Honda Civic vs Hyundai i30 vs SEAT Leon 2018 review - which is best| Head2Head
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Family hatchbacks: buyers are spoiled for choice in this class - even when you look away at the obvious candidates. If you don’t fancy a Golf, a Focus or an Astra, the SEAT Leon, Honda Civic and Hyundai i30 are all impressive rivals. But which is best? I find out be taking a look at each car’s design and finding out which is the most spacious before heading out on the road for a drive.
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So when the i30 has a big ugly screen nailed to the dash that's ugly but when Audi do the same it's a masterpiece of innovative design.
Seán O'Nilbud It’s because the screen on the Audi has nearly no bezels, and it has no buttons on the screens itself. The i30 has fat bezels for the buttons, which means he said it will age badly, not ugly.
audi's are retractable though. That's why it's clever.
Audi shite over priced
He has criticised Audi for it too
@@pierrot148 but there is no point of retracting something that you need whenever you're in the car, it's just a gimmick
love your channel reasons
1) honest and sensible comments
2) all things covered in 9-11 minutes i mean everything
3) new videos almost everyday
Yeah Matt can cover 3 cars fully in 10 minutes, while other channels take 20+ minutes to cover same stuff on one car.
can anyone tell me is a honda civic a good car to get or do you have alot of problems with them thank you
Worst thing you can do is watch this without being able to afford them :"(
Fred Pinto 😆 good point
You can now😂
The i30 is a brilliant car. I've had it as a hire car and really liked it. This coming from someone who owned a Golf and an A3.
If it's a diesel version i30 it is a brilliant car. This coming from someone who owned a Kia ceed, Civic and an Oktavia
As a loyal subscriber, I demand the FLOATING TEXT to be in all of the channel's videos Mat, it makes memorizing and comparing easier ❤️
The Civic seems much larger than the other two.
Well the Civic is 4518 mm long while Leon and i30 is 4282 mm and 4340 mm
넘잼 that’s what she said 😏
^ haha
Because it is. It was meant to replace EU Accord as well. Unfortunately for Honda, size isn't everything.
Also, it's butt ugly.
My Leon FR 2.0tdi 150 Manual is in that colour (well the prefacelift blue). Absolutely love this car; best handling and looking car on the market for the price. Never get tired of driving it.
Im glad theres more variation of manufacturers on the channel now :)
Amazing Review Love You Guys!
Got 3 civics, decent cars. Bought new Leon FR last year in Feb. Love it! Don't mind the firm suspension and ascetic interior.
I would pick the Seat
I have Leon FR fom 2008,2 liter diesel and 170hp....very good engine.Maximum 8liter on 100km..
I would prefer the seat too, especially after a long day on my legs.
hahaha its a joke!!??
sharkskingaming ya same
Yea mee 2
Great review Mat
All those fake vents on the civic look terrible
yes those look ugly
It tries too hard, and looks like a bitch to keep clean with all those crevices
yes, we need huge fake airvents at the back of a front engined 1.0L Civic /smh
[TECHNOLOGIC] I think they *look* cool but the fact that they're fake is what makes it extremely cringy
if the paint is black those fake vents are not as visible
also there is a better looking Civic sedan with smaller vents
Had the Leon FR great car. Now its a Leon Experience Lux. Bigger boot bigger engine. Extra bells an whistles. The only thing I miss is the driving modes found on the FR.
Thankyou. I know these reviews are probably boring to present and produce, but they are the most useful. Buyers of an Audi R8 or a Mercedes E class or whatever aren't going to look at a comparison or review to decide - those people have already made up their minds based on what plastic badge is on the bonnet.
I changed from Leon to Civic in 2018. I loved my Leon but the Civic is something else. It has a totally different feel and it is a cracking drive. I got it in black so all the weird grills disappear. The touchscreen is no problem, as responsive as you need it to be and the sat nav is far better than the leon (unless it changed after 2015). All in all I'm well chuffed, I might go for a type R next time!
