My sister was diagnosed with BPD in her teens, she almost destroyed our family. We walked on eggshells around her. She would turn on you, hit you and insult you and a few hours later she would act as if nothing happened. She has mellowed some in her later years, but this disorder is devastating.
@@jescorneliussen6761I agree, my grand mother and her sister both were sychzophrenic, genetic side. Plus my sister was a cry baby. The doctor at the time told my mom to put her in a pram in the kitchen and close the door. Doubt that was good. She was always difficult, the Black sheep of the family. I know she cant help it but I keep my distance as much as I can. She has done so much harm, not just to me. It is hard....😢
I have BPD and it’s people like Amber Heard that give us a bad name! I said to my psychiatrist that I don’t want to be like her and she laughed. The are so many ways the disorder can manifest and it’s our behaviour and the choices that we make that define us, not the diagnosis.
It’s being more thought of as C-PTSD - and Amber is therefore misdiagnosed where she is actually a pathological narcissist. Researchers are more often saying BPD is either C-PTSD, or narcissist - depending on the traits. C-PTSD individuals can have narcissistic traits, like most people anyway, but they are NOT pathological narcissists. Amber Heard is definitely a narcissist: blame shifting, word salads, gas lighting, lack of empathy(despite her lies on the stand), pathological liar, appetite for drama and of course daily need for narcissistic fuel/supply.
One of my best friends has BPD and my friend is miles away from Ambers behavior. In my opinion Amber "Rottenborn" reminds me of a real sadist. Take care Vicky. In my opinion BPD can be a gift the day you know how to deal with it as all other stuff we people have to live with ....
I agree I have it and I am nothing like her. You can control your anger if on right medication and therapy. I don’t use drugs, drink or gamble and have been in a stable relationship for 14 years and have never cheated.
Thank you so much and the worst part is, that this is only gonna make us look like we’re the abusers in every situation, although we’re the ones, who often fall for abusers.
I suffer from BPD (also ptsd and psychotic depression). The moment I began reading about AH and her behaviours, I said to my husband she has BPD. A little way into the trial it was confirmed. Its frightening to watch her self destruct. Before treatment (8+ years of therapy, good medications that work for me and a wonderfully supportive partner and friends) I honestly believe I would have gone down the same path as her. I have BPD but could NEVER harm my partner how she has JD. I have genuine worries about how her diagnosis will affect the BPD community. Most BPD sufferers are just abused children who are emotionally stunted. During flares, my partner and friends have said I behave like a tantruming 6 year old, not a person with sinister and cruel motives. Not all BPD sufferers are like AH.
@@laaaah4577 sadly people with BPD can be very manipulative, narcissistic and malicious, just like people without BPD van be. I think the important thing to take from this is get treatment and take responsibility. I have done some awful things and at one point was walking a very dangerous path. Treatment saved my life.
I'm so glad you have that support and have found a path through. I lost a very good friend a few years ago who had BPD - undiagnosed until she was in her 30s - and to my mind, she hurt herself more than she hurt those around her. I wish she'd been diagnosed earlier and I wish the mental health services had been better equipped to assist her. I also wish I'd understood more at the time.
I’m currently divorcing a diagnosed borderline/histrionic. I can completely relate to what Johnny Depp has been through. It’s hard for me to listen to her testimony because it’s so very obvious to me, and it’s makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
I' d like to point out that people with BPD can also be empathetic, sincerely loving, and caring when they aren't having a meltdown; and not in a manipulative way. My daughter is classic BPD. She went many years with a bipolar diagnosis but that simply didn't cover the whole story. I understand that she may be both borderline and bipolar which may very well be. My main point is that after rages and meltdowns she feels terrible and us apologetic. From the little I have seen of Amber it doesn't seem she has any remorse for or take any responsibility for any things she had done. She seems to be a malignant narcissist.
@@laaaah4577 the point Im making iscthat Amber doesnt seem to hava an empathetic or caring bone in hee body. She ssems to be a straiggt- up malignant narcissist; any charm or apparent seeming to care would simply be fake and manipulative on her part. That being said, I never even heard of the woman til a few dayscago, don' t know her, and am only going by what I am hearing and seeing in a video. I coukd be completely wrong.
@@laaaah4577 i have bpd and have never been violent towards anyone. it’s important to remember that one size does not fit all with this illness and most of us are self aware and do everything we can to not let others be affected by our illness
@@asunnynight9592 I agree, I think he was referring mainly to the more severe cases and maybe just looking at the type of BPD he’s seen in criminal cases. definitely not representative of the everyday person struggling with this diagnosis
When I first got into therapy I was diagnosed as borderline. There were things about the DBT therapy that were useful, but for the most part it was not helpful. Being put in a group with a dozen other people diagnosed as borderline only became damaging when the facilitators didn't protect me from their verbal attacks. Years later I was diagnosed with PTSD by a different shrink and treatment for that has been a great deal more helpful. My therapist is using EMDR which has helped me function far better. I think part of the reason for the misdiagnosis was the abuse I suffered at the hands of my parents that I thought of as normal. It took me a lot of time and therapy to come to terms with it. The sexual abuse I suffered as a child was so hard for me to even say happened much less talk about. It made my behavior quite erratic and it is only in hindsight that I see it was PTSD.
Feel your pain bud. Very abusive childhood and it lasted for years. 59 now and still wandering around in a soup of possible diagnoses. Termed psychopathic, borderline, definitely not borderline, just a very naughty boy, depressed, not depressed, anxious, superiority complex, angry young man. Oh, and for the last four years I have been awaiting the GP functions of autism diagnosis to be completed. Might sound like a Munchausen case, but by the time I was in infant school I had already been sent to child psychologists, and on it went. Recommendation for a special school but my father said : "No son of mine goes to a 'special' school." So, I was resigned to a school system that would not recognise that the differences between me and most of the other kids was not a conscious act on my part. I was trying not to drown. Some teachers took pity and allowed me to get to the top levels of the course work, pass that and then let me read alone, away from the other kids. I now understand the whole sorry mess, including the abuse my parents suffered. No one is there to blame: I am still responsible for my own actions, as were they. Difference is that I know that and they don't. Not their fault when it comes down to it. I'm actually a really contented person now, and I'm looking after my folks, in their late 80's now. I grow loads of organic veg to feed us in the garden they paid for; I use my skills to maintain and beautify the place we live; I'm the chauffer and even their counsellor and so much more besides. I now feel sad for them that the world they lived in offered no opportunity to take time out and stare at their navels like I have done. It takes time and space to build yourself back, They are no different.
But there is Complex post traumatic stress disorder which isn’t PTSD.. and CPTSD can definitely mimic some parts of borderline personality disorder like emotional disregulation , flashbacks , avoiding all places things and people at all costs - because that’s exactly what happened to me from suffering severe narcissistic abuse for years…..I wonder what you think of that Dr
@@Noname-hs5lx Unfortunately, here in the UK, all of that is pretty much outside the remit of the mental health section of the National Health Service, and would be prohibitively expensive privately. Unless you are a danger to yourself or others on an almost permanent basis, you are left to rot. The state benefit system for people with disabilities is cruel and very hard to access without going through the appeal processes, time and time again, even if your condition does not alter you must justify your claim at a maximum of every 3 years. Some people are harrassed by this system yearly, and so have several appeals running at once because the appeal process takes longer than the length of their benefit award. This system is responsible for hundreds, if not thousands, of suicides due to the Kafkaesque nature of the benefit application process. It's not about assessing your needs and responding to them; it's about fighting tooth and nail to deny you state assistance whether you need it or not.
My mother had BPD and I was her target. Growing up I tried to find out what I had done to make her dislike me so much and I would try to be as good as I could possibly be without any success. My favorite place to hide was in my closet and I knew better than to ever give her direct eye contact. My father would take me to my grandparents every weekend to keep me away from her. For the longest time I thought she was bipolar. No one in the family would talk about it even after she abandoned my sister and I in an apartment for a year when I was in high school. My father didn't know due to a restraining order she had on him that wouldn't allow him near us or to communicate with us. I totally understand Dr. Curry's assessment.
My son committed suicide at the young age of 21 after his girlfriend, who he only knew for a few months, left him. I live in grief and regret almost every day because I don't feel like I understood his condition well enough and didn't take the necessary steps to keep him safe. If you know anyone with BPD, please be very patient and sensitive. They're not all bad people. On the contrary they have an incredible level of compassion, creativity, and depth that many people lack. The suicide rate among those suffering with BPD is higher than any other mental condition and 1 in 10 people end their life. For that reason, it's very important to be patient and understanding. Here are some guidelines I put together to help family and friends deal with someone that has BPD: 1. Avoid triggers that could set them off - For example, avoid yelling at them and instead of criticizing them when they’re frustrated, validate how they feel and emphasize you’re there to help and support them. 2. Do not place them in situations that could aggravate them - For example, don’t expect them to take four college classes at the same time or work a busy 50-hour week at a stressful job, especially when they’re still an adolescent. Only give them as much responsibilities as they can handle and provide them with a safe and calm environment at home. 3. Be compassionate - All your interactions should be done in love and compassion. Remember, they are highly sensitive to criticism and rejection. So instead of getting mad when they didn’t do something right, validate their frustration and offer your help. 4. Communicate clearly - People with BPD often misinterpret language or facial expressions and may not understand your true intentions. To prevent that from happening, be very specific when speaking to them. For example, instead of saying, “I’m busy right now, I can’t talk!” say, “I’m sorry, I’m really busy right now and I have to get this project done, but I should be done in around 30 minutes and then we can talk, ok?” 5. Keep them close - People with BPD can very quickly go from feeling on top of the world to becoming suicidal because someone hurt their feelings or they got fired from their job. For that reason, you should avoid letting someone with BPD from living by themselves and handle the stresses of life on their own. They need to be in the company of a responsible adult whenever possible and any instruments that could be used for self-harm (i.e., guns, drugs, knives, ropes) should be secured and put out of reach. 6. Keep them busy - People with BPD often live in their heads and spend a lot of time thinking about their troubles and pain. The best thing you can do to help them is keeping them busy with activities they enjoy. This can vary from enrolling them in sporting activities or working on projects around the house. As they say, “an idle mind is the devils workshop!”
Bless you for trying to help others…can I suggest you trust in and believe in Jesus Christ..He will help you and tell you the Truth…you will Find the peace you desire
I am so sorry for your tragic loss. Your post is very important, and thank you for writing it! I think it's not just for BPD either. I've struggled with major depression, anxiety, childhood trauma, maybe even bipolar II, etc., and this is all very good advice for many of us and our loved ones. It seems to me amber may be more malignant narcissistic personality, and histrionic pd, because I'm not seeing any empathy or regret at all! Im sure you loved your son very much, and I hope you have found it in your heart to forgive yourself for what you could not have known at the time. I dare to say he has forgiven you too. God bless you. :-)
@@claudiacarlson30 Thank you! Really appreciate your words of encouragement! Wishing you all the best with you own struggles and hope you have a very bright and fulfilling future! God bless you too!
As a woman with BPD, I can tell you that it feels like having your guts in the blender for years on end. Even if we're beautiful, intelligent, and seductive, I can tell you we're not happy and we don't feel like we got away with something.
I think the best way to describe living with someone who has bpd is that you're constantly walking on eggshells. The smallest gesture or remark can set them off. And no matter how much patience and understanding I have, being on the receiving end of it is not a pleasant experience. That's why I'm so invested in this case, because I recognized it. I've been through that myself. I know (or at least want to believe) not everyone with bpd is like that, but I guess i'm just jaded and hurt and those wounds still have not healed.
I unfortunately have BPD and it's so sad to see situations like this happen because there's already such a bad stigma around it and this is just going to make it worse 💔 so many people I know with BPD/EUPD are secretly struggling including myself but we are decent and self-aware people healing and dedicated to getting better and it's so hard to be honest with others about your diagnosis because of how it's seen by others...I don't know if she has it but it doesn't excuse her behaviour at all
Me too I have it....it makes so much sense because in her mind not all of the abuse happened, its a different place in our brain. It is accidental I feel for her... I hate the list but apparently I have BPD, ADHD, ASPERGER TRAITS...I've managed it by lots of studies in anything that interests me plus after multiple relationships that fail not only due to me, I got a dog she has helped me immensely. Now I'm happy on my own for now until my 60s I thought I'm 52 this year ..... I ended up unmarried with no kids and feel I'm also very lucky in life I have my own large home friends around the world and I sacrificed alot for my own success ....i find its down to how independent u want to be, I have tried to apply this to everything now.....I'll be more ready later I have loved already but atm I'm pretty happy in my world now.
We don't have to be "as bad as" Amber Heard for our maladaptive coping behaviors to have a profound & damaging effect on the psyches of those closest to us. Very few of us seem to want to acknowledge this.
The reason Dr Curry had to meet with amber and do diagnostic tests (which then led to her opinion of BHPD) is because it's part of amber's case against johnny alleging that she did indeed suffer ptsd from their relationship. So yes I agree it comes from a subjective place because she's looking for it, BUT it was court ordered and not necessarily only to align with JDs legal team's hypothesis but to serve both sides' specific arguments. So basically amber brought in on herself by claiming damages. Dr curry proved no damage, which also indirectly bolstered her PD dxs
@@kayladenette5872 I understand. But if she already had it from childhood abuse its gonna be kinda hard to claim that Johnny caused it. After watching enough of this trial and listening to several hours of the recordings ' she' made, I dont believe a word she says.
@@stompthedragon4010 That’s not true, because the PTSD from her childhood abuse doesn’t necessarily present in the same way. I also it’s more likely she has CPTSD from childhood (which often is misdiagnosed as BPD) another issue is *if* she had those symptoms previously - the only previous symptoms were nightmares iirc. now, it seems she has more symptoms than that (depending on who’s testimony you believe) it’s possible both curry and hughes are correct; AH has BPD & PTSD (which certainly wouldn’t be strange) it’s possible they’re both wrong and she has neither! (also believeable) I personally don’t put much trust in any for-hire psychologist b/c psychology isn’t a hard science. I think both Dr. Curry & Dr. Hughes pandered to their clients wishes. & I think we’re all worse off for it
Dr. Curry wasn't the IPV expert, that was the expert witness for Amber. Amber's expert witness was Dr. Dawn Hughes. Dr Curry is a forensic psychologist. Dr. Curry kept her testimony to her evaluation of Amber, Dr. Hughes said that she did that too, then went on to relay what Amber told her!
They were both forensic psychologists, Dr Curry specialises in PTSD which I am sure is part of the reason that she was hired as it was the PTSD expert that said that AH didn't have PTSD. Agree that Dr Hughes' testimony had a large degree of reporting AH's stories as if she witnessed them.
My mother had BPD and Bi Polar. My father was ASPD. I really believe most of the people with these types of diagnoses need to be held accountable for their actions. All to often they are just given free reign-to destroy people and come out unscathed. They can be very slippery and sly .
Bpd's don't come out unscathed. We hurt like fuck and constantly feel extreme guilt and remorse for the stupid shit we do, we hurt people we love. It hurts forever.
@@mishi144 I understand there has to be some sort of reaching out to rebuild and repair to those that have been hurt. Make amends. A simple sorry is not amends
OH! She absolutely "split" the therapists on the case. The psych that evaluated amber for her side is completely drawn in by amber. She accepts everything she says as fact and is clearly under Amber's control. Doctor curry had a much more objective opinion and also amber clearly hates Dr.Curry.
I was diagnosed with BPD because my mother (some form of cluster B) used me as the scapegoat and needed all my behavior to be my fault and not a reaction to emotional neglect and emotional abuse. I have recently discovered, at 40 years old, that I actually have CPTSD and either sensory processing disorder or ASD - I was always told my reactions to sensory things I couldn’t handle was me being manipulative. I really learned about it and accepted I was a borderline and then hated myself because everyone thinks borderlines are THE WORST even though I didn’t behave that way and being able to let go of that has been a game changer.
