I’m waiting the next two days for my Go to arrive. Just sold two of my 12” combos so I’m hoping this is a great living room player. Thanks for sharing the comparison video. 12/5, got it in the mail today. So far it’s been a fun amp to play around with. The global eq is handy for quick adjustments if needed.
I like the Yamahas; the amp the most and then the monitors; the monitors and the Headrush seems to be hi-cut version of the Marshall bt speaker. Though the difference dont matter a bit in terms of regular at-home playing but only if you care about accurate sounding patches everywhere else.
Would it be able to use the headrush as a monitor while recording through an interface. I noticed that it doesn’t have a through connection. Would you need to connect the interface in to the AUX input with a Y cable?
I'm not sure I understand your question I'm afraid; but yes, you could plug anything that has a stereo out in to the Headrush Aux Input, and of course anything with a mono output in the the 1/4" input...
Thanks for this, very helpful! Did the Marshall have a lot of latency? It seems that most portable audio systems, even when connected through their aux inputs, have a slow dsp that makes playing through them really hard because of the latency.
I've read a bit about latency when using home-speakers with modellers before, and I've never really understood what people were talking about. Now that you mention the DSP being the reason, I guess that makes sense. I've tried using modellers with all sorts of different speakers (just for the fun of it, you know!) and honestly I can't say I've noticed any latency with the Marshall at all.
Great to know, because I loved the sound of the Marshall speaker. Being stereo is also a bonus for adding stereo dimension from the modeler. Thought a JBL partybox would be good for a portable, loudish stereo setup, but the latency was unusable, almost a 1/4 second through the aux input.
I am using the Headrush FRFR GO with my GX-10, and so far it is the best sound yet in all my modelling years. I am assuming that the 12 o'clock position of Bass and Treble is the flat response, since the guitar sounds the same from the phones out on the GX-10 to the Aux In on the GO. I cut the bass for a more even sound when I play my nylon string Flamenco guitar (with a graphic EQ just after the input) because the bass strings have more energy than the trebles.
Interesting, how do you find the GX10? I'm intrigued by it (but don't really need yet another modeller!) That's a good point about comparing the Bass/Treble 12 o'clock on the Go to the phones out on the GX-10. One thing I can do is post on the Headrush forum to ask if any Headrush staff can give us an official answer, I'll let you know how I get on...
@@BuleriaChk Also interesting - is there anything in particular that makes it stand out? Have to say I really don't like the way Boss make you pay extra for Bluetooth!
@@littlespaceman I think the overdrives (and the separation of od/dist/fuzz into separate categories - i.e. the UI) are excellent; as good as the OD-200 IMO. I haven't had time to check out the rest of it, but that alone is good enogh for me.
I’m undecided but as is the case with the Positive Grid Spark Live, I think if they really wanted to make these speakers stand out, they could have added TWS (True Wireless Stereo) so you could link a pair by Bluetooth for streaming music… even some basic/budget PA speakers have this ability
Thanks, got one after seeing this. It sounds very good! Just using it for the living room. Was hoping it would be a solution for using AmpliTube5 into an “amp” but it seems to only sound decent in headphones or stereo monitors. I’m using my old DigiTech multi effects processor and that sounds very good.
