they produce such speed because the blanks have about 350-330 joules of energy, in comparison, a regular .22lr has about 150. as for accuracy, you should try skirtless pelletes like eun jin, H&N Rabbit Magnum II or gamo bb's.
Nailgun blanks use a high-speed burning powder. So it's gives a much more energy, pressure and temperature output than standart ammunition of the same type (in this case - .22LR). Also - pellet highly deforms from the instant high pressure applied, and can also damage your barrel. It can damage your gun, by burning rifling edges or deforming a chamber. So it is recommended to use it in a smoothbore barrel, and with a weapon with massibe chamber. Semi-auto rifle is a risky choice. Especially, when you don't want to break it.
I would love to see you do this video with high 22 caliber saboted pellets. Specifically the hyper velocity field pellets made in hungry. I really think those would improve the accuracy. I have a Sears and Roebuck single shot bolt action I will be conducting my own experiments with. However I do not have a chronograph. Thanks for the entertaining and informative video. 🇨🇦🎩
Do the test again, but shoot it into some ballistics jell, (for example), so you can see the damage the power is doing to the pellet, (cause you will never find one in the field, let alone a good one). Something to stop the pellet while deforming it as little as possible. If somebody shoots the gun straight up in the air, and you can catch it from an airplane with a Baseball glove at the top of it's height,---that would be best. You get the idea. :)
Would be nice to see a comparison with .22 WMR. I've clocked some of the shots I've taken with my Henry lever action using CCI V-max poly tip's at 2350 FPS. Extremely accurate.
Super Canadian video, snow and a furry hat. What you should try if you want accuracy from a nail gun blank and a pellet are the H&N pile drivers. They weigh in at 29 grams but have a very high ballistic co-efficient. Just a big word that means they can go fast and maintain whatever ever accuracy the gun gives them. I’d love to see a video.
VERY interesting. I did not think you would get a result. I ended up doing an accuracy test with my pellets. I will post it soon if you are subscribed. I was actually getting some decent groups with some combinations.
what you recon would happen if u emteyed the powder and put black powder in instead or maybe even with. then stuck a 22 cal heavy ball in a c02 revolver? so you have 6-8 blanks in the clip but blanks filled with black powder or just the blank round or both mixed?
I would love to see the results using a bigger grain pellet, For example bisley magnum or the super rare saxby palmer nato zinc alloy pellets which are much bigger in size/lenth but not much in grain 🤔
i got 3100FPS from an 18 inch barrel, had to use solid copper pellets, and clean the barrel every time, there was alot of material left behind from the powder and some copper left behind as well, i'm guessing from friction, i was also using yellow power drivers
Dude! What an awesome way to clear snow off the roof! Did you find the blanks to be extremely dirty in the gun? That would be my guess. Nice video, thanks.
1967Twotone The blanks weren't all that bad. There was added residue in the action but not nearly enough to warrant an extra cleaning. I was more concerned with leading in the barrel since those pellets were going so fast but that didn't seem to be a problem either. Maybe that was because I only shot about a dozen of them total.
I think the accuracy problem comes from the pellet shape being "drag stabilized" by the skirt and the speeds being too fast. I have a .22 air rifle that is setup for slugs. Though the lightest slugs I've been able to find are around 20 grains
Add some potassium perchlorate in the right amount to your tannerite targets. That will make them .22 sensitive. Sincerely a fellow Canadian and chemist.
Use the nailgun blanks.. but take one pellet and melt it in a spoon. And use it to fill the back of another pellet. Then your pellet has 2x the weight. It should fly straighter, have more energy and still be able to take advantage of the diablo shape
I have a small tub of .22, sabot with copper coated bullets for an air rifle. Can you get these in North America. Should work well with a blank behind it.
You make your blind 22LR bullets have the same powder charges (gunpowder) as with 9 mm ammunition, gas (expansion or start)? They do not have any difference? I never found the answer to this question. I think that this question is very interesting and important for some people if it's true
horvis none diferant grain amount so you have a bigger bang from a 0.38 9mm. surely. ps what's a 223 round the this dude totally destroyed the coloured water jug in the first "3rd shot" fire test. thanks and I'd apreciate the feedback buddy, from the uk and this country sucks so please forgive my ignorance.
