Thrustmaster Warthog A10C - The best H.O.T.A.S. out there?
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2015
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How can you review this without playing DCS A-10C? That stick was made for that game! C'mon!
The Stowaway. You are absolutely right. literally. It was made for that game.
Simple reason. The A-10C in DCS is one of the most complex modules from DCS due to its computer and all of those switches. Yes this flight stick will be a huge help since those switches and buttons SHOULD work as they would on a A-10, but I highly doubt Luke will spend the time over the course of days (or weeks if he's slow) learning how to fly the A-10 for this review. However I am agreement with you, I do think they should've tested the game the Joystick was made for, even at the cost of time.
For sure this module is complex, but not difficult. At least for me it wasn't.
I managed to learn 80-90% of the checklists in a single rainy saturday ... Maybe I'm an "alien" :D
I'm jealous of you man.. I wish I could learn the A-10C as fast as you. But people do learn at different paces and I'm pretty sure it would've been a new experience for Luke since I don't think he's ever played a DCS module in like... ever
A Tank Dressing Kitty do you need someone to teach you?
Your complaints about the trigger are void, it's a 2-stage trigger and the 1st stage activates with very little trigger push.
Thanks, am looking to get one of these and it's cool to know a light press can arm weapons.
@@Dagoth_Ur_1 In the A10C the 1st stage stabilizes the plane
@@Dagoth_Ur_1 Yea. the primary trigger is a 2 stage. at around 40-50% depress you get trigger 1 and a full depress activates both buttons.
Also there is no twist access on this stick.
2 stage trigger for either firing the laser for LGBs or stabilizing the plane. There's a reason it has it LTT. Using a flight sim stick for an arcade game just doesn't work out.
2 stage because the A-10 has stabilization for when you use guns. That first stage is what activates the stabilization normally
The master of thrust
***** Vegeta
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***** Joy stick...
Yeah, I cannot take that name seriously.
The guy who named the company is genius
>Reviews replica flight-stick
>Tests it in Elite: Dangerous
Jesper And from what I can tell, shoots a civilian near a station in a Sidewinder.
Have you seen the detailed cockpits of star citizen ships? They have warthog style joysticks in their ships.
Honestly though who cares what they use it for, space sims are just as deserving of warthog greatness.
@@ailfawka6278 playing space sims without stick twist... argh
@@Drogenopa1 my left stick has twist, but I have a warthog on the right.
@@Drogenopa1 If you get a warthog you probably have rudder pedals too, no need for twist.
Why didnt you play a flight sim like DCS in this video?
Edward Novick I'm guessing because 1. He has to buy it 2. He doesn't know how to even start the plane.
Because that takes a degree to play it.
Hendlton DCS World is free, as well as the TF-51 and Su-25
Jeremy Bullphrog Well it's called the Warthog A10C so not flying the A10C would be just wrong and as far as I know, the A10C isn't free.
Hendlton If you can get a a-10c hotas, you can probably afford to get an a-10c in DCS
Tests it in Elite: dangerous
Dcs: am I a joke to you?
Not everyone has the time to put into learning a sim. He's a gamer first.
@@Killswitch1411 flying the low fidelity su 25t isnt that hard, just play the training mode
Why do you review a device designed specifically for flight simulators, DCS in particular, and then completely avoid any testing on one, especially considering you can get dcs:world for free with 2 planes? It's like reviewing a baseball bat by playing cricket.
Probably because even the free/easymode planes in DCS are way way way out of anyone at LTT's depth. They would probably have been flamed more for trying to cover it than by not doing it. And I actually think that was a perfectly good decision - there are many other reviews of this product in the more hardcore sim community.
@@Mythricia1988 sure, DCS is tricky for tech reviewers and journos who can't put time into it, but flying in a straight line with a roll or a turn at some point wouldn't exactly require a US Navy pilot to pull it off
Because he's not a flight simmer. He's a gamer.
