Its a result of the Penguin infestation that happened in Gotham back in the 60s. It was a real tragedy when you think about it. All those baby penguins thrown down the toilet after they started growing up... No wonder they acepted Oswald as one of their own. And, eventually, as their king. Such a beatiful story. 😢
@@captainsavy5150 lol you gotta lay off the word literally. Also what the hell are you doing reading comments before the video has ended? Do you have ADD?
And the fact he's saying it while wearing glasses... and then producer guy emphatically doubles down on how ugly people are if they wear glasses. Just subtle enough to make you feel clever for catching it.^^
@tenlegdragon All Superman has to do is put glasses on and he changes from buff god-alien superhero to boring nerdy loser journalist dork Clark Kent. The glasses rule definitely applies to men too.
I wish he covered the part where Batman just stood over the edge of a building watching the Ice Princess fall only to reveal moments later that he had a glider the whole time. lol
@@StevieStitches How's your mom and dad? Damn....I'm sorry. I mean...How's Jason Todd? Ok..damn..uhhhh....you suck at saving ppl you care about!!! ***Leaves Chat***
@@shiranuiaensland1442 Actually it's a spear gun, Ratbreath. I tried to save her after the kidnapping. It was set up to look like I did it... to frame me.
"Wait so Batman always has to destroy his mask to get it off?" "Well because the mask is so tight there's no other way to remove it!" "Oh ripping off a tight mask is tight!"
That's one of the gripes I have with Batman Returns, otherwise my favorite Batman movie. They could've easily just cut to Catwoman as he starts taking off the cowl and then the next scene he's without it...that way not only did he not have to unappealingly rip off the cowl but also not be without the dark eye makeup while he's still wearing the cowl. I mean if we don't get to fully see how he suits up why show him unmask either. it's cooler that way.
@@SeraphsWitness I just watched Batman Begins again and it was very funny to hear him explain why he wouldn’t execute the murderer, then see him immediately kill a bunch of people by setting their home on fire.
@@RedheadDevito Yea that whole thing was idiotic. I have no problem with him killing bad guys... that's why Punisher is so awesome. What I hate is the silly declaration of moral superiority, and THEN the subsequent hypocrisy. And the stupid blurring of the lines by saying, "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." Okay bud, whatever. lol
It's only easy if you know WHICH house (out of millions) to look at for mirrors...Otherwise, it's a shot-in-the-dark....if you'll excuse the expression.
I was 9 and when she stabbed her stuffed animals and the stuffing flew all over the place I freaked out way worse than I did at the actual human violence
@@KurenaiNanashi Yep she broke it out recently and found she still has the moves. She said she would never put on that catsuit again though, even for her husband.
Horrible movie. I always say it’s just Batman again, but with Burton let completely off his leash this time. Never go full Burton. (Unless it’s just a ground-up Burton creation, which Batman isn’t.)
I remember a couple of scene in one of the Tim Burton Batmans where Bruce Wayne is somewhere reading something and he's wearing glasses. Wouldn't be hilarious if people just saw him and said "who are you?! what did you do with Bruce Wayne!"
I kind of like the supernatural elements Tim Burton added to his Batman movies. If anyone didn't notice, Bruce Wayne sleeps like a bat in the 1989 Batman movie and this is the same one. He is just expanding on his own lore in Batman Returns.
Burton went off the rails in this one, making it too much of a fantasy. Batman '89 had some over-the-top moments, but was far more grounded and suspension-of-disbelief sustaining.
@@dreamlandnightmare Agreed, Batman '89 was the better movie, a bit to much Burtoning in the sequel, but, Keaton is my generations Batman so he and the movies are the best Batman movies
"You know that McDonald's have to make some Happy Meal toys out of this right?" I got a feeling that this was actually said in several Warner Brothers meetings. 😂🤣
I just recently learned that Max Schreck was the name of the actor who played Nosferatu. So Batman Returns' Max Schreck's power plant was actually a vampire power plant !
Why do I feel so certain the nose biting wasn’t in the script, and wasn’t Burton’s idea? Danny probably said, “I’m gonna bite a guy in the face in this movie so have the fake blood on stand-by. You don’t like it? Good luck finding another penguin!”
I always loved the scene as just before he dies and he raises out of the water with the blood nose, the timing of everything and the darkness was perfect.
@@KotoKiminama "Oh yeah, it starts with some random stuff that suposedly happened some thousend years ago in Egypt" "Uhh then we should get some experts on Egyptian history, to make sure the story aligns with historical characters." "About that, why don't we just put together a story with people that actually existed, but in a span of 500 years?" "Why woiuld we do that?" "It's cheaper." "Why didn't you say so in the first place!"
@Robert ""Uhh then we should get some experts on Egyptian history, to make sure the story aligns with historical characters."" Alternate scripting: "Yeah yeah yeah! 15 minutes should be enough! I think the History Channel has people who know about this stuff."
"So after Imhotep killed the pharaoh the priests curse him. By turning him into a super powerful person. And then the priests' descendants have to watch over him for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. They can never leave, they have to watch that spot in the desert." "So who was cursed exactly? Imhotep or the priests' families?"
Only if they mention people freaking out about the prospect of remaking the 1999 Brendan Fraser The Mummy while ignoring that it was a remake of the 1932 The Mummy starring Boris Karloff.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 They may own the channel but you don't get a metric ton of shit clogging up your subscription feed or an absurd amount of notifications from whatever low quality, clickbait drivel SR puts out every 20 minutes
“And then within the span of a minute, Penguin gropes a random stranger and tells Catwoman that she’s the p*$$y he’s looking for” “This… is a kids movie?” “Oh whoops!” “Whoopsie!”
As someone who favored this film as a kid, despite how dark and messed up it was, I actually thought That The Penguin living in the Sewers was his actual origin story. So I was super shocked to learn that in other forms of media, he's more Kingpin than Penguin Monster.
yeah... with the partial exception of Two Face, no villain in Burton/Schumacher movies has the actual origin story and when it comes to The Penguin it's literally an in name only adaptation
0:44 That's the background story of all the characters, the real Ryan just happened to save all the children in a burning orphanage (by doing a backflip and snapping the arsonists neck of course) and all of them grew up to be extremely Ryan-like
Hope this comment is pinned. First I've seen of it's kind. Truly deserving of many thumbs. Edit: read through all the top level comments and most of the replies. This was the only one of its kind.
