@@Theorymus what will be your next theory who is loader what if I survived wheeljack what if I survived sideways who is trench the hidden brawls like what’s next
One of my favorite hidden details is when Optimus fights Megatron, Megatron actually fires his gun before having his spine ripped out. Not only is that cool but the funny part is that he misses...and if that wasn't enough his gun was a shotgun, the whole point of a shotgun is that you get close to something, you shoot and its dead. So this adds up to my Megatron having brain damage theory lol
As far as I know .....Megs was loading his shotgun right when optimus charged at him wit his axe.(seriously how could he forget 2 load it... oh right ...Brain damage lol😂)bcoz optimus had to load that gun right before shooting sentinel
That's because it's a heat sword, and it lost connection to it's power source (presumably Optimus) weird how inconsistently consistent these movies can be
@@dilloon7626 energon fueling lasts a while, like how jazz survived several minutes while being split in half, evident by his arm cannon being retrarcted and ironhide's dialogue "we couldn't save him" implying that a transformer will only die instantly when hit in their spark, so the same could apply for the heat sword
Many of these film mistakes actually have legitimate excuses for happening. One example being the cleaners shop Sam was thrown into. The scene was filmed in two different areas. The second area was specifically made to be destroyed in a few seconds scene, so that's why the bricks are so visible and odd looking, as well as not being 1-1 with the original scene.
Here's one, in a focus shot where Megatron is sitting on the chair in the Lincoln memorial, you can see his legs clipping through the base of the chair. (Specifically his wheels.)
That's a misconception and not a mistake. Megatron's leg wheels weren't actually clipping through anything, they were simply behind the stairs leading up to the seat which made them _appear_ to be clipping.
I have studied the forest battle in Revenge of the Fallen in 0.25x as well. It begins in... The Foundation Save: As Sam(S) was about to be dissected by “ze doctor”, Optimus Prime(OP) crashes down from the ceiling, as does Bumblebee(BB), runs from the wall, grabbing his arm cannon to fire at SS, as SS tries to run and gun. S runs away to get out of the fight. OP jumps into the air dodging the gap, and grabbing his second ion cannon, as Megatron(M) jumps on wall and flips to where OP was, but firing and dodging each other’s shots. SS tries to jump OP from behind, but OP whacks SS with his right ion gun, and hits SS three times and a miss, with SS fleeing the scene from the window. OP soon turns around to fire a bullet at M, within that time, M jumps into the bullet’s way, falling back, crashes outside of the foundation, and hits the ground. BB drives away with the Megan and Theory boy, as M gets up, then transforms into his cybertronion tank, and drives off to another pathway. “Sam!” OP shouts as he gets off. S gets into OP, driving into a forest, BB escorts the other two to a safer location. Which leads to… The Forest Battle: As S and OP drive into a forest, M soon catches up to them, misfiring a pulse bullet, then both OP and M transform, with OP holding S while M jumps on OP, having OP drop S into a small patch with trees. “Hide Sam!” OP shouted as he fends off M, punching on his left side of his M’s head, with M charging at OP, crashing into the dirt ground. S tries to catch up, while trying to hide. “Weak!” As OP grabs a tree, and hits him from above. “Puny!” OP shouts as he punches M from the back, the M swings with his arm cannon, but OP dodges under it, and swings back with his right forearm, causing M to fall back. OP switches his right arm into the energon sword, and pierces M in his top left shoulder. “Junkyard coward!” OP yells out as he grabs M by his back, lifting him and smashing him down. “Decepticons!” M called out. Two decepticons were summoned, one being Grindor(G) transforming and crashing into the forest, catching his balance, and grabbing his rotor saw. The other, with being Starscream(SS), flies into the scene, shooting a tree down, transforms, smashes a tree, grabs another tree, breaks it, and pulls it out. “Come here, boy…” SS said, while grabbing his right minigun, and charges at S. As S runs away from SS, in the background, M gets slashed by OP, then M turns around, assisting SS to get S. OP charges from the trees, tackling M down. OP grabs M’s leg, hitting it with his arm, then kicks him with his knee into the trees. SS hovers and fires, attempting to tackle OP, but OP gets the upper hand, grabbing SS by the shoulders, lifting him up, SS tries to shoot him and fight back, but as M gets back up to attack, OP performs a left back-kick, making M to fall back, and lifts SS up, and kicking him on the head, with SS flipping over, and crashes into the ground. Scene flips into BB and Sideswipe driving towards their location(I think). “There’s another source of energon hidden on this planet, the boy can lead us to it.” M said. S hides behind a log, then comes out to run towards the fight. M runs at OP with a hug, and gets slashed by OP. SS flies in, punching OP on the head, G grabs OP’s head, trying to cut him, OP attempts an elbow hit at G’s head, but resisted and cuts his thorax with his rotor saw. G passes OP to SS, grabbing his left arm, and cuts OP with his saw, OP tries to hit SS, but SS swings his saw again back at OP. M swings his arm cannon at his back and grabs OP, and slams him into a group of dead trees. As OP gets up, M turns around to do a right side kick, weakening OP and loses his mouth guard. “Optimus!!” S shouted. OP backs up, getting shot by SS’s minigun and missile launcher, M slams OP, and fires point blank range at OP’s chest, being pushed back very far, rushing and flipping on the dirt, and spits out a piece of debris. “Is the future of our race not worth a single human life?” M questioning OP, “G-get up!” S shouts to OP. “you’ll never stop at one,” OP said, grabbing both of his energon swords, “I’ll take you all on!” OP charges at the three decepticons. S takes cover in the roots of a log, OP stabs SS in the top right shoulder, G attempts to cut OP with his rotor saw, but OP ducked and swings SS, causing SS to slip and misfire and crashes at M, making them both fall, then OP cuts G’s main rotors, grabs and slices G’s right forearm, flying towards M, who’s taking the shot, misfired when G’s arm flew to him. SS stood back up to charge, but OP got the advantage, swung his energon sword to stun SS, then going on his back to turn around, with G firing at them, OP forced SS to fire a missile, flying to G’s main rotor, backing up from the explosion, and OP threw his right energon sword at G’s right leg, stunning him. OP gets a hold on SS’s arms, and headbutts him, falling back. OP runs and stabs M’s left leg, and pulls it, getting a small piece of armor off, stabs again, but on his left thorax, falling down, OP stabs M’s left shoulder, and gets punched then uppercutted by OP, falling all the way back. OP runs at SS, grabs his right arm, and cuts it with his energon sword, and swings and throws the arm at him, ending his scene. OP grabs his energon hooks, grabs G’s head, getting a grip on his eyes, “No prime please…” G begged, then Op tearing his head in half, “Noooooo!” G screamed as his head was ripped in half. OP grabs G’s back to get down, and throws the Decepticon's body down. “Piece of tin can.” Op muttered as he got down. “Sam, where are you?” Injured OP said. M gets behind, grabs his left shoulder, and stabs OP through his chest with his cannon blade. “You're so weak.” M said, as he fired through OP’s chest, causing OP to die, shot near his spark, falling down. “Sam, run, run…” OP advises S as he dies. As S runs away, autobot reinforcement comes, shooting and backing up S, BB picks up S, driving away. SS and M fire back and fly away. This ends the Forest battle.
