The random New Yorkers finding out that the mutants aren't as bad as everyone thinks and actively helps the tmnt stop the fully mutated Superfly and recognized as heroes.
No matter how many times I watch this movie, I just can’t get over “No Diggity”. This is the embodiment of Cool Teens Doing Ninja Things. This is probably the most I’ve laughed in theaters. I’m currently 18 and I had an absolute blast with this movie. I’m still a bit salty RISE got cancelled, but at the same time, I can’t be mad with how amazing this movie was. As always, Leonardo still remains my favorite Turtle since 2012.
Real though, me n my partner sung the song and we’re laughing and just having a great time during the montage. The music in this movie is just👌🏽perfection
What I specially liked about this movie is that they never felt more like brothers than in this one. Usually there is always something pulling them apart like Raph bullying Mikey or everyone zoning out when Donnie nerds out on something but here they stick together through thick and thin. Love that we can have a family movie without one of those infighting subplots
@@cmnidit4444 I mean I get that but it's starting to feel like a tired out trope in TMNT media and animation as a whole. I don't need the brothers to fight in every iteration so this felt like a breath of fresh air in that regard
I got 3 brothers and our personalities line up to an almost scary degree with our favorite turtles. In fighting is super normal from the time we were kids and it still happens now that we are grown men. It's one of the reasons we all latched onto the turtles so much they mirrored our own lives.
"Beautiful ugliness" and "the background is a character too" are the perfect descriptions of the overall look of this film. I particularly love how every source of light consists of two alternating scribbles. Also this is far and away the most I've ever related with April.
yess!!! i love how "ugly" this movie is! in a medium where everything can be symmetrical and close to "perfect" seeing stylistic choices like this be made is just AGHHHH I LOVE IT!!
The best way I would describe the art style is an oil-spill meeting a kids sketchbook. It’s messy. It’s gritty. It’s rough around the edges, but it’s sleek. Its lively. It’s colorful and dark. Idk.
@@danielserrano929 Just because two films have similar styles doesn’t mean they aren’t worth watching. And honestly, Spiderverse has a VASTLY different style to TMNT. Their animation, modeling, character design, story-telling style, etc are both very unique. Disney’s or Marvel for example have had the same “style” for well over a decade now, but that doesn’t seem to deter people. Heaven forbid artists and animators are allowed more expression and release 3 movies that are outside of the “status quo”. 3D animation has already “been done” for decades but it’s still a vastly expressive medium. You can’t discount it based on “it looks similar so I won’t see any others” alone. To each their own, but that’s just a disappointing and (forgive me) stupid mindset to have about more artistically styled movies.
Honestly that’s how I saw it too when I first saw it, it just sucks that some people can’t see it or see it and don’t like it because it’s not ‘visually appealing’
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡. Never gen Z. HELLL no. and no that’s dumb asf. It’s still the turtles, if they do a future turtle again, then it will always be a mix from the 80’s and 90’s and new age. If they bring them back to the 90’s that would be amazing
Why are some people so against "uglyness" in media, specially when the imperfections are made with purpose and style. I mean i'd so prefer to have media where people can identify and find themselves in the characters for their uniqueness rather than sticking to the kitten face proportions ALL the time
I agree. I think people should lean in more into asymmetrical designs, and there should be more variety in design. When you walk around in public you aren't expecting everyone to be attractive to you, you just see them as what they are (a person) and move on. So why is it not the same in media? Why is it such a big deal when a character isn't a physical ideal? This also applies to live action media, in my opinion, it has bothered me for a while the thought that a really talented actor may be turned down because they don't have the 'right look'. And how actors are pressured into surgeries to maintain an idealized appearance. It seems unethical to me. There is so much more we can do with our art, there is no need to have this arbitrary boundaries and limit ourselves to the absolute ideal of beauty. Other things should be free to be explored. Mediocre and ugly appearances should be accepted and not reviled, and also I think there should be more protagonists with visible disabilities. Things like malformed faces. Because as of now a large majority of the disabled characters are shown as villains which is sad. It should be accepted that appearance and morality do not have a correlation, and there is nothing wrong with being disabled.
@@alyssahansen1400because it's supposed to be escapism. Not reality ya tard. Where are 6foot tall turtles who use weapons and eat pizza? If we wanted to see ugly reality, we'd just look outside. Not in our hundred million dollar escapism
Regardless of how the "crush" plays out, I do appreciate that it had a purpose in moving the plot forward. That was a very easy and clean way to explain how Leo went from a tattle tale to also wanting to be accepted by the human world (instead of always raining on his brother's parade, even if he still wanted it too deep down inside). Splinter made the mistake of punishing Leo for his honesty about where they were in the beginning of the film, he and his brothers were grounded, his brothers were mad at him and that sucked for him, but April, talking to April, having an immediate crush on her... yep that's how "Teacher's Pet" Leo went along with the plan to take down Superfly. There might have been other ways to do it, but I think this works a little better than how the 2012 show did it with April and Donnie. It's a kid's movie, so uh, not expecting too much thought on how a human/turtle relationship would work past the end credits. Doubt the kids will either. I really am ready for it to go either way who cares at least she isn't a skinny red head like all the other times. Gargoyles, if anyone remembers that show, had a Gargoyle/human thing that didn't feel weird. You're exactly correct that Leo needs to come into his own as a leader and I think the crush on April might be one of the things he let's go, or at least stops focusing on, as he matures. I also have a theory about this new version of the turtles. Our main three movie villains will be Superfly, Shredder, and Krang. For Superfly we have a story about Teenage Mutants. For Shredder I am hoping we get more elaboration on Splinter's backstory, he said he was a rat in his prime when he was mutated but weirdly seemed to lack a lot of feral traits. I think he was a pet. I think there is a chance he was Hamato Yoshi's pet and doesn't want his sons to know he was a pet. So the the second movie will introduce the Ninja aspect and maybe more of Splinter's past. The third movie will give us our full Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Maybe a reunion of what makes these four brothers different from humans as they go up against the Krang? Mutant = negative association. This first movie being a mutant is a hindrance to their chance to be regular teens. Turtles = positive. Some difference are good okay, and maybe even a strength. I feel the way this movie completely scrapped the "ninja" part was on purpose. The next movie will touch on it in a fresh exciting way I hope because that teaser at the end.... oh boy. The whole fandom is about to eat.
If it’s ok to add to the splinter pet theory, I think the reason Splinter started hating humans is because Shredder killed his owner, who happens to be Hamato Yoshi. Like how it happened in the 2003 series and the original comics. I hope this makes sense
I love Rise splinter, one of my favorites. He’s a father who slacked on their training and just wanted to raise his boys until things got real. When the situation changed he had to change, and step up as the turtles sensei
In first look clips of this movie, Seth Rogen expressed how he really focused on the teenage aspect of the turtles since every interaction of them were performed by adults. Along with it was very evident the boys who voiced the turtles had tremendous fun in their roles, as did Ice Cube, but some of the generation z slang may have gotten old for viewers/older fans of the turtles.
Rogen also had the VA’s all record together in the same booth, cause their chemistry was too good that’s how they used to do kevin conroy and mark hamil in BATS, they would have both of them record their lines together to work off each other,.
Right! I'm soooo hurt that Rise is gone. I hear there's a Mutant Mayhem show airing soon so that just feels like the final nail in the coffin for this show
My favourite line in the movie, which also helps to emphasize just how young these guys are, is when Raph says, "He's the GOAT of all time." Of all time is literally in the word GOAT
The Turtles in this ACTUALLY feel like teens/young adults. The humor hit right on the mark for both me and my friends. Im 23 already graduated from high school, but i can tell yall 100 percent THIS is how teenage bois act in highschool 😂😂 Also, can we talk about the fight scenes?? They DEFINITELY got Jackie Chan to look over the choreography, cuz some of the scenes are ripped straight from some of his older movies with all the prop fighting and whatnot (also Old Boy hallway fight reference was AWESOME)
@@gumbo34it does sound funny because it shouldn't be needed to be mentioned, but the way he wrote it makes it sound like it wouldn't be so uncommon. He's obviously joking though in the earlier reply.😏
The way the turtles talk in this movie is super cringe, but its the same type of cringe you'd hear in a highschool hallway, so if realism was the goal, they knocked it outta the park.
7:33 OH GOD I LOVE THIS SCENE WHEN HE SAYS " that means you turtles aren't as cool as I thought you were... And that right there PISSES ME OFF!" And then he smashes a fire hydrant. And says "Don't cuz me man" he just has some of the best lines in the entire movie.
