"Nothing Ahsoka does matters at all because the Palpatines win in the end." So True, nothing Disney does with any of their Star Wars shows matter because in the end everything all the Rebels did and died for in the original films gets undone in the Disney trilogy, along with the destruction of our favorite characters.
In fact, this phrase explains, perhaps, why I - but, I guess, other people too - can't see the products of the Disney era (except for Rogue One, which has its own reason for existing, and Andor, which I haven't seen) as belonging to the star wars universe. I'm not sure how to explain it: I enjoyed Clone Wars a lot, but I find it hard to include it in the world created by Lucas. Episode I, II and III despite their flaws and differences from the original trilogy, I conceive them as fundamental pieces of the Star Wars macro plot. Instead The Mandalorian has (had?) as its ultimate goal lead to Snoke (at least, so it seemed to me). Ahsoka seems to want to arrive at the birth of the first order ... in short, everything seems to point towards a trilogy done badly, and born only to make money, without a real project behind it.
Remember that Ashokas sabers were so hot that it cut through 6 inch stone in a matter of seconds, but somehow Sabine or all the other people except Qui Gon survive being impaled by a saber. Why are y’all still giving this company money?
@@oXRaptorzXo I see you keep bringing up the same retarded point thinking you're a super genius, so I'm just going to debunk your idiotic copy pasta: 1. The real reason Qui-Gon lasted as long as he did is for narrative reasons, to tell Obi-Wan before he dies "to train the boy" which is something every movie, show, book, or game has done since ever. 2. The time from Qui-Gon getting stabbed, Obi-Wan waiting for the shield to go down, and then dueling Maul lasted exactly two minutes. Qui-Gon could have been holding on to life using the force, but even if this was the case he was fading fast. He had enough time to instruct Obi-Wan to take Anakin in as his apprentice and immediately expired after the fact. There was no force healing, no time travel, no visit to the emergency room, he had 2 minutes of life and that was it. So what you want everyone to believe is that Sabine was found, immediately taken from bumfuck no where to an ER, and had a lightsaber wound under the breast and directly into her right lung immediately remedied within the timeframe of two minutes? You are a goddamn moron if you think Qui-Gon holding on for 2 minutes before dying to a lightsaber wound to the stomach is at all similar to this situation lmao. By your dip shit logic Qui-Gon was in a palace with more than likely the highest end medical droids in the event that someone as important as Naboo royalty would end up sick or injured and didn't survive. Sabine gets stabbed in the torso in the middle of nowhere completely alone and no one could possibly reach her, but she lives. Promptly go fuck yourself you stupid tit.
The surviving being stabbed with the lightsaber really needs to stop. If that blade is as hot as we are told it is it should be like instant death. No one should be able to survive that let alone the gaping hole in their body.
Lighsabers can melt though metal and cut rocks like paper. It would litterally leave a crater of dead, burned flesh with every blood vessels and cells around the wound eseentially being nuked immediately. It would sever tons of key blood vessels and immediately burst or cauterize them, leading to gigantic loss of blood pressure all around the body and death... You would be left it a gigantic cater of burned flesh, necrosis and blood vessels no longer delivering blood all over the body. And that's not even accounting for the fact there's key organs like lungs / kidneys/intenstines and stomach in the area that would probably also be severly damaged in the process. I mean even stabbing someone through with a sharp metal sword would probably kill them, but we're supposed to believe a beam of pure plasma would leave a small burn marks and no lasting damage. B.S
Vader is hit many times by lightsaber and walks it off almost every character loses an arm in star wars. So by what you say star wars in itself is stupid
@davidfrederiksen3185 how is getting hit in the shoulder with armour and robotic limbs the same as being impaled in your guts. People say anything on the net😣🤣
I hate that lightsabers have essentially been boiled down to a glowing baseball bat that does no damage at all, the worst offender was in the kenobi series where it bounces several times off a storm trooper.
Agreed. Said baseball thing works in Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor because that's a video game and it can't be that easy. But it seems the movies and shows took this literally and made the lightsabers useless
@@lucifermagne7458 the fact you bring up fallen order as a direct comparison is interesting because it goes deeper than just the lightsabers behaving the same way, the plot & character arc in kenobi & fallen order are almost the exact same, it’s actually crazy. The way he infiltrated the inquisition base is the same, the breaking of the glass is the same there’s so many plot points and beats that are the exact same
@@lucifermagne7458 & also would love to see a Star Wars game where the combat is somewhat similar to for honour, kingdom come deliverance etc where it’s mostly about parrying attacks and when you do land an attack it’s fatal to the opponent.
@@bruhdon4748 it's good in Fallen Order because those things were new and cool. But when you do the same thing in a completely different show, it becomes bland. If Kenobi had done it first, it'd be better. Kenobi would still be a piece of shit show, but those specific comparisons wouldn't have felt used too much
There is a big, big difference between writing for an animated series and writing for live action, and this has become painfully apparent post Clone Wars and Rebels.
Lets not pretend rebels or clone wars was any good anyway lol. Clone wars is 2 decent episodes because dooku apears in them then 20 fillers . Repeat for 6 seassons and you got clone wars. Rebels is a joke that dropped even in the mesh departament which made the animation look horrible
Also wasn’t he not an actual writer for the clone wars except for a couple random episodes. He was more the creative head then an actual writer. Which really shows that he’s not actually a professional writer.
I feel like fans are afraid of admitting how bad it is because they hold Filoni in such high regard; but let's be honest, his best work was on Clone Wars when he was part of a big creative team and not in charge. Mandalorian is a mixed bag, ranging from dull to good to hot trash.
@@crazyralph6386Eh, a lot of people do genuinely like these first two episodes. I've never been big on Filoni myself and I found this show so far to be decent. But it seems these days one has to be either baying for blood or sucking Disney's dick, middle-ground takes seem forbidden nowadays.
His best work was Clone wars, and that was when he was with George Lucas lmao; When he was given free reign in season 7, you easily see how he blunders it; spends half a season on twin sisters no one gives damn about, but the finale was pretty good
After watching CLONE WARS, REBELS and now THIS, I am convinced Dave has a life size sex robot of Ahsoka in his office. Not Rosario Dawson Ahsoka, but the CLONE WARS Ahsoka. Nahmeen? 😅
I would dare say that if you are intimately versed in Rebels and Clone Wars, this series will be extremely aggravating to watch. What does it say about a writer who wont even respect his own past works when building off of them? My suspicion is that Dave Filoni didn't have as much writing credit in Clone Wars and Rebels as we have all been led to believe. I think he's been carried by more talented people and we are witnessing him on his own for the first time.
I am very familiar with both shows and have enjoyed these 2 episodes so far. In fact, most fans have. Idk how this channel got recommended to me but people are nut cases if they think this shows is as bad as they say it is. Yall trippin, especially considering recent stuff like Mando s3 (was good but picked up pace like the last 2 episodes), obi, and boba. Dave could've used a little extra help with writing but really it's not that bad. Honestly star wars fans are the worst people to please
@@mrgermanvono35 I agree. I've watched both shows beforehand and enjoyed these past two episodes. Sad to see some people just sh*t on this with no constructive criticism. Also I totally agree that Star Wars fans are just the worst to please.
@@barlosjimbo5200well these channels make money off the hate so not having on Disney especially when there is majority woman Leeds could hurt their Salary
@barlosjimbo5200 yeah. I've definitely seen reviews of the show with good constructive criticism but also worthwhile praise. A lot of Fandom are hard to please, but start wars especially so. Lately it's been warranted since our expectations have not been met when there has been some really good stuff recently, then we get Bobf and obi wan..
It feels touched by the dead hand that is Kathleen Kennedy. "Basically, everything needs more strong female characters, make the men weak and feeble and ideally kill them off as soon as possible, especially the old white guys. The Force is Wamen". Thanks Kathleen
To be fair, the old white man in this show is amazing. I really like Baylan Skoll, he was fun when had his moments. The sad thing is that the actor actually did pass away. I would have loved to see more of him. In regards to male presence in the story, we can assume that Ezra and Thrawn will be in the story soon and at least Thrawn will (hopefully) be an important and strong presence.
Nah, this show reeks of Filoni's c*m socks, he literally made his OC be the most important character in Star Wars and responsible for half of the events
Sucks cause I really wanted an Ahsoka show since the character was really badass in the Mandalorian... But alas it's clearly live action Rebels, which I never cared about, with the main character being Sabine which I find insufferable.
I was actually fairly invested in the Saber fight between two females. Since there wasn't a man that would otherwise obviously be defeated, Disney had to knowingly decide that a woman would lose on-screen. Rough day on-set😂
Dave Filoni's stories always feel like the pen and paper rpg stories that I came up with on the fly when the guys wanted to play a game unexpectedly. You're here, this person contacts you, you have to find this and then defeat the boss.
A more important question is why does an ruined ancient temple that could be thousands of years old have a gold sphere with a map to modern day Thrawn?
It's not a map to thrawn, it's a map to where he was taken by the purgil. The implication is the that the night sisters tracked the purgil routes between galaxies. So they found a map that shows where the Purgil would have gone.
@@mrgermanvono35 I supposed that makes slightly more sense, but if its a map of different routes the night sisters took how could they identify which one Thrawn followed? Do they just travel each one infinitely until they find him? Better yet what's the guarantee he's even still there? I still think its just as dumb as both Luke and Palpatine having maps to reach their secret hideouts when both never wanted to be found.