Fun fact: in revenge of the fallen, during the scene where the fallen steals the matrix from prime he decapitates a soldier completely with his staff. Fun fact: in dark of the moon, when one of the office workers tries to operate laser beam disguised as a printer, the worker “accidentally” plays the “robots in disguise” theme. Imdietly after, laserbeak transforms.
5:06 This actually happened again during "The Last Knight" When Optimus lands on cybertron to meet Quintessa when he gets up from impact he grouns but his mouth his shut, then they animate his lips when he says "my world what has happened to my world"
My Theory on Bumblebee's head being more siiver is something to deal with his transformation meaning is this could help aid him into transforming from robot mode to vehicle mode vice versa much more quicker in a dire situation (Autibots vs Sentenal Prime) also similar occurance in the 07 sector 7 scene.
I'm surprised you didn't notice that during the highway scene the over head sign switches the way it's facing in the scene. When it first falls it's pointing straight up the when the other dread bots drive up it becomes a ramp all of sudden and it's facing the opposite direction. Another cool fact, Megatron's foot is clipping through Abraham Lincoln's chair in the pillars scene in DC.
Depends on whether starscream joins the autobots before are after the first film. If he joins before the first film then there probably wouldn't have been any films as starscream was likely leading the decepticons in megatrons absence. Without starscream leading the effort to revive him, we would be waiting on soundwave to show in rotf to take charge and awaken boss man so rotf would just be the 07 film with a different lineup If screamer joined after the first film, I'm not sure how much difference it would make because he got nerfed big time. Ironhide was scared of him in the first film and he did a lot of damage to the bots but in rotf he's a coward and the only time we see him fighting, he's losing in a 3 on 1 against prime. If starscream had defected, the fight would likely have been a 2 on 2. We know from the extended footage that all 3 cons were giving prime hell so change that to a 2 on 2 and starscream could've dealt with grindor while prime fights megatron. This likely would've resulted in a victory as megatron was losing to optimus before calling for reinforcements since his new form, including his heavy, hard to control lobster claw, severely hampers his ability to fight
When you realize it takes about many hours just to watch a movie in 0.25x speed not to mention the voice overs and the editing. You sir, earned my respect for the work you put in...
You missed something. In the seen of Optimus rage right when Optimus showed up the desert version of Brawl was next to Shockwave. Then Is couple of second later Brawl was next to the firetruck.
another movie mistake is that when lenix goes to jump out of the building and parachute down on shockwave the window has a black bar at hip height but when he jumps out the bar is gone
Jesus I hope the woman is doing alright, I thought MB was being lazy reusing the scene because of budget, but damn, It's just shocking that I and possibly other bayverse fans never knew this.
according to TfWiki, she suffered brain damage, the left side of her body was paralyzed, and her left eye had to be stitched shut. so although alive, I unfortunately doubt she’s doing alright
To clear up about the 4500X , It's not only Blackout's Registration. Bay used it for pretty much all of the important aircraft / helicopters in the movies. For example also in TLK , at Unicron's horn , there is this small white(I think) Helicopter taking off which also has the same 4500X. 8:48 It may have been a issue that happened when Redering this shot , or simply they chose to remove some textures and parts of BB model so the shot isn't so laggy when animating...people forget how much detail goes into these 3d models and how long it takes to texture them , for example Megatron's TLK model almost took 2 years to texture alone ...that's so much but yet it's worth it since it looks fantastic! Other than that , amazing video Trans! Looking forward to more
I think the reused footage could've also been used as a reference to the other film like how other movies have references to other works by directors and/or production companies
I have a question when Ironhide tried to block the canon from Sentinal, did the shot affect his hands to destroy, or he hasn't blocked the gun so his hand at the time was fine?
I’m not gonna lie, I missed every single one of these. I would *never* have noticed any of these. That’s some nice attention to detail. But one thing I did notice, (not on my own) is in Age of Extinction, in that scene where (I forgot her name) uses a tow truck to pull Optimus’s sword from his chest, you can see the shadow of a Go-Pro when the angle switches to that one dramatic tire view.
My god. It’s already been almost 5 years since the transformers franchise ended, and I’d bet that if it weren’t for you, Bayformers would be dead by now. You literally kept a movie franchise alive…
Honestly the fact that you had to slow it down to catch some of these just solidifies my opinion that the camera was either positioned wrong or entirely too close during these movies. That why so many people have trouble telling what's going on imo.
During the highway scene Dino throws Hatchet at a car, which most likely killed the people inside that car. How was Dino able to get away with doing that?
