The Rise of US Totalitarianism | Panel
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- Free Speech & Safe Spaces
In part 1 out of 4 of this compilation series, we look at excerpts from the Maps of Meaning lecture series as well as how issues around free speech have affected Bret Weinstein, Heather Heying, Yeon Mi Park, Arif Ahmed, Dennis Prager, Rima Azar, James Orr, and Paul Rossi.
This ties to Dr. Peterson’s recent lecture at Cambridge, which he titled Why Free Speech Is the Antidote to Our Problems. In keeping with that motif, we hope this compilation inspires you to speak the truth and protect our most fundamental rights as sovereign individuals.
Why Free Speech Is the Antidote to Our Problems: • Why Free Speech is the...
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[0:00] Bret Weinstein: the Evergreen incident
[14:34] Paul Rossi: teaching at Grace Church
[21:07:] Dr. Rima Azar: blogs of Canada
[35:41] Dennis Prager & Adam Carolla: No Safe Spaces
[46:32] Arif Ahmed & James Orr: the shifting policy landscape
[58:33] Dr. Julie Ponesse: ethics of free speech
[59:32] Yeon Mi Park: unrecognized oppression
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Thank you for this interview. Would also love to see you interview Ward Churchill.
Jordan, thank you for putting this together. There's been a war for free speech since before we're fully aware.
I would love to hear you speak on freedom of choice as opposed to "freedom to choose".
I installed an Adblocker Mr Peterson. Respect from the Netherlands!
The distinction between the Left and liberals needs continued focus. Control isn’t limited to the Left and liberty is valued by conservatives. Where and when? Ah! Indeed.
The problem start with calling progressive commies "liberals". The ONLY way they are liberal, is liberating your rights and freedoms from you.
As a cuban who was born in a totalitarian regime who now lives in America I can assure with 100% certainty that America is moving to that system. The ruling class has all the money and loopholes they want, now they are moving to obtain the total control of the country for the foreseeable future. They have applied every single tactic that Fidel Castro applied in 1959. Divide the country in 2, support the "mentally weakest" side of the population while deeply discriminate the other. Gain control of the media to construct a reality, usage of labels against people that think differently. It is unbelievable what I am seeing. The whole thing is a political circus. One side pushing the agenda while the other one pretending to fight against it and letting things happen. The human perception entertained with a few crisis they create along the way. I give freedom a max number of years of 10. That's it. We are probably the last generation to experience some sort of freedom. I even have to be careful with what I write because many of my comments have been shadow banned without any notification. They control the servers, they control the platforms, they control the banks, army, government. Yes, a lot of people willing to defend freedom but in order to organize millions you need the platforms...
So true... give concessions to big oil, gain control of Fox News and use it to divide the country in two, and push to kick out those Mexicans (all ms13) and Libtards
It's called fascism.
It's really telling when you examine their attacks on masculinity. Labelling everything successful as toxic masculinity and grouping personal accomplishments in with rape and other horrors.
The media reaction to Tucker Carlson's Crisis of Masculinity is more telling than the media intended it to be. They see all existing systems as illegitimate power, and that includes masculinity in all of it's forms, so they have to destroy it. There's a reason they want to convince little boys that they're little girls. Turning as many enemies into allies as they can.
Are you speaking against dividing the country while simultaneously categorizing one half as the “mentally weakest” side?
@@FriarJoe66 Yes. Because it is a fact. Poverty and victimhood are 2 tools that make anyone easily deceivable.
I was born, grew up and have been educated in former USSR and in my worst night mare I could never imagine that I'd see totalitarianism rising and outright persecution of free speech in America and Canada.
You must really be freaked out by all of the right wingers passing laws limiting speech of teachers, book banning, and other fascist authoritarian actions happening across the US, right?
Same here. It's scary. Back to the USSR.
@@wakeupwithvictoria4816 да, не приведи Господь !
Same here
What's even more terrifying is seeing the Soviet flag being raised again over Cities.
As someone who is originally from a country that has banned twitter and youtube several times in attempts to suppress freedom of speech I simply cant fathom what is going on here in America. Thank you so much Jordan peterson for giving us perspective.
Yes exactly, United Nations BIG BROTHER IS ALL BUT ENTRENCHED IN THE WEST: not only in CANADA, although CANADA is well advanced due to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS committed to the WEF plan for the future by 2030 Global Government controlled by them, but we SHEEPLE also haven’t heard or read about this evil growing in the world since NAZISUM in Germany in the 1930s, resulting in WW2 52 million dead. it appears that CANADA will be the first western country to fall to this EVIL to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS, the TREASON has been spreading throughout UN controlled Governments in Australia, New Zealand, Britton, Netherlands, USA, remember the WEF Chairman admitted that they have successfully infiltrated the UN and many global governments, 30 years ago all UN 190 member countries' POLITICIANS agreed secretly to be governed by the Corrupt United Nations of Bureaucrats, signing agreements to implement UN agendas 21 and 2030 CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM (distraction) is being pushed by our TRAITOR POLITICIANS in LNP or LABOR/Gang-greens parties it doesn't much matter which UN-controlled Party is in control in your Country, we voters just give them each a turn to betray us for their UN Masters
Which country, if I may ask?
@@coyoteden8111 I am Australian, sadly watching my country and people being betrayed by our TRAITOR POLITICIANS. LNP or LABOR/Gang-greens, it doesn't much matter which UN-controlled Party is in control, we voters just give them each a turn to betray us for their UN Masters>>>>>understandable our young Australian voters say---But isn’t Agenda 21 an old dead agreement from 31 years ago? No, it is not an old ‘dead’ agreement. It is an agreement that is being kept very much alive by all three levels of government in Australia. Although it was introduced to the Commonwealth parliament way back in 1992, successive governments and Councils have been undemocratically implementing it ever since The Commonwealth considered AG21 of such importance that their commitment to this UN program was renewed in 2012 at the Rio +20 Conference which was attended by then Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Details of that commitment were recorded in the outcomes document from Rio +20 entitled, The Future We Want”: When Australia signed up at Rio+20 courtesy of Julia Gillard, we also signed up for the next stage, the Sustainable Development Goals (SDG’s) and the post-2015 agenda which is both a continuation of and expansion of, Agenda 21: Who is responsible for implementing or enforcing Agenda 21 in Australia? As then Environment Minister Ros Kelly in the Keating government pointed out when Agenda 21 was introduced to parliament on 26th May 1992, the Commonwealth is the driver of AG21, and assumes ultimate responsibility: In matters of national significance, the States are required to comply with the dictates of the Commonwealth regarding international agreements, hence various provisions of Agenda 21 have become firmly entrenched in State laws. As previously mentioned, this process was further strengthened by the introduction of the 1992 Intergovernmental Agreement on the Environment (IGAE) and the National Strategy for Ecologically Sustainable Development (ESD). The IGAE, which was signed by the Prime Minister, all State Premiers, and the President of the Local Government Association of Australia, enabled the Commonwealth to consolidate its environmental powers over the States and local Councils. Is Agenda 21 a bipartisan issue? Yes. Agenda 21 has long been supported by both major political parties and the Greens. Unlike the ALP and the Greens, however, the Coalition LNP did not declare Agenda 21 in their official policy platform even though it has long been supported by the highest levels of the Liberal Party. Is Agenda 21 democratically based, were the people given an electoral choice? No, it is not democratically based and the people were given no choice. The Australian citizens remain ignorant of the depth of the betrayal by past and present Politicians over the past 30 years, the ALP and the Greens show their indifference to the Australian people as they increase their borrowing to spend on UN agenda 21 and UN agenda 2030 implemented onto the Australian people 7 years ago, to create a GLOBAL GOVERNMENT of the WEST by 2030
Your country is doing the right thing in banning Western media. I know that's not easy to process, but the West is spewing out filth and rot, and it will destroy you.