have you yet tried the phones jack with headphones on headrush frfr go? i've got mine today and it doesnt sound quite right with headphones. the volume drops distinctively and the sound get a little distorted and a huge mid scoop sound coming out of my headphones. the headphones are fine, i checked them. could you maybe take a moment to look how it is on yours? i
I haven't actually - I'll try when I can. However I don't see the need for a headphone jack on an FR cab; if I want to listen on headphones, I would plug them straight in to my modeller. After all I don't want any colouring at all by the FR (and really the point of an FR is that it DOESN'T colour your sound) 🧐
i thought the thr sounded great - i have a Blackstar id core v4 beam at home and wondered if i could put my Tonex into that - haven't got a mixer and not sure if would need another interface or DI Box
Purchased one yesterday. I'm kind of split on what I think of it. It's much quieter than I expected. Using it with a helix stomp and comparing to a mid range pair of studio monitors the cleans sound better to me on the headrush. The heavier tones nearly always sound better through the monitors. For the price it's nice though and the battery power is a bonus
I agree, I’m undecided how much I like them - overall I’d say they’re ‘ok’ I think. They sound could be better but could be worse. And the looks (which is an important part of the equation)? Well, I think they’re pretty ugly tbh, as unfortunately all of the Headrush gear is (who designs their stuff?? Some of it looks awful!) I’d much prefer them to have the input on the back, and also why is the top panel at the front? They’ve clearly gone for a guitar amp sort of look, but what top-mounted guitar amp has the controls at the front? And the handle is hideous too, completely out of proportion to the rest of the amp. Buuuut… they’re pretty cheap so I can probably live with all of the above…
Just been playing with the FRFR Go again, and I’m intrigued by the comments about volume; I’ve never felt they’re not loud enough, but I did notice that if you have the Bass and Treble pots all the way down, and rely on your modeller to do all the EQ then it does sound quiet: try turning both Bass and Treble to 12 o’clock or more and there’s a noticeable increase in volume
Yes, that's right. Most single FR speakers are going to output mono, that's not a limitation of the Headrush. You'll need to speakers to run stereo, just like any home hifi
Just thinking, you can also run a single FR Go in stereo by plugging in to the Aux jack, from either the headphone out of the Fractal or using a twin 1/4" or XLR to mini stereo...
@@littlespacemandoes headrush go translate good to FOH? I want something for home practice that translate good to FOH when i play live. What you think?
@@anotherone9219 I have no experience with FOH I'm afraid, I only really play small gigs where I'm using a PA or pair of FR cabs as FOH, but with IEMs for me
I actually haven't tried it with just a computer but have plugged about everything else in to it and it sounds great, so I'm sure it will sound good with a computer too
Am I crazy? I thought the Marshall sounded the best. I have to assume that the Yamahas represented the most accurate reproduction, though, and the Headrush is closest to that. How do you feel about how the Marshall does with actual full tracks/songs? If I wanted to use it just for playing MP3s?
I agree, I think the Marshall sounds best too, and although it's not designed for guitar use, I prefer it (and let's be honest, the look of it, and the Marshall logo go a LONG way to making it sound better! 😝) It also sounds great when streaming music. The only thing I'd say is it's not as loud as the Headrush, but to be fair I have 2 Headrush FRFR Go's and only one Marshall. I'm sure with another Marshall it would sound amazing and definitely loud enough for 'coffee shop' style gigs
Interesting… In order I like the Marshall best, then the HS3’s, then the Headrush and lastly the THR - when using the THR as a speaker that is, as an amp I think it sounds great. Bear in mind though that firstly all of these units are designed for different uses, so it’s not a ‘fair’ comparison perhaps as it’s not like I’m comparing 4 different pairs of studio monitors. That said, to my mind, if the FR Go is, you know, an FR speaker, then shouldn’t it sound the most like a pair of monitors? 🤔 The other thing of course is that this video is shot using the iPhone mic, so it’s not exactly the most hi-fidelity recording ever 😏
@@littlespaceman yes quite agree it should sound most like the monitors as they're also supposed to be flat....beyond this I'd just want them to sound at least similar to how the amp sim sounds when played through a PA or full size FRFR I suppose and feel amp like?