2:23 Holy crap! That reminds of how in ROTF you can see a soldier get decapitated by Fallen in the scene of Optimus Prime revival. People say that Bayformers would be so much more violent if they replaced bots with humans, but it turns out the movies already had so many graphic details.
A huge one you missed was when Optimus was attacking Sentinel just before the bridge scene. Sentinel gets hit by a rocket and falls to the ground, when he’s getting back up and tranformering you see his shield laying on the ground. And yet… he has it again on the bridge. Also, Optimus’s arm and sentinel “magic teleportimg shield” disappearing off the bridge until after Megatron and Sentinel are dead.
Hi there, just wanna say I've been watching some of your theory videos and they're actually pretty interesting takes on what many fans (incl. Bayverse haters and, yes, defenders too) consider it to be a messy continuity. However, I was also wondering if you do requests? Like for example: how do the Hatchlings (baby Transformers, according to ROTF and DOTM) tie in with the AllSpark and Creator backstory? Regardless, cool video BTW.
Thx man, evry request comment I get I write down in a Google doc so I can get to it sometime in the future, I think you will enjoy my protoform misconceptions video since I go into detail on what the hatchlings are 👍
I feel like the sideswipe stealth force mistake was intentional because when he transforms back into his normal car mode, the roof opens and looks like it slides back into the car, I know I might be completely wrong but to me it makes sense why they would do that since if he has a roof, he would have more protection. 😁
Hey Trans! I loved this video and would like to see what else you could find in the other movies. Also, I have a tiny inquiry into a mystery of the Bayverse and would love to hear your thoughts on it. Doesn’t have to be a video, but I’m curious about what you think of this; In the Bayverse films, it’s said that they didn’t want any Autobots or Decepticons to talk while in vehicle mode, so assuming they can’t talk in vehicle modes, how do any of the Decepticons in the first movie manage to communicate a roll call to each other? (Also, Starscream communicates a lot while in vehicle mode in the second movie, saying to “spring the trap” and that he “found the boy”) This is under the assumption that they can’t actually talk while in vehicle mode, so if that’s incorrect, then disregard this haha. Love the vids! Looking forward to the Arcee one.
Fun fact: In Transformers 4 AoE, during the Lockdown meets Attinger scene. The helicopter that they used is an CH-53E Super Stallion which is Grindor. Fun fact: In Transformers 5 TLK, During the Bee VS Prime Fight, There are 4 CH-53Es again which is Grindor again. In fact you should add that detail in your Future Videos TransTheories
i really would like to see the other films being examined this way! Also another cool detail is when the crew is fighting Sentinel on Chicago, Bee turns back into the Camaro to dodge his strike, while Sideswipe jumps on Sentinel to attack him, but gets thrown away by Sentinel's shield
I noticed something too in the wing suit scene when they got attacked by the decepticon ships. It's the small fighters attacking them, but when you see the scene where the fighter shoots down one of the wingsuiters, it's one of the large fighters. You may think I'm incorrect, but you have to look closely.
during Optimus’s rampage, a Sideways lookalike is seen and is the second ‘con slain by Prime. but the funny thing is that it looks like Sideways was kind of just standing there until he reacted to getting stabbed
Wholesome fact: When Optimus meets the astronauts at the NEST base you can see him smiling while greeting them. You can also see a very subtle grin on his face when he sees Sam at the very end before nodding to him. Pretty minor stuff but I really like these :)
Really good video tbh gives me a lot of insight to the franchise that I didn't know however where you say that you can see Shockwave's head again when Optimus tosses him, I rewatched the scene like 10 times and couldn't see Shockwave's head at all
Theres also a part where one of the decepticons on the highway chase jumps over and knocks down those giant highway signs. They landed upright, but in the next scene, they were shown to land and look like a ramp.
The car being dented before the fight is because of the layering. They take 2 shots, one with the car without damage and the other with it destroyed. They edit the shots together and it looks like the robots are destroying the surrounding area.
There's actually another detail in the movie, where when one of the NEST soldier and the subsequent junk fell out and then shockwave sees them, you can catch a moment with his pupils shrink a bit as he realize there are humans in the building.
In tf2 ironhide lost his cannons from the rain fire scene, but when the fallen comes in to take the matrix, you could see ironhide holding his arms in the position as if he had his cannons and he actually does have them
Awesome vid I always find it fun to see these little details or Easter eggs One of the funny ones imo is when Optimus destroys all the decepticons before killing Shockwave, he uses the clock tower to redirect himself and that makes the clock move Another thing in that scene is that the Sideways model disappears for a single frame after Optimus slams it into the ground lol
That wasn't the only time a camera car got exposed. If you were to look closely in the 07 film when optimus arrives and you see him drifting round the corner you can clearly see the camera car in front of him. And in dark of the moon just as the start of the Mexican stand off scene when the camera points to Dino coming round the corner you can see road closure signs and in the same scene shortly after once sideswipe shot the dreads you can see a camera crane right when the dreads drive straight through the explosion. Also when Sam shouts Iron hide the Camaro is completely stationary (know just so you know I'm a car enthusiast I used to be a transformers fan but not any more because I grew out of it but I do still watch some stuff from time to time to remind myself of those days and what I'm missing)
Here goes another :3 In the confrontation against the Dreads when Sideswipe says "ironhide watch out" you can see that Ironhide still has his weapons on his back when he is supposed to have dropped them
You missed one detail which is when bumblebee is getting executed by soundwave, in the backround barricade looked away when bumblebee was about to die, this is because he doesn’t want to see bumblebee getting brutally killed because in the 2007 film we can see bumblebee spared his life
Anyone else notice during the highway chase scene, when the highway sign is knocked down, the signs are facing away from the Dreads. But in the next shot the entire thing is flipped and the signs are facing the ramps and are used as ramps for the Dreads.
