To be perfectly honest. Zhuelke wasn’t that incompetent. He literally wasn’t allowed to know of traitor astartes and traitor titans. The fleet was completely out of his control. And the administratum decided that somehow a siege didn’t require siege engineers. He did the best with what he had.
Indeed! After all, how could he possibly have accounted for the crafty heretics anticipating his master plan! Luckily, we have a new plan, and it involves marching across no man's land bayonets affixed, exactly like last time. And that is what is so Ingenious about it! It's exactly the last thing the heretics will expect, a fourtieth charge this week, praise the emperor!
Correction: *At no time on during the Siege of Vraks did the Death Korps ever break and run.* What continues to be reported as such is enemy propaganda and misinformation of the worst kind. Each of these reported instances were, in fact, the Death Korps *_enacting a tactical turn and attacking on a new front._*
Man, I was so annoyed when I have to scroll and click through each ep to listen to it while working, but now with this new 2 hours video and the previous Part 1-6 version, I can finally get my job done under the blessing of the Emperor without interruption
Admiral Rasiak reminds me of Lord Nelson in a way, especially with his speech that sounds like “England expects that every man will do his duty” before Trafalgar
His flagship "Lord Belleraphon" is named after one of the more famous British ships (Bellerophon) at Trafalgar. The portrait is similar to Nelson, and fireships were a tactic used by Nelson at the battle of the Nile.
Do not confuse memes with lor. The Death Korps do not fear death but an useless charge that would kill them all before doing any harm to the enemy is retarded... And the Death Korps are not retarded they are one of the most elite guard regiments. They would never throw away their lives just because you tell them too without any effective progress done. Also retreats are not a defeat, many commanders through history have used retreats in order to win battles that was not in their favor at the engagement at the time...
"Ok, men, we're going to mount a major offensive tomorrow." "Where at, sir?" *Points at spot on map marked "Mortuary Ridge"* "Oh." 1:07:40 It pains my soul to hear of Macharius tanks getting destroyed. It's amazing to me that somebody thought a couple Lunar class could tango with a Battleship, especially a Chaos one.
Sorry for the re-upload, someone rightfully pointed out the Big Push Episode 8 was missing from the compilation. Guess I'll have to check the firmware on my servitors to shift the blame from myself....
There’s kind of an amusing paradox hidden in the big push. It was the result of the Imperium putting limits on the manpower Zhulke had available but allowing him access to near unlimited masses of ammunition and weapons. It’s often said the Imperium values a soldiers equipment more than the actual soldier but that is clearly not the case here, it’s especially amusing considering it’s the Death Korp having their lives valued.
Yeh its a funny theme throughout the Siege commanders trying to find bureaucratic loopholes to still win the war. Not just Zuehlke but also Kargori and Inquisitor Rex eventually.
@@JanovichThe true Villain of The Siege of Vraks isn Khrone or the Deamon Summoning Alpha Legion, it's the Bureaucracy and Political end of the Imperium that's the true enemy
Honestly as soon as the chaos forces landed a force that large and the imperials retook the system, I would've evacuated the kriegsmen and then declared exterminatus. I get that it's an armoury world and yes there's a shrine to some saint. However, destroying heretic astartes and traitor titans is worth it, especially with how hard it is for chaos to replace their numbers, that's a pretty big gain for a pretty small loss in the grand scheme of things
@@ntfoperative9432exactly, if the imperium is willing to exterminate dozens of loyal and prosperous imperial worlds over the people of Armageddon going to them, I see absolutely no reason why they can't just blow this one up which is quite literally both a renegade and (basically) chaos world
Vraks is a pretty massive chunk of the imperium's immediate stockpile in the sector, which has the eye of terror very close to it so its pretty much the second most important area to hold. The troops they could kill right there on the ground would be offset by everyone in Cadia having to pull out a calculator before they shoot.
While we know IG Lord Commanders (and Lord Admirals) can declare Exterminatus, even SM Chapter Masters can, you'd have to petition the Ordo Excorium for the means to, and typically Exterminatus, contrary to popular belief, is not something taken lightly. The Imperium does NOT blow up planets for minor grievances. It's only when the planet is irreversibly and catastrophically lost that it becomes necessary. As bad as Vraks was, it was not nearly bad enough to justify destroying the planet. There are also other practical considerations as well, as Exterminatus (even without the gigantic, world destroying bombs that can be used, that are not given out to the imperial navy under normal circumstances, meaning you'd probably need to ask an Inquisitor for the more exotic means) without specialized munitions can be something that requires a significant logistical undertaking to properly accomplish. Many ships at once, possibly hundreds (or perhaps a hundred, it's not entirely clear), firing a huge amount of firepower all at once would be very hard to organize and coordinate. It would take time. Time that could be better spent trying a conventional (by imperial standards) conflict on the planet that isn't yet irreversibly lost.
Whatever Pattern of Cogitators they used to “crunch the numbers” to calculate how long and how much it would take needs to be re-sanctified, that should have been the *minimum* necessary, why they couldn’t add another 1-3 Line Corps to finish things quicker is beyond anyone’s thinking.