@@coyoteden8111 Turkey
I am, as well of my daughter, are with you 100%. I'm sorry for what these many idiots can't find their way out of the paper bag they are in. Please stay with your convictions...there are a lot of "humans" left that appreciate your courage and intelligence. Thank you for standing up!
exactly, unfortunately, the indoctrination of the youth of the world has been well entrenched in all levels of learning, over the past say 15 years plus, then there was a 50 to 50 teaching staff between Conservatives and socialists, now its 1 conservative (Maybe) the rest are Socialists believing in the isms of histories of dictators that end up murdering all who resist their rule ( we call them the left and Liberals)
Amen, stay free
I grew up in a communist totalitarian regime. People lost their jobs and the opportunity to get a job because of what they thought or said. People were imprisoned for telling a joke and all kinds of other horrible things happened. A time where everyone was scared and no one was safe. I don't understand how people never learn anything from history.
HEY! DO YOU HATE EQUALITY OR SOMETHING?! WE MUST ADMINISTER EQUALITY BECAUSE OTHERWISE JEALOUS POOR PEOPLE WILL COMMIT CRIMES! THIS IS A GOOD VIEW OF HUMANITY AND SOCIETY.
They did learn. Thats why they are using it as a blueprint.
Kornelija: Pride and ignorance and corruption. Terrible combination.
It destroys us.
The solution is control in our communities. I have no power to change Washingto D.C, Canada or the Netherlands.
The advantage to living in the U.S., is that we are 50 sovereign states, and must control what our leaders are doing....this requires knowing the laws and administrative rules,, know what is happening with school boards,, city councils and state legislators. And get involved.
There is not a hero on a white horse that will ride in to rescue us.
@@mariussielcken Make them understand. Speak up often and loudly while you still can.
The wrong people won the war.
The fact that even academics can't talk risk-free about an increasing number of topics shows how lost we are.
they need make the step from teacher to politician; where they'd have zero responsibility for their actions let alone their speak.
"even academics"...?
Academia is the core of the rot...!
Not lost, we are being transitioned into a totalitarian state. The sooner folks stopped being shocked, dismayed, gobsmacked the sooner there will be true awareness of the threat and the correct response which is complete non-compliance on every level.
This is my first year in higher education, and i have cultural anthropology class. (I'm from Central Europe, and the univsersity if located here.)
We are free to talk about everything realted to culture and human behaviour thanks to our amazing professor.
We are processing so controversial studies every week that i doubt we would have the freedom to do this at some us colleges.
do I need to remind you that these "academicals" were the ones sowing the seeds of evil liberalism and communist ideologies? many of them complain now, but just take a look at the type of books they made their students read in these "academies". Take a look at what they discussed and talked inside universities. You will be proud! LOL they reap what they sow now. I hope they are ready for the harvest. It has come. And they will have their hands full!!!!
It never fails to amaze me, the things that do not get censored, versus the things that get censored.
censorship is certainly not about protecting children.
Net filtering is nearly always a simplistic blunt instrument.
Blocking on the basis of containing the word murder doesn't surprise me.
Go on a computer in a school in the UK & try to look up anything about the town of Scunthorpe, typically you'll find the search blocked.
Yep, advertising directly aimed at kids would be banned if that were the case. Think I've heard it some parts of the world, it is
My heart is with you Mr. Peterson, may God give you strength to keep fighting for the Truth and may he keep you close to his heart. 🙏🌹
I am astounded at the cultural change in my life time (I was born in 1984). I always considered myself a liberal and was concerned with the environment and helping the downtrodden in society while making sure people had freedom to say and do what they want within our societal framework. What a massive change from personal responsibility and onus to collectivism and group think/ identity....
Communism. And the creeps at WEF
You caused this crap!
literally 1984
@@whousa642 blame is a sure fire way to misery.
I'm a socialist, and yeah things have changed a lot since 1984 and the lack of action that has been made to preserve the environment and making the needed change. It's very unfortunate. 😩
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.” - Benjamin Franklin
Ministry of Truth
Ha ha we have TWITTER!
@@Aneebanana1 not good enough. you need youtube and IG freed up as well.
Problem is Franklin was an evil secret society (ies plural) member and the 1787 U.S. Constitution is weak with no safeguards against them taking over the U.S. which has now happened with the CIA Biden/Harris election steal for the Pedo-Illuminati.
@Jen Jones It's BS blaming 15.2M Jews for the Rothschild Illuminati criminal secret society whose real name is BAUER and are GERMAN.
I remember hearing about this back in 2017, and it made my fiancé and I have a deep feeling of "where does this go next?" That conversation we had that I'll never forget.
Jordan Peterson... The gift of YOU is awesome.. My boyfriend's and I, (i am 53yrs old and he's 62 yrs) really feel helped, saved and loved when we watch your analytical genius on All the topics. Please keep being here.. You are such a gift to the world. Give my love to Your strong and Beautiful Wife and Your Daughter and Your Son. You're a Blessing, THANK YOU! P. S. I have to eat the similar diet you do too. It is the only thing that works for Me. Prime rib last night🧑🍳😋
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As an academic and professor myself, I'm very alarmed at what's been happening in our universities. We're going down a very dangerous path.
Same here. I just quit from my university. Things are disastrous.
If you are just "very alarmed" at this point, you are lagging behind by about ten years. This thing originated in academia, and has been eating into mainstream culture from there.
It is a TERMINAL path. Terminal to the freedoms and avenues of opportunity of what the elites see as "dregs". Those freedoms will remain to the despots. And yet, in doing as they have, the elites appear to have unwittingly erected a prison of their own design around themselves. All choices have their cost.
@@proudatheist2042 do you want them to print their post code and house number as well ?
Instead of quitting stand up fight for what's right. Like how America and our constitution was biased on Christianity. And how our government has been acting way more like a dictatorship then a constitutional republic that we are. Our president is acting more like a king then a president. If people actually knew how our government is supposed to work we wouldn't have none of these problems. Your state governor has more power then the president. The presidents job is to be in charge of the military to keep us Americans safe from other countries.
I'm an ex-soldier, special forces. I have paid a heavy price for my service to Canada. Please accept my gratitude, for your service. You impact history. Your contribution's are priceless . The human race needs people like you. But the cost is real. ..... Best wishes ; my sincere , respect, trust and gratitude for you and your "Famile"
Jordan and you are a chip of the same block.
@@theovansteijn1135 Thanks for the compliment . Fortunately I grew up In poverty . So I appreciate , this thing we call life . But lets be clear Mr. Peterson is helping millions of people . His teachings are so needed that , that his words touch people , Like dry Earth drinks water . In comparison to him , well I'm not fit to carry out the "Chamber Pot" God Bless to all
My great uncle crossed the border to fight with Canada in 1916. Two good friends crossed the border to fly with Canadians in the Battle of Britain. We Americans just don't go joining some other country's armed forces. Except Canada. You ain't the neighbors, you are family. Because of people like you Canada will remain Free. Thank you for your service!
@@daleeasternbrat816 Thanks , almost no other countries have as close a relationship as Canada and the U.S. bless you , I love the people of the Eagle. P.S. During the Vietnam war Canadians were the highest Decorated ethnic group, lowest casualty receiving , Highest Casualty producing in the conflict. Times change , I hope Canadians can still make a good showing??? Good luck , God Bless.
@@rollandchapin5308 A lot of people don't pay attention to real history. For some reason mellow, laid back, orderly peaceful Candians become absolutely furious fighters when they find themselves in combat. Must be something in the water. I pay attention to what goes on in Canada. These are strange and dangerous times for both of our countries.
