In the shot of BumbleBee transforming in the warehouse, you can see he's looking up, likely towards Optimus. Adding further evidence that it's the autobot base.
With wheeljack, maybe his nerdy glasses could flip out to his side and turn into his ears and he flips them over to read or magnify his vision for when he is working on some small part of one of his inventions and when he’s walking with the other autobots, maybe he’s increasing his vision to see something far away and he’s telling the team about what he’s seeing.
I really like that Mirage is apparently going to be the autobot that links the humans to the other transformers, a role that Bumblebee played since the first movie, and seeing that Bumblebee had a intire movie just to himself to shine and bound with a human, it's fitting that they (apparently) won't just replace Charlie as Bumblebee's human partner for a newcomer once again. Again all that I said was just what I deduced seeing this one trailer
@NerdeeeOOO Charlie's story was finished in the Bumblebee film. Even though the producer keeps insisting that ROTB is a "sequel" to Bumblebee, I don't trust that assertion. Why? 1)Said producer ROYALLY f$#@×d up the Snake Eyes film; 2)Said producer has a history of saying inconsistent babble in interviews; 3)We still see some bayisms in this trailer-i.e., Optimus' face, the tag line title card, the glove Noah is wearing (much like the glove Sam used to kill bayverse Stars cream in DOTM); 4)Yet ANOTHER earthly/human related macguffin exists in this film. HOW? Elena is described as an ARTIFACT researcher; 5)The fact that Bee turned back into his first bayverse earthly alt-mode, and other things. One would think that distancing the films from the film style (bayverse) that nearly bankrupted Paramount, would be a pertinent undertaking, yet once again, these filmmakers (who were involved since 07) can't be bothered to completely let go of what they created.
I am so happy that they're taking some inspiration from one of the best Transformers TV shows: Transformers Prime. I can't wait to see Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, Bumblebee, and Arcee in action!
The fact that you have broken down a 2 min trailer with such information and knowledge and in a really entertaining waayy is just great You have earned a sub ❤️
Correction cheetor's daggers are actually a direct reference to his twin blades that allow him to glide in beast machines since when put together in front of him they give him the ability to glide long distances and as you can see in the trailer they come out in a similar orientation to when he's using them to glide in beast machines
My theory for mirage is that when Noah parked his car, it was a normal Porsche. But, mirage would most likely land near the same area as the parking lot. He would then scan the vehicle and then destroy the car or use a hologram to make the original look like it disappeared. He would then place himself in the original car’s spot. But this is just a theory.
One thing I just thought of is could the autobot’s “Safe house” be a reference to transformers animated with their base being inside an abandoned factory?
@@Theorymus it seems possible as just like in animated it’s in an abandoned area of the city so they can transform wherever they wish without the risk of a human see them but then if they ever are seen in their robot form they can freeze on the spot, or make their movements more slow and human robotic like, so Noah could say he’s using the area to work on an advanced robotics experiment for his school project lol
Rediscovering your channel has been an absolute gem. I’ve been slowly getting back into Transformers, and your analyses were one of the reasons I gained a lot of respect and appreciation for the Bay films. I really also enjoyed this in-depth review of the RoTB trailer, since I don’t normally see UA-camrs manage to go this deep with analysis and callbacks of the various design elements, and tying everything together within the lore of the continuity.
Anytime man, I'll gald your getting back into it and I'm even more glad my vids are helping! As a fan I try to leave no stone unturned thus explain the attention to detail haha 😆
Beast wars was basically how i got really interested in Transformers in the first place and when I was young I was like "what" when Optimus Primal wasn't the original and Optimus Prime was, so its good to see Optimus Primal and the maximals once again
I’m looking forward to seeing Battletrap and the Terrorcons in ROTB. And hearing that he’s going to be voiced by the same guy that played Blitzwing, makes me even more excited to see him on the silver screen!
I believe your theory that Unicron has some sort of role in this movie is true. Even though these movies are not even related, I think this is still cool. In the Last Knight Transformers movie, we see Quintessa next to a huge horn, and she says "Unicron. I can tell you how to kill him." I feel this is bigger than we think because a theory I have come up with was that the Autobots got information from Quintessa or the guy Quintessa was talking to. Like this so Theorymus can see this.
Would give this more merit if… you know… this wasn’t a rebooted timeline that escape I ally got rid of that lame attempt to rip off a cool idea from transformers prime
The more I watch this trailer the more I like it. I think it was just a bit shocking to me at first because the new designs aren’t quite what I expected, but I am warming up to them.
I appreciated that Bayverse really paid attention to mass transformation (you didn't have a big vehicle, but tiny robot - or vice versa)...but I really didn't care for the models themselves. I hated that Prime had a mouth, and a "battle shield" rather than a mouthplate all the time. Additionally (at least early), there seemed like there was no color to the Transformers, and they were really hard to tell apart. I really like the most recent models of them the best. Of course, I grew up with the G1 cartoons, so maybe that's jading my perspective.
I think the only reason Stratosphere is only in the movie to explain how the Autobots get to Peru. Cause I think the fight would be over pretty quickly if Stratosphere was involved. Also, I believe Battletrap is actually an undead Decepticon. If you look at Battletraps design, you can see several marks that should have been fatal that have been healed over, including a blast mark near his chest area. So I think he’s actually alive using dark energon. Edit: since I made this original comment, I realized that Battletrap looks like he’s cobbled together with part from other Cybertronians. Look at his thighs for example. It also made me think that Battletrap may just be a bounty hunter and he upgrades himself with the parts of his defeated enemies (much like Animated Lockdown). Either theory works.
@@twister107 well, if he were to be put in it (would've been cool) they could've also put Lugnut in there too (wish Lugnut would've been a character in the movie)
@@riothenoodle Lugnut is a Decepticon. Not a terrorcon. Lugnut most likely is still on Cybertron fighting like the brute he is. He’s one of those decepticons that Megatron would only call on if he absolutely needed him.
Mirage's RotB vehicle mode is actually based on that of G1 Jazz. His powers in the film is based on G1 Hound. Normally, I dislike changes from source canon due to changes usually being arbitrary and thematically unsuitable for a character. But these changes to Mirage make sooo much sense. He is still a race car and has powers that fit his name. Nice composite of elements. Not arbitrary and still thematically consistent.
I just had an interesting thought, maybe the reason Bumblebee upgraded his vehicle mode to the off-road car is because he had to in order to survive the stab wound from Scourge. I’m not sure whether part regeneration from the Bayverse is canon in the Bumblebee/Rise Of The Beasts universe, but, If so, that’s how I think Bee will survive his stab wound, from gaining his off-road vehicle mode.
@@wakspacific6928 something about what you said maybe true, as when he was grabbed by Scourge, there were sparks coming from his neck, the same place where his vocals got ripped out by Blitzwing in the first movie.
@AnEliteGamer I think the reason is way much simpler: TERRAIN. In order for Bee to get around in Peru, he'd need to scan an alt-mode more suited for the terrain that covers most of Peru's land. Plus, I predict he gets that alt-mode BEFORE he even fights Scourge. Why? Because of certain parts of the alt-mode showing up in his bot mode. We shall see. . .
I’m personally extremely mixed on Wheeljack’s new head. On one hand its like MK11’s Sindel recon as it pretty much insults what came before it even if the producers genuinely didn’t intended, but instead of a personality, it’s an appearance. But on the other hand it’s a rather interesting look for him especially with those glasses/goggles, which give him the look of a nerd or an actual science, really emphasizing on the fact the Wheeljack is the brains of the Autobot’s operations.