Of course you did
i have the exact same car as the leon on the video. i love it. only gripe is cup holders
6:30 "The rear doors don't open very wide"
That's a surprising oversight, given that the old Civic's rear doors opened to a near 90 degree angle.
I had similar cars to choose. Took the middle ground which is seat. (2019 FR) I did get the ski hatch, the wierdness of the passenger seat is still there (if you want people behind to have room, you wont be able to open the glovebox, they did add a box to store things below the seat tho). The sport suspension you can feel a lot. Sometimes it is annoying. The consuption is very very good. 6 speed manual with 150hp petrol gives me around 5.5 l/100km. It cost me around 23.000 euros due to some added equipment. However, it is a perfect car for young people that enjoy driving and things like that
Can you plan a drag race (standing + rolling start) with the Hyundai i30 N Performance vs Peugeot 308 GTI vs Golf GTI Performance vs Ford Focus ST ? That would be brilliant
SkizomanX
Maybe a non-Performance i30 is more closely matched to these cars (247hp vs the performance making 272hp).
Or maybe a clubsport Gti would compete better with these cars as they stand.
I just feel like a Gti PP making 245hp is a little underpowered, but then again, VW does love to underrate their numbers.
No, because don't forget that the i30 N is the heaviest, and on paper those 4 are quite close.
The GTI clubsport is not sold anymore (but yes that would be intersting too).
Like you said, VW underrate their numbers.
Anyway, I hope that Carwow will do that ^^ !
drag races are dumb, lap times tell much more about a car
in the german press the 308 gti just beat the Golf GTI Performance (again) and the i30N
308 gti = most underrated car
A lot of people are interested about pure performance, and since Carwow doesn't do laptimes... so there is nothing stupid about it since straightline speed is also a factor to get better laptimes.
Those cars are not only made for racetracks...in fact those are more of dailydrivers than track cars.
test data from autobild sportscars (german press) 1/18:
Hyunndai: quartermile: 14,22 s, 0-200 kph: 22,4 s, 100-0 kph 33,8 m laptime with base street tires 1:42:68
Peugeot: quartermile: 14,30 s, 0-200 kph: 22,0 s, 100-0 kph 33,1 m laptime with base street tires 1:41:14
VW: quartermile: 14,60 s, 0-200 kph: 22,8 s, 100-0 kph 34,8 m laptime with base street tires 1:43:66
Hi Mat, I am considering the same Leon with the automatic, but extremely nervous about the reliability of the DSG7, would you you recommend this gearbox in terms of reliability?
I've had drivers lessons in the i30, it drives really nice imo
I didn't like the Civic before, but these 2018/2019 models have won me over for both exterior and interior. It's gorgeous! I'd have it in the 1.5L turbo though.
would love to see the same of these 3 but in their i30 N, Type-R, Cupra 300/Cupra R flavors
Excelent reviws!!
Like the floating text, but you should out also the engines and hp in there
Mat you do great reviews do one with the civic type r the i30n and the leon cupra r
What about the Mazda 3? What about the Mazda 2... never seem to mention these cars. They're great!
I got a civic sport 1.5 turbo and I love it can’t imagine owning the other two. So comfy to drive yet it has so much grip. The CVT gearbox makes it so smooth without sacrificing speed either.
Yea maaan
Hondas gearboxes are amazing.
@Stevie between 36 and 39mpg on average. I’ve seen it as high as 41 on long trips.
Finally! A correct outcome from a comparison review. VAG won't be happy but it's about time people looked beyond their so called reputation. Honda looks class all rounder (apart from rear!)
I’m 17 I’ve just purchased my 2018 seat leon fr technology in black
Of course you will feel the bumps more in the Leon fr. It's the fr!! It's focused more on the sport side of things
Not if you buy the 1.8 or above no torsion beam
Good video!
Now do Type R vs Cupra vs N...
Civic, by far the best car in compact segment!
Could please make a review for the Peugeot 208? Thank you!