I like that the movie explores the whole theme of being teens just hanging out and coming into their own. I want them to grow into the ninja warriors, to have their conflicts yes but its good to have these kind of innocent roots to start with to allow the story and the young audience it gets involved to grow with these iteration of turtles.
Something I noticed almost right away was how the main cast- The Turtles, Splinter, April- were more symmetrical while the antagonists and background characters were asymmetrical. I assume this was to make them more recognizable while also making them easier to focus on (because them being Symmetrical in a World of Asymmetrical still makes them stand out). I also thought the crush was cute, I don't see them ever getting together, but I could see the one-sided crush trope continue into the next movie. Maybe it's used as a tool to help Leo and April grow/develop? Or just left open-ended. I honestly prefer Rise and Mutant Mayhem over 2012 just because the series was more serious and at times dark (and the crushes- Karai X Leo / April X Donnie- were unwatchable even as a kid and annoyed me lmao). Splinter was awesome in character design, humor, and personality- I just wish he was more familiar(?) with The Turtles. When he died it broke my heart and I never watched it consistently after. My brother still loves that series and its prob his favorite iteration- I definitely wanna go back and watch it at some point, but overall I think I enjoy more light-hearted, silly/goofy humor sprinkled with sentimental and serious/intense moments- a lot of people consider marketed towards the younger demographic. Edit: It's also so cool being able to recognize what iteration of TMNT inspired characters/designs/plots- just makes me feel extra knowledgeable lol
tmnt is probably the only time when pop culture references dont need to hold up. Its getting reboots over and over again, the references are a stamp to when it was made and for who!
YESS THE TURTLES ARE TEENS THATS LITERALLY THE TITLE! I personally don't think you have to use gen-z slang for portraying a teenager, but the actors used certain slang words during ad lib because it was natural so obviously there had to be a few areas it was meant to happen (like the amount of times rizz was used, which was slightly cringe I wont lie). I loved every character and I liked how they made such a large cast work. It really makes me excited fo rht future of this iteration (and ty to the last guy, this movie was not spider-verse-ified, it was unique with the scribbles and shiz)
Great review! Don't have much to add because your comments reflected pretty much my thoughts as well! This movie was so great and am glad so many people enjoyed it. 🐢🐢🐢🐢 Only thing I'll add is that while it was a bummer Raph didn't have much to do in this (plot wise), this was probably my favorite version of him, characterization-wise. He got, like, all the funniest lines. They did a great job having fun with how aggro he is
I love the Gen Z slang in this movie. It’s definitely dating itself, but I think the Turtles as a franchise is in a unique position to just have fun with that. There’s probably gonna be another new iteration in like five years, so why don’t we lean in to the fact that these are the 2023 Turtles, the ones for teens today, you know? And in the future, I think it’ll still be fun. I’m watching the 2003 cartoon right now and absolutely reveling in how unapologetically early 2000s it is, lol. I would rather each version have its own identity rather than one trying to become “timeless”. Not sure if this makes sense. Great video! I love your channel.
I’d say it arguably does not date it- it makes sense for their demographic and age, which I’d argue moreso gives it a good idea of who, where, and when the story takes place, and it’ll be a really good way of preserving language. that’s just my thoughts though
Animation was great, the dynamic between the characters was fantastic, the overall ending message/ dream of the turtles was very milk toast. Overall its a solid 8/10
I've haven't watched TMNT of Mutant Mayhem just yet. But as soon as I saw the trailers & parts of the making of it with young VA casting and animation styling I knew it would be something I'll be interested in. I've never been a big TMNT fan except for the 2018 series which was a banger and I'm still hurt that Nickelodeon did it so dirty. But this TMNT movie looks both awesome and an entertaining fun watch that I'm so excited to see. Love how the Turtles literally feel and sound also act like genuine super young teens of today, as well as the Mutants designs and the overall very gritty grungy graphic style of everything. So hyped to see this movie. 👍🏾
Wasn't April's original design based on a black woman? Update: according to Kevin Eastman she was designed to be Asian, but was named after a black woman he knew. Oops
@@Tigerkaya not actually answering my questing, but also wrong as it turns out. "Created as an Asian character but named after an african american woman I once knew. " is the Kevin Eastman quote I half remembered.
@@NyJoanzyYou're spot on actually. April was modeled after a biracial woman Eastman once knew. But then April was changed to be unambiguously white in the first animated series.
She was based off the ex wife of one of the creators, who was a half black biracial woman, which is why in her first debut she had dark curly hair and light brown skin, but then was later changed to white. Whoever tells you she was white first doesn’t know what they’re talking about and most likely are just racist.
Loved this analysis. I wasn't even thinking about watching this movie but now I'm intrigued. The art style is SO dope and I like the changes from previous adaptations of TMNT.
The crayon/color-pencil-heavy style is just so choice. It's so good. This movie looks like what would happen if you put every 7th grader from 1990 through 1994's who could draw the basic character designs, put all our sketches and styles into a blender, and then filtered it into 3d. It's so smart, it's so honest. The fact that people.... people think it's "lag"? I just. People are so stupid.
Why is it so hard to make a more serious 2003-esque reboot with good 2D animation and strong plot? TMNT comics aren’t goofy. They are supposed to be badass.
My boys look like theyre made of playdough and I've been obsessed from the moment i saw them. Fascinating iteration. I'm still partial to Rise first and foremost, but this one is great. Can't wait to actually see it for myself.
As a lifelong turtle fan I freaking loved this movie. Even as an adult it was refreshing to see them reimagined for a younger audience to fall in love with. They seriously reminded me of my 13 yo nephew and it warmed my heart Also I LOVED the freaky animation! When artists can feel free to get creative and do something different you can just feel the love and passion they have for their craft. It’s so weird to me that the same people complaining about the art style are the same ones taking issue with “bean mouth” designs.
at least leo’s crush on april in this movie felt more like him wanting to experience falling in love and being in a relationship (ya know, human stuff)
Awesome video!! I’m only halfway through rn but I thought it’d be fun to share-the cartoons actually have tackled the turtles being known outcasts before, in the 87 version! The turtles in that version are well known to the New York public the whole show, and there’s quite a few episodes that deal with the turtles personal feelings on having to still live as outcasts and having to often fight to be accepted. There’s multiple episodes/storylines where people turn the cities opinion back against mutants again, or episodes where they wish they had somewhere to live that was truly openly accepting of them. Obviously these plots are handled with the shows usual goofy lightheartedness (although they do get more serious as the seasons go on), but it’s still a consistent thread for that version and it’s one of the reasons why I’m so hype for this new iteration! We haven’t really had a show play with them as known almost superheroes like 87 did since, it’s really fun as a major fan of the old version to see these concepts be used in a fresh and exciting way!
I loved April, she felt like a real teenager. It’s pathetic how grown men are mad they can’t get off to her because she’s no longer a skinny white woman.
Nah it's the redhead part that they replace the getting rid of all the red heads. Look it up all the redheads are being replaced when they do a remake or the same thing it's a weird phenomenon going on. But yeh she did act like a teen but she could of stayed a redhead. ( I'm not a redhead but I see how it would upset people)
As someone who has never given much thought to the TMNT franchise, I thoroughly enjoyed this film. Two things I found refreshing were the sketchy animation style and the actually teen-like teenage characters. Both qualities of the movie made the story and characters feel much more real and rooted.
I always thought it was kinda weird that Splinter was a human that mutated into a giant rat while the turtles were just turtles that grew in size and adapted human-like sentience. I don't remember much of the tv show, though i watched it religiously as a kid, but I always had this feeling Splinter was the pet rat of a martial arts sensei who merely adapted his master's behavior and teachings. I don't really care what race April is in the series, as long as she kept her personality, wittiness and dream to become a famous reporter. I doubt people liked the character because she was a certain race, but that's just me. Excited to see where the series goes from here
In the movie from the 90s that's what happened, I believe it was turtles in time. They have a scene almost exactly how you described. Splinter in Japan in a cage as a young rat mimicking the movements of his master. I think that was my only con about this movie, I really liked that splinter was their sensei and father. They should've made him like a retired master.
In the TMNT 2012 version, where Splinter was a human, it explains that mutagen will mutate you into the last thing you touch. Splinter mutated into a rat because he got ambushed by Kraang droids near the sewers, where there are rats. And the turtles, assuming the last thing they touched was human Splinter, turned into humanoid turtles.