@@j.avance9031I mean that guy just made the purgill thing up. Really it’s just a map to a planet. I’m assuming there’s something significant about the planet and that’s why Thrawn is there specifically.
@@oXRaptorzXohave you watched any of the shows with ahsoka. Thrawn is not just there cause he wants to he was moved ther after rebels along with another Jedi and everyone wants to find them because a Ezra is a Jedi and have friends. B because thrawn is the smartest character in star wars maybe only second to palpatine
@@davidfrederiksen3185 When your job involves being a writer and director, yes, that's a bad thing. A very bad thing, in fact. Star Wars under George Lucas took inspirations from many sources like Akira Kurosawa (The Hidden Fortress), John Ford (The Searchers), Fritz Lang (Metropolis), and even used Leni Riefenstahl's infamous propaganda film, Triumph of the Will, as inspiration for the storm trooper marches. Many of the greatest pieces of art were influenced by other things, especially in the cases of film or television. If Lucasfilm wants Star Wars to stay alive, they need to go back to the well for inspiration (Kurosawa and Ford would be great starting points as they made MANY great films that are highly influential to this very day), as well as fire a number of bumbling hacks running the company. As a writer and director, Filoni needs to study others in his field of work. He could learn a lot that could greatly benefit the franchise he wants to create for, rather than let it become stagnant and devolve completely into dreadful vanity/ideological projects.
@@davidfrederiksen3185 the bad thing is he doesn't love any other movies. Even when you look at clone wars making off videos George was educating his team by showing them classic movies like Seven Samurai etc. And what is the only thing from outside of star wars Filloni sometimes put in his productions? Nods to Kurosawa. The point is you can't be a creative storyteller if youd don't know many interesting stories. You need to learn new things in art to get some inspiration and tell something that won't be repetetive
I’m old enough to remember when Ahsoka, Sabine, and Hera all had distinct personalities. Ahsoka showed more emotion in Rebels than she ever did in this show.
I’m old enough to remember when people didn’t judge an entire show based on 2 episodes and when Star Wars fans weren’t a bunch of salty losers crying about the most meaningless stuff 😂
Rather than build a meaningful character from the ground up, they just have this Swiss Army knife character who just has all fucking skills that are completely inconsistent in other projects where the character appears
wait they gave her the force?.... didnt rebels go out of their way to tell us she does not have the force while kanan was training her to use the dark saber????
They didn’t give her the force. At the very most she can hear voices while she sleeps. The droid trainer robot said she had the lowest force sensitivity out of every Jedi he ever trained
@@ninvusoogoar6098 No it’s not. It’s not like you can just sense force sensitivity in anyone anyways, even Vader couldn’t sense Leia and she’s far stronger than Sabine. It actually explains her picking up saber fighting so fast in rebels and it doesn’t change anything cause it’s so minor
What's sad is, i've seen dawson in other movies and she is a good actress. I think the director told her to act like a plank so the character seems "badass". These people are confusing badass with boring.
Exactly. They want to be like men but somehow men being acting stoic is better. When it's women, lately, they're like a plank of wood and somehow come off as cheap and fake
@@exoticredtadpole2713How can Ahsoka be a jedi master when the person who trained her barely even made it to the rank of Jedi Knight and was still being trained himself. Ahsoka is FAR from a Jedi master, she's not even a Jedi anymore.
@@infinite6339Bruh there are no jedi around right now except Luke. You are seriously getting pissed over the semantics. Like in my personal opinion she has surpassed the jedi knighthood and is now the realm of jedi master if Order 66/leaving the order did not happen.
Imagine if the writers actually had the balls to kill off sabine in that episode. It would have changed the entire context and tone of the whole series, and given Ashoka an actual reason to become invested in the plot other than "empire bad" and added some emotional stakes Instead i turned it off the moment i saw her sit up in that hospital bed
@godisdead69420 how is she suddenly a Jedi? From what I recall of rebels only Kanan and Ezra (In the ghost crew or whatever they called themselves) were the force sensitive ones and she was a mandalorian, the closest she got to Jedi training was Kanan training her to use a lightsaber. You'd think Maul would detect it at least
@craigtucker7989 she's not. Ahsoka only really seemed to have trained her in jedi ways/lights aber combat. But already acknowledged her lack of force skills. Sabine is a mandalorian and probably looked to get more ways of training. We will probably find out more
@@Eugene_Blackthe droid in the show said that she had the lowest force sensitivity out of every Jedi he’s every trained (and he trained younglings for hundreds of years)
10:23 it's even worse for Luke because the lightsaber stab he died from travelled across the universe to kill him... And he literally turned to dust after like a second... He didn't even get enough time to fall to the ground before death came to him...
I dont get why the sith apprentice cant just decapitate sabine after being stab-melt in the abdomen to make sure she doesnt survive because apparently in disney starwars, being stab-melt still gives you a chance to live.
The problems with Filoni, and why I've always thought he's a bit over-rated by fans: 1) Filoni writes in simple sentences almost exclusively, so the dialog sounds like it was written for a Little Golden Book. 2) He doesn't actually care that much about doing the work of characterization or character development, he just has a simple, unimaginative plot with a few minor twists and makes the characters do whatever moves the plot forward. 3) His directing/editing leaves weirdly long pauses between every line of dialog--particularly when the dialog swaps between characters--so everyone seems slow in the head.
@@masteryoda7207 True, but Clone Wars also had some very bad episodes, especially in the middle years of its run. Perhaps it all depends on who's supervising him, and who's on the team backing him up?
I didn't even realize Ashoka released yet. Five years ago I would have watched it the second it came out. Now, I simply couldn't care less. Congratulations Disney, you have my apathy.
The force awakens was the death of the franchise. Only the wise saw it coming immediately. I remember watching it, and coming back from the movie heartbroken. I went on youtube and watched other viewers' rants and screams of hatred at the movie and smiled at how beautiful it was that others in this world could see the travesty that the movie was. I told people I knew shortly after watching the movie that it was ranked #1 as the worst film ever made in human history. My argument took into account both the quality of the script as well as the budget that the producers had to work with. Some say that The Last Jedi was worse. The Last Jedi was no surprise to me. It was a desecration of the corpse that was left from the first movie, and nothing more or less. The Mandalorian was a beautiful requiem and should be respected for that, but it did not revive the franchise. The franchise is dead.
"Only the wise." Oh, get off your high horse. I agree that Disney have sucked the soul out of the franchise, but there's no need to be so holier-than-thou about it. I actually thought TFA was pretty decent for what it was, but I didn't like that trilogy as a whole.
Personally, I feel like you should make a series that anyone can get into and not have to look at any prior projects to understand who these characters are or what the fuck is happening
@@jBread28 Andor was great. You don't need to have seen Rogue One to get what's going on. Mando relies on everyone having seen all the films, and Book of Boba Fett to understand what's happening. The resolution to his shit 2 season journey happened in another show!
@@arkhamwarden1205 Meant Mando S1 specifically, all you really need is to have watched all 6 prior films and have some grasp on what a Mandalorian is (even then not really since it's the cult Mandalorians not the usual ones).
Honestly at this point, videos like this that break down and criticize thus garbage with memes interspliced are infinitely more entertaining than the shows themselves. There should only be a handful of people watching this garbage for the sole purpose of making videos like this and the rest of us will just consume this content and not give any viewership for Disney or the other mega corps
Never really liked Sabine, she came off as someones OC mandalorian with her hot topic esque armor and being able to wield a light saber. The fact that she has been retconned to being force sensitive, meaning she will likely become a mandalorian jedi,now makes it even more obvious that she is someone's OC.
Star Wars is an overcooked turkey at thanksgiving that no one wants to eat but because it is all they have, and they liked all the previous thanksgiving dinners, they will still sit at the table and slop it up anyways, thinking about the better times where it was cooked right.
It’s actually sad what happened to Dave Filoni. He was one of the biggest reasons the clone wars was so good and now he’s been reduced to someone who uses half the effort for double the price.
It looks to me that Filoni has “gone to the dark side.” They can’t make good Star Wars so they will retcon Legends they tried to toss away to try to save their asses.
to be fair. he also had lucas and 1 other guy who did most of the heavy lifting on clone wars.... remember rebels was filoni's baby where he was the one in charge and rebels was not very good... rebels also added fucking time travel into star wars so Ashoka wouldnt die.... his writing has always been rather bad. even in clone wars, remember in revenge of the sith its heavily implied dooku has not seen obi-wan or anakin since attack of the clones.... yet in clone wars they fight every 3 episodes or something lol..
@@ninvusoogoar6098Also in RotS it's heavily implied that Grievous hadn't met either Anakin or Obi. But Grievous fights Obi like it's his day job or something. Seriously though, Filoni mishandled Grievous just about as bad as Disney did my poor buddy Boba.
Why didn’t anyone do that? Why didn’t maul? Why didn’t palpatine? Such a stupid argument. If your looking for an explanation for all these things, i would guess it’s a mutual respect thing not to mutilate the body of the opponent
@@oXRaptorzXo sith only respect power, they delve into their hatred and anger to fight their opponents. They rarely respect them when they defeat them, in fact they have disdain for anyone too weak to beat them. The same thing applies to Maul although he was toying with Kenobi and Jinn in his arrogance, something Sidious despised in him. I disagree with Maul surviving his injury too, although as he's a Zabrak there is room to bullshit his physiology. Palpatine did, Anakin did and Vader did too. Even Obi-wan used a slash attack on Anakin. It makes even less sense when you factor in the force and their ability to sense it in others. They could easily tell whether their enemy is killed or wounded. In the end it's down to plot armour rather than practicality and it's too silly for my tastes.
