Neoxus, WhoYouCanTrustToGiveQualityJojoreferences They physically can. How does a bat shoot eggs, lay something similar to grenade eggs, or utilize a beak like weapon? It wouldn’t look out of the ordinary for Ganondorf, Daisy & Simon to do what they do, but it definitely would for Yookah & Laylee to have many of B&K’s moveset
@@minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl I don't get why you guys just don't play the really good translation. I mean if you don't support using roms because no one is getting paid, then it's Nintendo missing their opportunity and in that case I guess you could just buy some official merch from nintendo...
Realistically fox could be subbed for by either his father, or one of the extra members of star fox from Command. Same goes for Falco, wtf was he thinking with PEPPY?
or what if they had toon ganondorf? the ganondorf from windwaker was insanely agile, and duel wielded swords.. i always thought that’d make such a great combination for smash
Chain Chomp. Neutral B : Spike Ball Side B : Poison Gas Up B : Wriggler Down B : Long-Straight-Shot (Reference to Super Mario Odyssey Boss Fight) "He's already an assist trophy though..." Ok fine Muncher then
I feel like Alvis would make way more sense as an echo for Shulk because he canonically uses the Monado along with having similar abilities. Saying Rex as an echo as for Shulk is just lazy.
@@mrtaxcollector9552 why do you all hate mew? Let me guess it's because salty you couldn't get him in gen and he wasn't under the truck, there is no real reason to hate mew besides the fact that you can't actually have them on your team, you might actually like mew and just wanna start and internet argument and just want attention, this is my only reply I will reply no further.
Would be weird, since Gooey has no arms nor legs, meaning all of the moves involving kicks or punches that kirby has would look weird on someone without them And reanimating him to match his tongue to the attacks would defeat the purpose of ease of development
Oh, he's going to pick digby for isabelle because they are practically the same height, stature, and for the fact that they are also siblings! "Tom Nook!" GOD DAMNIT
Honestly grimmsnarl would probably work best because he can learn darkest lariat and trick sort of could be a mechanic instead of incins revenge, the only thing is the wrestler toss thing
No doubt this will get buried but I needed to get this out there: For Terry's Echo Fighter, you could have Rock Howard from Garou: Mark of the Wolves (which is considered a Fatal Fury game) as he shares Terry's moves in that game. Though you'd have to add a few moves similar to his father, Geese Howard since Rock's fighting style is a combination of both Terry and Geese (i.e Instead of Power Wave and Burn Knuckle, Rock could have Reppuken and Hard Edge. Maybe replace Power Geyser and Buster Wolf with Raging Storm and Shining Knuckle, respectively as his Super Special moves. I'm just brainstorming...)
17:15 Rock Howard as an Echo for Terry, he ia literally his disciple and has a move set pretty much alike, belongs to the oficial Fatal fury canon and it’s one of the most beloved snk characters despite not being in a lot of games since his debut game
See I don't see why clefairy wouldn't be her echo. Can learn ALL the same moves jiggs has, and if they wanna change it up, just swap sing for metronome. I've thought about clefairy being her echo for a while
Terry’s Echo would be Rock Howard. No question. Both have a ground projectile, rising tackle, power dunk and rock has a move that is similar to burn knuckle.
2:36 I would’ve made that Gooey, since he can use his tongue and has shown to be able to use all of Kirby’s abilities in Kirby’s Dreamland 3, growing appendages for abilities like Clean.
Do you know that there is a shadow mewtwo, we could use him as an echo for mewtwo. And his final smash is the same thing but his design could be his Mega X from Pokémon tournament.
SomeCall MeThings Gooey can grow little nub arms and (I presume) legs considering he has done so before. He grows a little nub arm to hold the Parasol for the Parasol Ability in Kirby’s Dreamland 3
Rock Howard would be perfect as a Terry echo: His moveset is half Terry/Half Geese. He hates Geese so he loathes using the moves borrowed from Geese to the point that in the games, (if he finishes the match using one of Geese's attacks, he'll have a special win quote "Why does my evil blood boil?"). He could use Terry's moves and explain away the Geese part by saying he's just avoiding using them. Geese's moves were also kindsa similar to some of Terry's anyways due to Geese being trained by Tung Fu Rue, Meanwhile Terry was trained by Jeff Bogard (who was trained by Tung himself) before cutting out the middle man and learning from TFR in person
Maybe R.O.B. could have the Ancient Minister from Brawl’s Subspace Emissary as his Echo Fighter, since R.O.B. according to the story of Brawl, *is* the Ancient Minister under the cloak and all that. Just something I thought about.
@@driveasandwich6734 I think link's echo should be the other link's and echo link should be like hero alts like where the voice sounds different and other things and we can get oot and tp and finally get ss link
The rules are loose enough when it comes to adapting EarthBound characters to Smash, so you could make him a echo of Lucas, he looks more like Ness but his abilities are closer to Lucas and just give him his boomerang as his Side B and call it a day.
Not a problem at all, ness and lucas werent supposed to be able use some of the abilities they can use in smash, its supposed to look like as if paula and kumatora taught them those abilities
For Popo and Nana it'd be cool if the echo was... Nana and Popo. With Nana leading, Nana would have slightly different commands to give each other, for example side b being a hammer throw instead.
Rock has some different moves from Terry though, even though Terry raised him he's still the son of geese so I don't know, but I know that it would be great to see him
Shippuken is basically a standing, blue power wave. And though I don't remember the name of the attack, he pretty much has his own version of the burning knuckle. I see them sharing many moves but with different names and particle effects. Rock can have his counter as a down b instead of power dunk. And his super specials can be raging storm and shining knuckle. It could be a case of Ken or chrome with how distinct of an echo they are
Pokémon trainers echo fighter could be “professor”- it would make a lot of sense actually. The professor is who gives the trainer the starters and you could skin this character as professors from different generations
It could be either Oak or Sycamore, they both give you the starters. In the case of Sycamore, Charizard could become Mega-Charizard X or Y{preferably Y as it has higher special attack} for Triple Finish)
Actually, there's another idea, and it fits surprisingly well. Go for Unova. Specifically either Hilbert or N. The movesets of Oshawott, Ferrothorn, and Volcarona are an easy match for what we see from Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard. Edit: It said Larvesta before instead of Volcarona. What was I thinking...