Diagnosis is the ONLY way to understand what you are dealing with. I remember writing an essay on the pros and cons of diagnosis. I am very pro diagnosis.
It was my understanding that Amber Heard agreed to be assessed by the psychologist in order to bolster her claim that she lives with severe PTSD brought on by the abuse she suffered at the hands of Johnny Depp. But during the course of testing the doctor found her to be lying about that, and found instead, that based on her answers she ticked all the boxes for BPD and histrionic personality disorder. So, I do not agree with you that the doctor was trying to find a diagnosis to fit her. Amber was her own undoing. There were over 500 questions with a specific standardized formula for interpreting the information given. The findings are the findings. She wasn't tricked or trapped. Rather, she was caught in a webb of her own making and Johnny's legal team had every right to have Dr.Curry read out the results of those tests in court. Amber herself, opened that door.
Dr. Curry also used audio recordings and depositions to make her conclusions, not just Amber’s self-reporting. I absolutely believe she was feigning PTSD, and as you said, caused her own undoing.
Now that the pre trial motions have been released (or most of them) we now know that Amber was going for the PTSD claim and so had already been assessed by Dr Hughes to give that diagnosis. The assessment from Dr Curry happened because JD's side said if you are going to claim mental illness caused by JD then we need to be able to assess too. The court ruled that AH had to be assessed by the professional that JD's side chose (AH's side tried to get JD assessed too but they weren't claiming that AH caused him any mental illness so it was denied - that is what Dr Spiegel was originally hired for). Crazy part is that if AH hadn't of been claiming PTSD there wouldn't have been Dr Hughes, Dr Spiegel or Dr Curry testifying and their testimonies definitely had a big impact.
Please discuss the 4 subtypes of Borderline Personality Disorder. I've struggled with BPD for most of my life, & do not want lay people to associate AH's presentation of the disorder, & all her bad behavior, with ME in any way. Because this diagnosis has been included in the testimony in this trial that everyone is tuned into, I'm worried about the negative fallout for all of us suffering from the disorder. I fear that AH has firmly established us as the new "villain," & that people are going to start throwing the term "borderline" around WAY to liberally, without adequate knowledge of the individual or the disorder to be an to even BEGIN to make such a diagnosis, much like the term "narcissist" has been tossed around over the past couple of years or so. I think something that is NOT coming across in any of the videos I've seen discussing the trial & AH's diagnosis, is how very different one Borderine can be from the next. We are also embued with some pretty good character traits as well. Borderlines are highly empathic. We can read other people's emotions with ease. We tend to be very creative as well. We value our relationships a LOT, & as a result, we are fiercely loyal. We're passionate about the things that we care about. We are quick to point out injustice, & we advocate for fairness in all of our activities & interactions. We are hella FUN. Our spontaneous side, while it gets us into trouble sometimes, often has us trying new things & going on memorable adventures, & talking our friends & loved ones into following our lead. My best friend says that what makes me dangerous is that I can take the worst idea & communicate it in such a way that it SOUNDS absolutely reasonable, & like a lot of fun. And before you know it, we're sitting in a jail cell! In my defense, I've only gotten us arrested twice in 26 years of friendship. 😏 AH does not seem to be experiencing all the shame & guilt usually associated with BPD. We KNOW our behavior is inappropriate (after we've calmed down, anyway) & are deeply ashamed & embarassed by what we've said or done. I just don't see any of that in AH. Johnny Depp's reputation is on the mend, now that details about the couple's (s'posta been) private life have come out in court, thus garnering him sympathy in the court of public opinion. The Borderline community, though, has taken a devastating blow to OUR individual reputations. Amber Heard is a public relations nightmare, & there's no telling how long it will take us to recover from the damage she's done! I had only gotten comfortable with sharing my diagnosis with other people in recent years. This created the opportunity for me to explain why I react the way I do sometimes, to warn those around me of specific triggers & pitfalls best avoided, & to apologize in advance for times I might get out of hand. All that is gone now. I won't be sharing my diagnosis with anyone anymore. I feel like a social pariah! And all thanks have gotta go to Amber Heard for that. Anything you can do here on your channel to mitigate the damage she's done would be ever-so-appreciated! Now how 'bout those 4 subtypes? Hmmm...? 😘✌🏼
Personally I see Amber as a malignant narcissist, not BPD. My daughter is BPD and has a very loving, caring, empathetic side. Yes she can fly into meltdowns and be triggered but she is generally sorry and apologetic when calmed down. Dr. Ramani on MedCircle is agreat source of info on narcissism, BPD, and other disorders and conditions. She also has her own channel not on Med Circle.
AH isn't giving Borderline's a bad rep, psychiatrists and clinical psychologists are doing that by misdiagnosing people like AH. *Misdiagnoses happen, yes, but for the most part its a valuable service... but so is getting the word out about people with NPD and the other PD's, as well as the comorbid aspect. Most people that have some knowledge of the Cluster B personality type disorders will recognize that AH is not emblematic of a normal BPD, or HPD for that matter; those that don't can be forgiven their ignorance. That said, you should actually appreciate that narcissists are being exposed more widely instead of less, as people will most likely see that AH has less BPD and more NPD, thereby sparing the BPD's an unwanted and unfair spotlight. 💡
Amber is 1000% borderline. She is absolutely petrified of being abandoned, highly emotional, cannot accept any form of blame etc etc, the list goes on. If you have any doubt, listen to the audios uploaded by thatbrianfella on UA-cam and you'll see what I mean.
IMO she's 1% Borderline, 1% Histrionic, 10% Psychopath, and 988% Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Everyone seems to focus on her Borderline tendencies and either omitting or glossing over her (narcissistic) rages, entitlement, infidelity, grandiose notions, complete lack of empathy, gaslighting, lying, manipulations... all things more associated with NPD than Borderline or Histrionic personality disorders. I honestly don't even think she's that much Histrionic, that would be more like a Kardashian or maybe Pinkett-Smith (
@@sublimeblush will read although I remained alone now for nearly 12 years. Don't know if you know the Scottish word " scunnered" , lol 🤣 prefer just me and my all grown up kids. 💜💕 I am not saying never! 🙂
That’s sounds good, must look it up, in this case fact she started confrontations & chased him around the house, means she had no fear of violence at all. Having been through dv, to do that is just unthinkable???
Thanks Dr, as usual informative & thought 💭 provoking. My son’s ex was same diagnosis & our whole families lives were damaged by her. We supported her, loved her, tried to get her help but nothing was enough. She has no care for anyone except creating drama. She collected multiple animals and left them traumatically for them neglected. Both her grandparents told me that she was a piece of work & protect my son. He has taken 2 years to understand what happened and rebuild the friendships she attacked. I had no idea such a condition existed & even though very experienced, having her in our inner circle was like being with a shape shifter and we were all out of our depth!
I myself was in the same situation along with the entire family who loved her dearly. The whole family tried to help but she just left for a whole new life with a whole new person and left behind animals as well but the most disturbing part is she left her son behind. And now that her son is older has to contend with all that and seeing her on the internet claiming to be a victim. Bizarre. Our family even tried to speak with her family but it is just bizarre all the lies and trickery and stonewalling from her family. Wierd and incomprehensible. So much family dysfunction that no one wants to bring outin the open to actually get true help and heal. Secrets and trauma to their grave. Unhealthy family systems and dynamics. So sad
I was mis-diagnosed as BPD when I actually had autism and c-ptsd. This was in the UK. BPD took years to be removed and it still pops up and needs to be corrected.
The audio/video of some of AH's exchanges with JD sure did sound like intense distress over "abandonment". Her whole testimony - even the tearless 'crying' and fast-shifting facial contortions - seemed to be underpinned by flashing ANGER - even though what she was describing would be felt as very SAD by most people = the loss of a close relationship. Both AH and JD got together verrrry quickly, and after the year-long 'honeymoon' phase, their connection became increasingly toxic, abusive. She had no friends supporting her in court. Observing AH's behaviours helped me understand 'borderline' much better - I feel lucky to have never known anyone like this in my life. Thanks for the explanation of "splitting" - which I have never fully understood.
I’m so glad that you made the distinction between mental illness and personality disorder. I’m not keen on the “suffers from” description of personality disorders either.
My aunt has BPD and it’s bad. We went to Costco and lost sight of her. So we decided to check out our items. We decided to wait outside for her. She came out in a RAGE. She refused to speak to us and when she opened the truck of her car, she began to unload her cart by literally throwing her items into the truck. She would hold the item as if she was pitching on a mound and hurl them. We got into the car and she drove at 100mph all the way home, swerving between cars. I almost called 911. People with BPD are a living nightmare and are the most rotten people on earth.
I have BPD, am an avid #MentalHealthAwareness advocate and spoken word performer, and I love this so much. I travel the country trying to bring that awareness on stages, in classrooms, hospitals, and on my UA-cam channel, so I get excited when I see other advocates.
Hi, two years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD and I was relieved that someone could finally tell me why I felt like I did. I was diagnosed because I was knocked down on a pelican crossing 40 years ago and still have nightmares about the pavement rushing towards me and stopping a few centimetres from my face. I guess the term PTSD wasn’t known then. it has been a long journey of not being able to cross roads if cars are coming towards me, fearing roundabouts because cars come from all directions at me and even crossing the road on foot. I am actually glad that I now have a name to what I feel and my grown up sons never knew how difficult a walk to the local park was for me. The injuries are getting worse now that I am older, but I feel I have been brave for the last 40 years and even though I have to have a stick when I go outside, I am proud that I managed to get this far. Stubborn determination with a sassy attitude..... that’s me. Love your channel, I have worked on the front line of ASD for over 44 years and my difficulties enabled me to have an amazing amount of empathy for those in my care. I helped families in crisis to stay together and live a higher quality of life and I helped them to achieve things they never thought they would. Now that I physically can’t work anymore my brain refuses to not be able to help others and I have written a book on all aspects of ASD in five environments with plenty of experiences of over 4 decades to back it up. Never give up is my philosophy in life....there is always someone that could do with your empathy. Thank you for your empathy in the work that you do Dr Das, you make a difference to people’s lives for sure. Regards
What makes Amber's flavor of Borderline so malignant & toxic are the co-morbid Cluster B traits of both the narcissistic & sociopathic variety which run parallel to her BPD. Just my two cents! ✌️
THIS. I mean, we can't diagnose her. But these are my thoughts exactly. The audio and photos she took are supposed to prove her case but it's just chilling because it's showing her malignant intentions.
That's been my own thoughts, too. Just to speculate Amber Heard does come across as pathologically narcissistic and having traits that one sees with individuals who have sociopathy.
I find it to be fascinating and somewhat creepy that people suffering from BPD aren't only constantly changing their opinions and feelings towards themselves, their friends, family members and partners, but that they also often change their memories about how they've felt about something or somebody. When I get to know somebody and at first like that person, I might change my feelings towards that person later, but I will never change the memory of having liked that person at first. People with BPD can totally change this kind of memories, they even sometimes "remember" having being "raped", when in fact they themselves inititated the sexual contact without being drunk or on drugs, they later "remember" it totally different and they don't necessarily lie about these "memories". I once visited a music festival with some of my friends, a friend of a friend I hadn't known before, seemed to enjoy himself all day, until one of the last bands playing pissed him off for some reason. He got really angry and ranted about what a shitty day he have had all day. When I told him that to me me he had seemed to have enjoyed himself until that one band had annoyed him, he got aggressive towards me, yelling at me, threatening me. I later got to know that he suffers from BPD, but at the moment it happened, I was totally surprised by his sudden rage. Later that day on my way home I got mugged and severly injured. But I can still rememeber having had a rather fun day untill I got mugged.
Sorry, but I also have been in a relationship to somebody suffering from BPD about twenty years ago and it has been a very intimidating and abasing experience. I got too close to one of them and got burned, so I try to avoid them, as they really scare me. If I was still doing social work, I could probably handle having to work with clients suffering from BPD, but I really try to keep them out of my private life if possible.
@@KitKatSukiKat Oh, it does, she also seems to show some anti-social tendencies, like lying about her relationship with JD, damaging his reputation and career, her violence and leaving poo in JD's bed, but this sort of aggression and recklessness has very much to do with her BPD. I didn't mean "creepy" in a offensive way and I wasn't talking about you at all. I just wanted to express my personal fear of people with BPD and of BPD as such.
Yes, I agree that Dr Curry would be diagnosing AH from a very subjective viewpoint. However, 90% of her testimony was describing the disorders, not so much of what she observed with AH. From my view, she need not have even met with AH: she could have just described the disorder and most of us would have reached the conclusion that AH has BPD just from watching and listening to the tapes. Boggles my brain that AH made all those recordings thinking they would prove her point of Johnny being an abuser! That also proves (to me) that she has a very skewed view of what was going on in their lives.
That's quite typical of borderline. They mediate their perceptions and memories through their emotions, quite literally with them "how I feel about something is the truth". I've watched one make insane assertions about really basic stuff purely based on how they're feeling that day.
@@MadCatLady28 Are you saying they just act on their present feelings at that point? Just wondering if I understood you. Meaning they don't look to their past experiences to make involved decisions about the present? Is that why people with PD have specific traits like outbursts? They can't relate to the past or it's too painful?
@@Makeeverydayyourbestday not exactly. They manufacture memories and events to suit their emotions. It's not deceptive as such, more like hard out delusion. So... if they're in a mood, they will swear black and blue that you "started something" and I think they genuinely believe it. Their experiences and memories are malleable in this way.
I'm honestly confused by the BPD diagnosis because she's so scheming, vindictive, manipulative and lacking in empathy. Some of her abuse was explosive, but some was very planned and thought out. I really thought there would be classic malignant narcissism in there somewhere. Then again, I'm not a psychologist, I just watch a lot of UA-cam. 😄
All I can’t unread is… SHE SHAT THE BED! I also reckon there a smidge of narc going on as well as the EUPD/Histrionic diagnosis. This is one fckd up woman.
About time a psychiatrist says PTSD is caused by a life threatening event/events. Years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, major depression, generalized anxiety, other things. PTSD is embarrassing. When I had it every time a man would just raise their hand around me or approach me in what seemed be in an assertive way I automatically fell to the ground and put my arms up over my face and head. Also it was exhausting.. I ended up drinking a lot to be able to sleep at night. Anyway it seems a lot of psych Drs on here downplay it to being just anxiety, depression, and or low self esteem. Not saying having those things isn't bad, because I have struggled with those things myself, but there's more to having PTSD than having those things. PS I say when I had it, because I'm not constantly on alert anymore and I don't have night terrors, along with other things.
Always enjoy your videos and hearing your take on Dr. Curry’s testimony was interesting. I do wish you had spoken about the MMPI 2 tho, as I would like to learn more about it. Perhaps you could do a full length video on that topic!
You described my ex girlfriend to a T. It was such a confusing time, she'd be happy and then literally 10 minutes later, would switch to being morose and monosyllabic or kind one minute then hostile and angry the next........and seemingly for absolutely no reason whatsoever. She had idealised me then all of a sudden she was antagonistic towards me, again, for no apparent reason. I knew soon enough that I had to get away from her because she didnt see any of this, even when I pointed it out to her. She refused to go to counselling, she refused to admit she was ever wrong and her relationship with the truth was non existent. Now, a couple of years later, I can see she was 100% boderline and to be honest, had I known this information back then I would have ended the relationship as soon as I saw that first red flag. Lesson learned(the hard way as usual).
AH is a textbook BPD. Ticking all the boxes I have experienced with my borderline ex. I had to accept her condition as a psychological handicap (e.g. incapable of empathy and handling blame and responsibility of what she causes and inflicts), so I could understand and process what she's done to me, herself (yes, BPD are victim of themselves), and anyone around her. Including our kids! Just horrible!
I really disagree with the BPD diagnosis, someone with BPD act's on an unstoppable emotion, all her actions in the past and present clearly show no regret even proudness in the damage and pain her actions and lies have caused. The fact she filmed everything from the start to frame her spouse and the lack of empathy, emotions and a clear self centered grandiose behavior where she thinks that "I am better then everybody else" in every situation I mean it all screams Narcissist and or Sociopath.
