Shooting 22 Pellets with Nail Gun Blanks
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It's a wonder I'm still alive, I can remember smashing those blanks on the garage floor at five years old with a claw hammer
Yes sir. I remember finding the loads as a kid. We men are lucky to be alive after all the crazy stuff we did as youngsters.
larry Lathrop hahaha that so true.. amazingly i still have all my fingers an thumbs
Jay ward. Still got a bit of one in my left hand from 40 years ago
Jay Ward. I thought it was just us used to do that. We used to stuff them into fireworks and throw them at each other. We also stole rimfire 22 and dropped shores on them. How am I alive 😀
devine intervention perhaps
holy crap you are fast! Dang, I was expecting higher velocities too! I added this video to the end cards. thanks for doing this!
Dang, that was fast :)
No problem! You've got to strike while the iron is hot. I'm after your viewers! lol
TAOFLEDERMAUS, both you And Johnny have waay too much time on your hands and we all love you for that.
Johnny's Reloading Bench would you ever consider doing some speed demons like 17 Remington or .22-250
I did this test about couple years ago when I first saw original video with 22 lead crossman pellets. I used revolver and fed from the breach (a lot faster) it worked but was super dirty and I pretty sure I got leading but these zinc pellets are interesting to try. Would be cool to cast own zinc bullets and try.
I have done this with a .22 revolver. It worked great.
I was thinking about trying this with my Ruger Single-Six
Those first three shots are impressive in both velocity and accuracy
Well done and Thank You. I'm Danny, one of the shooters on Jeff's channel. You just gained another subscriber. Looking forward to viewing all of your videos.
Glad to have you, brother!
When I was too young to buy real ammo I used to buy starter pistol blanks which were not as harsh to use as nail gun blanks and shoot Daisy .22 diablo pellets out of a .S&W 22 revolver. I just poked the pellets in the cylinders a little ahead of the blanks and packed some muzzle loading bore butter in the end of the cylinders which seemed to make them more accurate and kept the barrel from fouling. Worked great. I popped a lot rabbits and barn pigeons with it. I still have the revolver and shoot regular ammo in it now and has no abnormal wear on it from my abuse of it as a kid.
Did NOT expect those things to be moving that fast! Really cool experiment.
Impressive velocities, good follow up to his video.
Used to do this a lot in an old Remington nr 4 rolling block. Very easy to load from the breech, extremely accurate as a number of rats could testify were they still alive.. great short range load.
Really enjoyed this video. I would never have thought to even try this. Thanks
Great episode Johnny!
Ive got a youth rossi .22 break action. Super excited to try this out.
Same here! Did you try it yet?
Head spacing is everything.
Seems the lower power had alot more accuracy.. this is a pretty cool study here.. and i appreciate it coming from a reloader that knows all the little nuances thst come with firearm tech, ballistics, flight ect ..cool
Never has a title been so intriguing to me while also being flatly descriptive
that was fun! man them things were hauling! ! cool stuff...
so many possibilities for fun experiments...
Looked like a fun experiment.
Excellent Demo!
Thank You!
I loaded my in #4, .22 cal. lead, fired from a single shot Stevens Model 15-A and 2414 was my highest, but all were falling in the high 2300s...I did NOT use the ones with plastic; and I super glued the pellet to the .22 blank...great video, thanks
Thanks for doing the testing. This is very helpful. Looks like #3 is the best. I noticed Taufledermaus used a 4" 12ga adapter. I presume my .22lr revolver with 4" barrel would get about the same results.
Your shows are the best
I have an old bolt action .after seeing this I am curious about breech loading the pellet similar to a break action pellet rifle then using the bolt to push the blank round against the pellet and seat both in the correct spot in the chamber once the bolt is in the home position. My only concern would mostly be the head space if any between blank cartridge and projectile.seems better than starting at the muzzle and like was mentioned distorting the projectile and worse leaving room between the projectile and charge. I really enjoyed this video ,in a last ditch effort that combination could definitely get you out of a tight spot in an out of conventional ammo situation. Impressed by the grouping was kinda surprised how fairly consistent they were even at 50yds. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man great video
Johnny,you have to admit this sound's crazy my man ,however ....I am really impressed with how well they were grouping! they work...yeeehaw!!!...
Winchester 36gr HP .22lr- 130.9 Foot pounds
#4 Blank 16.7gr pellet- 176.4 Foot pounds
Excellent review thanks very much. I have wondered for some time if nail gun blanks could be used in this way.
As children we used to find these on building sites and take them home and put them in a vise and hit them with a hammer.
Just wondered how .22 lead balls would perform.
Man, great tests! Would you like to test again with 22 airgun slugs? There are many of them hit the market for high power PCP air rifles and seems like they can handle higher velocities very well. :)
Loading and shooting looks just like my black powder cap and ball rifles (a lot less messy, however). I'll have to try this with an older target rifle that has target peeps just for the fun of it. Thanks for sharing
My jaw dropped when I saw the size of the hand relative to the orange target! Respectable groups!
