Finnish Vocal Coach Reacts: Lorna Shore: "To the Hellfire" (SUBS) // Äänikoutsi reagoi
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2022
- Anna: "I think I've reacted to quite a few metal bands by now, nothing can surprise me anymore."
Will: "Hold my pig."
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I love how genuinely into this she is getting even if she isn't a metalhead the love and respect for metal is awesome
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She's from Finland, metal is most common thing there!
Hi Anna! Because you mentioned wanting to see what is going on inside his vocal tract, I wanted to let you know that Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice actually partnered with Will to have this procedure done and she will be posting a video in the next few weeks to reveal their findings. I thought you might find this interesting to keep an eye out for!
To Ana, I’ll also add that while we all await that video Elizabeth has an interview with Will and how he found his “voice”😉
ua-cam.com/video/khLLQ2-xnLA/v-deo.html
June 10th on the Charismatic Voice
@@nightmusic8 Thanks for that! I wasn't aware
@@thescantilycladcob it will be a very very interesting video from what I’ve heard so far.
@@nightmusic8 Another thanks for the info. Looking forward too it.
Will Ramos- Hypnosis. You can hear his awesome clean vocals😍😳👌
I'm super curious over his clean vocals now !!!
@@annavaskelainen He did Sleep Token cover. His clean singing is amazing! React to that
You asked whether he is familiar with throat singing. He is. The Charismatic Voice (Elizabeth Zharoff) and Will aired the video of him with a cam in his throat and he did Tuvan throat singing as part of it. Absolutely fascinating it was.
You saying this also confirms what I suspected, which is that he specifically uses those techniques to further his metal vocals. Which is actually genius tbh.
I just love how multiple people who specialize in vocals react to Will and are blown away by his talent. Just makes my day
I can't wait for this, Will is probably one of the coolest guys in metal, so nice and down to earth with loads of talent to boot!
I've heard Will is super nice! xx
@@annavaskelainen beside his brutal voice he really2 kind and nice guy
"Of the abyss one take". You need hear this!! Exelent video :)
Will is an amazing vocalist hands down. But I'm also impressed by your ability to go between Finnish and English so damn easily! I tried to learn Finnish and failed miserably lol
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Lorna Shore killed it when I saw them live. Will (and every member) is an animal at what they do
The Charismatic Voice actually does a video with Will Ramos where they scope his throat so they can see what's actually going on with the larynx while vocalizing the different sounds he makes. Very amazing video. Should check it out.
The Charismatic Voice channel just put out a video within the last few weeks where they stick a camera into Will's throat to view what he's doing to create some of his sounds. It is well worth the watch when you have the time (it's about a 40min video).
It's in my list! Thx for the reminder Harrison!
Oh boy, this is going to be so good!
Can't wait for the faces on my favorite Finnish reactor.
It was one hell of an introduction to Lorna Shore and Will's vocals tell you that! 😂
funny enough, Finnish metal was the first metal ive ever listened to and LOVED. Its always hit or miss for most metal groups for me, but Will Ramos is absolutely amazing!!!!! His one take videos blow my mind!!!
Finnish metal hits different, doesn't it? ;) Will is awesome too!!!
I love it when Vocal Coaches going to: WTF?!
It´s the Future.
It is coming.
Have no fear.
Whatever they´ll may bring upon us!
lorna shore is classified as symphonic deathcore hence the classical feel.
Well, it can be classed as symphonic deathcore. But I think some commentators call it blackened symphonic melodeathcore. Either way it's metal af.
Who cares what type of metal, it's metal. Heavy shit. Just enjoy.
Not sure if it has been mentioned already, but you're absolutely on point about the throatsinging! He mentioned doing Tuvan throatsinging as a vocal warm up in an interview on The Charismatic Voice channel. Thanks for the great video! I'm not a big fan of deathcore, but Will Ramos is so fascinating to hear and watch. Especially with your insightful commentary.
Ohh so he does that! Tuvan throat singing warm ups, WOW.
I'll have to see both the interview now!
Thank you for your respectful comment Florian! 😊 I totally understand why this kind of music divides ppl! xx
those high screames around 3:11 are INSANE and then the drop after ...