@@ThePlanarchist Well, I've played with it again this evening, on the sofa, using a Hotone Ampero Mini (with my own IR's) and actually found myself losing track of time, I was enjoying myself so much. And you can't really ask for more than that can you? So I'd say for the size/portability and price, does it sound and feel amp like? I'd say yes...👍🏻
For desktop applications, I would stick to studio monitors. As for FRFR in general, people need to learn to avoid them like the plague. Most are crap, like the headrush FRFR 8s and 12s. Those aren't actually transparent, they have way too much low end. Maybe the Laney FRFRs are good, I haven't tried them. But just get a PA system, it's "FRFR" without being marketed specifically at guitarists
I totally agree re the marketing; but if you're saying that a PA system is basically FRFR (and I agree with you) then telling people to avoid FRFR like the plague is also telling them to avoid PA systems; rather than fall foul of an anti-FR bias, because we object to the marketing, I try to look at it this way; it's not so much that a PA is a FR cab, but more (from a guitarist perspective) that a FR cab is also a PA. So I also put vocals etc through a mixer and use my FR cabs (Fender FR-10's) as my PA, if there is no other PA available. Some thoughts for you; 1) Regarding the Headrush FR 8s and 12s, I've heard similarly poor reports about the sound, in particular the low end. 2) I've owned a pair of Line 6 Powercab Plus 112s - great, and very clever (they have speaker emulation and can load IRs) BUT... 3)...I sold them the second I tried the Fender FR-10, which IMHO sounds the best of all of them. And it LOOKS like a real amp, which in my opinion goes a long way to creating that 'amp in the room' feeling which people talk about. BUT... 4) ...I've also read multiple reviews praising the Fender (and most prefer the 10 over the 12, and even from a form factor perspective I agree, I love the size and how light it is) however lots of reviews say they aren't actually a Flat Response cab at all. I don't know how do they work that out, because every PA system sounds different too, so is there really such a thing as a completely neutral reference response in a speaker? 5) For what it's worth I hear good things about the Laney FR, I hear really good things about the Red Sound FR cabs (although I've never seen one in the UK let alone heard one) AND... 6) ...I've also tried both the Line 6 Catalyst and the Boss Katana (or is that Katalyst and Catana?!) to see what the Power Amp in sounds like on those. Both of those brands use the Power Amp in as a major selling point of these amps, and I can tell you this - if you really want to hear what 'crap' sounds like, that's them right there!
agreed with headfrush FRFR having too much low end, i have the FRFR 12, when dialed in a sound that to me is usable on the headrush FRFR12, then play live with my modeler, resulting sound is way too much high end and lacking low end. Just started using the FRFR 12 as a PA speaker/monitor for bass drum and bass guitar, sounds killer and loud.
Interesting. I'm interested in the Headrush because it's very cheap compared to the Yamaha and it sounded very good. Apparently the Yamaha monitors were the flattest but you can't take those to the park. I mean playing something with some small multi-effects.
Do you mean ‘how will you power your multi effects unit at the park’? The answer is using a powerbank - there are lots of threads out there on using powerbanks to power modellers. I use a 25,000mah one to run my Quad Cortex (the biggest advantage is that it removes all unwanted noise due to the earthing issues with the crappy power supply and the crappy electrics in my home) and I can get about 5 1/2 hours out of it which is plenty long enough for a gig
Something like this… amzn.eu/d/jgybJlc And then you need a USB C to 9v or 12v power cable, like this… amzn.eu/d/iqGpkE0 And then lastly you may need a polarity reverser if your modeller takes a centre-negative power supply. There are quite a few on the market but the nearest I’ve found are ones like this… www.switchelectronics.co.uk/products/2-1mm-x-5-5mm-dc-polarity-changer-centre-positive-socket-to-centre-negative-plug
Ok, unfortunately I don't think the Headrush Prime would work for me, however I have gotten myself a M vave Tank g which has a lithium battery. @@littlespaceman So to go out and play from time to time with some friends outside, this combination of Headrush frfr go and the little Tank g would be perfect, which sounds good for $60.
Ok, I will, but that is only in mono of course, it doesn't allow me to run in stereo. I could also try tweaking the speaker tuning on the THR app I suppose
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I’m waiting the next two days for my Go to arrive. Just sold two of my 12” combos so I’m hoping this is a great living room player. Thanks for sharing the comparison video. 12/5, got it in the mail today. So far it’s been a fun amp to play around with. The global eq is handy for quick adjustments if needed.
Exactly the video i was looking for
I like the Yamahas; the amp the most and then the monitors; the monitors and the Headrush seems to be hi-cut version of the Marshall bt speaker. Though the difference dont matter a bit in terms of regular at-home playing but only if you care about accurate sounding patches everywhere else.
just sold my headrush frfr, too powerful for house use. Would I be able to plug my tonex pedal directly into Yamaha HS3?
Would it be able to use the headrush as a monitor while recording through an interface. I noticed that it doesn’t have a through connection. Would you need to connect the interface in to the AUX input with a Y cable?