Wow, amazing stuff that could work in a pinch if there was ever total shortage of 22LR ammo.
Awesome video, thx Johnny.
plot twist there is now.
Way cool! I might try this with my 10/22.
A year later. Whats the verdict?
Good to know. Pretty neat.
I've been wondering if the same could be done with a revolver.
Pic of the fired casings?
Awesome video!
I am glad you have shown us the difference in power these blanks have. What is the weight of those pellets ?
im thinking the extra power of the 4 loads are pushing back on the action spring and opening the bolt early.
PERFECT IDEA WITH A BOLT ACTION!!
Or break action
Now that looks fun
Since your experiment with the crossman pellets solid base and boatail airgun slugs have become available are you up for another go around?
The Butler Creek magazine can work with 1 nail gun round and 22 short but just 1 at a time
Did this years ago and broke an extractor on my Remington fieldmaster pump 22, after fixing it I’ve had problems ever since. Also caught that broken extractor to the face
I find it difficult to believe that you actually caught a broken extractor to the face when you 9/10 sit to the opposit side of the ejection port
@@glzarmy What if he's a lefty?
@@alexcarter8807 i accounted for that, 1/10 ppl are lefties, prob even less in the shooting community
@@glzarmy my whole family is left handed and we all shoot guns except my mom
What a bunch of man boys you are!! LOL
Other than the chrony, I did all this stuff in 1973 when I was 12 years old. Thank God there was no UA-cam back then I would have surely won a Darwin award. This is super cool though, getting to see you guys using high speed cameras and chronographs and ballistic gel and stuff...
Thanks for sharing, and the entertainment!!
incredible test, my friend
Awesome thanks great work Sir 👍
I would think the brown colored lowest power load with 14.4 gr. Crosman Copper Magnum Dome might be a good place to start off, having a lighter bullet with a wasp waist skirt would provide stability and proper engagement of the rifling and also might help with your long range key-holing effect on those 16.7gr. Powershot Red Flight Ultra Heavy Penetrators. IMHO
Wonder if I could use those blanks to practice quick draw in my pistol. Just the blanks.
Johnny I don't know how in the hell I miss this video. I swear I've seen everything you put out. But to UA-cam's credit they did suggest it even though it's 3 years late
Don't let Diane Feinstein see this !
make her fire it
I can't wait to try this with my breech load and bolt action riffles. Seems like it would load easier
Charles Echols it does.... tack glue the pellets before hand and it’s like loading .22lr
Wish I still had my drop block ,octagon barrel Stevens single shot to try it out muzzle loading sabot round would not be a big deal at all
Those things are moving holy crap
Going on a week without any JRB videos, getting withdrawals!!
150 fpe is plenty of power for hunting. I wonder how many pine boards those zinc tips would make it thro
Zinc isn't as heavy as lead so it's probably something else with maybe a zinc coating
Do we have anyway to model the pressures and identify which barrels are safest to use. Why not be using a single shot break action? Super thick chamber walls on my Rossi Matched Pair.
That was interesting. I think I'm going to Lowe's or home Depot to buy me some 22 blanks.
Was he adding them individually, or in a magazine? Because it was one shot after another.
Might have to try with my Winchester Scout, break down.
I suspect a shorter barrel will provide higher velocities. Ramset cartridges are designed to move a heavy metal rod about an inch. That tells me they have extremely fast burning powder, because there's no need to keep accelerating that rod past 1 inch. This would explain why the #4's were barely faster than the #3's. The projectile had most likely stopped accelerating while still in the barrel, and the friction on the bore was slowing it down. I suspect a pistol with about a 6 inch barrel will provide the highest velocities.
Would your velocities change with a bolt gun?
Would be interesting to see a test out of a Thompson Contender, 14 in. barrel.
Good to know if 22's ever dry up again wonder how these would work out of a revolver
I don't care to find out. Personally. If he wants to give her a go, I'll check that out
Things have dried up sir
I have been a sub for years and how is it that this is the 1st time Iv seen this?
damn johnny you and elvis aren't a good influence on me when i had a few beers in me lol from ELVIS shooting hot melt glue though his pistol with primers now you with blanks in the 22 lol love the videos , keep them coming
Could you please try these with some bisley magnums
I have a 22 brake open I did this back in the day when we ran out of 22 ammo
I found some very very old short ones in my papaw's shed with the super x
are cartridge for nail gun blanks more powerfull than cartridge for sel-defense blank gun ?
Great video 👍
Higher pressure out of a bolt action?
Looks like #2 already do the job? Firing #4 obviously the gun bang with a higher pitch noise, i gurss, just a guess, the plastic sabor already worn out before it leaves the barrel, #2 already good enough to pop the coyote or fox that randomly appear to attack the chicken cobe. afterall, there is the motive question, is this setup cheaper than a box of 22LR? Or more available?
