Thrustmaster Warthog Slew Upgrade

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
  • Welcome to The Warthog Project!
    This video shows my install of a Slew Sensor upgrade kit for the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Throttle.
    The kit can be purchased from deltasimelectronics.com/ - looks like they are currently out of stock but are taking orders.
    As usual this video was not sponsored in any way, I bought the kit myself with my own money and all opinions are my own.
    I'll give it a run for a few months and will report back in the long term how it goes, but for now i can tell its a huge improvement on the original 'Nokia 6600' slew sensor.
    All my plans, panel files, and 3D printing .stls are free for download at thewarthogproject.com/
    I sometimes livestream on twitch- / thewarthogproject
    Or check out my Instagram at- / thewarthogproject
    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:
    How much did this cost?
    Answer is explained fully right here! - • What it Cost! - A10C W...
    What Game/Sim is this?
    Digital Combat Simulator World (A-10C Tank Killer II) - www.digitalcombatsimulator.co...
    Can I have a free copy of all your panel design files?
    Yes you can! - thewarthogproject.com/downloads
    What software do you use to warp the projector image? Fly Elise-ng Immersive Diplay Pro - fly.elise-ng.net/products/
    What software do you use to export the gauges on the main panel?
    Helios - github.com/HeliosVirtualCockp...
    What are your PC Spec?
    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master, Intel i7-9700k OC to 5ghz, 32GB Corsair RAM, Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Waterforce Extreme Edition, Samsung 920 EVO M.2 1TB SSD (OS and DCS), Samsung 860 QVO 2TB 2.5" SATA SSD (Storage), Two XSPC 360mm Radiators, EKWB Velocity CPU Waterblock, EK-RES X3 250mm with D5 water pump, Custom Hard Tubing, Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic Black Case. All RGB turned off!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 280

  • @daverhodes7235
    @daverhodes7235 4 роки тому +103

    What faith. Reassembling before running a test.

  • @Dopey117
    @Dopey117 2 роки тому +2

    No one talking about how this man got a master caution in game for an IRL switch wiring issue (18:09) this is peak gameplay

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 4 роки тому +20

    I love how a video about replacing a switch is just as interesting as one about a whole panel!

  • @sedlo
    @sedlo 3 роки тому +21

    Hey The Warthog Project!
    Just wanted to say I received my upgrade kit today, and had it installed in about 15 minutes, thanks to your awesome tutorial!
    Thanks very much for this, it helped immensely.

  • @OzDeaDMeaT
    @OzDeaDMeaT 4 роки тому +35

    i did mine about 2 years ago, its a fantastic upgrade.

  • @nick4819
    @nick4819 4 роки тому +22

    Man I have to say.....your build is amazing and something I could only dream of. I absolutely enjoy watching these videos and seeing the effort and quality you are putting into it.

  • @TEACypher
    @TEACypher 4 роки тому +9

    I have been running this upgrade for near a year, always found it works well at far superior.

  • @CodesmithSoftware
    @CodesmithSoftware 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for posting this video, was a great help when doing the upgrade today. Actually found out about the upgrade from this video too. Makes a huge difference in the games

  • @Jakes_1-1
    @Jakes_1-1 2 роки тому

    I ordered one on Thursday last week and it was delivered today...just installed it following your video. Thanks so much for this and for introducing me to this AMAZING upgrade. Almost 2 years later, your video is still helping people discover and install the best thing to happen to the Warthog!

  • @chrisoz4929
    @chrisoz4929 3 роки тому

    I’ve just ordered this. Thanks for you comprehensive instructions, they should make the job much easier

  • @ziljanvega3879
    @ziljanvega3879 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely amazing cockpit you've got there.

  • @StanfieldMacCue
    @StanfieldMacCue 4 роки тому +77

    I see Aussie cats are no different than here in the States.

    • @thewarthogproject
      @thewarthogproject  4 роки тому +34

      Domestic house cats are much more aggressive and violent down here as they have evolved to survive drop bear attacks.

    • @StanfieldMacCue
      @StanfieldMacCue 4 роки тому +9

      @@thewarthogproject So they're douchebags perpetually on the wrong side of every door here, and they're *violent* douchebags perpetually on the wrong side of every door there. Got it.