I think Lord Frederick could be a good echo for King K Rool, they're almost the same size. Just change the blunderbuss to the giant horn he uses and have him shoot out ice balls. Also he could use his viking helmet like the crown boomerang. Don't know about the recovery tho, they could switch it like they did with Chrom
For a Bowser echo you could use Midbus, he was the main antagonist you would fight as Bowser in Bowser's Inside Story. They have very similar body structures and both a have a very brute force way of fighting that are sort of similar. The only thing I'm unsure about is fire breath.
Suggestion, Salazzle. Salazzle is a flexible pokemon who can walk on all fours if she feels like it, and you could just change the water effects to poison/fire effects
@@mininunbread1426 replace water shuriken with water pulse as a projectile that does actually real damage to the shield (bcse water pulse has a chance of confusing the oponnent) or that straight away paralizes the foe for a couple of seconds, make him a little bit faster but also weightless and (why not) that he uses dig instead of shadow sneak, that actually sents then upwards instead of sideways
@@Sol_r0c Yeah, it kind of feels like that. He didn't mentioned that Ike and Black Knight were both trained by the same man, Greil (Ike's father). IMO, the best Echo Fighter for Robin is Celica from Fire Emblem Echoes, Shadows of Valentia. Soren is a tactician like Robin but unlike Robin, Soren can only use magic, and staffs when you promote him. Celica on the other hand uses swords and Magic, and she could give more love to the red haired FE Lords as well. And finally....Corrin. Yeeeeeah, Tiki and Corrin are completely different type of Dragons, So I think Kana is the better choice as Corrin's Echo Fighter. Like parent, like child.
@@DarthSigma86 celica is the face of physical/magic hybrid lords, so i agree, as well as making the clones of the avatars their canon kids (who, by virtue of inheriting the class, fight exactly the same way). the only issue i can see is kanas age. people might not like the idea of beating up a kid
Sephiroth, no idea. Kazuya, I wanted Jin to be his echo so badly. My reasoning was that even after Tekken 4, Jin’s new moveset is still executed in the same ways as the traditional Mishima moveset, plus he also has the Devil Gene like Kaz does.
@@toonash55 that would be cool too but Andy has a totally different moveset in the games because he's a ninja and in the lore, Rock was trained by Terry and they pretty much play the same with slight changes
Rock indeed shares a lot of moves and mannerisms with Terry. Though i'd imagine his specials would be altered a bit, to be truer to his origins. Such as his Burning knuckle replacement being two-hits, starting with an elbow strike followed by a palm thrust with the other hand.
I actually cringed when he said we can have a dark zero suit samus. There is no such thing as a dark zero suit samus, if that was the case samus would have been dead and metroid prime 2 wouldn't have happened.
3 comments. 1: I love how you refused to spoil the Masked Man but outed Ravio without a second though even though he is a way more recent character. 2: I think The Boss would make a great echo for snake since she trained him and was almost a mother figure and it could be cool as an alternate take. 3: As for Parahna Plant, if we are willing to jump series again then Plant's echo could be Deku Baba from the Zelda series.
Making the Masked Man an echo for Lucas makes absolutely no sense, he would seriously be a sword character although unlike most sword characters he'll have psychokinesis. You can probably make Kumatora work as an echo for Lucas though.
Thanks for mentioning the Ravio thing. I think it's fair to assume that a lot of people at this point know who the Masked Man is, but since Ravio is much newer and from (as far as I can tell) a lesser-acknowledged Zelda game, not too many people outside of those who've played the game would know who he is.
Actually, the Boss trained Naked Snake (Big Boss), who trained Solid Snake (which is the Snake that's in Smash). Therefore, Big Boss should be his echo. Also, Liquid Snake would also be a cool echo fighter.
In fairness, Mew's moveset is a bit different as Mew can learn basically _any move ever_ because it's supposed to be the ancestor of all Pokemon, so a case could be made for giving it a drastically different moveset and it hypothetically being its own character
I just wanna take a moment to say thank you for putting Zack as Cloud's echo fighter. Everyone I see talking about this always mentions another FF character like Squall which isn't terrible but Zack just makes the most sense
Aaron: I don't think Terry can have an echo because everyone from snk is unique and doesn't have a similar enough move set to terry. Rock Howard: Am I a joke to you?
What do you mean “that giygas isn’t canon?” Spoilers: Giygas was originally giygue, AKA giygas from mother, but after his loss in mother he became the twisted form of giygas seen in Earthbound.
I feel like Adult Link or Twilight Princess Link would work better as an echo for Link, basically just taking Links moves from previous games _before_ the Breath of the Wild changes.
This! Same with the Robins and Morgans. Corrin isn't even a true manakete to the degree that Tiki is. (Just try not to imagine the story of fates playing out the same, but with Corrin and Azura being practically toddlers now. I dare you.)
The thing with the clones not being echo fighters is usually down to the actual properties of a fighter being super distinct instead of minor changes, such as Dr Mario being heavier and Pichu having self-shock.
Although they have a fairly similar body, I think the amount of moveset differences between Kirby and Waddle Dee (especially Bandana Dee cuz of the spear) would make it really hard to have him as an echo fighter. Maybe they could get Gooey to be Kirby’s echo? I can see them having a very similar moveset to Kirby (outside of Up-Special, their Inhale ability, and however the dev team decides to handle their basic/smash attacks), but they don’t look very similar to Kirby, so.... Idk, finding an echo for Kirby is hard if you want them to have identical movesets xD
I say we could ha e my yarn version, and he just makes the copy abilities out of yarn. His yarn grab would have a slight increase in range on my inhale, but would be out for far shorter as a result.