"With the Citadel finally in sight, the Siege looked like it was soon comming to an End." *Looks at the video timeline*: 31:26 / 1:57:57 Yeah I don't think that is gonna happen anytime soon. Also to think that all this waste of Resources and Manpower is the fault of the Inquisition hiring the most Incompetent Vindicare Assassin ever Trained.
@@ssjjshawnlisten man I think they deserve being called incompentent for not researching his target enough to know he got a damn Forcefield and prepare for that! Dude was just showing off how cool he can sit in a spot for a couple days lol
@@MrDefender1234 The video didn't go over the more interesting details of the assassination attempt. Basically, the Vindicare was sitting there for days on end, trying to get the perfect shot because Cardinal Xaphan was so paranoid he wouldn't show himself in public. So, when the time came for the shot, the Vindicare had to take it by firing a bullet through an ornamental marble pillar. Now, normally this would kill someone outright, but it wasn't enough because it should've been a shield penetrator round to take out the rosarius he was wearing. But of course, the assassin had no idea that Xaphan had access to the (already rare) rosarius shield generator, and as a result failed in his task.
@@kevincass9917 I am aware that this dude probably landed a crazy shot and waited for days but I am also pretty sure it's part of your Job as an Assassin is to find out if a Target has any sort of Shield Generator or not. So my point them being Incompetent still stands.
A regular guardsman: oh no, look Gary, they have chainswords, we're going to die! A random kriegsman: Günter, look zei have chainswords, i waiter zis moment my entire life, get ze shovels!!!
There’s probably at least one soldier that survived their initial front line assignments and got promoted to a logistics role only for their regiments combat elements to be wiped out in a wider offensive. A “protected” position followed by a significant time waiting for the regiment to reconstitute while maybe doing odd jobs on the supply network probably means you could survive for more than a few years despite being a Krieger on Vraks.This also comes with the caveat that survivors are going to be given a command role in the newly rebuilt regiment and that’s basically a death sentence because the death korps expects commanders to be front and centre of the most critical and lethal offensive’s. Basically a Death Korp general is luckier than the Master Chief but they won’t ever try to quit while they are ahead and will just keep rolling the dice till they get all ones. So no, there were probably no Kriegers who survived the entire duration of the campaign if their unit was on the ground for the whole conflict. Also if you were a Krieger on Vraks why would you be worried about survival? The Kriegers want to die for the Emperor, a survivor of such a lethal conflict is surely a failure who had the opportunity to atone but ran to preserve their own life instead.
By all other guard standards, that's one incredibly lucky soldier. Any good Krieger that survived that long, however, would consider it the very height of BAD luck.
If one of them did. He's either of a very high rank, really lucky or secretly just a Katachan jungle fighter in a gas mask doing his best to speak in a german accent
This is the first series I watched of yours and I'm really impressed. Your narration and animations are engaging and very well done. Looking forward to more of this and of your videos!
I love this. Being new to the whole Warhammer thing, seeing this is really cool. I love strategic displays of battles (like Kings and Generals) and this is dragging me even further into the pit hole that is Warhammer. Immediately subbed when I saw the first part Also love the Kriegs
The fleet believed it to be a plan to get inside the walls then wreck havoc. The Astartes are known for attacks like that. Also its the Alpha Legion their damn good at doing what they did in the video.
jesus christ they did the dark Angels really dirty. And why the fuck Azrael almost lost his life for a fucking standard? For sure I can't believe the codex astartes contains directive to hold a standard at the price of astartes lives
Standards especially for dark angels are multi millennium old near magical objects of religious significance basiclly the entire pride of a company made into a single object whole companies of SM or Regiments of gaurd have been given to their recovery It's extremely telling to just how fast his squad was wiped out that it was allowed to fall in the first place
This isn't doing the Dark Angels dirty, this is who the Dark Angels really always where. Lion being a stand up guy in the new lore is a direct retcon, he was always a self centered piece of shit who sided with the Imperium purely because they won in the beginning. His kids were much the same
They were looking for fallen hit the ground, took nearly 50% causalities in one engagement, and found no fallen and withdrew That is the defninifition of lighting strike marine doctire and is exactly what is expected of space marine chapters
It would be nice if you do two epizode in next month.. this is torture,fealing is like deth korp waiting in trench and never go acros no man land..give us the stufff
Conductor of the supply train probably took one look at the titans and said "Oh hell no, you bastards can walk. Believe it or not there is a weight limit."
I think I waited almost a year for This third to come out. Do I have to wait yet? Another year to finally be able to watch the full Battle here? I don't get me wrong. I've already listened to it in a far more detail to someone else. Who I think spent 8 to 12 hours on this battle. He also did the war for a dog both were fantastic listens
Ironic as Krieger uniforms, colour and armour is very French. French doctrine in WW1 is far closer to Krieg then the German Schlieffen plan or Kaiserschlacht.
@@TotalTirpitzkrieg were meant to be German, the word "krieg" itself was from a German word, as for their uniform colour, im not sure, they can be blue or grey, sometimes green
@@NapoleonBonaparte-of4sl eh, its more accurate to say krieg are the "ww1" faction rather than a specific nation. The helmet is French, the putties are british/american, the uniform itself is more German/French, the name is german, and the tactics take from the stereotypical ww1 western front idea; with some of the more advanced ones like bite and hold being seen in some of the novels (a nominally british tactic at inception).