This would be cool if you did these cars with their preference models
I don’t agree RE: the i30’s styling. Here in Aus you can get a model called the SR with a 200hp 1.6-litre turbo petrol and it has 18-inch alloys, a rear diffuser and the dial pipes and it looks much nicer and more unique than the Euro spec model used here.
To be honest I'd get the Civic. My parents have always had Hondas and they're hard to kill. My first car was a 2010 CR-V and it still runs great. I actually like the look of the Seat though, agressive, and I assume the Hyundai is a pretty good car. I also like the comparisons between cars like these, not over the top but still quality. All in all, you guys have one of the best car channels on UA-cam! Keep it up guys
I'd go for the Seat, whilst it follows the german recipe of literally EVERYTHING that's nice being an added option, it is the nicest and the most sleek car
I dont think it will age well. It will look outdated in a few years. Id get a Polo over the Leon
True, i think the same model has been out for 5+ years (with facelift) so it'd be something worth considering.
Sleek = boring
Sleek = refined and timeless and class, tacky and overdone ages bad and looks cheap, ecxample, 8th gen Civic hatch and Hyundai Veloster and no doubt this civic too.
And I wacth Ur videos every day
I really really want to see a comparison between a VW Golf, Audi A3 and Seat Leon. What are the differences between those 3 variants of the same car?
in the Civic, the air vent frame should match the line coming from bottom left
Seat leon FR for me nicer on the outside, better quicker tech on inside and love the sporty ride.
Surprisingly the FR does 0-100km/h in 8s, making it as quick as my 2013 Toyota Auris 1.8 Hybrid (it too does it in 8s flat). That is totally unexpected. I spec'd the Leon FR similarly to my Toyota Auris and the FR will cost me 36k Euro....So it's as fast as a damn Hybrid EV in a straight line, not suited for long trips, only performs well in corners...I'm not so sure about it. Also the FR has totally zero road presence. I got my Auris 1.8 in Pearlwhite (offset white, looks like frosted ice during winter, sparkles during summer), with 19" rims, blacked out roof, blacked out windows, chrome package, the Auris looks totally hardcore. I tried to get a hardcore looking FR, but it just can't happen, it will always look like a cheap car that can't even outrun an Hybrid EV car...for the price, a very bad choice.
Clorex Bleach i have a brand new seat leon fr 17 plate and love it brilliant car everything i need for my little family. Power when needed and i think its a really nice ride and i love how it looks. Top car for me obviously everyone has different opinions and views but i love seats had an ibiza before and loved that too. Cupra next too haha
Own a 2014 leon and overall it's good to live with. The ride is firm around town and a bit bouncy on some badly surfaced B roads but superb on motorways and dual carriageway where you hardly feel bumps at all. The 1.4 turbo is nice. Good for overtaking yet fuel economy varies between 40 and 50. The interior is well made but needs more flair. Lacks wow factor. Overall I like it. But the civic does look interesting and a softer ride would be tempting.
Can do three hour journeys in my leon and get out with no aches. Can't say that about any of my previous cars.
@Clorex Bleach
Stock Auris hybrid doesn't go below 10 seconds.
And the FAMILY hatch winner is the new Skoda Octavia Hatch in SE Technology spec, with the 1.0 TSI motor, a 6 speed manual and maybe a couple of small extras, for just about 20k gbp.
lmao what delusion
I really need a review of the Hyundai i30N 250 HP version
I really like the new Civic design, however I can see why some don't and think it's 'over-designed' so to speak. But you know you're getting a very reliable and performing car from Honda.
CyclingDaz I like the new one, it looks the best since the 90s, but still, its still looks like a 15-year-old with a Halford's club card designed it.
Says more about me and my age I think. at my age, I just couldn't own it. Though out of theses, id gets an Octavia I think it's a little nicer in vrs trim over the Leon fr trim. Admittedly the vrs is a few grand more, but so would be the trim of all the cars featured. I'd get the 184 diesel in the Fr trim in estate form. which is cheaper by about 1k over the diesel vrs.
Same car, different frock. So it would come down to looks. Also, the seat drives a little better than the Octavia, it's not only sportier it's less harsh. seat has done a good job in the Leon fr. Though I've only driven the 184 Leon fr st back to back with the 180 Octavia vrs estate.