I think Gooey can definetly work Gooey can copy abilities like Kirby, so their specials wouldnt be a problem since he can have the same abilities (in this case Rock, Hammer and Cutter) and Smash attacks and basics could just be Gooey smashing his tongue into people instead of Kirby with his foot/"fist"
@@jordwxn Except for the other times in the video where he couldn't do that, so he used things like Luigi and Mario as echo's for Ice Climbers. It's close enough honestly
I like the idea but there's one problem, and that's the alolan flip. It's basically some form of circle throw already, but how do you adapt that to Machamp?
Aaronitmar and his echo fighter for Smash
Aaronitmar Pringles.
Facial hair
The new echoes should also have echoes
Cheese
Both.
"I couldn't think of anything for Banjo"
Yooka-Laylee: Am I a joke to you?
Well yes
blendyboi
There’s various things Banjo & Kazooie can do that Yookah and Laylee can’t
@@Sjono I didn't know Daisy could float and that Simon could use Grand Cross)
Oh wow
Neoxus, WhoYouCanTrustToGiveQualityJojoreferences
They physically can. How does a bat shoot eggs, lay something similar to grenade eggs, or utilize a beak like weapon?
It wouldn’t look out of the ordinary for Ganondorf, Daisy & Simon to do what they do, but it definitely would for Yookah & Laylee to have many of B&K’s moveset
12:56 I can't unsee Shulk trying to steal Robin's book
* Worries about revealing spoilers for Mother 3’s Masked Man
* Has no problem revealing who Ravio is
And on top of that most of us won't be able to play Mother 3
also included spoilers for persona 5 royal (which isnt out in the west for a couple more months)
@@minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl I don't get why you guys just don't play the really good translation. I mean if you don't support using roms because no one is getting paid, then it's Nintendo missing their opportunity and in that case I guess you could just buy some official merch from nintendo...
@Parth Vasu you still need a rom to play on an emulator, but i know what you meant to say
@@redvelvetdoll dude the character is in tons of trailers and promotions, how is she a spoiler?
For Olimar, you can easily get him Louie. He's basically the same kind of character, so there wouldn't be major move set changes.
Rob's echo fighter could be his disguised form from the subspace emissary, since it is literally rob but he looks different enough
That would be so cool
Pls some respect for Ancient Minister
Robs echo could be the virtual boy
The NES zapper could be his echo
"I'm not sure if that Giygas is even canon"
It's literally the final boss of Mother 1
Czaros the Moogle thanks for spoiling it.
the youtube gamer sorry for spoiling a 30 year old game that mentions it in the opening text
@@Leo-zt3og Actually no Giygas is not the final boss it's the 3rd police man you meet from the beginninf
@@dylanfagle3409 And the final boss of Mother 1 (and technically 2 as well)
Czaros the Moogle And the whole Giygas war in mother 2!?
You:
“Why is alph a costume make him an echo”
Also you:
“Ridley gets aerodactyl”
Like bruh meta Ridley could easily be his own character
Konnar MC alph should be a good echo still suprised they didn’t do it
Muse Suse Everybody forgot about Brittany
we need the president of hocotate freight in smash
If Dr. Mario is his own character, Meta Ridley can too.
Or omega ridley
What I've learned about a lot of Aaron's videos is he does not like to do his research lol
DING DING DING!! CORRECT ANSWER!
"I don't think that that Giygas is technically canon"
@superminingbro4037 right???? Like what did he even mean by that?
As soon as he added Waddle Dee like wtf
really phoned it in for this
I mean terry's echo can be rock howard. Terry literally is his mentor and taught him all he knows
But rock plays completely differently than terry
@@davisdoesgamesreal true i couldn't come up with a possible echo. Rock is the closest to a Terry echo
i’d say andy or geese is a better fit
He could have all of his specials, but the A attacks need to be slightly different... like geese Howard (and his throws)
@@JesusSanchez-td4ho geese would need a different up B and down B though. He doesn't have a rising tackle or power dunk like move.
Fox’s echo should be Slippy
James McCloud: Am I a joke to you
I was gonna comment this but you beat me to it
Realistically fox could be subbed for by either his father, or one of the extra members of star fox from Command. Same goes for Falco, wtf was he thinking with PEPPY?
Why not Marcus?
Fox's son from Command
Personally, he prefers the hare
Or even Krystal works too
"Shulk's would of course be Rex because they can both wield the Monado"
You sure about that one?
TechnoBlast649 I mean, you can wield the Monado as Rex with Shulk acting as a blade in XC2
Lol ikr. I was thinking Dunban for sure because he literally uses Shulk's Monado (even if it's at a lower capacity)
@@aleedlelee Or if we're going for XC2 character it could be Malos
Alvis could also work
LiL Failed He spends far more of the game not using it than he does using it, though.
I'd have Tetra as Toon Link's echo, since they originate from the same game, and would have similar movesets.
or what if they had toon ganondorf? the ganondorf from windwaker was insanely agile, and duel wielded swords.. i always thought that’d make such a great combination for smash
Ironically enough, Tetra was planned for Brawl and even had a model that was used for her trophy.
Terry: "doesn't make sense to give anyone his moveset"
Female Terry: Am I a joke to you?
There’s also Rock Howard y’know. Though he’s more of his own character. And don’t forget that “Smash is for good boys and girls.”
@@stampede808 True. Very true, my fellow Smash player.
What about geese?
@@darthsalad8204 Another excellent point, fellow Smash player
I felt like Rock Howard could have definitely worked, but I also thought about Andy if he didn’t come in as a cameo.
Hero’s echo could also be CJ, as both of their down B’s bring up a cheats menu
Wario's echo could be Big Smoke because both are fat and both drive bikes
@@blueplatinumrosalina1371 honestly when he showed Wario I jumped to Slippi
😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@blueplatinumrosalina1371 😂🤣😂😂😂
@@blueplatinumrosalina1371 If he were to get an echo, it would probably be one of his transformations like Vampire Wario.
"I couldnt think of anyone for piranha plant"
Muncher: *sad muncher noises*
Exactly what I thought.
You could also have the chomper from PvZ
@@bthirsty453 I was gonna say that
My pick would be a Deku Baba
Chain Chomp.
Neutral B : Spike Ball
Side B : Poison Gas
Up B : Wriggler
Down B : Long-Straight-Shot
(Reference to Super Mario Odyssey Boss Fight)
"He's already an assist trophy though..."