Excellent discussions! It's so important for people to understand that the censorship and cancelling is just the beginning; the end, as history shows, is imprisonment and death.
play soylent green.. euthanasia
I'm not one of those sensitive men, nor am I emotional, more of the hard, thick skinned type. But when I see good people having their careers destroyed when they didn't cause harm or wish ill will towards anyone, just standing on principle, I really feel for them. I almost cracked a tear when I saw the pain in Jordon Petersons face speaking about what he had endured.
I was at evergreen when this was going on. I remember wondering how a college who promotes freedom of speech, could have students with the perspective that you're not free to speak if I don't like what you have to say.
Colleges turn kids into commie s-c-u-m.
The Left is never logically consistent
"You are free to do as we tell you!" - Bill Hicks
@@thebiowatchlist He's well read on the dominance hierarchy, and he mentions it when it is relevant.
I hear/see him talk about a huge range of different issues and concepts, from religion to the War on the Wokeists, to foreign policy, to freedom of speech, to womens rights and to self-empowerment.
Don't put him in a box, he doesn't belong in one.
Boycott colleges and universities. Send your kids to trade schools and give them great books TO READ. You will save tons of money and have useful skills with which to MAKE money.
Dr. Peterson, thank you for being you and sharing your content. I came to Canada from a communist country where we couldn't travel and our passports were taken away for years. What I'm experiencing in Canada is firghtening. What's even more frightening is how many of ppl around me aren't even open to listening to anything other than what they hear in the MSM.
Yeah, that’s what’s strange AF! If you came to me and said you have proof that something is s lie, I don’t even know you, but I’m willing to hear your views. It wouldn’t make me hate you, like wtf?
Varga? Nice Irish name... Where in Hungary?
@@andrewvida3829 Close to Budapest. Are you in Europe?
Oh hell yeah ! Canada is going down a very dangerous road & I have little faith there will be anything to break the insane construction of a police state.
@@badgermacleod2037 I hear you....people need to wake up.
January 2023 - Bret and Jordan still towering over their lives, and helping people learn.
Keep on keeping on!
Jordan, sir, we have been being warned about totalitarianism for a long time now. My father had a book by Thomas Merton, who wrote about it, and It struck me an rang as true, and that was 50 years ago. I am still here to see it happening.
I live in a liberal state, and have lost all my friends by just speaking the truth of what is happening. People ive known most of my life. What is happening culturally, is absolutely jarring
Look at Florida that's how much it takes for normal people that are busy with their normal lives to wake up to this
I've lost "all" my friends too. Yet, they lost themselves somewhere along the way too.
It's a lonely yet inevitable position. Thinking can get you killed.
If you listen to people that have escaped communist China they say these exact same things happened there when communism was taking over. Everything! Separating people, creating division of groups by race, gender and any other group, creating hate for anyone that didn’t follow their ideas, shaming and canceling anyone that goes against their narrative, everything we have seen happened to them. This is how they take over.
It would seem you need better friends.
Thank you Gentleman for your fight for free speech . I'm a truck driver who was never interested in politics until the pandemic happen and the government,s of the world started to take our freedoms away. I hope everyone listens up and stand,s up against this tyranny.
I'm a junior truck driver, C1 and the wonderful CPC, and I came out of 'IT and computers' because I realised there are 'real jobs' in the world that the world can't operate without. Otherwise been following this stuff for years and the speed of change and cancel culture is breath taking, and laughable now Dr Faucci is finding his earlier 'work' being 'cancelled' these days. Can't make it up. But I have a real job in the real world. Pandemic or not, I go to work each day and that keeps my sanity.
You can’t block the economy from functioning. That’s not the government overstepping, that’s the law.
@@JustDisc Its all about consequences. As long you as you are not violent or in the military and violating a lawful military order, your consequences as a private citizen will range from employment or financial risks to minor infractions of local codes, plus of course the physical risks of being attacked by some sort of counterprotesting cracktivist who seeks to silence you. Even government service providers can quit their jobs without criminal consequence. Walkouts, strikes, boycotts, buycotts etc all have economic and social risks/consequences that are fundamental to freedom. Perhaps some private jobs that keep the economy working should be treated like the draft, with miltary prosecution for the noncompliant...oh wait, that's called Communism.
You're familiar with what pandemics are, right? And how societies everywhere have always reacted to them? Infectious disease killing millions, you... kind of want to try to get a handle on it. And it's going to limit freedoms.
Complaints like this always sound kind of like, "Everything was just fine between me and doctors until I got cancer, and they started telling me I had to do stuff. Fuck that, I'm free!" It's like, the doctor's not automatically wrong just because you don't want to participate in the treatment.
@@JustDisc It was the government overstepping to stop the economy and trampling the law and rights that was the problem in the first place. They apparently didn't like it when they were given similar treatment. It's the moral position to refuse to cooperate with unjust laws.
This was a great and necessary video. Thanks Dr. Peterson. Your videos continue to be valuable.
It didn't stop because what you said and what you opposed of compelled speech is a ever growing social norm and many people in our society were not Ok with it nor its reprocotions, but you are the only person who said "No" and eloquently and honestly spoke reason to the terrorized masses. Bravo. Please continue in good faith and strength of character and soundness of mind!
the UN was a humanitarian org for only about 30 years 40 Years ago they showed their corruption by introducing the "International Economic Orders" LIMA agreement as the UNs plan, ( the very same KLAUS SCHWAB was Chairman and creator of the IEO), they relabeled themselves we know them as the Billionaire Meghlaomanics in the World Economic Forum, KLAUS SCHWAB even brags about infiltrating the UN, United Nations BIG BROTHER IS ALL BUT ENTRENCHED IN THE WEST: not only in CANADA, although CANADA is well advanced due to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS committed to the WEF plan for the future by 2030 Global Government controlled by them, but we SHEEPLE also haven’t heard or read about this evil growing in the world since NAZISUM in Germany in the 1930s, resulting in WW2 52 million dead. it appears that CANADA will be the first western country to fall to this EVIL to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS, the TREASON has been spreading throughout UN controlled Governments in Australia, New Zealand, Britton, Netherlands, USA, remember the WEF Chairman admitted that they have successfully infiltrated the UN and many global governments, 30 years ago all UN 190 member countries' POLITICIANS agreed secretly to be governed by the Corrupt United Nations of Bureaucrats, signing agreements to implement UN agendas 21 and 2030 CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM (distraction) is being pushed by our TRAITOR POLITICIANS in LNP or LABOR/Gang-greens parties it doesn't much matter which UN-controlled Party is in control in your Country, we voters just give them each a turn to betray us for their UN Masters. thank you, Jordon Peterson, for your truth for humanity. you are a global treasure.
"I have something against being told what to say. I'll pay the price for what I have to say. I'm not going to pay the price to say what you want me to say. You go say it yourself and see what the hell happens." I love that. 13:00
Funny... I started to read your quote at the very same time Peterson was saying it in the video... word by word. Peterson would call it a peculiar synchronicity.
@@AlejandroRamos-im4to and he would be right.
Leftist experiment.. go to an insane 'college' and say something that sounds fair and equitable and SEE for yourself what the leftist is really like.
Nah, "coincidence" is the more correct word. No need for woo.
@@tsriftsal3581 definition of synchronicity: meaningful coincidence.
Wow, that last woman. seeing her break down at the thought of her father dying without ever knowing what freedom was, is absolutely heartbreaking.
So then to see people so callously take our freedom for granted, ignoring the tremendous sacrifice that was paid to give it to us, even to the point of wanting to throw it away... just wow!