    • @MrMaximus19822
      @MrMaximus19822 4 роки тому +4

      @@thewarthogproject DROP BEARS!!!!!

    • @welshparamedic
      @welshparamedic 4 роки тому +4

      And here in South Wales too (The Original South Wales or as it is also known as 'Old south wales as opposed to our antipodean cousin's 'New South Wales!)

  • @pspicer777
    @pspicer777 3 роки тому +1

    Cats are always on the wrong side of a door. Great video - thanks!! Just purchased mine ... June back in stock with 6 wks delivery est.

  • @MichaelLochowitz
    @MichaelLochowitz 3 роки тому

    Mine was delivered today, I just installed it and it is amazing. What an incredible difference. It took a few weeks to arrive but well worth it.

  • @Britchot
    @Britchot 4 роки тому +2

    I upgraded mine a couple months ago and had the same trepidation about updating the throttle firmware as you did. Glad it worked out for you, too. Simply the best mod to the Warthog next to the free push-through AB detent mod.

  • @dreadthelionheart
    @dreadthelionheart 2 роки тому

    Stopping in to say thank you for this video. I got this and a pinky switch from these guys and knocked it out. So much better! Thank you

  • @McLoven-vm1ck
    @McLoven-vm1ck 4 роки тому +2

    Nice, thx for the video on this product. Definitely need that thing on my Warthog.

  • @michaeldehart648
    @michaeldehart648 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. Just ordered my kit...can't wait!

  • @maxsteele20
    @maxsteele20 2 роки тому

    Sold my old Warthog few years ago...realised my mistake, just picked up a new one and first thing I did was order the Upgrade kit after watching your informative vid. Works great! Well happy.

  • @chazflyz
    @chazflyz 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Got mine up and running. Removing the old sensor was the most challenging for me even though it should have been the easiest. Some of the internal wiring was very short and I could barely give myself enough space to remove and install the new sensor. Anyways, all good. Cheers

  • @welshparamedic
    @welshparamedic 4 роки тому

    Many Thanks for making us aware of this modification and how to do the job too!

  • @DeanMurphyCDM
    @DeanMurphyCDM 3 роки тому +1

    Just followed your guide. Ten minutes. No drama. Thanks for posting :)

  • @NorthernerInSpace
    @NorthernerInSpace 4 роки тому +1

    Nice! I am ordereing myself one of these! Thanks for showing it!

  • @shinidigami
    @shinidigami 3 роки тому

    This is amazing! I am definitely getting this! Thanks for showing it!

  • @dishdoggiegaming7254
    @dishdoggiegaming7254 2 роки тому

    I just installed this same kit after watching your Video I ordered one and after it shipped to America about 2 1/2 weeks lol snail mail. I did the Install just like your Video Perfect step by step Instructions. It was very easy and just like the Video all worked fine at the End of Calibration. Thank You

  • @pchappy2.0
    @pchappy2.0 4 роки тому +1

    In for the "that's what she said" jokes! Awesome upgrade and thanks for the detailed installation and review!

  • @wmgthilgen
    @wmgthilgen 3 роки тому

    i happened across this video a couple of weeks after I purchased a Warthog and Throttle last year. It arrived with the switch you posted here about. Utilizing your video, I was able to switch out the standard and replace it with the new included one. THANKS

  • @James-fy9mq
    @James-fy9mq 4 роки тому

    Thanks I couldn`t of replaced it without your video, nice cockpit !!

  • @rumblefishes
    @rumblefishes 3 роки тому

    Thank you, fellow Aussie here, followed your instructions for the install, smooth as, much obliged!

  • @BasictoFinal
    @BasictoFinal 4 роки тому +1

    Wow this is awesome! Looks like I'll be adding this to my to-do list haha. Great video! (Awsome simpit btw)

  • @sschreck
    @sschreck Рік тому

    Man you have such an awesome setup it goes so above and beyond. I tip my hat to ya.

  • @Elysian_Angel_
    @Elysian_Angel_ 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this video. I just ordered myself one as well, along with the pinky switch replacement :-)

  • @sierramikebravo7332
    @sierramikebravo7332 4 роки тому +4

    Outstanding videos mate. Love the brief cat interjection. Keep up the good work!

