I have the kia proceed gt. I have just test driven the honda. Honda all day. Hooned it around and got 50mpg. Drove it back economical and got 80mpg. Test drive around 1 hour long. Mix of traffic,motorway, town and country roads
@@ys_a1659 didn’t like the old one too much. My kia proceed gt is 4 years old. Almost went for the past honda in 1.5 but the price and size swayed me towards the kia and the warranty. But the aftersales are a massive let down i have found out. Get treated like shit by kia garages. Honda next for me
I can't get over how handsome I think the new civic is. When I then also hear that it also is roomy and basically a more civilised variant of the type R, rather than the other way around as shown by its dynamic abilities, ordering one becomes highly tempting ...
If I hadn’t already made the to switch to electric, I’d seriously consider the Civic. I’ve always been a fan of Hondas but the engineering on this one is really intriguing.
@@slowgoat6089 Yea, it's built for normal weight or fit people. I'm fit and skinny, but weight around 90kg. But if you weight like 50kg, it feels bad. Really needs a cushion.
@@UtopiaYA I settled on an Ioniq Electric, 38kW Premium SE. Would have preferred an Ioniq 5, but it was above my budget. It’s turned out to suit us perfectly as most of our journeys are local and we can charge from home.
@@marvinsamuels1237 honestly forgot that existed - but yeh makes sense it is the original ‘IONIQ’ - they should make it eventually into like some fancy flagship
Driving a Honda Jazz 1.3 litre now. I'll have to say the way it handles, comfort and spaciousness no one had guessed it is a 1.3. Found the ride very comfortable like how it's described. Love my Jazz in every way. If I'm to choose between these three, definitely Civic.
I drive a 1L civic. People laugh when I say it’s a 1L. It’s a lot of car for them money. Getting 50mpg . Love the car. Also handled great, really comfy grippy ride.
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
@@BlingJ. cold and damp roads also affect the performance 🤷🏻♂️ the difference between hot and cold will be marginal. And the isn't affected as much by the hot air because it's engine is acting most of the time as a generator only while driving highway speeds the engine kicks in for extra HP.
Toyota offer a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty provided it serviced each year with them. Honda don’t seem to offer the same value. Hondas are unreliable nowadays. Just look at JD power reliability surveys.
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
I've had the Corolla hatchback (US 2.0L version) for 2 years now and it's been lovely owning this car. It looks stunning and it has fairly nice driving dynamics. however if you're someone who has a family or more than one friend, they're probably not gonna have the best time in the back especially if they're tall. It does have very good storage but the rear passenger room is almost non-existent especially if the passenger is tall. I happen to work at a Honda dealership as well and I'd say the civic is a little more luxuries especially if you choose the higher trims. It has probably the best interior design in the segment and it drives... Maturely. I don't know how to exactly describe it. It drives really nice and it handles great but it's not as classic as the Corolla (And the US version of the corolla is considerably faster than the US civic). If you need a cool fun little hatchback for yourself the Corolla is the way to go but if you need something more family oriented then the civic is the clear winner.
Greetings from Japan. Just ordered the Type R. Very happy to know that the Civic wins the test and looking foward to your Type R review. There are CVT and 6MT for the Civic in Japan. I wish there were more options in Europe too.
I bought the Toyota Corolla!😁 3 months later and no complaints. It's good for 4 people not 5. I mostly drive alone, so no issues on my end. Edit: For those asking what complaints I should have after 3 months. I was referring to the build quality and living with the car. I was skeptical about the small boot/trunk space, but I love the fact that the rear seats fold completely flat. No squeaks or random rattles like my previous VW Polo.
Why do people always say “no complaints” or “no problems so far” after such little time or miles. If complaints were common after an average of only 3 months for a car manufacturer, they’d be out of business fast. Give it 5-10 years of no complaints and I’ll be mildly impressed.
The first owner of my beater of acar drove it for 18 years and 200 000 kms with only regular oil changes and two changes of brake pads and 1 of brake disks. I got it almost for free, changed everything on the suspension, the exhaust and the cluctch. Did another 60 000 kms without any problem. 22 000 kms between oil changes, no oil loss. Average consumption 5.5 l/100km. Want to change it only because of rust. A rusty car is a deth trap, and not nice to look at.
@@Sto79Be The head comment might well also relate to the way it drives, ease of use etc. Some people buy cars and quickly find out certain things don't suit them. Test driving a car and living with a car are quite different.