So minor spoilers. All told the imperium will take 14 million casualties on Vraks In WW1 20 Million deaths and 21 million wounded. So you may want to inflate the numbers given from GW for it to make sense. 😅
Scale is always the problem. Units are given at ridiculous numbers, yet commanded personally by a colonel, 3 lieutenants and 6 sergeants. World's that are so deadly any population would have a negative pop. growth can field near infinite armies. And when they create a truly horrific, genocidal war on a scale that surpasses most real world wars in length they fail by giving casualty numbers that are smaller than real world numbers.
Science fiction in general is notorious for its writers having no sense of scale. Arch included some of his notes at the end of his series on Vraks, and mentioned that he'd had to massage some of the numbers to get them to remain consistent across the whole story, like a company of Death Riders losing thousands of men in taking a hill during a reference to The Charge of the Light Brigade, or warships getting into fights at ranges anywhere from "visual with the naked eye" to "multiple light-seconds". Oh well, at least it's better than the Clone Wars, where the Grand Army of the Republic, built to fight hundreds of major battles across the entire galaxy simultaneously, would at peak manpower be considered one of the mid-sized participants in WW2.
they had 6.2 million clones. In WW2 Soviets had 6.4 million which was the largest army. Also in the StarWars Universe, space battles are more important, if you have control of the space surrounding the planet you basically control the planet, so the need for ground forces is not as important. Also WW2 was fought on a large front spanning hundreds of miles. Thats not how most battles work in StarWars. Usually battles are fought over one important place on the planet. For example the battle of genosis the clone army did not have to take over the entire planet just the droid factories. Another thing, WW2 was fought with relatively simple technology, compared to StarWars. And they had Jedi too. 1 jedi is worth something like 100 clones and there were like 100s of jedis. But yeah I agree in general 6.2 million is nothing for an entire galaxy. A more reasonable number would be something like 100 million.@@tba113
Fine. I admit it. I’m addicted and fascinated by 40k lore. Fuck me. Emperor be praised! I’ll be ordering and painting these things next……shit. I really dig the Death Korps of Krieg.
Be careful krieg is the most expensive army to collect by far. I'd suggest buying french/German WW1 wargaming figures instead and kit bashing them together
Zuehlke was like a Simmerson, but a more-honourable, fatter version. I will not fault him for playing the,"I have a cousin in the Horse Guards, I'll have you know!" card, he played it right, and he was insufficiently prepped doctrinally. The fault lays with Terran High-Command on that one, hubris at the top condemned the Death Korps - not Zuehlke.
I feel like they should of used the spaceships to soften defences alright they have lasers but torps or something should get threw and where are the cruise/ deathstrike missles to smash the lines
Vraks is so inconsistent. They stockpile more ammo than ever, then run out immediately. The ground is loose stoney solid pumice. Then its suddenly muddy enough to drown in. The Deathkorps never break or retreat even wounded behind enemy lines. Then retreat en masse and hide, even killing officers to avoid combat. Bruh.
Zhuekle was beyond incompetent. If He Had planned for the Engineers to be at the siege from the start and brought some AA for Cover Just in Case. Vraks would have fallen in time. To me the siege seems too constructed by fanfiction fir the sake of one upping the 40k by just another senseless siege and heroic actions for more background law.
The resources and manpower of the big push should be focused on one front or as few fronts as possible so that the assaulting force would be much stable and organized and thats why the big push failed
Curious as to what source they have that says arkos and the alpha legion landed at the starport and waltzed into the citadel. Currently reading through the "imperial armour Vol. 5 siege of Vraks part 1" and it's texts in chapter 4: war of attrition, page 47, subsection: A NEW THREAT, paragraph 5 while it says arkos and the alpha legion "...landed his battle brothers at the star port." It then goes on to state "disguised as newly deployed space Marines they had infiltrated through the krieg lines and, under the guise of launching an attack, crossed no-mans land to reach the enemy side , before making for the citadel." Just that the krieg had no lines anywhere near the starport leads me to believe the starport was a misprint and they meant landing zone in the krieg area. Since they posed as loyalist to be in and exit the krieg lines and it says the crossed no-mans land they couldn't have possibly landed at the starport because that area really didn't have a no mans land around it since by the time the second defensive ring fell and the krieg had access to the starport it was already destroyed by the dark angels. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on anything, trying to figure it out myself still. Loved the videos, they actually made me go out and hunt down the imperial armour book I cited
Hey man you're 100% right. The official text is weird on that. To solve that I sometimes have to take some creative liberties to have the videos make sense. Especially from the top down perspective stuff has to make sense cause otherwise it just looks weird. Choosing to land at the starport was pretty risky considering the anti-air defenses. It would indeed have made more sense to land in the krieg landing zones and march through the lines as you suggest. Instead I chose to go with them landing at the the Starport as the text say, and implied they had some sort of pre-made deal with Mamom not to fire on them, and make them march into the citadel from the south cause if they landed there I didn't see a reason for them to go through the krieg lines at all anymore. Appreciate your considerations and hope you like my solution. There's a few more of these throughout the series you'll eventually spot I'm sure.