    • @rogierkraan
      @rogierkraan 3 роки тому

      Scott Bretland yep, good to cool off my brain after all that Information.

    • @iamrocketray
      @iamrocketray 2 роки тому

      Typical cat, hates to be left out of anything!

  • @philbivins7133
    @philbivins7133 4 роки тому +11

    Excellent video. If my college professors were as good as your "how to" instructions, I would have been further down the road...LOL

  • @KerboOnYT
    @KerboOnYT 4 роки тому

    That looks like a great upgrade and thanks for the informative video

  • @Narcosis71
    @Narcosis71 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this vid. As a result I have done this upgrade and it was easy as! Legend.

  • @MikeLitoris66
    @MikeLitoris66 2 роки тому

    Thanky you! I had a successful installation thanks to you! Loved raging at the cat moment too!

  • @112-DavidL
    @112-DavidL 4 роки тому +4

    3:09 LOL :D how Aussie was that "That can get F*ed off"

  • @M0xx1
    @M0xx1 3 роки тому

    Done this today and everything went perfectly well :)

  • @Travis_125
    @Travis_125 4 роки тому

    Thank you. I have owned two warthog hotas and thought that they were broken due to that slew switch due to everything else being so smooth.

  • @viperkeeper
    @viperkeeper 2 роки тому

    Cheers Mate! Just ordered a replacement.

  • @thomsonb
    @thomsonb 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the guide mate

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed 3 роки тому +1

    Ordered mine! Can't wait! :)

  • @OperatorPuski
    @OperatorPuski 2 роки тому

    I just ordered this and can't wait for it. tired of the "thinkpad nub" stock slew. Finally no more constantly fishing my sensor to get the exact spot I need on the target.

  • @gregpruitt1647
    @gregpruitt1647 3 роки тому +1

    My throttle has the same slew button you had. I located the website with the upgraded button. As of now, this item is on backorder. Drats!

  • @gregpruitt1647
    @gregpruitt1647 3 роки тому

    Amazing sim rig you have there! WOW!

  • @EbonySeraphim
    @EbonySeraphim 2 роки тому +1

    Just got my slew upgrade and really appreciated this tutorial. I wanted to emphasize that the calibration step is absolutely necessary which seemed counter intuitive to me (hobby game dev who has substantial experience programming for joystick devices). Out of the box, the new slew stick would send max/min values at a fraction of its travel (imagine the deflection you had on the stock TDC) and calibrating it fixes that.
    This upgrade feels amazing and I regret not doing this a lot sooner. I didn't even need this for the A-10C. The way the TGP works for that module I was OK just tuning the axis in DCS. BlackShark Skhval slew however was a different story. Even with axis tuning it was always either too fast or too slow at the extremes, inaccurate. or too sensitive around the center. After install the upgrade the A-10C was even more buttery smooth, and Ka-50 was massively improved. I'm actually able to fly at low speeds and slew onto targets at the same time. This means multiple Vihkr launches are possible in the same pass, or accurately gunning at multiple ground targets that are somewhat spread out without using boresight aiming.

  • @DrMX5
    @DrMX5 4 роки тому

    Solid video dude. Thank you

  • @jaybeckman3749
    @jaybeckman3749 4 роки тому +1

    I'm LOL at your Cat! :) Nice Vid. Something I've wanted to do to mine as well but this makes it look like it's actually doable!

  • @Nanne118
    @Nanne118 4 роки тому +4

    Glad to see you like it so much, it really it a ton better than the default slew sensor and I really dont understand why TM decided to use such a crap component for this vital piece of control in the Warthog HOTAS. It is a shame that there were only so many force sensitive variants to go around for the DeltaSim Slew Mod, I have really been enjoying mine in these past months :)

  • @rogierkraan
    @rogierkraan 3 роки тому

    In the old days when i didnt have the hotas yet I used to connect an old ps3 controller to use for slewing. I remember those where some pretty good slewing times

  • @silentone11111111
    @silentone11111111 4 роки тому +1

    I had toyed with getting one of these. I hated that switch and was using the ministick on my vkb stick.. The hog throttles good except for this . This mods a lot cheaper than buying a new virpil throttle :) You have convinced me . Time to upgrade :)

  • @Nitiiii11
    @Nitiiii11 3 роки тому

    Thanks. Very helpful indeed. I finally replaced the little bugger.