I’m sure the Canadian lad (and others that do 0.25x speed vids) will appreciate that the idea of 0.25x videos is spreading more and more. I love these kinds of videos keep it up!
That first detail regarding the death of Ironhide makes me all the more p***ed off about him dying to begin with! R.I.P. Ironhide, and RUST IN HELL, SENTINEL!!!
Haven’t seen the movie in awhile but the car chase scene that had the accident is pretty insane, glad bay reused old footage instead of the original, feel bad for the girl
For the lips thing, transformers aka auto bots and decepticons, don’t actually use their mouths to talk, they have an audio box located in their heads which can be seen in a lot of the movies when closing up to the face, and also optimus was transforming out of his protective shield mask, so his lips couldn’t move with the sound.
I have actually found out something that I never noticed before, so in the forest fight scene in ROTF when Optimus is going god mode and chops off something of Grindor's, he actually chopped of his entire right arm you can tell because after that quick moment every short few frames Grindor has, he had no right arm, it is shown more clearly when he tried to grab his weapon on his right side you can see there is no right arm, and is why he begged optimus not to kill him because he knew that he would have no chance with only one arm left
During the skyscraper battle, after the decepticon protoform enters the building and gets distracted, you could see 2 soldiers facing the window after running towards the camera. The protoform would block the rear 2 soldiers, which were still facing the window. Then the next angle, they are in front of the protoform before jumping out the window.
I’ve got one more detail about the highway chase scene. When the dreads are tripping over the cars you can see all the car flipping and how the camera is right in front of a blue Toyota. After the reused scene from the island you can see the dreads flipping over more cars. If you look towards the left in that scene you can see the blue Toyota. This also means that the cars being flipped were the same cars that were being tripped over in the first part by the dreads. This means that not only were the island scenes reused, but that scene was used twice almost back to back.
One thing not mentioned is there are people shown in the red car coweringon the floor of it. They are never shown leaving the vehicle, then ironhide drops the con onto it, kicks it into the building where it then explodes, presumably killing the two humans.
There is one other mistake I noticed in the film my friend. It is the scene where Megatron shoots the statue of Abraham Lincoln and sits on the chair. And one of the wheels for Megatron's vehicle mode seems to be cropped out.
Wow, that arm card with 2007 Megatron is actually a really cool fact, I’m really impressed they acknowledged details from the first film..
Same man
@The Spider Gladiator I would wanna see that I like his personality
@@Theorymus what will be your next theory who is loader what if I survived wheeljack what if I survived sideways who is trench the hidden brawls like what’s next
As expected from such a good film
They always tried to put together everything, perhaps even too much XD
One of my favorite hidden details is when Optimus fights Megatron, Megatron actually fires his gun before having his spine ripped out. Not only is that cool but the funny part is that he misses...and if that wasn't enough his gun was a shotgun, the whole point of a shotgun is that you get close to something, you shoot and its dead. So this adds up to my Megatron having brain damage theory lol
I always thought that was funny how in a last ditch effort he tried to shoot optimus prime Classic Megatron
As far as I know .....Megs was loading his shotgun right when optimus charged at him wit his axe.(seriously how could he forget 2 load it... oh right ...Brain damage lol😂)bcoz optimus had to load that gun right before shooting sentinel
@@Ace-ey3nv That makes it even funnier and Amazing detail that micheal bay didn't forget about megatron having brain damage. still Classic Megatron
@@bluestreak7936 yeah...
All hail Megatron!
I always noticed him shooting Prime, but now you made it funnier with the "brain damage" thing.
I also noticed that when Sentinel cut off Optimus' arm, his severed sword gradually loses its orange glow.
That's because it's a heat sword, and it lost connection to it's power source (presumably Optimus) weird how inconsistently consistent these movies can be
@@thealbatrosstalks7234 also that Heat Sword’s main power source is Energon which doesn’t last too long
@@dilloon7626 energon fueling lasts a while, like how jazz survived several minutes while being split in half, evident by his arm cannon being retrarcted and ironhide's dialogue "we couldn't save him" implying that a transformer will only die instantly when hit in their spark, so the same could apply for the heat sword
@@Bomgo *survived being ripped in half until big ol Megs eats his Spark offscreen* poor Jazz
@@dilloon7626 oh shit thats why bee was still functioning while jazz stayed dead
Many of these film mistakes actually have legitimate excuses for happening. One example being the cleaners shop Sam was thrown into. The scene was filmed in two different areas. The second area was specifically made to be destroyed in a few seconds scene, so that's why the bricks are so visible and odd looking, as well as not being 1-1 with the original scene.
Steve really deserves an Oscar he did fantastic job on the soundtracks without him the movies wouldn't be so fun to watch he is a legend
I wholeheartedly agree man
@@Theorymus Yeah people always talk about cgi and voice actors and lines but not much people gives credits he deserves
@@she-venom9842 HE'S THE GOAT
I had dudes if steve jablonsky is going to back to score the movie like he did in the 5 first ones
If theres one composer that had very strong trumpets combining with digital sounds like steve jablonsky and dario marinelli
Holy crap! I never noticed ironhide tried to block the shot. But Dino was just plain brutal
Me neither
Please don’t say Gods name in vain
@@fortniteforce7926 my bad, sorry.
@@fortniteforce7926 shut up
@@marilugallegos4969 Don’t get bullied by the brainwashed people, use “gods” name however you want.
Here's one, in a focus shot where Megatron is sitting on the chair in the Lincoln memorial, you can see his legs clipping through the base of the chair. (Specifically his wheels.)
Glad not the only one
That's a misconception and not a mistake. Megatron's leg wheels weren't actually clipping through anything, they were simply behind the stairs leading up to the seat which made them _appear_ to be clipping.
@@MissMartianDCAU Perhaps on his right leg, but I can't see it be anything else on his left leg (left from Megs's perspective).
it's not clipping
It's not
I have studied the forest battle in Revenge of the Fallen in 0.25x as well. It begins in...