You just know that after 8 weeks nothing really significant will have happened and we'll be back to square one like all the other individual character series. 8 weeks of going through the motions for didly squat.
It had problems, (like showrunners not knowing she was a padawan, never a knight, and her outrunning a phuking nuke, on foot, after it went off.) but it was good enough to continue watching. My biggest gripe is the fights look like ballet dancing.
I feel people don't understand that getting stab by a lightsaber is not the same as getting stab by a sword because 1 lightsaber is extremely hot so when it enters your body, your inside is cooked and boiled
The lightsaber stab that Sabine received should have been used as a tool for character development. It could have been something she has to slowly recover from, a constant reminder of her failure and weakness every time she trains and feels it ache with pain. But slowly, as she actually WORKS to get better at using the force and fighting with a lightsaber, her wound would also heal to symbolize her growth and moving away from the past. Eventually, by the end of the show when there will inevitably be a final battle, she would have grown enough as a fighter and force user that she would be able to beat the Sith characters, contrasting on her defeat in the first episode and reflecting on all her progress as a character. But of course, why have actual character development when we can have generic strong girlboss? I thought of this in only a few minutes while lying in bed. How professional writers cannot think of this removes my hope for Disney.
Of course, this doesn’t remove the fact that surviving a lightsaber stab to the gut is outrageously stupid in the first place, but at least they would actually use this wound for the plot and to build up her character. It wouldn’t just be some useless thing to move the plot forward and quickly end a fight scene that would have definitely ended with somebody (Sabine) dying.
Bruh, you don't come back from a lightsaber stab wound in the torso. By all accounts of internalized logic that has been used since the inception of this franchise, she should be dead. There is no recovery. Hell if they were going to just handwave it entirely it begs the question why even bother showing a character getting impaled by a lightsaber if they're going to shake it off like a fucking DBZ character? Just idiotic.
@@cooljim1376 Totally agree, but we all know that Disney isn’t about to kill off a girl boss. If we lived in a perfect world then Disney would know how lightsabers worked, but they don’t so I’m just trying to compensate for their stupidity and work with it to make a story that’s actually good.
@@discobroccoli198 Once. Then she went back to her tower and didn't bother later in the episode. Ahsoka goes to the tower and there's a sheer look of death on the cats face. 🤣
I think what bothers me most about Ahsoka is the fact that they have some actors and actresses that I really like in this show, they're just used poorly to terribly. I like Rosario Dawson (go watch her in Clerks II), I love David Tennant (my second favorite Doctor), Ray Stevenson (RIP he was dynamite as the Punisher), Mary Elizabeth Winstead (Scott Pilgrim Vs The World), hell they even had the great Clancy Brown (Hadley from Shawshank Redemption and the Kurgan from Highlander) and they did absolutely nothing with the actors. Also, were they not able to get the rights to "Sabotage" for the scene with the gender studies major on the speeder bike? Another question: Wasn't this supposed to be a movie at one point? Because I remember this being announced as a movie.
True geeks know Clancy Brown as Rawhide, one of Buckaroo Banzai's Hong Kong Cavaliers! Hell, they even had an oscillation overthruster in Sabine's apartment!
Thank goodness for the VLC speedwatch feature 😂 Because the first two episodes were molasses! 54 minutes and most of it is silence, watching, and 'look at the pretty backgrounds and wallpaper scenes'. Mandalorian and even Boba Fett, and omg even WILLOW felt more alive than Ashoka. ALSO: DAVID TENANT WAS THE ROBOT????? 😮 7:30 Sabine still manages to overshadow Ashoka in her own show. 😂 9:52 💀💀💀💀 11:37 omg great minds think alike 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Kowalski_5 no it just depends on what you where a fan of cause in all the books there where many more force users the same for the games before Disney even bought it
@@davidfrederiksen3185 I accept the works of the creator. And for our purposes here,and as a guilty pleasure, I will include Rogue One. When I bring Disney into the discussion, it isn't to mock. Like Disney the consumer wants more. And more leads to inferior quality. And there is never enough. Star Wars was a story dealing with a relationship/s. And it was satisfactorily concluded. Not withstanding Lucas's blueprint for a sequel trilogy, which I assume remains only in his imagination. Because I doubt we'll see it.
Fun fact: Ahsoka Tano was actually co-created by George Lucas himself. And he told Dave Filoni that she supposed to during Order 66 (since most of the Jedi died in ROTS), but Dave didn't listen to George and kept Ahsoka alive as long as he possible can.
And it would've been fine is Ahsoka died in that duel with Vader in season 2 of the Rebels. But no, Filoni went full Barry Allen on Star Wars space and time just to save his waifu.
@@OverLorD768 Exactly. I was going to mention that also, but it was so long as is! Ahsoka’s fight with Darth Vader in Rebels would’ve been a perfect sendoff to her character, and honor George. Instead, she’s alive much after the Original Trilogy, now?!
@@mattimusprimal637 she's alive after Sequels as well, since Disney confirmed that so they wouldn't piss off Filoni, I mean, fans even more. Just don't ask where she was during all that time and why she, being the oldest jedi, didn't bothered to teach Rey. And don't ask what she was doing during the Original Trilogy, and why Yoda refused to acknowledge her existance, calling Luke the last jedi before passing away. Cause, you know, this is the way. Filoni way.
@@asteriasheria2053I agree. BUT I also felt that Anakin having an apprentice between episode 2 and 3 weird. I prefer the original clone wars dynamic where its just Anakin and Obi-Wan.😅
09:07 In addtion, she doesn't just leave, she disobeys instruction for no reason but the question should be asked as to why Ashoka didn't tell her that she was nearly killed trying to retrieve this map and there are dangerous people looking it.
LOL! The comparison of hallway scenes killed me. :D Vader is deflecting the blaster shots, C´Baoth from Wish holds the saber and the enemies are deliberately shooting at it.
I wonder what happened? Clone Wars Ahsoka was always quippy. Granted shes older and more depressed now (canonically kinda legitimate) but that does not make for an entertaining character. Also fuck these magical item search quests
Ahsoka is not some shopping girl she has been in a religion since she was a baby so has Sabine and herra has been a rebel for most of her life fighting like her father
Literally had the same thought about the characters - lifeless and dull. I wasn’t sold on Ahsoka on the Mandalorian and this show certainly has not done anything to change that. I am a fan of Rebels and honestly when the second episode was over I was really disappointed. I felt so let down. I really had hopes for this show. I love Ahsoka in the Clone Wars and Rebels. But this is shite. She was so adamant about not being a Jedi and now all of a sudden a Jedi with a padawan. Like you said with no force user ability at all. Then Sabine gets skewered and just gets up the next day like its a scratch. How did Dave come up with such great moments in Rebels and then put out this crap? I don’t get it.
06:49 You picked up on everything I did, except for Ahsoka cutting additional holes in the ground. This is stupid because now what she has gone a created 3 entries points for the droids instead of just using one as a choke point. In addition with those 2 droids falling into the cavern below, why didn't she kill them instead of allowing them to climb back up. And why is a map containing thrawn's location buried in an ancient underground temple that looks like it hasn't been disturbed in centuries? why is the ball itself incase in someone kind of carbon? That "carbon" looks like it could have been something else that has decayed over time, which then asks the question how old is this map, if we are to assume that thrawn as kicking around during the OT, how would recent data such as thrawns location be added to it if this thing might have been buried for centuries
1. This is post OT not during. 2. The hole thing isn’t a valid argument because she didn’t need to use a choke point as she outmatched all the droids easily. 3. You don’t know what the maps made of. 4. The map leads to a planet. Not Thrawn. Thrawn is probably on that planet
I hate that Kk has cut off Luke Skywalker's balls and they at Disney forced Ahsoka to grow a weiner! Not only that but to add insult to injury they basically called qui-gon-jinn a nancy-boy and implied that he was Weak and Powerless against being impaled by lightsaber which makes complete sense given that getting stabbed by a literal beam of superheated energy would instantly melt your internal organs making it impossible for you to live unless you're some kind of weird alien that can survive with organs in their head or something. However you look at it Kathleen Kennedy and some others are like the real world manifestation of evil because they have personally assassinated many good characters with compelling stories and interesting backgrounds, characters who have been portrayed by very talented men, beloved actors. The two top actors that I can think of would be Liam Neison and Mark Hamill characters that they've portrayed are numerous yet each performance given in my personal opinion was nigh Flawless and spoke to a degree of Godly Talent, for their characters to receive the kind of treatment they have in recent years I think it akin to personal insults to the actors themselves!
None of these women have the gravitas to pull this off, even if they were given the absolute best story and dialogue. Which they haven't. It's an ensemble that somehow manages to be less than the sum of its parts.
I remember the actress playing the title character repeating "Yaaaas yassss she be a leader, yasss" like this weird power hungry female mantra was supposed to be the applauded norm now
I think I'm noticing a pattern with this show... The bad guys are all white and blonde/light haired. The good guys are all black, green, or purple haired.