  • @williamsternritter3214
    @williamsternritter3214 4 роки тому +2

    Yes, this is a must have upgrade for the Warthog. So much better, before the upgrade I barely used the … mouse … nipple … thing.

  • @keirfarnum6811
    @keirfarnum6811 4 роки тому

    Beautiful cockpit! Green with envy!

  • @quinnyrethus
    @quinnyrethus 4 роки тому

    Nice upgrade mate. I haven't checked in for awhile but the sim's coming along nicely. I have my CNC mill running now so I'll be cutting panels for the Huey to finish the upper and lower consoles. Decided against DCS BIOS now and I'll just go with Arduino Leonardo's with my custom sketch for configuration to allow for multi helicopter setup.

  • @Jolly0gd0show
    @Jolly0gd0show 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome! need to do this and Good video.

  • @GER-Thorgs
    @GER-Thorgs 4 роки тому

    Didn't know that you can map the Mav key to the left MFCD. :O And very good Video, I will save it as an tutorial for me in case I finally upgrade my Wartog Slew Sensor. Thank you very much.

  • @NeoMorphUK
    @NeoMorphUK 4 роки тому +1

    Forgot to say... I ended up preordering myself one of these so thanks for the tip. Got to wait until November though... must be popular.

  • @matk4731
    @matk4731 3 роки тому

    Must be good 2 month wait. Thanks for sharing 🙃🙃👍👍

  • @sschreck
    @sschreck Рік тому

    I followed your instructions step by step and now I have a real slew and not a friggin nipple! Thank you!

  • @rjet43
    @rjet43 4 роки тому

    you sir caused me to spend 3 weekends building an ejection seat and a home flight sim of the A-10 lol!!! mine only has the UFC, MFDs and the warthog throttle stick/rudder pedals that function but thats ok cause i fly with VR oculus rift s anyway but i love your sim man!!

  • @chrisoz4929
    @chrisoz4929 3 роки тому

    I struggled with this. Maybe I have fat fingers, but I couldn't seem to unclip the side I could reach. Terrified of breaking something, but I got it eventually. You made it look easy

  • @flybywire5866
    @flybywire5866 4 роки тому +1

    Quite interesting project.

  • @vittthevecc1390
    @vittthevecc1390 4 роки тому +17

    The only thing missing Is a phisical HUD

  • @303HOLYONE
    @303HOLYONE 2 роки тому

    Thanks for what you doing

  • @grennymaster
    @grennymaster 3 роки тому

    just installed mine, thanks for your vid
    an in the moment your cat called, i turned over to let mine in, wich wasnt there :) good audio man :)

  • @red5x5redhusker17
    @red5x5redhusker17 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this

  • @swiftplus175
    @swiftplus175 4 роки тому

    Great upgrade, great video ! If you want to make slew even smoother, you can increase dead zone and reduce Axis saturation (if you assigned it as axis in a first place), which kind of equals analog slew sensitivity. Slew is gonna be a bit slower (as you set it), but less jerky too. Can even try it with the bad old slew "nipple", before committing for an upgrade purchase. However, for me Windows own Controller calibration centers the nipple better, than Thrustmaster's calibration tool shown in the video to be honest. The latter always offsets the mini stick center a bit down for me.

  • @RainmanHST
    @RainmanHST 3 роки тому

    Great video like always. But I really loved the yelling at the Cat! Priceless!

    • @thewarthogproject
      @thewarthogproject  3 роки тому

      Haha glad you liked it mate. Unfortunately the cat is no longer with us, but this memory of how annoying he was will live on forever!

    • @RainmanHST
      @RainmanHST 3 роки тому

      @@thewarthogproject I know the feeling dude. I have my first and she is about a year old now. When she gets the zoomies going on it drives me insane. But... She is never going on the sim room that’s for sure. Lol

  • @peterott8053
    @peterott8053 4 роки тому +1

    halfway through your video I ordered one.