For those that complain about Optimus primes design if you want a g1 transformation his arm goes to the waist and since his arms are thick and big the waist is small when in robot mode
For my thoughts on the Wheeljack design, personally I'm not mad or angry that it isn't like his G1 or BB Movie design, in fact I think it's decent (I'm of course referring to the body). Instead I'm confused (especially the head) since it's supposed to be a sequel to the BB movie, and to have him go from this, to this, is just mind boggling. But hey, might as well get used to it, and maybe they'll explain it in the movie I guess, Idk we'll just have to wait and see.
The explanation is: HE IS A TRANSFORMER! Energon is a sequel to Armada, I have NEVER heard a single god damn person complain about how almost the entire cast had brand new head designs. Nobody questioned the heads, designs, or even voice actors changing because they're TRANSFORMERS.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv good explanation. It means they can "transform" any body part they want it too look. In this case Wheeljack transformed his head to this nerdy version
@@arzqh YES! Exactly! It's even established lore in the movies that some characters base how their heads look off of other people they admire or honor, INCLUDING QUE, WHO WAS WHEELJACK.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv Yeah dude! Even in the Bayverse its been established. In Transformers AOE, we can see Optimus transforming his arms to a knight inspired look while wielding the Sword Of Judgement
I was done with the Transformers franchise, but then they had to bring in Beast Wars. My favorite Transformers show of all time growing up. I remember hanging out at my friends house before school watching Beast Wars daily.
what I want to see in this film is a scene where the human characters see Optimus Primal and say that he is King Kong, I would get a good laugh at that.
Lol why is this getting so many likes? i made that joke because this movie takes place in 1994 and king kong died at that point (figurtifly not literally)
You made me more excited to watch the movie. Love these break downs. I already love mirage. When the movie comes out can you make a Easter egg video again?
This is such a well done video with some much effort, I’m so glad I discovered your channel when I was getting my GF to watch the Bay films I’ve watched almost all your videos and it’s just great keep up the great work
For the mountain shot, I think they may have pulled a Marvel a deliberately edited out Bumblebee on the middle right of the scene to add suspense and confusion
In all my years of life I have never seen a trailer analysis as perfect as this one. Thank you for this beautiful work. Let's hope that this movie is finally what we have been waiting for years🔥🙏🏽🍿🎥🤖
18:33 I think I know what the reason for the digital alteration is. Long story short Heroes move from left to right like reading a book, and villains are typically on the right moving left, I know this because I learned that in the Tv show Star Wars the Clone Wars the team at Lucasarts wanted to express the inevitable outcome for the cones turning into stormtroopers by animating most of their movements in right to left. (The beginning of the Brain chip arc where tup kills master tiplar is a perfect example) anyways thank you for reading this ted talk I hope you learned something interesting
I wish they didn’t have to update prime’s design so much. His 2018 design was already perfect and with a mix of his new truck parts (sun visor, bull bar, etc); I think it would’ve been a really good design.
Really great analysis. One of the most in-depth ones I've seen. My only gripe with the movie so far is Wheeljack's design. It's so weird that they made this amazing design in Bumblebee only to completely change it in this movie. I honestly don't understand that. Otherwise I'm really hyped for this movie. I hope it does somehow lead into a faithful portrayal of Unicron on the big screen as you've suggested. And I hope we can get some Megatron soon. Hopefully he's in here somewhere!🤞
Indeed. They got plenty of explaining to do why ROTB Wheeljack looks so radically different from his Bee Movie design - ESPECIALLY since his Autobot Comrades pretty much STILL look like their Bee movie selves, since this is supposed to be a Bumblebee movie sequel.
The Bumblebee Movie's depiction of Wheeljack looked a bit weird too, but the design in this movie? No offense, but it is really bad. He's literally a nerd emoji but as a robot that turns into a van. 😭
"They" who made the Wheeljack-inspired design in _Bumblebee_ aren't the same people making RotB, which has a different director with his own distinct vision. He really has little to no obligation to base one of his characters on the design of a background "character" who got approximately a second of screentime and 0 characterization in another film.
@@TristenSarelvun No excuses. Again, since ROTB is supposed to be a sequel to Bumblebee, and since we saw Wheeljack in Bumblebee, then Wheeljack in ROTB should have the same consistency in appearance that his Autobot comrades have. Miss me with all the, "oh, well it's a different vision" 🐂💩. Transformers is the only cinematic franchise where some folks (including the suits and ties making these movies) stop at nothing to justify and rationalize all the 🐂💩 they throw on screen. FOHWTBS. . ."Background" characters aren't characters who appear DIRECTLY in-camera.
I made it to the end, really surprised on how much you've unpacked in a single trailer. Goes to show your determination and passion for transformers and I love and appreciate that!
Aww thx dude! I really wanted to give you all the best breakdown I could since a lot of other channels are just pushing one out for the videos with a lot of missing info
I think it's cool to have a transformers animated throwback. You know, with using a warehouse as a safehouse. Like you see in the show, we'll see it in this movie.😎😎😎
I love the new intro and it got me hyped up, I also love all the Easter eggs you covered and the designs of the characters, I'm also really grateful that Peter Cullen is voicing Optimus Prime again because I really loved his voice. I also remember Mirage from Dark of the Moon and I thought that was Jazz at first in the trailer. So I was surprised that it was Mirage, anyway this was another amazing video Theorymus!!!
Won't lie, I didn't think rise of the beasts would happen until about 1-2 months ago. Its great you're already doing vids on the movie aswell, I hope we get more.
Made it til the end, you’re awesome man! I’m a monsterverse fan so I love it when someone like you can explain everything to the finest detail about transformers. Makes me feel more connected as a growing fan of the transformer universe.
Welcome to the club I’d reccomend watching beast wars season 1-3 followed by beast machines ( watch beastwars before that) and also transformers prime and transformers animated those are the best shows in the series
You know how the Constructicon clones in Revenge of the Fallen only spoke in Cybertronian? Well, I actually caught the Mixmaster clone saying “listen up” right before one of his shields got blasted off.
Personally, I’m not a fan of Optimus Prime having a mouth again. I loved the fact that in the Bumblebee movie he just had his faceplate on all the time, also the Bumblebee earth mode is an absolutely flawless Optimus Prime Design (imo). It is by far my Favourite Optimus Prime ever. I also loved the Portrayal of Optimus in the Bumblebee movie, he wasn’t a bloodthirsty psychopath who loves ripping faces apart or heads off. Also, they got rid of the beautiful Ion Blaster, Why? Other than that, I’m super hyped for the movie, I’m just hoping they don’t bring back the Bayverse Personality for Optimus.
I watched the whole video and really enjoyed it. Must have taken quite an effort, thanks for making it! Keep up the good work! Looking forward to this movie!
Man, I am so hyped for this movie. And I didn’t realize just how much of a tank Battletrap is, I wouldn’t mind seeing him square off against ironhide, or Brawl. He’s most likely going to become my favorite character. Anyway, awesome Breakdown Jason, I was waiting for it and you surely delivered my friend! - E Jack
I'm interested in how the cons and preds will play a role in the future films since from leak screenshots it looks like we're only going to see one of each in this film and if the terror cons will play a role in the whole trilogy or they'll all be killed off in this movie
Hope the Decepticons also make an appearance in the movie, Megatron is the one I wanna see, other than them teaming up with the Terrorcons and and Predacons, Autobots and Maximals.
As someone who didn’t know about all this Transformer lore and backstory, you have made me intrigued for this upcoming movie. Great job on all the researching and editing.