I wonder if you have tried using more than one .22 air slug using the purple nail gun shell's 😉 or maybe even use the projectile removed from a .22 bullet ? 😃
The pellet should not be placed against the crimped 22. The pellet should be slightly ahead of the 22. Maybe 1/16". The vid I saw explained the logistics behind said spacing. Maybe it doesn't matter?
Would be nice to have an airgun that shoots 2500-3000 fps, cause i only got an old one that goes 1250 fps or 395ms, the old hatsan 125, but its annoying to load it every time since u need to have done some push ups first:) cause damn my son stressed with it so he didnt want to shoot much when he was younger, and bought it for him since i remember how fun i had with my first airgun at a young age.
Put a .22 slug in it, and you will hit your target too. The pellet skirt is no match for that power. My springer mag .22 air gun blows the skirt up like a balloon, and I am sure the powder force rips it apart as soon as it leaves the muzzle. A slug will not do that, and it may shoot comparable to a cartridge in a .22 rifle.
Awh ok ... I can't wait to see what you got next for a video ... I need to get out and shoot my .22 long rifle soon maybe next week i also want to go for a duck and goose hunt with my shotgun oh gee im having withdraws from shooting my guns lol
Chris McEvoy Ya, I hear you... I get the shakes once in a while if I don't get out and at least make some noise... lol!Thanks for watching and I hope you get out soon to do some shooting! :-)
What distance were you shooting? Reason I ask is because the experiments I have seen show very accurate at close range, but the accuracy falls off really fast. Ten yards or twenty yards, good groups. 35 yards or more, difficult to make certain where they were going to land. That's what I've seen with this technique.
@@mmatt - You were definitely getting skirt damage to the pellet then. Not sure what else, but definitely that. Might try again with this change. Muzzle load the pellet backwards. Mark your rod so you get consistent depth then follow with the nail blank. If that doesn't change anything, I'd stop there. Don't try it with the solid pellets like a couple of people mentioned because those weigh considerably more and you are bound to be playing with dangerous chamber pressures at that point.
Try putting the .22 pellet 4-5" into the barrel then shoot it. My prediction is better accuracy and hopefully not to much velocity lost. I would suspect the initial blast of the nail gun blank is damaging the thin base of the pellet when the pellet is seated just ahead of the blank. Moving it further down might reduce the initial pressure on the pellet and hopefully allow it to maintain its shape..
try something really fun wrap a cig paper around the .22 casing and then wax a regular .117 BB and drop it in the paper and the fire it across the crony
A very interesting video, I've only just found it, thank you for posting. One thing that came to mind is that .22 ammo is 5.6mm but pellet are 5.5mm. Eley Wasps in the blue tin are 5.6mm if that is any help.
Believe me, the force of the nail gun cap will blow up the skirt like a balloon, (if it is not ripping it apart). I have a mag spring air gun that shoots the 16gr.pellet at about 875fps, (way slower than this), and it blows the skirt up for plenty of rifling contact and seal.
hey matt, i believe another reason why you wouldn't get accuracy is cos the rifling in your .22lr is designed for .22lr rounds vs air rifle pellets. if you used an air rifle barrel and drilled the breach to 6mm to fit the blank and set that off, accuracy is alot better as the air rifle barrel has the rifling designed for the air rifle pellet, i know cos i've tried it. i believe its called a zip gun.
Nismogtir1 .22 calibre air rifle barrels and .22LR barrels both have 1 in 16 twist rate. It's more likely that the extremely high velocity simply pushed the pellet straight through the rifling instead of allowing the pellet to spin. Firearms that fire bullets at these velocities require the bullets to be copper jacketed so this doesn't happen.
mmatt .22 cal air = 5.5 mm .22LR = 5.58 mm that is a big difference considering a great gunsmith almost works in thousandths of an inch. 22LR bullit wont ever fit in a 22 air rifle barrel. It's why it won't ever work with an air rifle since the shell case is over 5.6 mm. ( unless u start drilling and make a firing pin urself. I wouldn't do that tho it might not be the safest thing to do..... U probably create a small pipe bomb. I know i sound like someones grandfather but it's just really is dangarous!