Yeah that was Yeon Mi Park she's a escapist and survivor of the brutal regime of North Korea and yet the authoritarians on the left side of politics absolutely hate her instead of empathizing with her
because she lived in one of the most brutal regimes of our time she has a better ability than most others to tell when certain attitudes of authoritarianism are being adopted by the Free World
And despite being a refugee of freaking North Korea the left has completely slandered her and ostracized her or at least attempted to
@@rejvaik00 satan has poisoned their minds. Communism is satan's favorite way to control people.
Yes exactly, United Nations BIG BROTHER IS ALL BUT ENTRENCHED IN THE WEST: not only in CANADA, although CANADA is well advanced due to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS committed to the WEF plan for the future by 2030 Global Government controlled by them, but we SHEEPLE also haven’t heard or read about this evil growing in the world since NAZISUM in Germany in the 1930s, resulting in WW2 52 million dead. it appears that CANADA will be the first western country to fall to this EVIL to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS, the TREASON has been spreading throughout UN controlled Governments in Australia, New Zealand, Britton, Netherlands, USA, remember the WEF Chairman admitted that they have successfully infiltrated the UN and many global governments, 30 years ago all UN 190 member countries' POLITICIANS agreed secretly to be governed by the Corrupt United Nations of Bureaucrats, signing agreements to implement UN agendas 21 and 2030 CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM (distraction) is being pushed by our TRAITOR POLITICIANS in LNP or LABOR/Gang-greens parties it doesn't much matter which UN-controlled Party is in control in your Country, we voters just give them each a turn to betray us for their UN Masters
It's how most Americans will die. America is a fully totalitarian state with an absurd number of criminal laws, with the largest percentage of the population in prison - compared to any other country in the world. Most Americans are so indoctrinated that they don't understand that many(i'd say most) of the deeds that have been criminalized in their country, should not be criminalized at all.
So grateful for her perspective- I tend to get angry at the ignorant, instead of compassionate 😢
She is too nice to say what needs to be said and this is soul crushing!
it is going to be hard for people like you for at least a generation, guys, if we are lucky. we need people like you guys, though
I come from the worst case scenario, it sucks, but gave me the fortitude to support whatever will come. I have starved, spent days in blackouts, had to ration the water to whether take a shower or drink it, etc.
I feel pity for the Americans who are fighting for stupid things online just because they have never lived what I went through and when it comes their snowflake mentality will be put to a test. If today they all have ADHD, anxiety, etc. Wait until they got nothing!
@@abraham7966 Yeah, I lived in a bread van & then camper with my family til age 14. Light shower once a week? 1 gallon; A lot of hunger and quiet. The people I see bragging about pronouns now days have no idea.
I was a student in 1990s in NYC University. Back then students were ambitions and educational level was high. Most professors were conservative and education was relatively cheap. Then after 20 years, I started teaching as a adjunct professor at the same university I graduated from. I was shocked what I found out. The place has become a breeding ground of liberal and radical leftist ideas. Tuition went up 300% making education unavailable for working class people, and educational level went down significantly to the point that these institutions produce illiterate graduates. That is what you get when you do something in the name of “radical equality.”
Agreed. My Community college was filled with sharp students and accomplished teachers. Paradise for pennies if you did the work. Later, I graduated from a tiny liberal arts school that charged a fortune for mandatory anti racism sessions, compulsory meals and classes that were useless for getting a job outside of Subway. For a hundred years had been dedicated to conscience and service but has become a woke high school masquerading as higher education.
What universities departments tend to be that breeding ground? i.e. sociology, psychology, philosophy, political science, social work????? Please advise.
@@hadamerryweather577 Different at each location. If you want to know how to spot it look at the requirements for a diploma. It will be the ones you must take that are not S.T.E.M.
Pr'bly the BEST thing that Tuition skyrocketed to 300% - most regular working class ppl couldnt afford it so it must've helped to kerp the balance alive and far far away from those idiotic Woke Libturds that cant even find Chy-na on a Map - let alone understand the implications associated with holding ties too such a Communist Country!
They can keep THAT kind of a so-called Education!
Smh bc its so unfknbelievable!
@@IrelandVonVicious Thanks. I understand. In my day, before graduating with a BA in 1987, we chose a set of classes that were the predecessors of what is called woke culture. The series was called "institutional prejudice and discrimination". It was data based. The dialogue in these classes was sound and our papers were COMPARE & CONTRAST. In effect, we shared our opinions and drew conclusions that were respected. Not like today, where attempting to share a contrasting view based on data will get you shut down and typed as phobic or identifying with the oppressor.
Brilliant series to make. Not only is this showing Dr. Peterson’s warning but other people who see the rise of authoritarianism.
hahaha, these 2 guys are piece of crap Russian Paid Agents of Misinformation, paid by Russian Oligarchs for YEARS -- attempting to START Totalitarianism within America by dividing and planting seeds of anger everywhere they go.
It's totalitarianism - not authoritarianism.
The globalists from the World Economic Forum and their puppets such as Trudeau and his cabinet, the ruling governments of New Zealand, Australia, France, Italy, etc. - they all tyrannize their people WITHOUT any significant authority or social support, such as approval rating, which their all are below Vladimir Putin's approval rate of around 75%.
They rule through direct violence (Canada, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Australia), threat of violence, threat of stealing a citizen's property and bank assets, euthanizing his pets, kidnapping his children by "social services" (Canada especially) and fear- and hate-mongering propaganda through corporate media and mass censorship by proxy of the Big Tech cartel (all countries of the West).
They hold no authority.
It is not the RISE of authoritarianism. We have been living under authoritarianism for a long long time. Direct Taxation = authoritarianism Just try not to pay your 'fair share' and find out how long you stay 'free'. Now the centrally controlled (those behind the curtain) economy is on the brink of imploding they have to create chaos to stay in power. Divide and conquer. Climate is used for the same reason. There is nothing wrong with the climate.
Make the connections. Robert Malone has a substack worth subscribing to. He is demonized because he speaks truth to the corporate perversion that is destroying quality of human life. Peterson has his finger on the educational developmental pulse of the effects of this. Malone offers explanation and historical analysis of the cycles if inverted totalitarianism and how the US Constitution is being choked by it.
I mean the thing is it's no "rise" at all, merely a continuity that extends from the very -counterrevolution- "founding" of the US, seems inevitable it would gradually strip away basically the only agreeable thing about the US constitution (see Federalist Papers for more on that; contrary to our ubiquitous mythology, turns out these guys pretty much just wanted to emulate the Roman empire, specifically to _suppress_ any democratic mandate and dissolve accountability through a structure of process/baffles that only accepts elite - bourgeois, to be clear - input, see like Federalist 10 by Madison as it makes this pretty explicit, following along the same justifying logic as like Plato's five regimes where democracy is the last rung of civilizational collapse before tyranny, anyway I clearly digress jesus lol). Sheldon Wolin's conception of "inverted totalitarianism" is pretty useful here:
_"Inverted totalitarianism reverses things. It is all politics all of the time but politics largely untempered by the political. Party squabbles are occasionally on public display, and there is a frantic and continuous politics among factions of the party, interest groups, competing corporate powers, and rival media concerns. And there is, of course, the culminating moment of national elections when the attention of the nation is required to make a choice of personalities rather than a choice between alternatives. What is absent is the political, the commitment to finding where the common good lies amidst the welter of well-financed, highly organized, single-minded interests rabidly seeking governmental favors and overwhelming the practices of representative government and public administration by a sea of cash."_
_"While it is a system that aspires to totality, it is driven by an ideology of the cost-effective rather than of a "master race" (Herrenvolk), by the material rather than the 'ideal'."_
I mean talk about the death of free speech, look no further than Julian Assange's extradition to the US which now sets precedent for prosecuting merely _publishing_ classified government material, the very same Espionage act (in Assange's case, regardless of lack of standing it should be mentioned) used to extradite him was very clearly passed and used _for this exact purpose_ since its passing in 1917. People like Charles T. Schenck, Eugene Debs (recommend reading his Statement to the Court as it is in my opinion one of the great political speeches), et al. were convicted on it for merely speaking out against WWI showing its intentional function from the very beginning. I mean it's no wonder why, the most transparent way to reveal what's _actually_ going on and why we're in the "clusterfuck" (technical term) we're in beneath the thin blood-soaked curtain of US empire is to merely take even a passing glance at our "foreign policy" which amounts to a financial empire akin to the optimates of Rome but with guns and nukes.