Every single member of the band has this insane level of calm to them when they play ridiculously hard segments of music. The guitarist and the drummer both look the same in their covers its amazing. This band is just unreal.
You might want to check Pain Remains part I , II and III. This trilogy is emotionally charged in a way hard to describe with words.
If you’re looking for suggestions, I recommend Spiritbox's Courtney LaPlante live vocal performance of "Circle With Me". It’s so good. Her transitions from cleans to hardcore are flawless. 10/10.
ua-cam.com/video/zMnfkW9UZc4/v-deo.html ehdottomasti tsekkaa toi
So many votes for this one already!! 😍
he is a vocal god! wait till you cover the rest of his stuf i hope you do also enjoying your channel!
Will Ramos doing Will Ramos things... I'm so glad the internet lets us hear these talents!
Wow, wouldn't have expected this here. If you do make another Lorna Shore react, i'd suggest ...And I Return To Nothingess. The instrumentals in that song are so good :)
well that "hold my pig" is just right, Anna, after having seen ALL the best extreme bands on the planet live, this is the best piece of extreme singing i've seen, ever, period... and i've been listening to music for 43 years..... gonna see them live in 10 days, it will be a BALL :) hope i get to talk to Will :) and i'll make onother little home movie just like the other ones on my channel, it will be up soon after :) cheers for doing this one and appreciating the talent :) keep it up !
I'm absolutely loving your reaction to his vocals and insight. They just released a new song into the earth and it is a madness of song would love to see your reaction and insight to that song.
Will Ramos is good vocalist. Awesome reaction and vocal analysis.
I’ve been listening to Lorna Shore since the most recent album with To The Hell Fire and every time I listen to Will it ALWAYS has me thinking, “What in the Spicy Kentucky Fried FUCK was THAT!?”
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I absolutely love your reactions! Keep up the great work ❤
thank you Gregor!! ❤️
hello Anna! please check out a japanese band called Dir En Grey, they one of the biggest in Japan, all the musicians are virtuosos and their vocalist called Kyo has a 6 octave vocal range, possibly even higher, up to the 8th octave. His clean vocals are absolutely amazing, and he's mastered every type of growl and scream. He's known to switch voices completely mid-song or even mid-sentence. His voice bottoms at A1, and he's hit into the 8th and possibly 9th octave live (debated on whether or not falsetto and whistle notes count, but he belted out the G#7 from the diaphragm). Check Vinushka androgynous version LIVE HD to see how insane his vocal abilities are.
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hopingly LS and W Ramos warmed your nordic soul with the Hell fire! Thanks for the reaction.
This is why he’s the goat XD
It doesn’t matter how many times you listen to Lorna or watch these play throughs from any of the band members but especially will it just blows you away!
Gorgeous Finnish gal appreciating metal? What’s not to love? ❤️❤️❤️
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Check out the whole EP for more classical themes in their sound for sure!
If I could once again recommend the band Leprous! Slave live at Rockerfella or Nighttime Disguise give good vocal range, Below is just a banger, At the Bottom is a lovely song. All their shit rocks!
3:30 - The charismatic voice just released a video where they stick a camera down Will's throat so you can actually see hwat his Larynx are doing duringt hese kinds of screams. Amazing!
Thank you, Anna, for another wonderful reaction.
nice and genuine reaction so priceless and youre so beautiful makes me want to go to finland right now lmao 😆😍 thanks
oh boy am I excited for this!
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will is meanwhile the best deathcore vocalist
stop the cap
@@SatvrnCShe’s definitely up there
This was actually really fun to watch your reactions to this song. Really enjoyable.
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You might be interested in this! The Charismatic Voice just made a video where they put a camera through Will's nose to see his vocal cords and how they move while he sings different things. It was one of the most interesting videos I have ever seen
Oh my, are you sure you are ready?
I wasn't
@@annavaskelainen not completely surprising 👍
@@Army_Rob 😂
@@annavaskelainen well if Will didn't completely terrify you and you perhaps want to know more about him and how he makes his incredible sounds he sat down with Elizabeth over @thecharismaticvoice for about an hour and a half. It was a really awesome talk those two had
I love the tritone sound of the guitar 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Yeah it's a gorgeous guitar tone, very soaring and epic yet melancholic at the same time.