Robert Hünker The airgun pellets that I used measure 5.67 mm and my .22LR cases and projectiles measure the same at 5.71 mm - that's a difference of only 0.04 mm or 0.0016 inches. But I'd still never attempt to shoot a rimfire cartridge, blank or otherwise, through an airgun. They just aren't designed for that type of pressure.
Try to find the lead-free 22 caliber pellets with a red Plastics behind them. The led pellets are too soft and when the 22 blank goes off it destroys the skirt on the pellet giving you the poor accuracy. Ps one more thing with the soft lead when you try to push something like this down a fast twist Barrel the pellet fails to engage the riflings properly and just strips led off. Same as shooting soft lead projectiles reloaded into a rifle or pistol cartridge you will lead the barrel because the projectile tries to travel straight stripping the led off and making the projectile smaller than the boar
1:53 that was the funniest thing i heard all day
That was *funny and pretty cool!!! thanks for no crappy music!!*
Cool video yeah those nailgun blanks have a kick, always fun to experiment.
Hahahah I am dying at that pronunciation of taufledermaus :D
+Pantharen im not a dumbass for putting a u rather than an o it's a simple typo you fuck nut
jacob kudrowich tayohfluhdermus! Lmao!
A shaved fledermaus feels nice on the tongue.
so this is what he (supposed to want to) said
My mind is still boggling. I barely recognized what he was talking about!
223 made the bottle teleport
I SET OFF SOME TANNERITE WITH A SLING SHOT AND BLEW UP MY NEIGHBORS DOG HOUSE . THEN MR. WILSON CAME OUT GRABBED A SWITCH AND WHIPPED ME GOOD
But Mr. Wilson!
mw10259 lmao that was my cartoon before school
they produce such speed because the blanks have about 350-330 joules of energy, in comparison, a regular .22lr has about 150.
as for accuracy, you should try skirtless pelletes like eun jin, H&N Rabbit Magnum II or gamo bb's.
Muphlon
Pretty sure CCI ammo can do 250J
350 sounds dangerous
.17 hmr rounds is a rimfire round that will set off tannerite at +2500 fps
Yup. First hand experience right here.
Just liked the video as of the ~1 min mark...as soon as I realized what you were going to do with Tannerite! :)
Nice work, Dude! Thanks for trying it. Now I don't have to worry about blowing myself up seeing if this works.
That's why I'm here - to blow myself up so you don't have to. ;-)
Great video! You had me cracking up!
Thanks! I had fun making it! :-)
Coming to you from the future in 2021, I Gorilla glue the pellet to the tip of the .22 blanks and shot it out from a 12ga adapter!
Did it work well ? Having a bigger barrel diamitor doesn't effect the pellet?
Nailgun blanks use a high-speed burning powder. So it's gives a much more energy, pressure and temperature output than standart ammunition of the same type (in this case - .22LR). Also - pellet highly deforms from the instant high pressure applied, and can also damage your barrel.
It can damage your gun, by burning rifling edges or deforming a chamber. So it is recommended to use it in a smoothbore barrel, and with a weapon with massibe chamber. Semi-auto rifle is a risky choice. Especially, when you don't want to break it.
Like I said in the video though, it's not my rifle, it's Curtis's. Lol!
Absolutely Awesome dude...WHAT A BOOM!
Swab the bore after each shot for more accuracy; the Ramset leave s lot of residue.
The twist rate in that gun barrel would have to be tighter to get better accuracy..
You used the yellow blanks I would like to see what the reds would do for velocity. I may have to try it just out of curiosity.
I would love to see you do this video with high 22 caliber saboted pellets. Specifically the hyper velocity field pellets made in hungry. I really think those would improve the accuracy. I have a Sears and Roebuck single shot bolt action I will be conducting my own experiments with. However I do not have a chronograph. Thanks for the entertaining and informative video. 🇨🇦🎩
A Blast to watch. Very entertaining.
Do the test again, but shoot it into some ballistics jell, (for example), so you can see the damage the power is doing to the pellet, (cause you will never find one in the field, let alone a good one). Something to stop the pellet while deforming it as little as possible.