All black, green, or purple haired. Ahsoka is orange. Being played by a black actress doesn’t make her black. Hera is green cause she’s a twilek and she’s been green since her introduction in rebels. Sabine has also had purple hair always in rebels. What is your point lmao.
11:32 Why is Asoka only attacked by the dude and battle droid at the shipyard. It was made clear that the entire shipyard was filled with ex imperials which mean there could be hundreds or thousands of ex imperials.
The entire shipyard? No it was just the members of that one operation, and idk about you, but if a bunch of my allies were caught then I saw two lightsaber wielding warriors fighting I wouldn’t want to go near them. They even stated that the people weren’t loyal they just got paid more
@@oXRaptorzXo Ok I was going to ignore this comment because of the stupid, but fuck it lets play. 2 x republic high value targets enter an area that is being used for classified imperial project. Upon approach to the administration area out of the approx 50 people that they drove passed, they are being eyeballed by at least 8 workers probable imperials during which The administrator says "You will find ex-imperials in all levels of govt". This is not including the 3 x known imperials in the command center. After the battle we can see 11 people being arrested none of them seem to be any of the 8 x workers that were acting as spotters before. We can make an assumption that there is possibly between 10 - 20 ex imperials in the vicinity of classified imperial project and they were almost certainly tasked as their main priority to ensure the completion of the project. 2 x republic members are a threat. Battle commences, republic members are now split up which increases imperial chances to neutralise the threat. Kill the "general" on her way back to her ship, regroup and backtrack and overwhelm the "jedi" by superior numbers. 2 x HVT dead, project completed. Job done.
@@Bootyhunter70 Sure okay and you really analyzed this deeply but your ignoring the fact that these people aren’t loyal except for maybe the command center guys. It is stated that they are loyal to whoever pays more. Which means that when it comes down to it, they aren’t gonna risk their lives to fight someone or stop a rebel general or Jedi. And doing such a thing even if successful would lead to new republic retaliation.
you know how many people would be left dead if they wanted them to be, when they get ran through you simply flick your wrist to finish cutting them in half. disney has turned lightsabers into nerf foam swords, int he movies they were leaving cuts on peoples faces like a traditional knife
Idk, Ahsoka was pretty expressive when she crossed her arms for the 100th time.
Imagine the level of skill, and writing that requires... "Fold your arms every 5 minutes" 😂
"Nothing Ahsoka does matters at all because the Palpatines win in the end." So True, nothing Disney does with any of their Star Wars shows matter because in the end everything all the Rebels did and died for in the original films gets undone in the Disney trilogy, along with the destruction of our favorite characters.
In fact, this phrase explains, perhaps, why I - but, I guess, other people too - can't see the products of the Disney era (except for Rogue One, which has its own reason for existing, and Andor, which I haven't seen) as belonging to the star wars universe.
I'm not sure how to explain it: I enjoyed Clone Wars a lot, but I find it hard to include it in the world created by Lucas. Episode I, II and III despite their flaws and differences from the original trilogy, I conceive them as fundamental pieces of the Star Wars macro plot.
Instead The Mandalorian has (had?) as its ultimate goal lead to Snoke (at least, so it seemed to me). Ahsoka seems to want to arrive at the birth of the first order ... in short, everything seems to point towards a trilogy done badly, and born only to make money, without a real project behind it.
This is my same problem with House of the Dragon for GOT.
Yea
even the power of strong independence mary sue still cant change the history xD
@@aadd2935 thank you for the advice.
Love how Qui Gon Jin was the only character to die by being impaled with a lightsaber. Now they have been degraded into a Glorified Laser pointer.
don't forget Han Solo.
Oh wait maybe it was the fall the killed him. right? .... right? 🤨🤨
@@hellraizer44 Is Han really dead? A fall didn't kill Maul or Palpatine.
Two words: plot armor
@@scockery"No one's ever truly gone." - Jake Skywalker
And Agen Kolar. And Fifth Brother. And Admiral Trench.
Remember that Ashokas sabers were so hot that it cut through 6 inch stone in a matter of seconds, but somehow Sabine or all the other people except Qui Gon survive being impaled by a saber. Why are y’all still giving this company money?
Quigon lasted a while during the duel after he was stabbed. Instead of laying there, Sabine was brought to a hospital immediately
@@oXRaptorzXoEveryone seems to ignore that when bringing it up for some reason.
@@endosaurus1404 because they are blinded by hate
@@oXRaptorzXo A true statement. If they can't find literally anything good in the Star Wars produced now, then why are they even still here.
@@oXRaptorzXo
I see you keep bringing up the same retarded point thinking you're a super genius, so I'm just going to debunk your idiotic copy pasta:
1. The real reason Qui-Gon lasted as long as he did is for narrative reasons, to tell Obi-Wan before he dies "to train the boy" which is something every movie, show, book, or game has done since ever.
2. The time from Qui-Gon getting stabbed, Obi-Wan waiting for the shield to go down, and then dueling Maul lasted exactly two minutes. Qui-Gon could have been holding on to life using the force, but even if this was the case he was fading fast. He had enough time to instruct Obi-Wan to take Anakin in as his apprentice and immediately expired after the fact. There was no force healing, no time travel, no visit to the emergency room, he had 2 minutes of life and that was it.
So what you want everyone to believe is that Sabine was found, immediately taken from bumfuck no where to an ER, and had a lightsaber wound under the breast and directly into her right lung immediately remedied within the timeframe of two minutes? You are a goddamn moron if you think Qui-Gon holding on for 2 minutes before dying to a lightsaber wound to the stomach is at all similar to this situation lmao.
By your dip shit logic Qui-Gon was in a palace with more than likely the highest end medical droids in the event that someone as important as Naboo royalty would end up sick or injured and didn't survive. Sabine gets stabbed in the torso in the middle of nowhere completely alone and no one could possibly reach her, but she lives.
Promptly go fuck yourself you stupid tit.
The surviving being stabbed with the lightsaber really needs to stop. If that blade is as hot as we are told it is it should be like instant death. No one should be able to survive that let alone the gaping hole in their body.
Quigon lasted five minutes while obiwan fought maul. Sabine was brought to a hospital is less time then that.
Lighsabers can melt though metal and cut rocks like paper. It would litterally leave a crater of dead, burned flesh with every blood vessels and cells around the wound eseentially being nuked immediately. It would sever tons of key blood vessels and immediately burst or cauterize them, leading to gigantic loss of blood pressure all around the body and death... You would be left it a gigantic cater of burned flesh, necrosis and blood vessels no longer delivering blood all over the body. And that's not even accounting for the fact there's key organs like lungs / kidneys/intenstines and stomach in the area that would probably also be severly damaged in the process. I mean even stabbing someone through with a sharp metal sword would probably kill them, but we're supposed to believe a beam of pure plasma would leave a small burn marks and no lasting damage. B.S
Vader is hit many times by lightsaber and walks it off almost every character loses an arm in star wars. So by what you say star wars in itself is stupid
@@davidfrederiksen3185 lol all those close calls Vader had between Episode III and IV is insane.
@davidfrederiksen3185 how is getting hit in the shoulder with armour and robotic limbs the same as being impaled in your guts. People say anything on the net😣🤣
I hate that lightsabers have essentially been boiled down to a glowing baseball bat that does no damage at all, the worst offender was in the kenobi series where it bounces several times off a storm trooper.
Agreed. Said baseball thing works in Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor because that's a video game and it can't be that easy. But it seems the movies and shows took this literally and made the lightsabers useless
@@lucifermagne7458 the fact you bring up fallen order as a direct comparison is interesting because it goes deeper than just the lightsabers behaving the same way, the plot & character arc in kenobi & fallen order are almost the exact same, it’s actually crazy. The way he infiltrated the inquisition base is the same, the breaking of the glass is the same there’s so many plot points and beats that are the exact same
@@lucifermagne7458 & also would love to see a Star Wars game where the combat is somewhat similar to for honour, kingdom come deliverance etc where it’s mostly about parrying attacks and when you do land an attack it’s fatal to the opponent.
The Empire Strikes Back set a bad precedent.
Vader should have been cut in half.
@@bruhdon4748 it's good in Fallen Order because those things were new and cool. But when you do the same thing in a completely different show, it becomes bland. If Kenobi had done it first, it'd be better. Kenobi would still be a piece of shit show, but those specific comparisons wouldn't have felt used too much
If he lets her speak, his stupidity, will leak out into the writing more so than it already has😂😂😂
Why do you think he is stupid?
@diomedes7971 Mary poppins leia flashbacks
Someone should explain to Lucasfilm that maps are used to find locations - not people.
...And some locations are where people are??? I understand you're upset but wtf is this point
@@superhippo7564 the point is a Mguffin Map doesn't track people like your Phone.
@@ArgentWolf95it’s not tracking Thrawn it’s tracking the planet he’s on.
Thrawn is at the location of the maps destination, there’s probably some significance to the planet
People can move, locations don't. I think that would be self evident. @@superhippo7564
There is a big, big difference between writing for an animated series and writing for live action, and this has become painfully apparent post Clone Wars and Rebels.
who let you out of your mom's basement with that hairline. wear a hat for the rest of us
there's more stories in one episode of clone wars than in 3 of ahsoka
Lets not pretend rebels or clone wars was any good anyway lol.
Clone wars is 2 decent episodes because dooku apears in them then 20 fillers . Repeat for 6 seassons and you got clone wars.
