You lost me at 4060ti, the FP32 performance of a 4060ti is 114% greater than the PS5's GPU. The 5700xt on the other hand only has a 5% difference in comparison to the PS5 and would be a better match since the 4060ti way outperforms the PS5 GPU.
Raw performance wise I completely agree. The thing about PC vs console configurations is the optimization. Devs. only have to optimize for one set of hardware with console, but on PC there are so many different configurations. Higher performance hardware can be seen as an offset to the difference in optimization.
@@630majic I completely agree with you, but that raw power being far more than that of a console, it allows for higher settings, fps, and resolutions. It's just a poor comparison in my opinion. The optimization across the board has been lacking too, regardless of it being on PC or console
@@FrankTheTank184 Yeah, no kidding. It seems to be prevalent with AAA titles lately. Holding hope that future releases are brought to the table with good day one optimization.
Plus, keep in mind that these are US component prices. The US market is significantly cheaper when it comes to electronics to almost everywhere else in the world.
Not as cheap as where I live, Guernsey, we get European prices, minus VAT, I got a brand new 4090 for £1400 while the rest of Britain paid £2000. That's why we are classed as a tax haven. anything on Amazon removes 25% of the price if shipped to Guernsey.
One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of games aren't optimized for PC, so you'll need better specs to get the same performance. Hopefully with Steam pushing the Steamdeck game companies will start investing in PC optimization.
@@koenuffing4416 Most games are designed with DLSS enabled. So when Steam tells you that the recommended hardware is a 3060 they're assuming you're using DLSS
@@Ky-iz8pyWhat he said regardless of how he said it is still facts though. You bought a GPU with 8GB of vram at the start of a new console generation and now you're complaining that games run trash but you're the one who put yourself in that situation. You build for the future when you buy/build a pc, you bought for the here and now and now you're paying for that mistake physical, mentally, and financially. Take accountability for your own ignorant decisions, its what men do.
Typical pc gamer. Not only living in denial but insanely prideful about it. Too bad all that gaming power is not making you happy in life, nor making games any more optimized for your overpriced Fap station. @@saltmaker5353
I think you guys don't know what optimization means. There is no "PC specific" optimization that needs to be done. PCs have a bigger footprint running in the background. It's called your operating system. There's also things like the hard drive. If your HDD is causing a bottle neck, upgrading to an NVMe drive will fix that. No amount of optimizations will fix that. I just got a 2TB NVMe for $150. A 500GB was $500, just 5 years ago. You have to understand that PCs primary focus isn't gaming, so you have to consider the overhead, (or disregard it, depending on how you look at it.)... Ultimately, you could just Optimize your spending budget. Built my PC in 2017 and it still outperforms PS5.
I don't come to these videos for the content. I come for the comments, because those are real people that ACTUALLY know what they're talking about lol. Two of my best gaming PCs were built off of commenters over the years.
Yeah because comments also usually correct anything wrong in the video or give better recommendations that have higher value, and overall just help you with stuff
Building a pc w/ the help of forums, qoura, Reddit, and recently added Chatgpt made me to considers opinions and base a general estimate. A collective thought.
Agreed … love the idea of this video, but I think mistakes may have been made w some decisions… but hey I still enjoyed the content so I will shut My mouth now lol
@@MrPruske The 4060 is an 8 lane PCI-E 4.0 gpu (vs the standard 16 lanes), meaning 8 lanes on a 3.0 motherboard is limiting half of the bandwidth that goes to the GPU. This will 100% affect FPS. It has already been proven, multiple times over.
I used to be a PC gamer exclusively way back when, but somewhere along the way, I started using consoles more and now use them exclusively. Will they ever match a custom-built PC in performance and power? No, but I'm ok with that. As mentioned in this comment section several times, the primary reason I like consoles is that the games I play are designed to play on them. When I was building gaming PCs, I was always concerned with my hardware being good enough to play games. That and upgrading became really expensive.
@@gomperhooblet ridiculous thing to say so u need to have a pc to like games? laughs in GoW and Uncharted and Spider-Man 2 keep in mind I have both but tbh playing in a relaxed way knowing my console will do 4k and play any game with ease without the need to upgrade with an extra 500$ on a gpu or cpu is a great feeling
@@bercal6180Wow you have 3 exclusive games with 5 hours of game play each 🎉. Pc has wayyy more options, games, emulators etc. You can get the performance of ps5 with used parts easily with the used market. You dont have to pay every year a fee to play online (now each even more 😂😂). You have cheaper prices and better sales. And you have something called TRUE 4K and not upscaled which is not smt to flex about on ps5, you can just do it on pc too ... And you can upgrade your pc when the next console comes back or even later since you always have settings and mods to help you play almost everything with a potato (i have a steamdeck and although it doesnt have good specs it can still run anything you throw at it 30fps min) people complaining for not playing a game because they are spoiled from other games eith better performance, you can always turn down settings to play it. The only good thing about consoles is if you simple dont want to do even 1s of search and just plug and play (but that leaves you with trash default apps, 0% customizability and trash operating system only for games)
started with PC when I was a teen, and I was a meticulous one. As an adult with responsibilities, I prefer consoles now for optimization, price, early releases, exclusives, and time. I remember going home from work and I would troubleshoot things like RDR2 because it kept crashing every 10 minutes or Death Stranding and its anti-aliasing issues, which I fixed, but with trial and error, searching for solutions, fiddling both in game and NVIDIA settings, searching solutions on Reddit or UA-cam. I'm through all that stress, and I'm enjoying my time with the PS5. Also allotting some money to different hobbies and time with the family. best decision I ever made.
That's the thing that keept me in console gaming for over 10 years now 👍. It just works. This year in January I bought my first gaming pc for farming simulator 22 because the mods on PC are just on a different level. Well .... Within the past few months I had way more problems than with consoles in the past 10 years
Couple noobs here or what. Update your PC and it works as normal. The titles available on PC are unrivalled, a lot being unavailable in either Playstation or Xbox. Have fun playing at 30fps
@@nico3064 With greater power comes greater responsibility. I had all the same issues coming into PC gaming as well. I powered through and learned a shit ton, and now I rarely have issues. I can't imagine gaming on consoles anymore. So very limited.
For those who actually want a pc on part with a ps5 . It costs 600 usd . R5 5600 with rx 7600 If you can get a good deal on a 6700xt your getting way more performance . Btw Amd makes the pc 5 chipz, the 6700(non xt) is basically a pc version of the pc gpu , but it can boost 10% faster . If your willing to buy a used gpu , you can get a 6700xt /6750xt you can get them for 190-220 usd in the Us .
I will be honest with you. i lost you on the gpu . The cheapest 4060 on the market 399usd is almost as expensive as the ps5. You can get a new ps5 for 408usd .
You think Sony pay store prices for their components? They buy millions of these components, so they make deals with the providers (like AMD).. Not only that, but lifetime deals of say 8 years and tens of millions of components. Perhaps AMD lose money of the first 10 million, and only make a little on the next 10 million, but then they profit huge on the last tens of millions. PC people simply don't understand the console market.. They think of it as a "different PC market", but it's not, everything is quite different. From the OS, to the machine purpose, to suppliers, to game development etc etc etc..
@@johnwayne-kd1pn while they do get them cheaper, they still don't get top of the line. 4K on a PS5 is not true 4K resolution. It is upscaled. Which means even if they were to get a discount from AMD, it would still be expensive as hell to get a true 4k60 machine.
@@Xanatos0504 Sure. What I mean to say was only that most likely Sony pays a "lifetime" price for components, tens of millions of them. Not even regular production cost. At least that's how it seems to me, and I'm guessing Xbox does the same, seeing how it is also priced below market. Besides that, both initially, despite even that, sell their consoles at a loss. Yeah, I don't think we get 4K and 60fps until next generation, also on PC, around that time. Anyways, by that time, Raytracing will have progressed ALOT too and become a viable technology.. Today it is just in its infancy, or just past it, somewhere. Seeing how expensive it is (GPU/resource wise), perhaps even the next generation will be a compromise and a choice somehow. No doubt some will use it as an excuse to continue using the awful 30fps. But well, perhaps I'm wrong.. But global raytracing should be possible by then, and so should say 120fps 4k.. I really hope 30fps will just die then, but I'm not too hopeful.
remember, it might be a little bit more expensive to build a gaming pc, but you are building a pc, so it's a multipurpose device, plus you get access to steam, epic store and gog which means, there is a huge library of games you could play and a lot of them are dirt cheap if you buy it with the right time... you also get access to xbox games if you wanted too and you can also emulate any game you want... you cant play pokemon games on PS5, but you can on PC.
I don't think average people need a gaming pc as a multipurpose device. You don't need a powerful pc if you're not a content creator or streamer. My choice was PS5 plus a cheap laptop, which was overall still cheaper than a gaming pc. Having huge library and emulator is a fair point though.
@createLazyWorkerJack you children have an excuse for everything, huh? Do you think normal programs just don't run on desktops? And I can already read your next excuse: "oh, I need to bring my laptop in to work."
This video reminds me on the The Verge how to build a gaming pc video, in terms of the choices that they made for the components. Crazy enough that the comparision to the ps5 is lame for the fact that it comes ready to go out of the box with a controller and a BD drive and they were no where near the price point of a ps5.
You need to take into account the fact that you need to pay for PS Plus for basically anything online. PC has no mandatory subscriptions really. Over 4 or 5 years PS plus comes out to a few hundred bucks.
By choosing parts that are way more powerful than what the ps5 has, of course it'll be much more expensive. If they actually picked parts that are inline with the spec of the ps5 like a ryzen 3600 and a 2080 then the price would be close.
one thing is 4060 is way more powerful and has frame generation which make it overkill and to forget the fact that you can have gamepass or buy games at lower price in a steam sale rather paying more to sony in a locked environment. extra 250$ is manageable because you dont need to pay sony to play online multiplayer and hence it covers the cost over there
@@xpodx tbh ps5 is really worth it unless you are not playing multiplayer game and not buying their shit subscription. Haptics are really good and optimisation will be great too. My only complain is its almost 3 years and slim is about arrive but they have not reduced the price
The comments are hilarious. PC gamers acting like snobs and forgetting why we play games in the first place. Fighting over which cards to use, who is superior, how consoles have no value and at the same time complain about bad ports, graphic cards and parts issues, my card is better, my case is better, my power supply is better 😂😂 its like watching children fight over a toy at walmart.
@@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE why do you care? If you want to be that petty, I can be that petty, too. It would be "fanboy", not "fanboys", because you are replying to one person, that I assume you think are a console gamer, correct? It's fucking stupid, isn't it, when someone judges someone for something that really doesn't even fucking matter... "fanboy", not fanboys"... Sit with that, and take it onboard. Realise how fucking stupid, and meaningless all of this is.
1800 bucks can get you a nice pc these days. but you dont have to be a snob about it. just a suggestion, but step off that pedestal u put yourself on and come back down to reality with the rest of us. @@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE
Yes. There are plenty of current games including those Sony early exclusives out on both platforms. It would be interesting to show the comparison between the suggested spec in the video, as well as a few in the comments.
Is that motherboard going to fit into the mATX case? Let's see you build this rig an benchmark it. You could have saved some money by going with a PCIe 3 SSD.
@@mikesheber2205 a pc could do other stuff besides gaming that consoles couldn't, and if you build a more powerful pc now, when PS6 comes out, you'll only need to swap up some parts to match the newer consoles, or who knows, it might even still be a match.. and i think even the specs in this video is already above the performance of a PS5
Because of the mass market adaptation of consoles and franchises that are exclusive to a given console (at least initially), many games are optimized to extract maximum performance from the respective console. This is similar in concept to an Apple computer having inferior components to a PC on paper but yet out-performing that PC in reality : there is a very tight coupling between software and hardware that much like Apple, consoles also enjoy. This basically means it is very hard to compare "apples to apples" between PC and a given console just like it is hard to compare an Apple computer with a PC if you only look at the specs. Best way to compare I'd argue is to look at performance comparisons : analyze the resolution, frame rates, and approximate the graphical settings of games available on both PC and a given console and then figure out what it takes in terms of a PC that can achieve similar performance to the console with that given game.
The GPU is overkill also, it has been said that the PS5 is around the 2060 super to may be 2070, so is the Xseries. Then he made his GPU choice by matching Tflops 😂, no one buys a GPU based on Tflops.
@ADRzone Going overkill on GPU can be somewhat justified due to how awful the optimization has been lately for pc ports (hell AAA has been real awful there lately).
@@theepicduck6922 I know... But the thing is that the 2070 is already an overkill GPU, when compared to the PS5 and Series X. Because these GPUs are the ones capable to match the performance and visuals, sometimes over taking the consoles, sometimes falling slightly short, but most times being better. This is why the 2060super and 2070 are considered the best match. If these GPUs will get the same love and optimization that consoles get, they'll actually be way overkill.