@Dave Bieleveld No they change into the child they were when the trauma was developed, any other sign of a different personality is the narcissist trying to copy emotions or behavior he or she learned from other's or tv.
I think even narcissists can feel empathy at times. But sociopaths cannot. It's hard to understand the full capacity of her illness, but BPD has many subtypes and some of those have narcissistic characteristics. Just perhaps not enough to qualify for the NPD diagnosis. I can say that her idealizing and devaluing "I hate you don't leave me" and her explosive anger is typical borderline behavior. But a lot of the other symptoms can be hard to tell, and with some people, entirely unoticeable. Because it really is a condition of how you think about the world and yourself and your relationships, so it isn't always visible or obvious.
Narcissistic traits are apart of BPD, especially when one splits and devalues someone. She’s a classic example of the narcissism and grandiosity of a BPD patient when splitting
@@dianarusnov292 I have been in 2 BPD relationships and 1 Covert NPD relationship in both the BDP relationships I felt very loved and it was that they generally cared about me and apologized after going into a rage or tantrum, it was a rollercoaster and it might have felt walking on eggshells most of the time I still felt they just wanted love in return and I learned allot from these relationships. The relationship with the Covert Narcissist oh jeez where do I even start, Everything about this person seemed to be fake and the lies started from day one cheating and disrespecting, gaslighting the whole ordeal I felt so alone in this relationship, communicating was impossible with this person and the abuse was so subtle, it could always happen and it made me feel like I lost myself. This person didn't care, never did not for one moment. The aftermath was a living hell and I can honestly say I had several trauma's and anxiety at the end of this relationship.
@@icwhy4366 Sorry this happened. Hope you're better! This is my typical experience as well. I have Quiet BPD that is often internal and I seem to attract narcissists or have them in my life and they're a headache. Generally very cold and manipulative. And I'm very sensitive and emotional. And then I know people with BPD who are like Amber and have a narcissistic display, but beneath it is still those core BPD issues of emptiness and abandonment. What I meant in my prior comment is that I've heard that narcissists have selective empathy and have the ability to feel it but choose not to. Not sure if that's true.
I was diagnosed with BPD in the 80s. It was never followed up clinically and was a struggle to unwind myself. A label would have given me a place to begin in realigning myself with who I want to be. Labels are there for a reason. If you don't believe me, go into your pantry and remove all the labels from your cans. See how well that improves cooking. Live your vids Dr. Sas
Thank You for this 👍🏼 I personally have PTSD and have dealt with people who are borderline and histrionic and some other things as well, it's quite a myriad of human conditions
And once they are 'abandoned' (which happens when you can no longer cope with the out of control roller coaster behaviours) there's countless accounts of people who are then falsely accused of stuff, smear campaigns etc. In anger it's like 'you hurt me by leaving, I'm going to hurt you back'
i think referring to people with bpd/traits of bpd as "a bit of a nightmare" is stigmatizing for a group that is already severely stigmatized. saying a relationship with them can be a bit of a nightmare would be more fair, if you must use the word. i know it's just a slight difference in phrasing but it matters. "maybe you know someone like this, maybe that relationship is extremely challenging/tumultuous/disorienting/painful/frustrating" is descriptive, validating, and true without placing judgment on the person with bpd.
@@xepru at the 2 min-ish mark "they can be a bit of a nightmare". I see what you mean, and I was recently told I'm exhibiting shallow affect (by my therapist). And I certainly wasn't trying to assert that it's a good blanket statement to call all people with BPD a nightmare.
Liked your observations. When watching AH testify in this trial, and viewing her previous recorded deposition, my gut reaction was mostly everything she said seemed phony, concocted, intended to make JD look bad, and her to look like a victim. Dr Curry helped me validate my instincts with the clinical definitions of behavioral disorders that I was uneducated about. When I was a highschool instructor and counselor for at-risk-youth I worked with some extremely abused young people, and saw up close how the abuse effected them, and how it manifested in their behavior, and their reactions to interviews and stress. Some of their accounts and stories affected me deeply, I often had to hold back my tears. I would weep sometimes elsewhere when I was reflecting. With AH my sense is that her behavior is contrived and her stories are hollow fabrications.
I think no one really knows how a borderline feels because each one is slightly different just with some overlapping symptoms. Complex ptsd is often misagnksed as boarderline.most these people have trauma
That lack of empathy, the need for supply like an itch that will never be scratched, the absolute refusal to accept any responsibility, and the feeding off of other people's pain gives me more narcissistic vibes than bpd.
My adopted brother (we grew up together but not biological) has BPD, I do not have a relationship with him due to his refusal to get help. Also I had a coworker who had BPD, she made our office a living hell
It's not even people with BDP. I think the problem is mainly when people lack insight into their own behavior I think therapy is just learning to cope with people who won't get therapy.
Hey~I've recently graduated with a degree in medicine and I aspire to become a psychiatrist, I've also been diagnosed with Borderline personality disorder about 6 years ago. To be honest, cbt and dbt has helped me so much over the past years, not to say that psychiatric medication don't have their place. The amount of pain I've been through drives me towards psychiatry in so many ways. I believe mental illness needs a multidisciplinary team to make a large impact on the patients overall health.
I can relate to how a lovely human being can try to help someone with BPD(like JD) usually they tend to be over the top when everything goes well, caring, protective and very intense. But it goes both way, depending on their surroundings, and their education, they are so fearful that they often make bad choices on impulse and spiralling compulsively in the past memory or in the futur desire. I just left my ex with BPD since I was arguing too much and I was afraid that she could be destructive to my temper. Even thought I loved her, I was unable to have the necessary space and step back of the emotional entanglement. I’m on a 6 months break just so I hope we can still be friends if that’s possible.
This is totally me. I'm a lot better than I was, after intense private therapy, but I just hide it better. It's extremely hard to get a diagnosis in Britain. In my experience, everything just gets bundled under severe depression and anxiety. My background is loss of both parents, Foster care, neglect, abuse, trauma, so it fits with what you said.
In the borough I worked in there was very little specialist input for people diagnosed with EUPD/emerging EUPD. I have known of people being diagnosed after an initial review in the community and then discharged. Seemingly, little use of structured assessments/schedules. I also witnessed casual referencing to a personality disorder diagnosis in a ward round (when there was an extant, primary diagnosis). Once diagnosed, people had no access to a specialist service within the Trust and only a lucky few might be offered mentslisation based arts therapy. In respect of the clinician giving evidence, I felt she focussed solely on the negative aspects of EUPD (even though there was nothing innaccurate about her clinical perspective on traits and DSM guidance). The ICD also offers a slightly more nuanced approach as it identifies the differences between an explosive aspect versus a quieter manifestation. Personally, having lived with an Amber, I have no doubt that JD was impacted psychologically as well as physically. What this case highlights is that life is nuanced and complex and the split arguments from legal teams often fall short in describing the reality of relational conflict.
Hi, I just discovered the channel and I love it. I'm a 43 year old recovered addict who has a diagnosis of EUPD. From an early age I was very symptomatic, always falling out with people, clinging to relationships and sabotaging them when I thought they were going to leave me. I would self harm and my behaviour was very impulsivie. I also started using alcohol and drugs at around 14 years old which would develop into a debilitating addiction that I only escaped six years ago. I'm in the final year of a psychology BSc so I understand a little about BPD. The strange thing is, not only has my substance use disorder subsided over the last six years, but my BPD symptoms have become MUCH less pronounced. I know that not using substances is playing a large role in this, but I also feel that perhaps my recovery from addiction is a side affect of my BPD becoming less pronounced (as opposed to vice versa). I've been clean before, granted for less time, and my BPD symptoms have persisted. This time round though, I am no longer clinging to relationships, self harming, getting into arguments, acting impulsivity, sabotaging relationships etc etc. I have a job, and as I've aluded to am studying. I have been taking a large dose of quetiapine for over ten years now and maybe because I'm not using that is able to take effect but I feel as though I no longer have the symptoms that were so obvious and derogatory to my life. I think the job and studying is playing a huge part in recovery from both addiction and BPD. I've never felt better. I'm finally really enjoying my life and I like who I am today. My life is full of wonderful friends and family and I feel so lucky to have survived, because I VERY NEARLY didn't. Thanks for the video.
I’m not a mental health professional but in the context of this case I think the JD legal team had solid grounds to appoint an expert witness that could speak to Amber Heard’s possible diagnoses since it was her who first publicly said that she suffered from PTSD and other psychological issues due to the alleged abuse by Johnny Depp. The legal team is trying to offer a different narrative to what she said and establish that maybe what she said is not entirely true, hence there’s space for the defamation claim. Plus she opened the door to the psychological evaluation talk as those admissions came directly from her.
Excellent & through content, very well spoken. Thank you. I wasn’t on the jury. I’ve only seen a slice of evidence in the case of AH’s BPD evaluation. After reading the previous comments I can speak from personal experience that if you have BPD then please, please do not be dismissive and get professional help. Also, avoid drinking, drugs, lying, and fame at all costs. To all the sweet ones living with BPD never forget that your partners may love you more than the world yet they do not deserve to be crushed by your dis regulated emotional tsunami unleashed in moments when you lose control. We are all in this together. We all need to take responsibility for our actions and continue to learn ways to find peace in ourselves. IMHO, your mileage may vary, yet I still love you to…
İ agree with you. Most possibly, a simple borderline would have been sitting at home, still, waiting for the partner to come back. Making it public, craving for more attention, having no regrets, and creating a global mess wouldn't be something a simple borderline prefers to do, it more likely fits the HPD side. Also, her attitude towards people of lower social level that you mentioned might be explained by narcissistic behaviour rather than bpd, I believe. She confuses me a lot, i think we are watching a dangerous mixture of all.
She actually seems more typical of someone with NPD to me. I'm not a doctor, but I do know about narcissm! I also know that clinicians are hesitant to give the NPD label to women as it's still seen as something that men have and women tend to get the BPD label
Whole other topic here but WHY is Dr. Grande's pop psychology recommended more than your educational and honest channel? I would have never found you if I didn't see your analysis on Dr. Grande. That guy erks me to my core. Happy to be here on your channel. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us psych enthused minds. ❤
I had been diagnosed with PTSD while in a narcissistic relationship for 11 yrs. I was not in a life-threatening situation, although the life of my mental and emotional health were threatened. I suffered dusassociation very badly, night terrors, intense emotional flashbacks, severe panic attacks, taking risks with my safety to the point of self-harm, severe anxiety, fear of leaving my home, trouble sleeping, and the list goes on. Alot of the symptoms for BPD and NPD overlap. Her mood shifts is trauma bonding. I would like to know the difference between the anger outbursts and narcissistic rage. Both diagnoses are so similar. I dont believe Heard is promiscuous, and it seems like she gets attention for being beautiful rather than using her beauty to mesmerize and seduce men. She's quite interpersonal exploitative as Depp has stated he shared his deepest and emotional secrets and experiences only to have them used against him as a weapon. Also Heard herself has stated (paraphrasing) that if Depp voiced his abuse, no one would believe him. NPD involves splitting, seeing your significant other as competition, trying to control a public image and reputation, and all of it.
I think AH has NPD, and few traits of Borderline. Try to search on YT the "difference beetween NPD and BPD", you will learn a lot. Anyway anger is always about a boundry, trying to protect yourself. Npd rage is the same.
It’s painful. As a survivor of I intimate partner relations, she is full of 💩. She is making it so much harder for the rest of us! It is horrible. Toxic relationship-yes. But, she is clearly the aggressor!
Mrs H ...A person I know who has BPD... I can't be around her for long periods....I've had to get the Police involve on a few occasions as she suffers with sleeplessness and struggles to be on her own...She's very needy...She's violent and causes arguments cos she seems to love being the centre of attention and drama... I helped the person I'm talking about to get help and with her getting help I learnt by her treatment and studied it so I could support her... I go on holiday just to come home to find that on top of her meds she was taking drugs and drinking alcohol ...She was hurting herself and smashing things up that I had to phone out the mental health team who sectioned her....Her childhood was horrific but as an adult she kept blaming other for things that they hadn't done...The Police got sick of her that she ended up in a Psychiatric hospital for months cos at the click of the fingers she's go from a lunatic to the nicest person in the world.... I had to move away from her eventually as her behaviour was effecting my child, myself and other family members....
I think it’s important to understand that people with bpd can be and often are victims of abuse themselves. I’m not downplaying the often damaging behaviour of people with bpd when they are acting out, nor am I commenting on heard/ depp. I think how it was used in this trial is cynical and stigmatising.
Any person with mental health issues that are not managed are vulnerable. The really scary and sad part is these are the challenges that can lead to really horrific outcomes.
i was diagnosed bpd, but im self-aware, and my partner is kind and understanding, I try to self-reflect and understand that the issues might stem from me, being diagnosed was the greatest thing that ever happened to me, because it's allowed me to work on myself. watching AH makes me sick because I can understand the rage and emotional instability but I would never do the things she did. it makes me feel sick when I hear about the trial
I don't believe there is enough money to have me fake a profile of an individual. Too much invested to risk losing the license. Done properly, these forensic evaluation tools are very reliable and objective. I'd say that a treating practitioner would have a bias on the interpretation but other than at first visit a treating practitioner cannot administer or interpret these tests. But see Dr. Curry (Why do you call her Shannon Curry? You don't even do that with Dr. Todd) anyway Dr. Curry did an amazing and thorough job on the assessment, interpretation, and expert testimony.
She met with Johnny Depp's attorneys and contracted with them to refute a PTSD diagnosis and to provide a BPD diagnosis. They announced that they had a psychologist who would refute the PTSD diagnosis. Then she met with Amber. Does that order of events seem proper to you?
To be fair on Dr Shannon Curry she did say during her testimony that she was hired to evaluate if Heard had PTSD but then decided she needed to review the personality disorder as well. Whether she was looking for it is another matter entirely - after all, she did also review all the evidence whereby she would have come across the tape recording where Depp said she has a Borderline Personality Disorder.
Not every single borderline does and says all those things. Each one is so different some have varying degrees of empathy. Soemtimes people are ass holes to someone with BPD and then if that person doesn't like them for good treason it's blamed on them being difficult. So the stigma is strong. I've got eupd and I've never punched a friend. When I see someone in pain it kills me
I think you're wrong in one thing, if I may make this point. About the expert witness who diagnosed Amber Heard of those two personality disorders. The defence had no choice BUT to get an expert witness to prove their points from a scientific perspective. And, I imagine, this was accepted by the court prior to the expert interviewing and assessing the defendant, who defamed the plaintiff, as otherwise, Amber Heard would have never accepted the medical examination. Therefore, I don't see how that can be dodgy, especially since any expert on the stand would never risk their professional reputation just to give a desired diagnosis. It doesn't behoove them to be proved wrong or misleading, as that would tarnish their entire professional reputation. So I have to disagree with you on that point.
Dr. Hughes has had her expert testimony stricken from the records in precious cases due to very clear bias. I believe she was stricken from R. Kelly and Mr. Ray a Boy scouts case.
@@brittywren2877 I don't exactly disagree. In fact, I found Dr. Hughes unprofessional in the extreme. However, she was aided and abetted in her bias by both judge and lawyers on both sides. I found that to be ridiculous. So I have to ask: WHY?! My disagreement is only pointing to this strange phenomenon which the US courts seem to think is OK. It wouldn't be acceptable in Europe, as far as I know. An "expert" should not be biased either way. Science doesn't veer one way or the other. It's neutral. At least, it's supposed to be!
@@szendrich I believe what you're seeing on jd's side is a part of their strategy to let her make her bias apparent. Bc if she shows it, it will in fact make her seem incapable of an unbiased expert opinion therefore discrediting her testimony in the jurors eyes. Thats just my assumption based on what I'm watching. Every team will have a different strategy. Idk what strategy ah team has if any at all.
it can definitely be treated my sister has bpd and i've seen a lot of improvement over the years. I know you have to set strong boundaries which is hard for me. I know I'm not a shrink but hopefully this helped some.