When the cats had licked Selina back to life, she had just eight lives left because her being tossed out of Schreck‘s window was counted by her as minus one.
I love the line about Batman being in the movie. It really points out something comic book movies never seem to learn. Multiple villians in the same movie drags out the story building to such a degree that the "main hero" is barely in the last half of the movie. Now Batman Returns was a pretty good movie. But still having 3 or more main villains in the movie just to cram as many as possible always hurts the over all movie imo. You tend to not really care about any of them, and they all feel kind of weak as they just do stuff to make the plot happen. I always think of Spiderman 3 when this issue comes up. That movie tried to do Sandman, Hobgoblin and Venom all in one movie....
@@Etticos. trust. I've been suggesting it for ages. I've got a lil document I copy and paste with suggestions 🤣 I really would love to see Snatch and the evil dead trilogy done.
Omg I love this movie so much. I watched it over and over as a kid and I have had a lifelong love of penguins. I have a penguin tattoo, work with penguins, all my family knows a penguin related gift is my jam. 32 and never stopped loving penguins because of this movie. Thank you Batman Returns
So then you're well aware that penguins inherently know how to conduct a funeral procession... if only Ryan knew this very basic fact and didn't question it so foolishly 😅
My absolute favorite, lives rent free in my mind for 30 years, detail is the way the actor playing Max Schreck's son is just doing a low rent Christopher Walken impression.
You left out that the scene where Catwoman sticks the Penguin's pet bird in her mouth to threaten him, Michelle actually stuck the bird in her mouth, no CGI or trick photography. Bird in mouth. I couldn't believe it. Also, this movie was one of my favorites as a child, and its still one of my guilty pleasures.
Who's idea was that women with glasses are hideous? Why was that popular in Hollywood movies? Are those people ever seen women with glasses? They are hot.
@@ExtremeMadnessX bc it's a lot more profitable to get people to buy contacts, which need to be constantly replaced, rather than glasses, which only need to be replaced if they get damaged or one's prescription changes. When glasses are portrayed as unflattering, it gets more people to use contacts, so this is a very common trope bc the glasses industry worked their asses off to ensure that society views glasses as unattractive
@@ExtremeMadnessX I think it's because of the style of women's glasses back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. Making lenses was expensive, so they made the lenses small and the frames thick - often "decorated", which was supposed to make them more attractive, but actually made them look worse. Check out pictures of women wearing glasses from 60+ years ago. Also, poor eyesight is associated with age, so old women were more likely to wear glasses.
"Batman Returns?! Did Batman go somewhere?" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I love this 90s classic and Pitch Meetings is hilarious! Surprised Ryan didn't say, "Catwoman's suit is TIGHT!" 😁❤️
I know this would be going against the formula, but I can't help but imagine this pitch taking a cue from real life and showing the producer pitching this sequel to Tim Burton to try to sway his original reluctance to do it. "I just don't feel comfortable doing sequels, especially to a movie that had so much studio control like the first one." "Oh well, how about we give you the go ahead to make it more Burtony?" "Okay, uh... could I make the Penguin into some kind of deformed penguin-man?" "Absolutely." "Can I put Catwoman in a costume that's all stitched up an bursting at the seams?" "I don't think she ever had a costume like that in the comics." "She didn't." "Go ahead!" "Oh, and the Penguin has an army of killer clowns." "Wow wow wow. ....Clowns."
The Batman Returns novelization explained that the penguins were from the old Arctic World, a leftover pavilion exhibition from a Gotham World's Fair at the old Gotham Zoo. Baby Oswald was found there, presumably by the owner of the Red Triangle Circus, and taken to the Charity Home for Unusual Cases orphanage, as seen in The World of Stainboy episode "The Origin of Stainboy" (2001) episode by Tim Burton. Tim Burton snuck the Joker into The World of Stainboy episode "The Origin of Stainboy" (2001), too. ua-cam.com/video/6ybEPlwfvvE/v-deo.html The owner of the Red Triangle Circus presumably adopted the Penguin boy with a contract as the star sideshow attraction and raised him in the Red Triangle Circus freak show, featured as 'Jimmy the hideous Penguin Boy - the aquatic bird boy,' exploiting the Penguin for money, as seen in The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy & Other Stories (1997) book by Tim Burton. He'd grown to hate ordinary people and normal children. After numerous reports of missing children in several towns, police closed down the Red Triangle Circus's fair-grounds, folded the tents. However, freak-show performer the Penguin vanished before he could be questioned, as read by Bruce Wayne in the Batman Returns movie. The decrepit Arctic World pavilion became the adult Penguin's hideout. Tim Burton also explained in his Batman Returns commentary, "The old Central Park Zoo... The duck car came from the old dilapidated Zoo amusement park, and this was an old Gotham World's Fair that had been run down."
Just a note. Penguin was already a freak, that's why his parents tried to drown him. He probably just thought he's a penguin cause they raised him, so he walks like them and stuff.
Re-watched this film last night...and I saw/heard something that uses exposition for some Penguin backstory: The newspaper article about the Circus Gang mentions that there was a "bird boy" with them when they got away. Kinda helps fill in some major gaps-like how he learned to talk/walk. Kinda.
As someone who grew up watching the Tim Burton batman movies i always found it weird how in the later versions he suddenly does everything he can to avoid killing people.
This is hands down still my favorite Batman movie. Don't get me wrong--I love the Nolan trilogy. But there is something so twisted about Batman Returns that I just enjoy so much.
Me too! Catwoman was a huge influence on me. I'd never seen anything like her, and I wanted to be her so bad. She still speaks to me as a character, and she actually has a way better feminist story arc than the modern WW movie. I started dressing like Catwoman and everything, to the extent that I was able as a kid. This will always be my favorite Catwoman, my favorite depiction of Gotham, and therefore my favorite Batman movie.