It's like getting a baseball bat and not playing cricket? You serious?
@@Draganox25 I thought that was a pretty good analogy
Everything you guys review is out of my reach , both in availability and affordability XD
***** i am not sure
Cause I am not?
Most random conversation ever xD
WistfulBreeze actually no. I know that guy. xD
after watching this video my wallet said "fuck you" to me.
"In combination with VR... I hope someone will feed me..." pure class (and most definitely seconded) :D
I bought the thrustmaster tpr rudders. They work extremely well, super heavy duty and pairs perfectly with my a10 flight system
man this thing is awesome, added to my bucket list...
Thanks for reviewing it.
7 years later with all the price hikes/inflation Thrustmaster is still selling these (the updated version) for $550.
Yeah you can get a Winwing Orion 2 for 400$ which is just so much better
@@FPSOlaf not with a throttle.
@@Toutvids Yes with a throttle. You can see it on their website for 400$
@@FPSOlaf 400 + 100€ tax + 75€ shipping
@@vondalo5504 I got mine for about 600, orion 2 f16..
it's too bad you didn't test this with the software it was made in mind for. DCS World: A-10C
Im sorry mate but i cant like the comments because the number 69
I like how it doesn't look cheap and is made with quality, although I think I would prefer the thrusters to move quicker. As a side note, I'm glad LMG is reviewing H.O.T.A.S, especially now that Elite Dangerous has been released on steam. Hoping to see some more of this.
I love your intro guys I can just sit here and replaying that awesome tune :D
This stick, the MFG pedals, a sturdy steel base to mount it all on, and a VR setup in Elite Dangerous was an absolutely phenomenal gaming experience. I had to make myself stop because it was eating up all my time.
Your review was pretty accurate, I was explaining it to a friend and it was almost word for word. This stick is awesome, previously running an x52 pro which was pretty damn good the Warthog blows it away. In VR I didn’t struggle to feel my way around the flip and toggle switches. I setup for pulling out the throttle to engage afterburner on the F-14 in DCS. It’s a little awkward and not native to the F-14 but something that gives dynamic to the gameplay. You’re absolutely right about the trigger, launching missiles is oddly satisfying compared to other Hotas. I’ve spent some time in military grade sim cockpits, short of having a pressure resistance stick this is about as close as you’re gunna get for your home. I would say it’s worth the money.
You can find much better options out there than just the Warthog now. Back when this review was released perhaps the Warthog is "as close as you're gonna get" as you called it, but nowadays you have companies VKB, Virpil or Winwing that make much better products with better technology.
Mind you, the Warthog is still a good piece of kit, but now they're nowhere close to the top when it comes to HOTAS, especially for the current price.
Targeting merchant ships at a neutral station? I thought you guys were better than that!
Awesome work guys keep it up!
I have this HOTAS and LOVE IT! The programming is a bit of a hassle but like you mentioned, its well worth the work in the end.
So you played Star Citizen and Elite with a Warthog? You might as well play hockey with a golf club!
Hojam is the way to go. Best of both worlds
HUUURRRR i play complex flightsims so i must be better than you.
fuck off please. if people want to play a game with good hardware, fucking let them.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'd have plenty of fun being better than simple Simon while flying my Origin 300i with a TM Warthog in Star Citizen but it would have been nice to see more than the mere mention of a flight sim in the review of a product purpose built for flight sims since people who are interested in the device are highly likely to want to know how it performs in its' natural habitat.
Jimmy Blonde I agree with that. When I see a Warthog HOTAS review, I expect to see some DCS on those screens. A heavy, deliberate trigger makes a lot more sense when you're only pulling it for a half-second in a three-hour play session. The thing's target audience, though, is already well aware of its existence and quality. They either have one, are saving up for one, or decided long ago that it wasn't worth it for them. I don't expect a lot of gamers to buy kit like this for Battlefield or ARMA.