If somebody shoots the gun straight up in the air, and you can catch it from an airplane with a Baseball glove at the top of it's height,---that would be best.
You get the idea. :)
Would be nice to see a comparison with .22 WMR. I've clocked some of the shots I've taken with my Henry lever action using CCI V-max poly tip's at 2350 FPS. Extremely accurate.
This is some of the finest redneckery that Ive witnessed. This is great!
Awesome. Good job.thanks
Super Canadian video, snow and a furry hat. What you should try if you want accuracy from a nail gun blank and a pellet are the H&N pile drivers. They weigh in at 29 grams but have a very high ballistic co-efficient. Just a big word that means they can go fast and maintain whatever ever accuracy the gun gives them. I’d love to see a video.
Great video, interesting and fun.
Well done.
Both 17hmr and 22 magnum work with tannerite for me, 22 lr sometimes works but very inconsistently.
This video made me laugh. Cheers!
The crossman red tail zink pellets are safer than lead and more accurate. Loved your video.
pretty cool!
great video man!! poor accuracy tho lol. how many yards was the 22 pelits shot at
That was awesome ..
thanks
2:00 lol! loved it
BRAVOOOOO! THANKS!
otimo
for Science! haha, cool idea / video man! 💥👈💥👈
"tae-o-fley-dermus"
I was just coming down to comment the same thing. For anyone who doesnt know, it's pronounced "Towf-layed-er-mouse"
I'm glad you didn't damage Todd's gun 😆
you rock
i saw the title and immediately said yes
cool video
that's the Marlin 795 with a micro groove barrel its very accurate just like a Ruger 10/22
Ehhhh…
VERY interesting. I did not think you would get a result. I ended up doing an accuracy test with my pellets. I will post it soon if you are subscribed. I was actually getting some decent groups with some combinations.
RyeOnHam Nice. I'd be interested to see what kind of groups could be achieved.
Coming soon. Have to edit... and that means time that I don't have.
what you recon would happen if u emteyed the powder and put black powder in instead or maybe even with. then stuck a 22 cal heavy ball in a c02 revolver? so you have 6-8 blanks in the clip but blanks filled with black powder or just the blank round or both mixed?
What all these guys don’t understand is HEAD-SPACING; it makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. .
I would love to see the results using a bigger grain pellet,
For example bisley magnum or the super rare saxby palmer nato zinc alloy pellets which are much bigger in size/lenth but not much in grain 🤔
how many fps does the pellet travel with the nail gun blank?
("Don't use these in your firearm" so I use it in someone elses) LEL
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i got 3100FPS from an 18 inch barrel, had to use solid copper pellets, and clean the barrel every time, there was alot of material left behind from the powder and some copper left behind as well, i'm guessing from friction, i was also using yellow power drivers
Try a sabot round
THANKS FOR THE TEST........NOW WE KNOW!!!
And knowing is half the battle
Cool vid.
"Tayo-fla-dermus" 🤣
Dude! What an awesome way to clear snow off the roof!
Did you find the blanks to be extremely dirty in the gun? That would be my guess.
Nice video, thanks.
1967Twotone The blanks weren't all that bad. There was added residue in the action but not nearly enough to warrant an extra cleaning. I was more concerned with leading in the barrel since those pellets were going so fast but that didn't seem to be a problem either. Maybe that was because I only shot about a dozen of them total.
When I was a kid they'd sell 177 caliber bolts and darts. Wonder if they make em in 22 cal. And if so if they'd blow the tannerite as well
I think the accuracy problem comes from the pellet shape being "drag stabilized" by the skirt and the speeds being too fast. I have a .22 air rifle that is setup for slugs. Though the lightest slugs I've been able to find are around 20 grains
This would be nice to try with some heavy pellets, I know they got some that close to the weight of a 22 call bullet
Fun facts:
A Brazilian youtuber have been shooting pellets with nail gun blanks from an AIR RIFLE years before taofledermaus.
Pellets are fine. Don’t use anything heavier.
I was thinking a sabot round would work best for that
Very fun, but it would be safer without using a semi auto rifle. Did you try a 22 blank then a grain of tannerite and finally a pellet as a munition?
Add some potassium perchlorate in the right amount to your tannerite targets. That will make them .22 sensitive. Sincerely a fellow Canadian and chemist.