@@ninibugg6203 This was a complicated origin and i feel like it created some major plot holes for certain other mutated characters.. although, to be fair, so does the other explanation considering there's a freaking rhino mutant lmao
i grew up obsessed with the ninja turtles ever since watching the 1987 turtles show. makes me so happy to see them keeping the franchise accessible to children and old fans alike. will always love these guys!
As a fan of the tmnt forever, I will say the turtles talking like adults in most versions makes sense as the first comics are more adult oriented. They stab and slice and cut and snap necks and kill Foot clan members. They'd be more grown up in that case. Making them more teens in this, especially since it's geared more for kids, is fine. I'm just giving my interpretation of why they act more adult sometimes.
The absolute whiplash I got from hearing them play no diggity in this movie when I saw it in the theater is mental like dude that song raised me and now it's in this amazing movie
4:37 Not only does she fit the world of TMNT thematically, I also just think black April simply looks better when paired up with the green turtles, from a pure character design standpoint.
To develop my thought a little further, I think characters with lighter skin tones tend to look a bit too washed out when standing by the more eye-poppy green Turtles. Characters with more melanin tend to create more cohesion within the group, as well as adding some contrast. As someone studying Animation and who loves character design, I really like it.
this movie is definitely mid. the childish behavior is just too much of a child. I saw things I would never say or do as a teenager. the animation style was good. But I miss the darkness. Leo's Crush on April was so annoying. Compared to Donnie's on April he was cute to her but he was just cringe. And what's the big topic? They wanna become famous. To get liked by ppl. Yes that's what teens what but not the TMNT. Not for me. They wanna be heros not celebraties. I am a fan since I was little and watched TMNT 2012 and I'm saying it's top tier how should a teenage hero league been written. It wasn't always serious and not always jokingly. Perfect balance. This movie wasn't a bit dark.
I have some gripes with the movie but my biggest had to be the “NINJA” in Ninja Turtles. Like this movie shouldve been called TMT not TMNT. The whole point of the ninja turtles is too live in the shadows but they kinda just ignore that aspect of it
And the turtle crush is just not it. Mikey in the original movies and the bey movies being flirty with april is funny. But in the case of donnie and leo being competely in love with her is just dumb
As someone who’s never interacted with any TMNT shows, movies, or comics, I loved this movie! I went into it completely blind, I only went bc Trent Reznor was part of the music scoring, and I left feeling so fulfilled. The grossness of NIN has intrigued me, so the ugliness of the movie made it super cool. Like when Superfly transformed, it reminded me of the body horror genre. I left the theater like 🤩🤯 And as a zoomer and someone who uses words like “rizz” for fun, I thought the language was really funny.
The Mirage comics, Image comics are loaded with body horror, even the Nick 2012 show. The turtles worry they're monsters but they're cute compared to other nightmare fuel mutants.
One thing i helped the film wasn’t just getting teenage actors, Seth rogen the co-writer and producer of the film, said that he had the turtles VA’s all record together in the same booth because their chemistry was good and they played so well off each other So when you have all the moments of them just being kids and being brothers together, it comes off as so much more genuine.
7:59 Yeah at first I thought Leatherhead had a British accent but actually wingnut has a British accent and Leatherhead actually has an Australian accent which is really weird and also in the 2012 series has my favorite version of Leatherhead so I was expecting him to be a man but no he's a woman.
As someone who is a teenager and has been a turtle fan since I could remember, I don't like the teenagerness of this movie. Maybe to you it doesn't seem forced but someone who is a teenager and has said a lot of the things there. First of all, the word "Rizz", no one actually says Rizz seriously over the age of like 11, so that very much seems forced. Them singing BTS, that doesn't seem that forced but they're in a life or death situation they shouldn't be singing BTS. I don't like how Donnie is a weeb in this, he should be smart not a nerd, I didn't really notice him being much smarter than the other turtles it just felt like he was a nerd. Like you said Leo having a crush, it's ninja turtles I don't wanna see love interests. No Raphael and Leonardo rivalry, I understand that it shouldn't fit but I want to see it in the sequel, we had it kinda in the rise movie but that was completely swapped and didn't feel right, and other than that we haven't had it in years. These following are just tiny little things that barely matter but still annoy me. Donatello driving, I've always though Raphael should drive, no idea why but again this barely matters. Donatello and Splinter having glasses, what are the logistics of that, how did they get glasses made for them, especially since they're animals. April throwing up was super gross too me, I hate how when she threw up towards the end it played it like that was a small amount of vomit when it was like average and still gross.
You are wise beyond your years, it’s truly baffling how the types that are usually justifying and encouraging these types of “teen” quirks and behaviors are grown ass adults, honestly embarrassing. Seems to be less about “authenticity” and more about validating their projected immaturity on fictional characters. Shouldn’t we be encouraging people, especially the youth, to be better? Not be indulging in juvenility?
@frogoverlord1226 This movie got everything wrong about the TMNT as teenagers and removed the "ninja" out of Ninja turtles as they barely act like ninja towards the end of the movie and by the end they completely abandoned the "in the shadows" aspect of the characters with them removing their bandanas and going to highschool/class and Leo wanting to date April Really didn't like the origin change of them watching VHS tapes and UA-cam videos, they are supposed to be highly trained ninja assassins.
@@alexgomez6723 This is probably the worst version of The turtles as teenagers, the 1991 movie 2003, 2007, 2012 and 2018 TMNT all did a way better job with the turtles as teenagers than Mutant Mayhem.
@frogoverlord1226 This movie really messed up splinter and his origin, removing hamato Yoshi and Oroku saki seems like a really terrible mistake and judging by the post-credits scene we are getting a shredder who has no intrinsic beef with any of the turtles and splinter and has no reason to be in NYC apart from being "reimagined" as a hired mercenary with no connection to pre-existing ninja clans or is even the leader of the foot I've seen a theory going around that the shredder in the mutant Mayhem universe is actually one of the TCRI security Squad guys from the beginning of the movie who had his eye scratched by SuperFly during the capture of the mutagen from Baxter stockman.
I'm just going to say it but I think its weirder that people would give so much attention to the crush that leo has when his only frame of reference to relationships would be the human world but also the literal point of the movie is about how the turtles are just as human as anyone else. Like the running theme is about accepting someone's humanity rather than forcing them to earn it. Its very weird that people would put up barriers to what is basically a silly teen crush aside from aesthetics and how quickly we are weirded out by that despite the fact that the movie is being praised by how much the turtles remind them of literal human teenagers. But I guess it does prove that when the aliens come we will pretty much district 9 them over trivial shit.
The 1990s move was the best iteration of the TMNT. It likely won't ever be beat. It is fine that they've re-written this for new audiences and changed all of the characters to conform to new hollywood tropes. However, the grittiness and depth of the original 1990s movie will never be topped. It was one of a kind and still one of the best comic book movies ever made.
@@AugustRx compared to these cartoons or the Michael Bay movies? Character development and plat can be tough for some people to understand. You do you, bud
everything was amazing but April, I just cant get over they made her a overweight blogger...and race swapped her, like what is it with ppl race swapping all the gingers, this is literally getting ridiculous, almost all the race swaps they have been doing ARE GINGERS does hollywood hate gingers or something?
@@cx6k second issue of TMNT she was white dude the first time we saw a colored TMNT comic she was white and had a Perm which in the time period when TMNT was published white women got perms it was a whole thing for some reason. in the original comics she stood next to her boss who was black and you could even tell even in black and white that she was not black but white, most the picture people use to claim she is black were the black and white comics but the colored comics she was very obviously white but tan. In 2002, Kevin Eastman (co-creator) states that Pete Laird (co-creator) actually made April originally ASIAN. He goes on to say she was NAMED after black woman. That woman was mixed as was his ex. He says NAMED after, not designed after. Pete Laird himself has stated: "If you ask me, I always saw April O'Neil as white." and "As the co-creator of the character of April O'Neil, and as someone who has always imagined her as white, and very likely of Irish/Scottish/English ancestry" most of the ppl who said she was originally black didnt do there research properly and let the media lie to there face about how it really is
I just didn't dare to watch this movie yet. I love TMNT, but I grew up with the 2000's series, and with the original TMNT comics. The reason the 2000's series was my fav is because it was very faithful to the comics. I never really liked the 80's series,, because it was not well written, and the animation were, lets just say, not the highest quality. ;P It also changed fundamentally the personalities of my two fav characters, so that was a huge minus too. (the reason I'm not too big of a fan of ROTTMNT) I would really like some new TMNT content to watch, but I'm not sure this movie was made for me. :)
I made the mistake of looking at the comments on the Ante Up Twitter thread, and... yikes. I saw more than one comment about how April is bad because, they made her "an obese and ignorant black woman." And like... the inherent fatphobia aside... what exactly makes her ignorant? Does she actually have ignorant traits, or did they just not see the movie and assumed she would be ignorant? And if they did make that assumption, what is it about April that they are basing this assumption on. Pay no attention to the microphone and tape recorder in my hands.