I generally like Peterson as he has some insights here and there (usually not the ones he's intending if I'm being honest lol) but I do really wish he'd take a critique of capitalism seriously because you know, as it turns out, examining the way we organize _material reality_ at its foundation in terms of ownership and control (really the only question of politics is cui bono? benefits? cuts through rhetorical shibboleths) explains far more than a cabal of pretentious french intellectuals lol. Honestly, the term "cultural marxists" is pretty funny to me as it is a contradiction on its face to anyone that _actually_ understands marxism, which is intentionally grounded to a descriptive - ie _not_ normative - _materialist_ analysis of dialectical and historical materialism in the vein of Thucydides, unlike the caricature of normative moralizing dipshit that Peterson seems to unquestionably accept him as (not blaming him, red scare and shit, I get why, just saying). Hell, I was a "libertarian" dipshit for most of my life and only ended up reading Marx out of complete hubris, legitimately thinking I would "destroy" him with "facts" and "logic" only to come out the other side realizing he had crystalized many of the issues with society at large that I had intuited but failed to connect together/articulate in any larger framework of understanding.
Anyway, point being, I think we all agree on the trajectory of society toward the "common ruin of the contending classes", but will disagree on the root causes. So my contention would be that, as Sartre put it in presenting the need for existential consideration ("dasein" as Heidegger would call it, that Nietzschean life-affirming value creation; side tangent - I do wonder, has Peterson read The Genealogy of Morals or idk the freaking Antichrist, lol...just getting a similar vibe of not entirely getting the full philosophical ideas fleshed out by many of these guys, from my perspective at least, yet again I digress sorry), existence _precedes_ essence, which is to say "culture" doesn't spontaneously generate from the ether or something, right? It would seem to me because of that causality, existence preceding essence, "culture" is _cult_ ivated by how we organize _material_ reality, which is currently dictated by... *_*drumroll_** the "mode of production" of capitalism. Again, the question of cui bono? can cut through a lot of the kaleidoscope of cultural obscurantism/abstraction toward these underlying _material_ dynamics, ie a _class_ politics (why class is not some normative nebulous idpol nonsense, as it is by definition grounded materially).
_“The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.”_ - some guy
My heart goes out to you Jordan Peterson and your guests who have taken a stand for what is right and enduring continually persecution for this. May God bless you and protect you all for your courage and doing what is right.
Jordan... Thank you for existing. I've never detected hate in any of your talks.
We must all stand firm on principle. The world and the whole of man depend upon it. God bless you and your family! ❤️
Dr. Peterson is a very important person in this world. His presence on UA-cam is priceless to North America. His explanations and warning of encroaching communist social tactics are educating many young people who otherwise may never get this message. Thank you very much
you are so right!!
Look look at the Communists, and Marxists, cries the Fascist.
As a young person, I attest to this
as to the young, you first have to teach them how to read and understand that which they have read. With that they hopefully will learn to think.
It won't come through Communism, it will come through Fascism.
As a minority I’m appalled by institutions and many college students who don’t realize their brainwashed. It’s evident that we are where we are because many parents have allowed parenting in the hands of schools/institutions. Institutions know this and are taking advantage. Parents need to start parenting again.
@@proudatheist2042
Being proud and an atheist is the problem.
@@robertholland7558 that's like ceasing COVID testing then claiming, "We have no positive cases". Religion is not the issue.
@@Geezerelli how has athiest got to do with anything? You think believing in a diety solves all the problems?
Firstly. Stop referring to yourself as a minority. You're part of the problem if you continue to do so. You're just a person of society, not special.
@@robertholland7558 you don't need religion to define evil acts. Religion merely takes an evil act and tries to define it within its own doctrine to set a moral compass in relation to itself. Do you believe athiest and agnostics don't perform evil acts? Remove or redefining labels does not alter truths.
Thank God....at this point it is time to take the leap of faith if, in fact you are grateful. Each breath is an attitude of gratitude. Pilot missed the truth right in front of him and sent the breath of heaven to complete His task to overcome death. God bless.
Jordan, you are a good man. Although you are having to take an enormous amount of flack, over time you have exposed what is going on and opened the eyes of many, many people. Thank you.
Much respect to all of you with the courage to stand up and speak up about this issue rather than cower in fear to the mob cult
Many people are like the frog in cold water, being slowly boiled in a pot, but unable to make that leap to freedom until its too late. It needs courage to speak up.
Imagine Ukraine, now imagine you as the ukrainian? think on!!
This insanity is a HUGE reason I am in the process of taking early retirement after 18 years as a public school teacher in and around Oklahoma City. As to the question of why some speak out and some don't, for me it's simply been the fear of no longer having the financial means to adequately support my family. I have neither been the bravest, nor the most cowardly regarding standing up to this nonsense. One time I did choose to push back and express my views, it turned into a big, uncomfortable mess, and common sense did not prevail. It's scary and tragic how so many otherwise intelligent adults have become, for all intents and purposes, cult members. I'm libertarian, with both left and right views, but the most wicked societal danger right now is not coming from the right, and it's not even close. It remains to be seen whether Western civilzation will survive this.
Good comment. A lot of us are waiting on the edge, wondering what the he'll is going on here ?
Intensive purposes*
@@funtimes8296 I wrote it correctly.
@@paxonearth I'm just playin with ya
Totally bro. Liberals didn't storm the capitol building. Liberals aren't restricting voting rights. Liberals aren't the majority of domestic terrorism.
It's not stubbornness, it's just the right thing to do. Wish more people were like both of you.
The earth was spinning out of control and God sent Jordan Petersons to slow it down . I'm already grateful for Dr Peterson .
It never fails to astound me that people believe themselves compassionate when they want to use (force) other people to provide the compassionate service.
And what is Direct Taxation if not theft by force. Freedom has been lost a long long time ago.
It's not so shocking when those compassionate people get indoctrinated into the "everything is based in power" mindset. At that point it's just 'if I have power, I will use that power to shape this world into what I want, that is good because I'm compassionate, and they are evil because they're against me.' So I'm never too astounded by it. It's all part of the game they play.
They want to force other people to provide the compassionate service. So true. Like you I suspect their hidden motivation is selfishness and greed.
@@ducthman4737 Preach!
It's so they can feel virtuous without doing anything.
If you're reading this and what these two are saying resonates with you, please, when the time comes, stand up. You will feel alone, but you will not be alone.
I, am Spartacus!
I couldn't sleep;I then I was going to check out something else [here/UA-cam]
I'm glad you are of the same mind as I am. It's been 30 years since I was first introduced to my own way of seeing life and realized it was not the same as my closest friends.
I have been having these feelings since the Pandemic began. I sense the way the Country is going on in the way I think is off course. I had an intense experience in a dream I remember vividly, I couldn't just come up with something that profound all by myself. I know it's a lot more sinister than my peers believe. I am very grateful for this opportunity and hope there are many people who are in the same boat as I am in...I like the boat analogy btw. I know that you are right about the fact that I must speak out when I am confronted by this phenomenon. I don't know how I can do this but I believe that the Lord eill open the way. He said to me in the dream He'd lead me on my path!