@@Janovich no problem, and thanks for the answer. I wasn't trying to call you out by any means. On the contrary, I was actually hoping you had other sources that I was not aware of; because, I wanted more information hahah. Loved the series, and dove into a bunch of your other videos too. Keep up the fine work!
![Death Korps of Krieg [WH40K SFM ANIMATION]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hmv9YA2pS-g/mqdefault.jpg)
To be perfectly honest. Zhuelke wasn’t that incompetent. He literally wasn’t allowed to know of traitor astartes and traitor titans. The fleet was completely out of his control. And the administratum decided that somehow a siege didn’t require siege engineers. He did the best with what he had.
Indeed! After all, how could he possibly have accounted for the crafty heretics anticipating his master plan! Luckily, we have a new plan, and it involves marching across no man's land bayonets affixed, exactly like last time. And that is what is so Ingenious about it! It's exactly the last thing the heretics will expect, a fourtieth charge this week, praise the emperor!
Except when it actually worked with fort-453
@@videoputin Exactly!
@@loiu657 not exactly like he was provided the resources to do anything else. he wasnt even given engineers. for a siege
@@thatoneguy5856 making a joke reference :)
Correction: *At no time on during the Siege of Vraks did the Death Korps ever break and run.* What continues to be reported as such is enemy propaganda and misinformation of the worst kind. Each of these reported instances were, in fact, the Death Korps *_enacting a tactical turn and attacking on a new front._*
Alpha legion at work.
The lies of heretics and vile traitors reach far and wide. Even in well meaning vox casts.
Nah I saw them retreat and they told me not to tell or they'd bash me.
@@Dingusmaninguswe are gonna bash you
@@bestdad1333 😭
Man, I was so annoyed when I have to scroll and click through each ep to listen to it while working, but now with this new 2 hours video and the previous Part 1-6 version, I can finally get my job done under the blessing of the Emperor without interruption
if only there was some kind of ancient technology called a playlist...
FOR THE EMPIROR !
I still wonder how the Alpha Legion managed to disappear.
Teleport? Tunnels? Sorcery...a spray bottle of green paint?
the other player rage quit and left with his army mid game
It's actually purple paint
@@elvastan And that would make Dark Angels believe that they are fellow Dark Angels?
@@SirMarshalHaig Purple iz da sneakiest kolour. Kourse da spikez would uze it!
@@elvastan So the Alpha Legion tried to infiltrate the Dark Angels and found that the orcs had beat them to it?
Admiral Rasiak reminds me of Lord Nelson in a way, especially with his speech that sounds like “England expects that every man will do his duty” before Trafalgar
His flagship "Lord Belleraphon" is named after one of the more famous British ships (Bellerophon) at Trafalgar. The portrait is similar to Nelson, and fireships were a tactic used by Nelson at the battle of the Nile.
@@Ahrlin9 he IS nelson....in spaaaaace.
@@viridisxiv766 with a splash of Yi Sun Sin
the fact that the big push was so intense it made some Krieg soldiers retreat is a testament of how horrifying that fight was.
tactical reposition orders
No Krieg soldier has ever "retreated"
@@samalcatraz8751 and lived*
Please report to the nearest Inquisition office for rehabilitation.
Do not confuse memes with lor. The Death Korps do not fear death but an useless charge that would kill them all before doing any harm to the enemy is retarded... And the Death Korps are not retarded they are one of the most elite guard regiments.
They would never throw away their lives just because you tell them too without any effective progress done. Also retreats are not a defeat, many commanders through history have used retreats in order to win battles that was not in their favor at the engagement at the time...
"Ok, men, we're going to mount a major offensive tomorrow."
"Where at, sir?"
*Points at spot on map marked "Mortuary Ridge"*
"Oh."
1:07:40 It pains my soul to hear of Macharius tanks getting destroyed.
It's amazing to me that somebody thought a couple Lunar class could tango with a Battleship, especially a Chaos one.
Gotta remember, basically none of their crews knew that that "especially" was even a _thing..._
@@seand.g423 Fair enough. Their Captains, however, did.
Sorry for the re-upload, someone rightfully pointed out the Big Push Episode 8 was missing from the compilation.
Guess I'll have to check the firmware on my servitors to shift the blame from myself....
Stupid servitors... always causing issues. Should never have trusted that letter from the esteemed Nigerian prince...
raises an eye in inquisitor... "hmmm, maybe choas interference?" *loads bolter*
Oh well, better watch it again then, to make sure you..the servitor didn't forget it again.
wELL SAid! lmao
This is amazing thank you for what you do I remember when you only had a few thousand subscribers and now over 100 k it’s been a wild ride
"How bad can it be?"
"Sir the Krieg soldiers are retreating"
"wut?"
“Kriegers are retreating” is on par with “Waffle House is closed” on the excrement-and-fan scale. This is world is ending statement.
Oh no...
There’s kind of an amusing paradox hidden in the big push. It was the result of the Imperium putting limits on the manpower Zhulke had available but allowing him access to near unlimited masses of ammunition and weapons.