I'm not sure I understand your question I'm afraid; but yes, you could plug anything that has a stereo out in to the Headrush Aux Input, and of course anything with a mono output in the the 1/4" input...
Thanks for this, very helpful! Did the Marshall have a lot of latency? It seems that most portable audio systems, even when connected through their aux inputs, have a slow dsp that makes playing through them really hard because of the latency.
I've read a bit about latency when using home-speakers with modellers before, and I've never really understood what people were talking about. Now that you mention the DSP being the reason, I guess that makes sense. I've tried using modellers with all sorts of different speakers (just for the fun of it, you know!) and honestly I can't say I've noticed any latency with the Marshall at all.
Great to know, because I loved the sound of the Marshall speaker. Being stereo is also a bonus for adding stereo dimension from the modeler. Thought a JBL partybox would be good for a portable, loudish stereo setup, but the latency was unusable, almost a 1/4 second through the aux input.
I am using the Headrush FRFR GO with my GX-10, and so far it is the best sound yet in all my modelling years.
I am assuming that the 12 o'clock position of Bass and Treble is the flat response, since the guitar sounds the same from the phones out on the GX-10 to the Aux In on the GO.
I cut the bass for a more even sound when I play my nylon string Flamenco guitar (with a graphic EQ just after the input) because the bass strings have more energy than the trebles.
Interesting, how do you find the GX10? I'm intrigued by it (but don't really need yet another modeller!)
That's a good point about comparing the Bass/Treble 12 o'clock on the Go to the phones out on the GX-10.
One thing I can do is post on the Headrush forum to ask if any Headrush staff can give us an official answer, I'll let you know how I get on...
@@littlespaceman I sold my GT1000Core to get it and am not looking back..:) I like it a lot!
@@BuleriaChk Also interesting - is there anything in particular that makes it stand out? Have to say I really don't like the way Boss make you pay extra for Bluetooth!
@@littlespaceman I think the overdrives (and the separation of od/dist/fuzz into separate categories - i.e. the UI) are excellent; as good as the OD-200 IMO. I haven't had time to check out the rest of it, but that alone is good enogh for me.
Surprisingly I liked the HeadRush a lot.
I’m undecided but as is the case with the Positive Grid Spark Live, I think if they really wanted to make these speakers stand out, they could have added TWS (True Wireless Stereo) so you could link a pair by Bluetooth for streaming music… even some basic/budget PA speakers have this ability
Yamaha HS3 for me. More crisp and clear.
Thanks, got one after seeing this. It sounds very good!
Just using it for the living room.
Was hoping it would be a solution for using AmpliTube5 into an “amp” but it seems to only sound decent in headphones or stereo monitors.
I’m using my old DigiTech multi effects processor and that sounds very good.
have you yet tried the phones jack with headphones on headrush frfr go? i've got mine today and it doesnt sound quite right with headphones.
the volume drops distinctively and the sound get a little distorted and a huge mid scoop sound coming out of my headphones.
the headphones are fine, i checked them. could you maybe take a moment to look how it is on yours? i
I haven't actually - I'll try when I can. However I don't see the need for a headphone jack on an FR cab; if I want to listen on headphones, I would plug them straight in to my modeller. After all I don't want any colouring at all by the FR (and really the point of an FR is that it DOESN'T colour your sound) 🧐
i thought the thr sounded great - i have a Blackstar id core v4 beam at home and wondered if i could put my Tonex into that - haven't got a mixer and not sure if would need another interface or DI Box
Yes, just plug the Tonex in to the MP3 input
@littlespaceman thanks
I think headrush with tonex one is killer
Purchased one yesterday. I'm kind of split on what I think of it. It's much quieter than I expected. Using it with a helix stomp and comparing to a mid range pair of studio monitors the cleans sound better to me on the headrush. The heavier tones nearly always sound better through the monitors. For the price it's nice though and the battery power is a bonus
I agree, I’m undecided how much I like them - overall I’d say they’re ‘ok’ I think.
They sound could be better but could be worse. And the looks (which is an important part of the equation)?
Well, I think they’re pretty ugly tbh, as unfortunately all of the Headrush gear is (who designs their stuff?? Some of it looks awful!)