A personality disorder is chronic... Usually therapy and medication resistant. Therapy is usually to help manage or assist with interpersonal impairments that can or do occur.
I have BPD and other comorbid mental health issues including ptsd. My psychiatrist helped me learn to hate myself less when he explained that ppl with BPD suffer immensely and the person who's harmed most by their behaviour is themselves. Yes, it's treatable. HOWEVER, people with bpd are very reluctant to believe their diagnosis and almost become combative about it which means their quite unlikely to take part genuinely in treatment. Over the past 15 or so years I've made incredible improvements but it had damaged so many of my relationships with family & loved ones already. My other mental health conditions amplified it all a million times. I'm so glad I accepted my diagnoses and took steps to correct and do a lot of work on addressing why I do what I do & come to realise that I can & have gotten better, it's not my fault, I grew up maladapting to my surroundings & had to survive. Show compassion because they're suffering but you should have very strict boundaries because some of us can emotionally manipulate & take advantage. Boundaries become very blurred for some and it can happen really quickly. ✌🏻❤
@@Zara_Brown I hope ytou are getting better, BUT it is an absolute fallacy that the person with BPD is the one most harmed. Most people with BPD--perhaps not you--drive the basically good people upon whom they pray to the edges of despair, madness, and ideations of harm against self and others. They destroy utterly the reality of those with whom they are in intimate relationships, charm mutual friends and therapists. and are without remorse.
yes, you should have sympathy for them. it's not a choice, and they are suffering. they don't want to hurt like this and they don't want to hurt the people around them. in fact, people w bpd feel emotions very strongly, and the guilt of hurting your loved ones can be sickening. and yes absolutely it can be treated. i don't know that it would be called "cured," but i personally know people who no longer fit the criteria for bpd after years of therapy. i don't think it's fair to say people w bpd are unlikely to take part in treatment. but unfortunately, not many treatments are tailored to help those with bpd. dialectical behavioral therapy (dbt) can work wonders, but it's not very accessible. there's a limited number of qualified therapists, and it can be quite expensive.
I enjoyed this video and have subscribed. I had a friend for many years who I now believe to be a borderline. She loved me and then hated me. I had noticed how she was constantly fighting with her husband or family members and often wondered what that was all about. I was diagnosed with PTSD recently at age 60. I believe this all started when I was almost strangled by an ex boyfriend who had been abusive. I was 21. I often found myself being anxious with rapid heartbeat and when I look back , it was always around acts of DV. Not mine but people who were friends. It doesn’t seem to bother me too much. And now I know when it is happening and usually why. Our minds are very powerful. So, keep up the good work. Lisa
Unfortunately, I married my mother more than once. Being in a relationships with a BPD person is the absolute worst. They are experts at gaslighting, and tend to be drawn to people who are basically decent, only so they can annihilate them with glee once they have sucked them in. It makes the non-mentally ill partner crazy, because there is no solid ground. Sympathy should be reserved for those harmed by BPD people, and BPD people need to be held to full account. Also, thank you for calling out the appropriation of PTSD. As someone with actual PTSD, I raise this all the time with people who embrace it because of some minor, transitory, it's just life event that left them unsettled in any way. Living with PTSD, GAD, and true depression is not fun, especially when competent treatment is elusive. Those who evoke these labels because they have an emotional hangnail sicken me.
@@kells4152 I'm guessing their mother had a diagnosis of bpd and they married two different people with similar pathologies. It's not uncommon. I don't think they literally married their mother twice.
Yes, PTSD is carefully diagnosed. I didn't know I had it (makes sense tho) until a neuropsychologist diagnosed me late in life. I had previously only related it to veterans.
You can both hold people with BPD responsible for their actions and still have compassion for them. Given the amount of combinations symptoms can have..two people can have the same diagnosis and have totally different presentations.
When I re-watched Dr. Curry’s testimony I think when she was actually describing the cruelty and repressed rage, she was talking about personality traits of Amber’s 3-6 results on the MMPI-2 which has traits of paranoid personality disorder. Not specifically about BPD and I think Amber’s trauma and the patterns she has developed are very specific to her. I don’t think she has PTSD either but definitely think you can get PTSD from non life threatening events.
The only thing I’m yet to see from Amber in regards to her episodes is the immense shame and guilt that comes from having splitting episodes. I was one of types who did use degrading language, very cruel at times and then used physical force to stop that person leaving in any way I could. As a result once the episode had passed I would always end up severely embarrassed/ashamed of my actions and sometimes suicidal because I had no understanding of what just happened. I knew I did it, but I didn’t understand why because my rational non BPD side knows right from wrong. As a result I was told this intense shame is part of the diagnosis? We haven’t seen or heard much about her behaviours after other than they were followed with “faking injuries” etc. That’s a part I do find confusing. That and I find it slightly strange that Dr Curry was on the side of the prosecution rather than being an objective witness. From the Perspective of someone who has borderline personality disorder, GAD and ADHD, in year 5 of recovery treatment (MBT & DBT) and who’s training to be peer support for others with borderline personality disorder who are in crisis and are receiving inpatient treatment🙏🏻
yeah that is what I don't understand either, no shame or remorse episodes... how could someone with bpd even keep this up... continue to lie and act.... the only thing I can think of is that the drugs/coke are keeping her ego or delusions up...
Dr Dass... BPD and HPD are, according to my knowledge of the details of this trial, both very accurate. Yes - Dr Curry did testify and identify the disorders for AH for the trial, but I honestly think she must definately get treatment so that she can cope with life overall. I have very close family members with these disorders and although I am not a professional, I can definately identify and relate based on experience. Thank you - love all your videos💜💜💜
Much as I have grown to detest AH over these past few weeks, I agree she needs therapy. I can't imagine the stress, unhappiness and sheer hopelessness a person with such deep seated hatred must feel. I also think she is dangerous and that this public backlash will send her over the edge .
I agree with you about Amber Heard needing treatment and therapy but she has to want to get help. It appears to me that she's still in denial and still looking for ways to get people back on her side. I was never on her side but do agree that she should get help. But we can't force it on her. Her situation is really sad because she just can't seem to stop lying and defaming Johnny Depp. They've been divorced for six years now and many of us are embarrassed for her in her continuous need to try to change the public perception of her. She clearly is making her life more complicated than it needs to be but her ego is so humungous that I doubt she will ever just accept her loss in Depp walking away from her and her defeat in the courtroom.
You should have discussed bias of doctors against BPD,it's one of the biggest issues we face with getting help,you showed your own bias when referencing psychopathic traits [like shallow affect] in BPD,which is clearly not part of the DSM criteria its just your own experience with patients. i get it,being a therapist is hard,but it's YOUR job. i'm honestly so tired of hearing therapists complain about how hard it is to work with borderliners. it's one of the few mental illness that gets such bad treatment. you should take time to reflect and understand maybe you're doing more damage then good.
Very well articulated and informative! Saw your input on Mr black (the disturbing truth channel). I love the take on psychology with your channel, being interested and majored in psychology. And for the record, you hit the nail on the head with amber, and I enjoyed this video. Will be subbing ! 👏
My understanding on PTSD is that the trauma had to have the potential of being life threatening. So with sexual assault or domestic violence or molestation the events weren't necessarily life threatening but they had the potential to be..and they did result in bodily harm. Of course I'm not a psychiatrist. Would love to see you do a video on the "slenderman case" one of the offenders was recently released.
What is the definition of life threatening? If the abuse removes your sense of self, you have in effect been killed at a primal level. Hope that helps.
I suffer from it after a SA. 2013. Taken me a long time and everyone different. But only recently had a night terror and it all comes flooding back. PTSD is something you would not wish on another. It disrupts your life especially socially. Also puts pressure on your family as you can be fine one minute and not the next. Can be terrifying even as you sleep.
@@justsomebloke6784 I think as a child it's life threatening, cannot imagine worse. But also in adult hood as it's a situation a dangerous situation where your life is at risk! In your mind if someone takes things that far , then how far will it go! I ended up nearly beaten to death. I woke up after a stranger followed me home. A inch from death. That's PTSD!
I am diagnosed with BPD but I am more of the quiet type. In the past it has made me more likely to be a victim of abuse or control because I will cling on to really not nice people because of the fear of abandonment. I literally never do explosive rage outwards, far more prone to turning my negative emotions inwards on myself.
Do you think she could also have bipolar disorder.... Or more general mood disorder? I'm a psych nurse practitioner and I think a lot of adolescents with borderline overlap with severe mood disorders...
I feel it's really important you mention that there are quiet Borderlines, or outward acting. There is so much stigma and hatred towards those of us with it, but some of us are quiet Borderlines and you'd never know unless we said or you were a Nurse or Dr. BPD is already a really painful condition, we don't need a Dr saying we're explosive and angry and fighting etc, many of us NEVER fight or become aggressive
Dr Das, as an expert witness, have you had the opposition treat you much like Amber Herd's team treated Dr Curry? As in not show you the report you made or take things out of context. If so, what does it feel like to be a Dr on the stand speaking about someone's mental health with people trying to refute you? Also an interview with you and the Live Abuse Free youtube channel about this case would be awesome.
With regard to the dodginess of diagnosis in a court case like this, Dr Curry works for Johnny Depp and is part of his legal team's presentation. She is making statements about the enemy of her camp, so she hypes up everything bad that she can about Amber Heard. Dodgy is the kindest way to describe such a situation.
I'm pretty sure I have BPD since I've never been diagnosed by a Doctor. I do have C-PTSD, Major depression(I slept my life away for nearly 2 years) , and Anxiety from being raped twice at 14 years old and being bullied ,regected, and my father abandoning me, and had childhood sexual abuse. I can see myself in Amber when I was younger at least 16 years old. I would also start fights for no reason in with my brothers and sisters.I also was severely paranoid ,still am along with uncontrolled delusional thoughts, and uncontrolled intrusive thoughts coming out of nowhere and being angry all the time .I also had other addiction I wasn't able to get to because of how a reject I was ,so I developed a over eating disorder. I was put on paxil at 18 years old but because I was doing so well my dr took me off from them. As of June I chose to be put back on it and go to therapy.Im now in my 30s and looking back I'm just ready to heal and forgive , and move on. My ex boyfriend was a drug to me which is something I admitted in therapy. It took me 10 years to admit but at the same time im very proud of myself. I guess my point is that for me I see the whole Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial has been a shedding light for me. We all have demons and it's hard to face them. I always thought it was just a publicity stunt to get attention or money but the more and more this came out with these skeletons.I realized 😳 like holy shit( I'm not alone...)
Gratitude for your channel and insights! I echo the concerns about unfair negative reactions to people managing BPD potentially arising after this trial. It is so true that people with this Dx can have strong empathy, compassion, and sincere remorse for hurting others before seeking therapy. Questions: was anyone bone-chilled by AH's subtle smiles during the humiliating tapes of JD in pain; her cold stare at JD before the fake sad face toward the jury during his testimony; her cold stare at CV flashed after a sad face toward the jury when called out; and shocked (?) furious (?) expression when saying she could not believe JD would fight back, possibly because of her cruelty and fleeting power over him following her Op-ed? May ASPD signs be presenting?
Hello Dr Das. I have a diagnosis of emotionally unstable personality disorder. I have been arrested and charged in the past because of my behaviour. My body is a mess with self harm, i was in A&E almost every weekend to have stitches. The past 4/5 years ive been getting better and Ive had tats to cover my scars. I also have a stable job as a store supervisor and im engaged. I am not a time waster, I am not useless or stupid and I do care what people think. I still have issues, especially in my relationship, i've often tried to sabotage it but i know i would be lost without him. I have severe anxiety over health and what i'm doing is right or wrong. I have obsessive thoughts and chronic insomnia. I just want to say BPD is manageable and people can get through it!
My sister was diagnosed with BPD in her teens, she almost destroyed our family. We walked on eggshells around her. She would turn on you, hit you and insult you and a few hours later she would act as if nothing happened. She has mellowed some in her later years, but this disorder is devastating.
I have a family member with BPD and this is exactly the sort of behaviour I've had to experience from them.
the borderline useually only show in familys who have genetics and bad parenting, its mostlikely your parents fault that your sister had borderline.
@@jescorneliussen6761I agree, my grand mother and her sister both were sychzophrenic, genetic side. Plus my sister was a cry baby. The doctor at the time told my mom to put her in a pram in the kitchen and close the door. Doubt that was good. She was always difficult, the Black sheep of the family. I know she cant help it but I keep my distance as much as I can. She has done so much harm, not just to me. It is hard....😢
I have BPD and it’s people like Amber Heard that give us a bad name! I said to my psychiatrist that I don’t want to be like her and she laughed. The are so many ways the disorder can manifest and it’s our behaviour and the choices that we make that define us, not the diagnosis.
It’s being more thought of as C-PTSD - and Amber is therefore misdiagnosed where she is actually a pathological narcissist. Researchers are more often saying BPD is either C-PTSD, or narcissist - depending on the traits. C-PTSD individuals can have narcissistic traits, like most people anyway, but they are NOT pathological narcissists. Amber Heard is definitely a narcissist: blame shifting, word salads, gas lighting, lack of empathy(despite her lies on the stand), pathological liar, appetite for drama and of course daily need for narcissistic fuel/supply.
One of my best friends has BPD and my friend is miles away from Ambers behavior.
In my opinion Amber "Rottenborn" reminds me of a real sadist.
Take care Vicky. In my opinion BPD can be a gift the day you know how to deal with it as all other stuff we people have to live with ....
I agree I have it and I am nothing like her. You can control your anger if on right medication and therapy. I don’t use drugs, drink or gamble and have been in a stable relationship for 14 years and have never cheated.
Thank you so much and the worst part is, that this is only gonna make us look like we’re the abusers in every situation, although we’re the ones, who often fall for abusers.
it's also depend on your cultural upbringing and that's why people behave appropriately
I suffer from BPD (also ptsd and psychotic depression). The moment I began reading about AH and her behaviours, I said to my husband she has BPD. A little way into the trial it was confirmed. Its frightening to watch her self destruct. Before treatment (8+ years of therapy, good medications that work for me and a wonderfully supportive partner and friends) I honestly believe I would have gone down the same path as her. I have BPD but could NEVER harm my partner how she has JD. I have genuine worries about how her diagnosis will affect the BPD community. Most BPD sufferers are just abused children who are emotionally stunted. During flares, my partner and friends have said I behave like a tantruming 6 year old, not a person with sinister and cruel motives. Not all BPD sufferers are like AH.
She’s a narcissist, not bpd, as she has a malicious intent to her actions
@@laaaah4577 sadly people with BPD can be very manipulative, narcissistic and malicious, just like people without BPD van be. I think the important thing to take from this is get treatment and take responsibility. I have done some awful things and at one point was walking a very dangerous path. Treatment saved my life.
I'm so glad you have that support and have found a path through. I lost a very good friend a few years ago who had BPD - undiagnosed until she was in her 30s - and to my mind, she hurt herself more than she hurt those around her. I wish she'd been diagnosed earlier and I wish the mental health services had been better equipped to assist her. I also wish I'd understood more at the time.
Love your comment here. I THINK AMBER IS A SADIST AND DO NOT HAVE BPD
I honestly think she has narcissism mixed in. It is worst than even BPD. She lacks empathy and is pretty entitled.
I’m currently divorcing a diagnosed borderline/histrionic. I can completely relate to what Johnny Depp has been through. It’s hard for me to listen to her testimony because it’s so very obvious to me, and it’s makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
I' d like to point out that people with BPD can also be empathetic, sincerely loving, and caring when they aren't having a meltdown; and not in a manipulative way. My daughter is classic BPD. She went many years with a bipolar diagnosis but that simply didn't cover the whole story. I understand that she may be both borderline and bipolar which may very well be. My main point is that after rages and meltdowns she feels terrible and us apologetic. From the little I have seen of Amber it doesn't seem she has any remorse for or take any responsibility for any things she had done. She seems to be a malignant narcissist.