You could just use a Ryzen 7 3700X for the CPU. Honestly, even a 10th gen from intel would be comparable to the PS5 like the 10600K. Honestly, PC gaming is fun and all but it's costly.
Personally I think he should have went with an actual RDNA series gpu because most ps5 games don't use ray tracing or take such a hit in performance that it'd be a comparable card possibly shave off that extra $70 and have longevity (like an actual game console) due to the higher RAM in AMD cards. But this is just being nitpicky because bro took the time to make a whole video.
Probably an rx 6600 or rx 6650xt would be a better comparison and are a fair bit cheaper than a 4060. Rx 6600 is probably slightly below ps5 performance, but you can find a new one on sale for under $200 now.
The specs are way too off.. the closest match is as under Zen 2 - R7 3700X (8C, 16T) RDNA 2 - RX 6750 XT (overclocked) Memory - 2 x 8GB DDR4 , 3200Mhz Storage - 980 Pro 1TB Mobo - X570 based entry level mbo (for PCI 4.0 storage) These specs will be best suited for native 1440p 60fps gaming.
That 7000mbs speed of the ssd is irrelevant to your build. Your motherboard only allows up to 3500mbs speed I think. If you want to maximize 7kmbs, you should have gone with an x570 motherboard.
Seems like most people who would be interested in doing this are probably pc owners already and would simply need to upgrade a few components. I've been using the same pc case for years and have upgraded it several times and usually my psu lasts through several upgrades. I think you also have to consider value of a PC vs a PS5 too, I can do a lot more with my PC than I can with my PS5 and I have all kinds of electronic devices that require a PC.
This is a two edged sword. PS5 is a pure "gaming PC" so to say, so it's fully optimized for playing games, not doing other things. But sure, most people have a PC or something to do other things than just play games. Usually a laptop or something like that, but desktop works just as well, and like you say is then 2 in 1, so you don't need a 2nd PC besides your gaming PC (PS5)..
Worst thing for me about pc gaming has been the updates and the having trouble shoot all the time with random issues for someone like me that gets out of work and just want to play a few games I ended up on my ps5 of Xbox series x and barely use my gaming pc. I have also found in fps games you run into so many cheaters.
Warranty is also much easier to obtain on a PS5. In Australia, you can get an in-store replacement. So no need to wait for a technician or yourself to check which component is at fault, you just have the whole unit replaced. Thankfully though, I've been lucky and have never once got a faulty PC component despite the fact I not only build multiple PCs for myself, but also for others as well. But that could be due to Australia's strict consumer standards. Only problem I find with consoles, especially Sony is when they try launching them at $800+ AUD. Not only that, but they have a really bad launch lineup of games. It definitely makes it hard for consoles to be a year 1 or year 2 buy. $600 AUD is more reasonable as a consumer-friendly, high end console but even that will still limit buyers greatly unless you have a strong game lineup. Xbox and Switch have much more convincing pricing model.
@@LudusAurea What you may not be considering are the steps you've taken to avoid the need of fixing or troubleshooting. I have computers that outside of regular updates (which even that can be hard for people) I've never had to touch in 6 years as well. Although I probably should. A lot of issues people have with computers is due to Windows updates. Half of my business is driving out to people's houses and clicking windows update for $50 per job. Some I can get them to do it over the phone, but a lot of my clients just prefer me to come out and do it.
what issue with updates? and troubleshooting issues all the time? both sounds like a YOUR system issue cuz my pc is on 24/7 and not a single issue. Anytime im ready to game i jus go. You overexaggerate and what you said sound like your system is just trash
Gpu inside the ps5 is more inline with rx 5700xt/rx 6700. And the cpu with its 1/4 memory chache vs desktop variant means it performs more like a ryzen 7 1700.
@@JeffCollins05 No, a 3700 is sustantially faster than whats in a ps5. You dont just look at the number of cores, there are more things involved. Severely cutdown cache, frequency and power. The ps5 cpu is a 4800S, sold in China. DF already got one and did videos about it. There are games like Cyberpunk or Metro where a vanilla 3600 is 40-50% faster than the ps5 cpu
Well, building your own PC is the best thing you can do. If you pay for a pre built, you are paying a 15-20% markup to whoever actually built it Also, games that are made for PS5 are made exactly for PS5 and you dont have adjust many settings to make it run optimally Also, while your more expensive computer parts become outdated over time, new consoles will always relatively cheap Also many games are made for consoles anyway and end up not running well on PC ie Elden Ring, Jedi Survivor, The Last of Us
Computer parts have longer lifespans than entire consoles. You also don't have to completely rebuild your PC to stay up to date, just a part here and there. The initial cost may be a little bit above consoles, but you save in the long run. After a few years you're replacing your entire console while a pc only needs to replace 1 or 2 parts, making it way cheaper to move to "next gen". Not to mention that people often forget about CONTROLLERS when it comes to console when you're considering the price. Controllers are about $80 a pop now and most people want at least 2 of them. So your $500 Ps5 is actually $660. Not to mention those controllers become obsolete with the next gen. Considering this along with everything else makes it obvious what wins in the long run. The only game you listed for one platform in mind was TLOU because it was originally only for one platform. Everything else was released across all. Elden Ring doesn't have PC issues and you cherry picked 2 other poor use cases. If you want to do that, look at Diablo 4 for consoles and all the stability and disconnect issues people have.
I thought I read that the PS5 gpu is most similar to the specs of a 10gb RX 6700. I have one paired with a 5600 cpu and I think that would be a closer match.
It is technically most similar to a RX 6700 but it can't clock as high as MHZ because of overheating issues so is probably closer to a 5700, which in turn boost clocks to about as high.
@@Specialblend777in a few years a mid range system will run all the new games of current better than your top end system C/W bleeding edge early adopters tax.
That's not true. My PC has an optical drive and I am able to play all of the disc-based games I have (as well as purchase more if I want to). The so-called "digital" designation refers not to how games are stored when they are installed, but how they are delivered. [12-7-23 Edited for clarity]
@@chriscollins550 I work from home, I saved money for 5 years to buy that rig, still have my previous build, it was an i5 4570 that i build myself in 2013 with a gtx1650 bought in 2020 on sale
choosing b450 motherboard will bottleneck the performance of rtx 4060, because the latter utilize pcie 4.0 16x while the motherboard capped at pcie 3.0 16x. though i don't know how much performance would drop.
What level is PS5 hw? It corresponds exactly to this HW: Processor: Ryzen 7 3700x Graphics: RX 5700X Ram. : 16 GB GDDR6 SSD ? ULTRA SPEED SSD Performance is not limited to the operating system, antivirus, and other bloatware
Your specs are way way out. The ps5's gpu is closer to a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070, no where near the RTX 4060ti you stated. An RTX 2070 comes in at around $150-300.
The PS5 is nearly a 1:1 copy of the AMD RX6700 (non-XT). Which is ~%30 faster than a 2070, so your comparison isn't valid. The bigger distinction is VRAM, 2 additional gigs on the 6700 is pretty obvious at higher resolutions.
Wrong i have the 2070 super and it by no means match my ps5 performance in nearly all games. Digital foundry keeps mentioning that it is equivalent to a ps5 because it performed similarly in some nividia sponsored titles like a plague tale, they ignored the fact that every other game run much better on ps5 than the 2070s.
@@MrErballYou are very wrong! The guy actually stated what has actually been already stated and confirmed by many great analysts. Digital Foundry being one of them. And yes 2060 super type of power, sometimes may be 2070. Paper numbers and architecture doesn't translate to real numbers in consoles, as those are APUs and not GPUs. So less power to maintain heat down, translates to less power out put. Look up all the analysis videos, there are plenty.
@@ADRzone every fuckin owner of 2070 super is already saying the same thing, every performance review on ign mentions that ps5 surpasses the 2070s by 30%.
You forgot the ease of jumping straight into a game on PS5, no error messages to deal with, no manually changing configuration files, no replacing dlls, comes with controller, cheaper games in general (when on sale compared to steam), less frequent and more stable OS updates(compared to windows),
Also add on to the fact that the due to optimization, games on pc needs almost 2x as expensive hardware for a negligible improvement over the performance on a console. PS5 (especially the slim) has the most bang for your buck for gaming performance than any PC so far.
This build isnt the PS5. The PS5 is more of Ryzen 3700X + RX 6700 but instead of 12 GB of VRAM, pretend it's 16GB since consoles have unified memory while PCs have video memory and system memory separate.
P.O.V you watch this video right after LTT's video about how they are testing PSU's, meaning the Thermal take is 80 plus White certified (not really a good thing). I would splurge a little on the PSU and go for something at least 80 plus Broze certified (more trustworthy rating)
Friendly reminder that the 80+ rating is for efficiency ONLY, and efficiency does not equal quality or how long it will last. I've had Gold EVGA PSUs blow up in a month. Gotta research each PSU individually to make sure it's quality. Corsair makes some great units btw
80+ Bronze is NOT a more trustworthy rating. It's that a few more % of your energy consumption is actually used by your PC. In general you can say that your PSU has to have at least a 80+ rating because that way you know it has been tested and won't burn down your house lol. But this guy in the video doesn't seem to know much about PC's so better to not build this almost 2x more expensive PC without any data to back up that it can render the games as fast as the PS5 😅
@@Kiss-shot500 Exactly that. So many people skip on good PSUs and cases and then wonder why are their temps bad and why isn't their PC performing as it should.
I'll agree, strictly as a gaming build, the PS5 is a better deal, but PS5 is just for gaming. Yes, it can do other things, but it's very limited. A PC is more than just gaming. It can do other things the PS5 can't or probably, more accurate, won't.
@lonewolf_09you are full of shit you are talking about intel they changed cpu lay out socket every 2 to 3 years while amd has been supported its socket it for more then that like 6 to 7 years
@lonewolf_09moreover people don't realize that PCs in the long run save's money for them as well when they buy games lots of frequent sales and there are also so many sellers on the PC market where you can get such a great deal on bundles. I would say that PC saves money in the long run than consoles in my opinion. Games Are way more expensive in consoles moreover you also have to pay to play online which is another bullshit thing that I don't like about consoles. Also PCs can be used for more than just gaming. People only judge two platforms based on the initial investment not long-term.
@@HellRaiZOR13even long term, consoles are just cheaper than a PC. Invest the extra bucks in the disc version and you easily the same discounts for games as on PC. Once you have to upgrade your pc shit's gonna get expensive. Cause what are the things that mostly run out of required performance ? The heavy hitters. CPU/GPU. So every few years you gonna spend the equivalent or more of a whole console to keep the same level. A console on the other had you gonna buy once and it will last for the whole console generator which is 7-8 years. Good luck keeping a CPU/GPU as long without heavy performance losses
Actually thanks to how much optimization matters the PS5 can equal the performance in gaming of PCs that on paper destroy it and cost 4x+ times more money. Look at star wars jedi survivor for example.
@@DKarkarov in your dreams lol. jedi survivor ran at 640p on performance mode, and 1440p upscaled to 4k on quality mode targeting 30fps, and still couldnt maintain 30 lmao. 4x equals $2000. that would get you a 4070ti and a zen4 7800x3D which is the best cpu money can buy. a ps5 would be nowhere in that ballpark unless you can show me a video of it doing native 4k at 60fps in this game, without upscaling at that 😂
The only thing you need to know is that games are optimized for consoles and will work fine. On the other hand, if you have low end PC every game could be a hit or miss on performance.
For me the issue isn’t as much cost as it is convenience. Knowing the game I buy will work on my hardware at optimal settings (that I don’t have to play with) has always been my reason for not PC gaming. Because every PC is different, this just can’t happen on computers.
For me the issue isn’t as much cost as it is freedom. Knowing that I'm not at the mercy of Big Console dictating every aspect of my gaming experience from top to bottom. I outgrew consoles (though I still play my old ones, of course).
@@Dirt_Serpent He's talking about the base-level coding of the engines and games. Since the Great Consolization of 2008, all AAA games are designed and coded for console HW **. They don't run near as well as they would on PC if they were coded specifically for PC architecture. PCs use brute force to overcome the poor coding/optimization. This is something that has made me very unhappy, but even so there are _far, far_ more reasons to support the open PC paradigm than the proprietary console paradigm. ** With a _few_ exceptions, namely Crysis: Warhead (2008), The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (2008), Left 4 Dead (2008) Left 4 Dead 2 (2009), and Portal 2 (2011).
this argument has never worked, you don't even know what you're talking about - PCs support more games than all consoles combined and they get updates for much longer and more frequently too. It might cost a little bit more to get similar spec on a PC but the game will run at higher detail, higher fps and much smoother overall. And if there's ever an issue, you can actually try and sort it out yourself because you aren't locked out. Consoles games are not better optimized they are butchered with all sorts of technologies that artificially improve frame rates and in most cases just use lower quality textures and shadows since most console gamers don't know their games look trash. Most of those technologies end up coming to PC, too...