The fact the auto bots have a safe house is vary transformers animated vibes. I hope we get more call backs to that show. It was so good. Be cool to see you look into transformers animated for some videos. Also I'm glad I'm not the only who noticed that prime has the same kinda weapon drop kick had. It's actually kinda cool they gave him that weapon. If anything I thought they were gonna reuse the old blasters prime had from 2007 or his ion blaster in arm canon form. It would be nice to see flash backs to beast wars megatron as well and a flash back to how prime escaped Cybertron.
So, just as some little insight about those statues in the peru parade, i believe they are alebrijes as we know them in México and also known as that in peru (for all i know atleast x'D), they are fantastical animals that have different characteristics from other living beings, just as we see, the humans portray the cheetah with wings, maybe in this movie the ancient humans based the alebrijes on the maximals since they can change into whatever form they want. (Sorry if there are typos in this comment)
You missed a few things with Prime and Optimal's first meet: The humans and rock don't get wet when Primal smashes down. Optimus' shoulder clips into his chest.
I can tell I'm going to love this movie. I love that they're returning to the roots of transformers, going so far as to give each and every single character their original designs from all the way back in the 80s. I saw Soundwave with his old design, and Optimus with _his_
I doubt mariage is Noah's car, and more of he saw it was unlocked and wanted to see what it was like. Since he feels the steering wheel with a surprised look I also think that the place mariage and arcee are at is autobot headquarters.
I may have a theory regarding the railroad. That may very well be where the warehouse where they change into their robot form, is. Maybe a reference to Transformers The Last Knight regarding a private/abandoned/desolate place. Forgotten by the gov to focus on better infrastructure than deal with a grass overrun railroad. Putting in question as to "Why are there 2 humans in this place?" and that may be because they were victims of a Decepticon attack. Rather the lady, than the man with mirage instincts. Regarding the man, he may have been led there because of his skills to make equipment, the one showed when the Primal appeared. His experience and skills could be of use to defeat the terracons by making/upgrading the autobots' weapons. But that's just my theory on it, can't tell for sure if it's going to be true.
This is probably late, but the place where Mirage transforms and Noah steps out is an abandoned train station called Alstom in Montreal, and was used as the setting for Terminal Island in the 2008 movie Death Race. The shots with Noah and Elena inside the warehouse with the other autobots are used as a safehouse area in the same location. So there were most likely just rendezvous-ing at their safehouse.
Actually transformers 1 because the only time I saw starscream die was in the first movie I might be wrong cause it was probably DOTM but I think the first tho
The 1986 G1 cartoons had the best storylines. I would love to see the G1 overall storyline manifest in the movies. Beast Wars should be a stand-a-lone movie with its own characters.
The level of dedication you put into your videos is amazing. I mean, it takes a great deal of effort to stretch a 2-min trailer into a gripping, thorough, and entertaining analysis.
@damian Lyman Here's the issue-since they already gave Mirage an alt-mode that is pretty much identical to G1 Jazz, and since the car that bayverse Jazz was (a Pontiac Solstice) was discontinued , what alt-mode would they go with? Also, since this is SUPPOSED to be a sequel to Bumblebee, but we DID NOT see Jazz in the cybertron sequence in Bumblebee, wouldn't it be a continuity error for Jazz just to show up? Something to think about- just my $0.02. . .
@@chj2 Jazz could be any car that existed in 1994. He could be another pontiac, or he could still be his G1 alt mode. Just because Mirage has a Porsche 911 (Which doesn't look a fucking thing like a 935) alt mode doesn't somehow physically limit Jazz from scanning a 935. At the end of the Bumblebee movie 7 drop pods implied to carry Autobots were seen entering the atmosphere. We can confirm Arcee, Wheeljack, Mirage, and Brawn were in these pods due to ROTB and the Bumblebee Movie blue ray motion comic. This still leaves three slots for other Autobots to appear in the film. If we do see some others they will likely be cameo appearances. So no it wouldn't be a continuity error at all for Jazz to show up.
Really hope that Paramount takes this new beggining somewhere good,it's really exciting seeing how many good things it has going for it,hopefully this is an improvement from bumblebee,more action,lore and transformer fun! Thanks for the extensive analysis,to know all the details is a great thing,keep it up!
The "Seal Team Six" idea actually has a good deal of weight to it: * 2 out of the 3 instances of Scourge brought up while analyzing his design are able to fly, with G1 Scourge possessing the ability to cross interstellar distances. * Scourge's claw-hand resembles Lockdown's hook in Age of Extinction. Combine this with the habit of collecting "trophies" implied by all the badges on his grill, and we can infer that the similarities to AOE Lockdown extend to his use of a gigantic ship to attack his enemies. The team being sent to the ship also makes sense: * Bumblebee is designated as a scout. * Mirage's holograms can provide camoflage and diversions to help sneak through. * Airazor can fly and monitor different parts of the ship, much like how she reconed different areas in the original Beast Wars series.
Also, I've seen theories that the scene of Bumblebee getting impaled takes place in an alternate timeline. Combine this with the idea that the Terrorcons serve Unicron, and we have a good explanation for why the Maximals seem to have been on Earth for so long: they traveled back in time to escape and prevent some horrific cataclysm, similar to the War For Cybertron Trilogy. Based on the badges on his grill Scourge has killed Autobots (including Wreckers), Decepticons, Maximals, Predacons, and Mercenaries. All other factions the Terrorcons meet are subject to indiscriminate violence and death. Additionally, the giant ship resembles a stellar harvester, which may be key to the starting the above-mentioned apocalypse. I don't have any ideas for how it got there, but it's definitely a significant part of the puzzle.
Imagine at the end of the movie we hear David Kaye's voice say yeees as a teaser for future movies provided beast Megatron doesn't appear in this movie
First, I APPRECIATE this video and you for making it. I knew before you said anything that this was a feat to create. I watched to the very end. Thank you.
Another great video man, it's great seeing you cover the movie as we ride the hype train. Also I almost miss this video cause UA-cam notifications suck
Oh wow that was a great breakdown. All your hard work paid off! One thing I wasn't really a fan of in this trailer was the cgi in certain places, most notably, the Prime and Primal forest scene. But aside from that I'm super excited to see this next year!
VERY VERY tiny detail, but another very small change I noticed about Optimus' design for both his robot and vehicle mode, is that he is missing the caps or rather, "hatches" for the top of his exhaust pipes that were present on his truck mode while he was driving on the Golden Gate Bridge alongside Bumblebee in the 2018 film. (This isn't very important, but it was just a very teeny detail I felt like pointing out.)
I watched all of it I believe everything you said, also I'm sure that "Darkness" that Optimus primal refers to is Unicron, I believe it's the Predacons, because it means that the villain numbers have grown so high that it takes the Maximals and the Autobots, and it would make sense because the Maximals would know to fight the Predacons because they both fought in the "beast wars"
I don't like why some people keep saying that the Bumblebee movie series is a prequel to Bayverse. Bayverse is its own thing. It has no future. The Bumblebee movie series is a wholly separate continuity that takes on some key elements of the Bayverse. Like how Sector 7 is present in Bumblebee, or Bee's camero mode.
Oh huh besides bubble bee still literally using bayverse design literally face abd everything literally his model using the Cameron design literally there
@@jfoster8624 Oh huh what a such huge reuse asset let alone someone that a big main line like bubble bee literally has using bay bubble design face and everything and using the Cameron vehicle lmfao.. I love blind desperate ppl if anything the orange autobot in Mars that got killed was literally what g1 bubble bee actually look like. Which no one was gonna watch the bubble bee movie when he looks like that. Fact bubble bee bay design become so well known that been use inspired base in TV shows and others before hand
@@iancruz6617 okay? all we said was it wasn't connected nobody was dissing the look or design bud calm down we know you love the bayverse because your taking things way too serious don't cry alright all we said was it wasn't connected just because it reused the same model it's a simple thought but here we are...