The Foundation Save:
As Sam(S) was about to be dissected by “ze doctor”, Optimus Prime(OP) crashes down from the ceiling, as does Bumblebee(BB), runs from the wall, grabbing his arm cannon to fire at SS, as SS tries to run and gun. S runs away to get out of the fight. OP jumps into the air dodging the gap, and grabbing his second ion cannon, as Megatron(M) jumps on wall and flips to where OP was, but firing and dodging each other’s shots. SS tries to jump OP from behind, but OP whacks SS with his right ion gun, and hits SS three times and a miss, with SS fleeing the scene from the window. OP soon turns around to fire a bullet at M, within that time, M jumps into the bullet’s way, falling back, crashes outside of the foundation, and hits the ground. BB drives away with the Megan and Theory boy, as M gets up, then transforms into his cybertronion tank, and drives off to another pathway. “Sam!” OP shouts as he gets off. S gets into OP, driving into a forest, BB escorts the other two to a safer location. Which leads to…
The Forest Battle:
As S and OP drive into a forest, M soon catches up to them, misfiring a pulse bullet, then both OP and M transform, with OP holding S while M jumps on OP, having OP drop S into a small patch with trees. “Hide Sam!” OP shouted as he fends off M, punching on his left side of his M’s head, with M charging at OP, crashing into the dirt ground. S tries to catch up, while trying to hide. “Weak!” As OP grabs a tree, and hits him from above. “Puny!” OP shouts as he punches M from the back, the M swings with his arm cannon, but OP dodges under it, and swings back with his right forearm, causing M to fall back. OP switches his right arm into the energon sword, and pierces M in his top left shoulder. “Junkyard coward!” OP yells out as he grabs M by his back, lifting him and smashing him down. “Decepticons!” M called out. Two decepticons were summoned, one being Grindor(G) transforming and crashing into the forest, catching his balance, and grabbing his rotor saw. The other, with being Starscream(SS), flies into the scene, shooting a tree down, transforms, smashes a tree, grabs another tree, breaks it, and pulls it out. “Come here, boy…” SS said, while grabbing his right minigun, and charges at S. As S runs away from SS, in the background, M gets slashed by OP, then M turns around, assisting SS to get S. OP charges from the trees, tackling M down. OP grabs M’s leg, hitting it with his arm, then kicks him with his knee into the trees. SS hovers and fires, attempting to tackle OP, but OP gets the upper hand, grabbing SS by the shoulders, lifting him up, SS tries to shoot him and fight back, but as M gets back up to attack, OP performs a left back-kick, making M to fall back, and lifts SS up, and kicking him on the head, with SS flipping over, and crashes into the ground. Scene flips into BB and Sideswipe driving towards their location(I think). “There’s another source of energon hidden on this planet, the boy can lead us to it.” M said. S hides behind a log, then comes out to run towards the fight. M runs at OP with a hug, and gets slashed by OP. SS flies in, punching OP on the head, G grabs OP’s head, trying to cut him, OP attempts an elbow hit at G’s head, but resisted and cuts his thorax with his rotor saw. G passes OP to SS, grabbing his left arm, and cuts OP with his saw, OP tries to hit SS, but SS swings his saw again back at OP. M swings his arm cannon at his back and grabs OP, and slams him into a group of dead trees. As OP gets up, M turns around to do a right side kick, weakening OP and loses his mouth guard. “Optimus!!” S shouted. OP backs up, getting shot by SS’s minigun and missile launcher, M slams OP, and fires point blank range at OP’s chest, being pushed back very far, rushing and flipping on the dirt, and spits out a piece of debris. “Is the future of our race not worth a single human life?” M questioning OP, “G-get up!” S shouts to OP. “you’ll never stop at one,” OP said, grabbing both of his energon swords, “I’ll take you all on!” OP charges at the three decepticons. S takes cover in the roots of a log, OP stabs SS in the top right shoulder, G attempts to cut OP with his rotor saw, but OP ducked and swings SS, causing SS to slip and misfire and crashes at M, making them both fall, then OP cuts G’s main rotors, grabs and slices G’s right forearm, flying towards M, who’s taking the shot, misfired when G’s arm flew to him. SS stood back up to charge, but OP got the advantage, swung his energon sword to stun SS, then going on his back to turn around, with G firing at them, OP forced SS to fire a missile, flying to G’s main rotor, backing up from the explosion, and OP threw his right energon sword at G’s right leg, stunning him. OP gets a hold on SS’s arms, and headbutts him, falling back. OP runs and stabs M’s left leg, and pulls it, getting a small piece of armor off, stabs again, but on his left thorax, falling down, OP stabs M’s left shoulder, and gets punched then uppercutted by OP, falling all the way back. OP runs at SS, grabs his right arm, and cuts it with his energon sword, and swings and throws the arm at him, ending his scene. OP grabs his energon hooks, grabs G’s head, getting a grip on his eyes, “No prime please…” G begged, then Op tearing his head in half, “Noooooo!” G screamed as his head was ripped in half. OP grabs G’s back to get down, and throws the Decepticon's body down. “Piece of tin can.” Op muttered as he got down. “Sam, where are you?” Injured OP said. M gets behind, grabs his left shoulder, and stabs OP through his chest with his cannon blade. “You're so weak.” M said, as he fired through OP’s chest, causing OP to die, shot near his spark, falling down. “Sam, run, run…” OP advises S as he dies. As S runs away, autobot reinforcement comes, shooting and backing up S, BB picks up S, driving away. SS and M fire back and fly away. This ends the Forest battle.
@QwQ Starscream
Despite what people say about ROTF, I still maintain to this day the Forest Fight is the single greatest CGI fight piece ever done on screen.