@@aldeedbro the same thing is happening with PCs… coff coff.. DLSS Everyone views it as free performance boosts but are to dumb to realize that they are paying for AI cores in their gpu to support dlss. And have you noticed that the 40 series cards are only more expensive because of the AI cores. There wasn’t really any hardware advantages. All In all people are getting scammed for worse upgrades rather literally hardware upgrades.
Still a overkill pc can't beat simplicity that comes with consoles. Was a ps3 user and went the pc route during ps4/xbone era. So glad I'm back to Playstation
Rx6600 R5 3600 16GB 3200MHZ cl16 500GB ssd B450M D3SH Stock cooler 550w psu Cheap case Keyboard and mouse Mic Headset Windows 11 All that for 680$ and makes other stuff like game development music production livestreaming video editing easier Pay 180$ more. Unlock way more stuff
You can't really compare the two. Yeah they both play games, but one of them is infinitely more useful than just playing games and that comes at a cost
Before we get into this video, I just want to say that I'm curious to see if you're going to take into account the design and optimization that has gone into the PS5 that gains up to an extra 20% to 23%more performance out of the hardware compared to an equivalent PC.
I don't think That motherboard supports PCIe 4.0 drives. You're losing performance by not taking full advantage of the full read and write speeds in that interface. You'd need a b550 mobo.
A full fat PCIe 3.0 PC build is better than the integrated shared system laptop hardware of the PS5 that is already a few generations old. 16gb shared system memory is not better than 16+ GB dedicated system memory with 8gb+ dedicated Vram plus unlimited cooling to keep it running full out not throttled back due to the inherent laptop hardware thermal constraints on PS5.
With components getting back to somewhat reasonable prices, as long as you already have a monitor and basic accessories I'm betting you can get pretty close at that price point.
And while the PS5 is definitely a fairly priced piece of HW where you really take it up the ass in that ecosystem if paying for everything else. Expensive low value subsprictions, 70$ USD games etc.
@@gamble777888The PlayStation and Xbox stores have the same game pricing as steam now. In fact when games on the console stores are on sale they are generally on sale on steam for the same price. You do get shafted on the ~60 a year for online though.
I mean... the PS5 doesnt come with a TV.... Basically a mouse and keyboard is the only thing that can reasonably be expected to be included in pricing. And maybe controller if you dont have one laying around.
Yeah, none of the components this guy recommended is a good starting point. Other than the nvme SSD anyway, everything else he says to get is a bad purchase and will not perform well at 4k. At least not on modern games like the new horizon or cyberpunks upcoming dlc.
@@TheBlayner well for 1700 or so on amazon right now you can get a amd 5800x 3d, 32 gb of gskill ddr4 4000 speed ram, a msi mpg x570 edge motherboard, a nvidia rtx 4070, a corsair 1000 watt fully modular gold certified psu, a lian li lancool 2 mesh case, a samsung 980 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive, and an artic cooling liquid freezer 2 240mm aio for the cpu. That will beat a ps5, you get to save 1300 dollars, and you meet the system recommended spec for cyperpunk phantom liberty ultra 4k 60 fps with ray tracing off. Of course some of that relies on prime day deals and USA prices. Also I didn't add a copy of windows, but that can be gotten cheap on some sites. Yes, legally.
My man said match the ps5 then gets a 4060 ti 🤦🏻♂️ doesn’t matter how bad the game it optimised that way way overkill , a 2070 would be more like it .
the ps5 GPU is actually an earlier version of the RX 6700, which is close to the RTX 2070 super, RTX 3060, and a bit less than the RTX 4060 non Ti or super version. Can you make a PC for less than PS5 value? sure; with second hand parts, i'm talking Xeon CPU with used graphics card; my recommendation anyways. Otherwise wait for maybe black well and rx 8000-9000 chips, but knowing the GPU market you might not see much improvement for the money.
I have been a gamer for 15 years, never owned a console, my current gaming PC I bought 3 years ago and it did cost me $5k, still strong, but I'm thinking about switching to PS5, firstly if I buy a second hand PS5 it would cost me $400 secondly PC power consumption is very high, thirdly yes it is easy to upgrade the hardware of the PC but if you want to upgrade anything like a decent RAM or GPU it would cost the price of a new console.
I think the worst thing for me in regards to PC is how they constantly change CPU sockets, so you are prevented from upgrading the CPU, or in other words forced to change motherboard every so often. I think it wouldn't hurt the PC industry to offer LTS motherboards or something like that.
$770 and you can't play on it because you didn't include a controller. Which is fascinating, by the way, that the architecture itself, CPU and GPU, get cheaper every year, the price of a controller stays the same in general.
That’s the thing, when developing for a single piece of hardware that doesn’t change, you really don’t need to have a shit ton of power in a system. Also, developers have pointed out how good it feels to develop games for it, thanks to the resources Sony provides.
@@aaron4757 not really though, like a 6700 xt which is 300 dollar’s EASILY beats both next gen consoles in terms of raw power. But optimization of games and the resources Sony provides, make the games run like they are on a 6700xt if that makes sense
Many developers have also stated they prefer making games for Sony. They said when they make games for Microsoft they have to make it compatible with the S, the X, and pc simultaneously which can sometimes hinder the games optimal performance options and slow down production.
@@phant0m_633doesn’t matter if you make a pc with the same specs or better than the ps5. Technically the ps5 is capable of out performing the best pc out in the market right now Why? Because PCs are held back by previous generation hardware. Nobody remembers this but both the series x and ps5 have revolutionary architecture that surpasses PCs. What is this architecture? The architecture is the way every component connects to each other, that being: gpu, cpu, ssd, and ram. Remember when mother boards didn’t affect fps? Well guess what, now they are affecting the entire generation of computers. The positive side is that with pcie gen 5, motherboards are beginning to catch up to console architecture. But it currently won’t make a difference because games companies aren’t making games using the new architecture even for consoles. Have you noticed that games haven’t graphically changed all that much and literally a SINGLE INDIE GAME DEV can make a game that looks 10 times better than a AAA game. It’s because big companies are just making games to grab people money, they aren’t focused on make it good games like they used to.
one day I will invest in a gaming PC. but my friends that do game on PC are always irritated about the game things. Poor Ports, broken ports, visual caps even if the settings are on max, Online issues for competitive fighting games. games ruined due to online hacks. many more. I know there are so many other benefits but I prefer my Office PC for everything else. and have my console for gaming.
Yeah I used to build my own and just got tired of the issues like that...plus the troubleshooting. After a 12 hour shift of troubleshooting in IT, I don't want to do it when I sit down to have fun. 😊 I prefer console now.
Pc ports are terrible these days I have a PC running a 3090 but generally game on PS5 as multiplayer on PC is ridiculously broken with so many hackers current gen consoles are paradise in comparison to playing on PC.
I've been building pcs for 20 years and I promise out of the thousands of games there available ive only had those issues a few times. It's a drop in a bucket for comparison to the amount of games you can play that don't have those issues. Mainstream games sure because the console business is about consoles as it makes them the most money so they optimize them better.
@dayadam16 ah, so only experience the issues that guy above talked about with mainstream games, like the ones most people (see mainstream) actually want to play. 10-4.
@@mikesheber2205newer games perform worse on console than pc due to the aggressive upscaling being used. so jedi survivor for example has an internal resolution of 640p on performance mode. So if the game is performing badly on PC, it's likely much worse on console but those players are used to 30fps and low resolution so most wouln't even notice.
One thing you forgot about, especially when you quoted the price of the PS5, the optical drive aspect. In your current configuration you would have to quote the price of the digital PS5, not the disk. So for comparison reasons the cost would be $399 vs $770. Finding a 4K Blu-ray drive for the PC would be $100 or more. Also why are you showing Gears of War for a PS comparison?
The problem people seem to forget about the PS5 SSD is that they use it for extra RAM. That's why PC ports of their games requirements are stupid crazy.
You can actually set windows to do this as well. Not as streamlined as PS5 does it. Bunch of digging to find the settings for it. But I've used it before. Don't really need it when running 64gb of ram anymore tho
@@theepicduck6922From a dev perspective ram is rarely optimized for. Memory optimization is mostly about structuring data, and the goal is to have all the relevant data in the CPU cache. When it is not in cache one just assumes it is somewhere fast-ish. But weather it is RAM or SSD is rarely relevant to a dev (The important thing is that it is NOT on the cache)
PC ports have high requirements because they're ports and the PC release was an afterthought. Don't talk about things you don't know a thing about 😂. And ssd for ram isn't the magical infinite ram hack that Sony's marketing would have you believe. Fetching from ssd will always be far slower than fetching from ram for your cpu, and the extensibility of a pc makes this weird hack completely irrelevant.
One cool thing about running AMD CPU + GPU is the ability for the CPU to share VRAM with the GPU. This is done by enabling 'resize bar' in the BIOS. It can improve performance by 10% or more.
On pc there is no additional cost to play online multiplayer. On ps5 you can't play online multiplayer without ps plus unless it's a totally free to play game, and here in Canada the price for ps plus was just raised to $107 a year after tax. On ps5 all the games settings are limited to the game developers graphic settings, for example, apex legends and battlefield 2042 are limited to 60fps. Some games can reach 120fps but no higher, and the new support for vrr on ps5 has a lot of compatibility issues with monitors. There are many more reasons to buy a pc over a ps5, which I am realizing after owning a ps5. The target audience for ps5 is for people that just want plug and play convenience and aren't too tech savvy.
That's exactly what it is, that consoles are plug an play. It just works. That's why I always stayed on the console side of things. Back in January this year I finally bought my first PC for gaming ... In the months since I had way more problems with this PC than I had with consoles in the past like 10 years
I would much rather pay 1000's and have a machine capable of running games at full spec in 4k at 150+fps than settle for a console that now struggles to play most modern games at 30fps. I own a ps5, but purely for exclusives, and playing FFXVI at 30fps was simply painful!
@timothypattonjr.4270 I'm sorry but if someone wants to play a game day 1 and don't want to wait. That's exactly why you get every platform, I love gaming on PC but damn the waiting game has been crazy in recent years lol
@@1ajgtwm I just will not play a game that is at 30 FPS. It feels bad. I want great visuals but I would rather have slightly dated visuals and a bare minimum of 60 fps than to suffer with 30 FPS. I personally spend more money on my computer than my car so I can have a premium experience. If people refused to buy games that don't run at an acceptable frame rate they would stop making games run that slow.
@timothypattonjr.4270 again you can play the wait game while others will play day 1. Who cares enjoy gaming but pc gaming has became the wait for scraps platform lol Then we are not guaranteed the best ports anymore at launch. The point of waiting for specs is a waste of time now.
A $300 used PC with a RX590 plays 1080p HDR at 380fps and PS5 plays 60fps with HDR. Question is whst are you compairing? I mean the PS5s 60fps with HDR can not be compaired to a card pushing 120fps HDR in 4k.
@lonewolf_09 Exactly that. You buy the latest and greatest at first, and while it's a big upfront cost it becames cheaper down the line. But nowhere near as cheap as spending $500 and playing for 6-7 years straight.
@@reisshepThe PS5 will be stuck on 30fps with stutters and the PC can just be upgraded to the PS5 pro specs and beyond and continue to game at 60+fps always. Now with the PS5 it's just an ewaste plastic box.
@@leanlifter1 Your old PC components are also e-waste? And you change them more often? I have 3 GPUs under my bed just being e-waste because they're not up to par, and they're bought like a year or two apart each (780 Ti, 980 Ti, 1080 Ti). There was no way neither of those would last me through the entire generation with the exception of 1080 Ti, but it's not an RT capable card so I have no use for it. The point is that I paid well over $2k for my PC (tower only, without any monitors or peripherals) only to have it be outdated quickly. I played Hogwarts Legacy at 30fps on 1080p with DLSS turned on. I couldn't reach 60fps.
@@reisshep They can be reused. The consoles are just plastic ewaste products for people to lazy to take the time to learn how to properly configure a computer for the best quality and performance that consoles can never achieve because they are controlled obsolete and locked down proprietary ewaste from launch day. Heck you can even use K/M on consoles lol.
@@leanlifter1 By that logic I can also use my PS5 to play older disk based games when it becomes obsolete. Not everyone can afford a PC and not everyone wants to have a dedicated space in their home for a gaming PC.
No doubt consoles still represent better bang for your buck. But I'm still tempted to finally invest in a proper gaming rig again despite owning both ps5 and series x. It's just difficult for me to gauge at what price point do I need to hit to notice a significantly better gaming experience vs console. If I'm spending a few hundred more simply to match a ps5 experience that's using midrange parts, then surely I need to invest in a high end rig. For example so I can play starfield at 60fps at high/ultra high settings. I basically need something like a 4070ti minimum or 4080 don't I? That's easily a £1500 plus rig there. Probably worth doing for anyone who can splash that but that seems to be the reality if you want to game at noticeably better settings compared to console?