I would trust the Toyota the most when it comes to hybrid technology. That's why I went for the Corolla. Great car and I'm managing 70-80mpg on my mixed driving work runs
That Honda destroyed the competition in every aspect of the test .Great review as always, only one complain: the real world fuel consumption, it's important for car like that. But I think the honda also win in that regard.
I went to a dealer with my friend looking for a 2nd hand car last year, we looked at some 17 18 civics, with about 20k mileage. Once we switch on the car, we felt some weird vibrations coming from the engine, and making some squeaky noice from the interior console area, not just 1 but both. I know sometimes engine startup in cold weather may vibrate a bit, but that day wasn't that cold tbh, a bit disappointed
@@michaelma3385 what size engine? My 1L civic growls but doesn’t vibrate. I’ve some dash squeaks, dunno what’s going on 🤷🏻♂️ temp related I think. Great car. How did you find those years with that mileage? Crazy
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
@Republicshallriseagain lmao taught them? that would imply america was better than them, Back when they were trying to sell cars in America, the govt was using as much in its power to stop japanese imports. None of the big three japanese were started by people who took technology from the US but were copying European cars until they got better. Americans think like they were the reason why Japan and Germany could raise their economy after the war but the truth is they were powerful and had alrwady established huge empires before the war without American occupation, don't go on beiliveing silly nationalistic conspiraricies about how Americans pumped their money in those countries, most of it went to acquire cheap labour anyway. Japan is considered to be one of the smartest country's in the world, much higher iq than average americans, that's the main reason for the rise of most asian countries
@Republicshallriseagain cry harder kid American muscles getting beaten by 4 cylinder turbo's and V6 😂🤣 also they have pathetic handling jap cars have always been the most well balanced cars which no american car is 😂 the best cars in the world come from japan, Italy, Germany yes the axis powers
I don't get it. You have in your head this Hybrid Civic ..... is exactly the same as the upcoming Type R Civic with an ATMO engine????? Can't be compared mate. The 2 hatches are directed at 2 opposite ends of the Hatchback segment fgs.
Rumoured to have 326bhp and around £40k. No electric motor just a bigger turbo on the old engine. Slightly disappointing if that is the confirmed figure. 350bhp 5 seconds or less to 60 is what was needed this time, otherwise the golf R and M135i will steal sales. Simply cannot justify 40k as that would get you a used 1 year old new M240i Pleasr suprise us Honda with the new Type R....
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
I understand completely. Actually tested one and was lucky enough to have the money available. Bought mine the next day. It's not disappointing in almost any aspect, the only thing is that I have a bad back at the moment and after a couple of hours driving I find the seat somewhat hard and uncomfortable.
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Genuinely so happy that this compact segment is not a bunch of copy cats, each brand has their own design language each interesting and different approaches in their own right.
I like the way the Honda Civic uses the engine power to produce electric energy that powers the wheels to move the car. It's very unconventional, yes, to what we all are accustomed to but in a way I kinda like that difference and different is sometimes good. It keeps things interesting for those who appreciate change sometimes.
I bought a 2018 Honda Accord Hybrid in 2018, brand spanking new! Driven it for some time and got used to it, then one day I drove a regular automatic car. Felt really clunky and sluggish! Because the Honda drives on electric motor, it is so damn smooth(it is essentially an electric car with on-board generator). Then I drove a dual-clutch automatic car. I was wondering if the transmission was broken lol. I was genuinely concerned about how the car was shifting gears! If you try the new Honda hybrid system, I guarantee you'll love it! And it's very fuel efficient. Even in sports mode when you drive it like a maniac it still gets 25+ MPG US. Normal driving would go even up to 45MPG easy! Check out some of my Accord video's on my channel!
Same, at least it will be if petrol prices aren't wallet-busting when my Jazz PCP deal ends in a couple of years. Figure what better way to go for what's likely to be my last ICE car?