@@jfoster8624 Ok you're the only one here actually and I am pointing out the heavily obvious. Seeing your image friends act like someone with you in all this is hilarious but hey continue ignored the fact they using bubble bee bay design and not the red orange bubble bee g1 that got killed in Mars in bubble bee movie which is technically g1 bubble bee design. Ironic speaking cliff jumper literally does look like a bubble bee clone ironic. And who this WE stuff again you talking to yourself and no one else here post guy not have mention once don't start crying baby over something so obvious thou. I am not sure if the same video but one mention slosly Morphin transformation into oh something a transformers always have done.
Appreciate the design inspired by bayverse TF and beastwars watching those shows back in the day finally a debut on big screen can't wait to see in cinemas 🔥🔥
My only problem with this upcoming movie is how everyone looks like they parts-form, hell it's like the parts just float around to give the illusion that they transform smoothly
I think the reason just bumblebee and Optimus prime were fight the Tera one was because maybe Optimus was going to try and fight the Teracons alone but bumblebee followed him
I think the "Time travel" aspect is quite simple. The Maximals are the decedents of the Autobots. However in Beast Wars the Maximals use a 'transwarp drive' that sent them into the far past, which is how they discover the ancient Autobots and Decepticons. This could also happen in this movie, except because the autobots weren't on the planet, they were just stuck in the past. Perhaps it was them the parade was for, they did something in the past which got recorded as mythology and not history.(Then again how to you explain animal person machines when you don't even know what a machine is)
The parade we see, maybe when the Maximals went back in time, ancient humans spotted the beasts, and since modern machines did not exist, worshipped them as gods? Which could be why we see the animals in the parade.
if they ever decide to recast Peter Cullen for any transformers form of screen media I will literally riot. He is amazing, he also seems, well me at least seems like the type of dude that would let them use his voice after he passes via A.I if he doesn’t that’s cool but if they ever recast the next person has HUGE HUGE shoes to fill.
Honestly since they took inspiration from TF Prime, Optimus arm gun should had been change to the Path Blaster that he used in the Fall of cybertron and TF Prime itself
What the hell is a pathblaster I thought he just had the an ion cannon but built into his arm instead of separated like the barrel of G1 Optimus is ion cannon and the top barrel of prime optimist is gun or identical however the gun in this trailer does look like one of the guns we see in one of the war for Cybertron games I'm guessing the first one cuz the second one was made after the aligned continuity became a thing so they wanted to make it look more like Prime Optimus
I hope the decepticons along with megaton aren’t completely ignored in this trilogy. Also could you do a video on how Optimus managed to survive his fight with the decepticons on cybertron
In the final shot of the trailer where Optimus Primal takes out his swords and sticks them together is also a reference to Optimus Primal in Transformers: Forged to Fight when Primal uses two bars of power, he uses his jetpack to control his dropkick and then combines his swords together and unleashes three powerful attacks. Man I miss Forged to Fight.
Made it to the end! Very good job, I am normally very hard to impress but I am impressed that you managed to do a Video and answers almost every question there is about the trailers. Keep up the work!
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First Blitzwing stole Starscream’s look and now Mirage has stolen Jazz’s look
"Identity theft isn't a joke Mirage/Blitzwing!"
Well, Mirages G1 mode would be illegal to drive on the streets.
Stealing looks is how Transformers have so many characters just ask anyone of the seekers or even Cliffjumper
@@mikeydavid4500 we can’t ask Cliffjumper, remember?
@@twister107 oh yeah, forgot (Dang it Shatter and Dropkick)
In the shot of BumbleBee transforming in the warehouse, you can see he's looking up, likely towards Optimus. Adding further evidence that it's the autobot base.
Bumblebee probably looking at Optimus confused just like wtf are we doing here
Oh yea? And what if it isn’t?
@@peppercola if it isn't, then that's it
End of discussion
Kinda of like TFA where they were in the warehouse for autobot hq
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With wheeljack, maybe his nerdy glasses could flip out to his side and turn into his ears and he flips them over to read or magnify his vision for when he is working on some small part of one of his inventions and when he’s walking with the other autobots, maybe he’s increasing his vision to see something far away and he’s telling the team about what he’s seeing.
I really like that Mirage is apparently going to be the autobot that links the humans to the other transformers, a role that Bumblebee played since the first movie, and seeing that Bumblebee had a intire movie just to himself to shine and bound with a human, it's fitting that they (apparently) won't just replace Charlie as Bumblebee's human partner for a newcomer once again.
Again all that I said was just what I deduced seeing this one trailer
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bruh its entire and bond not bound
@@donkeypox1943 What?
@NerdeeeOOO Charlie's story was finished in the Bumblebee film. Even though the producer keeps insisting that ROTB is a "sequel" to Bumblebee, I don't trust that assertion. Why? 1)Said producer ROYALLY f$#@×d up the Snake Eyes film; 2)Said producer has a history of saying inconsistent babble in interviews; 3)We still see some bayisms in this trailer-i.e., Optimus' face, the tag line title card, the glove Noah is wearing (much like the glove Sam used to kill bayverse Stars cream in DOTM); 4)Yet ANOTHER earthly/human related macguffin exists in this film. HOW? Elena is described as an ARTIFACT researcher; 5)The fact that Bee turned back into his first bayverse earthly alt-mode, and other things. One would think that distancing the films from the film style (bayverse) that nearly bankrupted Paramount, would be a pertinent undertaking, yet once again, these filmmakers (who were involved since 07) can't be bothered to completely let go of what they created.
@@donkeypox1943 ah yes portending ah yes arousal ah yes peggington ah yes transgenderformers
I am so happy that they're taking some inspiration from one of the best Transformers TV shows: Transformers Prime. I can't wait to see Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, Bumblebee, and Arcee in action!
Prime isn't one of the best transformers shows
*It is the best*
@@JayPlusForerunner HELL YEAH!
How is it taking inspiration from Transformers Prime?
Prime and the Bay movies were my childhood
@@subscribidinc4357 When you get to Arcee, The Terrorcons, and Optimus Prime's Energon swords parts of the video.
The fact that you have broken down a 2 min trailer with such information and knowledge and in a really entertaining waayy is just great
You have earned a sub ❤️
There is something wrong about the Arcee dodging the missile scene. Why is the protectile coming from behind the van???????
Yeah dude thanks
@@daveshen0880 cus arcee made wheeljack lose traction and go in a circle to not get hit by a terrorcon missile which is often the end of an autobot
This breakdown of the trailer was well done and has answered questions that I had in the back of my head when the trailer first came out
Glad this video helped!
@@Theorymus I love your UA-cam name
this is the first comment that serves the true purpose of a comment I've seen in a long time
Correction cheetor's daggers are actually a direct reference to his twin blades that allow him to glide in beast machines since when put together in front of him they give him the ability to glide long distances and as you can see in the trailer they come out in a similar orientation to when he's using them to glide in beast machines
I don’t like wheel jack
transformers rise of the beast so I’m probably going to give him a one out of 10
Eh true
Pull out the power gunun! I will relecheth those right quickoapheh!!!
I love that it has so many references to old Transformers movies and series!
I never thought about it!