I always just figured the whole Batman killing the ice princess was resolved when Penguin says I played this stinking city like a harp from hell. That pretty much clarifies that he did it and not Batman.
It also happens in Batman Begins when Scarecrow lights Batman on fire. Just pause at the moment Batman catches fire, and you'll notice that the eye makeup is magically gone.
@@Theillive What do you mean? That's the reason it's gone when the mask comes off. The the costume department uses eye makeup to make the mask appear more seamless around the eyes. Otherwise, it looks dumb.
This films Penguin is pretty much a completely new character, the only things it has in common with the real Penguin character is the name Penguin and his real name Oswald. I had no idea for years until my cousin told me.
He also has the top hat, monocle and weaponized umbrellas. But the OG Penguin, deformed or not, was more of a sophisticated gentlemen of crime underground, not a monstrous baby-killer. And while Catwoman does have a duality complex, she's not *this* crazy if at all. Also, the 9 lives thing, that's just weird. Still a way better Catwoman than Halle Berry though.
I love how the Burton Batman movies have the camp elements of the 60s miniseries but with an added darkness and better production values. The Nolan, Snyder and Reeves versions just dismiss all the ridiculousness of Gotham and its villains
A dude in a super mask taking over a city just so he can blow it up but not before giving away his diabolical plan in a needlessly long exposition dump with the main character may not be campy intentionally, but it sure is terrible either way.
He didn't. In fact, he couldn't because he had some kind of weird dyslexia that made the panels hard to decipher for him. He just wanted to show off his surreal cityscapes and prove to the world how nutty and unhinged Batman would ACTUALLY be.
Me: He’s done it all! There’s no more room to innovate! Also me: WHAT, TWO SUPER EASY BARELY AN INCONVENIENCES IN ONE EPISODE??! THE MAN HAS DONE IT YET AGAIN
@@raimundoj888 Batman, Catwoman and Penguin represent arrested adolescence. Max Shreck represents the corporate greed which is keeping both them and the city from developing beyond crime and terror. Catwoman and Batman neck on a couch like giddy teens, trying to hide their scars as if they were cutters. Penguin's moronic sexuality is as if a 14 year old boy was trapped in an adult man's body; his babyish clothes and circus theme highlight his manchild nature.
@@raimundoj888 watch the movie so you can understand. If you've already seen it, but still don't see the repeated symbolism, watch it again. There are quite a few different themes that are written off as subtext, but they have meaning. Listen carefully to the dialogue from Batman, Penguin, and Catwoman. They carry the most symbolism in this movie. All Batman movies (except Batman Forever (though they tried) and Batman and Robin) have heaps of symbolism. One could argue that's how all DC characters are written.
I was probably no younger than 5 or 6 the first I saw this movie and love/loved every second of it - nose biting and all. For all the talk about today's parents complaining about the newest one being too scary, they all have seemed to forget that the number one sure fire way to guarantee kids will want to see this movie is to claim "it's not for kids."
@@TwistedReality13 It irks me how the same kids from 1992 that loved this movie completely forgot what it's like to be a kid when a new Batman movie comes out. It's too scary for kids? Good. Get scared. _It's a movie._
The warnings are for parents, who are expected to actually monitor and limit what media their children consume. Obviously the warnings are not aimed at kids themselves.
I love this movie, its much better than the first one! It's a Tim Burton movie though, so of course realism isn't a priority - it's more like a fairytale
Hey Ryan. Thank you so much for yet another awesome pitch meeting. Please do a pitch meeting for the Ice Age movies. That has to be "super easy barely an inconvenience" for you.
That has bothered me so many years, the fact they somehow had batmobile blueprints. It's never explained nor is it explained how a bunch of circus freaks have engineering skills and can strip apart the batmobile and put it back together perfectly.
What do you guys want to see pitched next?!
Anything you do is gold so feel free!
"Lady in the Water"....after you finish all the Harry Potters anyway.
American History X.
Pitching "Labyrinth" would be super-easy.
There will be blood
I just love how casually screenwriter guy says "sewer penguins" like all sewers have penguins or thats just the species
And this remains unquestioned. XD
Its a result of the Penguin infestation that happened in Gotham back in the 60s. It was a real tragedy when you think about it. All those baby penguins thrown down the toilet after they started growing up... No wonder they acepted Oswald as one of their own. And, eventually, as their king. Such a beatiful story. 😢
@@pedrovallefin8406 Responsible citizens should unite to spread work of the plight of these flightless avians. "Gotham's Forgotten Fowls".
I respected the sewer penguins. They had heart.
How would you describe them other than sewer penguins
"And then Catwoman is gonna want to kill Shrek but Batman saves him." Sounds like a fever dream I had once.
Is the electricity and Catwoman kiss the reason Shrek became an ogre?😆
Omg I literally read this comment at the same time screenwriter guy said it 🤣
@@captainsavy5150 lol you gotta lay off the word literally. Also what the hell are you doing reading comments before the video has ended? Do you have ADD?
@@mkultra2456 literally
@@jonagreen7323 why r u gai?
“Well, let me tell you, sir, she’s got GLASSES on, so she’s ABSOLUTELY hideous.”
That line delivery is pure gold 😂
And the fact he's saying it while wearing glasses... and then producer guy emphatically doubles down on how ugly people are if they wear glasses. Just subtle enough to make you feel clever for catching it.^^
"she's got glasses on, so she's absolutely hideous"
Screenwriter guy with the self burn there
This only applies to women. Men with glasses are just nerds. They can still be hot nerds.
@@tenlegdragon In 80's and 90's movies glasses makes you ugly regardless of genders.
@@tenlegdragon nah they do it with guys too
@tenlegdragon All Superman has to do is put glasses on and he changes from buff god-alien superhero to boring nerdy loser journalist dork Clark Kent.
The glasses rule definitely applies to men too.
Either glasses make you ugly, or they make you completely unrecognizable from your superhero alter ego.
"Clark Kent isn't Superman, he wears glasses!"
Getting two super-easy-barely-an-inconvenience jokes is tight!
Wowowow
@@z-beeblebrox wow
So tight. 😚👌
Wow wow
Wow
Oh boy.