.....bruh that's alot of stuff
@@UnhingedJessie Same
This was so pointless
Fun fact: in revenge of the fallen, during the scene where the fallen steals the matrix from prime he decapitates a soldier completely with his staff.
Fun fact: in dark of the moon, when one of the office workers tries to operate laser beam disguised as a printer, the worker “accidentally” plays the “robots in disguise” theme. Imdietly after, laserbeak transforms.
That office workers name was Donny
Okay those are straight up in our face obvious, but it's good you point that out years later
@@tasteewheat393 the first one definitely isn’t obvious
@@tasteewheat393 I mean I watched the movie forwards and backwards for years and I never noticed that
Time stamp?
All of these little details That were shown I didn’t even realized or seen! Props for pointing them out 👏
Anytime man
@@Theorymuswhat characters do you hate form transformers
5:06 This actually happened again during "The Last Knight"
When Optimus lands on cybertron to meet Quintessa when he gets up from impact he grouns but his mouth his shut, then they animate his lips when he says "my world what has happened to my world"
My Theory on Bumblebee's head being more siiver is something to deal with his transformation meaning is this could help aid him into transforming from robot mode to vehicle mode vice versa much more quicker in a dire situation (Autibots vs Sentenal Prime) also similar occurance in the 07 sector 7 scene.
Or its just an animation error ?
I'm surprised you didn't notice that during the highway scene the over head sign switches the way it's facing in the scene. When it first falls it's pointing straight up the when the other dread bots drive up it becomes a ramp all of sudden and it's facing the opposite direction.
Another cool fact, Megatron's foot is clipping through Abraham Lincoln's chair in the pillars scene in DC.
What if Starscream joined the Autobots instead of the Decepticons in the film series?
How would Revenge of the Fallen would’ve played out?
you got armada starscream for that
No allies get tortured
That’s not a bad idea.
Depends on whether starscream joins the autobots before are after the first film.
If he joins before the first film then there probably wouldn't have been any films as starscream was likely leading the decepticons in megatrons absence. Without starscream leading the effort to revive him, we would be waiting on soundwave to show in rotf to take charge and awaken boss man so rotf would just be the 07 film with a different lineup
If screamer joined after the first film, I'm not sure how much difference it would make because he got nerfed big time. Ironhide was scared of him in the first film and he did a lot of damage to the bots but in rotf he's a coward and the only time we see him fighting, he's losing in a 3 on 1 against prime. If starscream had defected, the fight would likely have been a 2 on 2. We know from the extended footage that all 3 cons were giving prime hell so change that to a 2 on 2 and starscream could've dealt with grindor while prime fights megatron. This likely would've resulted in a victory as megatron was losing to optimus before calling for reinforcements since his new form, including his heavy, hard to control lobster claw, severely hampers his ability to fight
I couldn't sure I found a good shot at 0.25x speed at any scene like this part, but that was good catch of scene if Ironhide's death
When you realize it takes about many hours just to watch a movie in 0.25x speed not to mention the voice overs and the editing.
You sir, earned my respect for the work you put in...
Thx man I appreciate it
You missed something. In the seen of Optimus rage right when Optimus showed up the desert version of Brawl was next to Shockwave. Then Is couple of second later Brawl was next to the firetruck.
another movie mistake is that when lenix goes to jump out of the building and parachute down on shockwave the window has a black bar at hip height but when he jumps out the bar is gone
Now this is what I call dedication to the franchise
Jesus I hope the woman is doing alright, I thought MB was being lazy reusing the scene because of budget, but damn, It's just shocking that I and possibly other bayverse fans never knew this.
according to TfWiki, she suffered brain damage, the left side of her body was paralyzed, and her left eye had to be stitched shut. so although alive, I unfortunately doubt she’s doing alright
To clear up about the 4500X , It's not only Blackout's Registration. Bay used it for pretty much all of the important aircraft / helicopters in the movies. For example also in TLK , at Unicron's horn , there is this small white(I think) Helicopter taking off which also has the same 4500X.
8:48 It may have been a issue that happened when Redering this shot , or simply they chose to remove some textures and parts of BB model so the shot isn't so laggy when animating...people forget how much detail goes into these 3d models and how long it takes to texture them , for example Megatron's TLK model almost took 2 years to texture alone ...that's so much but yet it's worth it since it looks fantastic! Other than that , amazing video Trans! Looking forward to more
DOTM is the best transformers movie, hands down.
Agreed
I think it’s all
Agree
maybe bayformers but not even close to the best transformers movie in general
@@username-yc3bd yes it is close. It’s between bb and DOTM
I think the reused footage could've also been used as a reference to the other film like how other movies have references to other works by directors and/or production companies
A reference isn't just using the same footage
I have a question when Ironhide tried to block the canon from Sentinal, did the shot affect his hands to destroy, or he hasn't blocked the gun so his hand at the time was fine?
He was pushing form on top of the barrel. He wasn't blocking it with his hand, but trying to redirect the shot.
One thing you missed that lorder was next to the boys of hatchet and also another scene was when shockwave came he didn’t have his cannon out
Bro yes I’ve needed this I love that there is details in this and it makes me appreciate it even more great job
Wait Ironhide tried to move Sentinel's gun and Bumblebee shot at Sentinel without a gun? I need to write down the Bumblebee part.
I’m not gonna lie, I missed every single one of these. I would *never* have noticed any of these. That’s some nice attention to detail. But one thing I did notice, (not on my own) is in Age of Extinction, in that scene where (I forgot her name) uses a tow truck to pull Optimus’s sword from his chest, you can see the shadow of a Go-Pro when the angle switches to that one dramatic tire view.
My god. It’s already been almost 5 years since the transformers franchise ended, and I’d bet that if it weren’t for you, Bayformers would be dead by now. You literally kept a movie franchise alive…
Thx man
Wtf no he didn’t
@@Stepup7 way to ruin the fun
@@thechunky1ne glad that fun was ruined
Do you guys agree that wreckers are so cool and maybe could’ve had more appearances in other movies ?