Ok fine Muncher then
I feel like Alvis would make way more sense as an echo for Shulk because he canonically uses the Monado along with having similar abilities. Saying Rex as an echo as for Shulk is just lazy.
there's discussion of malos too being shulks echo where his buster and smash art could be buffed while speed, sheild, and jump are a bit worse.
even Malos would be far more logical as an echo fighter for Shulk, Rex just... doesn't feel right
"it would be inaproppiate to give terry's moveset to any fatal fury character"
Rock howard: am i a joke to you?
i mean he is literally his succesor
“I can’t think of an echo fighter for Terry”
Female Terry: Am I a joke to you?
Any other king of fighters characters:am I a joke to you?
LOL
bill bobs me: no one asked
Rock Howard, but instead of crack shoot, power geyser and buster wolf, he could have his original super specials and make his power wave purple.
again? really...
stfu meme
5:56
Shadow Mewtwo: *Visible frustration*
lol. I’d kill to have a pokken rep. Pikachu libre does not count, only shadow mewtwo does
There's also mew....
@Malachi Hodge no need to be so aggressive.
@@GalazyProductions Fuck Mew B)))
@@mrtaxcollector9552 why do you all hate mew? Let me guess it's because salty you couldn't get him in gen and he wasn't under the truck, there is no real reason to hate mew besides the fact that you can't actually have them on your team, you might actually like mew and just wanna start and internet argument and just want attention, this is my only reply I will reply no further.
You can use Gooey with Kirby. Both of them can eat enemies and copy abilities, you just replace the inhale ability for the big tongue
Yea, he's literally player 2 in Kirby's Dream Land 3
Would be weird, since Gooey has no arms nor legs, meaning all of the moves involving kicks or punches that kirby has would look weird on someone without them
And reanimating him to match his tongue to the attacks would defeat the purpose of ease of development
@@kirbyofthestarsfan ease of development is not something you consider when balancing the universe
"Giving everyone an echo fighter"
"Almost 75% of the cast gets no Echo fighters or echoes that dont make sense"
*cries in announcer*
Give him a break, its harder than you think and he really went for it.
@@bluecrasher7710 he should've asked fans for ideas on Twitter before this video was made imo
Blue could easily be an echo fighter
Swagulishush Doge judging from the fact he said “Rex can also wield the Monado” he didn’t put that much research in this video.
me: oh, he’s probably gonna say machamp for incineroar
aaronitmar: rAndoM wResTler FroM faMAcoM lmaoooo
Oh, he's going to pick digby for isabelle because they are practically the same height, stature, and for the fact that they are also siblings!
"Tom Nook!"
GOD DAMNIT
I was thinking Blaziken for Incineroars echo, they both are very hands on fire type starters after all they prioritize physical attack moves
Honestly grimmsnarl would probably work best because he can learn darkest lariat and trick sort of could be a mechanic instead of incins revenge, the only thing is the wrestler toss thing
See, I was thinking Pangoro.
Me: Shadow mewtwo for mewtwo!
"Giygas" Me: Wtf?
No doubt this will get buried but I needed to get this out there:
For Terry's Echo Fighter, you could have Rock Howard from Garou: Mark of the Wolves (which is considered a Fatal Fury game) as he shares Terry's moves in that game. Though you'd have to add a few moves similar to his father, Geese Howard since Rock's fighting style is a combination of both Terry and Geese (i.e Instead of Power Wave and Burn Knuckle, Rock could have Reppuken and Hard Edge. Maybe replace Power Geyser and Buster Wolf with Raging Storm and Shining Knuckle, respectively as his Super Special moves. I'm just brainstorming...)
17:15 Rock Howard as an Echo for Terry, he ia literally his disciple and has a move set pretty much alike, belongs to the oficial Fatal fury canon and it’s one of the most beloved snk characters despite not being in a lot of games since his debut game
Oh God. I can just imagine how early you would be able to kill Igglybuff...
Bayonetta suddenly became relevant again
Basically how early jigglypuff can be killed, but split in half
See I don't see why clefairy wouldn't be her echo. Can learn ALL the same moves jiggs has, and if they wanna change it up, just swap sing for metronome. I've thought about clefairy being her echo for a while
@@dylanweaver7827 I feel like Metronome would be subbed for a different move, not Sing.
@@dylanweaver7827, clefairy isn't a balloon
(Referring to Kirby and Waddle Dee) “They do function pretty similarly”
Yeah, they’re almost the exact same, except for, y’know, absolutely everything
they have the same body shape, and that is pretty much it
-Shadow Kirby or TAC or something would have been better-
Gooey.
*m o u t h*
Either Gooey or Batamon (Kirby's Dreamland 3) could work
10:40 ancient ministry could be an echo for Rob
Maybe BOOSTER from SMRPG could be Wario's Echo Fighter; after all; Booster is Basically A Manchild Wario with a Beard!!
"Shulks Echo Fighter is Rex"
Dunban: Am I joke to you?
Abe the HD remake
Alvis: *silently comforts Dunban*
Z**** is an even more obvious pick
When they said Rex could also wield the Monado, I silently got mad.
Mark And I like pigs same
*y E s*
Terry’s Echo would be Rock Howard. No question. Both have a ground projectile, rising tackle, power dunk and rock has a move that is similar to burn knuckle.
What about female Terry?
Replace Triple Geyser with Raging Storm and we're good ^_^
@@boshwick5324 Smash is for good boys and girls of all ages
@@boshwick5324 Female Terry might be cute, but is utterly irrelevant. I'm still salty he lacks his MoW costume, though.
Thank you!
"I guess Zero Suit Samus's echo would be whatever's inside Dark Samus"
[cries in Gandrayda]
Lol I thought the same
The Boss from MGS could also be an off-series echo fighter
2:36 I would’ve made that Gooey, since he can use his tongue and has shown to be able to use all of Kirby’s abilities in Kirby’s Dreamland 3, growing appendages for abilities like Clean.