@@cypressbutane4575 that phrase cracks me up. lmao. you have to be able to define it to give it rights! XD we can't even agree what it is!
You've got to fight for your right to party!
@@ceceliablackburn2131 I really hope things will get so absurd to the point that that people will wake up en masse from the woke slumber. Perhaps when one too many woke people get canceled themselves or get thrown under the bus from their own.they start seeing things clearly. I think we are already at the point in which more and more people are waking up from the woke slumber but are in the closet about it.
Unfortunately this type of thing happens in Australia too, one only needs to make a complaint to your employer about something you wrote on social media and you will get the sack,. Happened to a fellow bus driver who was sacked for some comments she made to her husband on fb. Someone decided to inform her employer and she was sacked.
Not in MY lifetime!
A fight to the death against Totalitarianism!
Dear Jordan and your family, please stay strong and understand that your free speech and strength gives many hundreds and thousands of people strength in return. We love and support you and thank you for all you do and have done. We appreciate all of your sacrifice. God is with you every step of the way. X
ᴛᵉˣţ𝄍✉𝑾𝒉𝔮ᴛᵗ𝑠𝑨𝑝𝑝 ✚𝟏𝟕𝟐𝟎𝟐5𝟖𝟔𝟐𝟏𝟔✔
ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs
ʟᴇᴛ ʜᴇʀ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ɪ ʀᴇғᴇʀʀᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜ◦◦
ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ◦◦ .
I think what helped you stick around was the fact that you laid everything out there for people to see. You were transparent in your thoughts. Turns out people love transparent people who can actually admit when they don’t know about something or when something is too complex to actually give a viable solution. People love you for being you Dr. Peterson. I know that’s why I listen. I want honesty in my life. Bitter honesty is always less painful than a sweet lie.
That also explains rogan's popularity.
@Ambient Music: To make you feel better apparently how you and I define “protection” are two different things
@Ambient Music: To make you feel better lol, you haven't listened enough, it's okay though, you're entitled to your opinion, which is JP's push back against bill c-16. Why don't you give sources for your opinion? I'd be willing to hear you out.
@Ambient Music: To make you feel better Perhaps one day you'll learn the difference between "protection" and "special rights".
@Ambient Music: To make you feel better because that “protection” isn’t actually protection, and it take advantage of those marginalized, who have less resources to fight it once they realize it.
They target “marginalized” groups for this very reason. It’s a trick.
Keeping people in the system isn’t helping them. True help would be to help get them out of the system.
This was also very enlightening and I’m so grateful for all of you. I will pray for you often. Thank you for speaking for those of us who don’t have a voice if anything touched me. It was “ How do you fight for freedom when you don’t you know you’re a slave” that’s the weapon being used against us. They’re just making us feel good about insignificant things so that it blinds us to the horror it’s upon us..
As I listen to this, my heart breaks foe you since circumstances has worsened for you 💔. Thank you for your continued courage and yes stubbornness to tell the truth. Praying for you and your family
“I know the price of silence.” This brings me into tears every time. I know the price too.
I’m so happy to hear Mrs. Peterson had made a full recovery.
Bret, Paul and Jordan are very courageous men. I’m thankful and inspired by this bravery and integrity.
Truth is a property of reality. The further from reality the greater the insanity.
We are living with the result of knowledge without wisdom.
This is problematic. Even as a minority man, I had to face a similar situation. However, it is encouraging to see that there are people like you willing to sacrifice, for the betterment of all. Courage is courage, regardless of the degree.
These radicals have made white people the bad guy of the day. If you get in their crosshairs and dare to disagree w/ them though, you might as well be white. I've seen it happen to E. Indian, black, native, really doesn't matter. Your race card only matters if they want to exploit you for a cause. You can still be white if they want to exploit you for a cause. Greta Thunberg, the Swedish girl, apparently autistic, definitely weird and exploited, is a case in point.
What I appreciate most about this conversation is that it's REAL and HONEST. Thank you for your high level of moral standards. It's inspiring and contagious 💜
Tbh I'm scared and depressed. Back when I was a kid, I never knew anything like this. I only knew love. Now everything is hate and control.
God bless you for taking a stand against this craziness.❤️🙏🏻👍🏻👏🏻🇨🇦
I'm sure you will find your comfort among bigots at church next Sunday. What else is new?
God bless, my man.
It's not 'incomperhensible stubbornness' but principle and character. You are an individual thinker who is not swayed by the majority of lemmings all heading in the same direction, instead you analyze and head in your own direction. This is why you are respected and followed by so many of us. You are a leader!
A valid sense of intellectual superiority, rather.
Stay strong Dr.Peterson!!! Appreciate you.
Jordon Peterson, please don’t stop being an adversarial questioner for without this how do we derive at the truth?
Yes, it’s a hard fight & yes, it’s madness that those who weld so much power, want to silence any opposition to their ideologies but we need you as our voice.
You have no idea how many of your listeners support you. ❤❤❤🙏🔥🙏🔥🙏🔥🙏❤️❤️❤️
Imagine going to a university/college that values freedom of speech, equal opportunity, liberty over liberalism, and the right to be offended. I would be honored to attend a place that espouses those virtues. That would be a rigorous academic experience that CHALLENGES your established perceptions and PROMOTES personal growth.
Wishful thinking
Hillsdale College is all that and more.
It was still like that in the mid 2000's at least where I went.
You might study whatever you like online and form discussion groups for free, that's what I do.
Where is this place, this college?
Two of my favorite speakers on freedom of speech in one discussion! Will listen while gardening! Thank you both!
I've listened to Peterson for a whe, but meter heard the other guy. I will surely subscribe and like to listen to him more.
ps. I listen always while I clean ;)
It doesn't stop Jordan because those of us who think like you have very real enemies, as enemies they will not stop. So, we must add resolve and determination to our convictions.
What it takes, "gentlemen", is true empathy and a genuine commitment to recognizing that every sentient being is fully worthy of respect and compassionate consideration. The argument that, "It's always been that way, and it's worked just fine", is a horrible reason to not fix things that are obviously exploitative and cruel.
Of couse "it's worked just fine",.....for straight, white, men, rarely for anyone else. Other people have always had to struggle in a system by and for you.
The price of being loyal to your own conscience is terrifying, however is not as terrifying as a world without conscience
It’s heart breaking how much torture a wonderful person as Jordan Peterson has gone through the past few years with himself and his family health wise. If the personal attacks on him weren’t bad enough, all this other stuff had to be crushing. I pray this man and his family has the best of life from here on out.
@@steven5054 sins? Sins of what?
Evil has no bounds
@@marksauck8481 Don't feed the troll.
@@marekrudnicki4645 ok
@@steven5054 im sorry but only man has ever suffered for my sins and his name wasn't Jordan Peterson.
There’s an old saying the left needs to think long and hard on because it applies perfectly with them. “Be careful what you wish for, you may get it”.
Just follow your results.
When does the left think? Ever?
Yes exactly Mark, United Nations BIG BROTHER IS ALL BUT ENTRENCHED IN THE WEST: not only in CANADA, although CANADA is well advanced due to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS committed to the WEF plan for the future by 2030 Global Government controlled by them, but we SHEEPLE also haven’t heard or read about this evil growing in the world since NAZISUM in Germany in the 1930s, resulting in WW2 52 million dead. it appears that CANADA will be the first western country to fall to this EVIL to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS, the TREASON has been spreading throughout UN controlled Governments in Australia, New Zealand, Britton, Netherlands, USA, remember the WEF Chairman admitted that they have successfully infiltrated the UN and many global governments, 30 years ago all UN 190 member countries' POLITICIANS agreed secretly to be governed by the Corrupt United Nations of Bureaucrats, signing agreements to implement UN agendas 21 and 2030 CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM (distraction) is being pushed by our TRAITOR POLITICIANS in LNP or LABOR/Gang-greens parties it doesn't much matter which UN-controlled Party is in control in your Country, we voters just give them each a turn to betray us for their UN Masters.