Yea….that’s the nature of the expensive pc beast. If you want to notice a difference graphically, then I’d say you’d need to spend at least 1500.00 4080 would do it, since it can handle raytracing well in some games at 1440p with high settings.
A pc similar to the ps5 would cost about $600, but getting an rx 7800xt or geforce equivalent (give and take) would be a big improvement, and for high fps, a 5800x3d would be a big step up for the cpu. The ps5 is like a ryzen 3700 and rx 6700, but with both underclocked, making it more like a ryzen 3600 and rx 6600xt. Upgrade those to a ryzen 5600x and an rx7800xt and you'll still be at $1000 or so. Really, the nice thing about the pc is you can use it for many other things, and when one part is outdated, you can upgrade just that one part and sell your old one. Or you can do what I do and just accumulate enough parts to build a spare pc lol. Buying the top end stuff is definitely super expensive, but maybe build something cheap for now, even if it's not as good as the ps5, and then see if you like it enough to invest more into it. Don't be afraid to put it together yourself. All the parts are made to go where they're supposed to without fail, built to long-established standards. The cpu only has one spot to go into, the gpu as well (use the top-most slot), same with an nvme, and power supply. Anyway, pc's are fun to tinker with, and easy to upgrade, so I recommend them. Lmk if you decide to do it and need a tutorial or some troubleshooting.
A Ryzen 3600, b550 with wifi, rx 6600xt, 1TB nvme, 16 GB of 3200cl16, 650W power supply, and a case. That's about $600 with all new parts, and at least as good as a PS5. @@MrQwertypoiuyty
5600x3d and Radeon GPU would be my choice. However, the console will always beat performance/dollar metric. To match the PS5 at 4K, the GPU would cost more than a new console LOL.
I think we're forgetting a decent mouse and keyboard in order to play those games well... at least in the general point of view, which could add the cost around $80-200 depends on their personal preferences.
cool video, and well done. I also think that going the pc route has advantages in the longer term. The ability to continually upgrade a pc alllows you to get maximum use/value out of your components not to mention residual value of functional replaced components. I think console is the "easy way to go" and understand the thinking but I think that the price/performance on pc's and pc components has been improving for years and it doesn't look that will change in the foreseeable future.
not really, for example i have a i7 3gen I am still using because I have added some ram I got for free and made at least 3 upgrades to the GPU since I bought it in 2012 I have no interest in going higher than 1080 and am able to use all software and games I need. So in the last 11 years spent less than 200 on upgrades and it is still going strong, at least for what I need it for @@gilco2832
Consoles are meant to be easy. I can buy a game and know it will work on my console just fine. On PC it's a bit of a gamble how well it will run. I know how to work with PC hardware, I just don't want the hastle. I just want to sit down after work and jump into the game I want. I've never cared about optimal performance and insane graphics. That's who consoles are for.
Here is a more accurate PC parts equivalent: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz without the boost clocks enabled 8 GB of RAM (Memory is shared with the GPU on a PS5, so 8GB is fair on a PC) The RDNA 2.0 equivalent of an RTX 2070 or RTX 2070 Super 1 TB NVMe SSD
Except PS5 GPU doesn't have 8GB, it has 15GB, because the machine doesn't really need RAM for anything else than the games on it. Think of it as a unified memory. PS5 is a games ONLY "pc", not general purpose.
Wtf was even the point in this video? You didn't even build anything, the price much higher than a PS5, you forgot to include the keyboard and windows and there was no picture of the build at the end.
Most people who do these comparisons feel the ps5 can only be used to game and is useless otherwise so they think of getting a pc but then they look at pc prices and become conflicted looking for how much they would gain by getting a pc. Atleast IMO.
Don't forget to add in the yearly PSN cost for online access. Consoles generally have a 8-10 year lifespan so PSN which is now $80/yr you're adding in $640-$800 to the cost of that cheap console. Now you are in the $1,150-$1,300 pc range. You can build a pretty damn good pc for $1,300. Now factor in that with emulation that PC can play the games from near every console generation. I have games from 20 years ago on my steam account that I still play from time to time. While this is a semi accurate video it does not address the value per dollar advantage a PC has with the sheer amount of versatility a PC provides. I can use my xbox elite controller with my PC, or a PS5 controller, or I can use my VKB gladiator dual flight sticks for atmo flight and space sims that consoles could only dream about running. And for the record, I have a PS4 and an Xbox series X neither of which have been turned on in well over a year and just collect dust now.
true people forget that game consoles are so cheap compared to pc because of after sales services like psn, gamepass, extra controllers and games which you can purchase only through one particular party. most of the time consoles are sold at a very low profit margins because of these factors
I dare you to buy a PC that costs $1300 that will last you 10 years. I bought mine for well over 2k a few years ago and I'm already struggling, and my upgrade that I need (a better GPU) costs almost $1300, go figure.
@petarrica3134 a few years? How many years and what card? I mean, I built my GFs PC for $1,500 a few years ago and it still works just fine with new games. Your anecdotal evidence means nothing without specifics ie. Specs and exactly how old it is. And why it needs upgraded. And why you feel you need a $1,300 gpu.
That would make this video pointless as used availability and prices can vary significantly. Plus, you’re not buying used hardware when purchasing a new console. So that alone is enough justification to rule out used parts for a video like this.
The thing is that ps5 is made JUST for gaming whereas the pcs core and gpu is also being used on windows or many other thing so it will be abit unfair for a all in rig vs a JUST for gaming console
Ryzen 5600x comes with the same cooler and can be got for the same price now. That Motherboard does not support the speeds you claim as it only a PCIe Gen3 M.2 not Gen 4. You could have got the Gigabyte B550m which has PCIe Gen4 M.2 for a lower price
@@LudusAurea the ps5's gpu keeps getting stronger and stronger to these people everytime a new nvidia gpu comes out lol, back then it was a 2070super, then the 3000 came theb suddenly it matches the 3070, now that the 4000 series is here I've seen people saying it matches a 4060ti lol.
Based on what I read online, on the Nvidia side, an RTX 2070 Super is as powerful as the GPU in the PS5. The limiting factor though is the 8GB VRAM. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
You lost me at 4060ti, the FP32 performance of a 4060ti is 114% greater than the PS5's GPU. The 5700xt on the other hand only has a 5% difference in comparison to the PS5 and would be a better match since the 4060ti way outperforms the PS5 GPU.
Raw performance wise I completely agree. The thing about PC vs console configurations is the optimization. Devs. only have to optimize for one set of hardware with console, but on PC there are so many different configurations.
Higher performance hardware can be seen as an offset to the difference in optimization.
@@630majic I completely agree with you, but that raw power being far more than that of a console, it allows for higher settings, fps, and resolutions. It's just a poor comparison in my opinion. The optimization across the board has been lacking too, regardless of it being on PC or console
@@FrankTheTank184 Yeah, no kidding. It seems to be prevalent with AAA titles lately. Holding hope that future releases are brought to the table with good day one optimization.
You are correct 💯
It may be but performance wise I don't see it doubling the performance of a 6700.
Plus, keep in mind that these are US component prices. The US market is significantly cheaper when it comes to electronics to almost everywhere else in the world.
Not as cheap as where I live, Guernsey, we get European prices, minus VAT, I got a brand new 4090 for £1400 while the rest of Britain paid £2000. That's why we are classed as a tax haven. anything on Amazon removes 25% of the price if shipped to Guernsey.
@@RivalGrimReaper How much is citizenship over there
So is the PS5.
@@touristofsongs4946 "How much is citizenship over there?" 25% more than Britan.
In Europe it is as cheap or cheaper than in the usa
One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of games aren't optimized for PC, so you'll need better specs to get the same performance. Hopefully with Steam pushing the Steamdeck game companies will start investing in PC optimization.
Right. RTX cards do get DLSS to push performance at better image quality, though.
@@koenuffing4416 Most games are designed with DLSS enabled. So when Steam tells you that the recommended hardware is a 3060 they're assuming you're using DLSS
@@Ky-iz8pyWhat he said regardless of how he said it is still facts though. You bought a GPU with 8GB of vram at the start of a new console generation and now you're complaining that games run trash but you're the one who put yourself in that situation. You build for the future when you buy/build a pc, you bought for the here and now and now you're paying for that mistake physical, mentally, and financially. Take accountability for your own ignorant decisions, its what men do.
Typical pc gamer. Not only living in denial but insanely prideful about it. Too bad all that gaming power is not making you happy in life, nor making games any more optimized for your overpriced Fap station. @@saltmaker5353
I think you guys don't know what optimization means. There is no "PC specific" optimization that needs to be done. PCs have a bigger footprint running in the background. It's called your operating system. There's also things like the hard drive. If your HDD is causing a bottle neck, upgrading to an NVMe drive will fix that. No amount of optimizations will fix that. I just got a 2TB NVMe for $150. A 500GB was $500, just 5 years ago. You have to understand that PCs primary focus isn't gaming, so you have to consider the overhead, (or disregard it, depending on how you look at it.)...
Ultimately, you could just Optimize your spending budget. Built my PC in 2017 and it still outperforms PS5.
I don't come to these videos for the content. I come for the comments, because those are real people that ACTUALLY know what they're talking about lol. Two of my best gaming PCs were built off of commenters over the years.
exactly i agree, I got all my PC parts from 'reddit comments' and it works great and saved alot of money too!
Yup Videos are important but comments are no less important. Many a times more.
Yeah because comments also usually correct anything wrong in the video or give better recommendations that have higher value, and overall just help you with stuff
😂what your pc?
Building a pc w/ the help of forums, qoura, Reddit, and recently added Chatgpt made me to considers opinions and base a general estimate. A collective thought.
The 4060ti might be underpowered as a gpu but it's a bit overkill compared to ps5's gpu
Agreed … love the idea of this video, but I think mistakes may have been made w some decisions… but hey I still enjoyed the content so I will shut
My mouth now lol
The bandwidth will hold it back for anything going forward, even compared to consoles. It's more E-waste.
Nope
He said 4060 not 4060ti bro.
No that's incorrect. And none of this matters because most AAA games are made and optimized for consoles.
770$ is probably the cost of a single component from this video in my country
sedlyfe
In my country this pc would cost around 1100
Usd
cap
What the hell, where do you live? You guys have like 70% tax?
B450 chipset doesn’t support PCI-e 4.0, only 3.0. You’ve utterly gimped the drive to about half its speed and is bottlenecking the 8 lane PCI-E 4060.
True but you wouldn't notice it in games anyway.
Gimps are hot
*YOU'VE UTTERLY GIMPED THE DRIVE TO ABOUT HALF ITS SPEED*
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH* _passes out_
Reality: He lost 2 fps in minecraft
0 fps loss
@@MrPruske The 4060 is an 8 lane PCI-E 4.0 gpu (vs the standard 16 lanes), meaning 8 lanes on a 3.0 motherboard is limiting half of the bandwidth that goes to the GPU. This will 100% affect FPS. It has already been proven, multiple times over.
I used to be a PC gamer exclusively way back when, but somewhere along the way, I started using consoles more and now use them exclusively. Will they ever match a custom-built PC in performance and power? No, but I'm ok with that. As mentioned in this comment section several times, the primary reason I like consoles is that the games I play are designed to play on them. When I was building gaming PCs, I was always concerned with my hardware being good enough to play games. That and upgrading became really expensive.
Doesn't sound like you like games enough dude
No offense but it sounds like you're not building a PC with the right budget.
@@gomperhooblet ridiculous thing to say
so u need to have a pc to like games?
laughs in GoW and Uncharted and Spider-Man 2
keep in mind I have both but tbh playing in a relaxed way knowing my console will do 4k and play any game with ease without the need to upgrade with an extra 500$ on a gpu or cpu is a great feeling
@@bercal6180Wow you have 3 exclusive games with 5 hours of game play each 🎉. Pc has wayyy more options, games, emulators etc. You can get the performance of ps5 with used parts easily with the used market. You dont have to pay every year a fee to play online (now each even more 😂😂). You have cheaper prices and better sales. And you have something called TRUE 4K and not upscaled which is not smt to flex about on ps5, you can just do it on pc too ... And you can upgrade your pc when the next console comes back or even later since you always have settings and mods to help you play almost everything with a potato (i have a steamdeck and although it doesnt have good specs it can still run anything you throw at it 30fps min) people complaining for not playing a game because they are spoiled from other games eith better performance, you can always turn down settings to play it. The only good thing about consoles is if you simple dont want to do even 1s of search and just plug and play (but that leaves you with trash default apps, 0% customizability and trash operating system only for games)
yeah man you should have spent at least 10K in order to play a game in Ultra graphivs
started with PC when I was a teen, and I was a meticulous one. As an adult with responsibilities, I prefer consoles now for optimization, price, early releases, exclusives, and time. I remember going home from work and I would troubleshoot things like RDR2 because it kept crashing every 10 minutes or Death Stranding and its anti-aliasing issues, which I fixed, but with trial and error, searching for solutions, fiddling both in game and NVIDIA settings, searching solutions on Reddit or UA-cam. I'm through all that stress, and I'm enjoying my time with the PS5. Also allotting some money to different hobbies and time with the family. best decision I ever made.