Wait, Gooey grew appendages in Dream Land 3? That sounds cursed...
Do you know that there is a shadow mewtwo, we could use him as an echo for mewtwo.
And his final smash is the same thing but his design could be his Mega X from Pokémon tournament.
Mega mewtwo x is in the games aswell mate
#mini nunbread and mega Y
or just mew. mew would work perfectly.
The next smash game: This game has twice the characters in Ultimate
The next Smash game:
Smash bros legends
Directed by Todd howard :)
Who
Smash Bros X
More like 1.7 times the characters because this lazy idiot couldn't be bothered to come up with echo fighters for all the characters.
12:08 : Exists
Cosmic Rosalina: "ARE YA SURE ABOUT DAT?!"
I think he didn't play Mario galaxy
That would be a reskin like Little Mac.
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm ... he gave mario shadow mario
“ I couldn’t think of anything for greyninja.”
Frogadier: Am I a joke to you?
Accelgor.
It gets water shuriken like Greninja ,is said to be quick
IS SAID TO BE QUICK and that's all
Inteleon could work too in my opinion
Water Ninja frog
Water Spy lizard
I feel like no further explanation is necessary XD
ME
Or just adapt any other pokemon.
@@taiphonix9232 Accelgor doesn't have legs though...
Fox’s echo should be slippy
James Mcloud: am I a joke to you
wow
Repost
James would be a costume
Bruh, James is just Fox with sunglasses. He can literally be an alt costume.
@@rexythet.rexfromjpreadabou186 Same can be said about a lot of these, like Funky Kong, or Dark Bowser.
Falco's echo Peppy: personally I prefer the hare
I could actually see fox and falco echos go to the other members of star wolf. The chameleon and panther.
That was good
"Hands off my carrot."
“Kirby’s echo could be Waddle Dee”
Gooey: Am I a joke to you?
Also Peppino for Wario’s echo
Gooey has no arms or legs
Kirby's echo could be Waddle Dee
Gooey: Am I a joke to you.
Shadow Kirby: Whhhhhhyyyyyy did this happen to me.😭😭😭
SomeCall MeThings Gooey can grow little nub arms and (I presume) legs considering he has done so before. He grows a little nub arm to hold the Parasol for the Parasol Ability in Kirby’s Dreamland 3
River Walker I forgot about Shadow Kirby. He could work too, but I just think Gooey would be a more creative and unique choice
9:31 Olimar should've had Louie as his echo fighter. It would make sense because Louie was his partner for most of Pikmin 2.
And Louie would be a chaotic Olimar like in the games and _could_ have a Brittany alt
Rock Howard would be perfect as a Terry echo: His moveset is half Terry/Half Geese. He hates Geese so he loathes using the moves borrowed from Geese to the point that in the games, (if he finishes the match using one of Geese's attacks, he'll have a special win quote "Why does my evil blood boil?"). He could use Terry's moves and explain away the Geese part by saying he's just avoiding using them. Geese's moves were also kindsa similar to some of Terry's anyways due to Geese being trained by Tung Fu Rue, Meanwhile Terry was trained by Jeff Bogard (who was trained by Tung himself) before cutting out the middle man and learning from TFR in person
Yes! Someone who gets the idea!
Rock is literally his (adopted) son! It is perfect!
Alternate title “my grandpa makes echo fighters for characters he knows nothing about”
He yells at smash Bros for having Ryu and Ken for being echo fighters but he puts banjo and kazooie with duck hunt
@@roverplush2.0 he made a cool modpack for smash 4
@@roverplush2.0 Gonna disagree with that.
@@roverplush2.0 you are just nitpicking and biased. I win, bye bye.
@@roverplush2.0 because this video really makes you feel like an actual echo fighter. Theres a little something for everyone.
Maybe R.O.B. could have the Ancient Minister from Brawl’s Subspace Emissary as his Echo Fighter, since R.O.B. according to the story of Brawl, *is* the Ancient Minister under the cloak and all that. Just something I thought about.
or it could be primid
I have brawl too
I can actually see him being a more floaty version of R.O.B!
I like that a lot
instead of giving link getting the hero of time echo skin , it should be young link because YOUNG LINK IS THE HERO OF TIME
Well we already did have Young Link, so I guess he wanted to try an adult Link echo.
Link also started as the Hero of Time, and is an amalgam of him, the Hero of Twilight (who was trained by him), and the Hero from BoTW.
Ocarina Link would look weird all hunched over on Young Link's bone structure like you're suggesting, would look better on normal Link's
@@kirbyofthestarsfan might be the same reason why adult link has the fierce deity costume and not young link
@@driveasandwich6734 I think link's echo should be the other link's and echo link should be like hero alts like where the voice sounds different and other things and we can get oot and tp and finally get ss link
"Ninten & Ness have similar abilities"
My guy Ninten can't learn Offensive PSI at all...
He could learn it from ana to be fair ness barely had offensive psi in EB. But Ninten should definitely not be an echo.
The rules are loose enough when it comes to adapting EarthBound characters to Smash, so you could make him a echo of Lucas, he looks more like Ness but his abilities are closer to Lucas and just give him his boomerang as his Side B and call it a day.
Not a problem at all, ness and lucas werent supposed to be able use some of the abilities they can use in smash, its supposed to look like as if paula and kumatora taught them those abilities
@@josearmando9933 Still, he shouldn't be able to use PK Flash or the Yo-Yo since those aren't in MOTHER 1, and he should have PK Beam and 4th D Slip.
@@kfcnyancat PK flash is from Lucas but is in Ness's moveset and neither of them can learn PK starstorm (although this was fixed in Ultimate)
Aaronitmar: spoils a big thing from link between worlds
Also Aaronitmar: yeah, we don't say who the masked man is
Aaron : I am so confused on what to make Mewtwo
Me: shadow mewtwo
Aaron: I have nothing
Me: Shadow Mewtwo
Aaron: I guess gycus
Me: SHADOW MEWTWO
banjo and kazooie
Nobody:
Mee: INFINITE FROM SONIC FORCES
Did you misspell Giygas, the Earthbound Boss? Or is it a character I don't even know?