Hit this video at random and instantly thought that sounds like JRB. Yep. It was. Please do some vids on the mini14 if it fits your schedule. I am shooting Bob's and most of your powder experiences for 223. Thanks for being around.
Dose the red ones fit in a bb pistol ?
Good video mabie some difference with the blanks one of the channels the guy was getting around the 2800 fps Mark with the yellow rammset blanks he was using lead pellets and they were all over the place and the skirts of the pellets kept blowing off need to get me some of that pellets
Should get a break action .22 for pellet pushing!
We used this trick with .22 shotguns (bolt action) garden guns in the UK just put a pellet on the end and it killed a lot of rabbits at longer range.
FYI blanks launch cleaning rods out of a M16 nicely.
Excellent work, mate! A very interesting video.....and i agree - i am impressed with the 50yd accuracy too. I think i'd probably stick with the #2's for best accuracy....but even at 1500 to 1600 fps, that's a bloody fast .22! Thanks for the video.
Good vid!
Is this a pellet gun? Was thinking about trying this with a pellet gun but there’s no foreign pin so I’d have to make one
I have .27 Cal charges. Would I be able to use them in my 22lr mags?
I like the idea a lot and have seen this with revolvers they get crazy velocity just like this video but a 16” barrel 10/22 seems not ideal I would like to see a older Higgins or coast to coast bold action rifle or break barrel single shot with a longer 20”-24” barrel I bet you would get even more velocity and it would be easier to reload than a percussion musket along with Different ammo a hollow point pellet would explode on a target at 2,000 plus fps! Also heavier ammo 16 grains heavy for a pellet gun but is crazy light weight for a .22 rifle But this is a great idea if you don’t have any ammo and need to hunt small game.
Thanks again
Vic
There is at least one company I know of that makes a die and shell holder for crimping regular .22lr brass into blanks. CH? or something like that. I can't remember 🤔☹️. Also I have no loading data but I do know that simply removing the projectile and crimping the shell using the existing powder in it didn't make for very good blanks - lots of unburned powder and not very loud. I think they needed a different powder in the absence of the pressure the projectile would have created.
What can u use if you don’t have a .22 gun?
The real question is can you use a 22 cal LR in uou ramset? 🤔
i may try this with my 22lr bolt gun. probably easier to load.
A bolt gun would definitely be much easier.
Try the h&r 27.9 grain solid no skirt pellet, pile driver
No scope, ur eye sight seems good.
Better velocity than standard 22lr cartridges, but cost is higher . Still fun. Shtf hack. Will keep you fed.
Yeah, at 15 cents each it's not gonna save you any money.
maybe cut cost by making a mold and molding some sold lead pellets to use
Still minute of man at 50yds. Could ruin somebody's day. Very interesting video. Thanks!
You should do this out of a pistol like a 22 ruger wrangler
Could it be that the plastic base disintegrated inside the barrel already and thereby caused the poor accuracy ?
The faster the shot the wider the group. That may be due to the skirt of the pallet deforming. I would like to see you do this test with 22 solid air gun pellets.. I believe your velocity would increase and so with your accuracy. There would be no pellet skirt to deform.
Barrel obstruction in front of a blank dangerous? Isn't that how the nail gun they go in work?
Brazil had an air rifle that was a bolt action rifle that had a chamber for the pellet and a rear chamber for a .22 blank.. cant remember the name . But the problem was always finding a pellet that would handle supersonic flight
You don't retrieve pellets bozo
The next think you can do which I have done is load the 22 pellet from the breech and push slighly into the grooves with a Q-tip or similar sized push rod. Then but one half of a 22cal empty shell of gunpowder into the chanber behind the just loaded pellet and with the barrel facing straight down so the powder does not fall out then load the power load. I tried several pellets and the pressure blew threw the pellet head
and left the pellet in the barrel. SO what I had to do was fill all the pellets with glue using toothpicks
to poke the air bubble out so the glue would go into the head of the pellet and fill the pellet up.
Using this technique I was getting 3200 feet per second on my chrono. When I added even more powder,
it blew the rim off of the 22 brass cartridge power load case. I assume that is the limit -(smile) BTW, I was using a bolt action gun and that is the ONLY type action I would recommend. Oh yeh, when the rim blew off it broke the extractor that clamps onto the rim on the front of the bolt. This was an old Marlin rifle and it was TOUGH !
What sights are those?
I don't think those pellets were designed for that high of velocity but the results are impressive.
I get for better accuracy out of the normal Crossman pellets, those you're using I have never got accuracy out of those with anything, also you want the pellet an inch up into the rifling you can push it up in there with a WD-40 spray nozzle or the likes.
What happened to #3 at 50 yards?