It’s often said the Imperium values a soldiers equipment more than the actual soldier but that is clearly not the case here, it’s especially amusing considering it’s the Death Korp having their lives valued.
Yeh its a funny theme throughout the Siege commanders trying to find bureaucratic loopholes to still win the war. Not just Zuehlke but also Kargori and Inquisitor Rex eventually.
@@JanovichThe true Villain of The Siege of Vraks isn Khrone or the Deamon Summoning Alpha Legion, it's the Bureaucracy and Political end of the Imperium that's the true enemy
@@ssjjshawnisn’t that the enemy of all governments?
Honestly as soon as the chaos forces landed a force that large and the imperials retook the system, I would've evacuated the kriegsmen and then declared exterminatus. I get that it's an armoury world and yes there's a shrine to some saint. However, destroying heretic astartes and traitor titans is worth it, especially with how hard it is for chaos to replace their numbers, that's a pretty big gain for a pretty small loss in the grand scheme of things
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t, the Inquisition is very liberal with the usage of Exterminatus
@@ntfoperative9432exactly, if the imperium is willing to exterminate dozens of loyal and prosperous imperial worlds over the people of Armageddon going to them, I see absolutely no reason why they can't just blow this one up which is quite literally both a renegade and (basically) chaos world
Vraks is a pretty massive chunk of the imperium's immediate stockpile in the sector, which has the eye of terror very close to it so its pretty much the second most important area to hold. The troops they could kill right there on the ground would be offset by everyone in Cadia having to pull out a calculator before they shoot.
@@ntfoperative9432that's a meme and not reflective of the lore at all.
While we know IG Lord Commanders (and Lord Admirals) can declare Exterminatus, even SM Chapter Masters can, you'd have to petition the Ordo Excorium for the means to, and typically Exterminatus, contrary to popular belief, is not something taken lightly.
The Imperium does NOT blow up planets for minor grievances. It's only when the planet is irreversibly and catastrophically lost that it becomes necessary. As bad as Vraks was, it was not nearly bad enough to justify destroying the planet.
There are also other practical considerations as well, as Exterminatus (even without the gigantic, world destroying bombs that can be used, that are not given out to the imperial navy under normal circumstances, meaning you'd probably need to ask an Inquisitor for the more exotic means) without specialized munitions can be something that requires a significant logistical undertaking to properly accomplish.
Many ships at once, possibly hundreds (or perhaps a hundred, it's not entirely clear), firing a huge amount of firepower all at once would be very hard to organize and coordinate. It would take time. Time that could be better spent trying a conventional (by imperial standards) conflict on the planet that isn't yet irreversibly lost.
1:18:10 - 1:18:40 the mental imagines this evokes give CHILLS
I love how the angels of death just bust in, fuck everything up, and leave without elaborating further.
Typical Space Marine moment.
Typical Worst Loyal Legion type shit
Whatever Pattern of Cogitators they used to “crunch the numbers” to calculate how long and how much it would take needs to be re-sanctified, that should have been the *minimum* necessary, why they couldn’t add another 1-3 Line Corps to finish things quicker is beyond anyone’s thinking.
This is Warhammer. Everyone's at war, especially the Empire.
This is such a good editing style and video. I really like listening to these while studying, just a nice subtle voice explaining the lore of 40K. 🤙🤙
"With the Citadel finally in sight, the Siege looked like it was soon comming to an End."
*Looks at the video timeline*: 31:26 / 1:57:57
Yeah I don't think that is gonna happen anytime soon.
Also to think that all this waste of Resources and Manpower is the fault of the Inquisition hiring the most Incompetent Vindicare Assassin ever Trained.
Lmao right??? Should had sent 2 assasins
A million plus deaths just cuzz the assassin couldn't kill the leader
Even then the Assassin wasn't even incompetent, just supremely unlucky
@@ssjjshawnlisten man I think they deserve being called incompentent for not researching his target enough to know he got a damn Forcefield and prepare for that!
Dude was just showing off how cool he can sit in a spot for a couple days lol
@@MrDefender1234 The video didn't go over the more interesting details of the assassination attempt. Basically, the Vindicare was sitting there for days on end, trying to get the perfect shot because Cardinal Xaphan was so paranoid he wouldn't show himself in public. So, when the time came for the shot, the Vindicare had to take it by firing a bullet through an ornamental marble pillar. Now, normally this would kill someone outright, but it wasn't enough because it should've been a shield penetrator round to take out the rosarius he was wearing. But of course, the assassin had no idea that Xaphan had access to the (already rare) rosarius shield generator, and as a result failed in his task.
@@kevincass9917 I am aware that this dude probably landed a crazy shot and waited for days but I am also pretty sure it's part of your Job as an Assassin is to find out if a Target has any sort of Shield Generator or not. So my point them being Incompetent still stands.
I can almost feel the despair of the korps at 1:11:00, with the sound of chain swords. So awesome man!
A regular guardsman: oh no, look Gary, they have chainswords, we're going to die!
A random kriegsman: Günter, look zei have chainswords, i waiter zis moment my entire life, get ze shovels!!!