My theory for mirage is that when Noah parked his car, it was a normal Porsche. But, mirage would most likely land near the same area as the parking lot. He would then scan the vehicle and then destroy the car or use a hologram to make the original look like it disappeared. He would then place himself in the original car’s spot. But this is just a theory.
A GAME THEORY
@@hollownxb8560 *Film theory, but yes.
Thanks for watching.
One thing I just thought of is could the autobot’s “Safe house” be a reference to transformers animated with their base being inside an abandoned factory?
I never even thought of that, it very well could be an animated reference!
@@Theorymus it seems possible as just like in animated it’s in an abandoned area of the city so they can transform wherever they wish without the risk of a human see them but then if they ever are seen in their robot form they can freeze on the spot, or make their movements more slow and human robotic like, so Noah could say he’s using the area to work on an advanced robotics experiment for his school project lol
So true
Rediscovering your channel has been an absolute gem. I’ve been slowly getting back into Transformers, and your analyses were one of the reasons I gained a lot of respect and appreciation for the Bay films. I really also enjoyed this in-depth review of the RoTB trailer, since I don’t normally see UA-camrs manage to go this deep with analysis and callbacks of the various design elements, and tying everything together within the lore of the continuity.
Anytime man, I'll gald your getting back into it and I'm even more glad my vids are helping! As a fan I try to leave no stone unturned thus explain the attention to detail haha 😆
Oh my god the amount of text.
Me too
Beast wars was basically how i got really interested in Transformers in the first place and when I was young I was like "what" when Optimus Primal wasn't the original and Optimus Prime was, so its good to see Optimus Primal and the maximals once again
I’m looking forward to seeing Battletrap and the Terrorcons in ROTB. And hearing that he’s going to be voiced by the same guy that played Blitzwing, makes me even more excited to see him on the silver screen!
ROTB? Revenge of the Ballin'?
I just want to see the movie
@@dracon6206 "Erm actually it means rise of the beasts" 🤓
@@jamesr5436 I think it was a joke...
@@UnknownSeekerProductions yeah I was making a joke aswell
I believe your theory that Unicron has some sort of role in this movie is true. Even though these movies are not even related, I think this is still cool. In the Last Knight Transformers movie, we see Quintessa next to a huge horn, and she says "Unicron. I can tell you how to kill him." I feel this is bigger than we think because a theory I have come up with was that the Autobots got information from Quintessa or the guy Quintessa was talking to. Like this so Theorymus can see this.
Would give this more merit if… you know… this wasn’t a rebooted timeline that escape I ally got rid of that lame attempt to rip off a cool idea from transformers prime
The more I watch this trailer the more I like it. I think it was just a bit shocking to me at first because the new designs aren’t quite what I expected, but I am warming up to them.
Same here dude!
Optimus is just not sitting with me
Is it because it's g1 based or because u grew up with bayverse's designs
@@handyscenario178 Probably because it's trying too hard to be both.
I appreciated that Bayverse really paid attention to mass transformation (you didn't have a big vehicle, but tiny robot - or vice versa)...but I really didn't care for the models themselves.
I hated that Prime had a mouth, and a "battle shield" rather than a mouthplate all the time. Additionally (at least early), there seemed like there was no color to the Transformers, and they were really hard to tell apart.
I really like the most recent models of them the best. Of course, I grew up with the G1 cartoons, so maybe that's jading my perspective.
I think the only reason Stratosphere is only in the movie to explain how the Autobots get to Peru. Cause I think the fight would be over pretty quickly if Stratosphere was involved. Also, I believe Battletrap is actually an undead Decepticon. If you look at Battletraps design, you can see several marks that should have been fatal that have been healed over, including a blast mark near his chest area. So I think he’s actually alive using dark energon.
Edit: since I made this original comment, I realized that Battletrap looks like he’s cobbled together with part from other Cybertronians. Look at his thighs for example. It also made me think that Battletrap may just be a bounty hunter and he upgrades himself with the parts of his defeated enemies (much like Animated Lockdown). Either theory works.
What would've been a fair fight if Stratosphere was in the final fight was if Lugnut was in it
@@riothenoodle well, he’s probably not.
@@twister107 well, if he were to be put in it (would've been cool) they could've also put Lugnut in there too (wish Lugnut would've been a character in the movie)
@@riothenoodle Lugnut is a Decepticon. Not a terrorcon. Lugnut most likely is still on Cybertron fighting like the brute he is. He’s one of those decepticons that Megatron would only call on if he absolutely needed him.
@@twister107 guess you're right. Damn. Still would've been amazing to see though
Mirage's RotB vehicle mode is actually based on that of G1 Jazz. His powers in the film is based on G1 Hound. Normally, I dislike changes from source canon due to changes usually being arbitrary and thematically unsuitable for a character. But these changes to Mirage make sooo much sense. He is still a race car and has powers that fit his name. Nice composite of elements. Not arbitrary and still thematically consistent.
Mirages rotb vehicle is based on the porsche in bad boys (911 964 RS), g1 jazz is a porsche 935. the cars were also made like 12 years apart.
I just had an interesting thought, maybe the reason Bumblebee upgraded his vehicle mode to the off-road car is because he had to in order to survive the stab wound from Scourge. I’m not sure whether part regeneration from the Bayverse is canon in the Bumblebee/Rise Of The Beasts universe, but, If so, that’s how I think Bee will survive his stab wound, from gaining his off-road vehicle mode.
It’s a reboot
Also if they revive him, hopefully that repairs his voice TFP style.
@@wakspacific6928 something about what you said maybe true, as when he was grabbed by Scourge, there were sparks coming from his neck, the same place where his vocals got ripped out by Blitzwing in the first movie.
Yeah the regeneration is canon, Bee was shot with harpoons that went through his armor and the holes always instantly dissapeared.
@AnEliteGamer I think the reason is way much simpler: TERRAIN. In order for Bee to get around in Peru, he'd need to scan an alt-mode more suited for the terrain that covers most of Peru's land. Plus, I predict he gets that alt-mode BEFORE he even fights Scourge. Why? Because of certain parts of the alt-mode showing up in his bot mode. We shall see. . .
I’m personally extremely mixed on Wheeljack’s new head. On one hand its like MK11’s Sindel recon as it pretty much insults what came before it even if the producers genuinely didn’t intended, but instead of a personality, it’s an appearance. But on the other hand it’s a rather interesting look for him especially with those glasses/goggles, which give him the look of a nerd or an actual science, really emphasizing on the fact the Wheeljack is the brains of the Autobot’s operations.
Besides. At least it’s not Q.
i would've preferred if they kept the head design, but kept the goggles resting on his head
Bruh the googles looks goofy asf
@@dr0ne508 ….HAVE YOU SEEN DARK OF THE MOON-
@@hannahw4328 yeah he looked goofy there too☠️
Great job with what you did. I’m a 48 year old dude and remember running home from school to catch transformers and G.I. Joe. Keep it up.
For those that complain about Optimus primes design if you want a g1 transformation his arm goes to the waist and since his arms are thick and big the waist is small when in robot mode
Pretty sure the animators could still work with the Bumblebee design, just look how they cheat with the transformations in AOE and TLK.
@@cebola2k2 what about jolt
Only thing I hate about it is the visible mouth. It looks cursed on this G1 inspired design
@@OG.Trippster agreed
@@cebola2k2 dude dont you understand? that form is cybertronian!!!!! not earthly idiot
For my thoughts on the Wheeljack design, personally I'm not mad or angry that it isn't like his G1 or BB Movie design, in fact I think it's decent (I'm of course referring to the body).