"The thing about Batman as a character is he *loves* to kill." Literally laughed out loud.
Cuts to that creepy smile he does
You gotta stop over using the word literally.
@@mkultra2456 literally only used it once
@@epgamer1145 Still too much. And now you too lol.
@@mkultra2456 that was obviously just to mess with you
I wish he covered the part where Batman just stood over the edge of a building watching the Ice Princess fall only to reveal moments later that he had a glider the whole time. lol
I can't save everybody. Save a falling woman using my hang glider? That wouldn't have worked. I don't fly. That's the other guy. I'm not Superman.
@@StevieStitches How's your mom and dad? Damn....I'm sorry. I mean...How's Jason Todd? Ok..damn..uhhhh....you suck at saving ppl you care about!!! ***Leaves Chat***
@@SBzKillFrenzy Don't bring it up! I was just a boy. Now I'm a bat.
@@StevieStitches Gotta change your name to Ratman, and use your grapnel gun more.
@@shiranuiaensland1442 Actually it's a spear gun, Ratbreath. I tried to save her after the kidnapping. It was set up to look like I did it... to frame me.
I've been watching Ryan's pitch meetings for years at this point and he still manages to make me laugh out loud
It's super easy.... barely an inconvenience for him!
@@TheSpeediestRogue Oh really?!
It been like 5 years now
@@danschumacher5427 Watching Ryan tall to himself for 5 years straight using the same catchphrases in every video is tight!
I've been watching Ryan's pitch meetings for years at this point and I've seen this comment in every video
Can’t wait to find out how they got the batmobile blueprints in Rogue One: A Batman Story
Legend
Just wait until we find out Bruce got his name from one of Penguin's goons in Wayne: A Batman Story.
This comment is GOLD. Well done. 👏👏👏
A ton of lives were lost on account of getting those blue prints…🫡
Don't give Hollywood any ideas! They'll milk literally anything for money these days!
1:30 "... and she has a cat that falls into her sink..." That's an underrated line.
Everyone just accepts that “Sewer Penguins” are a thing in major American cities. No questions there.
- Sewer Penguins? How?
- Because!
-That works!
It's the rare sewer penguin that doesn't have rocket launchers.
If australian people can have sewer crocodiles, why cant american people have sewer pinguins or germans sewer potatoes? We live in a free world man
Not a one
I've never been in the sewers so as far as I know there might be penguins down there.
"Cats are notorious for their sewing skills!" "They are!"
"Wait so Batman always has to destroy his mask to get it off?"
"Well because the mask is so tight there's no other way to remove it!"
"Oh ripping off a tight mask is tight!"
That's one of the gripes I have with Batman Returns, otherwise my favorite Batman movie. They could've easily just cut to Catwoman as he starts taking off the cowl and then the next scene he's without it...that way not only did he not have to unappealingly rip off the cowl but also not be without the dark eye makeup while he's still wearing the cowl. I mean if we don't get to fully see how he suits up why show him unmask either. it's cooler that way.
NANOTECHNOLOGY!
@@AshrafAnam lol, should've kept the dark eye make up.
@@ProjektTaku You mean outside the mask?
@@AshrafAnam yeah.
I’ve always loved the “I’ll kill all of these nameless henchmen but I WON’T kill the main bad guy because that would be wrong” trope.
That's one of the reasons I find Batman so silly as a character in virtually every incarnation on the big screen.
He's a billionaire from birth. For him the life of everyone who's not the boss doesn't count
@@SeraphsWitness I just watched Batman Begins again and it was very funny to hear him explain why he wouldn’t execute the murderer, then see him immediately kill a bunch of people by setting their home on fire.
@@RedheadDevito Yea that whole thing was idiotic. I have no problem with him killing bad guys... that's why Punisher is so awesome. What I hate is the silly declaration of moral superiority, and THEN the subsequent hypocrisy. And the stupid blurring of the lines by saying, "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you."
Okay bud, whatever. lol
Batman didn't kill anyone. The fire and bomb did.
I legit never considered the thing about how easy the mirrors into his house would make it to figure out who it is. 🤣
I mean let’s be honest. It’s been almost a century. Every man woman and child knows it’s Bruce Wayne.
It's only easy if you know WHICH house (out of millions) to look at for mirrors...Otherwise, it's a shot-in-the-dark....if you'll excuse the expression.
@@toAdmiller I hope there's never a Batmergency when Bruce Wayne is hosting a benefit gala in Wayne Manor, lol
"I've been pooping on a ton of cars" got me far more than it should have 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2:59 Keaton's evil smirk gets me every time! 😂
Meme gold
Keaton is the best Batman
I like that "sewer penguins" just totally slips by amidst the other Burton-nuttiness.
to be fair the sewer led to the abandoned zoo, so that would technically explain the penguins livin there...a bit
I absolutely love that they included the part about the studio freaking out that they couldn't sell a lot of toys
He not they
@@rjb1216 They, there’s obviously two people, Producer Guy and Screenwriter Guy
@@rjb1216 they're two different people, obviously.
@@rjb1216 Both Ryan and George deserve credit. This channel would not exist with only half the cast.
@@vissenekku
Wow wow wow.
Catwoman has the best character introduction to Batman with those flips. She was very well cast.
I was 9 and when she stabbed her stuffed animals and the stuffing flew all over the place I freaked out way worse than I did at the actual human violence
I love that Michelle Pfeiffer got really good using a whip before filming. She whipped the heads off the mannequins herself.
@@G360LIVE she’s also still pretty good at the whip apparently
@@KurenaiNanashi yeah..that didn't connect like how you thought it would lol nice try tho
@@KurenaiNanashi
Yep she broke it out recently and found she still has the moves.
She said she would never put on that catsuit again though, even for her husband.
Pointing out the fact that the penguins somehow knew how to do a funeral procession was hilarious!
You know when you just say the entire plot out loud, this movie really is f-ing insane.
This movie could have easily been Rated R.
Most movies are, after Ryan gets done with them.
You say that like this movie didn't seem insane while watching it.
And that's why it's amazing...