Emperor's blessings upon you, my friend! And one step closer in vanquishing the heretics from Vraks!
i wonder if any krieger has actually survived the start to the end of the siege of vraks
If they had then they would 100% be promoted to a leading roll
There’s probably at least one soldier that survived their initial front line assignments and got promoted to a logistics role only for their regiments combat elements to be wiped out in a wider offensive. A “protected” position followed by a significant time waiting for the regiment to reconstitute while maybe doing odd jobs on the supply network probably means you could survive for more than a few years despite being a Krieger on Vraks.This also comes with the caveat that survivors are going to be given a command role in the newly rebuilt regiment and that’s basically a death sentence because the death korps expects commanders to be front and centre of the most critical and lethal offensive’s.
Basically a Death Korp general is luckier than the Master Chief but they won’t ever try to quit while they are ahead and will just keep rolling the dice till they get all ones. So no, there were probably no Kriegers who survived the entire duration of the campaign if their unit was on the ground for the whole conflict.
Also if you were a Krieger on Vraks why would you be worried about survival? The Kriegers want to die for the Emperor, a survivor of such a lethal conflict is surely a failure who had the opportunity to atone but ran to preserve their own life instead.
By all other guard standards, that's one incredibly lucky soldier. Any good Krieger that survived that long, however, would consider it the very height of BAD luck.
If one of them did. He's either of a very high rank, really lucky or secretly just a Katachan jungle fighter in a gas mask doing his best to speak in a german accent
@@robertsprankle6127 THIS.
I was thinking about the same thing. Like, would a krieger want to have survived from start to end?
This is the first series I watched of yours and I'm really impressed. Your narration and animations are engaging and very well done. Looking forward to more of this and of your videos!
Iron Warriors and the Alpa Legion are truly the Workhorses of the Chaos(Marine) Forces.
Please do a Badab War series in the future!
Ugh - please don't. Hearing Luft Huron get screwed over by the Imperial political machine makes my blood boil.
and armaggeddon.
@@sasha1mamaGOOD.
@@sasha1mamaSounds like traitor drivel to me.
@@sasha1mama #AstralClawsDidNothingWrong
(except for the whole 'betraying the Imperium because some guy wanted to LARP as a primarch' thing)
Glad you managed to get this out at last, bud. Kept us waitin'.
Don‘t be impatient, your demands are unfounded as this is not a service you have paid for.
@@User-ic1uq he’s being enthusiastic get a grip
This series deserves much more attention, great job !
I love this. Being new to the whole Warhammer thing, seeing this is really cool. I love strategic displays of battles (like Kings and Generals) and this is dragging me even further into the pit hole that is Warhammer. Immediately subbed when I saw the first part
Also love the Kriegs
These videos are absolutely excellent and are my favorite type of video. Thank you so much for making these.
Can't wait for the next few parts I have a feeling they gonna be good
Hey, a good summary of the siege :D
One that doesn't take 36 straight hours to watch through.
*cough cough.
Not yet 36 hours atleast
Don't worry, it'll take 36 hours eventually
I love the way you tell the story of these battles.
When the manbear appeared and closed the Eye of terror, i was indeed relieved
An astartes Battle Barge has joined the fleet, descended towards the wrong landing site and nobody asked any questions...
The fleet believed it to be a plan to get inside the walls then wreck havoc. The Astartes are known for attacks like that.
Also its the Alpha Legion their damn good at doing what they did in the video.
I absolutely love this channel. I have been looking for one like it for a long time. Please keep up the amazing work.
Perfect timing right as I finished parts 1-6
You know its bad when you are at part 7 out of 12 and see the video of 13-18 still comming up and 4 more hours to watch!
jesus christ they did the dark Angels really dirty. And why the fuck Azrael almost lost his life for a fucking standard? For sure I can't believe the codex astartes contains directive to hold a standard at the price of astartes lives
Do you know of any good Azrael storylines? Dark angels are dope
The Space Book (the codex) would not approve this. Also the ultramarines would give the Dark Angels a good spanking
Standards especially for dark angels are multi millennium old near magical objects of religious significance basiclly the entire pride of a company made into a single object whole companies of SM or Regiments of gaurd have been given to their recovery
It's extremely telling to just how fast his squad was wiped out that it was allowed to fall in the first place
This isn't doing the Dark Angels dirty, this is who the Dark Angels really always where. Lion being a stand up guy in the new lore is a direct retcon, he was always a self centered piece of shit who sided with the Imperium purely because they won in the beginning. His kids were much the same
I love how 40k will require almost 3 hours of lore just to scrape the surface of one battle😂
I’m willing to sacrifice that time
The Horus heresy one is cool but the siege of vraks is much more interesting hahah
Having this much detail of this story is fantastic. Great video series! ❤
What the dark angels did was cowardly and absolutely unacceptable of a space marine.
Welcome to the dark angels, chapter of fuckery, arrogance and narcissism.
They were looking for fallen hit the ground, took nearly 50% causalities in one engagement, and found no fallen and withdrew
That is the defninifition of lighting strike marine doctire and is exactly what is expected of space marine chapters
@@awaldo2848yeah but there was the fact they didn’t at least leave a few squads to help put the kriegsmen.
dark angels have always been trash, more occupied with cleaning up their own dirty laundry than actually supporting the empire they claim to serve.