Or mew
Shadow mewtwo is an alt
Ancient mew from the tcg for smash
For Popo and Nana it'd be cool if the echo was... Nana and Popo. With Nana leading, Nana would have slightly different commands to give each other, for example side b being a hammer throw instead.
6:06 “I don’t think that giygas is technically cannon”
*Laughs in Porky from Mother 3*
“I don’t like when games jump together”
Ice climbers:*sad icey noises*
"nobody can echo Terry"
Right.... I keep forgetting you guys over there are not as versed in snk lore and characters.....
*Cries in Rock Howard
Rock has some different moves from Terry though, even though Terry raised him he's still the son of geese so I don't know, but I know that it would be great to see him
Rock still can be a unique echo fighter like ken and ryu because they both use rising tackle
Shippuken is basically a standing, blue power wave. And though I don't remember the name of the attack, he pretty much has his own version of the burning knuckle. I see them sharing many moves but with different names and particle effects.
Rock can have his counter as a down b instead of power dunk. And his super specials can be raging storm and shining knuckle.
It could be a case of Ken or chrome with how distinct of an echo they are
@@ReN20XX that would be amazing
“Wart hasn’t been in a game since Mario 2”
Link’s Awakening: Am I a joke to you?
Oh right! I forgot he was a easter egg in that game.
I’m not sure if this counts, but he was mentioned in Paper Mario: Color Splash.
@@paulcastillo1880 You're required to talk to him, not an Easter Egg
Paul Castillo
How is it an easter egg if you have to talk to him to progress?
And he gets referenced in paper Mario color splash
“Kirby could have waddle dee”
To clarify: a generic one, or bandana Dee?
He showed a picture of bandana dee and like credited the artist so I think he meant bandana dee
Bandana dee...I think?
Kirby, who does not use weapons except on a couple specials, should have a character that uses nothing but weapons as the echo
R.O.B.'s Echo is obviously Wall-E.
How about Boy Virtual Boy?
@@AlinaAniretake yes
Chappie
@@AlinaAniretake yeaaAAaaaa
Claptrap from Borderlands would be interesting.
I feel like Mewtwo could maybe have Deoxys as his echo maybe idk.
Deoxys? Wh about Alakazam
S H A D O W M E W T W O
@@waffledoctor87 because Deoxys has the tentacles the use as a whip to replace the tail
Deoxys would be awesome!
Mew could work too since it's the original form anyways
Pokémon trainers echo fighter could be “professor”- it would make a lot of sense actually. The professor is who gives the trainer the starters and you could skin this character as professors from different generations
It could be either Oak or Sycamore, they both give you the starters. In the case of Sycamore, Charizard could become Mega-Charizard X or Y{preferably Y as it has higher special attack} for Triple Finish)
Actually, there's another idea, and it fits surprisingly well. Go for Unova. Specifically either Hilbert or N. The movesets of Oshawott, Ferrothorn, and Volcarona are an easy match for what we see from Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard.
Edit: It said Larvesta before instead of Volcarona. What was I thinking...
Tuvya Maeir you mean volcarona?
@@conwool2609 Yes, thank you. I'll edit.
I think Lord Frederick could be a good echo for King K Rool, they're almost the same size. Just change the blunderbuss to the giant horn he uses and have him shoot out ice balls. Also he could use his viking helmet like the crown boomerang. Don't know about the recovery tho, they could switch it like they did with Chrom
“They both use the manado..”
* angry dunban yelling in the distance while unfinished battle is playing.. *
Dude... Machamp would be the perfect echo for Incineroar. Also, I think female Terry would be a good echo for Terry
Yeah Machamp fits pretty well
another one that could fit would be zangief although yeah different series
10:50
Uuummmm
Ancient Minister anybody
Grand Minister indeed
piranha 4ever yes I agree
Parth Vasu kart rob is just rob though but in a kart that’s kinda like saying Mario kart is not Mario because he’s in a kart.
@@howlnwolf3321 But he's different. Because he's in a kart
I also played subspace like a degenerate
*Talking about Mewtwo: "I couldn't think of anything other than Gigas"
Shadow Mewtwo: *visible confusion*
Bowser jr.'s echo can be koopa kid ( 1 of the forgotten Mario characters )
Well, Koopa Kids were more like, Hudson soft Original Characters
Or baby bowser
The bowser jr with no bib in the yoshi’s island games
Terry's echo should be Rock Howard, the dude literally trained him and a lot of his moves are originally from Terry.
Yeah, I support you. Then again, he's a little too unique to be Terry's Echo Fighter, but I do like your idea.
*Thinks Dr. Mario and Pichu should be echo fighters*
*Comes up with echo fighters for each of the Links*
Excuse me what?
Or wario
Young link could be toon link’s echo or vice versa for sure idk why he didn’t just do that
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast he did do that?
16:12 I was thinking of Keeby (kirby's brother) or shadow kirby from kirby and the Amazing mirror
"I don't think Giygas is technically cannon..." But here we are adding Ninten
And yet Guygas is the final boss of Earthbound
NESS'S game
And ninten
@@megaplays2748 Giygas came from Mother 1. He just came back for earthbound.
@@momaniasfc
Yeah Ik
I'm just saying that it makes no sense that he'd be "non-canon" if he's Earthbound
Yeah why did he say he was non-canon? That confused me
“from Lorule rather than Hyrule”.
I just figured it out.
slow clap lol
Low and High
Yo I don’t get it
Holy wow, yep just realized that as well lol
Wow, this comment got traction, and UA-cam JUST notified me?!
Little Mac’s echo could be glass Joe or anyone else in punch out
The main character from Super punch-out makes more sense though. They have the same everything.
For a Bowser echo you could use Midbus, he was the main antagonist you would fight as Bowser in Bowser's Inside Story. They have very similar body structures and both a have a very brute force way of fighting that are sort of similar. The only thing I'm unsure about is fire breath.