Welcome to the other side. As I grow older, I prefer console to PC. It’s basically plug and play.
That's the thing that keept me in console gaming for over 10 years now 👍. It just works.
This year in January I bought my first gaming pc for farming simulator 22 because the mods on PC are just on a different level.
Well .... Within the past few months I had way more problems than with consoles in the past 10 years
Couple noobs here or what. Update your PC and it works as normal. The titles available on PC are unrivalled, a lot being unavailable in either Playstation or Xbox. Have fun playing at 30fps
@@TheLastEpiscopaliani see where you’re coming from but this assumes everyone that plays on pc has higher end specs which isn’t the case
@@nico3064 With greater power comes greater responsibility. I had all the same issues coming into PC gaming as well. I powered through and learned a shit ton, and now I rarely have issues. I can't imagine gaming on consoles anymore. So very limited.
For those who actually want a pc on part with a ps5 .
It costs 600 usd .
R5 5600 with rx 7600
If you can get a good deal on a 6700xt your getting way more performance .
Btw Amd makes the pc 5 chipz, the 6700(non xt) is basically a pc version of the pc gpu , but it can boost 10% faster .
If your willing to buy a used gpu , you can get a 6700xt /6750xt you can get them for 190-220 usd in the Us .
I will be honest with you. i lost you on the gpu . The cheapest 4060 on the market 399usd is almost as expensive as the ps5. You can get a new ps5 for 408usd .
the 4060 is way overkill, the PS5 is about the power of the 2070.
You think Sony pay store prices for their components? They buy millions of these components, so they make deals with the providers (like AMD).. Not only that, but lifetime deals of say 8 years and tens of millions of components. Perhaps AMD lose money of the first 10 million, and only make a little on the next 10 million, but then they profit huge on the last tens of millions.
PC people simply don't understand the console market.. They think of it as a "different PC market", but it's not, everything is quite different. From the OS, to the machine purpose, to suppliers, to game development etc etc etc..
@@johnwayne-kd1pn while they do get them cheaper, they still don't get top of the line.
4K on a PS5 is not true 4K resolution.
It is upscaled. Which means even if they were to get a discount from AMD, it would still be expensive as hell to get a true 4k60 machine.
@@Xanatos0504 Sure. What I mean to say was only that most likely Sony pays a "lifetime" price for components, tens of millions of them. Not even regular production cost.
At least that's how it seems to me, and I'm guessing Xbox does the same, seeing how it is also priced below market.
Besides that, both initially, despite even that, sell their consoles at a loss.
Yeah, I don't think we get 4K and 60fps until next generation, also on PC, around that time. Anyways, by that time, Raytracing will have progressed ALOT too and become a viable technology.. Today it is just in its infancy, or just past it, somewhere.
Seeing how expensive it is (GPU/resource wise), perhaps even the next generation will be a compromise and a choice somehow. No doubt some will use it as an excuse to continue using the awful 30fps.
But well, perhaps I'm wrong.. But global raytracing should be possible by then, and so should say 120fps 4k.. I really hope 30fps will just die then, but I'm not too hopeful.
remember, it might be a little bit more expensive to build a gaming pc, but you are building a pc, so it's a multipurpose device, plus you get access to steam, epic store and gog which means, there is a huge library of games you could play and a lot of them are dirt cheap if you buy it with the right time...
you also get access to xbox games if you wanted too and you can also emulate any game you want... you cant play pokemon games on PS5, but you can on PC.
I don't think average people need a gaming pc as a multipurpose device. You don't need a powerful pc if you're not a content creator or streamer. My choice was PS5 plus a cheap laptop, which was overall still cheaper than a gaming pc.
Having huge library and emulator is a fair point though.
@@createLazyWorkerJack 100FPS, 4k max setting pc's are built for $700-$800 daily. But whatever helps ya sleep at night kiddo
@@OberWanKenobii I still need a laptop for work so gaming pc won't save my money.
@createLazyWorkerJack you children have an excuse for everything, huh? Do you think normal programs just don't run on desktops?
And I can already read your next excuse: "oh, I need to bring my laptop in to work."
Who the hell is playing Pokémon lol?
This video reminds me on the The Verge how to build a gaming pc video, in terms of the choices that they made for the components. Crazy enough that the comparision to the ps5 is lame for the fact that it comes ready to go out of the box with a controller and a BD drive and they were no where near the price point of a ps5.
They where no where near the price of a ps5 cuz the pc they built absolutely obliterates the ps5s performance 😂
You need to take into account the fact that you need to pay for PS Plus for basically anything online. PC has no mandatory subscriptions really. Over 4 or 5 years PS plus comes out to a few hundred bucks.
THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
By choosing parts that are way more powerful than what the ps5 has, of course it'll be much more expensive. If they actually picked parts that are inline with the spec of the ps5 like a ryzen 3600 and a 2080 then the price would be close.
one thing is 4060 is way more powerful and has frame generation which make it overkill and to forget the fact that you can have gamepass or buy games at lower price in a steam sale rather paying more to sony in a locked environment. extra 250$ is manageable because you dont need to pay sony to play online multiplayer and hence it covers the cost over there
Exactly, plus the 4060 was essentially HALF of the PC's total cost!
Thanks for that, most people don't add that. I'd say add 5 years with the console. So let's say 330 at least on top of it.
@@xpodx tbh ps5 is really worth it unless you are not playing multiplayer game and not buying their shit subscription. Haptics are really good and optimisation will be great too. My only complain is its almost 3 years and slim is about arrive but they have not reduced the price
@@likhithm3097 I mean to each there own.
The comments are hilarious. PC gamers acting like snobs and forgetting why we play games in the first place. Fighting over which cards to use, who is superior, how consoles have no value and at the same time complain about bad ports, graphic cards and parts issues, my card is better, my case is better, my power supply is better 😂😂 its like watching children fight over a toy at walmart.
I agree. I'm a PC gamer and I've never understood this bullshit. We all have exactly the same thing in common. We like gaming! That's that.
Sounds just like console fanboys
@@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE why do you care?
If you want to be that petty, I can be that petty, too.
It would be "fanboy", not "fanboys", because you are replying to one person, that I assume you think are a console gamer, correct?
It's fucking stupid, isn't it, when someone judges someone for something that really doesn't even fucking matter...
"fanboy", not fanboys"... Sit with that, and take it onboard. Realise how fucking stupid, and meaningless all of this is.
@@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE u sound like u can afford 4000$ pc but in reality is broke 😂
1800 bucks can get you a nice pc these days. but you dont have to be a snob about it. just a suggestion, but step off that pedestal u put yourself on and come back down to reality with the rest of us. @@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE
Beginning of the video: PC makes more sense from financial perspective.
End of video: PC costs almost 50% more than PS5.
i would have liked to see fps comparisons from the ps5 and comparative pc
Yes. There are plenty of current games including those Sony early exclusives out on both platforms.
It would be interesting to show the comparison between the suggested spec in the video, as well as a few in the comments.
gamer nexus did it two years ago and matched the ps5 to a gtx 1070 pc :P a 1070 gpu cost cost about 50 dollars
I read the 1070 is roughly a 6.5 TFLOP card
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bullshxt AF@@madsimilius7057
@@madsimilius7057well try games of 2023 with a 1070 and you will see it lost even on fhd haha
Is that motherboard going to fit into the mATX case? Let's see you build this rig an benchmark it. You could have saved some money by going with a PCIe 3 SSD.
Or just buying a ps5
hahahahahaha i just wanted also to ask same question :P how he will fit ATX mobo into mATX case lol :P
@@mikesheber2205 a pc could do other stuff besides gaming that consoles couldn't, and if you build a more powerful pc now, when PS6 comes out, you'll only need to swap up some parts to match the newer consoles, or who knows, it might even still be a match.. and i think even the specs in this video is already above the performance of a PS5
@@mikesheber2205 lol first try finding one thatis not the same price as that PC
Because of the mass market adaptation of consoles and franchises that are exclusive to a given console (at least initially), many games are optimized to extract maximum performance from the respective console. This is similar in concept to an Apple computer having inferior components to a PC on paper but yet out-performing that PC in reality : there is a very tight coupling between software and hardware that much like Apple, consoles also enjoy.
This basically means it is very hard to compare "apples to apples" between PC and a given console just like it is hard to compare an Apple computer with a PC if you only look at the specs. Best way to compare I'd argue is to look at performance comparisons : analyze the resolution, frame rates, and approximate the graphical settings of games available on both PC and a given console and then figure out what it takes in terms of a PC that can achieve similar performance to the console with that given game.
how do you plan to fit that ATX board on a MATX case? you also wasted that PCIE Gen 4.0 nvme on that mobo which doesn't support Gen 4
Haha they clearly didn’t think it through
The GPU is overkill also, it has been said that the PS5 is around the 2060 super to may be 2070, so is the Xseries.
Then he made his GPU choice by matching Tflops 😂, no one buys a GPU based on Tflops.
I would agree with the 2070. But the 4060, ain't really better then the 2070
@ADRzone Going overkill on GPU can be somewhat justified due to how awful the optimization has been lately for pc ports (hell AAA has been real awful there lately).
@@theepicduck6922 I know... But the thing is that the 2070 is already an overkill GPU, when compared to the PS5 and Series X. Because these GPUs are the ones capable to match the performance and visuals, sometimes over taking the consoles, sometimes falling slightly short, but most times being better.
This is why the 2060super and 2070 are considered the best match.
If these GPUs will get the same love and optimization that consoles get, they'll actually be way overkill.
You could just use a Ryzen 7 3700X for the CPU. Honestly, even a 10th gen from intel would be comparable to the PS5 like the 10600K.
Honestly, PC gaming is fun and all but it's costly.
Personally I think he should have went with an actual RDNA series gpu because most ps5 games don't use ray tracing or take such a hit in performance that it'd be a comparable card possibly shave off that extra $70 and have longevity (like an actual game console) due to the higher RAM in AMD cards. But this is just being nitpicky because bro took the time to make a whole video.
Probably an rx 6600 or rx 6650xt would be a better comparison and are a fair bit cheaper than a 4060. Rx 6600 is probably slightly below ps5 performance, but you can find a new one on sale for under $200 now.
@@Flyon86 hell even the 6600M is abouit 5% slower than the PS5
The specs are way too off.. the closest match is as under
Zen 2 - R7 3700X (8C, 16T)
RDNA 2 - RX 6750 XT (overclocked)
Memory - 2 x 8GB DDR4 , 3200Mhz
Storage - 980 Pro 1TB
Mobo - X570 based entry level mbo (for PCI 4.0 storage)
These specs will be best suited for native 1440p 60fps gaming.
That 7000mbs speed of the ssd is irrelevant to your build. Your motherboard only allows up to 3500mbs speed I think. If you want to maximize 7kmbs, you should have gone with an x570 motherboard.
or a b550
Seems like most people who would be interested in doing this are probably pc owners already and would simply need to upgrade a few components. I've been using the same pc case for years and have upgraded it several times and usually my psu lasts through several upgrades. I think you also have to consider value of a PC vs a PS5 too, I can do a lot more with my PC than I can with my PS5 and I have all kinds of electronic devices that require a PC.
This is a two edged sword. PS5 is a pure "gaming PC" so to say, so it's fully optimized for playing games, not doing other things. But sure, most people have a PC or something to do other things than just play games. Usually a laptop or something like that, but desktop works just as well, and like you say is then 2 in 1, so you don't need a 2nd PC besides your gaming PC (PS5)..
The next question is, do you even need a PC ? I bought one for gaming in January. I haven't had one before and I never needed one 😆
Worst thing for me about pc gaming has been the updates and the having trouble shoot all the time with random issues for someone like me that gets out of work and just want to play a few games I ended up on my ps5 of Xbox series x and barely use my gaming pc. I have also found in fps games you run into so many cheaters.
Warranty is also much easier to obtain on a PS5. In Australia, you can get an in-store replacement. So no need to wait for a technician or yourself to check which component is at fault, you just have the whole unit replaced. Thankfully though, I've been lucky and have never once got a faulty PC component despite the fact I not only build multiple PCs for myself, but also for others as well. But that could be due to Australia's strict consumer standards.