Movie was one of the most fun ive watched in a long while. ESPECIALLY the car chase. When it played, half of the people in the cinema were singling along with it :). Good times.
This movie was a solid 8/10 for me. Characterization wise? I don’t think I’ve ever loved Leo so much. He’s such a dork and really tries to take care of his family! You can see that burden he has where it’s less of being the leader of a squad and just the struggles of being a big brother. But he’s also still able to be a kid and joke around with them, likely due to this Splinter treating the turtles like kids and not soldiers. Donnie is also great. The fact that he is a genuine AUTHENTIC nerd who likes anime? Mwah! Raph and Mikey get the short end of the stick, unfortunately. For me, Mikey used to always be my favorite for this sense of swagger he possessed compared to his brothers. Like yeah he jokes alot, but he’s also really cool. In this film he’s kinda just… wholesome boy. Which is fine, I can work with that. Raph, however? Kinda disappointing. Especially since he’s ALSO been my favorite turtle! I feel like this film has a very poor representation for why Raph is the way he is. He represents the sense of awareness that all the turtles are cursed with. He feels like a freak, and oftentimes the world instills that idea. Oftentimes people will say he’s all about just one upping Leo, but that’s not quite true. He’s a sad character honestly, and to see him just be reduced to a brat with rage problems is… extremely disheartening. Though maybe the complexity of the character will come back in future movies where the turtles are older. April is… fine. I do appreciate how they make her more grounded and offer a sister like connection with the turtles as she also feels like a freak of sorts. Though, I prefer Rise April… a lot more💀? That April also had the struggle of feeling like a freak (shown in multiple episodes), but ultimately learned to accept it and acknowledge that that’s okay! And with that boost in confidence, she’d become a powerhouse by kicking mutant butt with a grin! There’s just so much more spunk in that April that kinda has you shrugging your shoulders at MM April. Splinter is fine. Obviously not as good as arise Splinter, which it obviously takes heavy inspo from, but still okay! I appreciate how they gave him of an arc of sorts regarding prejudice. They handled it quite well honestly in a very emotionally vulnerable way. I would honestly love to see more of him. Animation wise everything is grunge-fully gorgeous. It all looks like an indie comic you’d find in the back of a gas station. A nice contrast to the more pristine look of the Spiderverse films. Plot wise? I’m kinda snoring. While I can appreciate giving the turtles a heartwarming and relatable goal of acceptance, I think the execution is rather bland, especially when things go exactly- EXACTLY how Donnie planned it. Take down the bad guy, get accepted by the world. I almost feel like it would’ve been more appropriate if the Turtles had defeated Superfly, but the news reports would still see them all as the villains. It would just show an ultimate selflessness to the turtles, as well as a layer of tragedy over them. Then again, this is a kid’s movie and to tell kids that they may never be accepted but that’s okay is perhaps too grim of messaging to deliver.
What I can’t get over the the fact that they put so much current slang in the movie. It’s hilarious hearing “rizz” and “sus” and it being used correctly.
Something about the Turtles being racially coded has always been cringe to me, so the title that turtles are more "black" than ever kinda of rubbed me the wrong way. Also, the Turtles feel more like actual teens than they have before. But I think they have emphasizing the teen aspect of the turtles since 2012. Btw, the Turtles having a crush on April never bothered me. I mean as many interspecies relationship that we accepted in fiction not sure why we draw the line at humanoid turtles.
You guys reference the spider verse so much but forget to mention the ninja turtles did it first, jumping between universes to interact with themselves. Turtleverse is the OG verse
2:16 Yeah that's true about the New Yorkers thing, they were talking about bacon egg and cheese sandwiches for a few seconds and I'm pretty sure that is New Yorker slang there was a scene where Mondo Gecko was talking about Staten Island and the Brooklyn Bridge.
What was your favorite part in TMNT Mutant mayhem?
The no digitty fight montage
The random New Yorkers finding out that the mutants aren't as bad as everyone thinks and actively helps the tmnt stop the fully mutated Superfly and recognized as heroes.
The best part is when April leaves the Turtles to get Splinter, but the Turtles feel abandoned because they don't know! 🤔🤔😉😉
No Diggity fight scene had me HYPED!! But no cap seeing New Yorkers lead by Kevin Eastman stand up for the Turtles for once almost made me cry.
@@DDarkestKnight for real! 👍🏻👍🏻
No matter how many times I watch this movie, I just can’t get over “No Diggity”. This is the embodiment of Cool Teens Doing Ninja Things. This is probably the most I’ve laughed in theaters. I’m currently 18 and I had an absolute blast with this movie. I’m still a bit salty RISE got cancelled, but at the same time, I can’t be mad with how amazing this movie was. As always, Leonardo still remains my favorite Turtle since 2012.
That scene is the best shit I’ve ever seen
Real though, me n my partner sung the song and we’re laughing and just having a great time during the montage. The music in this movie is just👌🏽perfection
@@axeldude7051 After the movie, I had to add it to my music playlist
@@axeldude7051⁰
I agree. It’s definitely enjoyable for all ages, especially its target demographic (me)
What I specially liked about this movie is that they never felt more like brothers than in this one. Usually there is always something pulling them apart like Raph bullying Mikey or everyone zoning out when Donnie nerds out on something but here they stick together through thick and thin. Love that we can have a family movie without one of those infighting subplots
The infighting makes it more real. These feel like fake brothers.
@@cmnidit4444 Maybe for others, some brothers just got that tight relationship. I don't mind them arguing though.
I honestly felt like rottmnt did it best because that'd exactly how me and my siblings act .
@@cmnidit4444 I mean I get that but it's starting to feel like a tired out trope in TMNT media and animation as a whole. I don't need the brothers to fight in every iteration so this felt like a breath of fresh air in that regard
I got 3 brothers and our personalities line up to an almost scary degree with our favorite turtles. In fighting is super normal from the time we were kids and it still happens now that we are grown men. It's one of the reasons we all latched onto the turtles so much they mirrored our own lives.
"Beautiful ugliness" and "the background is a character too" are the perfect descriptions of the overall look of this film. I particularly love how every source of light consists of two alternating scribbles.
Also this is far and away the most I've ever related with April.
Idky, but her still puking after while she was overcoming that made me laugh but in a heartfelt way. It felt so real,and then she carried on
yess!!! i love how "ugly" this movie is! in a medium where everything can be symmetrical and close to "perfect" seeing stylistic choices like this be made is just AGHHHH I LOVE IT!!
The best way I would describe the art style is an oil-spill meeting a kids sketchbook. It’s messy. It’s gritty. It’s rough around the edges, but it’s sleek. Its lively. It’s colorful and dark. Idk.
"an oil-spill meeting a kids sketchbook" i wish i had your brain. there probably isn't a better way to describe it
It already been done with spiderverse and if there’s another major film with the same style I don’t think I’ll watch it
@@danielserrano929 Just because two films have similar styles doesn’t mean they aren’t worth watching. And honestly, Spiderverse has a VASTLY different style to TMNT. Their animation, modeling, character design, story-telling style, etc are both very unique. Disney’s or Marvel for example have had the same “style” for well over a decade now, but that doesn’t seem to deter people. Heaven forbid artists and animators are allowed more expression and release 3 movies that are outside of the “status quo”. 3D animation has already “been done” for decades but it’s still a vastly expressive medium. You can’t discount it based on “it looks similar so I won’t see any others” alone.
To each their own, but that’s just a disappointing and (forgive me) stupid mindset to have about more artistically styled movies.
I don’t care if you think it’s stupid. You’re blind for not seeing the similarities. Go back to being a nerd somewhere else.
Honestly that’s how I saw it too when I first saw it, it just sucks that some people can’t see it or see it and don’t like it because it’s not ‘visually appealing’
I love that the Turtles went from Gen-Xers with surfer lingo to Zoomers. I hope every generation gets their own Turtles.