Instead I'm confused (especially the head) since it's supposed to be a sequel to the BB movie, and to have him go from this, to this, is just mind boggling.
But hey, might as well get used to it, and maybe they'll explain it in the movie I guess, Idk we'll just have to wait and see.
The explanation is: HE IS A TRANSFORMER!
Energon is a sequel to Armada, I have NEVER heard a single god damn person complain about how almost the entire cast had brand new head designs. Nobody questioned the heads, designs, or even voice actors changing because they're TRANSFORMERS.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv good explanation.
It means they can "transform" any body part they want it too look.
In this case Wheeljack transformed his head to this nerdy version
so you expected cybertronian versions to be earthly? so stupid
@@arzqh YES! Exactly! It's even established lore in the movies that some characters base how their heads look off of other people they admire or honor, INCLUDING QUE, WHO WAS WHEELJACK.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv Yeah dude!
Even in the Bayverse its been established.
In Transformers AOE, we can see Optimus transforming his arms to a knight inspired look while wielding the Sword Of Judgement
I was done with the Transformers franchise, but then they had to bring in Beast Wars. My favorite Transformers show of all time growing up. I remember hanging out at my friends house before school watching Beast Wars daily.
what I want to see in this film is a scene where the human characters see Optimus Primal and say that he is King Kong, I would get a good laugh at that.
Lol why is this getting so many likes? i made that joke because this movie takes place in 1994 and king kong died at that point (figurtifly not literally)
God that's very mcu 🤣
You made me more excited to watch the movie. Love these break downs. I already love mirage. When the movie comes out can you make a Easter egg video again?
It comes out on June 23rd I believe
@@TheorymusThanks for this video Theorymus i love the video and i love mirage so much already and i watched till the end it was a great vid
This is such a well done video with some much effort, I’m so glad I discovered your channel when I was getting my GF to watch the Bay films I’ve watched almost all your videos and it’s just great keep up the great work
For the mountain shot, I think they may have pulled a Marvel a deliberately edited out Bumblebee on the middle right of the scene to add suspense and confusion
Very possible
In all my years of life I have never seen a trailer analysis as perfect as this one.
Thank you for this beautiful work. Let's hope that this movie is finally what we have been waiting for years🔥🙏🏽🍿🎥🤖
I'm glad you liked it, it took awhile to make so thank you so much for your kind words!
@@Theorymus gotta admit, you dissected this trailer very well
18:33 I think I know what the reason for the digital alteration is. Long story short Heroes move from left to right like reading a book, and villains are typically on the right moving left, I know this because I learned that in the Tv show Star Wars the Clone Wars the team at Lucasarts wanted to express the inevitable outcome for the cones turning into stormtroopers by animating most of their movements in right to left. (The beginning of the Brain chip arc where tup kills master tiplar is a perfect example) anyways thank you for reading this ted talk I hope you learned something interesting
4:28 Technically Scorponok was the only Beast Wars character to appear in Live Action movies
And that Scorponok was probably based on the one appeared in G1. Both G1 and Beast Wars Scorponok shares the same name.
and Rampage bruh
I wish they didn’t have to update prime’s design so much. His 2018 design was already perfect and with a mix of his new truck parts (sun visor, bull bar, etc); I think it would’ve been a really good design.
Man you got a new subscriber, i love how you explained so many informations just from a trailer
Really great analysis. One of the most in-depth ones I've seen. My only gripe with the movie so far is Wheeljack's design. It's so weird that they made this amazing design in Bumblebee only to completely change it in this movie. I honestly don't understand that. Otherwise I'm really hyped for this movie. I hope it does somehow lead into a faithful portrayal of Unicron on the big screen as you've suggested. And I hope we can get some Megatron soon. Hopefully he's in here somewhere!🤞
Indeed. They got plenty of explaining to do why ROTB Wheeljack looks so radically different from his Bee Movie design - ESPECIALLY since his Autobot Comrades pretty much STILL look like their Bee movie selves, since this is supposed to be a Bumblebee movie sequel.
The Bumblebee Movie's depiction of Wheeljack looked a bit weird too, but the design in this movie? No offense, but it is really bad. He's literally a nerd emoji but as a robot that turns into a van. 😭
"They" who made the Wheeljack-inspired design in _Bumblebee_ aren't the same people making RotB, which has a different director with his own distinct vision. He really has little to no obligation to base one of his characters on the design of a background "character" who got approximately a second of screentime and 0 characterization in another film.
@@TristenSarelvun No excuses. Again, since ROTB is supposed to be a sequel to Bumblebee, and since we saw Wheeljack in Bumblebee, then Wheeljack in ROTB should have the same consistency in appearance that his Autobot comrades have. Miss me with all the, "oh, well it's a different vision" 🐂💩. Transformers is the only cinematic franchise where some folks (including the suits and ties making these movies) stop at nothing to justify and rationalize all the 🐂💩 they throw on screen. FOHWTBS. . ."Background" characters aren't characters who appear DIRECTLY in-camera.
I made it to the end, really surprised on how much you've unpacked in a single trailer. Goes to show your determination and passion for transformers and I love and appreciate that!
Aww thx dude! I really wanted to give you all the best breakdown I could since a lot of other channels are just pushing one out for the videos with a lot of missing info
I think it's cool to have a transformers animated throwback. You know, with using a warehouse as a safehouse. Like you see in the show, we'll see it in this movie.😎😎😎
yeah this movie is biting on so much n it's amazing tbh. while keeping G1 looks and just adding slight upgrades is pretty enjoyable to look at
@@Prodreeper For sure.😎😎😎
I love the new intro and it got me hyped up, I also love all the Easter eggs you covered and the designs of the characters, I'm also really grateful that Peter Cullen is voicing Optimus Prime again because I really loved his voice. I also remember Mirage from Dark of the Moon and I thought that was Jazz at first in the trailer. So I was surprised that it was Mirage, anyway this was another amazing video Theorymus!!!
Thanks dude! That really means a lot!
@@Theorymus You're welcome
Won't lie, I didn't think rise of the beasts would happen until about 1-2 months ago. Its great you're already doing vids on the movie aswell, I hope we get more.
Made it til the end, you’re awesome man! I’m a monsterverse fan so I love it when someone like you can explain everything to the finest detail about transformers. Makes me feel more connected as a growing fan of the transformer universe.
Welcome to the club I’d reccomend watching beast wars season 1-3 followed by beast machines ( watch beastwars before that) and also transformers prime and transformers animated those are the best shows in the series
Oh maybe watch the first episode of g1 before beastwars to get some contexts of things mentioned in it
You know how the Constructicon clones in Revenge of the Fallen only spoke in Cybertronian? Well, I actually caught the Mixmaster clone saying “listen up” right before one of his shields got blasted off.
@user-zl5Gift you lying bastard
Honestly, I love the new intro. I am also so exited for ROTB, But there are things I am not a fan of in the new trailer.
Thx dude!
they are...
@@webev what..?
Personally, I’m not a fan of Optimus Prime having a mouth again. I loved the fact that in the Bumblebee movie he just had his faceplate on all the time, also the Bumblebee earth mode is an absolutely flawless Optimus Prime Design (imo). It is by far my Favourite Optimus Prime ever. I also loved the Portrayal of Optimus in the Bumblebee movie, he wasn’t a bloodthirsty psychopath who loves ripping faces apart or heads off. Also, they got rid of the beautiful Ion Blaster, Why? Other than that, I’m super hyped for the movie, I’m just hoping they don’t bring back the Bayverse Personality for Optimus.
@@RealBumbleedits what are the issues?