Only problem I find with consoles, especially Sony is when they try launching them at $800+ AUD. Not only that, but they have a really bad launch lineup of games. It definitely makes it hard for consoles to be a year 1 or year 2 buy. $600 AUD is more reasonable as a consumer-friendly, high end console but even that will still limit buyers greatly unless you have a strong game lineup. Xbox and Switch have much more convincing pricing model.
Gross over exaggeration. I’ve had to troubleshoot an issue once in the past 6 years and it wasn’t even game breaking
@@LudusAurea What you may not be considering are the steps you've taken to avoid the need of fixing or troubleshooting. I have computers that outside of regular updates (which even that can be hard for people) I've never had to touch in 6 years as well. Although I probably should.
A lot of issues people have with computers is due to Windows updates. Half of my business is driving out to people's houses and clicking windows update for $50 per job. Some I can get them to do it over the phone, but a lot of my clients just prefer me to come out and do it.
what issue with updates? and troubleshooting issues all the time? both sounds like a YOUR system issue cuz my pc is on 24/7 and not a single issue. Anytime im ready to game i jus go. You overexaggerate and what you said sound like your system is just trash
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Gpu inside the ps5 is more inline with rx 5700xt/rx 6700. And the cpu with its 1/4 memory chache vs desktop variant means it performs more like a ryzen 7 1700.
looking at specs, the ps5 gpu is pretty much the rx 6700
Id say the cpu is a 3700 non x, if such a cpu existed
@@JeffCollins05 an downclocked 3700x? for temperature purposes probably
@@iamagood6452 yeah that would also be an option
@@JeffCollins05 No, a 3700 is sustantially faster than whats in a ps5. You dont just look at the number of cores, there are more things involved. Severely cutdown cache, frequency and power. The ps5 cpu is a 4800S, sold in China. DF already got one and did videos about it. There are games like Cyberpunk or Metro where a vanilla 3600 is 40-50% faster than the ps5 cpu
Well, building your own PC is the best thing you can do.
If you pay for a pre built, you are paying a 15-20% markup to whoever actually built it
Also, games that are made for PS5 are made exactly for PS5 and you dont have adjust many settings to make it run optimally
Also, while your more expensive computer parts become outdated over time, new consoles will always relatively cheap
Also many games are made for consoles anyway and end up not running well on PC ie Elden Ring, Jedi Survivor, The Last of Us
Pre builts may have some good specs but they cheap out where possible to keep profit margins high. Build a pc.
Computer parts have longer lifespans than entire consoles. You also don't have to completely rebuild your PC to stay up to date, just a part here and there. The initial cost may be a little bit above consoles, but you save in the long run. After a few years you're replacing your entire console while a pc only needs to replace 1 or 2 parts, making it way cheaper to move to "next gen". Not to mention that people often forget about CONTROLLERS when it comes to console when you're considering the price. Controllers are about $80 a pop now and most people want at least 2 of them. So your $500 Ps5 is actually $660. Not to mention those controllers become obsolete with the next gen. Considering this along with everything else makes it obvious what wins in the long run.
The only game you listed for one platform in mind was TLOU because it was originally only for one platform. Everything else was released across all.
Elden Ring doesn't have PC issues and you cherry picked 2 other poor use cases. If you want to do that, look at Diablo 4 for consoles and all the stability and disconnect issues people have.
@@BamBam0141 Yeah, consoles.
@@kieranczyzniejewski2178 LOLno. But go off. Just say you like throwing money in the garbage.
@@BamBam0141 Sounds like what you're advocating for
I thought I read that the PS5 gpu is most similar to the specs of a 10gb RX 6700. I have one paired with a 5600 cpu and I think that would be a closer match.
I've seen 2070 too, either way not a shock that nothing comes close to it within a $400 price tag
5600 is far too powerful i think the 3600 is closer
Ryzen 3600 is more like it
It is technically most similar to a RX 6700 but it can't clock as high as MHZ because of overheating issues so is probably closer to a 5700, which in turn boost clocks to about as high.
@@jakesghost5267arguably a 2070ti or a 2080 , maybe in some games even higher
Might as well get an NVME samsung 970 if you dont have pcie4.0. 6650 xt also way cheaper than that 4060
guy does not know what he is even talking about so what do you expect.
This PC runs 4K @120? I built a 13th gen ddr5 3090 premium build and I settled on a 1440 target. That was wayyyy more than $750.
could be due to the fact that prices are cheaper in the US.
@@skellecraft2464 I'm in the US. My 3090 and i7 13th gen were $1300 alone. Total was somewhere around 3400 and I can't run AA games at 4K 120fps.
@@Specialblend777in a few years a mid range system will run all the new games of current better than your top end system C/W bleeding edge early adopters tax.
Nah, but the PS5 doesn't either.
The PS5 Can’t even run a stable 120 FPS in 1080p Fortnite let alone 4k
And 120 FPS is for only comp shooters Not Casual Games
It’s worth mentioning that technically your games are stored digitally on PC.
So perhaps a better comparison would be to the digital version.
That's not true. My PC has an optical drive and I am able to play all of the disc-based games I have (as well as purchase more if I want to).
The so-called "digital" designation refers not to how games are stored when they are installed, but how they are delivered.
[12-7-23 Edited for clarity]
@@bricaaron3978they sell discs for pc games? 💀
@@balloonb0y677 Sure! Just not new PC games. :P
My current rig:
i7 13700f
rtx 3060 12gb
asus z790 H gaming
32gb 5200 DDR5
Crucial SSD 500gb (system W11)
2 1tb nvme 820 sticks
MSI A750f psu
MSI gungnir 100d case
Asus 4k 28" monitor
Includes [Win11, Office '21, antivirus, kb, mouse, speakers, headset]
Total: roughly $2,200 (2,221 usd)
Double that price in Europe on that rig.
2.2k for a 3060 build....?
Super expensive.
Yes it is. I could not afford that. My house rent is almost that every month.
@@chriscollins550 I work from home, I saved money for 5 years to buy that rig, still have my previous build, it was an i5 4570 that i build myself in 2013 with a gtx1650 bought in 2020 on sale
choosing b450 motherboard will bottleneck the performance of rtx 4060, because the latter utilize pcie 4.0 16x while the motherboard capped at pcie 3.0 16x. though i don't know how much performance would drop.
What level is PS5 hw? It corresponds exactly to this HW:
Processor: Ryzen 7 3700x
Graphics: RX 5700X
Ram. : 16 GB GDDR6
SSD ? ULTRA SPEED SSD
Performance is not limited to the operating system, antivirus, and other bloatware
I was waiting to see you build it and find out the ATX motherboard wasn't going to fit into the Micro ATX case.
And that his gen 4 SSD won't run at full speed on a B450 motherboard.
Your specs are way way out. The ps5's gpu is closer to a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070, no where near the RTX 4060ti you stated. An RTX 2070 comes in at around $150-300.
The PS5 is nearly a 1:1 copy of the AMD RX6700 (non-XT). Which is ~%30 faster than a 2070, so your comparison isn't valid. The bigger distinction is VRAM, 2 additional gigs on the 6700 is pretty obvious at higher resolutions.
Wrong i have the 2070 super and it by no means match my ps5 performance in nearly all games. Digital foundry keeps mentioning that it is equivalent to a ps5 because it performed similarly in some nividia sponsored titles like a plague tale, they ignored the fact that every other game run much better on ps5 than the 2070s.
@@MrErballYou are very wrong! The guy actually stated what has actually been already stated and confirmed by many great analysts. Digital Foundry being one of them. And yes 2060 super type of power, sometimes may be 2070.
Paper numbers and architecture doesn't translate to real numbers in consoles, as those are APUs and not GPUs. So less power to maintain heat down, translates to less power out put.
Look up all the analysis videos, there are plenty.
@@mohamad-abdoYikes, you may have a faulty 2070 'cause damm my brother, that is a huge statement to make.
@@ADRzone every fuckin owner of 2070 super is already saying the same thing, every performance review on ign mentions that ps5 surpasses the 2070s by 30%.
You forgot the ease of jumping straight into a game on PS5, no error messages to deal with, no manually changing configuration files, no replacing dlls, comes with controller, cheaper games in general (when on sale compared to steam), less frequent and more stable OS updates(compared to windows),
Also add on to the fact that the due to optimization, games on pc needs almost 2x as expensive hardware for a negligible improvement over the performance on a console. PS5 (especially the slim) has the most bang for your buck for gaming performance than any PC so far.
This build isnt the PS5. The PS5 is more of Ryzen 3700X + RX 6700 but instead of 12 GB of VRAM, pretend it's 16GB since consoles have unified memory while PCs have video memory and system memory separate.
P.O.V you watch this video right after LTT's video about how they are testing PSU's, meaning the Thermal take is 80 plus White certified (not really a good thing).
I would splurge a little on the PSU and go for something at least 80 plus Broze certified (more trustworthy rating)
Friendly reminder that the 80+ rating is for efficiency ONLY, and efficiency does not equal quality or how long it will last. I've had Gold EVGA PSUs blow up in a month. Gotta research each PSU individually to make sure it's quality. Corsair makes some great units btw
80+ Bronze is NOT a more trustworthy rating. It's that a few more % of your energy consumption is actually used by your PC. In general you can say that your PSU has to have at least a 80+ rating because that way you know it has been tested and won't burn down your house lol. But this guy in the video doesn't seem to know much about PC's so better to not build this almost 2x more expensive PC without any data to back up that it can render the games as fast as the PS5 😅
@@Kiss-shot500 Exactly that. So many people skip on good PSUs and cases and then wonder why are their temps bad and why isn't their PC performing as it should.
Thats a F tier in the cultist list. terrible video
comparing a driveless build to a ps5 with BR drive thats not a balance comparison
Also forgetting the 60$ controller on purpose :)
I'll agree, strictly as a gaming build, the PS5 is a better deal, but PS5 is just for gaming. Yes, it can do other things, but it's very limited. A PC is more than just gaming. It can do other things the PS5 can't or probably, more accurate, won't.
Well said
Facts
Plus no subscription service to play online and lots of cheap gaming deals
Yeah would take it back! The pc is cheaper now that the subscription just to play online increased.
@@sovietninja6865 I can just buy a cheap $300 laptop and do my homework,etc since I don't game on PC.
I'd say 6600xt or 5700xt would be better match - same technology - and cheaper
Why would you go for a 700w psu? With those components a 350-400w psu is completely fine.
Got a 3060 ti and a 5800x and it blows my mind everyday after almost 2 years now , love this pc
@lonewolf_09you are full of shit you are talking about intel they changed cpu lay out socket every 2 to 3 years while amd has been supported its socket it for more then that like 6 to 7 years
@lonewolf_09moreover people don't realize that PCs in the long run save's money for them as well when they buy games lots of frequent sales and there are also so many sellers on the PC market where you can get such a great deal on bundles. I would say that PC saves money in the long run than consoles in my opinion. Games Are way more expensive in consoles moreover you also have to pay to play online which is another bullshit thing that I don't like about consoles. Also PCs can be used for more than just gaming.
People only judge two platforms based on the initial investment not long-term.
@@HellRaiZOR13even long term, consoles are just cheaper than a PC. Invest the extra bucks in the disc version and you easily the same discounts for games as on PC.
Once you have to upgrade your pc shit's gonna get expensive. Cause what are the things that mostly run out of required performance ? The heavy hitters. CPU/GPU. So every few years you gonna spend the equivalent or more of a whole console to keep the same level. A console on the other had you gonna buy once and it will last for the whole console generator which is 7-8 years. Good luck keeping a CPU/GPU as long without heavy performance losses
now do a “can a PS5 be as powerful as a PC?” video 😂😂
Now can a gaming pc be as powerful as a quantum pc? 😂
now do a "Can a Ps5 be as powerful as a Kodiak Bear?"
@@emansfvera they probably will in the near future tbh
Actually thanks to how much optimization matters the PS5 can equal the performance in gaming of PCs that on paper destroy it and cost 4x+ times more money.
Look at star wars jedi survivor for example.
@@DKarkarov in your dreams lol. jedi survivor ran at 640p on performance mode, and 1440p upscaled to 4k on quality mode targeting 30fps, and still couldnt maintain 30 lmao. 4x equals $2000. that would get you a 4070ti and a zen4 7800x3D which is the best cpu money can buy. a ps5 would be nowhere in that ballpark unless you can show me a video of it doing native 4k at 60fps in this game, without upscaling at that 😂
The only thing you need to know is that games are optimized for consoles and will work fine. On the other hand, if you have low end PC every game could be a hit or miss on performance.
For me the issue isn’t as much cost as it is convenience. Knowing the game I buy will work on my hardware at optimal settings (that I don’t have to play with) has always been my reason for not PC gaming. Because every PC is different, this just can’t happen on computers.