They're definitely aware of its' reputation, maybe not so conversant with its' full functionality and the real advantages of owning one. I'd like to see another video exploring that.
I love the triple monitor setup
Yeah, apart from that VR has no multitasking ability or monitor real estate space. VR also has quite the way to go until it's 4K.
***** What he said.
***** And what about people who get motion sickness from wearing them? Or people who just don't want to wear headgear to use a computer? Pretty sure I'm not clueless, you're just being close-minded.
I see you everywhere. .-.
***** me?
I have had this stick with throttle for more than 2 years now. Worth every single cent. Especially with DCS' A-10
Looking to buy as I am hanging for Star Wars Squadrons.
Thank you so much for your informative review.
For that just buy a tflight Hotas x , this thing is way overkill for star wars
Would love for you to do an updated video on this topic with Virpil or VKB
2:03 Playing a bit of Star Citizen race are we?
I've had mine since it's inception and love the metal/quality feel of the stick in particular. A former F-18 pilot, I find the throttle to stiff in comparison the the '18's in any but it's lowest friction setting. I like the stick but would like the adapter for a true fighter, between the knees feeling. There is one available as I understand it.
Great job. I was looking for just this type of set up. Salute! /**
I wonder if you guys are going to review the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS. It's going to cost around 130 USD and it's one of the very few mid-range HOTAS systems out there. Wondering if we should stick to the 60 dollar range with stuff like the T-Flight HOTAS X. Will putting down twice the money be worth it?
When is it coming out and is it expected to be able to switch for left handed use as well? I was looking at the T16000M but if this is coming out, I might just have to wait a little longer. I'm so excited for Star Citizen!!!
Jesse Reyes It is coming out early September, the 2nd according to some websites. It is essentially, from what I've read and seen, a updated T16000M plus a new throttle. Looking forward to it, too!
Thank you for getting my eyes on this. Instead of two T.16000M's this may be more suitable due to all the directional inputs on the throttle.
I really hope they do a review on the T 16000M hotas. My research is incomplete without seeing that hotas.
Love mine. Doesn't feel like a toy.
I’m here because of Star Wars: Squadrons and he’s wearing a Star Wars shirt lol
Same, this and battlefield lol
Yes
@@deadislander0167 battlefield has aweful flight mechanics to waste a flight stick on it
I wish they weren’t so goddam expensive
@creatine izbeast I posted this comment before the game was even released. I never said I like it lmao
Very informative, I'm truly debating about purchasing a thrustmaster
I bought this thing, it’s badass and super cool to have the switches on the throttle control your plane/ships engines like it was real.
you don't want fast response in flight sims or even space sims, you want to learn your controls and get reliable response, flight tactics are all about being able to do the same thing over and over, twitch responses are rarely consistent, practiced responses are much more reliable.
I own it and I use it for my flying in Prepar3D, love it! Feels solid, had a Thrustmaster Hotas Cougar before and the Warthog is a drewm to fly with, so solid and precise.
Is there a 'Profile' available for it? I have it too.
i dont normally like, liking videos but today i really want to show support for an item they actually and genuinely enjoyed. more please.
I agree with "The Stowaway" and I absolutely love DCS World (not steam edition but rather Open Beta). I use this HOTAS for every jet and module I own in DCS. It's such a beast and once I pair it with the proper rudder pedals I will be so happy. I'm holding off on setting up a profile for ED just yet because omg the amount of bindings lol. It's the beastiest beast of a HOTAS I've ever used! (I'm also a disabled prior USAF Special Operations veteran so this HOTAS was already on my mind when I was looking for one to purchase for myself !! :) )
'for diplomatic reasons'... had a good laugh at that
Best stick I've ever owned, I couldn't fly with anything else.
[AKA] Kraut! Is it force feedback?
Oh yeah? How about now? virpil-controls.eu/
Yh I use mine in a 737 max dat y it such a successful plane
4 years later, bet you don't say that now lol
@@Dupawpaski I'd like virpil if they weren't overpriced and almost never in stock.