I watched the whole video and really enjoyed it. Must have taken quite an effort, thanks for making it! Keep up the good work! Looking forward to this movie!
Man, I am so hyped for this movie. And I didn’t realize just how much of a tank Battletrap is, I wouldn’t mind seeing him square off against ironhide, or Brawl. He’s most likely going to become my favorite character. Anyway, awesome Breakdown Jason, I was waiting for it and you surely delivered my friend! - E Jack
I'm interested in how the cons and preds will play a role in the future films since from leak screenshots it looks like we're only going to see one of each in this film and if the terror cons will play a role in the whole trilogy or they'll all be killed off in this movie
Hope the Decepticons also make an appearance in the movie, Megatron is the one I wanna see, other than them teaming up with the Terrorcons and and Predacons, Autobots and Maximals.
As someone who didn’t know about all this Transformer lore and backstory, you have made me intrigued for this upcoming movie. Great job on all the researching and editing.
@user-zl5Gift bot
The fact the auto bots have a safe house is vary transformers animated vibes. I hope we get more call backs to that show. It was so good. Be cool to see you look into transformers animated for some videos. Also I'm glad I'm not the only who noticed that prime has the same kinda weapon drop kick had. It's actually kinda cool they gave him that weapon. If anything I thought they were gonna reuse the old blasters prime had from 2007 or his ion blaster in arm canon form. It would be nice to see flash backs to beast wars megatron as well and a flash back to how prime escaped Cybertron.
Beast Wars was my introduction to the transformers franchise beside knowing they were a thing. I'm pretty excited for this one.
So, just as some little insight about those statues in the peru parade, i believe they are alebrijes as we know them in México and also known as that in peru (for all i know atleast x'D), they are fantastical animals that have different characteristics from other living beings, just as we see, the humans portray the cheetah with wings, maybe in this movie the ancient humans based the alebrijes on the maximals since they can change into whatever form they want. (Sorry if there are typos in this comment)
That's very interesting 🤔 thanks for the clarification that's actually really cool!
You missed a few things with Prime and Optimal's first meet: The humans and rock don't get wet when Primal smashes down. Optimus' shoulder clips into his chest.
Made it to the end, absolutely loved this breakdown fantastic job
I can tell I'm going to love this movie. I love that they're returning to the roots of transformers, going so far as to give each and every single character their original designs from all the way back in the 80s. I saw Soundwave with his old design, and Optimus with _his_
I doubt mariage is Noah's car, and more of he saw it was unlocked and wanted to see what it was like. Since he feels the steering wheel with a surprised look I also think that the place mariage and arcee are at is autobot headquarters.
It’s amazingly interesting how tiny little details can give so many context clues. Made it to the end!
I'm so excited for this movie. I hope it turns out really good
Same here dude!
I may have a theory regarding the railroad.
That may very well be where the warehouse where they change into their robot form, is. Maybe a reference to Transformers The Last Knight regarding a private/abandoned/desolate place. Forgotten by the gov to focus on better infrastructure than deal with a grass overrun railroad.
Putting in question as to "Why are there 2 humans in this place?" and that may be because they were victims of a Decepticon attack. Rather the lady, than the man with mirage instincts.
Regarding the man, he may have been led there because of his skills to make equipment, the one showed when the Primal appeared. His experience and skills could be of use to defeat the terracons by making/upgrading the autobots' weapons.
But that's just my theory on it, can't tell for sure if it's going to be true.
This is probably late, but the place where Mirage transforms and Noah steps out is an abandoned train station called Alstom in Montreal, and was used as the setting for Terminal Island in the 2008 movie Death Race. The shots with Noah and Elena inside the warehouse with the other autobots are used as a safehouse area in the same location. So there were most likely just rendezvous-ing at their safehouse.
I hope in a future transformers film or maybe post credits we see Megatron
Because we have not even seen him yet
Fact:When Optimus Primal beats his chest at Noah you can see Noah with the same weapon that Sam Witwiky had to kill Starscream in Transformers DOTM
Actually transformers 1 because the only time I saw starscream die was in the first movie I might be wrong cause it was probably DOTM but I think the first tho
The 1986 G1 cartoons had the best storylines. I would love to see the G1 overall storyline manifest in the movies. Beast Wars should be a stand-a-lone movie with its own characters.
If we get to see both Megatrons, they should be voiced by Frank Welker and David Kaye
Welker definitely coming back but idk if Kaye is
I love how this guy can point out more of this stuff than most breakdown videos!
Haha thx!
@Callmejoey you know what I meant
@@Theorymus the only one that's missing is rattrap dinobot and tigertron
@@Theorymus i am the real optimus prime
@@Theorymus I am from Rise of the beast!
The level of dedication you put into your videos is amazing. I mean, it takes a great deal of effort to stretch a 2-min trailer into a gripping, thorough, and entertaining analysis.
I think bumblebee gets the off-road look after he got stabbed by scourge, which means he must have been injured and out of commission for a time
I'm hoping we can see Ironhide, jazz,
and ratchet make their appearance too. After all, them 3 characters were amongst the most important ones.
Maybe. Who knows which characters make cameo appearances.
@damian Lyman Here's the issue-since they already gave Mirage an alt-mode that is pretty much identical to G1 Jazz, and since the car that bayverse Jazz was (a Pontiac Solstice) was discontinued , what alt-mode would they go with? Also, since this is SUPPOSED to be a sequel to Bumblebee, but we DID NOT see Jazz in the cybertron sequence in Bumblebee, wouldn't it be a continuity error for Jazz just to show up? Something to think about- just my $0.02. . .
@@chj2 Jazz could be any car that existed in 1994. He could be another pontiac, or he could still be his G1 alt mode. Just because Mirage has a Porsche 911 (Which doesn't look a fucking thing like a 935) alt mode doesn't somehow physically limit Jazz from scanning a 935.
At the end of the Bumblebee movie 7 drop pods implied to carry Autobots were seen entering the atmosphere. We can confirm Arcee, Wheeljack, Mirage, and Brawn were in these pods due to ROTB and the Bumblebee Movie blue ray motion comic. This still leaves three slots for other Autobots to appear in the film. If we do see some others they will likely be cameo appearances. So no it wouldn't be a continuity error at all for Jazz to show up.
The part where Noah gets into Mirage does remind me a lot about how Jack and Arcee first met in Transformers Prime.
Really hope that Paramount takes this new beggining somewhere good,it's really exciting seeing how many good things it has going for it,hopefully this is an improvement from bumblebee,more action,lore and transformer fun!
Thanks for the extensive analysis,to know all the details is a great thing,keep it up!
For me this movie delivered in everything you mentioned in this comment, idk if yo y felt that way but I certainly did!
This felt way shorter than it should've been...which is good cause the faster things fly by the more fun your having👌
The "Seal Team Six" idea actually has a good deal of weight to it:
* 2 out of the 3 instances of Scourge brought up while analyzing his design are able to fly, with G1 Scourge possessing the ability to cross interstellar distances.
* Scourge's claw-hand resembles Lockdown's hook in Age of Extinction. Combine this with the habit of collecting "trophies" implied by all the badges on his grill, and we can infer that the similarities to AOE Lockdown extend to his use of a gigantic ship to attack his enemies.
The team being sent to the ship also makes sense:
* Bumblebee is designated as a scout.
* Mirage's holograms can provide camoflage and diversions to help sneak through.
* Airazor can fly and monitor different parts of the ship, much like how she reconed different areas in the original Beast Wars series.