Me too
They still say cowabunga I’m glad they didn’t get rid of that catchphrase
@@Jinaria101 I like the word "Cowabunga"
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡. Never gen Z. HELLL no. and no that’s dumb asf. It’s still the turtles, if they do a future turtle again, then it will always be a mix from the 80’s and 90’s and new age. If they bring them back to the 90’s that would be amazing
What’s a Zoomer?
Why are some people so against "uglyness" in media, specially when the imperfections are made with purpose and style. I mean i'd so prefer to have media where people can identify and find themselves in the characters for their uniqueness rather than sticking to the kitten face proportions ALL the time
honestly it's all we see now adays
I agree. I think people should lean in more into asymmetrical designs, and there should be more variety in design. When you walk around in public you aren't expecting everyone to be attractive to you, you just see them as what they are (a person) and move on. So why is it not the same in media? Why is it such a big deal when a character isn't a physical ideal? This also applies to live action media, in my opinion, it has bothered me for a while the thought that a really talented actor may be turned down because they don't have the 'right look'. And how actors are pressured into surgeries to maintain an idealized appearance. It seems unethical to me. There is so much more we can do with our art, there is no need to have this arbitrary boundaries and limit ourselves to the absolute ideal of beauty. Other things should be free to be explored. Mediocre and ugly appearances should be accepted and not reviled, and also I think there should be more protagonists with visible disabilities. Things like malformed faces. Because as of now a large majority of the disabled characters are shown as villains which is sad. It should be accepted that appearance and morality do not have a correlation, and there is nothing wrong with being disabled.
“I don’t believe in consistency”
- Hobie Brown
Because if we wanted to see ugly reality we'd just go to work. It's called escapism for a reason.
@@alyssahansen1400because it's supposed to be escapism. Not reality ya tard. Where are 6foot tall turtles who use weapons and eat pizza? If we wanted to see ugly reality, we'd just look outside. Not in our hundred million dollar escapism
with this films animation style I believe a Crash Bandicoot movie is now possible
Sounds cool
Sly cooper in this style would hit so good too
I loved this movie. The art style was amazing and the story itself was so endearing. Just teens with a goal.
Me too
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feels like the spiderman movies are taking off
L take
Regardless of how the "crush" plays out, I do appreciate that it had a purpose in moving the plot forward. That was a very easy and clean way to explain how Leo went from a tattle tale to also wanting to be accepted by the human world (instead of always raining on his brother's parade, even if he still wanted it too deep down inside). Splinter made the mistake of punishing Leo for his honesty about where they were in the beginning of the film, he and his brothers were grounded, his brothers were mad at him and that sucked for him, but April, talking to April, having an immediate crush on her... yep that's how "Teacher's Pet" Leo went along with the plan to take down Superfly. There might have been other ways to do it, but I think this works a little better than how the 2012 show did it with April and Donnie.
It's a kid's movie, so uh, not expecting too much thought on how a human/turtle relationship would work past the end credits. Doubt the kids will either. I really am ready for it to go either way who cares at least she isn't a skinny red head like all the other times. Gargoyles, if anyone remembers that show, had a Gargoyle/human thing that didn't feel weird. You're exactly correct that Leo needs to come into his own as a leader and I think the crush on April might be one of the things he let's go, or at least stops focusing on, as he matures.
I also have a theory about this new version of the turtles. Our main three movie villains will be Superfly, Shredder, and Krang. For Superfly we have a story about Teenage Mutants. For Shredder I am hoping we get more elaboration on Splinter's backstory, he said he was a rat in his prime when he was mutated but weirdly seemed to lack a lot of feral traits. I think he was a pet. I think there is a chance he was Hamato Yoshi's pet and doesn't want his sons to know he was a pet. So the the second movie will introduce the Ninja aspect and maybe more of Splinter's past. The third movie will give us our full Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Maybe a reunion of what makes these four brothers different from humans as they go up against the Krang? Mutant = negative association. This first movie being a mutant is a hindrance to their chance to be regular teens. Turtles = positive. Some difference are good okay, and maybe even a strength.
I feel the way this movie completely scrapped the "ninja" part was on purpose. The next movie will touch on it in a fresh exciting way I hope because that teaser at the end.... oh boy. The whole fandom is about to eat.
If it’s ok to add to the splinter pet theory, I think the reason Splinter started hating humans is because Shredder killed his owner, who happens to be Hamato Yoshi. Like how it happened in the 2003 series and the original comics. I hope this makes sense
Eat some garbage, lmfao.
Niggas really like this shit, it’s quite literally trash.
It’s just forced.
It's for everyone. Especially for teens. 3 years olds are not going to get zoomer slangs.
@@redpanda6497 yea nah they won’t even comprehend “yur” 😂
I AGREE WITH YOU SO SO MUCH TY
I love Rise splinter, one of my favorites. He’s a father who slacked on their training and just wanted to raise his boys until things got real. When the situation changed he had to change, and step up as the turtles sensei
Me too
Fax
In first look clips of this movie, Seth Rogen expressed how he really focused on the teenage aspect of the turtles since every interaction of them were performed by adults. Along with it was very evident the boys who voiced the turtles had tremendous fun in their roles, as did Ice Cube, but some of the generation z slang may have gotten old for viewers/older fans of the turtles.
I like it
totally radical dude
Rogen also had the VA’s all record together in the same booth, cause their chemistry was too good
that’s how they used to do kevin conroy and mark hamil in BATS, they would have both of them record their lines together to work off each other,.
@@mckenzie.latham91 also true, they were all placed together when reading their lines and they made it feel more authentic.
They did Rise so dirty. Unique villains and the designs are just 🤌🏼, it had so much potential.
Right! I'm soooo hurt that Rise is gone. I hear there's a Mutant Mayhem show airing soon so that just feels like the final nail in the coffin for this show
I like how the turtles acted like teenagers
They sound like real teenagers too
@@baileydavis1616 Afaik all the actors are still pretty young, only freshly adults I think. 18-20 range.
@@gregvs.theworld451I like it better when they sound like teenagers
@@baileydavis1616 Yeah, I'll admit by the end of the movie the performances grew on me. I like the voices too.
@@gregvs.theworld451 Doesn't everyone?
My favourite line in the movie, which also helps to emphasize just how young these guys are, is when Raph says, "He's the GOAT of all time." Of all time is literally in the word GOAT
smh my head
rip in peace
Oml my lord
"go steal from your local store kids, the turtles do it"
The Turtles in this ACTUALLY feel like teens/young adults. The humor hit right on the mark for both me and my friends. Im 23 already graduated from high school, but i can tell yall 100 percent THIS is how teenage bois act in highschool 😂😂
Also, can we talk about the fight scenes?? They DEFINITELY got Jackie Chan to look over the choreography, cuz some of the scenes are ripped straight from some of his older movies with all the prop fighting and whatnot (also Old Boy hallway fight reference was AWESOME)
Yeah
You graduated high school at 23??
@@OceanIgs yes I did
…23?
@@gumbo34it does sound funny because it shouldn't be needed to be mentioned, but the way he wrote it makes it sound like it wouldn't be so uncommon. He's obviously joking though in the earlier reply.😏
The way the turtles talk in this movie is super cringe, but its the same type of cringe you'd hear in a highschool hallway, so if realism was the goal, they knocked it outta the park.
The more educated and mature (older) vrs the more uneducated and immature (newer). You gotta love it.. I guess. 😬
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not true, i say sus all the time and its cringe and funny@@chickensandwich1432
SUPER true lmfao
sus was a thing way before the meme.@@chickensandwich1432
7:33 OH GOD I LOVE THIS SCENE WHEN HE SAYS " that means you turtles aren't as cool as I thought you were... And that right there PISSES ME OFF!" And then he smashes a fire hydrant. And says "Don't cuz me man" he just has some of the best lines in the entire movie.
I like that the movie explores the whole theme of being teens just hanging out and coming into their own. I want them to grow into the ninja warriors, to have their conflicts yes but its good to have these kind of innocent roots to start with to allow the story and the young audience it gets involved to grow with these iteration of turtles.
Me too
All the Humans are ugly in Mutant Mayhem but it definitely feels like a stylistic change. As opposed to Ruby Gillman where the humans just look ugly.
very true, that was an aspect that turned me away from ruby gillman, and i loved the ugliness of mutant mayhem.
Something I noticed almost right away was how the main cast- The Turtles, Splinter, April- were more symmetrical while the antagonists and background characters were asymmetrical. I assume this was to make them more recognizable while also making them easier to focus on (because them being Symmetrical in a World of Asymmetrical still makes them stand out).
