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I've heard this point often enough from multiple people that it honestly depresses me. Looking through the long play videos online for reference it takes the following amount of time for the 6 games. M&L Superstar Saga: 1:32:00 ish M&L Partners in Time: 1:44:00 ish M&L Bowser's inside story: You lose the hammers but regain them about 35:00 ish M&L Dream Team: A whopping 2:10:00 ish! M&L Paper Jam: You start with them and never lose or regain them from what I saw. So... 00:00:00? M&L Brothership: Roughly 1:31:00 more or less Tying with the original Superstar Saga after the first few islands. Depending on if dialogue is skipped or personal play time, Superstar, Partners in Time and Brothership come close to the same pacing with the hammer. Honestly, a better pacing criticism should be about how long it takes to get the first Bros. Attack. The other 5 games get theirs pretty early on, often before you even get the hammer. Like, even Bowser's inside story gets the shell bros. attack right before the hammer. Yet in Brothership it takes 2 hours and 44 minutes or so to get the Red and Green shell Bros. Attack.
the pacing is shocking. the first couple hours absolutely DRAGS on! once peach and bowser show up it gets a better but hard to ignore that slow opening
I think it holds up it might not be the best M&L game but saying it’s out right a disappointment is a little outlandish, and for the series returning I think it holds up the game has some few minor changes but it’s not to much to call the game bad I think there should be some adjustments but most of them were made to drop the complexity of the games to make them more enjoyable, and it plays like every other Mario and Luigi game? This game if I was ING would be “7.5”
I liked the game a lot, actually. It's not perfect, but that's okay. People are quick to hate on negative reviews (which I sorta get after IGNs admittedly dishonest review) but it's important to acknowledge they're definitely the minority here. (even though it sucks because their review absolutely tampered the public view of the game.) Not everyone will like a game, and that's also okay, but people who go around saying it's a terrible game and not to buy it come off as quite disingenuous IMO. Always form your own opinion with this sort of thing!
I do find it surprising how many people had issues with the pacing. I mean, I agree the pacing is slow, but in my playthrough it just wasn't something I was paying attention to, it didn't bother me at all and I was simply just having a fun time. It's easily the most fun I had playing Mario & Luigi.
find a way to integrate mushroom kingdom more with concordians make bosses look more appealing make final boss more intimidating do more with boat (zelda spirit tracks vehicle) fix luigi ai and b button load screens need to be shortened specials need to be shorter enemy mechanics need to be shorter
I think we have to accept the fact that, with Alphadream gone, the series as a whole will feel different moving forward. I do think the new group of developers should maybe work on a remake next to better understand why people liked the series in the first place, because I do agree the game feels different and lacks a few major aspects of the original games. Hopefully the game does well, otherwise we might have to wait even longer for another entry 💀
i haven't played it yet but it seems decent ill agree with you some of your points about the game where valid but others where just straight nit picking now ik its a M and L game but it have been 9 years sense an original game and because the main developers of the game left Nintendo or went bankrupt with alpha dream its not going to be as amazing as the other games but it dam sure isn't no 5/10
Where are my bean spots Why did they kill the damage/defense formula... it feels as if they took TERRARIA's defense formula instead of the old M&L games. I WANT TO 9999 A SEEDLE NINTENDO Slightly more spoilery stuff below. More bosses need their own theme. The final boss has one, but all of the other bosses use one of two themes at random. Exploration is less rewarding when all the spark dudes are on the map, giving less reason to search for hidden stuff. Hammer rally is the worst addition in the game by far... Bring back the infinite bros move gauntlets NO BOSS GUANTLET OR SECRET BOSS!??! I WANTED TO FIGHT SEPHRIOTH!!!! Feels like there is only a little bit of enemy diversity... Sure there are some cool ones, but half of em feel like they're just there instead of that they fit the island they're on.
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for the hammer, there's a solid amount of time before you get it in superstar saga or partners in time
I've heard this point often enough from multiple people that it honestly depresses me. Looking through the long play videos online for reference it takes the following amount of time for the 6 games.
M&L Superstar Saga: 1:32:00 ish
M&L Partners in Time: 1:44:00 ish
M&L Bowser's inside story: You lose the hammers but regain them about 35:00 ish
M&L Dream Team: A whopping 2:10:00 ish!
M&L Paper Jam: You start with them and never lose or regain them from what I saw. So... 00:00:00?
M&L Brothership: Roughly 1:31:00 more or less Tying with the original Superstar Saga after the first few islands.
Depending on if dialogue is skipped or personal play time, Superstar, Partners in Time and Brothership come close to the same pacing with the hammer.