Use the nailgun blanks.. but take one pellet and melt it in a spoon. And use it to fill the back of another pellet. Then your pellet has 2x the weight. It should fly straighter, have more energy and still be able to take advantage of the diablo shape
If you need to protect a large area, you could duct tape medium size shot to 3 sides of the Tannerite. One shot, take out multiple wild hogs.
I think Tannerite can be sensitized to .22 by adding a small amount to sulfer to the mix. You can google it and find out more. Do at your own risk.
Do these blanks have primer? Is their power a fraction of the real cartridge?
I have a small tub of .22, sabot with copper coated bullets for an air rifle. Can you get these in North America. Should work well with a blank behind it.
Exactly what I was thinking! 👍
Is it fast to change?
are Nail Gun Blanks more powerfull than self-defense blank gun cartridge?
Did you used purple one instead of yellow in same test?
You make your blind 22LR bullets have the same powder charges (gunpowder) as with 9 mm ammunition, gas (expansion or start)? They do not have any difference?
I never found the answer to this question. I think that this question is very interesting and important for some people if it's true
horvis none diferant grain amount so you have a bigger bang from a 0.38 9mm. surely. ps what's a 223 round the this dude totally destroyed the coloured water jug in the first "3rd shot" fire test. thanks and I'd apreciate the feedback buddy, from the uk and this country sucks so please forgive my ignorance.
I wonder if you have tried using more than one .22 air slug using the purple nail gun shell's 😉 or maybe even use the projectile removed from a .22 bullet ? 😃
The pellet should not be placed against the crimped 22. The pellet should be slightly ahead of the 22. Maybe 1/16". The vid I saw explained the logistics behind said spacing. Maybe it doesn't matter?
Maybe something to try if Curtis lends me his rifle again... ;-)
I'd like to see someone attach the pellets or BBs to the blanks using candle wax or such so that you can load them straight in as one piece
Heavier and harder pellets.
Would be nice to have an airgun that shoots 2500-3000 fps, cause i only got an old one that goes 1250 fps or 395ms, the old hatsan 125, but its annoying to load it every time since u need to have done some push ups first:) cause damn my son stressed with it so he didnt want to shoot much when he was younger, and bought it for him since i remember how fun i had with my first airgun at a young age.
u can also use basic .22blanks an put a .22 pellet on top of it, its works just fine
Put a .22 slug in it, and you will hit your target too. The pellet skirt is no match for that power. My springer mag .22 air gun blows the skirt up like a balloon, and I am sure the powder force rips it apart as soon as it leaves the muzzle. A slug will not do that, and it may shoot comparable to a cartridge in a .22 rifle.
ok good gun
i wonder if it could fire a dart or tungsten rod with a .22 blank
Can you do the same thing in a .22 air rifle?
great video as usual ... I'm still trying to figure out how come you reuploaded this video , did you have to edit the video?
The audio was messed up. That's all.
Awh ok ... I can't wait to see what you got next for a video ... I need to get out and shoot my .22 long rifle soon maybe next week i also want to go for a duck and goose hunt with my shotgun oh gee im having withdraws from shooting my guns lol
Chris McEvoy Ya, I hear you... I get the shakes once in a while if I don't get out and at least make some noise... lol!Thanks for watching and I hope you get out soon to do some shooting! :-)
What distance were you shooting? Reason I ask is because the experiments I have seen show very accurate at close range, but the accuracy falls off really fast. Ten yards or twenty yards, good groups. 35 yards or more, difficult to make certain where they were going to land. That's what I've seen with this technique.
I couldn't have been more than 20 or 30 feet from the target. I did not get good accuracy at even this close range.
@@mmatt - You were definitely getting skirt damage to the pellet then. Not sure what else, but definitely that.
Might try again with this change. Muzzle load the pellet backwards. Mark your rod so you get consistent depth then follow with the nail blank. If that doesn't change anything, I'd stop there. Don't try it with the solid pellets like a couple of people mentioned because those weigh considerably more and you are bound to be playing with dangerous chamber pressures at that point.