That's pretty on brand for Dark Angels. They are obsessed with the fallen and often abandon imperials to go and chase after them.
1:37:47 ecclesiarchy demanding command over a botched siege that was caused by a rouge member of the ecclesiarchy only makes sense in 40k
A red member of the Ecclesiarchy? That was also French?
FINNALLY I CAN CONSUME THE BEST CONTENT AGAIN
This is such good quality, you deserve so many views!
been waiting for this. The emperor’s light shines upon you brother.
It would be nice if you do two epizode in next month.. this is torture,fealing is like deth korp waiting in trench and never go acros no man land..give us the stufff
Another awesome video compilation!
So, That's Where Captain Fordor came from... Good to know.
"Revenge for Hanz!" Damn, now that's a callback!
the emperor has blessed me with this vox transmission. praise be to the emperor, and let the emperor bless you brother.
Conductor of the supply train probably took one look at the titans and said "Oh hell no, you bastards can walk. Believe it or not there is a weight limit."
amazing work! loved it! movie about this would be so awesome!
Excellent summary!
If Kriegers are retreating you know you did something wrong
You know the shit is intense when the Kriegsmen start shooting the commissars to retreat
I think I waited almost a year for This third to come out. Do I have to wait yet? Another year to finally be able to watch the full Battle here? I don't get me wrong. I've already listened to it in a far more detail to someone else. Who I think spent 8 to 12 hours on this battle. He also did the war for a dog both were fantastic listens
Simply Incredible work.
Too late, i already depicted the vraksians as french.
A fate deserving of the vraxian traitors
Ironic as Krieger uniforms, colour and armour is very French. French doctrine in WW1 is far closer to Krieg then the German Schlieffen plan or Kaiserschlacht.
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@@TotalTirpitzkrieg were meant to be German, the word "krieg" itself was from a German word, as for their uniform colour, im not sure, they can be blue or grey, sometimes green
@@NapoleonBonaparte-of4sl eh, its more accurate to say krieg are the "ww1" faction rather than a specific nation. The helmet is French, the putties are british/american, the uniform itself is more German/French, the name is german, and the tactics take from the stereotypical ww1 western front idea; with some of the more advanced ones like bite and hold being seen in some of the novels (a nominally british tactic at inception).
A time stamp for the episodes were cool
Man those anti-air and orbital defense cannons are really bad against space marines.
So minor spoilers.
All told the imperium will take 14 million casualties on Vraks
In WW1 20 Million deaths and 21 million wounded.
So you may want to inflate the numbers given from GW for it to make sense. 😅
Scale is always the problem. Units are given at ridiculous numbers, yet commanded personally by a colonel, 3 lieutenants and 6 sergeants. World's that are so deadly any population would have a negative pop. growth can field near infinite armies. And when they create a truly horrific, genocidal war on a scale that surpasses most real world wars in length they fail by giving casualty numbers that are smaller than real world numbers.
Science fiction in general is notorious for its writers having no sense of scale. Arch included some of his notes at the end of his series on Vraks, and mentioned that he'd had to massage some of the numbers to get them to remain consistent across the whole story, like a company of Death Riders losing thousands of men in taking a hill during a reference to The Charge of the Light Brigade, or warships getting into fights at ranges anywhere from "visual with the naked eye" to "multiple light-seconds".
Oh well, at least it's better than the Clone Wars, where the Grand Army of the Republic, built to fight hundreds of major battles across the entire galaxy simultaneously, would at peak manpower be considered one of the mid-sized participants in WW2.
they had 6.2 million clones. In WW2 Soviets had 6.4 million which was the largest army. Also in the StarWars Universe, space battles are more important, if you have control of the space surrounding the planet you basically control the planet, so the need for ground forces is not as important. Also WW2 was fought on a large front spanning hundreds of miles. Thats not how most battles work in StarWars. Usually battles are fought over one important place on the planet. For example the battle of genosis the clone army did not have to take over the entire planet just the droid factories. Another thing, WW2 was fought with relatively simple technology, compared to StarWars. And they had Jedi too. 1 jedi is worth something like 100 clones and there were like 100s of jedis. But yeah I agree in general 6.2 million is nothing for an entire galaxy. A more reasonable number would be something like 100 million.@@tba113
Yeah when I first heard the casualty count I was shocked it was so low. Especially for the Death Korps of Krieg
Vraks was only fought over a single city, ww1 was fought over an entire continent so it makes a bit more sense, but is still pretty silly
Great stuff really well done
Thank you my man
Great storytelling.
If the Kriegers are retreating you know the fight is beyond gruesome
Dark Angels, show up. Achieve nothing. Leave.
Sounds about right for Dark Angels.
When the Dark Angel's get involved just except shit to go south for everyone involved. This is something I have learned.