Didn't realize there were that many little mistakes in this movie the Dino prop makes me laugh
R.I.P Ironhide. He tried to block the shot 😖
Honestly the fact that you had to slow it down to catch some of these just solidifies my opinion that the camera was either positioned wrong or entirely too close during these movies. That why so many people have trouble telling what's going on imo.
During the highway scene Dino throws Hatchet at a car, which most likely killed the people inside that car. How was Dino able to get away with doing that?
2:23 Holy crap! That reminds of how in ROTF you can see a soldier get decapitated by Fallen in the scene of Optimus Prime revival. People say that Bayformers would be so much more violent if they replaced bots with humans, but it turns out the movies already had so many graphic details.
Hey guys its the Canadian Lad here
A huge one you missed was when Optimus was attacking Sentinel just before the bridge scene. Sentinel gets hit by a rocket and falls to the ground, when he’s getting back up and tranformering you see his shield laying on the ground. And yet… he has it again on the bridge.
Also, Optimus’s arm and sentinel “magic teleportimg shield” disappearing off the bridge until after Megatron and Sentinel are dead.
Sentinel picks up his shield while he's running away, u can see his hand reach for it just before he transforms:)
Wow...just wow. Every time delivers a fantastic video. great job man!
Also I'd like to believe that stone used the desk as a way to smash into a window and survived the fall
I really did enjoy that one, I love tiny inconsistencies in movies. Great work.
Wow. I never knew about any of these details. Thanks for informing me of them. As always, great video, Trans Theories.
Anytime
Hi there, just wanna say I've been watching some of your theory videos and they're actually pretty interesting takes on what many fans (incl. Bayverse haters and, yes, defenders too) consider it to be a messy continuity. However, I was also wondering if you do requests? Like for example: how do the Hatchlings (baby Transformers, according to ROTF and DOTM) tie in with the AllSpark and Creator backstory? Regardless, cool video BTW.
Thx man, evry request comment I get I write down in a Google doc so I can get to it sometime in the future, I think you will enjoy my protoform misconceptions video since I go into detail on what the hatchlings are 👍
Wow I never expected this, this was a great video as always
The Canadian Lad is proud of you! I'm watching right now, and this is amazing!
Thx man
@@Theorymus no problem
I feel like the sideswipe stealth force mistake was intentional because when he transforms back into his normal car mode, the roof opens and looks like it slides back into the car, I know I might be completely wrong but to me it makes sense why they would do that since if he has a roof, he would have more protection. 😁
Hey Trans! I loved this video and would like to see what else you could find in the other movies.
Also, I have a tiny inquiry into a mystery of the Bayverse and would love to hear your thoughts on it. Doesn’t have to be a video, but I’m curious about what you think of this;
In the Bayverse films, it’s said that they didn’t want any Autobots or Decepticons to talk while in vehicle mode, so assuming they can’t talk in vehicle modes, how do any of the Decepticons in the first movie manage to communicate a roll call to each other? (Also, Starscream communicates a lot while in vehicle mode in the second movie, saying to “spring the trap” and that he “found the boy”)
This is under the assumption that they can’t actually talk while in vehicle mode, so if that’s incorrect, then disregard this haha. Love the vids! Looking forward to the Arcee one.
i think 'talk' in this case meant use mouths to vocalize cybertronian 'speech' seems more like a modem noise and is likely uneffected
I was acutally thinking of making a 0.25x speed on the 2007 movie, but if you plan on doing it next i would be excited to see it
Fun fact: In Transformers 4 AoE, during the Lockdown meets Attinger scene. The helicopter that they used is an CH-53E Super Stallion which is Grindor.
Fun fact: In Transformers 5 TLK, During the Bee VS Prime Fight, There are 4 CH-53Es again which is Grindor again.
In fact you should add that detail in your Future Videos TransTheories
i really would like to see the other films being examined this way!
Also another cool detail is when the crew is fighting Sentinel on Chicago, Bee turns back into the Camaro to dodge his strike, while Sideswipe jumps on Sentinel to attack him, but gets thrown away by Sentinel's shield
this is very easy to notice in normal speed
@@OptimusPrime-vx5dg yea
I noticed something too in the wing suit scene when they got attacked by the decepticon ships. It's the small fighters attacking them, but when you see the scene where the fighter shoots down one of the wingsuiters, it's one of the large fighters. You may think I'm incorrect, but you have to look closely.
“That… Is Shockwave… IS SHOCKWAVE… *IS SHOCKWAVE”* 5:08
lmfao
Cool video but the monotone voice is killing it for me a bit. Good eye tho I never spotted these
Just rewatched this one last night and it's still my favorite Transformers movie and this video makes me want to watch it again, great video btw.
If you see closely before ironhide kicks the car the car was moving backwords and then ironhide kicks
during Optimus’s rampage, a Sideways lookalike is seen and is the second ‘con slain by Prime. but the funny thing is that it looks like Sideways was kind of just standing there until he reacted to getting stabbed
I would like to see more especially the fight scenes
Wholesome fact: When Optimus meets the astronauts at the NEST base you can see him smiling while greeting them. You can also see a very subtle grin on his face when he sees Sam at the very end before nodding to him.
Pretty minor stuff but I really like these :)
This is the most robotic voice I’ve ever heard
Man, watching this movie for 11 hours. What a madlad
WOW 😯! I never noticed that at first 👀👀👀🌟🌟⭐️⭐️. Good eye Trans Theories 👍🏽.
Thx man
Really good video tbh gives me a lot of insight to the franchise that I didn't know however where you say that you can see Shockwave's head again when Optimus tosses him, I rewatched the scene like 10 times and couldn't see Shockwave's head at all
When he posted this I thought it was the Canadian lad
When I saw that scene where the desk fell near Shockwave, I could hear him say "driller bot is thirsty."