I’d much prefer them to have the input on the back, and also why is the top panel at the front? They’ve clearly gone for a guitar amp sort of look, but what top-mounted guitar amp has the controls at the front?
And the handle is hideous too, completely out of proportion to the rest of the amp.
Buuuut… they’re pretty cheap so I can probably live with all of the above…
Agree about the battery though, that is a big selling point
Just been playing with the FRFR Go again, and I’m intrigued by the comments about volume; I’ve never felt they’re not loud enough, but I did notice that if you have the Bass and Treble pots all the way down, and rely on your modeller to do all the EQ then it does sound quiet: try turning both Bass and Treble to 12 o’clock or more and there’s a noticeable increase in volume
i want to buy an fm3 from fractal. how can i connect that to the headrush GO? FM3 got 2 XLR out... and headrush only 1 jack? mono ?
Yes, that's right. Most single FR speakers are going to output mono, that's not a limitation of the Headrush. You'll need to speakers to run stereo, just like any home hifi
Just thinking, you can also run a single FR Go in stereo by plugging in to the Aux jack, from either the headphone out of the Fractal or using a twin 1/4" or XLR to mini stereo...
@@littlespacemandoes headrush go translate good to FOH? I want something for home practice that translate good to FOH when i play live. What you think?
@@anotherone9219 I have no experience with FOH I'm afraid, I only really play small gigs where I'm using a PA or pair of FR cabs as FOH, but with IEMs for me
If I had to choose one, I'd be the Headrush. Seems more balanced, not tinny or shrill sounding.
Does it sound good when use as computer speaker only?
I actually haven't tried it with just a computer but have plugged about everything else in to it and it sounds great, so I'm sure it will sound good with a computer too
@littlespaceman Thank bro
Thanks for that. Does anyone have any experience with the Joyo BSK 40/80 Watt mobile units?
Am I crazy? I thought the Marshall sounded the best. I have to assume that the Yamahas represented the most accurate reproduction, though, and the Headrush is closest to that. How do you feel about how the Marshall does with actual full tracks/songs? If I wanted to use it just for playing MP3s?
I agree, I think the Marshall sounds best too, and although it's not designed for guitar use, I prefer it (and let's be honest, the look of it, and the Marshall logo go a LONG way to making it sound better! 😝)
It also sounds great when streaming music. The only thing I'd say is it's not as loud as the Headrush, but to be fair I have 2 Headrush FRFR Go's and only one Marshall. I'm sure with another Marshall it would sound amazing and definitely loud enough for 'coffee shop' style gigs
No, not crazy. You are allowed your own opinion on what tone you like - If Marshall sounds good to you, then that's the one 🙂
To me the Headrush sounded closest to the HS3 studio monitors......not sure if that's the aim or not.
Interesting…
In order I like the Marshall best, then the HS3’s, then the Headrush and lastly the THR - when using the THR as a speaker that is, as an amp I think it sounds great.
Bear in mind though that firstly all of these units are designed for different uses, so it’s not a ‘fair’ comparison perhaps as it’s not like I’m comparing 4 different pairs of studio monitors.
That said, to my mind, if the FR Go is, you know, an FR speaker, then shouldn’t it sound the most like a pair of monitors? 🤔
The other thing of course is that this video is shot using the iPhone mic, so it’s not exactly the most hi-fidelity recording ever 😏
@@littlespaceman yes quite agree it should sound most like the monitors as they're also supposed to be flat....beyond this I'd just want them to sound at least similar to how the amp sim sounds when played through a PA or full size FRFR I suppose and feel amp like?
@@ThePlanarchist Well, I've played with it again this evening, on the sofa, using a Hotone Ampero Mini (with my own IR's) and actually found myself losing track of time, I was enjoying myself so much. And you can't really ask for more than that can you? So I'd say for the size/portability and price, does it sound and feel amp like? I'd say yes...👍🏻
@@littlespaceman yay, as soon as you get to playing away for fun point you know it's a winner. Thanks and keep on enjoying!