Looks awesome!!
Decided on the CH HOTAS instead though I must admit I liked the idea of the quality of the Warthog. CH Manager software (though ancient looking) is rock solid.
logitech should make one. they always seem to balance price and build quality pretty darn well
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Menwulf That list *is* from Vessel. That's the point.
WayZHC Oops sorry should learn to read :D
Fuck vessel. In one years time I wanna see how much you use it when you have to pay to watch reviews of shit that you will probably never get (let's be real here). I can watch it here 3 days later and save shit loads of money.
for the trigger,
I take some clear tape and put it over the trigger, place my finger on the trigger, press halfway and them wrap the tape around the back.
now it will be much shorter and quicker.
simple tip for anyone who likes a short travel trigger.
love the videos BTW!
I love seeing you play with a thrustmaster in a cockpit
Why the F didn't you try out DCS World A10C?!?!!?!?! i mean look at it, all the buttons on the stick and throttle works there!
my guess it would have taken them 3 hours to learn how to start/takeoff
@@inscrutablewut Only takes a few minutes. The game literally has an easy start button for lazy people. But I don't come to Linus for quality reviews. They are shills for whichever sponsor is paying that day.
tbh thats what it is designed for lol
@@inscrutablewut the A-10 is complex when you actually intend to fly it properly and thoroughly, when it comes to JUST flying, the SAS pretty much balances out even an untrimmed bird
Come on! Play DCS IT'S FREE. Buy the A-10C
p cOMMUNISTCONDOR free-to-play*
But the A 10 put 100 hours on learning how to fly and boom you got a video 😂😂
He could also just fly the SU25T or the TF51D because those are free as well in game
Djargen the 33 is free not the 27
I have always been a major proponent of the ergonomic corner desk, when I was young I always wanted a battle station or cockpit, so I set up a corner desk inside of a large utility closet and the sound was great inside there, I just got tired of using my closet space for a desk. This was long before any of us had anything like battles stations, or cockpits in our homes. A corner desk gives you a more ergonomic pocket that you can customize, put a large curved monitor in the corner, using the vesa mounting option at eye level, it's a good foundation for a corner cockpit. Plus you can actually use it as a desk. Then you can use a HOTAS on top, or whatever you like and it will feel better.
I love the design so much, the Throttle being a little slow even with low friction is a little of a turn off as I definitely cut throttle for a bunch of maneuvers and could see myself forcing it. That said having dual engine control is amazing and the amount of potential keybinds is exactly what i'm after. Overall think I will aim to save for this and live with the throttle being relatively sluggish.
He didn't got it. It is a modern jet fighet aircraft controls replica. Not intended for spaceship simulators.
Fábio he stated this... Several times.. He said it wasn't really meant for hair trigger games and it was more for simulation and "real feeling" stuff. That being said, there's nothing wrong with using it for Star Citizen and ED. I'm an avid FSX, P3D, and DCS enthusiast and I can still say that when SC comes out, this will definitely be my HOTAS of choice.
the a-10 isn't exactly modern
paulmaartin Well it's systems are pretty modern.
The HOTAS is from an A-10C with Suite 3, which is from 2005. So it is really young for an aircraft...
Fábio Fabio seems pretty vacant.
what desk is that?
Obutto revolution. I got one myself! they are not cheap 98kg of steel!
great review. i can confirm everything you've said about it
Luke from the past Flight Sim 2020 Loves this.
jeebus. only four minutes...480P hasn't even uploaded yet. LOL.
Try playing war thunder in 4k with that thing... never mind, you might never leave your apartment.
All you need now is TrackIR!
Xeffx I prefer a Oculus Rift or Vive, but you would need to dump the 4k then. But i think it would be much more immersive.
My dream. :D
Tobias L. TrackIr is lighter and you wont ruin your eyes as much.
