I've got to hand it to Porsche they've really started to level up the look of their cars I used to just think of Porsches as middle aged men's cars but they've started to make them look so appealing 👀
Great review as always. My love for anything electric or hybrid is the same level as yours….. that car is absolutely bonkers but for the money or less there are so many alternatives….dare I mention depreciation too 🙈
The brief for this car was clearly to make a car do 0-60 quicker than the time it takes to say the name. Great success, although to be fair, they could have given that name to a Trabant and not been far off.
i see what you're saying about it being a strange compromise between a 4S hybrid and a Turbo S. But i guess this is for the Rich people that want to have their cake and eat it too in regards to emissions.
So this is, has such as an Audi.. I have an Audi A7 50TDI and in the last 20 months has been the worse car ever. This group has lost its way, Too many fingers in too many pies! This Audi/ Audi group are shocking. Bad service is number one, bad experience, and so bad I personally will never ever, get another VAG group car. I had two Porsche, a 997 and 991, and the service is so bad… I’m away from this product.
What a car Joe! I am quite fond of the Panamera. Seems like an underdog in the Porsche lineup. Thank you for the continuous great content Joe! Glad to see you better 👍🏻 🔥
Panameras are the most expensive Porsche to maintain. Ask a Porsche service advisor. Terrible cars. They're beautiful but they are shit. Take my word for it............ 😡
@@drewfoster1493 Can't really comment, but I appreciate the advice. We've owned 3 Cayenne's and they've been rather flawless. Took good care of them, and the results were great. From my perspective, my Porsche experience has been very good.. But I will take your word on the Panamera! :)
Weight difference factors in heavy, which is perspicuous for over 200kgs less. The launch in the e-Hybrid is as quick as the regular Turbo S, but for everything after 60 mph the lighter one has the advantage. The real difference though comes in the corners, with the Turbo S feeling more agile (less understeery) and is faster through the bends.
Are you using the same bit of Road Harry uses in Harry’s Garage? Can’t decide which is better, Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid or the Taycan Turbo S. Taycan has the upper hand in the looks department.
My dad has just gotten a new panamera, he was going to get the turbo s e hybrid but at the last moment opted for the 2.9 v6 e hybrid because he’s boring. After winding him up about his decision he decided to lavish it with just shy of £45,000 worth of options. It’s by far and away the best daily I’ve ever driven and been in, we share cars and have had a new e63s wagon and an rsq8 (all short term lease excluding the Porsche) this is just light years ahead in terms of being an overall package.
Love the sound, but the high maintenance costs and the hybrid excessive complexity, is really nudging me towards a 1.9 seconds 0 -60 MPH of the pure electric Tesla S Plaid. With practically zero maintenance costs, constant free upgrading, and an impeccable crash test at the very top of the category. I wander what my brain will do with a 50% better acceleration ( F1 stuff do you know) I hope I will not pass out. But there again it has a magnificent last millisecond reaction software that would save my life in an emergency, naturally hoping that some angel will keep a keen eye on the whole matter just in case..But that sound really gets you. But I guess I will need to get used to the venomous hiss of an F15 jet fighter, minus the roar. After all I love some real classic music far more enjoyable in a smooth quite far more civilized EV .
Great video, Joe. Thank you, sir...🎩 The Panamera has certainly become a handsome brute. I wonder if they'll do a Cross Tourismo, seeing as they've done a Sport Tourismo in the Taycan...🤔
Gonna get stick but I just think the car is ugly. It's trying to be two different cars at the same time. Every manufacturer has an odd model that doesn't work. This is Porsche's. Compare this to the better Taycan Cross Turismo and you can tell they've improved upon it
Absolutely beast, decent review Joe. I'm considering buying one of those, particularly Turbo E-Hybrid Sport Turismo (not the S). Taycan is a good car, but it's meant to be a D segment car, whereas this is an E segment car. Well, that designation might not be on point though, I believe the interior quality is even better than an S class and a 7 series. My only question is, does PDK bother you in daily driving compared to a torque converter? Last time I tried the car, I felt the double-clutch gearbox is too performance-oriented for daily driving. That one was a Panamera 4 though, but it would be still good to know your thoughts. Well done, keep up the good work!
Joe, I've always loved your videos and love, love, love your verbal delivery of what you experience, but you still managed to knock me off my chair when you said you could feel your brain moving forward when you hit the brakes, and move back when you hit the accelerator. You are utterly hilarious, Mate! Thanks for making me fall in love with the Panamera Sport Turismo, although I don't see myself spending quite that kind of money on a car right now. LOL!