  • @harmer4245
    @harmer4245 Рік тому

    It took just over 2 weeks to get mine (Gold Coast - Queensland). Total was 52.99 GBP which ended up being AUS $97.60 on conversion. Well worth it.

  • @ryanchisholm1347
    @ryanchisholm1347 4 роки тому

    You sir. Are a fucking genius. I love your work and the a10. Ive always wanted to build a full cockpit. But I dknt have that kind of money or skill.

  • @matthewdowd4686
    @matthewdowd4686 4 роки тому +1

    U should post some action videos of you flying sorties! We’ve seen the gear let’s see it in a mission. Great, interesting content man! Very ingenious indeed. 🤘😎

  • @radsy5821
    @radsy5821 3 роки тому +1

    The main problem I have with the nipple is being able to click it without massively moving the TDC in the process. Hopefully this is much better, have ordered.

  • @112-DavidL
    @112-DavidL 4 роки тому +2

    11:58 LOL "Gently side that in" up in the top left *That's what she said XD

  • @YoAbzi
    @YoAbzi 4 роки тому +3

    Beautiful setup, I've noticed you've not uploaded for 3 months hope your ok..💚

  • @harpoon_bakery162
    @harpoon_bakery162 4 роки тому

    wow, what an upgrade. perfect. what should i use for slew for the A10 on my Virpil T50-CM2 Throttle? There are hat switches and then there is this one thing that is an Axis knob that feels like something on a PS-4 controller or something along those lines. It also can be pushed in. If you do recommend that, what would i use the "push-in" for?

  • @mersyndol
    @mersyndol 4 роки тому +1

    Nice Ty!

  • @GaryGraham66
    @GaryGraham66 4 роки тому

    SWeeeet.😎👍👍
    hmm or maybe sour 😢 Just showed the wife a few of your videos and then I PROBABLY made the mistake of showing her the plans etc, since I have a laser cutter I thought hmm. We also have a spare room...... I think mentioning all three in one conversation was the kicker.
    BOO HISS but I wants one!

  • @Schyz
    @Schyz 11 місяців тому

    I purchased this kit from Delta Sim Electronics and I have to say that the quality of the product I received is excellent, I believe they have changed the manufacturing process and now all those 3D-printed parts are high quality plastic, probably from an injection mould. This upgrade is a must.

  • @TeKieler72
    @TeKieler72 4 роки тому

    After your video I got the Slew upgrade as well. I am extremely happy with it.
    But one question: is it possible to invert the x-axis? That really would be great, as I use this ministick for straving up and down in Star Citizen as well.
    Thank you very much.
    BTW: absolutely outstanding project with your A10 cockpit. Fantastic!

  • @petteritaro7159
    @petteritaro7159 4 роки тому +1

    Man this is awesome...I wan't to play with this

  • @BenedictTanShanWen
    @BenedictTanShanWen 4 роки тому

    My initial reaction was that it's expensive for a rewired analog stick but seeing that he went through the trouble of building a custom PCB with a microcontroller, nice sinter printed parts and included shipping in the price it's really good value. Guess I better look into updating my Hog's firmware first.
    That force sensing option is really tempting too!

    • @thewarthogproject
      @thewarthogproject  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah i forgot to mention the force sensing option! I might pick one up when they are available!

    • @BenedictTanShanWen
      @BenedictTanShanWen 4 роки тому

      @@thewarthogproject I wound up getting one around late December and man it's a massive upgrade over the one that comes in the Hog. Cheers from Malaysia!

  • @andnor
    @andnor 4 роки тому +1

    11:04.
    Completely relatable...

  • @LordOfNihil
    @LordOfNihil 4 роки тому +1

    been wanting one of these for some time, but my ch stuff just refuses to die.

  • @Emperorvalse
    @Emperorvalse 4 роки тому +3

    First of all deeply impressed by your work.
    Second as an Aussie living out of the country I really love your humour and personality "That's what she said."
    Are you excited over the ED announcement regarding improvements to the A10C interface?