When they’re throwing things at you and strangling you you tend to forget about their empathic side..
@@laaaah4577 the point Im making iscthat Amber doesnt seem to hava an empathetic or caring bone in hee body. She ssems to be a straiggt- up malignant narcissist; any charm or apparent seeming to care would simply be fake and manipulative on her part. That being said, I never even heard of the woman til a few dayscago, don' t know her, and am only going by what I am hearing and seeing in a video. I coukd be completely wrong.
@@asunnynight9592 I agree.
@@laaaah4577 i have bpd and have never been violent towards anyone. it’s important to remember that one size does not fit all with this illness and most of us are self aware and do everything we can to not let others be affected by our illness
@@asunnynight9592 I agree, I think he was referring mainly to the more severe cases and maybe just looking at the type of BPD he’s seen in criminal cases. definitely not representative of the everyday person struggling with this diagnosis
When I first got into therapy I was diagnosed as borderline. There were things about the DBT therapy that were useful, but for the most part it was not helpful. Being put in a group with a dozen other people diagnosed as borderline only became damaging when the facilitators didn't protect me from their verbal attacks.
Years later I was diagnosed with PTSD by a different shrink and treatment for that has been a great deal more helpful. My therapist is using EMDR which has helped me function far better.
I think part of the reason for the misdiagnosis was the abuse I suffered at the hands of my parents that I thought of as normal. It took me a lot of time and therapy to come to terms with it. The sexual abuse I suffered as a child was so hard for me to even say happened much less talk about. It made my behavior quite erratic and it is only in hindsight that I see it was PTSD.
Feel your pain bud. Very abusive childhood and it lasted for years. 59 now and still wandering around in a soup of possible diagnoses. Termed psychopathic, borderline, definitely not borderline, just a very naughty boy, depressed, not depressed, anxious, superiority complex, angry young man. Oh, and for the last four years I have been awaiting the GP functions of autism diagnosis to be completed.
Might sound like a Munchausen case, but by the time I was in infant school I had already been sent to child psychologists, and on it went. Recommendation for a special school but my father said : "No son of mine goes to a 'special' school."
So, I was resigned to a school system that would not recognise that the differences between me and most of the other kids was not a conscious act on my part. I was trying not to drown. Some teachers took pity and allowed me to get to the top levels of the course work, pass that and then let me read alone, away from the other kids.
I now understand the whole sorry mess, including the abuse my parents suffered. No one is there to blame: I am still responsible for my own actions, as were they. Difference is that I know that and they don't. Not their fault when it comes down to it.
I'm actually a really contented person now, and I'm looking after my folks, in their late 80's now. I grow loads of organic veg to feed us in the garden they paid for; I use my skills to maintain and beautify the place we live; I'm the chauffer and even their counsellor and so much more besides. I now feel sad for them that the world they lived in offered no opportunity to take time out and stare at their navels like I have done. It takes time and space to build yourself back, They are no different.
Majority are misdiagnosed unfortunately
But there is Complex post traumatic stress disorder which isn’t PTSD.. and CPTSD can definitely mimic some parts of borderline personality disorder like emotional disregulation , flashbacks , avoiding all places things and people at all costs - because that’s exactly what happened to me from suffering severe narcissistic abuse for years…..I wonder what you think of that Dr
You need group, and one on one, and coaching and psych
@@Noname-hs5lx Unfortunately, here in the UK, all of that is pretty much outside the remit of the mental health section of the National Health Service, and would be prohibitively expensive privately.
Unless you are a danger to yourself or others on an almost permanent basis, you are left to rot. The state benefit system for people with disabilities is cruel and very hard to access without going through the appeal processes, time and time again, even if your condition does not alter you must justify your claim at a maximum of every 3 years. Some people are harrassed by this system yearly, and so have several appeals running at once because the appeal process takes longer than the length of their benefit award.
This system is responsible for hundreds, if not thousands, of suicides due to the Kafkaesque nature of the benefit application process. It's not about assessing your needs and responding to them; it's about fighting tooth and nail to deny you state assistance whether you need it or not.
My mother had BPD and I was her target. Growing up I tried to find out what I had done to make her dislike me so much and I would try to be as good as I could possibly be without any success. My favorite place to hide was in my closet and I knew better than to ever give her direct eye contact. My father would take me to my grandparents every weekend to keep me away from her. For the longest time I thought she was bipolar. No one in the family would talk about it even after she abandoned my sister and I in an apartment for a year when I was in high school. My father didn't know due to a restraining order she had on him that wouldn't allow him near us or to communicate with us. I totally understand Dr. Curry's assessment.
My son committed suicide at the young age of 21 after his girlfriend, who he only knew for a few months, left him. I live in grief and regret almost every day because I don't feel like I understood his condition well enough and didn't take the necessary steps to keep him safe. If you know anyone with BPD, please be very patient and sensitive. They're not all bad people. On the contrary they have an incredible level of compassion, creativity, and depth that many people lack. The suicide rate among those suffering with BPD is higher than any other mental condition and 1 in 10 people end their life. For that reason, it's very important to be patient and understanding. Here are some guidelines I put together to help family and friends deal with someone that has BPD:
1. Avoid triggers that could set them off - For example, avoid yelling at them and instead of criticizing them when they’re frustrated, validate how they feel and emphasize you’re there to help and support them.
2. Do not place them in situations that could aggravate them - For example, don’t expect them to take four college classes at the same time or work a busy 50-hour week at a stressful job, especially when they’re still an adolescent. Only give them as much responsibilities as they can handle and provide them with a safe and calm environment at home.
3. Be compassionate - All your interactions should be done in love and compassion. Remember, they are highly sensitive to criticism and rejection. So instead of getting mad when they didn’t do something right, validate their frustration and offer your help.
4. Communicate clearly - People with BPD often misinterpret language or facial expressions and may not understand your true intentions. To prevent that from happening, be very specific when speaking to them. For example, instead of saying, “I’m busy right now, I can’t talk!” say, “I’m sorry, I’m really busy right now and I have to get this project done, but I should be done in around 30 minutes and then we can talk, ok?”
5. Keep them close - People with BPD can very quickly go from feeling on top of the world to becoming suicidal because someone hurt their feelings or they got fired from their job. For that reason, you should avoid letting someone with BPD from living by themselves and handle the stresses of life on their own. They need to be in the company of a responsible adult whenever possible and any instruments that could be used for self-harm (i.e., guns, drugs, knives, ropes) should be secured and put out of reach.
6. Keep them busy - People with BPD often live in their heads and spend a lot of time thinking about their troubles and pain. The best thing you can do to help them is keeping them busy with activities they enjoy. This can vary from enrolling them in sporting activities or working on projects around the house. As they say, “an idle mind is the devils workshop!”
I am very sorry for your loss. Don't eat yourself, you did the best you could. Thank you for your post.
Bless you for trying to help others…can I suggest you trust in and believe in Jesus Christ..He will help you and tell you the Truth…you will
Find the peace you desire
I am so sorry for your tragic loss. Your post is very important, and thank you for writing it! I think it's not just for BPD either. I've struggled with major depression, anxiety, childhood trauma, maybe even bipolar II, etc., and this is all very good advice for many of us and our loved ones. It seems to me amber may be more malignant narcissistic personality, and histrionic pd, because I'm not seeing any empathy or regret at all! Im sure you loved your son very much, and I hope you have found it in your heart to forgive yourself for what you could not have known at the time. I dare to say he has forgiven you too. God bless you. :-)
@@dianalang3844 Thank you! I already have and He's the main reason I can go on because I have the hope of seeing my son again!
@@claudiacarlson30 Thank you! Really appreciate your words of encouragement! Wishing you all the best with you own struggles and hope you have a very bright and fulfilling future! God bless you too!
As a woman with BPD, I can tell you that it feels like having your guts in the blender for years on end. Even if we're beautiful, intelligent, and seductive, I can tell you we're not happy and we don't feel like we got away with something.
I think the best way to describe living with someone who has bpd is that you're constantly walking on eggshells. The smallest gesture or remark can set them off. And no matter how much patience and understanding I have, being on the receiving end of it is not a pleasant experience.
That's why I'm so invested in this case, because I recognized it. I've been through that myself.
I know (or at least want to believe) not everyone with bpd is like that, but I guess i'm just jaded and hurt and those wounds still have not healed.
I can jab your left testy with a large ice pick if you want to get your mind off of things.
*gentle hugs*
I unfortunately have BPD and it's so sad to see situations like this happen because there's already such a bad stigma around it and this is just going to make it worse 💔 so many people I know with BPD/EUPD are secretly struggling including myself but we are decent and self-aware people healing and dedicated to getting better and it's so hard to be honest with others about your diagnosis because of how it's seen by others...I don't know if she has it but it doesn't excuse her behaviour at all
You’re not alone. I have it too. Hugs 🤗 to you 🌸💞
I have it too, 8 out of the 9 main traits. I echo everything you said, thankyou ☺ x
You're not alone my friend. And as you say not everyone behave like that. Decent people who struggle inside❤️🩹
Me too I have it....it makes so much sense because in her mind not all of the abuse happened, its a different place in our brain. It is accidental I feel for her...
I hate the list but apparently I have BPD, ADHD, ASPERGER TRAITS...I've managed it by lots of studies in anything that interests me plus after multiple relationships that fail not only due to me, I got a dog she has helped me immensely. Now I'm happy on my own for now until my 60s I thought I'm 52 this year ..... I ended up unmarried with no kids and feel I'm also very lucky in life I have my own large home friends around the world and I sacrificed alot for my own success ....i find its down to how independent u want to be, I have tried to apply this to everything now.....I'll be more ready later I have loved already but atm I'm pretty happy in my world now.
Everybody has problems, which they have to learn how to manage and be healthy. You seem to be on that journey. Wishing you good health.
We don't have to be "as bad as" Amber Heard for our maladaptive coping behaviors to have a profound & damaging effect on the psyches of those closest to us. Very few of us seem to want to acknowledge this.
Thank you for this
Some borderlines blame themselves way too much for everything and don't necessarily want fame. So it's much more complex than this
No. They blame everyone else and things that do not exist. They never blame self.
Cuz ..if they did... The disease would be curable.
The reason Dr Curry had to meet with amber and do diagnostic tests (which then led to her opinion of BHPD) is because it's part of amber's case against johnny alleging that she did indeed suffer ptsd from their relationship. So yes I agree it comes from a subjective place because she's looking for it, BUT it was court ordered and not necessarily only to align with JDs legal team's hypothesis but to serve both sides' specific arguments. So basically amber brought in on herself by claiming damages. Dr curry proved no damage, which also indirectly bolstered her PD dxs
Exactly, glad you made this comment.
Since Amber's s abusive childhood came up one has to ask if that is where PTSD started ( if in fact she has it)
@@stompthedragon4010 you can have PTSD more than once in your life from more than one thing
@@kayladenette5872 I understand. But if she already had it from childhood abuse its gonna be kinda hard to claim that Johnny caused it. After watching enough of this trial and listening to several hours of the recordings ' she' made, I dont believe a word she says.
@@stompthedragon4010 That’s not true, because the PTSD from her childhood abuse doesn’t necessarily present in the same way. I also it’s more likely she has CPTSD from childhood (which often is misdiagnosed as BPD)
another issue is *if* she had those symptoms previously - the only previous symptoms were nightmares iirc. now, it seems she has more symptoms than that (depending on who’s testimony you believe)
it’s possible both curry and hughes are correct; AH has BPD & PTSD (which certainly wouldn’t be strange)
it’s possible they’re both wrong and she has neither! (also believeable)
I personally don’t put much trust in any for-hire psychologist b/c psychology isn’t a hard science. I think both Dr. Curry & Dr. Hughes pandered to their clients wishes. & I think we’re all worse off for it
Dr. Curry wasn't the IPV expert, that was the expert witness for Amber. Amber's expert witness was Dr. Dawn Hughes. Dr Curry is a forensic psychologist. Dr. Curry kept her testimony to her evaluation of Amber, Dr. Hughes said that she did that too, then went on to relay what Amber told her!
They were both forensic psychologists, Dr Curry specialises in PTSD which I am sure is part of the reason that she was hired as it was the PTSD expert that said that AH didn't have PTSD. Agree that Dr Hughes' testimony had a large degree of reporting AH's stories as if she witnessed them.
I have borderline personality disorder is extremely hard to live with
💕 I'm sorry
My mother had BPD and Bi Polar. My father was ASPD. I really believe most of the people with these types of diagnoses need to be held accountable for their actions. All to often they are just given free reign-to destroy people and come out unscathed. They can be very slippery and sly .
What is ASPD?
@@stompthedragon4010 Anti-Social PersonalityDisorder
@@leolamarchand4586 ah! I should have guessed that
Bpd's don't come out unscathed. We hurt like fuck and constantly feel extreme guilt and remorse for the stupid shit we do, we hurt people we love. It hurts forever.
@@mishi144 I understand there has to be some sort of reaching out to rebuild and repair to those that have been hurt. Make amends. A simple sorry is not amends
OH! She absolutely "split" the therapists on the case. The psych that evaluated amber for her side is completely drawn in by amber. She accepts everything she says as fact and is clearly under Amber's control. Doctor curry had a much more objective opinion and also amber clearly hates Dr.Curry.
exactly
Lol, but dr corry dreams in the night of johnny depp 😂😂😂
Dr. Curry was hired by Depp...you know, her ex husband who's now suing her.
@@britvica How so?
@@williamgraham5630 you are a man, you can't understand.
I was diagnosed with BPD because my mother (some form of cluster B) used me as the scapegoat and needed all my behavior to be my fault and not a reaction to emotional neglect and emotional abuse. I have recently discovered, at 40 years old, that I actually have CPTSD and either sensory processing disorder or ASD - I was always told my reactions to sensory things I couldn’t handle was me being manipulative. I really learned about it and accepted I was a borderline and then hated myself because everyone thinks borderlines are THE WORST even though I didn’t behave that way and being able to let go of that has been a game changer.
Wow, I was told that I had BPD, but my current doctor laughed when I told him that. I have ASD and CPTSD as well, and I trust HIS diagnosis.
Diagnosis is the ONLY way to understand what you are dealing with. I remember writing an essay on the pros and cons of diagnosis. I am very pro diagnosis.
It was my understanding that Amber Heard agreed to be assessed by the psychologist in order to bolster her claim that she lives with severe PTSD brought on by the abuse she suffered at the hands of Johnny Depp.
But during the course of testing the doctor found her to be lying about that, and found instead, that based on her answers she ticked all the boxes for BPD and histrionic personality disorder. So, I do not agree with you that the doctor was trying to find a diagnosis to fit her.
Amber was her own undoing. There were over 500 questions with a specific standardized formula for interpreting the information given. The findings are the findings. She wasn't tricked or trapped. Rather, she was caught in a webb of her own making and Johnny's legal team had every right to have Dr.Curry read out the results of those tests in court. Amber herself, opened that door.
Dr. Curry also used audio recordings and depositions to make her conclusions, not just Amber’s self-reporting. I absolutely believe she was feigning PTSD, and as you said, caused her own undoing.
I agree. I think she or someone thought it would garner Amber sympathy. Sympathy is one thing but it doesn't excuse bad behavior.
Now that the pre trial motions have been released (or most of them) we now know that Amber was going for the PTSD claim and so had already been assessed by Dr Hughes to give that diagnosis. The assessment from Dr Curry happened because JD's side said if you are going to claim mental illness caused by JD then we need to be able to assess too. The court ruled that AH had to be assessed by the professional that JD's side chose (AH's side tried to get JD assessed too but they weren't claiming that AH caused him any mental illness so it was denied - that is what Dr Spiegel was originally hired for).
Crazy part is that if AH hadn't of been claiming PTSD there wouldn't have been Dr Hughes, Dr Spiegel or Dr Curry testifying and their testimonies definitely had a big impact.