Rebels is a joke that dropped even in the mesh departament which made the animation look horrible
Also wasn’t he not an actual writer for the clone wars except for a couple random episodes. He was more the creative head then an actual writer. Which really shows that he’s not actually a professional writer.
I feel like fans are afraid of admitting how bad it is because they hold Filoni in such high regard; but let's be honest, his best work was on Clone Wars when he was part of a big creative team and not in charge. Mandalorian is a mixed bag, ranging from dull to good to hot trash.
They’ll come around once it’s finished. It’s only downhill for Filoni and co. from here on out.
@@crazyralph6386Agreed. Except the hill is looking less like a slope and more like a cliff
@@crazyralph6386Eh, a lot of people do genuinely like these first two episodes.
I've never been big on Filoni myself and I found this show so far to be decent. But it seems these days one has to be either baying for blood or sucking Disney's dick, middle-ground takes seem forbidden nowadays.
His best work was Clone wars, and that was when he was with George Lucas lmao; When he was given free reign in season 7, you easily see how he blunders it; spends half a season on twin sisters no one gives damn about, but the finale was pretty good
@@fools5271the Clone wars have many mid episodes George made many mid movies but people still love him
Lightsabers these days. Basically only fit for spreading butter on a slice of toast.
After watching CLONE WARS, REBELS and now THIS, I am convinced Dave has a life size sex robot of Ahsoka in his office. Not Rosario Dawson Ahsoka, but the CLONE WARS Ahsoka. Nahmeen? 😅
FBI open up
And she was a good friend...
He kinda has the smug of someone who visited Jeffrey's country clubs on those islands
Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano?
100% 😂
I would dare say that if you are intimately versed in Rebels and Clone Wars, this series will be extremely aggravating to watch.
What does it say about a writer who wont even respect his own past works when building off of them? My suspicion is that Dave Filoni didn't have as much writing credit in Clone Wars and Rebels as we have all been led to believe. I think he's been carried by more talented people and we are witnessing him on his own for the first time.
This is just like watching Bryke fail with Legend of Korra all over again.
I am very familiar with both shows and have enjoyed these 2 episodes so far. In fact, most fans have. Idk how this channel got recommended to me but people are nut cases if they think this shows is as bad as they say it is. Yall trippin, especially considering recent stuff like Mando s3 (was good but picked up pace like the last 2 episodes), obi, and boba. Dave could've used a little extra help with writing but really it's not that bad. Honestly star wars fans are the worst people to please
@@mrgermanvono35 I agree. I've watched both shows beforehand and enjoyed these past two episodes. Sad to see some people just sh*t on this with no constructive criticism. Also I totally agree that Star Wars fans are just the worst to please.
@@barlosjimbo5200well these channels make money off the hate so not having on Disney especially when there is majority woman Leeds could hurt their Salary
@barlosjimbo5200 yeah. I've definitely seen reviews of the show with good constructive criticism but also worthwhile praise.
A lot of Fandom are hard to please, but start wars especially so. Lately it's been warranted since our expectations have not been met when there has been some really good stuff recently, then we get Bobf and obi wan..
It feels touched by the dead hand that is Kathleen Kennedy. "Basically, everything needs more strong female characters, make the men weak and feeble and ideally kill them off as soon as possible, especially the old white guys. The Force is Wamen". Thanks Kathleen
How many times have you written a comment like this in the past 5 years, cos it reads like "copypasta"?
KK isn't the problem, just a symptom. The disease will still be there when Disney can get rid of her.
To be fair, the old white man in this show is amazing. I really like Baylan Skoll, he was fun when had his moments. The sad thing is that the actor actually did pass away. I would have loved to see more of him.
In regards to male presence in the story, we can assume that Ezra and Thrawn will be in the story soon and at least Thrawn will (hopefully) be an important and strong presence.
Nah, this show reeks of Filoni's c*m socks, he literally made his OC be the most important character in Star Wars and responsible for half of the events
Nothing like that has happened in this show.
The most hillarious thing is that Ahsoka is not even the main character of her show
Bait and switch
A common theme lately.
I'm fed up with this MC sidelined cliche
and ?
Sucks cause I really wanted an Ahsoka show since the character was really badass in the Mandalorian... But alas it's clearly live action Rebels, which I never cared about, with the main character being Sabine which I find insufferable.
I was actually fairly invested in the Saber fight between two females. Since there wasn't a man that would otherwise obviously be defeated, Disney had to knowingly decide that a woman would lose on-screen.
Rough day on-set😂
But she was fine afterwards, lmao.
@@jonbaxter2254 but of course. She just flexed really hard.
Woman ☕
😂😂😂
Lololololololo
The droid is actually showing more emotions 😭 (he can show emotion by moving/rotating his eyelids)
Damn even robots have more feelings, then the protagonist
That is saying a lot.
I was thinking the same thing😂
Dave Filoni's stories always feel like the pen and paper rpg stories that I came up with on the fly when the guys wanted to play a game unexpectedly. You're here, this person contacts you, you have to find this and then defeat the boss.
A more important question is why does an ruined ancient temple that could be thousands of years old have a gold sphere with a map to modern day Thrawn?
It's not a map to thrawn, it's a map to where he was taken by the purgil. The implication is the that the night sisters tracked the purgil routes between galaxies. So they found a map that shows where the Purgil would have gone.
@@mrgermanvono35 I supposed that makes slightly more sense, but if its a map of different routes the night sisters took how could they identify which one Thrawn followed? Do they just travel each one infinitely until they find him? Better yet what's the guarantee he's even still there? I still think its just as dumb as both Luke and Palpatine having maps to reach their secret hideouts when both never wanted to be found.
@@j.avance9031I mean that guy just made the purgill thing up. Really it’s just a map to a planet. I’m assuming there’s something significant about the planet and that’s why Thrawn is there specifically.
@@oXRaptorzXo Lol so we know the planet he's on that REALLY narrows down the search radius. XD
@@oXRaptorzXohave you watched any of the shows with ahsoka. Thrawn is not just there cause he wants to he was moved ther after rebels along with another Jedi and everyone wants to find them because a Ezra is a Jedi and have friends. B because thrawn is the smartest character in star wars maybe only second to palpatine
When you look at Dave's stories you realize that he doesn't watch any movies or media outside of star wars.
So different from George.
He really loves star wars is that really such a bad thing
@@davidfrederiksen3185 When your job involves being a writer and director, yes, that's a bad thing. A very bad thing, in fact. Star Wars under George Lucas took inspirations from many sources like Akira Kurosawa (The Hidden Fortress), John Ford (The Searchers), Fritz Lang (Metropolis), and even used Leni Riefenstahl's infamous propaganda film, Triumph of the Will, as inspiration for the storm trooper marches. Many of the greatest pieces of art were influenced by other things, especially in the cases of film or television. If Lucasfilm wants Star Wars to stay alive, they need to go back to the well for inspiration (Kurosawa and Ford would be great starting points as they made MANY great films that are highly influential to this very day), as well as fire a number of bumbling hacks running the company. As a writer and director, Filoni needs to study others in his field of work. He could learn a lot that could greatly benefit the franchise he wants to create for, rather than let it become stagnant and devolve completely into dreadful vanity/ideological projects.
@@davidfrederiksen3185 It is if he has a limited range of cinematic references.
@@davidfrederiksen3185 the bad thing is he doesn't love any other movies. Even when you look at clone wars making off videos George was educating his team by showing them classic movies like Seven Samurai etc.
And what is the only thing from outside of star wars Filloni sometimes put in his productions?
Nods to Kurosawa.
The point is you can't be a creative storyteller if youd don't know many interesting stories. You need to learn new things in art to get some inspiration and tell something that won't be repetetive
I was really enjoying it until Sabine survived being stabbed. I mean really. If it’s not gonna kill her, then why was it even done???
She was stabbed on the right side of her abdomen. Nothing much there to damage to kill her.
@@Funknwanker sure if you’re stabbed with a regular sword. But it’s a lightsaber. It can melt steel.
@@ijustwantedausernameyou do know that almost every character in star wars have had a lightsaber hit them right
@@ijustwantedausernameand if it made youer body/blood boil the Anakin obi wan Luke be dead almost at the start of their adventure
@@davidfrederiksen3185 yeah. Ok. I had to look at it differently. A cut off hand doesn’t kill you. A cauterized stab wound wouldn’t kill you either.
I’m old enough to remember when Ahsoka, Sabine, and Hera all had distinct personalities. Ahsoka showed more emotion in Rebels than she ever did in this show.
I'm old enough to remember stunning visuals and physical puppetry
I'm old enough to remember when Star Wars used to actually be good.
I’m old enough to accept what we are given and not cry like a little bitch
thats because she's been through a lot since Rebels
I’m old enough to remember when people didn’t judge an entire show based on 2 episodes and when Star Wars fans weren’t a bunch of salty losers crying about the most meaningless stuff 😂
The way Reaper verbally executes this filth never fails to entertain. Keep fighting the good fight man.
I’m going to end up watching the entire series through Reapers videos, and i can’t wait.
thatt is the reason i watch his videos.
AWFUL.
This dude is unhappy in life.
@@RogerZouljust like you
Rather than build a meaningful character from the ground up, they just have this Swiss Army knife character who just has all fucking skills that are completely inconsistent in other projects where the character appears
Who are you referring to?