For desktop applications, I would stick to studio monitors. As for FRFR in general, people need to learn to avoid them like the plague. Most are crap, like the headrush FRFR 8s and 12s. Those aren't actually transparent, they have way too much low end. Maybe the Laney FRFRs are good, I haven't tried them. But just get a PA system, it's "FRFR" without being marketed specifically at guitarists
I totally agree re the marketing; but if you're saying that a PA system is basically FRFR (and I agree with you) then telling people to avoid FRFR like the plague is also telling them to avoid PA systems; rather than fall foul of an anti-FR bias, because we object to the marketing, I try to look at it this way; it's not so much that a PA is a FR cab, but more (from a guitarist perspective) that a FR cab is also a PA. So I also put vocals etc through a mixer and use my FR cabs (Fender FR-10's) as my PA, if there is no other PA available.
Some thoughts for you;
1) Regarding the Headrush FR 8s and 12s, I've heard similarly poor reports about the sound, in particular the low end.
2) I've owned a pair of Line 6 Powercab Plus 112s - great, and very clever (they have speaker emulation and can load IRs) BUT...
3)...I sold them the second I tried the Fender FR-10, which IMHO sounds the best of all of them. And it LOOKS like a real amp, which in my opinion goes a long way to creating that 'amp in the room' feeling which people talk about. BUT...
4) ...I've also read multiple reviews praising the Fender (and most prefer the 10 over the 12, and even from a form factor perspective I agree, I love the size and how light it is) however lots of reviews say they aren't actually a Flat Response cab at all.
I don't know how do they work that out, because every PA system sounds different too, so is there really such a thing as a completely neutral reference response in a speaker?
5) For what it's worth I hear good things about the Laney FR, I hear really good things about the Red Sound FR cabs (although I've never seen one in the UK let alone heard one) AND...
6) ...I've also tried both the Line 6 Catalyst and the Boss Katana (or is that Katalyst and Catana?!) to see what the Power Amp in sounds like on those. Both of those brands use the Power Amp in as a major selling point of these amps, and I can tell you this - if you really want to hear what 'crap' sounds like, that's them right there!
agreed with headfrush FRFR having too much low end, i have the FRFR 12, when dialed in a sound that to me is usable on the headrush FRFR12, then play live with my modeler, resulting sound is way too much high end and lacking low end. Just started using the FRFR 12 as a PA speaker/monitor for bass drum and bass guitar, sounds killer and loud.
The monitors sound best with headrush second and Yamaha third and at last place the Marshall.
Interesting. I'm interested in the Headrush because it's very cheap compared to the Yamaha and it sounded very good. Apparently the Yamaha monitors were the flattest but you can't take those to the park. I mean playing something with some small multi-effects.
How will you power your multi at the park 😊
@@reynirkarl With a Jackery Explorer 1500 of course.
Do you mean ‘how will you power your multi effects unit at the park’?
The answer is using a powerbank - there are lots of threads out there on using powerbanks to power modellers.
I use a 25,000mah one to run my Quad Cortex (the biggest advantage is that it removes all unwanted noise due to the earthing issues with the crappy power supply and the crappy electrics in my home) and I can get about 5 1/2 hours out of it which is plenty long enough for a gig
Something like this…
amzn.eu/d/jgybJlc
And then you need a USB C to 9v or 12v power cable, like this…
amzn.eu/d/iqGpkE0
And then lastly you may need a polarity reverser if your modeller takes a centre-negative power supply. There are quite a few on the market but the nearest I’ve found are ones like this…
www.switchelectronics.co.uk/products/2-1mm-x-5-5mm-dc-polarity-changer-centre-positive-socket-to-centre-negative-plug
Ok, unfortunately I don't think the Headrush Prime would work for me, however I have gotten myself a M vave Tank g which has a lithium battery. @@littlespaceman
So to go out and play from time to time with some friends outside, this combination of Headrush frfr go and the little Tank g would be perfect, which sounds good for $60.
Try the Yamaha on flat mode (classic).
Ok, I will, but that is only in mono of course, it doesn't allow me to run in stereo. I could also try tweaking the speaker tuning on the THR app I suppose
@littlespaceman try the flat mode with everything at noon and open speaker tuning then EQ as per requirement. It sounds exceptionally good.
@@tzmathew Will do 👍🏻
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