Please discuss the 4 subtypes of Borderline Personality Disorder. I've struggled with BPD for most of my life, & do not want lay people to associate AH's presentation of the disorder, & all her bad behavior, with ME in any way. Because this diagnosis has been included in the testimony in this trial that everyone is tuned into, I'm worried about the negative fallout for all of us suffering from the disorder. I fear that AH has firmly established us as the new "villain," & that people are going to start throwing the term "borderline" around WAY to liberally, without adequate knowledge of the individual or the disorder to be an to even BEGIN to make such a diagnosis, much like the term "narcissist" has been tossed around over the past couple of years or so.
I think something that is NOT coming across in any of the videos I've seen discussing the trial & AH's diagnosis, is how very different one Borderine can be from the next.
We are also embued with some pretty good character traits as well. Borderlines are highly empathic. We can read other people's emotions with ease. We tend to be very creative as well. We value our relationships a LOT, & as a result, we are fiercely loyal. We're passionate about the things that we care about. We are quick to point out injustice, & we advocate for fairness in all of our activities & interactions. We are hella FUN. Our spontaneous side, while it gets us into trouble sometimes, often has us trying new things & going on memorable adventures, & talking our friends & loved ones into following our lead.
My best friend says that what makes me dangerous is that I can take the worst idea & communicate it in such a way that it SOUNDS absolutely reasonable, & like a lot of fun. And before you know it, we're sitting in a jail cell!
In my defense, I've only gotten us arrested twice in 26 years of friendship. 😏
AH does not seem to be experiencing all the shame & guilt usually associated with BPD. We KNOW our behavior is inappropriate (after we've calmed down, anyway) & are deeply ashamed & embarassed by what we've said or done. I just don't see any of that in AH.
Johnny Depp's reputation is on the mend, now that details about the couple's (s'posta been) private life have come out in court, thus garnering him sympathy in the court of public opinion. The Borderline community, though, has taken a devastating blow to OUR individual reputations. Amber Heard is a public relations nightmare, & there's no telling how long it will take us to recover from the damage she's done!
I had only gotten comfortable with sharing my diagnosis with other people in recent years. This created the opportunity for me to explain why I react the way I do sometimes, to warn those around me of specific triggers & pitfalls best avoided, & to apologize in advance for times I might get out of hand.
All that is gone now. I won't be sharing my diagnosis with anyone anymore. I feel like a social pariah!
And all thanks have gotta go to Amber Heard for that.
Anything you can do here on your channel to mitigate the damage she's done would be ever-so-appreciated!
Now how 'bout those 4 subtypes? Hmmm...? 😘✌🏼
You are correct, because you have BPD or PTSD or even complex PTSD doesn't mean you behave the way Amber did. More issues there Imo. Money!
Don't worry, I think most people know the majority of people with BPD are nothing like Amber.
Personally I see Amber as a malignant narcissist, not BPD. My daughter is BPD and has a very loving, caring, empathetic side. Yes she can fly into meltdowns and be triggered but she is generally sorry and apologetic when calmed down. Dr. Ramani on MedCircle is agreat source of info on narcissism, BPD, and other disorders and conditions. She also has her own channel not on Med Circle.
yes please i didn't realise there was sub groups.
AH isn't giving Borderline's a bad rep, psychiatrists and clinical psychologists are doing that by misdiagnosing people like AH. *Misdiagnoses happen, yes, but for the most part its a valuable service... but so is getting the word out about people with NPD and the other PD's, as well as the comorbid aspect. Most people that have some knowledge of the Cluster B personality type disorders will recognize that AH is not emblematic of a normal BPD, or HPD for that matter; those that don't can be forgiven their ignorance. That said, you should actually appreciate that narcissists are being exposed more widely instead of less, as people will most likely see that AH has less BPD and more NPD, thereby sparing the BPD's an unwanted and unfair spotlight. 💡
Amber is 1000% borderline. She is absolutely petrified of being abandoned, highly emotional, cannot accept any form of blame etc etc, the list goes on. If you have any doubt, listen to the audios uploaded by thatbrianfella on UA-cam and you'll see what I mean.
IMO she's 1% Borderline, 1% Histrionic, 10% Psychopath, and 988% Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Everyone seems to focus on her Borderline tendencies and either omitting or glossing over her (narcissistic) rages, entitlement, infidelity, grandiose notions, complete lack of empathy, gaslighting, lying, manipulations... all things more associated with NPD than Borderline or Histrionic personality disorders. I honestly don't even think she's that much Histrionic, that would be more like a Kardashian or maybe Pinkett-Smith (
On UA-cam his username is ‘increadibly avarage’, the one you mentioned is his Twitter name actually :)
She's not highly emotional
@@user-ke4hi2el5k yeah she is. if only bc she gets angry a lot
Shes 1000% percent Narcissist. Thats it. BPD is a gender biased Diagnose to avoid calling woman Narcissists.
I suffered a relationship with a borderliner. The book, "Stop Walking on Eggshells", helped me a lot. That, and not engaging ever again.
Haven't heard of book but title speaks volumes . Good for you breaking free!
Thanks will read this book & yes no engagement is vital.
@@Makeeverydayyourbestday I had the title wrong. It is "Stop Walking on Eggshells".
@@sublimeblush will read although I remained alone now for nearly 12 years. Don't know if you know the Scottish word " scunnered" , lol 🤣 prefer just me and my all grown up kids. 💜💕 I am not saying never! 🙂
That’s sounds good, must look it up, in this case fact she started confrontations & chased him around the house,
means she had no fear of violence at all.
Having been through dv, to do that is just unthinkable???
Thanks Dr, as usual informative & thought 💭 provoking. My son’s ex was same diagnosis & our whole families lives were damaged by her. We supported her, loved her, tried to get her help but nothing was enough. She has no care for anyone except creating drama. She collected multiple animals and left them traumatically for them neglected. Both her grandparents told me that she was a piece of work & protect my son. He has taken 2 years to understand what happened and rebuild the friendships she attacked. I had no idea such a condition existed & even though very experienced, having her in our inner circle was like being with a shape shifter and we were all out of our depth!
I myself was in the same situation along with the entire family who loved her dearly. The whole family tried to help but she just left for a whole new life with a whole new person and left behind animals as well but the most disturbing part is she left her son behind. And now that her son is older has to contend with all that and seeing her on the internet claiming to be a victim. Bizarre. Our family even tried to speak with her family but it is just bizarre all the lies and trickery and stonewalling from her family. Wierd and incomprehensible. So much family dysfunction that no one wants to bring outin the open to actually get true help and heal. Secrets and trauma to their grave. Unhealthy family systems and dynamics. So sad
@@kconnor2371 valuable share
I was mis-diagnosed as BPD when I actually had autism and c-ptsd. This was in the UK. BPD took years to be removed and it still pops up and needs to be corrected.
The audio/video of some of AH's exchanges with JD sure did sound like intense distress over "abandonment". Her whole testimony - even the tearless 'crying' and fast-shifting facial contortions - seemed to be underpinned by flashing ANGER - even though what she was describing would be felt as very SAD by most people = the loss of a close relationship. Both AH and JD got together verrrry quickly, and after the year-long 'honeymoon' phase, their connection became increasingly toxic, abusive. She had no friends supporting her in court.
Observing AH's behaviours helped me understand 'borderline' much better - I feel lucky to have never known anyone like this in my life. Thanks for the explanation of "splitting" - which I have never fully understood.
I’m so glad that you made the distinction between mental illness and personality disorder. I’m not keen on the “suffers from” description of personality disorders either.
My aunt has BPD and it’s bad. We went to Costco and lost sight of her. So we decided to check out our items. We decided to wait outside for her. She came out in a RAGE. She refused to speak to us and when she opened the truck of her car, she began to unload her cart by literally throwing her items into the truck. She would hold the item as if she was pitching on a mound and hurl them. We got into the car and she drove at 100mph all the way home, swerving between cars. I almost called 911. People with BPD are a living nightmare and are the most rotten people on earth.
Maybe she is also NPD?
I have BPD, am an avid #MentalHealthAwareness advocate and spoken word performer, and I love this so much. I travel the country trying to bring that awareness on stages, in classrooms, hospitals, and on my UA-cam channel, so I get excited when I see other advocates.
Hi, two years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD and I was relieved that someone could finally tell me why I felt like I did. I was diagnosed because I was knocked down on a pelican crossing 40 years ago and still have nightmares about the pavement rushing towards me and stopping a few centimetres from my face. I guess the term PTSD wasn’t known then. it has been a long journey of not being able to cross roads if cars are coming towards me, fearing roundabouts because cars come from all directions at me and even crossing the road on foot.
I am actually glad that I now have a name to what I feel and my grown up sons never knew how difficult a walk to the local park was for me. The injuries are getting worse now that I am older, but I feel I have been brave for the last 40 years and even though I have to have a stick when I go outside, I am proud that I managed to get this far. Stubborn determination with a sassy attitude..... that’s me.
Love your channel, I have worked on the front line of ASD for over 44 years and my difficulties enabled me to have an amazing amount of empathy for those in my care. I helped families in crisis to stay together and live a higher quality of life and I helped them to achieve things they never thought they would.
Now that I physically can’t work anymore my brain refuses to not be able to help others and I have written a book on all aspects of ASD in five environments with plenty of experiences of over 4 decades to back it up. Never give up is my philosophy in life....there is always someone that could do with your empathy.
Thank you for your empathy in the work that you do Dr Das, you make a difference to people’s lives for sure.
Regards
What makes Amber's flavor of Borderline so malignant & toxic are the co-morbid Cluster B traits of both the narcissistic & sociopathic variety which run parallel to her BPD. Just my two cents! ✌️
THIS. I mean, we can't diagnose her. But these are my thoughts exactly. The audio and photos she took are supposed to prove her case but it's just chilling because it's showing her malignant intentions.
I agree, she has NPD, with sociopathy and bdp only traits
Yup
Almost half of people diagnosed with Bpd are comorbid with Npd, these toxic and dangerous combinations are very usual.
That's been my own thoughts, too. Just to speculate Amber Heard does come across as pathologically narcissistic and having traits that one sees with individuals who have sociopathy.
I find it to be fascinating and somewhat creepy that people suffering from BPD aren't only constantly changing their opinions and feelings towards themselves, their friends, family members and partners, but that they also often change their memories about how they've felt about something or somebody. When I get to know somebody and at first like that person, I might change my feelings towards that person later, but I will never change the memory of having liked that person at first. People with BPD can totally change this kind of memories, they even sometimes "remember" having being "raped", when in fact they themselves inititated the sexual contact without being drunk or on drugs, they later "remember" it totally different and they don't necessarily lie about these "memories". I once visited a music festival with some of my friends, a friend of a friend I hadn't known before, seemed to enjoy himself all day, until one of the last bands playing pissed him off for some reason. He got really angry and ranted about what a shitty day he have had all day. When I told him that to me me he had seemed to have enjoyed himself until that one band had annoyed him, he got aggressive towards me, yelling at me, threatening me. I later got to know that he suffers from BPD, but at the moment it happened, I was totally surprised by his sudden rage. Later that day on my way home I got mugged and severly injured. But I can still rememeber having had a rather fun day untill I got mugged.
Creepy? STOP 🛑
Sorry, but I also have been in a relationship to somebody suffering from BPD about twenty years ago and it has been a very intimidating and abasing experience. I got too close to one of them and got burned, so I try to avoid them, as they really scare me. If I was still doing social work, I could probably handle having to work with clients suffering from BPD, but I really try to keep them out of my private life if possible.
@@NKA23 I’m sorry that you had to go through all that, but I find the word creepy offensive.
Amber is creepy but it has nothing to do with her BPD.
@@KitKatSukiKat Oh, it does, she also seems to show some anti-social tendencies, like lying about her relationship with JD, damaging his reputation and career, her violence and leaving poo in JD's bed, but this sort of aggression and recklessness has very much to do with her BPD. I didn't mean "creepy" in a offensive way and I wasn't talking about you at all. I just wanted to express my personal fear of people with BPD and of BPD as such.
Yes, I agree that Dr Curry would be diagnosing AH from a very subjective viewpoint. However, 90% of her testimony was describing the disorders, not so much of what she observed with AH. From my view, she need not have even met with AH: she could have just described the disorder and most of us would have reached the conclusion that AH has BPD just from watching and listening to the tapes. Boggles my brain that AH made all those recordings thinking they would prove her point of Johnny being an abuser! That also proves (to me) that she has a very skewed view of what was going on in their lives.
Bit childish but also dangerous. I would have walked out!
That's quite typical of borderline. They mediate their perceptions and memories through their emotions, quite literally with them "how I feel about something is the truth". I've watched one make insane assertions about really basic stuff purely based on how they're feeling that day.
All external viewing it seems.
@@MadCatLady28 Are you saying they just act on their present feelings at that point? Just wondering if I understood you. Meaning they don't look to their past experiences to make involved decisions about the present? Is that why people with PD have specific traits like outbursts? They can't relate to the past or it's too painful?
@@Makeeverydayyourbestday not exactly. They manufacture memories and events to suit their emotions. It's not deceptive as such, more like hard out delusion. So... if they're in a mood, they will swear black and blue that you "started something" and I think they genuinely believe it. Their experiences and memories are malleable in this way.
I'm honestly confused by the BPD diagnosis because she's so scheming, vindictive, manipulative and lacking in empathy. Some of her abuse was explosive, but some was very planned and thought out. I really thought there would be classic malignant narcissism in there somewhere.
Then again, I'm not a psychologist, I just watch a lot of UA-cam. 😄
I agree. Us armchair psychologists have a right to an opinion ;)
Another armchair psychologist here. 🤭
I agree she is definitely narcissistic
Comorbid
She has 2 personality disorders already. No harm im throwing a 3rd, narcissistic personality disorder into the mix. 😉
All I can’t unread is… SHE SHAT THE BED! I also reckon there a smidge of narc going on as well as the EUPD/Histrionic diagnosis. This is one fckd up woman.
About time a psychiatrist says PTSD is caused by a life threatening event/events.
Years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, major depression, generalized anxiety, other things.
PTSD is embarrassing. When I had it every time a man would just raise their hand around me or approach me in what seemed be in an assertive way I automatically fell to the ground and put my arms up over my face and head. Also it was exhausting.. I ended up drinking a lot to be able to sleep at night.
Anyway it seems a lot of psych Drs on here downplay it to being just anxiety, depression, and or low self esteem. Not saying having those things isn't bad, because I have struggled with those things myself, but there's more to having PTSD than having those things.
PS I say when I had it, because I'm not constantly on alert anymore and I don't have night terrors, along with other things.
Always enjoy your videos and hearing your take on Dr. Curry’s testimony was interesting. I do wish you had spoken about the MMPI 2 tho, as I would like to learn more about it. Perhaps you could do a full length video on that topic!
You described my ex girlfriend to a T. It was such a confusing time, she'd be happy and then literally 10 minutes later, would switch to being morose and monosyllabic or kind one minute then hostile and angry the next........and seemingly for absolutely no reason whatsoever. She had idealised me then all of a sudden she was antagonistic towards me, again, for no apparent reason. I knew soon enough that I had to get away from her because she didnt see any of this, even when I pointed it out to her. She refused to go to counselling, she refused to admit she was ever wrong and her relationship with the truth was non existent. Now, a couple of years later, I can see she was 100% boderline and to be honest, had I known this information back then I would have ended the relationship as soon as I saw that first red flag. Lesson learned(the hard way as usual).
That sounds like gaslighting, and yes, a huge red flag, from my own experience. Glad you managed to get out.
AH is a textbook BPD. Ticking all the boxes I have experienced with my borderline ex. I had to accept her condition as a psychological handicap (e.g. incapable of empathy and handling blame and responsibility of what she causes and inflicts), so I could understand and process what she's done to me, herself (yes, BPD are victim of themselves), and anyone around her. Including our kids!
Just horrible!