The left thinks they will be the ones in power. They forget Stalin got rid of anyone who he felt threatened his power.
@@deltakilo9970 exactly, unfortunately, the indoctrination of the youth of the world has been well entrenched in all levels of learning, over the past say 15 years, that there was a 50 to 50 teaching staff between Conservatives and socialists believing in the isms of histories dictators that end up murdering all who resist their rule ( we call them the left and Liberals)
Yonmi's tears beautifully encapsulate this piece. Thank you one and all for fighting tyranny. We all must play our part in this battle for humanity.
I feel for you Jordan . Stay strong you are changing the minds of people on a daily basis and for the better. You are making a HUGE difference. Anybody with half a brain would agree and defend your values, your ethics, your morals, etc. You are a great man and I highly respect you.
I spoke up at my job to say No to abuse (of me) by management and subsequently lost that job. Like professor Weinstein, I am disappointed by the number of others who are also doing so (as in how few the number has been), but I would do it again. I had no choice. I could not live with sitting still and staying silent, either. ... Hang in there, gentlemen. The world needs you to stay brave and keep going. We cannot let the darkness smother the light, even if we have to fight.
Those hopelessly dependent on the system will do anything to preserve it.
Thx very much for this smorgasbord of stories of those who spoke out for real freedom, despite the consequences.
That includes yourself of course. They are all inspirational.
Didn't know your wife was terminal. Saw a brief spot with her and Ms Mikhaila laughing with sheer joy over a story where your wife had written to Reader's Digest about some subject and got $100, unexpectedly I assume.
To watch a mom and daughter enjoy such humor together completely, is a pleasure to see ... and a good thing on the earth.
I am extremely happy for Mrs Peterson's recovery and that of you and Ms Mikhaila also.
Thx again and all the best to you and your loved ones.
Same thing is happening in Brazil! It's disgusting, sad, and will cause many deaths.
YES!!!!!! No one could have predicted (even you) the explosion in your reach that would occur as a result of your public exposure. It is because you continued to speak out on many different levels and you struck many nerves that most people never new they had. You provided hope, direction and understanding in many people who were not able to accomplish this understanding on their own, especially in this crazy social media world. The plus side is that without the social media you would probably never come close to your level of impact and fame. The two most powerful things you speak of is to take responsibility and to speak the truth as much as is possible in all that you say. Keep up the great work.
Jordan, you are such a wonderful and fair person. I hope this story gets heard.
this story is so blindly off topic, can't believe you are saying this.
You bet it will be heard. Criticizing irrational almost non-existent woke and cancel culture is the best way to gain followers and make more people buy your books these days. Especially placing yourself into a martyr role makes your views go skyrocket.
Invent fear -> make people scared -> people will follow you for telling them ------------> Cmon, even most religions Christianity included used the same propaganda tactics throughout the history...
@@milansvancara the way our country is heading you should be scared. We've got a president that has dementia and if another country wanted to attack us now would be the perfect time. That should not only scare you but it should have everyone nerves as hell.
@@mitchgray5610 Even if the president was a tomato, it was about time to strip a lot of power from that office, so the system could finally resemble a modern democracy instead of dictatorship...
The less power in hands of one man the better
I just want to say thank you to everyone involved with putting this video out. Like so many others from Dr. Peterson, there is a potent message being delivered. My question is: How many more issues can be risen before the levy breaks? We are dealing with so many unresolved problems as humanity (race, gender, politics, religion, education, equality, etc) that it seems we are on the brink of something, and perhaps this University rhetoric is the beginning of that?
The very last one at the end got me. Made me cry. It was also so relatable, as someone who came from a quite extensive and complex abusive background.
I love some of the questions Jordan Peterson asks. I love it when someone is willing to make a person explain instead of just letting them get away with claims.
GMTA! Inquisitive spirits!
"We were keeping our eye on 1984. When the year came and the prophecy didn't, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of themselves. The roots of liberal democracy had held. Wherever else the terror had happened, we, at least, had not been visited by Orwellian nightmares.
"But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell's dark vision, there was another - slightly older, slightly less well known, equally chilling: Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. Contrary to common belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing. Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But in Huxley's vision, no Big Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
"What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we desire will ruin us.
"This book is about the possibility that Huxley, not Orwell, was right."
From "Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business" by Neil Postman.
Totalitarianism through apathy and pleasure; very few people are naturally wary of entertainment, whereas we all have an inherent sense of how dangerous violence is.
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa
thank you. I wish I could share your reply as a post.....what I don't get is why some humans thrive to come up with such atrocious plans and social systems.....its so non human......we're going back to the attrocities done under ww2.....that 1 leader 1 world thing is a nightmare in the happening.....Everyone is afraid to stand and fight it because peer pressure or straight out repression and having its life ruined, as being seen in the recent years....But togetherwe stand and no power can shut us off if we are legions....Let's hope a proper wake up happens before the inevitable.
Its good for me to view entertainment as junk information. In the same sense food can be junk for your body information can be for the mind and sadly as you say not so many people are aware. We only have so much storage in the hard drive that is our brains.
Brilliant, thank you for the insight.
Read it in HS (early 00’s)…some days I wish I hadn’t.
I would add it appears to this layman that we face a dynamic blend of ‘84 and BNW. Not mutually exclusive and probably not the only relevant premises; rather just two of the more popularized fictional iterations.
I think as we stand up for what is right we assume others will stand with us. What is going on is so insane that no one can comprehend it in an intelligent manner.
Yes, the Postmodern compartmentalize of peoples Identity of Feelings, and not based on Objective Facts. Standing on Prinsipalities is when we are pressed with our culture changes, as things are so Upside-down.
I know nothing about wokism except for the article in the New York Times which appalled me: +2021.08.27, "New York's Private Schools Tackle White Privilege. It Has Not Been Easy.", by Michael Powell. What connection is there if any between postmodernism and wokism? I have sudied something about postmodernism, especially the architect Robert Venturi who celebrates superficiality ("Learning from Las Vegas") and even built a home for aged Quakers ("Guild House") which he himself described as a cynical statement about old people, and who condemned modernist architects for wanting to raise the cultural level of "the masses". Is there nobody today carrying on the spirit of The Bauhaus?
What is more terrifying is that the authoritarians fail to acknowledge that the measures they take to "protect" groups of people and ideas surrounding those groups are authoritarian measures. There is no sacrifice too great for them. Their whole value system is skewed towards one direction at the expense of everything else.
It's like the Jungian shadow has manifested over their personality. They believe themselves the protectors of freedom for these minorities, while suppressing the freedom of everyone else.
It's likely the Zatzis operated on this same genetic disposition where these would be moderate lefty people's empathy has been hijacked by ideology. Is it because they lack critical thinking skills? Or is there another reason?
There's seemingly no way to snap people out of it.
Precisely correct. Like Nazis or all Communist nations they feel virtuous in their intense persecution of those who refuse to accept their lunatic ideology whilst simultaneously viewing themselves as morally superior to Nazis and Communists. They're at least as bad and cannot see it.
@@highlightning6693 It should be mentioned that they don't even acknowledge that it is an ideology either, to them it's a rational response to reality (or at least a reality constructed by "trusted sources"). They just see the half truths they've been told as the entire truth without room for criticism or questioning.
Just what the hell happened to these people that they could become so religious in their faith? I guess it's the desire to fit in compounded with not wanting to have the "wrong opinion" in regards to sensitive topics like racism and homophobia.