Funny to hear about the rarity of the Panamera in the UK. In The Netherlands the hybride version of the Panamera is quite a successful seller for Porsche!
I love watching the videos, where you’re standing next to a car; talking about it, because I’ve watched your feet, in every one of these videos, and I swear, your shoes are glued to the pavement. They never move. ✌️
At last a reviewer talking about the down side of a hybrid when the battery is flat and your dragging that weight around while paying more for the car on day one.
Never ever change a thing about those fly-by shots!🔥
Cheers man 👊
Great car, great review buddy enjoyed it. Love this car but you are 100% on it, the Turbo S is the one to buy (I'm dreaming :) )
Loving the sound this car makes, like a spitfire. Great video as always, what’s coming next
No, it sounds like a Messerschmitt. ;)
I've got to hand it to Porsche they've really started to level up the look of their cars I used to just think of Porsches as middle aged men's cars but they've started to make them look so appealing 👀
Enjoyed your review 😊 so much so I’m going to go and buy one 👍🏼⭐️ thanks Joe👍🏼⭐️
Great review as always. My love for anything electric or hybrid is the same level as yours….. that car is absolutely bonkers but for the money or less there are so many alternatives….dare I mention depreciation too 🙈
Great car. Great video especially the launch at the end and the fiat 500 😂
You can always tell a serious car by the size of the brakes.
My Dad has both a panamera turbo s and a Taycan turbo s (long story, he works very hard) and the discs are bigger than the tyres on my car lol
Great video, I drive the 2.9 Tourismo Hybrid its awesome , Thanks.
Another great video, and great content! keep them coming.
Very helpful review 👍🏻
The brief for this car was clearly to make a car do 0-60 quicker than the time it takes to say the name. Great success, although to be fair, they could have given that name to a Trabant and not been far off.
Porsche🔥
I want and old Panamera 4S with an Diesel V8 😎
Lovely ENGINE sound
Those gear changes are very similar to bmw f10 m5 from the outside
Why does he stand talking with his hands up like he's holding a steering wheel? 😂
Subscribed Joe.
Seem to recognise some of Harry Metcalfe’s favourite roads here?
Very nice car
great car😊
i see what you're saying about it being a strange compromise between a 4S hybrid and a Turbo S. But i guess this is for the Rich people that want to have their cake and eat it too in regards to emissions.
yes. I like cake. I also got the full tax credit for being a hybrid!
There is a non battery turbo S
-250kg and 630bhp
Did you watch the video?
@@JoeAchilles1
Watched half too many ads 😜
So this is, has such as an Audi..
I have an Audi A7 50TDI and in the last 20 months has been the worse car ever.
This group has lost its way,
Too many fingers in too many pies!
This Audi/ Audi group are shocking.
Bad service is number one, bad experience, and so bad I personally will never ever, get another VAG group car.
I had two Porsche, a 997 and 991, and the service is so bad… I’m away from this product.
What a car Joe! I am quite fond of the Panamera. Seems like an underdog in the Porsche lineup. Thank you for the continuous great content Joe! Glad to see you better 👍🏻 🔥
Panameras are the most expensive Porsche to maintain. Ask a Porsche service advisor. Terrible cars. They're beautiful but they are shit. Take my word for it............ 😡
@@drewfoster1493 Can't really comment, but I appreciate the advice. We've owned 3 Cayenne's and they've been rather flawless. Took good care of them, and the results were great. From my perspective, my Porsche experience has been very good.. But I will take your word on the Panamera! :)
I want one, or the turbo s version, try getting one next, I’ll be interested to see how the 300kg weight loss makes a difference. Great video 👍
@@th3b0untyhunter yer I think I’d have the turbo s if i had any money
Didn’t like the Turbo S e-hybrid, felt very heavy even in a straight line it didn’t pull as hard as expected.
Weight difference factors in heavy, which is perspicuous for over 200kgs less. The launch in the e-Hybrid is as quick as the regular Turbo S, but for everything after 60 mph the lighter one has the advantage. The real difference though comes in the corners, with the Turbo S feeling more agile (less understeery) and is faster through the bends.
Fabulous. Sexier than an RS6.
Yeah it's certainly more special
Great car and great review Joe, glad to see Porsche given you more of their cars to review. Well done mate, keep up the good work 👏 👍
Those 18 way seats are hands down the most comfortable seats I’ve had in a car - 100% worth!