I really disagree with the BPD diagnosis, someone with BPD act's on an unstoppable emotion, all her actions in the past and present clearly show no regret even proudness in the damage and pain her actions and lies have caused. The fact she filmed everything from the start to frame her spouse and the lack of empathy, emotions and a clear self centered grandiose behavior where she thinks that "I am better then everybody else" in every situation I mean it all screams Narcissist and or Sociopath.
@Dave Bieleveld No they change into the child they were when the trauma was developed, any other sign of a different personality is the narcissist trying to copy emotions or behavior he or she learned from other's or tv.
I think even narcissists can feel empathy at times. But sociopaths cannot. It's hard to understand the full capacity of her illness, but BPD has many subtypes and some of those have narcissistic characteristics. Just perhaps not enough to qualify for the NPD diagnosis. I can say that her idealizing and devaluing "I hate you don't leave me" and her explosive anger is typical borderline behavior. But a lot of the other symptoms can be hard to tell, and with some people, entirely unoticeable. Because it really is a condition of how you think about the world and yourself and your relationships, so it isn't always visible or obvious.
Narcissistic traits are apart of BPD, especially when one splits and devalues someone. She’s a classic example of the narcissism and grandiosity of a BPD patient when splitting
@@dianarusnov292 I have been in 2 BPD relationships and 1 Covert NPD relationship in both the BDP relationships I felt very loved and it was that they generally cared about me and apologized after going into a rage or tantrum, it was a rollercoaster and it might have felt walking on eggshells most of the time I still felt they just wanted love in return and I learned allot from these relationships. The relationship with the Covert Narcissist oh jeez where do I even start, Everything about this person seemed to be fake and the lies started from day one cheating and disrespecting, gaslighting the whole ordeal I felt so alone in this relationship, communicating was impossible with this person and the abuse was so subtle, it could always happen and it made me feel like I lost myself. This person didn't care, never did not for one moment. The aftermath was a living hell and I can honestly say I had several trauma's and anxiety at the end of this relationship.
@@icwhy4366 Sorry this happened. Hope you're better! This is my typical experience as well. I have Quiet BPD that is often internal and I seem to attract narcissists or have them in my life and they're a headache. Generally very cold and manipulative. And I'm very sensitive and emotional. And then I know people with BPD who are like Amber and have a narcissistic display, but beneath it is still those core BPD issues of emptiness and abandonment. What I meant in my prior comment is that I've heard that narcissists have selective empathy and have the ability to feel it but choose not to. Not sure if that's true.
I was diagnosed with BPD in the 80s. It was never followed up clinically and was a struggle to unwind myself. A label would have given me a place to begin in realigning myself with who I want to be. Labels are there for a reason. If you don't believe me, go into your pantry and remove all the labels from your cans. See how well that improves cooking.
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Thank You for this 👍🏼 I personally have PTSD and have dealt with people who are borderline and histrionic and some other things as well, it's quite a myriad of human conditions
And once they are 'abandoned' (which happens when you can no longer cope with the out of control roller coaster behaviours) there's countless accounts of people who are then falsely accused of stuff, smear campaigns etc.
In anger it's like 'you hurt me by leaving, I'm going to hurt you back'
i think referring to people with bpd/traits of bpd as "a bit of a nightmare" is stigmatizing for a group that is already severely stigmatized. saying a relationship with them can be a bit of a nightmare would be more fair, if you must use the word. i know it's just a slight difference in phrasing but it matters. "maybe you know someone like this, maybe that relationship is extremely challenging/tumultuous/disorienting/painful/frustrating" is descriptive, validating, and true without placing judgment on the person with bpd.
Respectfully, I think a relationship with someone with BPD can truly be a bit of a nightmare
@@alexbee3736 i definitely understand that! i don’t think it’s fair to call /them/ a nightmare
@@alexbee3736 not me since I have ‘quiet borderline’
@@xepru neurotypicals are stupid
@@xepru at the 2 min-ish mark "they can be a bit of a nightmare". I see what you mean, and I was recently told I'm exhibiting shallow affect (by my therapist). And I certainly wasn't trying to assert that it's a good blanket statement to call all people with BPD a nightmare.
Liked your observations. When watching AH testify in this trial, and viewing her previous recorded deposition, my gut reaction was mostly everything she said seemed phony, concocted, intended to make JD look bad, and her to look like a victim. Dr Curry helped me validate my instincts with the clinical definitions of behavioral disorders that I was uneducated about. When I was a highschool instructor and counselor for at-risk-youth I worked with some extremely abused young people, and saw up close how the abuse effected them, and how it manifested in their behavior, and their reactions to interviews and stress. Some of their accounts and stories affected me deeply, I often had to hold back my tears. I would weep sometimes elsewhere when I was reflecting. With AH my sense is that her behavior is contrived and her stories are hollow fabrications.
I think no one really knows how a borderline feels because each one is slightly different just with some overlapping symptoms. Complex ptsd is often misagnksed as boarderline.most these people have trauma
That lack of empathy, the need for supply like an itch that will never be scratched, the absolute refusal to accept any responsibility, and the feeding off of other people's pain gives me more narcissistic vibes than bpd.
Feeding off another person's pain in particular. That's called sadism.
My adopted brother (we grew up together but not biological) has BPD, I do not have a relationship with him due to his refusal to get help. Also I had a coworker who had BPD, she made our office a living hell
It's not even people with BDP. I think the problem is mainly when people lack insight into their own behavior I think therapy is just learning to cope with people who won't get therapy.
Hey~I've recently graduated with a degree in medicine and I aspire to become a psychiatrist, I've also been diagnosed with Borderline personality disorder about 6 years ago. To be honest, cbt and dbt has helped me so much over the past years, not to say that psychiatric medication don't have their place. The amount of pain I've been through drives me towards psychiatry in so many ways. I believe mental illness needs a multidisciplinary team to make a large impact on the patients overall health.
I can relate to how a lovely human being can try to help someone with BPD(like JD) usually they tend to be over the top when everything goes well, caring, protective and very intense. But it goes both way, depending on their surroundings, and their education, they are so fearful that they often make bad choices on impulse and spiralling compulsively in the past memory or in the futur desire. I just left my ex with BPD since I was arguing too much and I was afraid that she could be destructive to my temper. Even thought I loved her, I was unable to have the necessary space and step back of the emotional entanglement. I’m on a 6 months break just so I hope we can still be friends if that’s possible.
No! You left me Pascal! There will be hell. To pay!
This is totally me. I'm a lot better than I was, after intense private therapy, but I just hide it better. It's extremely hard to get a diagnosis in Britain. In my experience, everything just gets bundled under severe depression and anxiety. My background is loss of both parents, Foster care, neglect, abuse, trauma, so it fits with what you said.
" but I just hide it better." You've touched a chord. Take good care of yourself :)
@@alexbee3736 bless you Alex
In the borough I worked in there was very little specialist input for people diagnosed with EUPD/emerging EUPD. I have known of people being diagnosed after an initial review in the community and then discharged.
Seemingly, little use of structured assessments/schedules. I also witnessed casual referencing to a personality disorder diagnosis in a ward round (when there was an extant, primary diagnosis). Once diagnosed, people had no access to a specialist service within the Trust and only a lucky few might be offered mentslisation based arts therapy.
In respect of the clinician giving evidence, I felt she focussed solely on the negative aspects of EUPD (even though there was nothing innaccurate about her clinical perspective on traits and DSM guidance). The ICD also offers a slightly more nuanced approach as it identifies the differences between an explosive aspect versus a quieter manifestation.
Personally, having lived with an Amber, I have no doubt that JD was impacted psychologically as well as physically. What this case highlights is that life is nuanced and complex and the split arguments from legal teams often fall short in describing the reality of relational conflict.
Hi, I just discovered the channel and I love it. I'm a 43 year old recovered addict who has a diagnosis of EUPD. From an early age I was very symptomatic, always falling out with people, clinging to relationships and sabotaging them when I thought they were going to leave me. I would self harm and my behaviour was very impulsivie. I also started using alcohol and drugs at around 14 years old which would develop into a debilitating addiction that I only escaped six years ago. I'm in the final year of a psychology BSc so I understand a little about BPD. The strange thing is, not only has my substance use disorder subsided over the last six years, but my BPD symptoms have become MUCH less pronounced. I know that not using substances is playing a large role in this, but I also feel that perhaps my recovery from addiction is a side affect of my BPD becoming less pronounced (as opposed to vice versa). I've been clean before, granted for less time, and my BPD symptoms have persisted. This time round though, I am no longer clinging to relationships, self harming, getting into arguments, acting impulsivity, sabotaging relationships etc etc. I have a job, and as I've aluded to am studying. I have been taking a large dose of quetiapine for over ten years now and maybe because I'm not using that is able to take effect but I feel as though I no longer have the symptoms that were so obvious and derogatory to my life. I think the job and studying is playing a huge part in recovery from both addiction and BPD. I've never felt better. I'm finally really enjoying my life and I like who I am today. My life is full of wonderful friends and family and I feel so lucky to have survived, because I VERY NEARLY didn't. Thanks for the video.
I’m not a mental health professional but in the context of this case I think the JD legal team had solid grounds to appoint an expert witness that could speak to Amber Heard’s possible diagnoses since it was her who first publicly said that she suffered from PTSD and other psychological issues due to the alleged abuse by Johnny Depp. The legal team is trying to offer a different narrative to what she said and establish that maybe what she said is not entirely true, hence there’s space for the defamation claim. Plus she opened the door to the psychological evaluation talk as those admissions came directly from her.
Excellent & through content, very well spoken. Thank you. I wasn’t on the jury. I’ve only seen a slice of evidence in the case of AH’s BPD evaluation. After reading the previous comments I can speak from personal experience that if you have BPD then please, please do not be dismissive and get professional help. Also, avoid drinking, drugs, lying, and fame at all costs. To all the sweet ones living with BPD never forget that your partners may love you more than the world yet they do not deserve to be crushed by your dis regulated emotional tsunami unleashed in moments when you lose control. We are all in this together. We all need to take responsibility for our actions and continue to learn ways to find peace in ourselves. IMHO, your mileage may vary, yet I still love you to…
İ agree with you. Most possibly, a simple borderline would have been sitting at home, still, waiting for the partner to come back. Making it public, craving for more attention, having no regrets, and creating a global mess wouldn't be something a simple borderline prefers to do, it more likely fits the HPD side. Also, her attitude towards people of lower social level that you mentioned might be explained by narcissistic behaviour rather than bpd, I believe.
She confuses me a lot, i think we are watching a dangerous mixture of all.
my mother had borderline paranoid schizophrenia, which is well explained here, ty for this
She actually seems more typical of someone with NPD to me. I'm not a doctor, but I do know about narcissm! I also know that clinicians are hesitant to give the NPD label to women as it's still seen as something that men have and women tend to get the BPD label
Totally agree!
I agree AH has NPD, with few Bpd traits.
I think Amber is a narcissist too
Whole other topic here but WHY is Dr. Grande's pop psychology recommended more than your educational and honest channel? I would have never found you if I didn't see your analysis on Dr. Grande. That guy erks me to my core. Happy to be here on your channel. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us psych enthused minds. ❤
Welcome aboard
Like listening to someone describing my ex wife. Mind you I also think she has elements of dependent and also narcissistic personality disorders too.
She is pure NPD, why Curry didnt want to say it, I don't know!
Like Curry: "she has BPD"
All the YT community: "We agree, she is a narc!" 😁
Splitting is not splitting people. It’s the splitting of behaviors. One moment caring and loving, the next angry and hostile.
I had been diagnosed with PTSD while in a narcissistic relationship for 11 yrs. I was not in a life-threatening situation, although the life of my mental and emotional health were threatened. I suffered dusassociation very badly, night terrors, intense emotional flashbacks, severe panic attacks, taking risks with my safety to the point of self-harm, severe anxiety, fear of leaving my home, trouble sleeping, and the list goes on.
Alot of the symptoms for BPD and NPD overlap. Her mood shifts is trauma bonding. I would like to know the difference between the anger outbursts and narcissistic rage. Both diagnoses are so similar. I dont believe Heard is promiscuous, and it seems like she gets attention for being beautiful rather than using her beauty to mesmerize and seduce men. She's quite interpersonal exploitative as Depp has stated he shared his deepest and emotional secrets and experiences only to have them used against him as a weapon. Also Heard herself has stated (paraphrasing) that if Depp voiced his abuse, no one would believe him. NPD involves splitting, seeing your significant other as competition, trying to control a public image and reputation, and all of it.
I think AH has NPD, and few traits of Borderline. Try to search on YT the "difference beetween NPD and BPD", you will learn a lot. Anyway anger is always about a boundry, trying to protect yourself. Npd rage is the same.
I have BPD. I’m afraid people will just assume all of those diagnosed are automatically abusive.
It’s painful. As a survivor of I intimate partner relations, she is full of 💩. She is making it so much harder for the rest of us! It is horrible. Toxic relationship-yes. But, she is clearly the aggressor!
Mrs H ...A person I know who has BPD... I can't be around her for long periods....I've had to get the Police involve on a few occasions as she suffers with sleeplessness and struggles to be on her own...She's very needy...She's violent and causes arguments cos she seems to love being the centre of attention and drama... I helped the person I'm talking about to get help and with her getting help I learnt by her treatment and studied it so I could support her... I go on holiday just to come home to find that on top of her meds she was taking drugs and drinking alcohol ...She was hurting herself and smashing things up that I had to phone out the mental health team who sectioned her....Her childhood was horrific but as an adult she kept blaming other for things that they hadn't done...The Police got sick of her that she ended up in a Psychiatric hospital for months cos at the click of the fingers she's go from a lunatic to the nicest person in the world.... I had to move away from her eventually as her behaviour was effecting my child, myself and other family members....
I think it’s important to understand that people with bpd can be and often are victims of abuse themselves. I’m not downplaying the often damaging behaviour of people with bpd when they are acting out, nor am I commenting on heard/ depp. I think how it was used in this trial is cynical and stigmatising.
Well said
Any person with mental health issues that are not managed are vulnerable. The really scary and sad part is these are the challenges that can lead to really horrific outcomes.
i was diagnosed bpd, but im self-aware, and my partner is kind and understanding, I try to self-reflect and understand that the issues might stem from me, being diagnosed was the greatest thing that ever happened to me, because it's allowed me to work on myself. watching AH makes me sick because I can understand the rage and emotional instability but I would never do the things she did. it makes me feel sick when I hear about the trial
I don't believe there is enough money to have me fake a profile of an individual. Too much invested to risk losing the license. Done properly, these forensic evaluation tools are very reliable and objective. I'd say that a treating practitioner would have a bias on the interpretation but other than at first visit a treating practitioner cannot administer or interpret these tests. But see Dr. Curry (Why do you call her Shannon Curry? You don't even do that with Dr. Todd) anyway Dr. Curry did an amazing and thorough job on the assessment, interpretation, and expert testimony.
She met with Johnny Depp's attorneys and contracted with them to refute a PTSD diagnosis and to provide a BPD diagnosis. They announced that they had a psychologist who would refute the PTSD diagnosis. Then she met with Amber. Does that order of events seem proper to you?
To be fair on Dr Shannon Curry she did say during her testimony that she was hired to evaluate if Heard had PTSD but then decided she needed to review the personality disorder as well. Whether she was looking for it is another matter entirely - after all, she did also review all the evidence whereby she would have come across the tape recording where Depp said she has a Borderline Personality Disorder.
Not every single borderline does and says all those things. Each one is so different some have varying degrees of empathy. Soemtimes people are ass holes to someone with BPD and then if that person doesn't like them for good treason it's blamed on them being difficult. So the stigma is strong. I've got eupd and I've never punched a friend. When I see someone in pain it kills me
Very fair points. You should check out my video on the labelling of personality disorder.
@@APsychForSoreMinds thanks for taking on board my Comment so well. Yes I'll take a look.