Shit Thunder is a terrible use of this HOTAS.
This review convinced me to buy one from Amazon!! Thank you!
The Thrustmaster Warthog A10C looks great and i like the real feeling!
Which Flightsimulation are best at this moment guys?
This HOTAS was models after the A-10 Warthog, so for a flight sim, I would suggest the DCS A-10C
DCS, Prepar3D, X-Plane
IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad, and the extension Battle of Moscow. Also known as IL-2 BOS and IL-2 BOM are now 64bit and are great. You must also get a trackIR5 for head tracking in the cockpit.
Agreed other than I'd say skip the TrackIR - I used mine exactly 3 times and the effect it added was very marginal. While I know the cost is much higher if you want more immersion than monitor(s) VR is the way to go. Warthog + VR + Elite Dangerous = you are flying in space.
If you are serious about flight sims trackir is invaluable, anyone into combat flight simulations will tell you the same. If you didn't use it more than 3 times I honestly don't think you even gave it a fair chance. While VR is cool and all the readability of gagues etc in sims like DCS still isn't good enough due to the fairly low display resolutions of the current VR headsets, untill that improves TrackIR is still the way to go.
Normal plane, build it and fit a gun. Warthog, Build big ass gun and fit plane around it!!
Thus the HUGE turbofans in the back. Counterweights!
i have the cougar set up only as a joystick and love the controls for bigger ships.
I'm a Warthog User since the beginning of this HOTAS. It still work perfect and I love the feel of metal with this system.
Short question. Which flight seat config did you use for this video? Is the seat from obutto?
You forgot one important thing. You need to buy rudder pedals, as it doesn't have twist. I know many Elite Dangerous players who have to use a switch for Yaw which is kinda garbage.
Yaw in ED is not exactly the most important thing, especially on heavier ships. And if you really cant live with yaw on HAT switch, then go buy pedals, if you have money for Warthog, you definitely can afford pedals too.
Meanwhile the Warthog stick without yaw axis is much more precise than any yawing stick ever will be simply because you cant input wrong movement by operating 3 axies with one hand.
Ok you've made a few points.
First yes yaw does matter and I fly all ships of all mass categories. It especially matters in interdictions.
Second my opening point is still sailiant as all other sticks even half the warthogs price are twist. People assume the warthog is also twist. I definatly did until one of my buddies mentioned it didn't.
The T.16000m has the exact same sensor and twist as the warthog so I'd like to see a comparison to see, if your theory is correct.
I do agree about the if you buy a warthog you should afford petals but again Luke should have mentioned this. It's a legit discussion to have and he shortchanged the audience.
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yes its a legit problem with the review im with you on that one.
as for the theory, it is physically impossible for human to not to input movement on X and Y axis on a stick when manipulating Z twist axis. You can get used to it, you can mitigate it but the physical fact is that Z axis will always introduce "noise" movement on main two axies.
The reason that Hog doesnt have the Y axis is most probably exactly that reasoning and the fact its targeted at enthusiast buyers that are expected to have rudder pedals.
And i too shared the "why the hell it doesnt have twist" thinking for a while, but more info i looked up on the Hog more i slotted into "it actually makes sense" mentality ... so today i ordered mine after 4 months of "should i, should i not" ... xD
and i do not have pedals yet btw, those are on my buylist for next month (probably TM or Saitek cheap ones before i commit to something more expensive like MFG Crosswind or Slaw Device which are both on order pay up front handcrafted builds :) )
Asghaad I'm by no means suggesting it should have twist, though a premium stick from TM should exist with twist and the new FCS system isn't quite that. Also the warthog is the official A-10 stick, and the A-10 doesn't twist.
I was simply saying a test between the T.16000 and the WH would be interesting to see how much effect there is.
For now I'm buying the new FCS stick.