Also I am sure that people have mentioned that Opera Singer Elizabeth Zharoff (The Charismatic Voice) took a camera and viewed Will's throat through the scope. It was VERY fascinating!
best reaction iv seen. Thank you
Thank you! 😍
Wonderful reaction! I really enjoyed just the simple example of how much tongue placement affects the sound. I'm not a deathcore fan, but Will and Lorna Shore are an exception.
Thank you for your respectful comment Robert! 😊🙏
If you listen to this treating the vocals as a instrument in the mix, and focus behind the chaos on the lines in the guitar and orchestration it becomes a beautiful, kind of melancholic and very cathartic piece of music. People need to relearn how to listen when checking extreme genres such as this in order to understand why it's appealing. Listening and Active Listening is two different things. The vocals provide energy and direction.
OMG, i didn't see you reacted to this before, i just love the way you were all surprised (That was my expression at first as well) definitely Will is one of the best exponents of extreme voice techniques at the moment. If you want, i can show you one of my favorite Metal bands (With a unique/peculiar female voice) so you can react.
Greetings from Mexico! 😊❤
😂 Happy to know you've found your way here!
Greetings to Mexico! xx
This is gonna be fun
let's gooo😁
I love Your reaction. It is very authentic! 🥰
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Much Love to You! ♥
New subscriber and I already like the reaction. Not even half way though yet. I like you put the words in text. Helps me follow along. Great reaction, look forward to more.
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Anna is a princess with a magical smile) So Anna completely hit the cry-vocal))) New Year's songs are over .......hahahaha What did Jinger do to you ???
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And I’m on his Patreon and one of his tips was throat singing. Great call
Your soul is a pure diamond Anna! Take care and be happy. - Best wishes to You! °__°
aweee thank you Sara! ❤️
Amazing video! 😁
Always great to hear your takes Anna. You made this video worth watching. Do you remember Diana Ankudinova's Rechenka? When she transitions the song to the melody with a wicked, deep and dark voice. She only did it once, for good reason. It added to the Shamanic like trance Diana was putting us through. But to sing in a similar manner for the entire duration of the song, is a bit too much, I think. Not my cup of tea, but you made the journey worth while. Best wishes to you always Anna. 🙏✌👍🇺🇸🇩🇰🏴☠️
Hello, I don't speak Finnish but I could listen to you speak it all day. Also yes, Will is familiar with throat singing, he mentioned it in his interview with the Charismatic Voice when he did tea time with her. The fact you picked up on the link to throat singing is impressive. I don't know how familiar you are with throat singing but there is a discipline called sygyt where the position of the tongue and the very minor movements of it changes the pitch, just very slight sliding moves changes the dynamic of the vibration a great deal an allow you to achieve the iconic whistling notes. When throat singing, we position the mouth over the throat by tucking the chin slightly and open the throat to achieve those really low pitched tones. In harsh vocals it is referred to as "tunnel throat." Where you place your tongue and how you move it allows you to evoke different sounds. You can for example perform the classic type of throat singing and combine it with sygyt (ends up sounding a little bit like a didgeridoo) or you can press the tongue against the back of the teeth to "warble" or different parts of the mouth to effect a different sound.
Another thing with harsh vocals is you can generate them by breathing out but you can also generate them by sucking in (thought it is functionally more difficult because of the way breath works obviously). It's like people who can't whistle by blowing but they can by drawing breath in. Same thing with harsh vocals and you can get some unusual sounds that would be hard to produce with the breathing out kind of harsh vocals. You can also pinch the space when sucking air in to create higher pitches. You can even get it to sound like a wolf howling or a baby crying and you can slide it down in pitch and open the throat as you draw air in to get a really deep sounding almost roar. When Will is doing that iconic snarl he is using both techniques and it sounds like he is using the position of his mouth during that inhale/exhale of those breaths to position his mouth for that hard drop after the snarling.
awww youuu. 😊 oh so he HAS a throat singing background and he still uses this technique!