Went shopping for a family car with bigger boot earlier this year, so I was comparing the estate versions. and when comparing the Corolla TS GR Sport to the Ceed SW GT-line (highest trims, and biggest engines cause I'm a sucker for that) the Ceed won hands down for boot space , comfort and every option except wireless apple car play vs price (at least in Belgium market trims). Also did the math quite extensively and the premium for the Corolla being a hybrid just really wasn't worth it in any reasonable term (especially when taking taxes for a 2.0l into account). But that may depend on your country of course. Unfortunately the Honda Civic e:HEV wasn't available, because that looks SHARP. But it would have probably been eliminated because of the fact there's no estate version. And 400l of boot space, while a lot for a C class hatch, just isn't all that much when you're hauling around a buggy for 2 kids in addition to... well anything else (that's barely 50l more than my Dacia Sandero which was being replaced). So I got my full option Ceed SW GT-line, with a decent discount for being a demo car, two weeks ago and so far, no regrets.
With the Honda and Toyota you actually get quite a bit for your money. They both have very nice interior materials and quality especially the Honda being brand new model. The Kia on the other hand might be the most affordable out of the 3 but when you sit inside you will get reminded why that is.
I spent quite some time comparing the top trims of the Corolla and Ceed (estate versions) and you get can get about the same stuff on the Kia except for a battery (which, with the 2.0l in the Corolla, really doesn't save you all that much on petrol) and wireless Apple car play ... for 5-7 grand less. Which is quite substantial when looking at cars in the 30 - 40 range.
@@unka2007, my Ceed SW (160hp 1.5 TGDi in ~mid trim; manual, halogen headlights, heated seats+steering, keyless, wireless carplay, 17inch alloys) cost 20k eur, inlaws' Civic (base trim; +22hp, automatic, LED headlights on top of Ceed, missing heated steering wheel sadly) cost 30k eur. Bought few months apart. Getting Ceed in comparable equipment (with automatic and LED package) would've cost me 2700 more (but they were out of stock, otherwise I would have taken it). So Civic is over 30% more expensive, which is considerable. And after I drove it, I would say it might be worth it.
I really like the Corolla (especially with the 2 litre engine) but given the choice I'd have the Civic. Love the fastback/coupe style looks and that lovely, slightly Mazda esque interior. I get why some people would go for the Kia. It's good value, and looks pretty good.
I faced this decision in January 2022 and I´ve chosen Ceed. It has all the equipment as the other cars but price was much better plus that nice warranty. My top spec Ceed is cheaper than lowest spec Honda or Toyota. Hard to argue with that.
Surely you didn't choose the Civic in January, he wasn't available. But i get your point. Civic is to pricey, but Honda nailed it with this Hybrid Version.
@@SuncanoMore I agree...have this new Civic been available I would definitelly check it out. It looks amazing. Sadly even the previous gen was more expensive than Ceed.
@@projectill The current gen Civic is even more (much more) expensive than the previous one - still worth it, IMHO. The best compact car on the market.
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
crazy that a normal honda civic does 0-60 in 6.79 seconds and is a hybrid too. Honda really have outdone themselves in this generation. Looks good, practical, uses the benefits of electric but with the useability from petrol. amazing.
Absolutely love my new civic sport e hev. Drove back from the peak district today 60 mph winding roads. Corners like it's on rails, smooth powerful acceleration and average mpg was 70.2 mpg. The hold feature is great at traffic lights, you just launch off with a big grin on your face. The boot eats my golf clubs and trolley no problem there. Even the door handles, wow! How the doors open and close. Build quality is superb. The washers built into the wipers brilliant, lovely seats, the air circulation from the vents great I could go on and on. Well done Honda fantastic car i love it.
@@greymark420 I was a bit worried as I traded my A class 200d amg which I loved. But I wouldn't have it back now after driving this civic. Don't worry you've made a great choice.
Honda often tend to be conservative on power, my icdti Accord easily trounced the VAG diesel saloons of the time, the Honda was supposed to be 139bhp but came up on dynos as 156bhp and was a shade more compact so explained it.
Mazda 3 should be included. I think it's by far the best looking one, perhaps also the best driving one. Maybe not the most practical one, but not bad.
If only they offered 2.5 L with turbo in Europe... But they don't and the naturally aspirated 2.0 is no match for the new Civic. It's painfully sluggish - my test drive on a highway was a traumatic experience. Civic rides better as well. But Mazda is a much prettier car, that's for sure.
Skoda get alot off recognition in Europe on general. But they are non exsistant in North America and various other areas of the world much like Seat and Dacia.. They are basicly a VW and its VW that get the attention and sales were Skoda are not.. Japanese brands like Toyota, Nissan, Mazda and Honda are sold world wide in comparison to Skoda.