Try putting the .22 pellet 4-5" into the barrel then shoot it. My prediction is better accuracy and hopefully not to much velocity lost. I would suspect the initial blast of the nail gun blank is damaging the thin base of the pellet when the pellet is seated just ahead of the blank. Moving it further down might reduce the initial pressure on the pellet and hopefully allow it to maintain its shape..
that made my day LOL
hele coole video
Try the pellets meant for rifled air rifles. That might get you better accuracy
try something really fun wrap a cig paper around the .22 casing and then wax a regular .117 BB and drop it in the paper and the fire it across the crony
Good for deringer
A very interesting video, I've only just found it, thank you for posting. One thing that came to mind is that .22 ammo is 5.6mm but pellet are 5.5mm. Eley Wasps in the blue tin are 5.6mm if that is any help.
Believe me, the force of the nail gun cap will blow up the skirt like a balloon, (if it is not ripping it apart). I have a mag spring air gun that shoots the 16gr.pellet at about 875fps, (way slower than this), and it blows the skirt up for plenty of rifling contact and seal.
@@EarthSurferUSA Cheers for that, I hadn't given that a thought, so 0.1mm is neither here nor there. All the best to you for a happy new year!
I like the gun. Why did I download it
Your pellets need to be at least an inch further up the bore otherwise you cannot expect accuracy. These are extremely accurate if you do it right.
hey matt, i believe another reason why you wouldn't get accuracy is cos the rifling in your .22lr is designed for .22lr rounds vs air rifle pellets. if you used an air rifle barrel and drilled the breach to 6mm to fit the blank and set that off, accuracy is alot better as the air rifle barrel has the rifling designed for the air rifle pellet, i know cos i've tried it. i believe its called a zip gun.
Nismogtir1 .22 calibre air rifle barrels and .22LR barrels both have 1 in 16 twist rate. It's more likely that the extremely high velocity simply pushed the pellet straight through the rifling instead of allowing the pellet to spin. Firearms that fire bullets at these velocities require the bullets to be copper jacketed so this doesn't happen.
mmatt .22 cal air = 5.5 mm .22LR = 5.58 mm that is a big difference considering a great gunsmith almost works in thousandths of an inch. 22LR bullit wont ever fit in a 22 air rifle barrel. It's why it won't ever work with an air rifle since the shell case is over 5.6 mm. ( unless u start drilling and make a firing pin urself. I wouldn't do that tho it might not be the safest thing to do..... U probably create a small pipe bomb. I know i sound like someones grandfather but it's just really is dangarous!
Robert Hünker The airgun pellets that I used measure 5.67 mm and my .22LR cases and projectiles measure the same at 5.71 mm - that's a difference of only 0.04 mm or 0.0016 inches. But I'd still never attempt to shoot a rimfire cartridge, blank or otherwise, through an airgun. They just aren't designed for that type of pressure.
more so that the pellets aren’t designed to fly at that velocity
Pellets are most accurate at 1 or 2 hundred feet per second under the sound barrier
Tactical semi-automatic musket.
I was going to make a revolver ghost pistol to try this in just to make the point.
I have that exact gun
Is it good??
Why it isn't as loud when fired from a nail gun?
Should have tried a heavier pellet in the low 20's grain. My collection has them from 11 to 31 grains
Why not use in fire arm??
Try to find the lead-free 22 caliber pellets with a red Plastics behind them.
The led pellets are too soft and when the 22 blank goes off it destroys the skirt on the pellet giving you the poor accuracy.
Ps one more thing with the soft lead when you try to push something like this down a fast twist Barrel the pellet fails to engage the riflings properly and just strips led off.
Same as shooting soft lead projectiles reloaded into a rifle or pistol cartridge you will lead the barrel because the projectile tries to travel straight stripping the led off and making the projectile smaller than the boar
lol, I thought the 795 had a magazine safety, how did you fire it without the magazine inserted?
+Miguel Melgoza I disabled it. I think magazine safeties are silly.
+mmatt Ahh, didn't know you could do that. Thx! Yeah, couldn't agree more.
I am going to try this vs wood target.
U did?
anyone try a drop of Super-Glue to bond the pellet to the charge?
Good question, I'm curious too
I was enough with this nail gun blank stuff. Then the tannerite...okay fine that was worth it