Honestly, a better pacing criticism should be about how long it takes to get the first Bros. Attack. The other 5 games get theirs pretty early on, often before you even get the hammer. Like, even Bowser's inside story gets the shell bros. attack right before the hammer.
Yet in Brothership it takes 2 hours and 44 minutes or so to get the Red and Green shell Bros. Attack.
Man why can’t the internet decide on how good this game is?
the pacing is shocking. the first couple hours absolutely DRAGS on! once peach and bowser show up it gets a better but hard to ignore that slow opening
I think it holds up it might not be the best M&L game but saying it’s out right a disappointment is a little outlandish, and for the series returning I think it holds up the game has some few minor changes but it’s not to much to call the game bad I think there should be some adjustments but most of them were made to drop the complexity of the games to make them more enjoyable, and it plays like every other Mario and Luigi game? This game if I was ING would be “7.5”
I liked the game a lot, actually. It's not perfect, but that's okay. People are quick to hate on negative reviews (which I sorta get after IGNs admittedly dishonest review) but it's important to acknowledge they're definitely the minority here. (even though it sucks because their review absolutely tampered the public view of the game.) Not everyone will like a game, and that's also okay, but people who go around saying it's a terrible game and not to buy it come off as quite disingenuous IMO. Always form your own opinion with this sort of thing!
I definitely agree with your Statement
I do find it surprising how many people had issues with the pacing. I mean, I agree the pacing is slow, but in my playthrough it just wasn't something I was paying attention to, it didn't bother me at all and I was simply just having a fun time. It's easily the most fun I had playing Mario & Luigi.
Can't be worst than Dream Team.
@jaretco6423 Both games are amazing in their own ways.
find a way to integrate mushroom kingdom more with concordians
make bosses look more appealing
make final boss more intimidating
do more with boat (zelda spirit tracks vehicle)
fix luigi ai and b button
load screens need to be shortened
specials need to be shorter
enemy mechanics need to be shorter
I think we have to accept the fact that, with Alphadream gone, the series as a whole will feel different moving forward. I do think the new group of developers should maybe work on a remake next to better understand why people liked the series in the first place, because I do agree the game feels different and lacks a few major aspects of the original games. Hopefully the game does well, otherwise we might have to wait even longer for another entry 💀
Partners in time 20 year anniversary remake would hit next year not gonna lie
I thought the game looked beautiful.
But I guess looks can be deceiving.
@SuperDfar oh visually, it's beautiful for sure. I really love the art style. But that alone isn't enough to carry the whole game obviously.
@@imjustcody Yeah, gameplay is like the most important thing in a video game XD
i haven't played it yet but it seems decent ill agree with you some of your points about the game where valid but others where just straight nit picking now ik its a M and L game but it have been 9 years sense an original game and because the main developers of the game left Nintendo or went bankrupt with alpha dream its not going to be as amazing as the other games but it dam sure isn't no 5/10
it sure isn't no 9/10
6.5/10 or 7.5/10
@@crowmaster9652 at max a 7 or a 8 is good
this game feels like it was made by a small subset dev team or was only in development for like 2-3 years
hell nah man🔥
Where are my bean spots
Why did they kill the damage/defense formula... it feels as if they took TERRARIA's defense formula instead of the old M&L games.
I WANT TO 9999 A SEEDLE NINTENDO
Slightly more spoilery stuff below.
More bosses need their own theme. The final boss has one, but all of the other bosses use one of two themes at random.
Exploration is less rewarding when all the spark dudes are on the map, giving less reason to search for hidden stuff.
Hammer rally is the worst addition in the game by far... Bring back the infinite bros move gauntlets
NO BOSS GUANTLET OR SECRET BOSS!??! I WANTED TO FIGHT SEPHRIOTH!!!!
Feels like there is only a little bit of enemy diversity... Sure there are some cool ones, but half of em feel like they're just there instead of that they fit the island they're on.
who let vro cook
beat it 100% itrts like a 8 - 8.5/10 good game better than most in the series tbh, dont let nostolgia blind u guys
Peak gaming right here
Having IGNorance has a valid point doesn’t work if all the other sites say otherwise
I have played it and I give it a 9/10
the ragebait is crazy
@Bentheminor1847 This isn't ragebait, my guy. Sorry that you can't accept someone else's opinion.
Where did you pull that last part out of? Ur arse? @imjustcody
@@imjustcody everyone is open to their own opinions. But that doesn’t mean it’s always right
@@Bentheminor1847 cry more
whats a twitter user doing here
bro is built like a discord mod that has no real friends
@evilcam89 wow so funny and original man. This is your response to an opinion on a game. Quit the projection.
Also nice homophobic pfp there bud. Bet your parents are real proud of ya 🙄.