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well i was also thinking about buying the T.16000M FCS instead but i decided that if im going to spend money on HOTAS i will go all the way and buy Warthog, get used to it for a month then buy pedals for it :)
and considering that im going to plug it in my 3000+ EUR computer rig (including monitor and other peripherals ) i think holding back to buy mid-low range HOTAS wouldnt be my style xD
yeah i know im crazy when it comes to my beloved PC xD
To review this and not show it with DCS A10c is a waste of time!
And the trigger is so heavy and has such a long travel distance because it is two position, no mention of that here!!! In the A10c, the first position steadies the aircraft on target and the second position fires the cannon. As for the included software, I've never used it. Connect this to your computer, start up DCS A10c and all buttons are automatically assigned to exactly what they have to do
So, basically, this HOTAS and Throttle was built for DCS. Yes you can use it for other games, but unless you have DCS, its wasted on everything else.
He literally talked out of his ass when he said "the software is a nightmare when binding buttons". It was built for DCS you fkn dweeb. I have literally seen this hotas in action from a friend of mine, plugged it right it, loaded up free flight in the a-10, everything functioned.
@@Papagai990 that's what I am saying. I have literally used this HOTAS myself in DCS and it works straight out of the box!
This is one of the best videos you've done Luke.
Derek Fletcher That's because Linus was out of town... Ohhhh burn..
lol. Poor Linus
The intro is frickin amazing xD
550 Canadian dollars, so that's like 10 quid?
C'mon, Canadian dollars aren't THAT bad. It's about $430 US.
lol
can't get more american than an A-10 warthog
***** the plane so bad they named an even worse car after it!
There's always that some guy that hates America... Oh youtube, you never change.
wobbly868 It's mediocre at best. The 109s and 190s in DCS are far superior to the P51s.
wobbly868 Woooo? Really? Did you hear that from Discovery? The only real qualities it had were its range and high maximum speeds. The rest of success was formed by the tactics where the P51 attacked germans from above, who in their turn had to deal with the bombers. In case of Bf109 - they had additional cannons on the wings which restricted their speed and maneuverability. In a straight combat fighter vs fighter it's not so good.
Now if we talk La-7... There was a scenario when two P51 attacked two La-7 by surprise mistakening them for FW190. The first La-7 was taken down easily, but the second one shot down both P51's.
Now if we talk British Hawker Tempests... Well it's good you guys didn't have to fight those :p
i think the de havilland mosquito is the best ww2 plane
Woah never been this early to a Linus video. 1 minute after upload
I like how he was moving the joystick while moving the trim switch everywhere :)
My brother has this and your video doesn't represent the quality of it. Somehow it just does not look as high quality as it actually is. You should also have included some clicking sounds to show how stiff everything is.
"Somehow it just does not look as high quality as it actually is."? What the hell did you want him to show?
He said it's as authentic as you'll get, approved by the U.S. Air Force what more do you want?
Yes it leave us all wondering now what we didn't see that could possibly make this even better. Would be unfortunate to watch linustechtips videos with two grains of salt instead of just one :P If we see more such comments I mean.
He talked about the high quality throughout the whole video ;P
K3V0M I do know what you mean. In the flesh the thing does look better than in the video, you can see that its painted metal whereas the video seems to add a plasticky effect. Definitely one to look at for real.
"Feels real"
If you say that about elite dangerous, wait until you learn about dcs
What is that
got this along with an oculus rift, you forget where you live after mins. lovely piece of machinery. i modified mind so i can rest my hand on the actual stick and hockey tape for grip
6 years and still one of the best
Already seen this.
Vessel Master Race!
i think vessel sucks.
NO
FeuerToifel What a shame.
Mudbill i have that 1 year free vessel thing, but i just can't be bothered to go there. i also don't like the UI
I watched this in 1080p and higher, what kind of master race are you on?