For me the issue isn’t as much cost as it is freedom. Knowing that I'm not at the mercy of Big Console dictating every aspect of my gaming experience from top to bottom.
I outgrew consoles (though I still play my old ones, of course).
Most games actually have auto optimizations based on the gpu you have. There’s not much set up at all. Not anymore than you do on a console really.
@@Dirt_Serpent He's talking about the base-level coding of the engines and games.
Since the Great Consolization of 2008, all AAA games are designed and coded for console HW **. They don't run near as well as they would on PC if they were coded specifically for PC architecture. PCs use brute force to overcome the poor coding/optimization. This is something that has made me very unhappy, but even so there are _far, far_ more reasons to support the open PC paradigm than the proprietary console paradigm.
** With a _few_ exceptions, namely Crysis: Warhead (2008), The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (2008), Left 4 Dead (2008) Left 4 Dead 2 (2009), and Portal 2 (2011).
this argument has never worked, you don't even know what you're talking about - PCs support more games than all consoles combined and they get updates for much longer and more frequently too. It might cost a little bit more to get similar spec on a PC but the game will run at higher detail, higher fps and much smoother overall. And if there's ever an issue, you can actually try and sort it out yourself because you aren't locked out. Consoles games are not better optimized they are butchered with all sorts of technologies that artificially improve frame rates and in most cases just use lower quality textures and shadows since most console gamers don't know their games look trash. Most of those technologies end up coming to PC, too...
@@aldeedbro the same thing is happening with PCs… coff coff.. DLSS
Everyone views it as free performance boosts but are to dumb to realize that they are paying for AI cores in their gpu to support dlss.
And have you noticed that the 40 series cards are only more expensive because of the AI cores. There wasn’t really any hardware advantages.
All In all people are getting scammed for worse upgrades rather literally hardware upgrades.
Still a overkill pc can't beat simplicity that comes with consoles. Was a ps3 user and went the pc route during ps4/xbone era. So glad I'm back to Playstation
waiting for a ps5 super or something. On similar route
Rx6600
R5 3600
16GB 3200MHZ cl16
500GB ssd
B450M D3SH
Stock cooler
550w psu
Cheap case
Keyboard and mouse
Mic
Headset
Windows 11
All that for 680$ and makes other stuff like game development music production livestreaming video editing easier
Pay 180$ more. Unlock way more stuff
Ps5 cpu = ryzen 4700S
Equivalent pc cpu = ryzen 3100g
Ps5 gpu = Rx6500M
No equivalent pc vga. Use Rx6600 because of 8gb vram
You can't really compare the two. Yeah they both play games, but one of them is infinitely more useful than just playing games and that comes at a cost
Before we get into this video, I just want to say that I'm curious to see if you're going to take into account the design and optimization that has gone into the PS5 that gains up to an extra 20% to 23%more performance out of the hardware compared to an equivalent PC.
I don't think That motherboard supports PCIe 4.0 drives. You're losing performance by not taking full advantage of the full read and write speeds in that interface. You'd need a b550 mobo.
A full fat PCIe 3.0 PC build is better than the integrated shared system laptop hardware of the PS5 that is already a few generations old. 16gb shared system memory is not better than 16+ GB dedicated system memory with 8gb+ dedicated Vram plus unlimited cooling to keep it running full out not throttled back due to the inherent laptop hardware thermal constraints on PS5.
The Kraken I/O co-processor is so hard to emulate, that's the main headache when porting PS5 titles to PC.
Bro 1000$ dollars can hold our entire family for like 3 months 😅
With components getting back to somewhat reasonable prices, as long as you already have a monitor and basic accessories I'm betting you can get pretty close at that price point.
And while the PS5 is definitely a fairly priced piece of HW where you really take it up the ass in that ecosystem if paying for everything else. Expensive low value subsprictions, 70$ USD games etc.
@@gamble777888The PlayStation and Xbox stores have the same game pricing as steam now. In fact when games on the console stores are on sale they are generally on sale on steam for the same price.
You do get shafted on the ~60 a year for online though.
@@gamble777888it’s called go get high paying job stop crying 😅
@@gamble777888 Don't buy any subscriptions, wait for prices on games to drop before buying. (Same advice applies to PC, really.) Problem solved.
I mean... the PS5 doesnt come with a TV.... Basically a mouse and keyboard is the only thing that can reasonably be expected to be included in pricing. And maybe controller if you dont have one laying around.
So the series x is the last Xbox I’ll ever buy. Gonna get a pc next. Any suggestions? 4k 60 is what I’m shooting for.
Yeah, none of the components this guy recommended is a good starting point. Other than the nvme SSD anyway, everything else he says to get is a bad purchase and will not perform well at 4k.
At least not on modern games like the new horizon or cyberpunks upcoming dlc.
@@DKarkarov what can 3,000 get me?
@@TheBlayner well for 1700 or so on amazon right now you can get a amd 5800x 3d, 32 gb of gskill ddr4 4000 speed ram, a msi mpg x570 edge motherboard, a nvidia rtx 4070, a corsair 1000 watt fully modular gold certified psu, a lian li lancool 2 mesh case, a samsung 980 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive, and an artic cooling liquid freezer 2 240mm aio for the cpu.
That will beat a ps5, you get to save 1300 dollars, and you meet the system recommended spec for cyperpunk phantom liberty ultra 4k 60 fps with ray tracing off.
Of course some of that relies on prime day deals and USA prices. Also I didn't add a copy of windows, but that can be gotten cheap on some sites. Yes, legally.
My man said match the ps5 then gets a 4060 ti 🤦🏻♂️ doesn’t matter how bad the game it optimised that way way overkill , a 2070 would be more like it .
They had so much wrong with this build lol and AMD would have been a better cheaper option.
@Spartan_83 6700xt 😎
the ps5 GPU is actually an earlier version of the RX 6700, which is close to the RTX 2070 super, RTX 3060, and a bit less than the RTX 4060 non Ti or super version. Can you make a PC for less than PS5 value? sure; with second hand parts, i'm talking Xeon CPU with used graphics card; my recommendation anyways. Otherwise wait for maybe black well and rx 8000-9000 chips, but knowing the GPU market you might not see much improvement for the money.
I have been a gamer for 15 years, never owned a console, my current gaming PC I bought 3 years ago and it did cost me $5k, still strong, but I'm thinking about switching to PS5, firstly if I buy a second hand PS5 it would cost me $400 secondly PC power consumption is very high, thirdly yes it is easy to upgrade the hardware of the PC but if you want to upgrade anything like a decent RAM or GPU it would cost the price of a new console.
I think the worst thing for me in regards to PC is how they constantly change CPU sockets, so you are prevented from upgrading the CPU, or in other words forced to change motherboard every so often. I think it wouldn't hurt the PC industry to offer LTS motherboards or something like that.
$770 and you can't play on it because you didn't include a controller.
Which is fascinating, by the way, that the architecture itself, CPU and GPU, get cheaper every year, the price of a controller stays the same in general.
Ps5 need tv tho
@@lafelas7244 pc doesn't need a monitor though. The air can display our games
@@uchennaobi5985lmaooo
That’s the thing, when developing for a single piece of hardware that doesn’t change, you really don’t need to have a shit ton of power in a system.
Also, developers have pointed out how good it feels to develop games for it, thanks to the resources Sony provides.
Regardless the PS5 is very powerful though
@@aaron4757 not really though, like a 6700 xt which is 300 dollar’s EASILY beats both next gen consoles in terms of raw power.
But optimization of games and the resources Sony provides, make the games run like they are on a 6700xt if that makes sense
Many developers have also stated they prefer making games for Sony. They said when they make games for Microsoft they have to make it compatible with the S, the X, and pc simultaneously which can sometimes hinder the games optimal performance options and slow down production.
@@adamstilwell4209 yes.
@@phant0m_633doesn’t matter if you make a pc with the same specs or better than the ps5. Technically the ps5 is capable of out performing the best pc out in the market right now
Why? Because PCs are held back by previous generation hardware.
Nobody remembers this but both the series x and ps5 have revolutionary architecture that surpasses PCs.
What is this architecture? The architecture is the way every component connects to each other, that being: gpu, cpu, ssd, and ram.
Remember when mother boards didn’t affect fps? Well guess what, now they are affecting the entire generation of computers.
The positive side is that with pcie gen 5, motherboards are beginning to catch up to console architecture. But it currently won’t make a difference because games companies aren’t making games using the new architecture even for consoles.
Have you noticed that games haven’t graphically changed all that much and literally a SINGLE INDIE GAME DEV can make a game that looks 10 times better than a AAA game.
It’s because big companies are just making games to grab people money, they aren’t focused on make it good games like they used to.
one day I will invest in a gaming PC. but my friends that do game on PC are always irritated about the game things. Poor Ports, broken ports, visual caps even if the settings are on max, Online issues for competitive fighting games. games ruined due to online hacks. many more. I know there are so many other benefits but I prefer my Office PC for everything else. and have my console for gaming.
Yeah I used to build my own and just got tired of the issues like that...plus the troubleshooting. After a 12 hour shift of troubleshooting in IT, I don't want to do it when I sit down to have fun. 😊 I prefer console now.
Pc ports are terrible these days I have a PC running a 3090 but generally game on PS5 as multiplayer on PC is ridiculously broken with so many hackers current gen consoles are paradise in comparison to playing on PC.
I've been building pcs for 20 years and I promise out of the thousands of games there available ive only had those issues a few times. It's a drop in a bucket for comparison to the amount of games you can play that don't have those issues. Mainstream games sure because the console business is about consoles as it makes them the most money so they optimize them better.
@dayadam16 ah, so only experience the issues that guy above talked about with mainstream games, like the ones most people (see mainstream) actually want to play. 10-4.
@@mikesheber2205newer games perform worse on console than pc due to the aggressive upscaling being used. so jedi survivor for example has an internal resolution of 640p on performance mode. So if the game is performing badly on PC, it's likely much worse on console but those players are used to 30fps and low resolution so most wouln't even notice.
One thing you forgot about, especially when you quoted the price of the PS5, the optical drive aspect. In your current configuration you would have to quote the price of the digital PS5, not the disk. So for comparison reasons the cost would be $399 vs $770. Finding a 4K Blu-ray drive for the PC would be $100 or more.
Also why are you showing Gears of War for a PS comparison?
Did anyone else notice that you went with an ATX motherboard, but a Micro-ATX case? That motherboard won't fit in that case......
The problem people seem to forget about the PS5 SSD is that they use it for extra RAM. That's why PC ports of their games requirements are stupid crazy.
You can actually set windows to do this as well. Not as streamlined as PS5 does it. Bunch of digging to find the settings for it. But I've used it before. Don't really need it when running 64gb of ram anymore tho
@@paulieknewport1106 Albeit if a dev has used it properly, had yet to see.
@@theepicduck6922From a dev perspective ram is rarely optimized for. Memory optimization is mostly about structuring data, and the goal is to have all the relevant data in the CPU cache. When it is not in cache one just assumes it is somewhere fast-ish. But weather it is RAM or SSD is rarely relevant to a dev (The important thing is that it is NOT on the cache)
The PC requirements are stupid crazy due to bad optimization.
PC ports have high requirements because they're ports and the PC release was an afterthought. Don't talk about things you don't know a thing about 😂.
And ssd for ram isn't the magical infinite ram hack that Sony's marketing would have you believe. Fetching from ssd will always be far slower than fetching from ram for your cpu, and the extensibility of a pc makes this weird hack completely irrelevant.
Nice video, however... with the budget of under $600 I believe we can build much better Gaming PC than that $700 up in your video
Yeah some of the prices he stated he paid for this stuff is high
58$ less than it would cost to build a PC that equals a series X. This has been done to death.
One cool thing about running AMD CPU + GPU is the ability for the CPU to share VRAM with the GPU. This is done by enabling 'resize bar' in the BIOS. It can improve performance by 10% or more.
you can still do that with nvidia aswel madude
@@tristan-lp7uwhow
@@tristan-lp7uwNvidia's implementation isnt as solid as AMD's though
On pc there is no additional cost to play online multiplayer. On ps5 you can't play online multiplayer without ps plus unless it's a totally free to play game, and here in Canada the price for ps plus was just raised to $107 a year after tax. On ps5 all the games settings are limited to the game developers graphic settings, for example, apex legends and battlefield 2042 are limited to 60fps. Some games can reach 120fps but no higher, and the new support for vrr on ps5 has a lot of compatibility issues with monitors. There are many more reasons to buy a pc over a ps5, which I am realizing after owning a ps5. The target audience for ps5 is for people that just want plug and play convenience and aren't too tech savvy.
That's exactly what it is, that consoles are plug an play. It just works. That's why I always stayed on the console side of things. Back in January this year I finally bought my first PC for gaming ... In the months since I had way more problems with this PC than I had with consoles in the past like 10 years
Not mention best games are exclusive at least 2-3 years.