I also thought the crush was cute, I don't see them ever getting together, but I could see the one-sided crush trope continue into the next movie. Maybe it's used as a tool to help Leo and April grow/develop? Or just left open-ended.
I honestly prefer Rise and Mutant Mayhem over 2012 just because the series was more serious and at times dark (and the crushes- Karai X Leo / April X Donnie- were unwatchable even as a kid and annoyed me lmao). Splinter was awesome in character design, humor, and personality- I just wish he was more familiar(?) with The Turtles. When he died it broke my heart and I never watched it consistently after. My brother still loves that series and its prob his favorite iteration- I definitely wanna go back and watch it at some point, but overall I think I enjoy more light-hearted, silly/goofy humor sprinkled with sentimental and serious/intense moments- a lot of people consider marketed towards the younger demographic.
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It's also so cool being able to recognize what iteration of TMNT inspired characters/designs/plots- just makes me feel extra knowledgeable lol
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem Is Getting a Sequel
tmnt is probably the only time when pop culture references dont need to hold up. Its getting reboots over and over again, the references are a stamp to when it was made and for who!
Ikr? Personally, I'm just sick and tired of TMNT getting reboots over and over again.
YESS THE TURTLES ARE TEENS THATS LITERALLY THE TITLE! I personally don't think you have to use gen-z slang for portraying a teenager, but the actors used certain slang words during ad lib because it was natural so obviously there had to be a few areas it was meant to happen (like the amount of times rizz was used, which was slightly cringe I wont lie). I loved every character and I liked how they made such a large cast work. It really makes me excited fo rht future of this iteration (and ty to the last guy, this movie was not spider-verse-ified, it was unique with the scribbles and shiz)
I think I’ve rewatched the gang fight scene more than 7 times. It’s just so good🔥
Great review! Don't have much to add because your comments reflected pretty much my thoughts as well! This movie was so great and am glad so many people enjoyed it. 🐢🐢🐢🐢
Only thing I'll add is that while it was a bummer Raph didn't have much to do in this (plot wise), this was probably my favorite version of him, characterization-wise. He got, like, all the funniest lines. They did a great job having fun with how aggro he is
I love the Gen Z slang in this movie. It’s definitely dating itself, but I think the Turtles as a franchise is in a unique position to just have fun with that. There’s probably gonna be another new iteration in like five years, so why don’t we lean in to the fact that these are the 2023 Turtles, the ones for teens today, you know? And in the future, I think it’ll still be fun. I’m watching the 2003 cartoon right now and absolutely reveling in how unapologetically early 2000s it is, lol. I would rather each version have its own identity rather than one trying to become “timeless”.
Not sure if this makes sense. Great video! I love your channel.
It's not slang lol
That's just how black people talk lol our grandparents talk like this. We speak many ways
I’d say it arguably does not date it- it makes sense for their demographic and age, which I’d argue moreso gives it a good idea of who, where, and when the story takes place, and it’ll be a really good way of preserving language. that’s just my thoughts though
I'm a massive fan of the slang in this movie, mainly cuz its my generation and its so accurate to how kids at my school talk, i feel represented lmfao
If anyone says that a child’s style doodle isn’t gonna make it far, just show them this movie
“Fully encapsulates the exaggerated swagger of a Green Teen”
You know I didn’t see it like that but now that you say it…..
The we outside let me get a bacon and cheese yerrr yerrr had me dead best lines for me 😂
WE OUTSIIIIIIIDE
2:19 As a New Yorker, I can definitely say that yes.
New Yorker teenagers definitely act like how the turtles do in this movie.
Fym “black coded” super fly’s voiced by ice cube. He IS black
About to watch the video and hope you acknowledge that Rise walked so Mutant Mayhem could run
Animation was great, the dynamic between the characters was fantastic, the overall ending message/ dream of the turtles was very milk toast. Overall its a solid 8/10
I've haven't watched TMNT of Mutant Mayhem just yet. But as soon as I saw the trailers & parts of the making of it with young VA casting and animation styling I knew it would be something I'll be interested in. I've never been a big TMNT fan except for the 2018 series which was a banger and I'm still hurt that Nickelodeon did it so dirty. But this TMNT movie looks both awesome and an entertaining fun watch that I'm so excited to see. Love how the Turtles literally feel and sound also act like genuine super young teens of today, as well as the Mutants designs and the overall very gritty grungy graphic style of everything. So hyped to see this movie. 👍🏾
I knew i wasn't trippin bout how black this movie is, especially the little references to songs and the songs used. CMON nowwww.
Wasn't April's original design based on a black woman?
Update: according to Kevin Eastman she was designed to be Asian, but was named after a black woman he knew. Oops
Nope, she always white
@@Tigerkaya not actually answering my questing, but also wrong as it turns out.
"Created as an Asian character but named after an african american woman I once knew. " is the Kevin Eastman quote I half remembered.
@@NyJoanzyYou're spot on actually. April was modeled after a biracial woman Eastman once knew. But then April was changed to be unambiguously white in the first animated series.
There is going to be a new tv series called Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
She was based off the ex wife of one of the creators, who was a half black biracial woman, which is why in her first debut she had dark curly hair and light brown skin, but then was later changed to white. Whoever tells you she was white first doesn’t know what they’re talking about and most likely are just racist.
They didnt have a crush on april in the comics just the recent nick tmnt incarnations and the 1990 film
Loved this analysis. I wasn't even thinking about watching this movie but now I'm intrigued. The art style is SO dope and I like the changes from previous adaptations of TMNT.
The crayon/color-pencil-heavy style is just so choice. It's so good. This movie looks like what would happen if you put every 7th grader from 1990 through 1994's who could draw the basic character designs, put all our sketches and styles into a blender, and then filtered it into 3d. It's so smart, it's so honest.
The fact that people.... people think it's "lag"? I just. People are so stupid.
Why is it so hard to make a more serious 2003-esque reboot with good 2D animation and strong plot? TMNT comics aren’t goofy. They are supposed to be badass.
They had all the exaggerated swagger of 4 mutant reptile teens
My boys look like theyre made of playdough and I've been obsessed from the moment i saw them. Fascinating iteration. I'm still partial to Rise first and foremost, but this one is great. Can't wait to actually see it for myself.
As a lifelong turtle fan I freaking loved this movie. Even as an adult it was refreshing to see them reimagined for a younger audience to fall in love with. They seriously reminded me of my 13 yo nephew and it warmed my heart
Also I LOVED the freaky animation! When artists can feel free to get creative and do something different you can just feel the love and passion they have for their craft. It’s so weird to me that the same people complaining about the art style are the same ones taking issue with “bean mouth” designs.
at least leo’s crush on april in this movie felt more like him wanting to experience falling in love and being in a relationship (ya know, human stuff)
Awesome video!! I’m only halfway through rn but I thought it’d be fun to share-the cartoons actually have tackled the turtles being known outcasts before, in the 87 version! The turtles in that version are well known to the New York public the whole show, and there’s quite a few episodes that deal with the turtles personal feelings on having to still live as outcasts and having to often fight to be accepted. There’s multiple episodes/storylines where people turn the cities opinion back against mutants again, or episodes where they wish they had somewhere to live that was truly openly accepting of them. Obviously these plots are handled with the shows usual goofy lightheartedness (although they do get more serious as the seasons go on), but it’s still a consistent thread for that version and it’s one of the reasons why I’m so hype for this new iteration! We haven’t really had a show play with them as known almost superheroes like 87 did since, it’s really fun as a major fan of the old version to see these concepts be used in a fresh and exciting way!
As a New Yorker, I can confirm that this is the most "New York" the turtles have ever been acted.
I really liked how the turtles were actually teenagers, goofy and self important. It was really cool.
I loved April, she felt like a real teenager. It’s pathetic how grown men are mad they can’t get off to her because she’s no longer a skinny white woman.
Nah it's the redhead part that they replace the getting rid of all the red heads. Look it up all the redheads are being replaced when they do a remake or the same thing it's a weird phenomenon going on. But yeh she did act like a teen but she could of stayed a redhead. ( I'm not a redhead but I see how it would upset people)
@@kobiiboksireficulshe has orange hair, though! dyed, yeah, but maybe the 2012 april dyed her hair too, we don't know lol
@AnonYMous-hk3rg 🙄
Also even I’m not a fan of character getting raceswapped
It’s a bit ridiculous to complain about April being black if she never have a canon ethnicity
@@kobiiboksireficulmaybe try reading the comic
I really loved it. I found the voice acting and animation was top notch. That is for sure
Ever since I’ve watched it Donny still saying “Oh no he’s molly wopping me”
As someone who has never given much thought to the TMNT franchise, I thoroughly enjoyed this film. Two things I found refreshing were the sketchy animation style and the actually teen-like teenage characters. Both qualities of the movie made the story and characters feel much more real and rooted.