Thank you for the insight! xx
Love your reaction
happy to know you appreciate my content so much! xx
Well done video, keep up the good work.
Thx! 😊
What a beautiful individual.
He did a performance just like this of a song called "Of The Abyss"
U could check this out
It's very good material ^^
I love your channel, Finnish is a very beautiful language, lots of love from Brazil ^^ ♥️♥️♥️🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
I'll put it in my list!
Thank you for your support Dante ! ❤️❤️
One of my favorite 2 the hell fire reactions
This guy so talented that's why he doing the vocal so effortless
So you go from Lara Fabian to this in a week's time? Gosh, you need an airplane to cover that distance! 😂
YUP 😂 I like to live dangerously
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Try Vaughn Williams Pastoral Symphony back to back Iron Maiden... my old friend Miss wildthing used to do that while teaching primary school kids music lessons 🤣😂
Your reaction was really cool! However, I got more distracted by you speaking Finnish!! This language sounds really nice and I now get why Tolkien based one of his Elvish languages (Quenya) on it! I like that you go from English to Finnish and thank you for the subtitles.
In the interview with Charismatic Voice he said he takes inspiration of the well know throatsingimg that you mentioned
Best reaction ever
I watch this video 100 times😂
That was one of the more fascinating and informative Reactions I have yet to see on this extraordinary performance; immediate subscription.
Regarding suggestions I would love to hear your thoughts on an amazing vocalist for a band called Once Human and particularly their video Scar Weaver, it is a true powerhouse.
Thank you very much! ❤️ I'll put your suggestions to my list.
That was awesome!
At one point I thought Anna is wrecked!!! Haha. I took this time off work just to see this. And this did not disappoint. An extraordinary vocalist and I knew Anna could explain why. And adding up all your information I think it can be said we just watched a brilliant vocalist. Great analysis and reaction. Anna you help me to appreciate styles I couldn't or wouldn't before. Changing the world with music!!!
hahaha I thought so too. 😂 Happy to know I managed to give at least some insight on this!
The world needs more open minded people like you Darold! xx
Tästä kaverista iha mielenkiintone video ku kaverille tungettii kamera nieluun ja katottii miten äänihuulet käyttäytyy laulaessa. Oli aika mind blowing stuff.
Always fun watching people who don't usually listen to screams & growls, but still appreciate the skill it takes
I like to keep an open mind! 😊 who in their right mind would not appreciate the skill set that Will has?!
There's a page on UA-cam called kardavox academy, mark does a video with will talking about his vocal techniques and how he was able to develop them. Worth a watch for sure.
I wish she reacts to Will’s two covers of Sleep Token, I think she’ll enjoy that very much
I will say that is my first time listening all the way through this song. I've tried a couple other times with other reactors but did not finish. Will is definitely a trained vocalist and skilled in his craft. With that being said, this is too extreme for my tastes.
However, I did (and do) enjoy your reactions and commentary.
metal is something you slowly get into and with that being said it takes most people a while to get into the heaviest of bands in the genre. Its not for everyone lol but it without a doubt takes true talent
I feel like this is a sort of comment you don't see / hear enough. You can appreciate something for what it is while still not personally enjoying it, way too many people (not only in music) are like „eh i dont like it so its crap“. Dont know why, just felt like responding here.
Oh boy, I can't wait!
Me neither! Waiting for the premiere chat as well! xx
I like the thumbnail because it's the face of pure terror.
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Huikeeta reagointia! 🤣 Tätä oli odotettu! 🥳👌 Itseasiassa, Elisabeth Zharoff:lta (the charismatic voice) tulee varmaan kesäkuussa (?) Video, missä tutkitaan Will:n kurkkua jollain ihme kameralla 🤣 hän halusi myös tietää, että mitä siellä kurkussa tapahtuu
Jee kiva tietää että tykkäsit! 😊 joo tästä olen nyt kuullutkin paljon, pakko nähdä se homma heti kun on mahdollista!
He's ahhhhmazing. They just did a longer live on SiriusXM's channel with a few songs...mmmgoood.
I appreciate you so much
Your are right with everything you say. And yeah he is making it look easy. And that is one point that impressed me even more when I watched it the first time.