I mean yea like 10-15 games in a span of 7 years that launches either way on pc.
They all come to PC
The funny thing is I have most of the similar components in my computer except for the graphics card.
It's fine the 4060ti is way overkill if you wanted this ps5 build
@@superC1266 in the video he said that he used a 4060 (even though they showed the 4060ti render from Nvidia).
I would much rather pay 1000's and have a machine capable of running games at full spec in 4k at 150+fps than settle for a console that now struggles to play most modern games at 30fps. I own a ps5, but purely for exclusives, and playing FFXVI at 30fps was simply painful!
According to the steam charts that shows exactly what pc gamers are using, yeah you're an outlier lol
Thats why you do not buy a console for exclusives. Wait for them to be released on PC where you can run them at a reasonable frame rate.
@timothypattonjr.4270 I'm sorry but if someone wants to play a game day 1 and don't want to wait. That's exactly why you get every platform, I love gaming on PC but damn the waiting game has been crazy in recent years lol
@@1ajgtwm I just will not play a game that is at 30 FPS. It feels bad. I want great visuals but I would rather have slightly dated visuals and a bare minimum of 60 fps than to suffer with 30 FPS. I personally spend more money on my computer than my car so I can have a premium experience. If people refused to buy games that don't run at an acceptable frame rate they would stop making games run that slow.
@timothypattonjr.4270 again you can play the wait game while others will play day 1. Who cares enjoy gaming but pc gaming has became the wait for scraps platform lol Then we are not guaranteed the best ports anymore at launch. The point of waiting for specs is a waste of time now.
I like when you said it's bound to get cheaper regarding pc parts etc. No it won't, it only gets more expensive as the companies get more greedy.
A $300 used PC with a RX590 plays 1080p HDR at 380fps and PS5 plays 60fps with HDR. Question is whst are you compairing? I mean the PS5s 60fps with HDR can not be compaired to a card pushing 120fps HDR in 4k.
Got a second hand gaming setup of total 420 usd during 2019.. still the latest games run well,providing me an avg of 60fps on big titles..
@lonewolf_09 Exactly that. You buy the latest and greatest at first, and while it's a big upfront cost it becames cheaper down the line. But nowhere near as cheap as spending $500 and playing for 6-7 years straight.
@@reisshepThe PS5 will be stuck on 30fps with stutters and the PC can just be upgraded to the PS5 pro specs and beyond and continue to game at 60+fps always. Now with the PS5 it's just an ewaste plastic box.
@@leanlifter1 Your old PC components are also e-waste? And you change them more often? I have 3 GPUs under my bed just being e-waste because they're not up to par, and they're bought like a year or two apart each (780 Ti, 980 Ti, 1080 Ti). There was no way neither of those would last me through the entire generation with the exception of 1080 Ti, but it's not an RT capable card so I have no use for it. The point is that I paid well over $2k for my PC (tower only, without any monitors or peripherals) only to have it be outdated quickly. I played Hogwarts Legacy at 30fps on 1080p with DLSS turned on. I couldn't reach 60fps.
@@reisshep They can be reused. The consoles are just plastic ewaste products for people to lazy to take the time to learn how to properly configure a computer for the best quality and performance that consoles can never achieve because they are controlled obsolete and locked down proprietary ewaste from launch day. Heck you can even use K/M on consoles lol.
@@leanlifter1 By that logic I can also use my PS5 to play older disk based games when it becomes obsolete. Not everyone can afford a PC and not everyone wants to have a dedicated space in their home for a gaming PC.
No doubt consoles still represent better bang for your buck. But I'm still tempted to finally invest in a proper gaming rig again despite owning both ps5 and series x. It's just difficult for me to gauge at what price point do I need to hit to notice a significantly better gaming experience vs console. If I'm spending a few hundred more simply to match a ps5 experience that's using midrange parts, then surely I need to invest in a high end rig. For example so I can play starfield at 60fps at high/ultra high settings. I basically need something like a 4070ti minimum or 4080 don't I? That's easily a £1500 plus rig there. Probably worth doing for anyone who can splash that but that seems to be the reality if you want to game at noticeably better settings compared to console?
Yea….that’s the nature of the expensive pc beast. If you want to notice a difference graphically, then I’d say you’d need to spend at least 1500.00 4080 would do it, since it can handle raytracing well in some games at 1440p with high settings.
A pc similar to the ps5 would cost about $600, but getting an rx 7800xt or geforce equivalent (give and take) would be a big improvement, and for high fps, a 5800x3d would be a big step up for the cpu. The ps5 is like a ryzen 3700 and rx 6700, but with both underclocked, making it more like a ryzen 3600 and rx 6600xt. Upgrade those to a ryzen 5600x and an rx7800xt and you'll still be at $1000 or so. Really, the nice thing about the pc is you can use it for many other things, and when one part is outdated, you can upgrade just that one part and sell your old one. Or you can do what I do and just accumulate enough parts to build a spare pc lol. Buying the top end stuff is definitely super expensive, but maybe build something cheap for now, even if it's not as good as the ps5, and then see if you like it enough to invest more into it. Don't be afraid to put it together yourself. All the parts are made to go where they're supposed to without fail, built to long-established standards. The cpu only has one spot to go into, the gpu as well (use the top-most slot), same with an nvme, and power supply. Anyway, pc's are fun to tinker with, and easy to upgrade, so I recommend them. Lmk if you decide to do it and need a tutorial or some troubleshooting.
USD600? At this economy with sky high inflation? That's impossible now. And that equates to 2 iphone glass back replacements 😅
A Ryzen 3600, b550 with wifi, rx 6600xt, 1TB nvme, 16 GB of 3200cl16, 650W power supply, and a case. That's about $600 with all new parts, and at least as good as a PS5. @@MrQwertypoiuyty
The thing is almost everyone wants the latest, running at maximum settings. I am minimalistic and efficient, 1080p 60fps is more than enough.
Yes, but once you play on 4k 120 and then go back to 1080 60, you will see frames and pixels
5600x3d and Radeon GPU would be my choice. However, the console will always beat performance/dollar metric. To match the PS5 at 4K, the GPU would cost more than a new console LOL.
I got a 64GB RAM, 1000W PSU, with i5-12400 and 3080ti for 999 so it must be lower
Having to pay to play with people is the deal breaker for me I'll build a PC over getting a PS5 or Xbox any day
Yea pc is great but I have a ps5 for the exclusives and timed releases. Having both makes the Xbox unnecessary
I think we're forgetting a decent mouse and keyboard in order to play those games well... at least in the general point of view, which could add the cost around $80-200 depends on their personal preferences.
You can pay a lot less than that. But you must also remember that the mouse and KB will last through multiple systems, unlike console controllers.
cool video, and well done. I also think that going the pc route has advantages in the longer term. The ability to continually upgrade a pc alllows you to get maximum use/value out of your components not to mention residual value of functional replaced components. I think console is the "easy way to go" and understand the thinking but I think that the price/performance on pc's and pc components has been improving for years and it doesn't look that will change in the foreseeable future.
but wouldnt be the money you spend on the upgrades eventualy be as expensive as buying the by then new ps?
not really, for example i have a i7 3gen I am still using because I have added some ram I got for free and made at least 3 upgrades to the GPU since I bought it in 2012 I have no interest in going higher than 1080 and am able to use all software and games I need. So in the last 11 years spent less than 200 on upgrades and it is still going strong, at least for what I need it for
@@gilco2832
Consoles are meant to be easy. I can buy a game and know it will work on my console just fine. On PC it's a bit of a gamble how well it will run. I know how to work with PC hardware, I just don't want the hastle. I just want to sit down after work and jump into the game I want. I've never cared about optimal performance and insane graphics. That's who consoles are for.
Pc is the only logical choice for me. I need a fast pc for non gaming as well. Having the ability to game in free time is just the added bonus.
@@mrgalaxy396 Whatever helps ya sleep at night kid
Where is the windows? Where is the controller or the mouse and keyboard? The cables? The blue ray player?
Here is a more accurate PC parts equivalent:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz without the boost clocks enabled
8 GB of RAM (Memory is shared with the GPU on a PS5, so 8GB is fair on a PC)
The RDNA 2.0 equivalent of an RTX 2070 or RTX 2070 Super
1 TB NVMe SSD
Gotta love how the subscription fee to play online is completely ignored in the price comparison.
I will go for 6700 XT every single time
Better performance and 12GB is waaaay better than 8GB
Except PS5 GPU doesn't have 8GB, it has 15GB, because the machine doesn't really need RAM for anything else than the games on it. Think of it as a unified memory. PS5 is a games ONLY "pc", not general purpose.
Wtf was even the point in this video? You didn't even build anything, the price much higher than a PS5, you forgot to include the keyboard and windows and there was no picture of the build at the end.
“On the new AM4 architecture” New as in from 2016?
You need to add , blu ray disc for pc , a monitor , a desk , mouse pad , keyboard mouse and i room with window near the desk and a gaming chair
Why you guys feel like ps5 should alwys be compared to other things....... pc is pc and ps5 is ps5
"Can the Ps5 make a pizza better than Pizza Hut?"
Most people who do these comparisons feel the ps5 can only be used to game and is useless otherwise so they think of getting a pc but then they look at pc prices and become conflicted looking for how much they would gain by getting a pc. Atleast IMO.
@@Molaninn Besides gaming, what else can the Ps5 be used for?
@OfficialKeonKhelawan soooo you're saying I can get cheesy bread with it?
that's way too many words for "someone else paid for my console"
Don't forget to add in the yearly PSN cost for online access. Consoles generally have a 8-10 year lifespan so PSN which is now $80/yr you're adding in $640-$800 to the cost of that cheap console. Now you are in the $1,150-$1,300 pc range. You can build a pretty damn good pc for $1,300. Now factor in that with emulation that PC can play the games from near every console generation. I have games from 20 years ago on my steam account that I still play from time to time. While this is a semi accurate video it does not address the value per dollar advantage a PC has with the sheer amount of versatility a PC provides. I can use my xbox elite controller with my PC, or a PS5 controller, or I can use my VKB gladiator dual flight sticks for atmo flight and space sims that consoles could only dream about running.
And for the record, I have a PS4 and an Xbox series X neither of which have been turned on in well over a year and just collect dust now.
I never paid
true people forget that game consoles are so cheap compared to pc because of after sales services like psn, gamepass, extra controllers and games which you can purchase only through one particular party. most of the time consoles are sold at a very low profit margins because of these factors
Uhh you can buy disc based games from 50000 different stores.@@xfrankenstein6981
I dare you to buy a PC that costs $1300 that will last you 10 years. I bought mine for well over 2k a few years ago and I'm already struggling, and my upgrade that I need (a better GPU) costs almost $1300, go figure.
@petarrica3134 a few years? How many years and what card? I mean, I built my GFs PC for $1,500 a few years ago and it still works just fine with new games. Your anecdotal evidence means nothing without specifics ie. Specs and exactly how old it is. And why it needs upgraded. And why you feel you need a $1,300 gpu.
I think the hardware choices are less than optimal. If I truly wanted to compete with the PS5, I would be building a budget build. 2nd hand parts.
That would make this video pointless as used availability and prices can vary significantly. Plus, you’re not buying used hardware when purchasing a new console. So that alone is enough justification to rule out used parts for a video like this.
The thing is that ps5 is made JUST for gaming whereas the pcs core and gpu is also being used on windows or many other thing so it will be abit unfair for a all in rig vs a JUST for gaming console
Ryzen 5600x comes with the same cooler and can be got for the same price now. That Motherboard does not support the speeds you claim as it only a PCIe Gen3 M.2 not Gen 4. You could have got the Gigabyte B550m which has PCIe Gen4 M.2 for a lower price
Ps5 matches the power of my 3070 but with more ram. It's stronger than a 4060 and has more ram, which makes this comparison unfair
No
@@LudusAurea the ps5's gpu keeps getting stronger and stronger to these people everytime a new nvidia gpu comes out lol, back then it was a 2070super, then the 3000 came theb suddenly it matches the 3070, now that the 4000 series is here I've seen people saying it matches a 4060ti lol.
So with taxes india it cost my ps5 like 606 dollar and this pc is 770 😂😂 ok happy with my ps5
Lmao the PS5 was already outdated when it came out.
how so?
Calm down. Just have fun with ur lil box, like everyone else.
@@watchmehope6560we all been havin fun with yo girl's little box
@@Olkv3Dlmao wtf
@@jack-cp7um You want in?
Gotta wait yo turn tho. The line's mad long.
You need to add labour and shipping of various parts to your pricing!
Based on what I read online, on the Nvidia side, an RTX 2070 Super is as powerful as the GPU in the PS5. The limiting factor though is the 8GB VRAM. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Gpu on ps5 is rx6500