Horrible movie. I always say it’s just Batman again, but with Burton let completely off his leash this time. Never go full Burton. (Unless it’s just a ground-up Burton creation, which Batman isn’t.)
I remember a couple of scene in one of the Tim Burton Batmans where Bruce Wayne is somewhere reading something and he's wearing glasses. Wouldn't be hilarious if people just saw him and said "who are you?! what did you do with Bruce Wayne!"
Yo…did we just get two “super easy, barely an inconvenience’s” in one episode…keep it up, you two!
Yea, George and Ryan are great in these 😀
@@I.am.Sarah. they’re just two peas in a cubicle-pod!
"I bet it will be hard to have 2 catchphrases in one episode"
It isn't the first time.
@@startingQB or the last! (Hopefully)
I kind of like the supernatural elements Tim Burton added to his Batman movies. If anyone didn't notice, Bruce Wayne sleeps like a bat in the 1989 Batman movie and this is the same one. He is just expanding on his own lore in Batman Returns.
Burton went off the rails in this one, making it too much of a fantasy. Batman '89 had some over-the-top moments, but was far more grounded and suspension-of-disbelief sustaining.
@@dreamlandnightmare Agreed, Batman '89 was the better movie, a bit to much Burtoning in the sequel, but, Keaton is my generations Batman so he and the movies are the best Batman movies
"You know that McDonald's have to make some Happy Meal toys out of this right?"
I got a feeling that this was actually said in several Warner Brothers meetings. 😂🤣
Burton was originally set to do more Batman movies but they hated this one. I think it’s a weird gem.
yeah, I had all the Happy Meal toys for this movie
@@VeganCATS1I still have one.
I just recently learned that Max Schreck was the name of the actor who played Nosferatu. So Batman Returns' Max Schreck's power plant was actually a vampire power plant !
I still love this movie, Danny De Vito gave a hell of a performance
Why do I feel so certain the nose biting wasn’t in the script, and wasn’t Burton’s idea? Danny probably said, “I’m gonna bite a guy in the face in this movie so have the fake blood on stand-by. You don’t like it? Good luck finding another penguin!”
I like the movie. But as with all Burton movies, the story lines are all over the place.
I always loved the scene as just before he dies and he raises out of the water with the blood nose, the timing of everything and the darkness was perfect.
Batman Returns is one of my favorite Batman movies. Definitely a hilarious Pitch Meeting lol
Hey, Ryan. It would be awesome to have Pitch Meetings of The Mummy (Brendan Fraser/Rachel Weisz).
Super enjoyed this one!
Hell yes! Love those movies.
@@KotoKiminama "Oh yeah, it starts with some random stuff that suposedly happened some thousend years ago in Egypt"
"Uhh then we should get some experts on Egyptian history, to make sure the story aligns with historical characters."
"About that, why don't we just put together a story with people that actually existed, but in a span of 500 years?"
"Why woiuld we do that?"
"It's cheaper."
"Why didn't you say so in the first place!"
@Robert ""Uhh then we should get some experts on Egyptian history, to make sure the story aligns with historical characters.""
Alternate scripting: "Yeah yeah yeah! 15 minutes should be enough! I think the History Channel has people who know about this stuff."
"So after Imhotep killed the pharaoh the priests curse him. By turning him into a super powerful person. And then the priests' descendants have to watch over him for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. They can never leave, they have to watch that spot in the desert."
"So who was cursed exactly? Imhotep or the priests' families?"
Only if they mention people freaking out about the prospect of remaking the 1999 Brendan Fraser The Mummy while ignoring that it was a remake of the 1932 The Mummy starring Boris Karloff.
I'm glad Ryan's Pitch Meeting got its own channel, so I'm able to click the notification and get notified for these.
Thanks to that, I got to unsubscribe from Screen Rant.
Yeah it is super easy, barely an inconvenience now.
The channel is still owned by Screen Rant lmao
@@camelopardalis84 they own this channel too so no you haven't
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 They may own the channel but you don't get a metric ton of shit clogging up your subscription feed or an absurd amount of notifications from whatever low quality, clickbait drivel SR puts out every 20 minutes
"My poop comes out white now." LOL!! I did not see that one coming!
“And then within the span of a minute, Penguin gropes a random stranger and tells Catwoman that she’s the p*$$y he’s looking for”
“This… is a kids movie?”
“Oh whoops!”
“Whoopsie!”
Wow wow wow
@@TrillCityBaby Wow
@@brontosa5351 you understood the assignment lol!! 💯
tbf, penguin groping a random person is pretty on point for a slimy politician.
Only question is, how did the movie avoid an R-Rating🤔
Kids were built tougher back then
I'm glad you got a channel for pitch meetings. Crazy how all these movies got made from your pitches! Wow wow wow...wow!
"She gives her cat a bowl of milk and probably some diarrhea."
Ryan, never change. You're perfect already.
So he's becoming BAT-HERO?
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Our cats are 17 years old. We give them a little milk time to time.
You could say Ryan is.. pitch perfect
“There are penguins in Gotham’s Sewer? Arent they exclusive to the South Pole?”
“They sure are, sir”
"you were just going to scare her"
"well she looked scared to me"
Two “super easy, barely an inconvenience “s in one video is TIGHT!
I thought I was trippin
It sure is
Wow wow wow ....wow!
You know for Ryan that was super easy barley a inconvenience
It's going to be hard for Ryan to include three SEBAIs in one video!
As someone who favored this film as a kid, despite how dark and messed up it was, I actually thought That The Penguin living in the Sewers was his actual origin story. So I was super shocked to learn that in other forms of media, he's more Kingpin than Penguin Monster.
yeah... with the partial exception of Two Face, no villain in Burton/Schumacher movies has the actual origin story and when it comes to The Penguin it's literally an in name only adaptation
@@stcsuntzucreed True, but Danny DeVito just goes for it in the role! Probably one of his greatest performances!
Still a great movie. I remember seeing this in the theater as a kid.
@@stcsuntzucreed So, the Joker doesn't fall into a vat of chemicals in the comics? You sure about that?
@@igrim4777 that was retconned i believe.