@@mexifry222 The fan fiction character Ahsoka.
@@Vespyr_ahsoka is an amazing fighter and character.
@@Vespyr_you mean one of the most liked characters that has been used for years by star wars hate channels to prove they actually like woman
@@davidfrederiksen3185 Nobody cares about Ahsoka outside of a small audience, that's why the show is bombing
RIP Ray Stevenson
He will 100% cry to one of the Ubermensch female characters in one of the episodes.
Yep, yet another death from
“causes unknown”?
@@andreas956Dumbass
@@discobroccoli198 How about you cry about it
@@andreas956 You’re the one that’s crying because there’s girls in Star Wars😂
That title crawl looks like it's from a PowerPoint 😂
wait they gave her the force?.... didnt rebels go out of their way to tell us she does not have the force while kanan was training her to use the dark saber????
I know you are all retarded, It is very clearly stated in the Second episode that Sabine isn't force sensitive.
She doesn’t have the force…
They didn’t give her the force. At the very most she can hear voices while she sleeps. The droid trainer robot said she had the lowest force sensitivity out of every Jedi he ever trained
@@oXRaptorzXo she had zero sensitivity to begin with.... Giving her any is a huge issue
@@ninvusoogoar6098 No it’s not. It’s not like you can just sense force sensitivity in anyone anyways, even Vader couldn’t sense Leia and she’s far stronger than Sabine. It actually explains her picking up saber fighting so fast in rebels and it doesn’t change anything cause it’s so minor
I wonder if we've been seeing belly stabs because they can't have characters lose limbs or something
Smug feminists = default "acting" face from now on.
What's sad is, i've seen dawson in other movies and she is a good actress. I think the director told her to act like a plank so the character seems "badass". These people are confusing badass with boring.
Exactly. They want to be like men but somehow men being acting stoic is better. When it's women, lately, they're like a plank of wood and somehow come off as cheap and fake
Bro she is stoic. That is the whole point. She is supposed to be a wise (not)Jedi Master. She is not supposed to an emotional teenager.
@@exoticredtadpole2713How can Ahsoka be a jedi master when the person who trained her barely even made it to the rank of Jedi Knight and was still being trained himself. Ahsoka is FAR from a Jedi master, she's not even a Jedi anymore.
@@infinite6339Bruh there are no jedi around right now except Luke. You are seriously getting pissed over the semantics. Like in my personal opinion she has surpassed the jedi knighthood and is now the realm of jedi master if Order 66/leaving the order did not happen.
@@exoticredtadpole2713 Are we not forgetting the fact that she left the Jedi because she was framed?
She doesn't even follow there teachings 😭
Imagine if the writers actually had the balls to kill off sabine in that episode. It would have changed the entire context and tone of the whole series, and given Ashoka an actual reason to become invested in the plot other than "empire bad" and added some emotional stakes
Instead i turned it off the moment i saw her sit up in that hospital bed
@godisdead69420Somebody get that girl a Vespa!
What? Noooooo not Sabine. My favorite character. She can't diiiiiieeee.
@godisdead69420 how is she suddenly a Jedi?
From what I recall of rebels only Kanan and Ezra (In the ghost crew or whatever they called themselves) were the force sensitive ones and she was a mandalorian, the closest she got to Jedi training was Kanan training her to use a lightsaber.
You'd think Maul would detect it at least
@craigtucker7989 she's not. Ahsoka only really seemed to have trained her in jedi ways/lights aber combat. But already acknowledged her lack of force skills. Sabine is a mandalorian and probably looked to get more ways of training. We will probably find out more
@@Eugene_Blackthe droid in the show said that she had the lowest force sensitivity out of every Jedi he’s every trained (and he trained younglings for hundreds of years)
10:23 it's even worse for Luke because the lightsaber stab he died from travelled across the universe to kill him... And he literally turned to dust after like a second... He didn't even get enough time to fall to the ground before death came to him...
😂
The droid definitely has more emotions cos he keeps rolling his eyes at the sh*t acting happening around him 😂
So they are basically telling kids that getting stabbed by a knife isn't so dangerous...
I dont get why the sith apprentice cant just decapitate sabine after being stab-melt in the abdomen to make sure she doesnt survive because apparently in disney starwars, being stab-melt still gives you a chance to live.
Probably because Ahsoka was about to pull up
Just force choke her lmfao.
And people ship Sabine with this psycho?!
The problems with Filoni, and why I've always thought he's a bit over-rated by fans:
1) Filoni writes in simple sentences almost exclusively, so the dialog sounds like it was written for a Little Golden Book.
2) He doesn't actually care that much about doing the work of characterization or character development, he just has a simple, unimaginative plot with a few minor twists and makes the characters do whatever moves the plot forward.
3) His directing/editing leaves weirdly long pauses between every line of dialog--particularly when the dialog swaps between characters--so everyone seems slow in the head.
This is so spot on, are you Filoni?
Yeah, it's weird that it's like that with his live-action stuff yet he's written some amazing animated episodes.
@@masteryoda7207 True, but Clone Wars also had some very bad episodes, especially in the middle years of its run. Perhaps it all depends on who's supervising him, and who's on the team backing him up?
I almost spat out my supper when you said "she might reveal the possibility that Ezra Miller might still be alive" LOL!
I didn't even realize Ashoka released yet. Five years ago I would have watched it the second it came out. Now, I simply couldn't care less. Congratulations Disney, you have my apathy.
Ahsoka went from loveable annoying to legendary to unloveable annoying.
What a journey!
The force awakens was the death of the franchise. Only the wise saw it coming immediately. I remember watching it, and coming back from the movie heartbroken. I went on youtube and watched other viewers' rants and screams of hatred at the movie and smiled at how beautiful it was that others in this world could see the travesty that the movie was. I told people I knew shortly after watching the movie that it was ranked #1 as the worst film ever made in human history. My argument took into account both the quality of the script as well as the budget that the producers had to work with. Some say that The Last Jedi was worse. The Last Jedi was no surprise to me. It was a desecration of the corpse that was left from the first movie, and nothing more or less. The Mandalorian was a beautiful requiem and should be respected for that, but it did not revive the franchise. The franchise is dead.
the wise knew it was over the second disney bought star wars and decanonized the EU...
"Only the wise." Oh, get off your high horse. I agree that Disney have sucked the soul out of the franchise, but there's no need to be so holier-than-thou about it. I actually thought TFA was pretty decent for what it was, but I didn't like that trilogy as a whole.
If you think mandalorian was anything but mediocre at best you aren't that wise
Incredible how anyone can think the Force Awakens was any more of a death knell for Star Wars than the Phantom Menace.
Died well before Force Awakens.
Personally, I feel like you should make a series that anyone can get into and not have to look at any prior projects to understand who these characters are or what the fuck is happening
There's a few shows like that already (Andor, Mando etc). Ahsoka's meant to be a continuation.
@@jBread28 really they failed right out the gate. The only thing saving them at this point is the wonderful performance by the late Ray Stevenson
@@jBread28 Andor was great. You don't need to have seen Rogue One to get what's going on. Mando relies on everyone having seen all the films, and Book of Boba Fett to understand what's happening. The resolution to his shit 2 season journey happened in another show!
@@arkhamwarden1205 Meant Mando S1 specifically, all you really need is to have watched all 6 prior films and have some grasp on what a Mandalorian is (even then not really since it's the cult Mandalorians not the usual ones).
Disney just needs to stop making Star Wars “content”
Flu seems more dangerous than stabbing with Saber 😂😂😂
Honestly at this point, videos like this that break down and criticize thus garbage with memes interspliced are infinitely more entertaining than the shows themselves. There should only be a handful of people watching this garbage for the sole purpose of making videos like this and the rest of us will just consume this content and not give any viewership for Disney or the other mega corps
Guaranteed!
Nah, I'd rather watch something I enjoy.
Just laughing at you hate watchers whining as I shit
Except videos like these are actual trash, like they claim so many other things to be.
Thats what I do, never seen a single Star Wars show.
Never really liked Sabine, she came off as someones OC mandalorian with her hot topic esque armor and being able to wield a light saber. The fact that she has been retconned to being force sensitive, meaning she will likely become a mandalorian jedi,now makes it even more obvious that she is someone's OC.
Don't forget the SJW hair and millennial mannerisms.
She´s the Mary of all Sues who makes Rey look like a great character.
RIP to Ray Stevenson. Such a great actor. Completely wasted in Disney trash.
Every character he has played in star wars so far has been awaome
Awesome
who else did he play?@@davidfrederiksen3185
You saying that really puts things into perspective on how little you actually cared.
Star Wars is an overcooked turkey at thanksgiving that no one wants to eat but because it is all they have, and they liked all the previous thanksgiving dinners, they will still sit at the table and slop it up anyways, thinking about the better times where it was cooked right.
It’s actually sad what happened to Dave Filoni. He was one of the biggest reasons the clone wars was so good and now he’s been reduced to someone who uses half the effort for double the price.
It looks to me that Filoni has “gone to the dark side.”
They can’t make good Star Wars so they will retcon Legends they tried to toss away to try to save their asses.
to be fair. he also had lucas and 1 other guy who did most of the heavy lifting on clone wars.... remember rebels was filoni's baby where he was the one in charge and rebels was not very good... rebels also added fucking time travel into star wars so Ashoka wouldnt die....
his writing has always been rather bad. even in clone wars, remember in revenge of the sith its heavily implied dooku has not seen obi-wan or anakin since attack of the clones.... yet in clone wars they fight every 3 episodes or something lol..