  • @NeoMorphUK
    @NeoMorphUK 4 роки тому

    Have to say after using this mini nipple mod for a while now (thanks for the good info WP) I got a brand new 2nd throttle as I’m going to try and mod the handles on my old throttle... and OH MY GOD... tried to use the the new old nipple stick and IT SUCKS compared to the mod.
    I messed up the calibration on the mod but figured it out quick enough (RTFM eh lol) and have had nothing but good experience with it since. I even managed to get a replacement pinky switch from the factory in China and that’s fixed too... but I know enough not to risk breaking my throttle by modding it... also having an “as new” one I won’t be unable to fly in the meantime... but I’m still transferring the mini stick mod.

  • @Munky332
    @Munky332 4 роки тому

    Does it retain the depress function? Generally as it sits now, I've basically stopped using the slew switch as a slew, and only use it as a depress typically for target lock, and moved its function over to the Mic hat.
    also, what do you think of the cougar MFDs? how do you think they would work in VR? I pretty much only fly in VR now, just picked up an HP Reverb and it's just amazing.

  • @hootsmangreen
    @hootsmangreen 3 роки тому

    Just waiting on mine arriving Thanks for the "How To". Did you also purchase Delta Sim's Pinky switch replacement ? I'm just wondering what can be different from the one we have in the throttle already.

  • @chanozoc
    @chanozoc 4 роки тому +3

    You talk to your cat like I talk to mine lol.

  • @orangelemon9786
    @orangelemon9786 2 роки тому

    Amazing product! Recommend! But it does not work with the harrier, and will only skew horizontally, and downwards, not upwards. Any clue why?

  • @f15sim
    @f15sim 4 роки тому +1

    The original slew control is a small force transducer. It outputs an x/y signal. It's the same one used in the F-15C. (I've got grip-envy over how easy it is to get into that throttle grip for repair. The real thing is a pain in the ass - the A-10 grip is nearly identical to the F-15C.) Also, be nice to the cat. :D

    • @thewarthogproject
      @thewarthogproject  4 роки тому +1

      Deltasim actually make a proper force transducer replacement as well- although its much more expensive.

  • @MutatedPizzaBoi
    @MutatedPizzaBoi 4 роки тому

    Is there a way to tighten up the dual throttles? Even when pinned and nocked together, they feel very loose and wiggle around.

  • @blihp
    @blihp 5 місяців тому

    thanks! just purchased one from deltasim - i hope you get a cut :)

  • @bdog7262
    @bdog7262 2 роки тому

    Happy holidays brother.
    Can I ask what your slew speed settings are? I’m trying to get the up close precision

  • @rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303
    @rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303 4 роки тому

    1:00 - Wait, so it's not just me? *Thank* you!

  • @gregoryashton
    @gregoryashton 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! I haven’t yet got my Thrustmaster HOTAS, would you recommend buying this additional sensor with my new HOTAS and installing it before use, or should I set it up first and then install the new sensor?

    • @zeeman9057
      @zeeman9057 3 роки тому +1

      If I were you I would first set it up and test it. Otherwise you spent time on switching the sensors only to find out that your HOTAS has issues.

  • @rachang222
    @rachang222 4 роки тому

    What timing! Mine is ‘out for delivery’ as I’m typing this. Long overdue

    • @thewarthogproject
      @thewarthogproject  4 роки тому +1

      Took a couple of months to get to me, only because the first was lost in the post. The seller was fantastic, thankfully he took my word for it and shipped a replacement out with the next run. About 2 weeks after that it arrived in Australia. He uses normal post, no express options available internationally due to cost.

  • @blave549
    @blave549 4 роки тому

    I haven't done this mod yet, and I'm not sure this will help with the TMW throttle hardware, but for self-tapping screws in general, I always turn them counterclockwise (or anti-clockwise, for youse European folks) until I feel a small "click", and then I screw 'er in, so to speak. That is in the interest of not stripping the threads of the hole. At any rate, THANKS for making this vid. This mod has been on my shopping list for a couple months.

    • @nonegone7170
      @nonegone7170 4 роки тому

      Ha, why would it be anti-clockwise in Europe?
      Everyone speaks americanized english anyways, except for the tea drinkers ofcourse.

    • @iamrocketray
      @iamrocketray 2 роки тому

      @@nonegone7170 You mean us Brit's? yes we have fought Americanization for a generation, but for anyone 20 or under it's too late lol.