I went in to test drive the petrol vrs, 230 iirc, but also took out the diesel. And as seat was nextdoor I took out the sister car the leon st fr diesel.
So my decision is two fold, petrol over diesel.1.is the extra grunt ,and less noise worth the mpg hit , about an average 27mpg vs 38mph in the deisel .
If the answer is no, the the 2nd question then is do I then save the 1k plus and get the Leon. Its just as good , if better in some ways , except looks imo.
I've written far too much . if you got here, hello, all the best and happy new year .
I can fully agree with both of you and I'd consider myself young at 25. I'd rather get a Mazda 3, especiallythe upcoming one if it's true to the concept.
CyclingDaz Indeed, if you can live with the design it is a good car.
@@KaneTheMessiah I have talked to a Mazda salesman and he told me that the new 3 will indeed look very similar to the Kai Concept. Interior will not have that widescreen infotainment like in the pictures but it wil be 8.8 inches. If so, i'll probably order it next year.
We just got this 10th gen Civic and the car is AMAZING, couldn't be happier with the purchase. We switched from Renault Megane
Can you please adjust the volume on voice over/non-voice over so that they match better? I keep jumping from around 20% volume all the way up to 80-ish%..
i know this is an old video now, but looking at getting a mk10 soon so been rewatching. 1 think i never understand is the headroom comment for the civic. when you back your head on the roof, your leaning back over the headrest .. try actually using the headrest. if you extent the headrest into the correct position, like you would on a front seat, then you'd be resting against it whilst in the more upright position where your heads isn't hitting the roof
After i got the civic1.5l last 3 monthes i think it's some fantastic car
Any problems whit car?How many km?tnx
The new Honda graphics for the 2018 models here in Canada (and I'm assuming the US) are actually the best I would say. It honestly feels like your using a fast android tablet as apposed to a high latency infotainment screen, though I'll agree the older systems are meh.
I was hoping for a review of the civic type r vs i30 n vs leon cupra
I would go for the Cupra. Same value for money than the Hyundai if not more. More power, and is lighter.
albertrll that "Hot hatch soul" is a very bold statement. It's the first try from Hyundai in this car class. And a serious one indeed, it does look good overall. But it has to demonstrate a lot of things still. The Cupra is on it's third generation now. It was a record car in the nurburgring. And released all of the tech that the Hyundai has now. DCC chassis, electronic lsd, Drive modes.... it has 300hp and near 100kg less than the Hyundai. Given that the Hyundai is just being released, I still prefer the Cupra. Some time later on, we'll see how good the Hyundai really is. I hope it will not dissapoint, more competition is always good in this class.
albertrll are you from Spain? Me too haha. The Cupra is not that expensive in reality. The brand's configurator gives an higher price than the one you can get at the dealers. Talking about the performance pack, all the Hyundai features are standard in the Leon without that pack. The Leon's performance pack adds Big brembo brakes and Michelin cup tyres. That's another plus. I did a short test drive in a Cupra 280 dsg without pp, and the car was VERY good. But to be honest, I prefer manual gearbox over faster times. I hope I can do a test drive in the i30N, so I can actually have a real opinion about It. My current car is a Focus st mk2 with mods.
albertrll great cars indeed both of them. I'm from Euskadi. Vamos, que soy de Euskadi. Jaja.
albertrll muy cierto. Y que siga habiendo máquinas así, que ahora con lo eléctrico parece que tienen los días contados. Un saludo y felices fiestas. ;)
Wish someone would do a decent review video of the 1.4 i30 N-Line.
10:08 what happened with the gap between the hood and the wheel arc? Is that camera effect or the hood is flimsy?
Looks are personal taste and I can say I love the design of the Honda.
Reliability is what makes me choose it among the other two.
Hyundai and Kia seem to be the most reliable cars in Germany according to a recent study.
@@slick1908 actually you are right. At the time I wrote this comment I hadn't done any research.