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Nice! Saludos desde México Anna :)
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Great reaction and breakdown, I think you have already done Tatiana from Jinjer and Courtney from Spiritbox (if not they have some great one take performance) and other I would suggest is Justin Bonitz of Tallah (he is also a vocal coach) and his one take performance of Over Confidence. Enjoy.
Excelente 🤘🏻
Definitely a steep learning curve to appreciate this. I'm very interested in hearing your comments.
"This has a sort of classical feel to it. After all the distortion and blast beats of course"
I 100% get what you mean. That is the reason I started listening to Lorna shore in the first place. It's orchestral. Or at least orchestral feeling. I don't have much deathcore in my playlists... but I've listened to (since will joined that is) this ep, and more specifically his 1 take tracks, at this point, thousands of times over. The music is just so moving to me, which is something I never thought I'd find myself saying prior to 2021
Gotta say the half Finnish half English is really interesting! Not a language I hear much... so it's really cool to see it mixed!
They definitely infuse their deathcore with the more symphonic side of black metal, which kind of goes against the trend of what "has been considered "cool" in black metal circles for the last decade or so.
Can you believe Will actually is a really nice guy?
I can!
@@annavaskelainen Me, too. For you and those interested, this interview might well prove it ua-cam.com/video/khLLQ2-xnLA/v-deo.html And I'm quite sure, one should not try similar tones without good training. Otherwise voice might get hurt. Thanks - again - your reactions are really such. Fun + insight + great variety of genres and artists. Not a big channel (yet), but a great one. Deserves being proud !
The 'Hold my pig' in the description made me laugh so hard!
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@@annavaskelainen lovely wink 😉
Now you should watch his cover of Sleep Token’s Hypnosis to hear him sing
The breakdowns in this song are insane! I love the tightness of the band and Will's theatrical and skilled vocals. I also like the consistent presence of melodic elements in the song. Anna, Elizabeth from The Charismatic Vocalist channel had a laryngoscopy done on Will and posted a video of it. There were a few surprises. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/Ua8SuWNPrLE/v-deo.html
Thanks Anna, it's always interesting to see your analyses, even in a vocal field that's not your specialty.
Fun question: if you'd first-watch this performance... muted (so video only), what sound would you guess the song have? Would it have clean vocals? 😁
Fyi, Elizabeth Zharoff of The Charismatic Voice actually has literally scoped Ramos's throat (with his cooperation, of course) in a video! It hasn't aired yet but if you're interested you might keep posted on her channel. She also did an extended interview with him, which is already up.
Imma check these! xx
@@annavaskelainen Hello Anna! The video of Romos's throat being scoped is premiering this Friday on Elizabeth Zharoff's channel at 11am NYC time. Here is the link!
ua-cam.com/video/Ua8SuWNPrLE/v-deo.html
Hi... Recently the channel The Charismatic Voice released a video of Will Ramos recording his throat .... That's awesome, hope you can react to that video! greetings
And when you see his interview with Elizabeth at The Charismatic Voice you just can't believe what a sweet guy he seems to be.
I'll check that one out ASAP
He is like a younger brother or student of Travis Ryan. (He is the best vocalist for me in extreme metal scene alongside with Martin from Gutalax.)
I think part of Will's insane range is the underlying fry he has through most of his vocal flexing. I feel like he is someone who mastered fry before any other technique which may lend itself to how well he pulls off the rest.
will Ramos on kyl rehellisesti ehk nykyajan metalliskenen parhaimpia vocalisteja ja hän on mun isoin inspiraatio mun vocaali opettelussa, ja oon odottanu et joku suomalainen vocalkoutsi breakdownaa tän nii voin oppia viel enemmän willin tekniikoita joten kiitoss, ja jos haluut nii voisitko reagoida sellaseen bändiin kun Black veil brides ja kappaleiden nimet on Knives and Pens tai sitten Born again
@5:53 I think you summed it up perfectly!
Check out his cover of hypnosis if you want to hear his clean vocals 🤘🏻
Nice explanation, very brief but complicated.
❤️ Glad you liked it!