Curry, in actuality, predicted how Herd would later behave on the witness stand, don't you think? Beautiful!
Agree 👏🏼
@@thebestlife1174 See on this UA-cam channel: WH Reviews, the episode titled "Dr. Shannon Curry Perfectly Predicted Amber Herd's Testimony!"
@@orlandofurioso7958 I'll check it out 👍🏼 thanks!
I think you're wrong in one thing, if I may make this point. About the expert witness who diagnosed Amber Heard of those two personality disorders. The defence had no choice BUT to get an expert witness to prove their points from a scientific perspective. And, I imagine, this was accepted by the court prior to the expert interviewing and assessing the defendant, who defamed the plaintiff, as otherwise, Amber Heard would have never accepted the medical examination. Therefore, I don't see how that can be dodgy, especially since any expert on the stand would never risk their professional reputation just to give a desired diagnosis. It doesn't behoove them to be proved wrong or misleading, as that would tarnish their entire professional reputation. So I have to disagree with you on that point.
Dr. Hughes has had her expert testimony stricken from the records in precious cases due to very clear bias. I believe she was stricken from R. Kelly and Mr. Ray a Boy scouts case.
So while you may disagree other lawyers and judges alike have agreed on her unprofessionalism and bias in such cases.
@@brittywren2877 I don't exactly disagree. In fact, I found Dr. Hughes unprofessional in the extreme. However, she was aided and abetted in her bias by both judge and lawyers on both sides. I found that to be ridiculous. So I have to ask: WHY?! My disagreement is only pointing to this strange phenomenon which the US courts seem to think is OK. It wouldn't be acceptable in Europe, as far as I know. An "expert" should not be biased either way. Science doesn't veer one way or the other. It's neutral. At least, it's supposed to be!
@@szendrich I believe what you're seeing on jd's side is a part of their strategy to let her make her bias apparent. Bc if she shows it, it will in fact make her seem incapable of an unbiased expert opinion therefore discrediting her testimony in the jurors eyes. Thats just my assumption based on what I'm watching. Every team will have a different strategy. Idk what strategy ah team has if any at all.
@@brittywren2877 Let's hope it works. You never know with a jury. Depends on their own personal biases.
A Psych For Sore Minds ... ha ha ha ... I love it. I've subscribed after seeing you on Sean Atwood's channel.
So Dr Das, my questions are:
If someone has BPD should we feel sympathy for them?
Generally speaking, can BPD be cured - or even treated?
it can definitely be treated my sister has bpd and i've seen a lot of improvement over the years. I know you have to set strong boundaries which is hard for me. I know I'm not a shrink but hopefully this helped some.
A personality disorder is chronic... Usually therapy and medication resistant. Therapy is usually to help manage or assist with interpersonal impairments that can or do occur.
I have BPD and other comorbid mental health issues including ptsd. My psychiatrist helped me learn to hate myself less when he explained that ppl with BPD suffer immensely and the person who's harmed most by their behaviour is themselves. Yes, it's treatable. HOWEVER, people with bpd are very reluctant to believe their diagnosis and almost become combative about it which means their quite unlikely to take part genuinely in treatment. Over the past 15 or so years I've made incredible improvements but it had damaged so many of my relationships with family & loved ones already. My other mental health conditions amplified it all a million times. I'm so glad I accepted my diagnoses and took steps to correct and do a lot of work on addressing why I do what I do & come to realise that I can & have gotten better, it's not my fault, I grew up maladapting to my surroundings & had to survive. Show compassion because they're suffering but you should have very strict boundaries because some of us can emotionally manipulate & take advantage. Boundaries become very blurred for some and it can happen really quickly. ✌🏻❤
@@Zara_Brown I hope ytou are getting better, BUT it is an absolute fallacy that the person with BPD is the one most harmed. Most people with BPD--perhaps not you--drive the basically good people upon whom they pray to the edges of despair, madness, and ideations of harm against self and others. They destroy utterly the reality of those with whom they are in intimate relationships, charm mutual friends and therapists. and are without remorse.
yes, you should have sympathy for them. it's not a choice, and they are suffering. they don't want to hurt like this and they don't want to hurt the people around them. in fact, people w bpd feel emotions very strongly, and the guilt of hurting your loved ones can be sickening.
and yes absolutely it can be treated. i don't know that it would be called "cured," but i personally know people who no longer fit the criteria for bpd after years of therapy. i don't think it's fair to say people w bpd are unlikely to take part in treatment. but unfortunately, not many treatments are tailored to help those with bpd. dialectical behavioral therapy (dbt) can work wonders, but it's not very accessible. there's a limited number of qualified therapists, and it can be quite expensive.
I enjoyed this video and have subscribed. I had a friend for many years who I now believe to be a borderline. She loved me and then hated me. I had noticed how she was constantly fighting with her husband or family members and often wondered what that was all about.
I was diagnosed with PTSD recently at age 60. I believe this all started when I was almost strangled by an ex boyfriend who had been abusive. I was 21. I often found myself being anxious with rapid heartbeat and when I look back , it was always around acts of DV. Not mine but people who were friends. It doesn’t seem to bother me too much. And now I know when it is happening and usually why. Our minds are very powerful. So, keep up the good work. Lisa
Unfortunately, I married my mother more than once. Being in a relationships with a BPD person is the absolute worst. They are experts at gaslighting, and tend to be drawn to people who are basically decent, only so they can annihilate them with glee once they have sucked them in. It makes the non-mentally ill partner crazy, because there is no solid ground. Sympathy should be reserved for those harmed by BPD people, and BPD people need to be held to full account.
Also, thank you for calling out the appropriation of PTSD. As someone with actual PTSD, I raise this all the time with people who embrace it because of some minor, transitory, it's just life event that left them unsettled in any way. Living with PTSD, GAD, and true depression is not fun, especially when competent treatment is elusive. Those who evoke these labels because they have an emotional hangnail sicken me.
"I married my mother more than once"?????
@@kells4152 I'm guessing their mother had a diagnosis of bpd and they married two different people with similar pathologies. It's not uncommon. I don't think they literally married their mother twice.
Yes, PTSD is carefully diagnosed. I didn't know I had it (makes sense tho) until a neuropsychologist diagnosed me late in life. I had previously only related it to veterans.
You can both hold people with BPD responsible for their actions and still have compassion for them. Given the amount of combinations symptoms can have..two people can have the same diagnosis and have totally different presentations.
When I re-watched Dr. Curry’s testimony I think when she was actually describing the cruelty and repressed rage, she was talking about personality traits of Amber’s 3-6 results on the MMPI-2 which has traits of paranoid personality disorder. Not specifically about BPD and I think Amber’s trauma and the patterns she has developed are very specific to her. I don’t think she has PTSD either but definitely think you can get PTSD from non life threatening events.
AH has NPD
The only thing I’m yet to see from Amber in regards to her episodes is the immense shame and guilt that comes from having splitting episodes. I was one of types who did use degrading language, very cruel at times and then used physical force to stop that person leaving in any way I could. As a result once the episode had passed I would always end up severely embarrassed/ashamed of my actions and sometimes suicidal because I had no understanding of what just happened. I knew I did it, but I didn’t understand why because my rational non BPD side knows right from wrong. As a result I was told this intense shame is part of the diagnosis? We haven’t seen or heard much about her behaviours after other than they were followed with “faking injuries” etc. That’s a part I do find confusing. That and I find it slightly strange that Dr Curry was on the side of the prosecution rather than being an objective witness.
From the Perspective of someone who has borderline personality disorder, GAD and ADHD, in year 5 of recovery treatment (MBT & DBT) and who’s training to be peer support for others with borderline personality disorder who are in crisis and are receiving inpatient treatment🙏🏻
Oh there there listen to the audio all of it not just snippets
She doesnt have shame because she has NPD, with just few BPD traits. She is a narcissist, they don't show or feel shame. She is pure NPD.
yeah that is what I don't understand either, no shame or remorse episodes... how could someone with bpd even keep this up... continue to lie and act....
the only thing I can think of is that the drugs/coke are keeping her ego or delusions up...
@@tiaibrahim80 Narcissists fake contrition as a way to manipulate their victims. It is one of countless ways narcissists assert control.
I hate when people jokingly say they have PTSD (or OCD). It’s a real thing, and you really would want to have it.
Dr Dass... BPD and HPD are, according to my knowledge of the details of this trial, both very accurate. Yes - Dr Curry did testify and identify the disorders for AH for the trial, but I honestly think she must definately get treatment so that she can cope with life overall. I have very close family members with these disorders and although I am not a professional, I can definately identify and relate based on experience. Thank you - love all your videos💜💜💜
Amber Heard doesn’t have BPD(actually it is C-PTSD), she’s a pathological narcissist
Much as I have grown to detest AH over these past few weeks, I agree she needs therapy. I can't imagine the stress, unhappiness and sheer hopelessness a person with such deep seated hatred must feel. I also think she is dangerous and that this public backlash will send her over the edge .
I agree with you about Amber Heard needing treatment and therapy but she has to want to get help. It appears to me that she's still in denial and still looking for ways to get people back on her side. I was never on her side but do agree that she should get help. But we can't force it on her. Her situation is really sad because she just can't seem to stop lying and defaming Johnny Depp. They've been divorced for six years now and many of us are embarrassed for her in her continuous need to try to change the public perception of her. She clearly is making her life more complicated than it needs to be but her ego is so humungous that I doubt she will ever just accept her loss in Depp walking away from her and her defeat in the courtroom.
So grateful to discover you.👏👏👏👏👏
You should have discussed bias of doctors against BPD,it's one of the biggest issues we face with getting help,you showed your own bias when referencing psychopathic traits [like shallow affect] in BPD,which is clearly not part of the DSM criteria its just your own experience with patients. i get it,being a therapist is hard,but it's YOUR job. i'm honestly so tired of hearing therapists complain about how hard it is to work with borderliners. it's one of the few mental illness that gets such bad treatment. you should take time to reflect and understand maybe you're doing more damage then good.
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Very well articulated and informative! Saw your input on Mr black (the disturbing truth channel). I love the take on psychology with your channel, being interested and majored in psychology. And for the record, you hit the nail on the head with amber, and I enjoyed this video. Will be subbing ! 👏
My understanding on PTSD is that the trauma had to have the potential of being life threatening. So with sexual assault or domestic violence or molestation the events weren't necessarily life threatening but they had the potential to be..and they did result in bodily harm. Of course I'm not a psychiatrist. Would love to see you do a video on the "slenderman case" one of the offenders was recently released.
What is the definition of life threatening? If the abuse removes your sense of self, you have in effect been killed at a primal level. Hope that helps.
I suffer from it after a SA. 2013. Taken me a long time and everyone different. But only recently had a night terror and it all comes flooding back. PTSD is something you would not wish on another. It disrupts your life especially socially. Also puts pressure on your family as you can be fine one minute and not the next. Can be terrifying even as you sleep.
@@Makeeverydayyourbestday Gentle hugs Diane
@@EmilyEverglot very kind and thankyou! Everyday, is a step forwards. 💜
@@justsomebloke6784 I think as a child it's life threatening, cannot imagine worse. But also in adult hood as it's a situation a dangerous situation where your life is at risk! In your mind if someone takes things that far , then how far will it go! I ended up nearly beaten to death. I woke up after a stranger followed me home. A inch from death. That's PTSD!
I am diagnosed with BPD but I am more of the quiet type. In the past it has made me more likely to be a victim of abuse or control because I will cling on to really not nice people because of the fear of abandonment. I literally never do explosive rage outwards, far more prone to turning my negative emotions inwards on myself.
Do you think she could also have bipolar disorder.... Or more general mood disorder?
I'm a psych nurse practitioner and I think a lot of adolescents with borderline overlap with severe mood disorders...
Of course they do, also often using drugs doesnt help their mental state.
I feel it's really important you mention that there are quiet Borderlines, or outward acting. There is so much stigma and hatred towards those of us with it, but some of us are quiet Borderlines and you'd never know unless we said or you were a Nurse or Dr. BPD is already a really painful condition, we don't need a Dr saying we're explosive and angry and fighting etc, many of us NEVER fight or become aggressive
Dr Das, as an expert witness, have you had the opposition treat you much like Amber Herd's team treated Dr Curry? As in not show you the report you made or take things out of context. If so, what does it feel like to be a Dr on the stand speaking about someone's mental health with people trying to refute you? Also an interview with you and the Live Abuse Free youtube channel about this case would be awesome.
I agree the cruelty is part of arguing not hurting someone with less power
Borderline and complex ptsd are very similar and knowing amber had a traumatic childhood it could be ptsd
where did you get the info that Amber had a traumatic childhood?
@@kells4152 She herself has said her Dad was very abusive when herself and Whitney were kids.
@@kells4152 her father was physical abusive, a small amount of research would uncover that
@@kells4152 ua-cam.com/video/qOibW5LXt3w/v-deo.html
I was DX’d with PTSD by 2 different shrinks that never communicated with each other, nor shared records.
With regard to the dodginess of diagnosis in a court case like this, Dr Curry works for Johnny Depp and is part of his legal team's presentation. She is making statements about the enemy of her camp, so she hypes up everything bad that she can about Amber Heard. Dodgy is the kindest way to describe such a situation.
I'm pretty sure I have BPD since I've never been diagnosed by a Doctor. I do have C-PTSD, Major depression(I slept my life away for nearly 2 years) , and Anxiety from being raped twice at 14 years old and being bullied ,regected, and my father abandoning me, and had childhood sexual abuse. I can see myself in Amber when I was younger at least 16 years old. I would also start fights for no reason in with my brothers and sisters.I also was severely paranoid ,still am along with uncontrolled delusional thoughts, and uncontrolled intrusive thoughts coming out of nowhere and being angry all the time .I also had other addiction I wasn't able to get to because of how a reject I was ,so I developed a over eating disorder.
I was put on paxil at 18 years old but because I was doing so well my dr took me off from them. As of June I chose to be put back on it and go to therapy.Im now in my 30s and looking back I'm just ready to heal and forgive , and move on. My ex boyfriend was a drug to me which is something I admitted in therapy. It took me 10 years to admit but at the same time im very proud of myself.
I guess my point is that for me I see the whole Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial has been a shedding light for me. We all have demons and it's hard to face them. I always thought it was just a publicity stunt to get attention or money but the more and more this came out with these skeletons.I realized 😳 like holy shit( I'm not alone...)
theres a hardness to her face tht comes wth fixedness +addiction to hard drugs...dont think she cn adjust to othr peopl
Her Nurse testified that Amber had told her that she had Borderline Personality Disorder. It was written in her nursing notes
Gratitude for your channel and insights! I echo the concerns about unfair negative reactions to people managing BPD potentially arising after this trial. It is so true that people with this Dx can have strong empathy, compassion, and sincere remorse for hurting others before seeking therapy. Questions: was anyone bone-chilled by AH's subtle smiles during the humiliating tapes of JD in pain; her cold stare at JD before the fake sad face toward the jury during his testimony; her cold stare at CV flashed after a sad face toward the jury when called out; and shocked (?) furious (?) expression when saying she could not believe JD would fight back, possibly because of her cruelty and fleeting power over him following her Op-ed? May ASPD signs be presenting?
As a sufferer of BPD I fear the repercussions and further stigmatisation of people with the diagnosis. Not everyone is like her example.
There’s an idea about all of these personality disorders: that they are all narcissism.
Hello Dr Das.
I have a diagnosis of emotionally unstable personality disorder. I have been arrested and charged in the past because of my behaviour. My body is a mess with self harm, i was in A&E almost every weekend to have stitches. The past 4/5 years ive been getting better and Ive had tats to cover my scars. I also have a stable job as a store supervisor and im engaged.
I am not a time waster, I am not useless or stupid and I do care what people think.
I still have issues, especially in my relationship, i've often tried to sabotage it but i know i would be lost without him. I have severe anxiety over health and what i'm doing is right or wrong. I have obsessive thoughts and chronic insomnia.
I just want to say BPD is manageable and people can get through it!