The Honda suffers from oil dilution. Japanese cars in general are going down. Some with the CVTs, other with engines.
Kia and Hyundai are doing really good and I even have an eye on the Kia Sportage AWD.
I wish they sold Seat here in the states. I prefer their styling over reg VWs
Get one from Mexico
how should he get it over the wall...hahaha sorry had to take that
The player of us The same way their people should come ---- LEGALLY!
it was a joke but ok...
The player of us I know, and it was funny. For years people "imported" old style Beetles gray market from Mexico, Brazil, and Nigeria to the U.S.
I'm sorry but why is the Honda considered a " compact hatchback"??
That car is longer than a 2014 Mercedes C class! You can absolutely not compare it to a Leon.
The Leon just sucks as a daily driver car. With the Leon, expect a back surgery the next year...you're going to need it...The Civic, even though it is larger, the price is not that much higher.
Clorex Bleach Really? I'll let you know when it's time for my surgery. I think you'll be waiting a life time though
But the 2014 C-Class (W204) is 4582mm long whereas the 10th generation Civic Hatchback is 4519mm long...
More than a C class?? Damn is it really that long??
All cars are growing. Look at the Clio! Though an extreme example, the trend is there, look at all cars, Fiesta, even the current ka is bigger than the first fiesta. It's, not just ford either. Look at the first civic, which looks amazing looking back. You could probably park the original civic im the new one's boot.
I once owned a rover 420sli, at the time a quite big car, my current car a GTC, (a 2 door Astra) i noticed in the supermarket is as long and wider than my old rover. Decent car that was, it had the Honda engine
I'd like to see the new Mazda 3 and Subaru Impreza hatch (2018) -- compare with those 3 cars
In this comparison I miss Mazda 3. Any chance to have that one reviewed?
Hello @Carwow
Is it possible to review Honda Accord 1.5 T or the sport version 2.0 T
Appreciate your consideration
Hi, why dont you try out 1.5t on civic? It would be great if you could review it.
I have an Honda civic sport plus 2018 and i'm very proud of it. I recommend it 100% (blue color is the best!)
Optimus Prime Disagree. Silver grey is better.
My dream car the same colour I want I'm saving now
Brad Bright Buy used and save £5k
@@kronossonork6994 I might do that get a year old one, I like it in red too it's perfect
Brad Bright Price takes priority over the colour. Just saying although I prefer charcoal grey myself.
Please do a mazda 3 review
Completely agree with the seat leon FR sporty suspension. As a 1 year owner of a 66 plate, one thing i hate about my car is the comfortability. There is no "comfort mode" so you are stuck with a harsh suspension throughout your experience with the car. You will end up hating the car if like me you do alot of local/ city centre driving. Next car is gonna be either a golf or a class.
Aqi Khaliq Make sure the tyre pressure is set to 30 and no higher. Makes a massive difference with the leons ride.
At 32psi the ride on leon Fr is awful. At 30psi it is at least twice as comfortable.
Should bought the DCC suspension. It makes a difference.
pokest225 is that the adaptable suspension that gives you the option of selecting comfort mode?
Aqi Khaliq yes. I've been in a fr with the standard suspension, and in a Cupra with DCC suspension. The Cupra was more confortable than the fr.
Louie Spence Matt more like Frank Spencer good review though always entertaining and to the point as for the cars depends on your budget i prefer the seat the civic is too brash for me prefer the clean lines of the seat and the engine is superb.
Sir make a video on gls class Mercedes
What do you think about the 2 litre seat Leon diesel engine?
I think the Leon FR in its estate form looks the best. If you get the 184bhp diesel, you're getting a cheaper diesel vrs.
Edit Back ten months later, next month I'll be taking delivery of the ST FR 2l tsi 190 👍.
I still don't like the looks of the model in the video trh 3 door SC and 5 door ST are both better looking to me.
I wanted an Octavia vrs estate, but I just couldn't get use to the new front lights the Octavia has, so went with the ST FR 190.
So you are sure for the european vw iwned brands like seat or skoda not asians ??