@@josebrown5961 He went years ago
@@ninvusoogoar6098Also in RotS it's heavily implied that Grievous hadn't met either Anakin or Obi. But Grievous fights Obi like it's his day job or something.
Seriously though, Filoni mishandled Grievous just about as bad as Disney did my poor buddy Boba.
Filoni and Favreau are both hacks. Always have been
i've always felt like ahsoka is just an oc that managed to be canon
Why take the lightsaber out very carefully through the entrance wound when you cam just slice it out in any direction?
Maybe she wasnt trying to kill her
Why didn’t anyone do that? Why didn’t maul? Why didn’t palpatine? Such a stupid argument. If your looking for an explanation for all these things, i would guess it’s a mutual respect thing not to mutilate the body of the opponent
@@CollectionLearning. so much for being a dark side force user then. :/
@@oXRaptorzXo sith only respect power, they delve into their hatred and anger to fight their opponents. They rarely respect them when they defeat them, in fact they have disdain for anyone too weak to beat them. The same thing applies to Maul although he was toying with Kenobi and Jinn in his arrogance, something Sidious despised in him. I disagree with Maul surviving his injury too, although as he's a Zabrak there is room to bullshit his physiology.
Palpatine did, Anakin did and Vader did too. Even Obi-wan used a slash attack on Anakin.
It makes even less sense when you factor in the force and their ability to sense it in others. They could easily tell whether their enemy is killed or wounded. In the end it's down to plot armour rather than practicality and it's too silly for my tastes.
You just know that after 8 weeks nothing really significant will have happened and we'll be back to square one like all the other individual character series. 8 weeks of going through the motions for didly squat.
You’re clueless
It had problems, (like showrunners not knowing she was a padawan, never a knight, and her outrunning a phuking nuke, on foot, after it went off.) but it was good enough to continue watching.
My biggest gripe is the fights look like ballet dancing.
The later fights look a bit better judging by the trailers
I honestly enjoyed Ashoka’s character growth in CW, and was one of the better things in Rebels, so seeing this is… disappointing
You do realize she is a mature woman now and not a little ass kid right?
@@Brevski no shit?
@@bcmm1880 then don’t act surprised as to why she is acting different then she was in CW, rebels etc.
@@Brevski you rly don’t understand my comment do you?
@@bcmm1880well the show is very good so far at least of you dont hate anything new in star wars
The Disney Star Wars Strong Women shows will continue until morale improves!
Should these woman in ahsoka suddenly be weak just cause they are woman
There is such thing as a character being too "stoic" and Ashoka is just that.
Stoic was never one of her character traits, which feels so weird for Ahsoka.
@@mattd5240she probably hardened after watching everything she loves being destroyed
So far this show is a beautiful, yet empty candy wrapper.
This is actually a great way to describe the first 2 Episodes of Ahsoka. It´s like we were watching nothing.
While the first Disney SW movie was a polished turd wrapped in a shiny wrapper. Watching that movie accelerated my own writing journey.@@DoubleClefFm
In the last episode of Ahsoka we'll find out that Darth Maul is alive...somehow.
Who knows...maybe even Savage Opress will join him. 😂
Why is ahsoka always wearing a gray couch cover blanket?
Because Rosario is old now and have a grandma figure.
I feel people don't understand that getting stab by a lightsaber is not the same as getting stab by a sword because 1 lightsaber is extremely hot so when it enters your body, your inside is cooked and boiled
It’s not cooked and boiled. It’s sealed by the heat. She got medical attention in minutes
If it boiled just by being in contact with blood every star wars character would have died long ago
@@oXRaptorzXothe shock alone would probably kill her.
@@blw4089 Quigon didn’t die of “shock”
The lightsaber stab that Sabine received should have been used as a tool for character development. It could have been something she has to slowly recover from, a constant reminder of her failure and weakness every time she trains and feels it ache with pain. But slowly, as she actually WORKS to get better at using the force and fighting with a lightsaber, her wound would also heal to symbolize her growth and moving away from the past. Eventually, by the end of the show when there will inevitably be a final battle, she would have grown enough as a fighter and force user that she would be able to beat the Sith characters, contrasting on her defeat in the first episode and reflecting on all her progress as a character. But of course, why have actual character development when we can have generic strong girlboss?
I thought of this in only a few minutes while lying in bed. How professional writers cannot think of this removes my hope for Disney.
Of course, this doesn’t remove the fact that surviving a lightsaber stab to the gut is outrageously stupid in the first place, but at least they would actually use this wound for the plot and to build up her character. It wouldn’t just be some useless thing to move the plot forward and quickly end a fight scene that would have definitely ended with somebody (Sabine) dying.
Aaaah come on. That would be.....an actual plot you are describing xD
Bruh, you don't come back from a lightsaber stab wound in the torso. By all accounts of internalized logic that has been used since the inception of this franchise, she should be dead. There is no recovery. Hell if they were going to just handwave it entirely it begs the question why even bother showing a character getting impaled by a lightsaber if they're going to shake it off like a fucking DBZ character? Just idiotic.
@@cooljim1376 Totally agree, but we all know that Disney isn’t about to kill off a girl boss. If we lived in a perfect world then Disney would know how lightsabers worked, but they don’t so I’m just trying to compensate for their stupidity and work with it to make a story that’s actually good.
I know it's a small detail but it's glaring how all the costumes looks so clean amd pressed. Everything looks too crisp.
Hot take - Ahsoka has no business existing at this point of time. She should've died during CW.
It is very obvious that her character was meant to die in the Clone Wars because she is a walking plot hole at this point.
I’m so tired of people who don’t want to be found leaving maps so people can find them
Thrawn did not leave a map and thrawn wants to be found so this is just wrong
You are right about the hallway scene because it is a martial art and would be fluid movements not robotic
Vader is robotic
@@davidfrederiksen3185 no Vader is a cyborg there is a difference
@@Joshua-uw7wm it is also his lightsaber style
You never mentioned anything about Sabine neglecting her pet cat.
It's as if they expected the cat to use the elevator, to get down and find something to eat.
Cat didn't even sleep on the bed with her. A red flag right there.
Did you not see her feed the cat?
@@discobroccoli198 Once. Then she went back to her tower and didn't bother later in the episode.
Ahsoka goes to the tower and there's a sheer look of death on the cats face. 🤣
If your biggest complaint is about a damn cat you need to stfu lmao
I think what bothers me most about Ahsoka is the fact that they have some actors and actresses that I really like in this show, they're just used poorly to terribly. I like Rosario Dawson (go watch her in Clerks II), I love David Tennant (my second favorite Doctor), Ray Stevenson (RIP he was dynamite as the Punisher), Mary Elizabeth Winstead (Scott Pilgrim Vs The World), hell they even had the great Clancy Brown (Hadley from Shawshank Redemption and the Kurgan from Highlander) and they did absolutely nothing with the actors. Also, were they not able to get the rights to "Sabotage" for the scene with the gender studies major on the speeder bike? Another question: Wasn't this supposed to be a movie at one point? Because I remember this being announced as a movie.
You forgot Clancy Brown’s most esteemed credit: Mr. Krabs
@@flibbettyjibbetts6766 That's very true.
True geeks know Clancy Brown as Rawhide, one of Buckaroo Banzai's Hong Kong Cavaliers! Hell, they even had an oscillation overthruster in Sabine's apartment!
“Even the droids show more emotion” 💀
It's true, sadly
Star Wars is truly dead @@darthgroot9130
Dave Filoni takes the starwars lore out of starwars. No jedi no sith and now no lightsaber
Title can't be more accurate
Rest in Peace Ray Stevenson
Thank goodness for the VLC speedwatch feature 😂 Because the first two episodes were molasses! 54 minutes and most of it is silence, watching, and 'look at the pretty backgrounds and wallpaper scenes'.
Mandalorian and even Boba Fett, and omg even WILLOW felt more alive than Ashoka.
ALSO: DAVID TENANT WAS THE ROBOT????? 😮
7:30 Sabine still manages to overshadow Ashoka in her own show. 😂
9:52 💀💀💀💀
11:37 omg great minds think alike 😂😂😂😂😂
In my Star Wars only Luke was all that remained of the Jedi.
Who knew back then that Jedi were so prosperous?
And what star wars was that
@@davidfrederiksen3185 Your a Disney supporter aren't you.
@@Kowalski_5 no it just depends on what you where a fan of cause in all the books there where many more force users the same for the games before Disney even bought it
@@davidfrederiksen3185 I accept the works of the creator. And for our purposes here,and as a guilty pleasure, I will include Rogue One. When I bring Disney into the discussion, it isn't to mock.
Like Disney the consumer wants more. And more leads to inferior quality. And there is never enough.
Star Wars was a story dealing with a relationship/s. And it was satisfactorily concluded.
Not withstanding Lucas's blueprint for a sequel trilogy, which I assume remains only in his imagination.
Because I doubt we'll see it.
1st episode was 5/10...mediocre at best. thing is too many people are all hyped up and caught-up in the moment and are overstating it's value.
More 1/10
Or, be prepared for this one, some people actually like the show and enjoy it?