"Did he buy some clothes in the wrong size". Ryan is a genius.
🦇🕴RETURNS👕👖🧥🧦👟
Such a great start to a video. Instant UA-cam classic
I'd watch that over any of the last 6 Batman movies.
@@peterzerfass4609 S I X ?
Returning oversized clothes is TIGHT!!
I love how they just sort of casually brush past the sewer penguins
I don’t remember this movie being so fantastical?
What's wrong with sewer penguins?
Either they didn't think about it... or simply thought at this point it was the least ridiculous idea they had in that movie.
They have penguins as far north as the Galapagos Islands.
@@IndigoIndustrial which is known for it's intricate sewer system
I am so glad they have their own channel. This one was great. I would love to see an Enchanted Pitch Meeting
I love that 2:26 in, producer guy remembers that it's a batman movie
0:44
That's the background story of all the characters, the real Ryan just happened to save all the children in a burning orphanage (by doing a backflip and snapping the arsonists neck of course) and all of them grew up to be extremely Ryan-like
Hope this comment is pinned. First I've seen of it's kind. Truly deserving of many thumbs.
Edit: read through all the top level comments and most of the replies. This was the only one of its kind.
Ryan is not an animal though. In this video, dude clearly said "if ANIMAL saved your life..." ..so your theory is flawed
@@beardedentity Hey Carl, yeah Carl. We're retconning your book. Yeah, no biggie, just humans aren't animals now we decided.
@@beardedentity humans are animals though
When the cats had licked Selina back to life, she had just eight lives left because her being tossed out of Schreck‘s window was counted by her as minus one.
Two moments of “Super easy, barely an inconvenience” in the same video is tight!
whoops
@@kennethnwebb whoopsie
It was probably barely an inconvenience for him! 😜
I honestly thought he was gonna go for a 3rd one with stopping penguin
This movie still has by far the SEXlEST villain in movie history.
Yes, I am talking about Danny DeVito.
That might be true if I wasn't already the sexiest villain in movie history. Thank goodness for Advent Children; otherwise I wouldn't qualify.
Danny Devito ain't all that 😂
@@MartiZenith Maybe if you were Rhea Perlman he might be. (I know they've split, but they never divorced.)
You had us in first half, ain't gonna lie.
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I love the line about Batman being in the movie. It really points out something comic book movies never seem to learn. Multiple villians in the same movie drags out the story building to such a degree that the "main hero" is barely in the last half of the movie. Now Batman Returns was a pretty good movie. But still having 3 or more main villains in the movie just to cram as many as possible always hurts the over all movie imo.
You tend to not really care about any of them, and they all feel kind of weak as they just do stuff to make the plot happen. I always think of Spiderman 3 when this issue comes up. That movie tried to do Sandman, Hobgoblin and Venom all in one movie....
Sounds like Spiderman Far Away from Home
Please do more "classic" films. Like titanic, alien, scarface etc.
Also, if you did Snatch. That would be legendary.
Snatch would be excellent!
Awww man snatches are *TIGHT!* ....That...that came out wrong. Oh Whoops!
@@lukewright9031 Whoopsie!
@@lukewright9031 lmao
@@Etticos. trust. I've been suggesting it for ages. I've got a lil document I copy and paste with suggestions 🤣 I really would love to see Snatch and the evil dead trilogy done.
Omg I love this movie so much. I watched it over and over as a kid and I have had a lifelong love of penguins. I have a penguin tattoo, work with penguins, all my family knows a penguin related gift is my jam.
32 and never stopped loving penguins because of this movie.
Thank you Batman Returns
So then you're well aware that penguins inherently know how to conduct a funeral procession... if only Ryan knew this very basic fact and didn't question it so foolishly 😅
@@andrewgilbert4659 Along with their superior human baby raising skills 🤣
How many unsavory acts have you committed with penguins?
I hope you work as a software engineer or something, and not in a zoo or anything.
@@adamcetinkent Linux dev :P
“Life saving cat saliva is tight”
Genuinely made me choke
Don't worry the life saving cat saliva will save you.
@@percycahill3 if you have access to a cat, that is.
I'm howling at this.
Was a huge comic fan growing up, and this was THAT movie upon release. Great work though.
Ryan: creates pitch meeting channel
Batman Franchise: I’m gonna need you to get aaaall the way off my back
My absolute favorite, lives rent free in my mind for 30 years, detail is the way the actor playing Max Schreck's son is just doing a low rent Christopher Walken impression.
You left out that the scene where Catwoman sticks the Penguin's pet bird in her mouth to threaten him, Michelle actually stuck the bird in her mouth, no CGI or trick photography.
Bird in mouth. I couldn't believe it.
Also, this movie was one of my favorites as a child, and its still one of my guilty pleasures.
Good thing it didn't take a dump.
I think Penguin also asserted his dominance by putting her cat in his mouth probably. I don't remember the movie very well.
@@PurooRoy probably lol
@@PurooRoy it was an umbrella knife to it's throat
No shame. I still have my old VHS copy.
Batman always felt like a secondary character in this movie with how little screentime Keaton had compared to DeVito, Pfeiffer, & Walken.
I didn't even remember that Keaton played Batman, and now that I watched this video I can tell why. Gosh, he's ugly.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 Only after she took off her glasses.
The funniest part about this movie to me is Walken's plan is basically his plan from the 007 movie he was villain of.
And it is still the best Batman movie ever made.
"She's got glasses on so she's absolutely hideous"
"Sounds like an unattractive loser!"
Movie tropes that never change..
In anime she would be smart calm and likely evil with her glasses tinting solid white time to time to remind viewers shes evil
Also, Pitching guy might as well wear a paper bag over his head, but Producer guy is one to cause a decent man crush.
Who's idea was that women with glasses are hideous? Why was that popular in Hollywood movies? Are those people ever seen women with glasses? They are hot.