Great review Joe. Stunning car but I would just go with the Turbo S without all the weight of the hybrid system.
Different car this is a family estate equivalent to getting ab rs6
Are you using the same bit of Road Harry uses in Harry’s Garage? Can’t decide which is better, Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid or the Taycan Turbo S. Taycan has the upper hand in the looks department.
I was wondering the same thing
Nice machine, but at that money, I'd sooner waft around in a V8 Continental GT.....
How much hp and torque? Didn’t quite catch it
Great video. Porsche really does make the most refined sports cars in the world. Keep the fab content coming, Joe 👍🏾
My dad has just gotten a new panamera, he was going to get the turbo s e hybrid but at the last moment opted for the 2.9 v6 e hybrid because he’s boring. After winding him up about his decision he decided to lavish it with just shy of £45,000 worth of options. It’s by far and away the best daily I’ve ever driven and been in, we share cars and have had a new e63s wagon and an rsq8 (all short term lease excluding the Porsche) this is just light years ahead in terms of being an overall package.
Used to absolutely love these, dream car. But they look dated somehow compared to the Taycan!
Love the sound, but the high maintenance costs and the hybrid excessive complexity, is really nudging me towards a 1.9 seconds 0 -60 MPH of the pure electric Tesla S Plaid. With practically zero maintenance costs, constant free upgrading, and an impeccable crash test at the very top of the category. I wander what my brain will do with a 50% better acceleration ( F1 stuff do you know) I hope I will not pass out. But there again it has a magnificent last millisecond reaction software that would save my life in an emergency, naturally hoping that some angel will keep a keen eye on the whole matter just in case..But that sound really gets you. But I guess I will need to get used to the venomous hiss of an F15 jet fighter, minus the roar. After all I love some real classic music far more enjoyable in a smooth quite far more civilized EV .
Sounds like you're a Tesla kind of guy, enjoy!
upgrade the brakes in the Tesla
I'm still haunted by the 1st gen...was pretty ugly. 😕 this one is good one though. Respect to the man who buys it. 👏👏
I love this car. I would (if I could ever afford it) leave off the E-Hybrid option. I don't really see much gain, except in weight. Great review.
the hybrid is much faster
Great video, Joe. Thank you, sir...🎩 The Panamera has certainly become a handsome brute. I wonder if they'll do a Cross Tourismo, seeing as they've done a Sport Tourismo in the Taycan...🤔
Still love my Porsche wagon, 4 years later :)
I wasn't completely sold until you quoted, "Biblically Fast!"... OMG, what a beast!
Gonna get stick but I just think the car is ugly.
It's trying to be two different cars at the same time.
Every manufacturer has an odd model that doesn't work. This is Porsche's.
Compare this to the better Taycan Cross Turismo and you can tell they've improved upon it
The guy doesn't have a clue about the Porsche panamera. Give up. He's talking rubbish. Learn the guy talks rubbish and has no factual knowledge.
Pretty wild theyre able to get a e-hybrid though.
👏👏👏 Outstanding presentation Sir
Thanks buddy 👊
Great video Joe. Loving the Panamera in Silver very compelling. 👌
As always. 10/10 joe 👏
If that hybrid has the Audi engine it's complete garbage according to Porsche mechanics.
In e-mode, it sounded loud inside. Is that just me? Was there much road/wind noise in the cabin when driving in electric mode?
You nearly ran out of room for the title mate 😀 Great review as usual, hope the back is better 🤛
Absolutely beast, decent review Joe. I'm considering buying one of those, particularly Turbo E-Hybrid Sport Turismo (not the S). Taycan is a good car, but it's meant to be a D segment car, whereas this is an E segment car. Well, that designation might not be on point though, I believe the interior quality is even better than an S class and a 7 series. My only question is, does PDK bother you in daily driving compared to a torque converter? Last time I tried the car, I felt the double-clutch gearbox is too performance-oriented for daily driving. That one was a Panamera 4 though, but it would be still good to know your thoughts. Well done, keep up the good work!
It certainly looks and probably feels like it has more character than the RS4 / RS6 would you think?
By the time you say the cars name it’s doing 100mph
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Oh... and that closing shot! Changed my mind, I want a Cinquecento!
You can't have a Pan anymore, unless it's a Sport Turismo, the hatch is dead.
The front looks so dated, I’d have a Taycan Turbo S Sport Turismo over this any day of the week.