"It is probably a good idea not to have hair triggers all over the place for diplomatic reasons." hahaha
A few players I know use this in Elite Dangerous. I play it in VR (which is simply amazing) and I have the Thrustmaster T16000m flight stick, but for throttle and other flight controls, I went with a razer tartarus chroma. has all the buttons I need to play Elite in VR with everything reachable without moving the hand off the rest.
The software does provide a lot of control, though. Keys can be set to toggle between different key presses and and can change their purpose based on a long button press or quick button press. It comes with its own simple programing language for key control.
Basically, it's an advanced system that requires a good deal of learning to use, but it gives the user an insane amount of control regarding how the buttons work.
i like milk
I got this kit when it was on sale at Micro Center for $300 so I could play some Elite: Dangerous. It is everything Luke said it is. You'll never get me to go back to my old Microsoft Sidewinder joystick after using this HOTAS kit. Recommended.
It’s my favourite fighter joystick right now and I would love to have it for my futur ultimate fighter jet set up
You can also extend the stick with mods ,making it much taller and therefore more accurate and easier to use.
looks really nice.
LIKE!
Love my warthog (and crossfires). Nothing else compares.
Got one my self. and its a joy
Love The Shirt!
I got this stick only from Microcenter open box for $145. It is absolutely bad ass. I was originally gonna go with a CH Fighter stick and only got this to resale, but this thing feels so good I had to keep it.
It is a little tough to move, actually tough isn't the right word. It is smooth and 'tight', but it doesn't really fatigue me. I've only played Elite with it so far though.
For those of you watching now, if you are eyeing the DCS F-16C, it should be noted the stick on the A-10C for which this was made was actually retrofitted from the 16 when the 10 was upgraded to the C model- some buttons do different things, but they are the same buttons, in the same stick. So, this is a replica of the 16C stick (minus the slight forward tilt, and with more movement) as well.
Next vid on linustechtips: mouse pad buyers guide :)
Watching it on vessel now
i found this pretty good joy stick, its the st290 pro from saitek. its pretty old, but has that arcade feel, along with that real feel that the A10C has. its old, i dont even know if they still make them anymore. but it works!
I was considering this and the Saitek X56, the general feel and build quality and weight of this makes me lean towards the Thrustmaster despite the expense, I play a lot of Arma 3 and not so many arcade style games so the realistic feel is more important to me than hair trigger and fast action.
Got this setup plus the T-Rudder pedals for yaw and it dose indeed rock for sims...I still use an old Logitech 3D Pro for War Thunder though.
I actually considered this HOTAS before Elite released (despite its price) but it had no twist rudder so I eventually went with Saitek and I'm happy. If I had an actual cockpit (as in more relaxed horizontal position) it'd be viable I guess with rudder pedals and everything, but I only have chair with HOTAS stands attached to arms and couldn't stand having my feet on the pedals all the time.
nice review
Thrustmaster just needs to make some good rudder pedals too. Otherwise your best rudder option is Saitek, and then you're looking at two different config profile apps. I am going to have to pick this up when I get back into the serious flight sims. Thanks for the detailed review.
That's a nice setup
Let the force be with you \m/
That smirk at the end of the intro
I actually had a chance to use this for a week while I was in Florida, and good god it was awesome. It made me want to actually get a joystick for warthunder
Crazy, after 7yr I just bought one new for DCS. I am looking to set it up for star citizen soon. Just funny that now it almost plug and play and still a great a relevant joystick.
Yes im late to the party but i just got one - the quality is truly top notch! I used to have a Saitex X52 Pro but never like the stick's limp tension. The Warthog stick has great tension, tight, weighted and robust. The price has went up to $500 due to demand exceeding supply but its totally worth it. I no longer have "game peripherals" on my desk, i have military grade aviation components
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It's not worth it no, go with a vkb and virpil for better sensors
Thanks for this review i was wondering how the hell they justified the price tag OMG no way would i spend that without a review or feeling it in person. What about racing wheels i am in the market for one of those as well!!!