Or it seems better because all we've been fed for the past few years from Star Wars is absolute shit
@@Emanuel-hh4uu people who like this are probably never watch anything good in their life
@@grahstache2904 That's your opinion
That’s never what Ahsoka would look like
Fun fact: Ahsoka Tano was actually co-created by George Lucas himself. And he told Dave Filoni that she supposed to during Order 66 (since most of the Jedi died in ROTS), but Dave didn't listen to George and kept Ahsoka alive as long as he possible can.
And it would've been fine is Ahsoka died in that duel with Vader in season 2 of the Rebels. But no, Filoni went full Barry Allen on Star Wars space and time just to save his waifu.
@@OverLorD768 Exactly. I was going to mention that also, but it was so long as is! Ahsoka’s fight with Darth Vader in Rebels would’ve been a perfect sendoff to her character, and honor George. Instead, she’s alive much after the Original Trilogy, now?!
@@mattimusprimal637 she's alive after Sequels as well, since Disney confirmed that so they wouldn't piss off Filoni, I mean, fans even more. Just don't ask where she was during all that time and why she, being the oldest jedi, didn't bothered to teach Rey. And don't ask what she was doing during the Original Trilogy, and why Yoda refused to acknowledge her existance, calling Luke the last jedi before passing away. Cause, you know, this is the way. Filoni way.
@@OverLorD768unpopular opinion, I feel like Ahsoka is overrated and has more plot armor than Rey.
@@asteriasheria2053I agree. BUT I also felt that Anakin having an apprentice between episode 2 and 3 weird. I prefer the original clone wars dynamic where its just Anakin and Obi-Wan.😅
I like Rosario but, someone better needs to play Ahsoka.
I thought she was a bad choice from day one, but everyone was like "Well, Ashley Eckstein can't play her?" (Why not?). Still...bad choice.
09:07 In addtion, she doesn't just leave, she disobeys instruction for no reason but the question should be asked as to why Ashoka didn't tell her that she was nearly killed trying to retrieve this map and there are dangerous people looking it.
Looks like majority of the show is Ashoka with her arms crossed making a smug face
So the sith are the good guys? Cool
Siths were always good guys !
Still holding out for a grey Jedi one of these days.
There are no good guys in that wretched galaxy
Thrawn is!
These are not sith they are more like dark jedi
LOL! The comparison of hallway scenes killed me. :D
Vader is deflecting the blaster shots, C´Baoth from Wish holds the saber and the enemies are deliberately shooting at it.
I wonder what happened? Clone Wars Ahsoka was always quippy. Granted shes older and more depressed now (canonically kinda legitimate) but that does not make for an entertaining character.
Also fuck these magical item search quests
how do one fail like this at STAR WARS??? this is terrible
The issue with these new female characters is that they are supposed to be women, but act and speak like men.
What do you mean by new female characters. And how do you expect female warriors to speak
Ahsoka is not some shopping girl she has been in a religion since she was a baby so has Sabine and herra has been a rebel for most of her life fighting like her father
*like narcissists
Holy shit I was thinking that the whole time that the actors facial expressions are so lifeless
Literally had the same thought about the characters - lifeless and dull. I wasn’t sold on Ahsoka on the Mandalorian and this show certainly has not done anything to change that. I am a fan of Rebels and honestly when the second episode was over I was really disappointed. I felt so let down. I really had hopes for this show. I love Ahsoka in the Clone Wars and Rebels. But this is shite. She was so adamant about not being a Jedi and now all of a sudden a Jedi with a padawan. Like you said with no force user ability at all. Then Sabine gets skewered and just gets up the next day like its a scratch. How did Dave come up with such great moments in Rebels and then put out this crap? I don’t get it.
06:49 You picked up on everything I did, except for Ahsoka cutting additional holes in the ground. This is stupid because now what she has gone a created 3 entries points for the droids instead of just using one as a choke point. In addition with those 2 droids falling into the cavern below, why didn't she kill them instead of allowing them to climb back up. And why is a map containing thrawn's location buried in an ancient underground temple that looks like it hasn't been disturbed in centuries? why is the ball itself incase in someone kind of carbon? That "carbon" looks like it could have been something else that has decayed over time, which then asks the question how old is this map, if we are to assume that thrawn as kicking around during the OT, how would recent data such as thrawns location be added to it if this thing might have been buried for centuries
1. This is post OT not during.
2. The hole thing isn’t a valid argument because she didn’t need to use a choke point as she outmatched all the droids easily.
3. You don’t know what the maps made of.
4. The map leads to a planet. Not Thrawn. Thrawn is probably on that planet
I hate that Kk has cut off Luke Skywalker's balls and they at Disney forced Ahsoka to grow a weiner! Not only that but to add insult to injury they basically called qui-gon-jinn a nancy-boy and implied that he was Weak and Powerless against being impaled by lightsaber which makes complete sense given that getting stabbed by a literal beam of superheated energy would instantly melt your internal organs making it impossible for you to live unless you're some kind of weird alien that can survive with organs in their head or something. However you look at it Kathleen Kennedy and some others are like the real world manifestation of evil because they have personally assassinated many good characters with compelling stories and interesting backgrounds, characters who have been portrayed by very talented men, beloved actors. The two top actors that I can think of would be Liam Neison and Mark Hamill characters that they've portrayed are numerous yet each performance given in my personal opinion was nigh Flawless and spoke to a degree of Godly Talent, for their characters to receive the kind of treatment they have in recent years I think it akin to personal insults to the actors themselves!
WAIT: this show has already released? This just further proves how little these SW shows are grabbing people’s attention
"I didn't know, therefore barely anyone cares"
Sublime logic.
It’s grabbed loads of people’s attention. Or you think just because a UA-camr has an opinion on it it means it hasn’t lmao
What kinda take is that lmao just cuz you didn't see it doesn't mean other ppl haven't either
It’s been trending on twitter constantly you just didn’t care
My guy your logic is beyond stupid. You look like a dumbass lol.
Imagine if Ahsoka took the map to Luke.
I like The Clone Wars. That's why I have no intention of watching this.
So far it is good
None of these women have the gravitas to pull this off, even if they were given the absolute best story and dialogue. Which they haven't. It's an ensemble that somehow manages to be less than the sum of its parts.
R. Dawson’s filmography speaks otherwise with Sin City, Luke Cage etc.
I remember the actress playing the title character repeating "Yaaaas yassss she be a leader, yasss" like this weird power hungry female mantra was supposed to be the applauded norm now
Disney never fails to ruin the Star Wars franchise 😭
I think I'm noticing a pattern with this show... The bad guys are all white and blonde/light haired. The good guys are all black, green, or purple haired.
All black, green, or purple haired.
Ahsoka is orange. Being played by a black actress doesn’t make her black. Hera is green cause she’s a twilek and she’s been green since her introduction in rebels. Sabine has also had purple hair always in rebels. What is your point lmao.
Thrawn is blue and he is the main villian. And yes the empire is made to resemble Nazi Germany so it makes sense
this whole video was more interesting that all the fight scenes in the movie. love the video you've earned a sub
11:32 Why is Asoka only attacked by the dude and battle droid at the shipyard. It was made clear that the entire shipyard was filled with ex imperials which mean there could be hundreds or thousands of ex imperials.
Becouse maybe their doing something else 🤦
The entire shipyard? No it was just the members of that one operation, and idk about you, but if a bunch of my allies were caught then I saw two lightsaber wielding warriors fighting I wouldn’t want to go near them. They even stated that the people weren’t loyal they just got paid more
@@oXRaptorzXo Ok I was going to ignore this comment because of the stupid, but fuck it lets play. 2 x republic high value targets enter an area that is being used for classified imperial project. Upon approach to the administration area out of the approx 50 people that they drove passed, they are being eyeballed by at least 8 workers probable imperials during which The administrator says "You will find ex-imperials in all levels of govt". This is not including the 3 x known imperials in the command center. After the battle we can see 11 people being arrested none of them seem to be any of the 8 x workers that were acting as spotters before. We can make an assumption that there is possibly between 10 - 20 ex imperials in the vicinity of classified imperial project and they were almost certainly tasked as their main priority to ensure the completion of the project. 2 x republic members are a threat. Battle commences, republic members are now split up which increases imperial chances to neutralise the threat. Kill the "general" on her way back to her ship, regroup and backtrack and overwhelm the "jedi" by superior numbers. 2 x HVT dead, project completed.
Job done.
@@Bootyhunter70 Sure okay and you really analyzed this deeply but your ignoring the fact that these people aren’t loyal except for maybe the command center guys. It is stated that they are loyal to whoever pays more. Which means that when it comes down to it, they aren’t gonna risk their lives to fight someone or stop a rebel general or Jedi. And doing such a thing even if successful would lead to new republic retaliation.
At this rate lightsabers may as well be pool noodles with how little to no damage they do to these characters.
The is the best video title i've ever read
Ray Stevenson deserved better. We will miss you, Pullo!
it be so fucking awesome if they released a series on someone cool from the dark side like darth revan
They would probably make him cry to some feminist character 😂
@@Trapsta123 sadly that's most likely true
I don’t care for Disney Star Wars anymore but for some reason I find it’s so entertaining to watch videos talking about how bad Star Wars is nowadays
you know how many people would be left dead if they wanted them to be, when they get ran through you simply flick your wrist to finish cutting them in half. disney has turned lightsabers into nerf foam swords, int he movies they were leaving cuts on peoples faces like a traditional knife