In case you missed it, when Ironhide killed Crankcase, the red car used has a dented boot, whereas in earlier scenes the boot was in perfect condition
How is someone capable of making so much content out of a simple franchise
jesus its amazing
YES Trans you named it just like the canadian lad and bro this video is awesome thank you
Thx
I actually like this format, hope you can make part 2 or episode 2 soon!
Will you do more of watching transformers in 0.25x because I'm liking it already.
Depending on how well it does, I would love to do more
Theres also a part where one of the decepticons on the highway chase jumps over and knocks down those giant highway signs. They landed upright, but in the next scene, they were shown to land and look like a ramp.
Omg what I never noticed those! 😯
3:09 There's some Humans in the Alley on the left of Roadbuster
I like the Easter eggs, but I can’t believe they were that much mistakes in DOTM.
The car being dented before the fight is because of the layering. They take 2 shots, one with the car without damage and the other with it destroyed. They edit the shots together and it looks like the robots are destroying the surrounding area.
There's actually another detail in the movie, where when one of the NEST soldier and the subsequent junk fell out and then shockwave sees them, you can catch a moment with his pupils shrink a bit as he realize there are humans in the building.
In tf2 ironhide lost his cannons from the rain fire scene, but when the fallen comes in to take the matrix, you could see ironhide holding his arms in the position as if he had his cannons and he actually does have them
Doing Canadian Lad with Transformers, Yesss!!!
Yeah
Awesome vid
I always find it fun to see these little details or Easter eggs
One of the funny ones imo is when Optimus destroys all the decepticons before killing Shockwave, he uses the clock tower to redirect himself and that makes the clock move
Another thing in that scene is that the Sideways model disappears for a single frame after Optimus slams it into the ground lol
So your copiying the canadian lad
That wasn't the only time a camera car got exposed. If you were to look closely in the 07 film when optimus arrives and you see him drifting round the corner you can clearly see the camera car in front of him. And in dark of the moon just as the start of the Mexican stand off scene when the camera points to Dino coming round the corner you can see road closure signs and in the same scene shortly after once sideswipe shot the dreads you can see a camera crane right when the dreads drive straight through the explosion. Also when Sam shouts Iron hide the Camaro is completely stationary (know just so you know I'm a car enthusiast I used to be a transformers fan but not any more because I grew out of it but I do still watch some stuff from time to time to remind myself of those days and what I'm missing)
Ur vocal inflection is incredibly annoying
Here goes another :3
In the confrontation against the Dreads when Sideswipe says "ironhide watch out" you can see that Ironhide still has his weapons on his back when he is supposed to have dropped them
You missed one detail which is when bumblebee is getting executed by soundwave, in the backround barricade looked away when bumblebee was about to die, this is because he doesn’t want to see bumblebee getting brutally killed because in the 2007 film we can see bumblebee spared his life
2:16 Amazon? Pay? Sorry, I will use my brain and screenshot this
3:16 Not a single person was looking at her hat.
Anyone else notice during the highway chase scene, when the highway sign is knocked down, the signs are facing away from the Dreads. But in the next shot the entire thing is flipped and the signs are facing the ramps and are used as ramps for the Dreads.
I’m sure the Canadian lad (and others that do 0.25x speed vids) will appreciate that the idea of 0.25x videos is spreading more and more. I love these kinds of videos keep it up!
I usually watch Canadian lad do the o.25x speed videos for marvel so kinda glad someone is doing it for transformers
Thx man
That first detail regarding the death of Ironhide makes me all the more p***ed off about him dying to begin with! R.I.P. Ironhide, and RUST IN HELL, SENTINEL!!!
Haven’t seen the movie in awhile but the car chase scene that had the accident is pretty insane, glad bay reused old footage instead of the original, feel bad for the girl
That’s a sad incident that happened to that girl. You mentioning the Megatron card makes me want to buy it.
I've never actually watched any of the 'watched in 0.25x' videos but this was actually a really good video
Trans theories and Canadian lad collaboration comfirmed
For the lips thing, transformers aka auto bots and decepticons, don’t actually use their mouths to talk, they have an audio box located in their heads which can be seen in a lot of the movies when closing up to the face, and also optimus was transforming out of his protective shield mask, so his lips couldn’t move with the sound.
I have actually found out something that I never noticed before, so in the forest fight scene in ROTF when Optimus is going god mode and chops off something of Grindor's, he actually chopped of his entire right arm you can tell because after that quick moment every short few frames Grindor has, he had no right arm, it is shown more clearly when he tried to grab his weapon on his right side you can see there is no right arm, and is why he begged optimus not to kill him because he knew that he would have no chance with only one arm left
Yo I remember u showed a picture of the thumbnail on a post a long time ago. It’s a good thing you’re actually doing it now
During the skyscraper battle, after the decepticon protoform enters the building and gets distracted, you could see 2 soldiers facing the window after running towards the camera. The protoform would block the rear 2 soldiers, which were still facing the window. Then the next angle, they are in front of the protoform before jumping out the window.
I’ve got one more detail about the highway chase scene. When the dreads are tripping over the cars you can see all the car flipping and how the camera is right in front of a blue Toyota. After the reused scene from the island you can see the dreads flipping over more cars. If you look towards the left in that scene you can see the blue Toyota. This also means that the cars being flipped were the same cars that were being tripped over in the first part by the dreads. This means that not only were the island scenes reused, but that scene was used twice almost back to back.
One thing not mentioned is there are people shown in the red car coweringon the floor of it. They are never shown leaving the vehicle, then ironhide drops the con onto it, kicks it into the building where it then explodes, presumably killing the two humans.
Man, you are one of my favourite content creators.
There is one other mistake I noticed in the film my friend. It is the scene where Megatron shoots the statue of Abraham Lincoln and sits on the chair. And one of the wheels for Megatron's vehicle mode seems to be cropped out.