@@ExtremeMadnessX bc it's a lot more profitable to get people to buy contacts, which need to be constantly replaced, rather than glasses, which only need to be replaced if they get damaged or one's prescription changes. When glasses are portrayed as unflattering, it gets more people to use contacts, so this is a very common trope bc the glasses industry worked their asses off to ensure that society views glasses as unattractive
@@ExtremeMadnessX I think it's because of the style of women's glasses back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. Making lenses was expensive, so they made the lenses small and the frames thick - often "decorated", which was supposed to make them more attractive, but actually made them look worse. Check out pictures of women wearing glasses from 60+ years ago.
Also, poor eyesight is associated with age, so old women were more likely to wear glasses.
Batman Returns is such a classic that it deserves two "barely a inconvenience" lines
Brilliant film. Top 10 for me. So rewatchable and my favorite Christmas movie of all time.
“Actually it’s gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience” Returns.
"Batman Returns?! Did Batman go somewhere?" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I love this 90s classic and Pitch Meetings is hilarious! Surprised Ryan didn't say, "Catwoman's suit is TIGHT!" 😁❤️
The best part is that he literally responded the exact same way at being told the exact same thing minutes later.
I know this would be going against the formula, but I can't help but imagine this pitch taking a cue from real life and showing the producer pitching this sequel to Tim Burton to try to sway his original reluctance to do it.
"I just don't feel comfortable doing sequels, especially to a movie that had so much studio control like the first one."
"Oh well, how about we give you the go ahead to make it more Burtony?"
"Okay, uh... could I make the Penguin into some kind of deformed penguin-man?"
"Absolutely."
"Can I put Catwoman in a costume that's all stitched up an bursting at the seams?"
"I don't think she ever had a costume like that in the comics."
"She didn't."
"Go ahead!"
"Oh, and the Penguin has an army of killer clowns."
"Wow wow wow. ....Clowns."
Back to the future part 2 pitch meeting would be tight!
Yeah yeah yeah!
Double "super easy, barely an inconvenience". I'm so happy!
I will like that smash button now that you mention it.🤣😂🤣
I love how "penguins living in the sewers of Gotham" doesn't raise any questions.
What? There is no sewer penguins in your city?
The Batman Returns novelization explained that the penguins were from the old Arctic World, a leftover pavilion exhibition from a Gotham World's Fair at the old Gotham Zoo. Baby Oswald was found there, presumably by the owner of the Red Triangle Circus, and taken to the Charity Home for Unusual Cases orphanage, as seen in The World of Stainboy episode "The Origin of Stainboy" (2001) episode by Tim Burton. Tim Burton snuck the Joker into The World of Stainboy episode "The Origin of Stainboy" (2001), too. ua-cam.com/video/6ybEPlwfvvE/v-deo.html The owner of the Red Triangle Circus presumably adopted the Penguin boy with a contract as the star sideshow attraction and raised him in the Red Triangle Circus freak show, featured as 'Jimmy the hideous Penguin Boy - the aquatic bird boy,' exploiting the Penguin for money, as seen in The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy & Other Stories (1997) book by Tim Burton. He'd grown to hate ordinary people and normal children. After numerous reports of missing children in several towns, police closed down the Red Triangle Circus's fair-grounds, folded the tents. However, freak-show performer the Penguin vanished before he could be questioned, as read by Bruce Wayne in the Batman Returns movie. The decrepit Arctic World pavilion became the adult Penguin's hideout. Tim Burton also explained in his Batman Returns commentary, "The old Central Park Zoo... The duck car came from the old dilapidated Zoo amusement park, and this was an old Gotham World's Fair that had been run down."
Just a note. Penguin was already a freak, that's why his parents tried to drown him. He probably just thought he's a penguin cause they raised him, so he walks like them and stuff.
Excellent point!
An even more direct explanation is that this is just Thursday for Danny Devito.
His hands and maybe feet were deformed. Also, Penguin's father is Pee Hee Herman. I think he also played Penguin's father on the show Gotham.
Re-watched this film last night...and I saw/heard something that uses exposition for some Penguin backstory: The newspaper article about the Circus Gang mentions that there was a "bird boy" with them when they got away. Kinda helps fill in some major gaps-like how he learned to talk/walk. Kinda.
As someone who grew up watching the Tim Burton batman movies i always found it weird how in the later versions he suddenly does everything he can to avoid killing people.
This is hands down still my favorite Batman movie.
Don't get me wrong--I love the Nolan trilogy. But there is something so twisted about Batman Returns that I just enjoy so much.
Me too! Catwoman was a huge influence on me. I'd never seen anything like her, and I wanted to be her so bad. She still speaks to me as a character, and she actually has a way better feminist story arc than the modern WW movie. I started dressing like Catwoman and everything, to the extent that I was able as a kid. This will always be my favorite Catwoman, my favorite depiction of Gotham, and therefore my favorite Batman movie.
I love how he says the phrase "Sewer Penguins" like that's a normal everyday thing
Its not?
@@Trakesh It is, IDKmyBFghscdfjh, it is.
@@Trakesh You know what? I've never been in the sewer, so it may actually be a thing
I love Michelle phieffer,s cat woman suit and when she fights with guards it's pretty awesome
Consistently high quality content.
Really? You complained about Screen Rant before but they are the writers. They own this channel too
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 You do realise that they make more than just pitch meetings?
I love how he says sewer penguins like it's a normal occurrence
Omg I watched it so often in my childhood and I loved it,
But holy crap... this screenplay is bananas
I always just figured the whole Batman killing the ice princess was resolved when Penguin says I played this stinking city like a harp from hell. That pretty much clarifies that he did it and not Batman.
I love that Ryan noticed the magic eye make up that appears when Batman puts on his mask and disappears when he ripps it off.
It also happens in Batman Begins when Scarecrow lights Batman on fire. Just pause at the moment Batman catches fire, and you'll notice that the eye makeup is magically gone.
Am I the only one that understands it's supposed to be part of the mask, not eye make up?
@@lj5190 explain how that’s even possible lmao
@@Theillive What do you mean? That's the reason it's gone when the mask comes off. The the costume department uses eye makeup to make the mask appear more seamless around the eyes. Otherwise, it looks dumb.
@@lj5190 dumb like in the new batman movie then?
"did he buy some clothes in the wrong size?"
Sensible chuckle.
I love everything you do, keep up the good work!!!