Good for you
@@JoeAchilles1 thanks, got one on order 👍
Mclaren f1 was 0-100 MPH was 6.3 secs,25 years ago......
Will you please sing the Brexit “” F off “”song on your next video
Four large adults...puts two small women in the back. :D
I'm just here to vent about how much I currently hate my 2014 Panamera 4. I have spent $7,300 on the car in 1.5 months. Did I mention I hate the car?
Doesn't surprise me at 8 years old, it's probably had a hard life.
First time watcher and yes, great content. Instant sub.
Thank you 🙏
Does anyone know if you could fit 3 kids(9-12yrs, so no boosters needed) for a longer road trip in the back. Or is the 5th seat not good enough?
3 kids in the back is no problem
Any chance of you getting the non hybrid turbo s for a comparison?
I will ask, but don't think they have one unfortunately...
Pure class and elegance. Those Pixels are such a statement.
The car is brilliant too 😁
Why do people show the engine bay when all we see is the cover?
My dream car
Such a shame you dont get the sound anymore!
Great channel. Thanks for uploads
Joe, I've always loved your videos and love, love, love your verbal delivery of what you experience, but you still managed to knock me off my chair when you said you could feel your brain moving forward when you hit the brakes, and move back when you hit the accelerator. You are utterly hilarious, Mate! Thanks for making me fall in love with the Panamera Sport Turismo, although I don't see myself spending quite that kind of money on a car right now. LOL!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks buddy, glad you like my stuff and found that bit funny 😉👌👊
@@JoeAchilles1 it was hilarious!
Amazing motor.
Really is incredible
hi Joe, is that the same Cotswold road that Harry uses?
Bert. Yes it is
Yes sure is, local to both of us 👌
looks like same roads used by Harry's Garage
Funny to hear about the rarity of the Panamera in the UK. In The Netherlands the hybride version of the Panamera is quite a successful seller for Porsche!
Good one Joe, like the fun remarks about brain movement pushed forward, then pushed back :-). Apart from the good review of the car....
Reason for a hybrid versus v8 is annual €170 tax versus €2,400 in Ireland. Plus the ability to tell the greens to get lost , ur a hybrid 😉
Awesome review. Thanks for sharing Joe.
Cheers Peter 👊❤️
my wife has this car. It is great for hauling the kids around, heading to Costco, and shredding Teslas.
In hybrid mode I can get 25 mpg.
I would much rather take a Taycan than this. Have driven the Taycan normal hybrid a few times and its not even close to the Taycan in feel or agility.
Wonderful content Joe! Thank you so much 🙌🏾
May I please ask which phone holder you were using in the windscreen?
Thanks
I love watching the videos, where you’re standing next to a car; talking about it, because I’ve watched your feet, in every one of these videos, and I swear, your shoes are glued to the pavement. They never move. ✌️
Hey Joe! Great video once again! I couldn't help but notice your phone holder and wondered what you are using? Thanks
Did you find that some of the time you were trying to eek out as much electric range as possible, despite having the mountains of power? (I do!)
I have a Panamera 4 E-Hybrid Sport Turismo coming in July & looking forward to doing many many miles in it. Great video, Joe!
One of my favourite cars… if I had 150kish this would be my choice of car over cars of similar price
A great review, not that I'm interested in Porsches or the huge prices. Love how you drive that road, which I know well as does Harry.
At last a reviewer talking about the down side of a hybrid when the battery is flat and your dragging that weight around while paying more for the car on day one.
Saw a Blue 4s Sport Turismo in the flesh the other day , not as bulky as it looks in pictures
Ahhhh Harry Metcalfe’s test route I see! Thanks for the vid nicely done.
Really well done! Recent Panamera Turbo owner, here for a victory lap lol
If I’m in UK I’ll get one cuz it’s literally 2/3 the price of Australian ones
Love the Panamera. Try the GTS Joe, great performance and value from a “de-tuned” V8
Great review Joe, but if you are going to make statements as to it’s acceleration times I think you should verify it with a timing device.
I did?
Great presentation Joe, what a fantastic car! Worth the 145k if you have it.👍
Is this the Harry's Garage test route Joe? Looks familiar!
How does it compare with the M5 Comp, handling & comfort
The crayon interior looks really good and preferable to the red!
I can’t get enough of the turbo hybrid turismo 🤤
Reminds me of my old 928 S4: 130 miles in 55 minutes.
Who the heck can afford 160k on a car, thats bonkers!!