He has ice breath I'm pretty sure
Greninja could have Inteleon the final evolution of sobble because let's be honest spys are just ninjas with guns
The problem with that is their hitboxes. Greninja travels on all fours, while Inteleon stands straight up, although their moves could work together
Frogadier as Greninja's echo would make the most sense
@@Azz0161 nope he's going to be smaller and frogadier cant learn water shuriken
Suggestion, Salazzle.
Salazzle is a flexible pokemon who can walk on all fours if she feels like it, and you could just change the water effects to poison/fire effects
@@mininunbread1426 replace water shuriken with water pulse as a projectile that does actually real damage to the shield (bcse water pulse has a chance of confusing the oponnent) or that straight away paralizes the foe for a couple of seconds, make him a little bit faster but also weightless and (why not) that he uses dig instead of shadow sneak, that actually sents then upwards instead of sideways
Robin: has Soren as his alt
Morgan: *eXcUsE mE?*
It really feels like his fe picks are just random characters he picked and chose to do little research on.
@@Sol_r0c Yeah, it kind of feels like that. He didn't mentioned that Ike and Black Knight were both trained by the same man, Greil (Ike's father).
IMO, the best Echo Fighter for Robin is Celica from Fire Emblem Echoes, Shadows of Valentia. Soren is a tactician like Robin but unlike Robin, Soren can only use magic, and staffs when you promote him. Celica on the other hand uses swords and Magic, and she could give more love to the red haired FE Lords as well.
And finally....Corrin. Yeeeeeah, Tiki and Corrin are completely different type of Dragons, So I think Kana is the better choice as Corrin's Echo Fighter. Like parent, like child.
@@DarthSigma86 celica is the face of physical/magic hybrid lords, so i agree, as well as making the clones of the avatars their canon kids (who, by virtue of inheriting the class, fight exactly the same way). the only issue i can see is kanas age. people might not like the idea of beating up a kid
@@Underworlder5 Uhhhhh Ice Climbers? Earthbound Duo?
@@DarthSigma86 ah, right. forgot about that
“They both wield the monado”
I KNOW JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THIS DUDE
Rex can use the monado if you have shulk equipped
Rex obtains the Monado as a DLC in Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Lmao
Sephiroth, no idea. Kazuya, I wanted Jin to be his echo so badly. My reasoning was that even after Tekken 4, Jin’s new moveset is still executed in the same ways as the traditional Mishima moveset, plus he also has the Devil Gene like Kaz does.
Me: this video could be interesting
"Waddle Dee as Kirby's echo"
Me: *closes the video*
TheAwesomeIke why
@@howlnwolf3321 Because it's such a stupid choice and I think the rest of the video is gonna be like that
TheAwesomeIke is it because waddle Dee is a different character
TheAwesomeIke I understand know I’m dumb
dont worry the whole video is full of dumbass choices
Terry can have Rock as echo
That makes perfect since, completely forgot about Rock
Or his adopted brother Andy bogard
@@toonash55 that would be cool too but Andy has a totally different moveset in the games because he's a ninja and in the lore, Rock was trained by Terry and they pretty much play the same with slight changes
Rock indeed shares a lot of moves and mannerisms with Terry. Though i'd imagine his specials would be altered a bit, to be truer to his origins. Such as his Burning knuckle replacement being two-hits, starting with an elbow strike followed by a palm thrust with the other hand.
@@friendlyastronaut6462 oh ok I just had that idea I am not that up to date with the lore of Terry or the many king of fighter games
I feel like this man hasn't played any of the games these characters are from.
Ice climbers could be replaced with seals or yeti’s
“Rex can wield the monado”
Welcome to the Smash fandom. They love this game to death that represents multiple video game series, but don't know shit.
I actually cringed when he said we can have a dark zero suit samus.
There is no such thing as a dark zero suit samus, if that was the case samus would have been dead and metroid prime 2 wouldn't have happened.
@@kelbingus2251 dang
“I could not think of anyone for Rosalina”
**sad Lubba noises**
Drastic body type change I think.
Waluigi has similar body proportions as Rosalina, just remove Luma and replace her wand with Waluigi's tennis racket
@@blueplatinumrosalina1371 and instead of Luca give him a ghost or something
Lubba makes sense ,he could just have a slighlty different hitbox.
(Yeah ,this won't work)
I also saw someone say Pauline and Cappy but eh
Wasn't White Mage from Final Fantasy in Mario Hoops or something??? SHE Could have worked for Rosalina!
Aaronitmar: Terry can't have a echo fighter
Female Terry: Am I a joke to you?
I was about to say the same thing.
I know right
Easy, Rock Howard
But smash is for good little boys and girls so Rock Howard it is =) ( I just would love to see him playable lolol )
Aaron: Piranha Plant is too unique to have anyone
Me: Pvz needs love, CHOMPE-
YESS
YESS
Yessss
No
YES! OR MUNCHER!
3 comments.
1: I love how you refused to spoil the Masked Man but outed Ravio without a second though even though he is a way more recent character.
2: I think The Boss would make a great echo for snake since she trained him and was almost a mother figure and it could be cool as an alternate take.
3: As for Parahna Plant, if we are willing to jump series again then Plant's echo could be Deku Baba from the Zelda series.
Oh lawd the Diababa final smash
Making the Masked Man an echo for Lucas makes absolutely no sense, he would seriously be a sword character although unlike most sword characters he'll have psychokinesis. You can probably make Kumatora work as an echo for Lucas though.
The boss trained "big boss," or
!SPOILERS! The character snake was cloned from.
Thanks for mentioning the Ravio thing. I think it's fair to assume that a lot of people at this point know who the Masked Man is, but since Ravio is much newer and from (as far as I can tell) a lesser-acknowledged Zelda game, not too many people outside of those who've played the game would know who he is.
Actually, the Boss trained Naked Snake (Big Boss), who trained Solid Snake (which is the Snake that's in Smash). Therefore, Big Boss should be his echo.
Also, Liquid Snake would also be a cool echo fighter.
"Mewtwo was hard to find"
Mew: *Sad noises*
In fairness, Mew's moveset is a bit different as Mew can learn basically _any move ever_ because it's supposed to be the ancestor of all Pokemon, so a case could be made for giving it a drastically different moveset and it hypothetically being its own character
Aronitmar: im gonna give every character an echo fighter!