But then why are they so triggered by people that do oppose them? Why do they think that they need to be in an echochamber where everyone agrees on everything and there's no discussion, no dissent, no expression if it's the wrong type of expression.
When did disagreement become threatening?
I get defending a community from toxic people, but you'd have to be hella xenophobic to get mad at people for having different social standards and beliefs alone.
But to them it's justified... Anything to protect these conceptions that seem to fall apart at the slightest breeze of opposition.
Okay, that's a fair point but before this, policies were skewed against us minorities. If you have really studied history, at least the last 50 years, you would know that even white women had it bad.
@@jZamora87 That doesn't take away from my point though...
Oppression doesn't justify more oppression in response. "reverse racism" is just racism.
Some policies and cultural practices were bad, that means they should be removed if not already, not that new inverse policies be employed to cause the same or similar problems.
Government getting involved in culture is a terrible idea and will amplify resentment from both sides. You shouldn't get arrested for being offensive or insulting (like in the UK).
Minorities who were actually subject to such policies and communities feeling the aftershock of oppression can be compensated but only so much. If it's taken too far, these groups become dependent on the government and fail to contribute anything back into the society they are supposedly a part of since they don't need to (cough cough- Native Americans)
The main reason African Americans aren't as successful as whites in America is because of a culture which harbors resentment towards American capitalist culture which is further perpetuated by CRT. And not directly because of this oppression aftershock.
When it's ingrained in your belief that you don't succeed because of problems that are outside of your control, then you are ensuring that you won't even try to succeed.
I love how Jordan is asking tough questions but not in an aggressive manner and is then helping to hash out the answers. We need a lot more of this, criticize and solidify our own ideas, be willing to scrap what doesn't hold water and refine the ones that do.
E xcelent ! True... Congratulations for clarity of your speach...I will vote you( never I voted Conservative,I voted NDP...and I am disapointed by federal lider; but I apreciate very much BC lider..David Eby..who is like you! Honest,articulate,and truly for ..ordinary people)
fantastic interviews and discussions. Thank you to all of you for this.
I absolutely appreciate all those who have stood up, the price is steep, and the immediate rewards few. We cannot allow free speech to be supressed, when truth is distorted, death often follows.
You git that right. Also you are lucky, I am from Germany there is not "real" freedom of speech here. Never was though. Being offensive here has always been a felony.
I have decided that I'm willing to die to live in the light of truth.
I find it completely absurd that anonymous persons can cast allegations, lodge unproven guilt and libel and slander professional people without proper due course. I believe we as a community should encourage litigation for financial and reputation as loss against these parties. The internet should not protect anonymous attacks without an adequate process of discovery IMO. Great compilation and investigation from JP, we need more of this push back IMO.
Anonymous attacks are not the problem. Media and institutional attacks are. Removing anonymity online would 100% destroy the free speech that is still occurring.
the UN was a humanitarian org for only about 30 years 40 Years ago they showed their corruption by introducing the "International Economic Orders" LIMA agreement as the UNs plan, ( the very same KLAUS SCHWAB was Chairman and creator of the IEO), they relabeled themselves we know them as the Billionaire Meghlaomanics in the World Economic Forum, KLAUS SCHWAB even brags about infiltrating the UN, United Nations BIG BROTHER IS ALL BUT ENTRENCHED IN THE WEST: not only in CANADA, although CANADA is well advanced due to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS committed to the WEF plan for the future by 2030 Global Government controlled by them, but we SHEEPLE also haven’t heard or read about this evil growing in the world since NAZISUM in Germany in the 1930s, resulting in WW2 52 million dead. it appears that CANADA will be the first western country to fall to this EVIL to their POLITICIAN TRAITORS, the TREASON has been spreading throughout UN controlled Governments in Australia, New Zealand, Britton, Netherlands, USA, remember the WEF Chairman admitted that they have successfully infiltrated the UN and many global governments, 30 years ago all UN 190 member countries' POLITICIANS agreed secretly to be governed by the Corrupt United Nations of Bureaucrats, signing agreements to implement UN agendas 21 and 2030 CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM (distraction) is being pushed by our TRAITOR POLITICIANS in LNP or LABOR/Gang-greens parties it doesn't much matter which UN-controlled Party is in control in your Country, we voters just give them each a turn to betray us for their UN Masters
agreed niw knkw and acept the media is run bybthe integence agencys as a mind control program know that all the intel agencys across the globe are interfonected ( 5 eyes )...also knkw those intel are the grunts doin the dirtynwork for the elitists( tecnocrats oligarchs banksters the power elite like the free maosons the jeauits the un who nsa all the alphabet agencys and the ultimate agend is TOTAL GLOBAL DOMINATION 1 WORLD SYSTEM ( AKA NWO and its esencialy satanic/ lucifarian in its origins ( meaning paganisum as a norm meaning pedofilia PEDOFILIA AND CHILDREN AS A SOURCE TO SACRIFICE IS THE END GOAL OF THE NWO LUCIFARIAN PAGAN PEDOFILES ? ANY QUESTIONS ?? ( they hang out together ok like on epsines island for example ? GET IT NOW ????
Unfortunately, that's an obstruction of free speech and therefore is not a very good idea
Jordan, all these people, like yourself, are brave individuals.
100% agree with both perspectives.. One has information overload, the other is still curiously perplexed..
Good job Dr. Peterson! I love how all the true academics speak out and ending with what totalitarianism does to real people.. brilliant!
Unfortunately too many are sleeping
I feel many people are going to perish in the coming times
Glad to see this convo happening
Dr Peterson stood up for what’s right and even tho the demons went after him, God just blessed him more. Let’s take a lesson from that.
Things Are shifting
They can not bully for Ever
Let keep talking
You all have Been inspire
We read 1984 in 9th grade in public school in 1990, and most of us got the picture. That's the education level you'd need to have alarm bells go off witnessing modern America. That's what scares the hell out of me. People educated out of their ability to apply common sense.
Animal Farm is a good read as well.
I know people who have read 1984 and Animal Farm but still can't recognize what's going on. They even spread stupid memes claiming what's going on isn't in the books, that those making those claims are conspiracy theorists.
@@Sikhindu Too bad that they miss the idea that 'pigs' transform into 'men's as it explains unions as well as political representation.
@@kerwinbrown4180 you and I find that easy to understand, most people around me don't. They even have trouble reading into TV shows they like, I see more in there than they do. People basically can't think anymore it seems.
@@Sikhindu Mentally lazy?
This is a very important issue!
JP is looking well and strong.
Keep up the great and brave work.
May God continuously guide and protect you, give you and yours, peace of mind, heart and soul. Amen
Take good care of your health.
We need you so much.
God bless and protect you.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤
It’s amazing that plebe students can have an accomplished professor removed, one that has more education and experience in life. 😑
Safe spaces are a crock and an excuse for not being up to snuff.
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It's not amazing it's terrifying
@@suemassey5076 True that! That’s what I meant. I guess I was being sarcastic.
@@thebiowatchlist They have families and jobs. Actually the college sided with the students. Peterson was standing up to you stupid ignorant children. Stop trying to rationalize everything you read to your advantage. Students are there to learn. The teachers/professors have education plus real life experience. If you don’t want to go to college leave! Just stfu.
@@thebiowatchlist great misinterpretation you have there
I look forward to seeing you in Minneapolis Dr. Peterson. I've been learning from your lectures and self authoring tool and you inspire me to be better, not just ok, but striving to be better. Then I realized that surviving isn't "ok". I need meaning and purpose, not just getting thru a day without something horrible. How do we get to a point where we feel a good day is just the absence of calamity.
Thank you for standing up for American principles at great harm to yourself.