I always thought it was kinda weird that Splinter was a human that mutated into a giant rat while the turtles were just turtles that grew in size and adapted human-like sentience. I don't remember much of the tv show, though i watched it religiously as a kid, but I always had this feeling Splinter was the pet rat of a martial arts sensei who merely adapted his master's behavior and teachings. I don't really care what race April is in the series, as long as she kept her personality, wittiness and dream to become a famous reporter. I doubt people liked the character because she was a certain race, but that's just me. Excited to see where the series goes from here
In the movie from the 90s that's what happened, I believe it was turtles in time. They have a scene almost exactly how you described. Splinter in Japan in a cage as a young rat mimicking the movements of his master. I think that was my only con about this movie, I really liked that splinter was their sensei and father. They should've made him like a retired master.
TMNT 2003
In the TMNT 2012 version, where Splinter was a human, it explains that mutagen will mutate you into the last thing you touch. Splinter mutated into a rat because he got ambushed by Kraang droids near the sewers, where there are rats. And the turtles, assuming the last thing they touched was human Splinter, turned into humanoid turtles.
@@ninibugg6203 This was a complicated origin and i feel like it created some major plot holes for certain other mutated characters.. although, to be fair, so does the other explanation considering there's a freaking rhino mutant lmao
@@ninibugg6203i love that orgin story
I'd say that Superfly was something similar to Magneto vs Xavier… 🤔🤔
i grew up obsessed with the ninja turtles ever since watching the 1987 turtles show. makes me so happy to see them keeping the franchise accessible to children and old fans alike. will always love these guys!
As a fan of the tmnt forever, I will say the turtles talking like adults in most versions makes sense as the first comics are more adult oriented. They stab and slice and cut and snap necks and kill Foot clan members. They'd be more grown up in that case.
Making them more teens in this, especially since it's geared more for kids, is fine. I'm just giving my interpretation of why they act more adult sometimes.
The absolute whiplash I got from hearing them play no diggity in this movie when I saw it in the theater is mental like dude that song raised me and now it's in this amazing movie
4:37 Not only does she fit the world of TMNT thematically, I also just think black April simply looks better when paired up with the green turtles, from a pure character design standpoint.
To develop my thought a little further, I think characters with lighter skin tones tend to look a bit too washed out when standing by the more eye-poppy green Turtles. Characters with more melanin tend to create more cohesion within the group, as well as adding some contrast. As someone studying Animation and who loves character design, I really like it.
The soundtrack by Trent Reznor were and all the different hip hop songs were so good. Instantly added them to my playlist
Bro gives me “the exaggerated swagger of a black teen” vibe
Rango, the art style of the characters definitely reminds me of asymmetrical style Rango
yall see the end credit of the movie? they show Shredder at the end credits.
this movie is definitely mid. the childish behavior is just too much of a child. I saw things I would never say or do as a teenager. the animation style was good. But I miss the darkness. Leo's Crush on April was so annoying. Compared to Donnie's on April he was cute to her but he was just cringe. And what's the big topic? They wanna become famous. To get liked by ppl. Yes that's what teens what but not the TMNT. Not for me. They wanna be heros not celebraties. I am a fan since I was little and watched TMNT 2012 and I'm saying it's top tier how should a teenage hero league been written. It wasn't always serious and not always jokingly. Perfect balance. This movie wasn't a bit dark.
I have some gripes with the movie but my biggest had to be the “NINJA” in Ninja Turtles. Like this movie shouldve been called TMT not TMNT. The whole point of the ninja turtles is too live in the shadows but they kinda just ignore that aspect of it
And the turtle crush is just not it. Mikey in the original movies and the bey movies being flirty with april is funny. But in the case of donnie and leo being competely in love with her is just dumb
As someone who’s never interacted with any TMNT shows, movies, or comics, I loved this movie! I went into it completely blind, I only went bc Trent Reznor was part of the music scoring, and I left feeling so fulfilled. The grossness of NIN has intrigued me, so the ugliness of the movie made it super cool. Like when Superfly transformed, it reminded me of the body horror genre. I left the theater like 🤩🤯
And as a zoomer and someone who uses words like “rizz” for fun, I thought the language was really funny.
The Mirage comics, Image comics are loaded with body horror, even the Nick 2012 show. The turtles worry they're monsters but they're cute compared to other nightmare fuel mutants.
One thing i helped the film wasn’t just getting teenage actors,
Seth rogen the co-writer and producer of the film, said that he had the turtles VA’s all record together in the same booth because their chemistry was good and they played so well off each other
So when you have all the moments of them just being kids and being brothers together, it comes off as so much more genuine.
7:59 Yeah at first I thought Leatherhead had a British accent but actually wingnut has a British accent and Leatherhead actually has an Australian accent which is really weird and also in the 2012 series has my favorite version of Leatherhead so I was expecting him to be a man but no he's a woman.
As someone who is a teenager and has been a turtle fan since I could remember, I don't like the teenagerness of this movie. Maybe to you it doesn't seem forced but someone who is a teenager and has said a lot of the things there. First of all, the word "Rizz", no one actually says Rizz seriously over the age of like 11, so that very much seems forced. Them singing BTS, that doesn't seem that forced but they're in a life or death situation they shouldn't be singing BTS. I don't like how Donnie is a weeb in this, he should be smart not a nerd, I didn't really notice him being much smarter than the other turtles it just felt like he was a nerd. Like you said Leo having a crush, it's ninja turtles I don't wanna see love interests. No Raphael and Leonardo rivalry, I understand that it shouldn't fit but I want to see it in the sequel, we had it kinda in the rise movie but that was completely swapped and didn't feel right, and other than that we haven't had it in years.
These following are just tiny little things that barely matter but still annoy me. Donatello driving, I've always though Raphael should drive, no idea why but again this barely matters. Donatello and Splinter having glasses, what are the logistics of that, how did they get glasses made for them, especially since they're animals. April throwing up was super gross too me, I hate how when she threw up towards the end it played it like that was a small amount of vomit when it was like average and still gross.
You are wise beyond your years, it’s truly baffling how the types that are usually justifying and encouraging these types of “teen” quirks and behaviors are grown ass adults, honestly embarrassing. Seems to be less about “authenticity” and more about validating their projected immaturity on fictional characters. Shouldn’t we be encouraging people, especially the youth, to be better? Not be indulging in juvenility?
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This movie got everything wrong about the TMNT as teenagers and removed the "ninja" out of Ninja turtles as they barely act like ninja towards the end of the movie and by the end they completely abandoned the "in the shadows" aspect of the characters with them removing their bandanas and going to highschool/class and Leo wanting to date April
Really didn't like the origin change of them watching VHS tapes and UA-cam videos, they are supposed to be highly trained ninja assassins.
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This is probably the worst version of The turtles as teenagers, the 1991 movie 2003, 2007, 2012 and 2018 TMNT all did a way better job with the turtles as teenagers than Mutant Mayhem.
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This movie really messed up splinter and his origin, removing hamato Yoshi and Oroku saki seems like a really terrible mistake and judging by the post-credits scene we are getting a shredder who has no intrinsic beef with any of the turtles and splinter and has no reason to be in NYC apart from being "reimagined" as a hired mercenary with no connection to pre-existing ninja clans or is even the leader of the foot
I've seen a theory going around that the shredder in the mutant Mayhem universe is actually one of the TCRI security Squad guys from the beginning of the movie who had his eye scratched by SuperFly during the capture of the mutagen from Baxter stockman.
Just heard of you from a ToonrificTariq video. Looking forward to your thoughts on TMNT.
I'm just going to say it but I think its weirder that people would give so much attention to the crush that leo has when his only frame of reference to relationships would be the human world but also the literal point of the movie is about how the turtles are just as human as anyone else. Like the running theme is about accepting someone's humanity rather than forcing them to earn it. Its very weird that people would put up barriers to what is basically a silly teen crush aside from aesthetics and how quickly we are weirded out by that despite the fact that the movie is being praised by how much the turtles remind them of literal human teenagers. But I guess it does prove that when the aliens come we will pretty much district 9 them over trivial shit.
this movies art style is like 3D klasky csupo. strong Duckman vibes which I love
Fun fact: the person who voiced leonardo also voiced gumball from the amazing world of gumball
13:54 i actually like april having a symmetrical face in the movie. I can still recognize her
The 1990s move was the best iteration of the TMNT. It likely won't ever be beat. It is fine that they've re-written this for new audiences and changed all of the characters to conform to new hollywood tropes. However, the grittiness and depth of the original 1990s movie will never be topped. It was one of a kind and still one of the best comic book movies ever made.
must be nostalgia coz i went back and watched those. shit was shallow cornfests.