Also, I've seen theories that the scene of Bumblebee getting impaled takes place in an alternate timeline. Combine this with the idea that the Terrorcons serve Unicron, and we have a good explanation for why the Maximals seem to have been on Earth for so long: they traveled back in time to escape and prevent some horrific cataclysm, similar to the War For Cybertron Trilogy.
Based on the badges on his grill Scourge has killed Autobots (including Wreckers), Decepticons, Maximals, Predacons, and Mercenaries. All other factions the Terrorcons meet are subject to indiscriminate violence and death. Additionally, the giant ship resembles a stellar harvester, which may be key to the starting the above-mentioned apocalypse. I don't have any ideas for how it got there, but it's definitely a significant part of the puzzle.
Imagine at the end of the movie we hear David Kaye's voice say yeees as a teaser for future movies provided beast Megatron doesn't appear in this movie
I love your videos, they always help me understand some stuff I never understood in the tf movies
Thanks man, I'm glad you found them helpful!
First, I APPRECIATE this video and you for making it. I knew before you said anything that this was a feat to create. I watched to the very end.
Thank you.
I kinda love the fact that Optimus has his energon blades in this movie. It looks nice with the G1-like form of him.
Another great video man, it's great seeing you cover the movie as we ride the hype train. Also I almost miss this video cause UA-cam notifications suck
Bro your knowledge is unbelievable!
It is so disappointing that Dylan O'brien won't come back as Bumblebee
I love his voice for bee
@@Theorymus me too man
Blitzwing did take Bee's voice unfortunately😒
Oh wow that was a great breakdown. All your hard work paid off! One thing I wasn't really a fan of in this trailer was the cgi in certain places, most notably, the Prime and Primal forest scene. But aside from that I'm super excited to see this next year!
I don’t think the cgi is done. In that forest scene.
VERY VERY tiny detail, but another very small change I noticed about Optimus' design for both his robot and vehicle mode, is that he is missing the caps or rather, "hatches" for the top of his exhaust pipes that were present on his truck mode while he was driving on the Golden Gate Bridge alongside Bumblebee in the 2018 film.
(This isn't very important, but it was just a very teeny detail I felt like pointing out.)
I watched all of it I believe everything you said, also I'm sure that "Darkness" that Optimus primal refers to is Unicron, I believe it's the Predacons, because it means that the villain numbers have grown so high that it takes the Maximals and the Autobots, and it would make sense because the Maximals would know to fight the Predacons because they both fought in the "beast wars"
I don't like why some people keep saying that the Bumblebee movie series is a prequel to Bayverse. Bayverse is its own thing. It has no future. The Bumblebee movie series is a wholly separate continuity that takes on some key elements of the Bayverse. Like how Sector 7 is present in Bumblebee, or Bee's camero mode.
Oh huh besides bubble bee still literally using bayverse design literally face abd everything literally his model using the Cameron design literally there
@@iancruz6617 reusing assets and CGI models isn't enough to connect it to the bayverse .
@@jfoster8624 Oh huh what a such huge reuse asset let alone someone that a big main line like bubble bee literally has using bay bubble design face and everything and using the Cameron vehicle lmfao.. I love blind desperate ppl if anything the orange autobot in Mars that got killed was literally what g1 bubble bee actually look like. Which no one was gonna watch the bubble bee movie when he looks like that. Fact bubble bee bay design become so well known that been use inspired base in TV shows and others before hand
@@iancruz6617 okay? all we said was it wasn't connected nobody was dissing the look or design bud calm down we know you love the bayverse because your taking things way too serious don't cry alright all we said was it wasn't connected just because it reused the same model it's a simple thought but here we are...
@@jfoster8624 Ok you're the only one here actually and I am pointing out the heavily obvious. Seeing your image friends act like someone with you in all this is hilarious but hey continue ignored the fact they using bubble bee bay design and not the red orange bubble bee g1 that got killed in Mars in bubble bee movie which is technically g1 bubble bee design. Ironic speaking cliff jumper literally does look like a bubble bee clone ironic. And who this WE stuff again you talking to yourself and no one else here post guy not have mention once don't start crying baby over something so obvious thou. I am not sure if the same video but one mention slosly Morphin transformation into oh something a transformers always have done.
I swear, I really ducking loved the bayverse design of Optimus, it’s gonna be so sad to see it go.
Yes but i love the G1 look too when they showed Mr prime in bayverse in the cabover form the inner child in me woke up
Appreciate the design inspired by bayverse TF and beastwars watching those shows back in the day finally a debut on big screen can't wait to see in cinemas 🔥🔥
Love the videos. Thanks for this. Keep up the good work
Love this living legend😊he does everything transformers,hope he gets more support
My only problem with this upcoming movie is how everyone looks like they parts-form, hell it's like the parts just float around to give the illusion that they transform smoothly
Hopefully they will fix that
I think the reason just bumblebee and Optimus prime were fight the Tera one was because maybe Optimus was going to try and fight the Teracons alone but bumblebee followed him
That was well done my friend! Of course went all the way! Thank you
I think the "Time travel" aspect is quite simple. The Maximals are the decedents of the Autobots. However in Beast Wars the Maximals use a 'transwarp drive' that sent them into the far past, which is how they discover the ancient Autobots and Decepticons. This could also happen in this movie, except because the autobots weren't on the planet, they were just stuck in the past.
Perhaps it was them the parade was for, they did something in the past which got recorded as mythology and not history.(Then again how to you explain animal person machines when you don't even know what a machine is)
The parade we see, maybe when the Maximals went back in time, ancient humans spotted the beasts, and since modern machines did not exist, worshipped them as gods? Which could be why we see the animals in the parade.
I watched the trailer a many
times it was still pretty good and awesome I'm ready to see Transformers rise of the Beasts
if they ever decide to recast Peter Cullen for any transformers form of screen media I will literally riot. He is amazing, he also seems, well me at least seems like the type of dude that would let them use his voice after he passes via A.I if he doesn’t that’s cool but if they ever recast the next person has HUGE HUGE shoes to fill.
Honestly since they took inspiration from TF Prime, Optimus arm gun should had been change to the Path Blaster that he used in the Fall of cybertron and TF Prime itself
What the hell is a pathblaster I thought he just had the an ion cannon but built into his arm instead of separated like the barrel of G1 Optimus is ion cannon and the top barrel of prime optimist is gun or identical however the gun in this trailer does look like one of the guns we see in one of the war for Cybertron games I'm guessing the first one cuz the second one was made after the aligned continuity became a thing so they wanted to make it look more like Prime Optimus
I hope the decepticons along with megaton aren’t completely ignored in this trilogy. Also could you do a video on how Optimus managed to survive his fight with the decepticons on cybertron
In the final shot of the trailer where Optimus Primal takes out his swords and sticks them together is also a reference to Optimus Primal in Transformers: Forged to Fight when Primal uses two bars of power, he uses his jetpack to control his dropkick and then combines his swords together and unleashes three powerful attacks. Man I miss Forged to Fight.
RIP FTF
Another high quality upload from the one and only 🙏
Thank you sir!
I watched all 47 minutes and 32 seconds of this video. I think this movie is gonna be cool
Let's goooo!
Made it to the end! Very good job, I am normally very hard to impress but I am impressed that you managed to do a Video and answers almost every question there is about the trailers. Keep up the work!
Pretty funny how your thumbnail and title are just like the ones form Canadian lad lol
"Because it's all part of the plan" -Joker
The final battle shot is reminiscent of the battle at the end of the TFP Opening scene
I enjoyed my 48 minutes..Good job man♥️
I'm glad you enjoyed 🤘
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