Wow the more i heard about 40k lore, the more i understand traiter space marine😢😂😊
Actually, the death corps didn't retreat and kill the commissar, they actually wanted to attack and they killed the comissar that tried to stop them
Yesss the long form
Never send 500 dark angels to do a job meant for 3 named ultramarines
Fine. I admit it. I’m addicted and fascinated by 40k lore. Fuck me. Emperor be praised! I’ll be ordering and painting these things next……shit. I really dig the Death Korps of Krieg.
Be careful krieg is the most expensive army to collect by far. I'd suggest buying french/German WW1 wargaming figures instead and kit bashing them together
"Our Emperor never fail us and that siege was won already...
Zuehlke was like a Simmerson, but a more-honourable, fatter version. I will not fault him for playing the,"I have a cousin in the Horse Guards, I'll have you know!" card, he played it right, and he was insufficiently prepped doctrinally. The fault lays with Terran High-Command on that one, hubris at the top condemned the Death Korps - not Zuehlke.
I feel like they should of used the spaceships to soften defences alright they have lasers but torps or something should get threw and where are the cruise/ deathstrike missles to smash the lines
The Dark Angels could have ended the battle. Then, Chaos came.
Alpha Legion stories almost always reads as bad fanboy fanfiction. They are truly the most munchkin of all chapters.
this is how it feels playing fading suns game on pc
Let’s gooo! Binge time
Good to retreat because there’s difference between in wasting lives and spending the right amount of lives.
4 month we are asking for horus heresey
22:40 - Pickett's Charge (WH40k style)
I've noticed a lot of stuff like that in 40k.
Like, this significant historical event, or this significant philisophical discussion IN SPACE!!
Vraks is so inconsistent. They stockpile more ammo than ever, then run out immediately. The ground is loose stoney solid pumice. Then its suddenly muddy enough to drown in. The Deathkorps never break or retreat even wounded behind enemy lines. Then retreat en masse and hide, even killing officers to avoid combat.
Bruh.
Did anyone else notice the “I am Alphari” at 3:30 what was that? Who is Alphari?
alpharius
strikeforce alpha 20 is an alpha legion joke
Amazing
Just a pity that imperial history didn't remember the somme.
Fantasticoooo!!!!!
Can I ask how you make these videos and what tools you use for them. I am in love with the design.
after effects
@@Janovich Thank you for the response, did you take any online courses or is it all self taught?
learned basics in school then continued learning on my own@@mikkel066h
i love you video you need to hier someone to help you make these so you can make more
I would love to play a cod style fps based on this siege.
I would just like a battlefield type 40K game. That would be fuckin awesome
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Zhuekle was beyond incompetent. If He Had planned for the Engineers to be at the siege from the start and brought some AA for Cover Just in Case. Vraks would have fallen in time. To me the siege seems too constructed by fanfiction fir the sake of one upping the 40k by just another senseless siege and heroic actions for more background law.
It was this, this campaign, that forever tainted the Dark Angels in my eyes.
Absolutely shameful display.
Retreat... Hell we just got here lol
Admiral Mahzur went out like an absolute moron tbh.
TP III sounds almost as bad as the Life Eater Virus that Horus used at Istvaan.
The resources and manpower of the big push should be focused on one front or as few fronts as possible so that the assaulting force would be much stable and organized and thats why the big push failed
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Well, at least he won't have to attend his court martial case and died a hero 29:43
nice
Curious as to what source they have that says arkos and the alpha legion landed at the starport and waltzed into the citadel. Currently reading through the "imperial armour Vol. 5 siege of Vraks part 1" and it's texts in chapter 4: war of attrition, page 47, subsection: A NEW THREAT, paragraph 5 while it says arkos and the alpha legion "...landed his battle brothers at the star port." It then goes on to state "disguised as newly deployed space Marines they had infiltrated through the krieg lines and, under the guise of launching an attack, crossed no-mans land to reach the enemy side , before making for the citadel."
Just that the krieg had no lines anywhere near the starport leads me to believe the starport was a misprint and they meant landing zone in the krieg area. Since they posed as loyalist to be in and exit the krieg lines and it says the crossed no-mans land they couldn't have possibly landed at the starport because that area really didn't have a no mans land around it since by the time the second defensive ring fell and the krieg had access to the starport it was already destroyed by the dark angels.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on anything, trying to figure it out myself still. Loved the videos, they actually made me go out and hunt down the imperial armour book I cited
Hey man you're 100% right. The official text is weird on that. To solve that I sometimes have to take some creative liberties to have the videos make sense. Especially from the top down perspective stuff has to make sense cause otherwise it just looks weird. Choosing to land at the starport was pretty risky considering the anti-air defenses. It would indeed have made more sense to land in the krieg landing zones and march through the lines as you suggest.
Instead I chose to go with them landing at the the Starport as the text say, and implied they had some sort of pre-made deal with Mamom not to fire on them, and make them march into the citadel from the south cause if they landed there I didn't see a reason for them to go through the krieg lines at all anymore.
Appreciate your considerations and hope you like my solution. There's a few more of these throughout the series you'll eventually spot I'm sure.
@@Janovich no problem, and thanks for the answer. I wasn't trying to call you out by any means. On the contrary, I was actually hoping you had other sources that I was not aware of; because, I wanted more information hahah. Loved the series, and dove into a bunch of your other videos too. Keep up the fine work!