@@AugustRx compared to these cartoons or the Michael Bay movies? Character development and plat can be tough for some people to understand. You do you, bud
is it just me that absolutely loved how they made splinter from the nickelodeon show?
Some teenagers act like adults
everything was amazing but April, I just cant get over they made her a overweight blogger...and race swapped her, like what is it with ppl race swapping all the gingers, this is literally getting ridiculous, almost all the race swaps they have been doing ARE GINGERS does hollywood hate gingers or something?
April was actually depicted as a black woman first in the original tmnt comics and was later changed to be a white woman with red hair.
@@Justice_H2O point still stands tho. I'm tired of race swaps period it's getting real old.
@@oneautumnleaf2622 point doesn't stand, if anything the white ginger was the race swap
@@cx6k she was black for like one issue dude, 99% of the time she is white, idk why ppl use the whole she was black like 1 time as a argument.
@@cx6k second issue of TMNT she was white dude
the first time we saw a colored TMNT comic she was white and had a Perm which in the time period when TMNT was published white women got perms it was a whole thing for some reason. in the original comics she stood next to her boss who was black and you could even tell even in black and white that she was not black but white, most the picture people use to claim she is black were the black and white comics but the colored comics she was very obviously white but tan.
In 2002, Kevin Eastman (co-creator) states that Pete Laird (co-creator) actually made April originally ASIAN. He goes on to say she was NAMED after black woman. That woman was mixed as was his ex.
He says NAMED after, not designed after.
Pete Laird himself has stated:
"If you ask me, I always saw April O'Neil as white."
and "As the co-creator of the character of April O'Neil, and as someone who has always imagined her as white, and very likely of Irish/Scottish/English ancestry"
most of the ppl who said she was originally black didnt do there research properly and let the media lie to there face about how it really is
I just didn't dare to watch this movie yet. I love TMNT, but I grew up with the 2000's series, and with the original TMNT comics. The reason the 2000's series was my fav is because it was very faithful to the comics.
I never really liked the 80's series,, because it was not well written, and the animation were, lets just say, not the highest quality. ;P It also changed fundamentally the personalities of my two fav characters, so that was a huge minus too. (the reason I'm not too big of a fan of ROTTMNT)
I would really like some new TMNT content to watch, but I'm not sure this movie was made for me. :)
I made the mistake of looking at the comments on the Ante Up Twitter thread, and... yikes.
I saw more than one comment about how April is bad because, they made her "an obese and ignorant black woman."
And like... the inherent fatphobia aside... what exactly makes her ignorant? Does she actually have ignorant traits, or did they just not see the movie and assumed she would be ignorant?
And if they did make that assumption, what is it about April that they are basing this assumption on. Pay no attention to the microphone and tape recorder in my hands.
You know why they assumed she was ignorant 😔
@Mannof1000Thoughts Oh I know. I just want em to say the quiet part out loud.
why is april black
Movie was one of the most fun ive watched in a long while. ESPECIALLY the car chase. When it played, half of the people in the cinema were singling along with it :). Good times.
Black youtubers always handing the mic off like you're in a 90s rap outfit
As a native New Yorker, can confirm, everything here is a bit wonky and covered in graffiti
This movie was a solid 8/10 for me.
Characterization wise? I don’t think I’ve ever loved Leo so much. He’s such a dork and really tries to take care of his family! You can see that burden he has where it’s less of being the leader of a squad and just the struggles of being a big brother. But he’s also still able to be a kid and joke around with them, likely due to this Splinter treating the turtles like kids and not soldiers.
Donnie is also great. The fact that he is a genuine AUTHENTIC nerd who likes anime? Mwah!
Raph and Mikey get the short end of the stick, unfortunately. For me, Mikey used to always be my favorite for this sense of swagger he possessed compared to his brothers. Like yeah he jokes alot, but he’s also really cool. In this film he’s kinda just… wholesome boy. Which is fine, I can work with that.
Raph, however? Kinda disappointing. Especially since he’s ALSO been my favorite turtle! I feel like this film has a very poor representation for why Raph is the way he is. He represents the sense of awareness that all the turtles are cursed with. He feels like a freak, and oftentimes the world instills that idea. Oftentimes people will say he’s all about just one upping Leo, but that’s not quite true. He’s a sad character honestly, and to see him just be reduced to a brat with rage problems is… extremely disheartening. Though maybe the complexity of the character will come back in future movies where the turtles are older.
April is… fine. I do appreciate how they make her more grounded and offer a sister like connection with the turtles as she also feels like a freak of sorts. Though, I prefer Rise April… a lot more💀? That April also had the struggle of feeling like a freak (shown in multiple episodes), but ultimately learned to accept it and acknowledge that that’s okay! And with that boost in confidence, she’d become a powerhouse by kicking mutant butt with a grin! There’s just so much more spunk in that April that kinda has you shrugging your shoulders at MM April.
Splinter is fine. Obviously not as good as arise Splinter, which it obviously takes heavy inspo from, but still okay! I appreciate how they gave him of an arc of sorts regarding prejudice. They handled it quite well honestly in a very emotionally vulnerable way. I would honestly love to see more of him.
Animation wise everything is grunge-fully gorgeous. It all looks like an indie comic you’d find in the back of a gas station. A nice contrast to the more pristine look of the Spiderverse films.
Plot wise? I’m kinda snoring. While I can appreciate giving the turtles a heartwarming and relatable goal of acceptance, I think the execution is rather bland, especially when things go exactly- EXACTLY how Donnie planned it. Take down the bad guy, get accepted by the world. I almost feel like it would’ve been more appropriate if the Turtles had defeated Superfly, but the news reports would still see them all as the villains. It would just show an ultimate selflessness to the turtles, as well as a layer of tragedy over them. Then again, this is a kid’s movie and to tell kids that they may never be accepted but that’s okay is perhaps too grim of messaging to deliver.
I don't feel like they're pretending to be black it's more like they're acting like pre-teens than actual teenagers
Nah it’s pretending to be black, everybody nowadays use black slang and base their personality off black people
@@wompwompcryabttitget real m onkey
What I can’t get over the the fact that they put so much current slang in the movie. It’s hilarious hearing “rizz” and “sus” and it being used correctly.
Something about the Turtles being racially coded has always been cringe to me, so the title that turtles are more "black" than ever kinda of rubbed me the wrong way. Also, the Turtles feel more like actual teens than they have before. But I think they have emphasizing the teen aspect of the turtles since 2012.
Btw, the Turtles having a crush on April never bothered me. I mean as many interspecies relationship that we accepted in fiction not sure why we draw the line at humanoid turtles.
You guys reference the spider verse so much but forget to mention the ninja turtles did it first, jumping between universes to interact with themselves. Turtleverse is the OG verse
I think, when people are saying that, they mean in terms of love and care and having a unique artstyle. Not story and plots.
9:06 ....... yeah, I guess the bar doesn't exist for you young kids huh? smh
THIS WAS THE BEST VIDEO EVERRRR
Black? But they are green.
Imagine Wu-tang for shredder and the foot theme music
April being an obese black women is so funny to me😆
I don’t think she is obese she is just overweight
@@MORAL.OREL.OFFICIAL.CEO. Obese is the scientific term for someone 30% body fat and above. She’s definitely above 30% body fat.
2:16 Yeah that's true about the New Yorkers thing, they were talking about bacon egg and cheese sandwiches for a few seconds and I'm pretty sure that is New Yorker slang there was a scene where Mondo Gecko was talking about Staten Island and the Brooklyn Bridge.
Did you hear that?
We’re black now, Spider-Man.
My literal ONLY problem with this was Ralph’s lack of an attitude
Growing up, I always pictured the turtles being black and this movie deadass just confirmed it
I think it's one of the best animated TMNT films ever.
No.
Why?@@solomid877
Right! It’s so fun! It made me love tmnt and watch all the cartoons.
3:01 OH GOD! Don't remind me about that South Park episode.
I hope this series gets a chance to progress I’d like to see them grow up and experience serious things and mature without losing themselves entirely.