Me: sooo the echo fighters are getting echo fighters🧐
Yes,but actually no!
Aaronitmar*
15:24
Isabelle’s echo fighter should be Digby instead.
I love how characters like Dark Pit or Lucina was hated in smash 4, but everyone loves them now that they are echo fighters
On top of that Lucina is relevant and Marth isn't oh! the tables have turned
Yeah i personally think echo's are wasted slots that could easily be Alt costumes. like olimar and alph
@@minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl Imagine thinking that ANY FE characters are relevant
@@JohnDoe-wb6vl Tiki has been in 4 games and Anna has been in almost all of them
@@kylewood4488-b9r Been in 4 FE games or been in 4 relevant games?
I just wanna take a moment to say thank you for putting Zack as Cloud's echo fighter. Everyone I see talking about this always mentions another FF character like Squall which isn't terrible but Zack just makes the most sense
Aaron: I don't think Terry can have an echo because everyone from snk is unique and doesn't have a similar enough move set to terry.
Rock Howard: Am I a joke to you?
female Terry from SNK Heroines ....is you don't use her as an alt skin
“I can’t think of an echo fighter for Incineroar”
Emboar: Am I a joke to you?
Blaziken
Machamp
Even for a cross series, Zangief ( I hope I spelled that right ) could work
Bowser Jr idk, maybe it can be a ryu/ken situation where machamp has the same move, but it’s slightly different and the fire is removed and
Blaziken isn't the same body type. It would be awkward
What do you mean “that giygas isn’t canon?”
Spoilers: Giygas was originally giygue, AKA giygas from mother, but after his loss in mother he became the twisted form of giygas seen in Earthbound.
That's so cool
I feel like Adult Link or Twilight Princess Link would work better as an echo for Link, basically just taking Links moves from previous games _before_ the Breath of the Wild changes.
Corrin could've easily been Kana instead of Tiki
This! Same with the Robins and Morgans. Corrin isn't even a true manakete to the degree that Tiki is. (Just try not to imagine the story of fates playing out the same, but with Corrin and Azura being practically toddlers now. I dare you.)
EXACTLY
SnapSnap True. i’d love to see Tiki in smash either way though so....
ZSS could have Gandrayda. She’s a nimble bounty hunter from Prime 3
It’s obvious, Wario’s Echo Fighter would clearly be..
Shrek
Donkey: am I a joke to you?
I would love to see Shrek using Wario's nair
Account An0nymous donkey is the motorbike
Lol I like that joke
@@ZerosiiniFIN I wanna see his down b 😍
The thing with the clones not being echo fighters is usually down to the actual properties of a fighter being super distinct instead of minor changes, such as Dr Mario being heavier and Pichu having self-shock.
Although they have a fairly similar body, I think the amount of moveset differences between Kirby and Waddle Dee (especially Bandana Dee cuz of the spear) would make it really hard to have him as an echo fighter.
Maybe they could get Gooey to be Kirby’s echo? I can see them having a very similar moveset to Kirby (outside of Up-Special, their Inhale ability, and however the dev team decides to handle their basic/smash attacks), but they don’t look very similar to Kirby, so....
Idk, finding an echo for Kirby is hard if you want them to have identical movesets xD
Maskless Meta Knight
I say we could ha e my yarn version, and he just makes the copy abilities out of yarn. His yarn grab would have a slight increase in range on my inhale, but would be out for far shorter as a result.
I think Gooey can definetly work
Gooey can copy abilities like Kirby, so their specials wouldnt be a problem since he can have the same abilities (in this case Rock, Hammer and Cutter) and Smash attacks and basics could just be Gooey smashing his tongue into people instead of Kirby with his foot/"fist"
How about Kirby as his own echo? This Kirby could be a Kirby that has a canon ability. For instance, Fighter Kirby.
@@skillsharekirby2048 i was about to a yarn character from kirbys epic yarn, and also, why cant anybody think of this character, why not prince fluff
Banjo kazooie and yooka laylee
Moveset loosely based on each other
Good idea!
@@jordwxn ahh yes. that one universe where Doki Doki Panic and Donkey Kong Country are in the same series
Joker and Akechi
@@jordwxn Except for the other times in the video where he couldn't do that, so he used things like Luigi and Mario as echo's for Ice Climbers.
It's close enough honestly
Robo banjo from scuttlebug nuts & bolts
JAMES MCLOUD IS LITERALLY THE SAME AS FOX
Yeah, but he is dead
Zero1 ZeroLast they could work their way around that
@@AnrewYT look, I don't want zombie foxs ok. It's bad enough to have real one
Zero1 ZeroLast true all the Star Fox characters are pretty bad in smash bros
@@AnrewYT there only one way to smash, fox, no items, final destanation lol
Title: giving EVERYONE an echo
The Video: Only gives half the roster an echo
3:01 Gooigi who debuted in Luigi’s Mansion 3
Luigi Mansion (remake): Am I a joke to you?
15:42 Machoke/Machamp would work as Incineroar's echo. It can learn Cross Chop (Lv. 60), Revenge (Lv. 1), and Darkest Lariat (TR95)
Oh, this.. this is beautiful.
I like the idea of Machamp being an Incineroar Echo, maybe his Final Smash could be Dynamic Fury, it's Burst Attack from Pokkén Tournament.
I like the idea but there's one problem, and that's the alolan flip. It's basically some form of circle throw already, but how do you adapt that to Machamp?
@@tuvyamaeir4684 Alolan Whip is is pretty much just a normal wrestling move, I could see Machamp using it.
@@tuvyamaeir4684 Alolan Whip isn't even a Pokemon move, it's just a Wrestler Thing.
13:13 Well that's just flat out false.
it honastly feel's like he does little to no research in his video's
No, Rex actually can weild the monado in the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Challenge mode DLC.
Do you think he’d still be a decent echo fighter besides of that (note: I haven’t played Xenoblade 2 so I wouldn’t know)
@@IcyDiamond
No, he would probably be his own character.
@@dogze6744 thanks for the clarification