type of blades.
Diamond cutting wheel is probably the worst disc to use, a 3M 125X1.0mm Cubitron 3 would rip the arse out of them locks in seconds!
manupulating results and promote brand thats why they using concrete disc :) its a joke.
My guess is that mister Lock Picking Lawyer will deal with all of those 8 locks in under 5 minutes - very silently.
I used my old d_Lock for years on my commuter shopping bike and a cable lock for the wheels. Everything was great until the advent of the electric grinder
I need a bike check from Nick, looks great with the knobby tires on it
Ive got a hiplok gold rated chain, not much similar out there, super convenient. Can you test it please?
First off, nice video guys. The lock is only as strong as what it's attached to. Some guy used a good lock and attached it to a tree. Well, the thieves cut the tree and took the bike.
Great review. Can you please test locks by litelock and seatylock.
Sunklock and OnGaurd has come out with angle-grinder resistant locks also (Sunklock Carbon and OnGaurd RockSolid). You should compare those next vs the Litelocks and Hiplocks. Also, how about testing the ABUS Granite series locks?
why no litelock? isnt that one also very good?
yeah those D locks are nice but sometimes you can't use them because they are the wrong shape for some bike parking spots so i prefer chain lock so then i can atleast use the lock basically every time.
Can you also try LITELOK X3 as well? Supposingly it takes several angle grinder blades and you still can't cut it
Litelok x3 and Litelok Moto are the best you can get.
How long would it take to cut the bike rack ?
i like how you didn't even take the water bottle off the bike before doing this. the water is probably like 50% metal after this test. 😀
The anti-angle grinder locks are impressive, but whatever the bike is locked to (for instance, a bike rack) is not angle grinder resistant, probably less than 90 seconds. A thief could grind through the bike rack, take bike, complete with expensive lock, throw it in the van, and then take it to their garage, where they could cut through the expensive lock with an acetylene torch. Find a place to lock the bike that is not secluded, or arrange with an employer to let you park the bike somewhere inside.
Nice 90s UK Gladiator TV show reference from Jimmi
My mtb, secured with an abus u-lock was stolen by the thieves pulling out the guardrail from the concrete foot, and slipping the bike off. Either that base trick they used before, or the base was just a piece of junk and they got lucky. That one still hurts
My colleague had a really good bike lock. Unfortunately the bike rack was really easy to cut… Next video do a angle grinder test of bike racks!
I like the two wrench method for pad locks
How much time does it take to cut the support instead?
Would like to see the video on drilling out the lock where the key goes . Mostly there made of brass and drilling it out opens most locks. Cheers
The high end Squires have hardened steel pins and ball bearings in the keyway to damage drill bits. Check out LPL Squire SS100CS teardown.
After reading some comments and checking disc myself 03:51 you guys probably used wrong type of diamond disc for this test that could wrongly show real time results.
That one in video probably IS for concrete bc it has wider gap than ones for cutting stainless steel, and some Ive seen don't even have gaps.
I think you should do test again on DX1000 and Squire D16 MAX. But ofc with Diamond Cutting Disc specifically for Stainless Steel, without any gaps perhaps. And show disc to the camera in future videos.
I would like to see how and where you secure the locks to. I think your street lamps are thick as ours in Germany and the Hiplok D1000 and D16 maybe not fit like most of these styles?
How about the regular Hiplok DX? Obviously, it wont be as strong as the DX1000 but wondering if it is still a solid lock since it is secure diamond.
Saw one use a ezarc metal master disk in grinder cut through the d1000 in 33 seconds
The performance of a battery powered angle grinder definitely goes down when the battery is drained, for fair results a fully charged battery should be used for every lock.
What frame is this bike built on?
So nice
Custom titanium. Idk what brand made for him.
you guys should test the litelok x3 and the abus granit super extreme 2500!!
I guess if you sent those locks to the LPL to have him check the cores for picking resistence - well - that'd be interesting ;)
I was looking at bike lock reviews and now this shows up in my recommended…. Guess it’s a sign lol.
Diamond tipped blade not stopping anything 😮
As much as I like the $300 locks, I have seen none of them come with an appropriate holder for the bike frame. They seem to expect you to carry it in your backpack, which you dont always want to wear, or in the best case the Hiplock D1000 Carry Pouch, which is an eyesore and I dont trust not to move around. Deal breaker for me.
It's super simple guys. You make a plastic or metal holder that sits on the top tube, that you thread the lock through and lock it, and it holds the lock rock solid along the side of the top tube, no rattling around. If Trelock can do it, so can you. I'm not buying until you do.
For the anti angle grinder locks, how secure are their locks from being picked.
Lock is only as good as the rack it’s locked to. Those D frame racks would only be a minute or two to cut through.
At least then it would be a felony if they got caught. Destruction of government property in the U.S. is a bigger thing than a person's lock and a stolen bike.
That's why everyone locks the rear wheel to the rack, can't ride a locked wheel
@@IsaacRC But you can carry or drive it to somewhere else instead.
@@lindus9201 I wouldn't want going around showing the actual evidence of a theft
@@IsaacRC Sure, but you could just take it somewhere safe and use a corded angle drive and not having to bother with time or sound, was what I ment.
For the 2 top locks you should try drilling thru the key hole. Looks like the hoop is solid but the key hole might be the weakness.
Check out LPLs Squire SS100CS teardown, high end Squires have hardened steel pins and ball bearings in the keyway to damage drill bits.
Im actually shocked how good the OnGuard Pitbull did cost wise.
Would like to see a Pragmasis chain tested
Thoughts: 1) I love my Knog Scout bike alarm. For "hopping in the cafe for a moment", its the best. Not a lock and shouldn't considered as such, but still, so nice to beep boop the phone and know its armed and beep boop when I come outside and ride off. 2) For basic "commuting" use, i.e. lock the bike up while you get tacos, getting a 5 minute cut time is probably sufficient as people will be around in front of most businesses. 3) For at the office, overnight, or common area lock ups, you are going to want one of those 10+ models.
What discs are you using?
A diamond one for cutting masonry 😔
In the States that red would be a Diablo diamond blade, idk if that translates across the pond though
What about the freeze sprays, car jacks and other means of attack ?