Please make comparison between hot versions of these cars
7:01 not a fan of that load cover design. It’s really thin and has a bit of a gap round it so you can easily hear everything moving/rattling in the boot
Make a video of the new BMW X3 2018
5008 vs Kodiaq vs Anything please!
I have never understood why it is so important that trunk shelf has to fit in the boot... either have it on or take it of
You’re ageing fine Mat.
how much road and wind noise does the civic project into the cabin?
Seat and hyundai are too common. You see these cars everywhere, boring.
Civic is more unique, different and very practical. Ugly plastic trims on rear but i can live with that. You wont see them when you drive LOL
Seat sells like 500 cars in my country per year, same for Skoda.. while in europe Seat and Skodas are fucking everywhere so here is a plus.
Well, except when someone says "nice chinese car" or "it looks pretty luxury for a chinese car" - Skoda Superb: i am a joke to you?
You should test civic with 1.5T, other 2 cars have 4 cylinder turbo, Apple vs Apple.
Honda all the way 💗💗💗💗
no doubt
You'll need the warranty with the Hyundai! My brand new one was in the garage 14 times in 4 months...... Got shot of it quickly
Does the leon not come with the arm rest and ski hatch in the UK? As for the harsh ride, go for the Excellence trim level, more forgiving suspension and slightly better equiment than te FR.As for the i30, it drives like a pudding, and it really doesn't like concrete Motorways - starts swirving over those section lines. Really poor suspension design.
Do the new golf head to head pls
How about doing a Kodiaq vs Tiguan vs Ateca
Spare wheel would be very important but Honda missed that!
So... where's the Doug score on these cars at?
Tale a look at Seat Leon Estate ST. It has most the missing features in this review.
summer time in the UK?
lisajason111 yeh was thinking that! Its been cold as shit for a while now so I’m wondering when this video was uploaded..probably a old tape that got lost so someone decided to upload it
Really? I thought Brits only knew the summer thanks to Spanish beaches
It's a shame that the infotainment system on the Honda is not up to par with the rest. If you use it daily I suppose it can become a nuisance. I presume they update the software every now and then? Perhaps it's better now?
The civic is a bit expensive,but all cars are good tbh.I really like the extrerior design of the leon.
Video was produced in August. I wonder why it was uploaded so late?
How long will the one liter Honda last. With all that weight and a turbo slapt on it.
Why didn’t you review the civic with the 1.5l turbo ??
I prefer the Seat, and that's not because I own one 😂
Samuel McEvoy ya
The looks to be the most stunning of the 3. And then you get the Honda reliability too
i30 for me : looks good, equipment, warranty.
I have a 2018 i30 SR and I love it!!!
Why is Honda so expensive?? I’d normally go Japanese, but I would go for the Hyundai on this one
Yeah, I think I gonna buy that. Looks way better than the other ones too.
Excellent !!!
The rough sound of 3-cylinder engines could be interpreted instead as 'character' - they still feel fine, just a bit more soul than an I4.
I have the 1 litre and I love the sound it makes when accelerating
Mat, is it Summer in the UK?
it's actually kinda cold
The Civic sedan is absolutely gorgeous, I’m not a fan of hatchbacks but I’d go with the Civic because of the interior, its newish and slick, its just the back side of the car that is well, not really that attractive.
Newish, slick but also poorly insulated and made out of cheap nasty plastics in one of the most epxensive compacts on the market.
It is C segment hatchback not a Mercedes S class, Honda interior plastics are the same as in VW golf or in some places even better at least here in Sweden. Plus Civic is really fun to drive :)
@Haris Mak
Better plastics? There are many different shapes of the same hard plastic. There're almost no soft ones unlike in the Golf which has the highest quality cabin in the segment (even the door bins are padded).
Are VW sold in Europe made in Germany or still made in Mexico? In the USA Honda is more reliable than VW
Would prefer a Skoda Octavia any day, more room in both the cabin & boot!
how the hell you try to put that back cover into the but when its designed to be larger than a boot?