I can't decide which I like more: "sewer penguins" or "live-saving cat saliva." 😂
why not both sir.
Just Sewer penguins. Delivered with such normalcy was hilarious.
It was the sewer craze of the 90s. People just couldn't get enough sewers back then.
Both are pretty tight
@@samuelfeichtenbiner5020 The literal "shit pipe" Those entendres just keep on doublin'
"If an animal saves your life, you take on that animal's traits."
Confirmed by Kung Pow: Enter the Fist
"But let me tell you, I have been pooping on the top of cars"
"Like that smash button. Oh, that's not it"
"whoops"
"whoopsy"
I think I actually would like a smash button
@@frederickthesquirrel that would make things super easy, barely an inconvenience
This films Penguin is pretty much a completely new character, the only things it has in common with the real Penguin character is the name Penguin and his real name Oswald. I had no idea for years until my cousin told me.
That goes for this film's version of Catwoman as well.
He also has the top hat, monocle and weaponized umbrellas.
But the OG Penguin, deformed or not, was more of a sophisticated gentlemen of crime underground, not a monstrous baby-killer.
And while Catwoman does have a duality complex, she's not *this* crazy if at all. Also, the 9 lives thing, that's just weird.
Still a way better Catwoman than Halle Berry though.
Hey Ryan, I'm loving these Pitch Meetings. How about Speed and Speed 2: Cruise Control? Especially the second one.
I can't believe he just ignored "sewer penguins" right off the bat. lol
Off the bat. Snort
I love how the Burton Batman movies have the camp elements of the 60s miniseries but with an added darkness and better production values. The Nolan, Snyder and Reeves versions just dismiss all the ridiculousness of Gotham and its villains
Ah, yes. The 120 episode miniseries.
I don't really love it but it's true, the Burton Batmans are exactly that.
A dude in a super mask taking over a city just so he can blow it up but not before giving away his diabolical plan in a needlessly long exposition dump with the main character may not be campy intentionally, but it sure is terrible either way.
I asked that very question about the mirrors and bat signal when I saw this movie at the theater.
You should definitely do a pitch meeting for the emperors new groove.
Ryan: "How many Batman Pitch Meetings do you want?"
Screen Rant: "Yes"
That's 8 so far
Batman and Spiderman are in a race for the world record.
@@Bramble451 Spider-Man is winning if you include Into the Spider-Verse and Venom films
@@16shogunelitegreen Does Into the Spider-Verse count as seven? 🤣
"Is Batman in this movie?"
"Yeah. A little bit."
lol
You get me laughing every time Ryan. I would love to see the movies Universal Soldier and Soldier please. They are 2 of my favourite movies
I'll second this, both of them are unintentionally ridiculous.
More and more convinced Tim Burton just didn’t read a single comic
Tim Burton: "yeah yeah, I get it. The bat's got money, now hand me that camera"
He didn't. In fact, he couldn't because he had some kind of weird dyslexia that made the panels hard to decipher for him. He just wanted to show off his surreal cityscapes and prove to the world how nutty and unhinged Batman would ACTUALLY be.
Me: He’s done it all! There’s no more room to innovate!
Also me: WHAT, TWO SUPER EASY BARELY AN INCONVENIENCES IN ONE EPISODE??! THE MAN HAS DONE IT YET AGAIN
not the first time though.
What now to expect?
Three times in one episode?
That would be madness!
I can absolutely not believe how stupid most movies are 😂 Thanks for making it crystal clear Ryan 😬
Suspension of disbelief is required to enjoy pretty much all works of fiction.
The whole point of this movie is to be weird and unhinged, lol. It's not trying at all to be serious and the plot isn't the point. The symbolism is
@@rclark777 and what is the symbolism of this movie?
@@raimundoj888 Batman, Catwoman and Penguin represent arrested adolescence. Max Shreck represents the corporate greed which is keeping both them and the city from developing beyond crime and terror. Catwoman and Batman neck on a couch like giddy teens, trying to hide their scars as if they were cutters. Penguin's moronic sexuality is as if a 14 year old boy was trapped in an adult man's body; his babyish clothes and circus theme highlight his manchild nature.
@@raimundoj888 watch the movie so you can understand. If you've already seen it, but still don't see the repeated symbolism, watch it again. There are quite a few different themes that are written off as subtext, but they have meaning. Listen carefully to the dialogue from Batman, Penguin, and Catwoman. They carry the most symbolism in this movie. All Batman movies (except Batman Forever (though they tried) and Batman and Robin) have heaps of symbolism. One could argue that's how all DC characters are written.
I was probably no younger than 5 or 6 the first I saw this movie and love/loved every second of it - nose biting and all.
For all the talk about today's parents complaining about the newest one being too scary, they all have seemed to forget that the number one sure fire way to guarantee kids will want to see this movie is to claim "it's not for kids."
Yeah, people are so soft it’s crazy.
@@TwistedReality13
It irks me how the same kids from 1992 that loved this movie completely forgot what it's like to be a kid when a new Batman movie comes out. It's too scary for kids? Good. Get scared. _It's a movie._
@@brettbaratheon9776
Helicoptered kids become helicoptered parents? _Who would've thought._
The warnings are for parents, who are expected to actually monitor and limit what media their children consume. Obviously the warnings are not aimed at kids themselves.
@@TheLockdownKidNYC not helicoptered, just terrible parenting as a whole.
‘’Did he buy some clothes in the wrong size?” Hahahahaha
I love this movie, its much better than the first one! It's a Tim Burton movie though, so of course realism isn't a priority - it's more like a fairytale
Hey Ryan. Thank you so much for yet another awesome pitch meeting. Please do a pitch meeting for the Ice Age movies. That has to be "super easy barely an inconvenience" for you.
3:36
Love the delivery of that "what" lol
"Welcome to the Oswald Cobblepot School of Pitch Meetings. Gentlemen, start your 'Wow wow wows!"
Wow wow wow!
That has bothered me so many years, the fact they somehow had batmobile blueprints. It's never explained nor is it explained how a bunch of circus freaks have engineering skills and can strip apart the batmobile and put it back together perfectly.