@@265justy Skoda is pretty big in India. Skoda gives tough competition to it's parent company here. They make fun cars and is rising in popularity. Their future lineup means one thing "They are only going to rise in India".
Honda. We own it now for 6 months. 10.000km. Same as in the video but in white colour. Car is just awesome. I have two little daughters but it’s enough for us. Spaceus, fast, good driving position, low fuel consumption, good quality, also android phone can be wireless (change it on ON in the hidden menu) cuz it’s on OFF when you buy it 😊😊
Great review. Covers all you need to know. We have a Kia Xceed phev. It's a superb car. However the normal ceed just looks a bit plain. Honda looks the best inside. Toyota looks the best outside. For me anyway.
We alove attainable cars for most of us poor people… I love the reviews Matt and Carwow. Please reviews more like this not just supercars. Can we have group tests hatchbacks, CUV’s and estates and SUV’s review these in groups with Germany brands. I feel like the kia is the best as its the cheapest as things get more expensive the kia has more bang for your buck.
Take the screen protector off your phone. It won't do anything bad to the Fold 3. The Fold 1, yes, but not the 3. It's so much smoother without it and the screen doesn't scratch THAT easily. Plus, those bubbles down the center can actually cause damage to the display if the protector ends up cracking.
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
No car reviewer of the Ceed mentions the fact the true top spec GT Line S variant which gives it a miles better spec isn't currently available because Kia are struggling with the chip shortage so had to temporarily remove it from the line up. Still, the Civic is the best all-rounder although we don't know from this test what mpg they get. Still love the Corolla.
I have the kia proceed gt. It is impossible in the uk to get a proceed gt with gt line s pack on it. No sunroof, no jbl speakers, no cooled seats, amongst other things
@@slugger7440 i have just driven the honda civic on a test drive. I drove it aggressively for the first half an hour and got 47mpg. I then put it in eco mode and drove back to the showroom and got 80mpg. Seriously impressed on how it drove. Smooth and linear power. Only thing i would need in a top spec which it doesn’t have is cooled seats. But the sunroof more than makes up for it
@@slugger7440 really good with the added subwoofer. But the normal sound system was also really good. They never had the advance mode to test drive but they let me play about with the showroom one which was brilliant. I drove the sport. The sport will be the best seller for most people. I just like all the gadgets and mod cons. Really solid cars. Just need them to come down in price around £3000 haha
I’m fed up with paying so much for my 2020 BMW M340i what with monthly PCP, £40K+ road tax, insurance, £50 per month servicing and then insurance and petrol (basically, £1,000+ per month) so test drive the Civic Advance. I have to say, the Honda felt just as well engineered as the BMW with as good handling and a better ride! Yes my 374bhp BMW is a bit faster but, in all sincerity, after my extended 4 hour test drive of the Civic, the M340i didn’t feel that much faster around town and away from the lights plus it felt like it was trying so much harder; the Civic felt more effortless. Also, the BMW seats felt like cardboard after the lovely soft leather chairs in the Civic! I loved the interior of the Civic and it’s clever design touches although why Honda angled the infotainment screen away from the driver is beyond me! I am seriously thinking about trading in my M340i for an Advance in blue premium paint!
Honda Civic sin duda alguna.El fabricante nipón es toda una referencia en términos de calidad,fiabilidad y por supuesto unos motores que te aportan unas sensaciones al conducir impecables.
It's insane how underrated Honda is in europe, most underrated brand by far bc of EU braand owned mainstream media. The new Jazz, HRV and Civic are all brilliant and perfect for the european market.
As a Honda fan, it always baffles me to check the comments below Honda auto reviews from the UK only to find myself hit by a wave of indifference and contempt. I think it may partially be caused by Honda's traditional ruthless pursuit of efficiency, which in the past has often left their cars feeling a little cheap or unfinished.
In my experience, the problem is that they have quite few dealers, people don't like having to drive far to find an official dealer, it also makes the barrier bigger to try one. They are also priced higher then many European brands (for obvious reasons), so people are scared to spend more money, on a brand they know little about. And the marketing just sucks, VW, Renault, Peugeot, Toyota, Volvo, are everywhere, Honda almost never spends anything on marketing over here. People genuinely don't know what they sell. When you mention Civic, most still think of that simple small hatchback from the 90's, they have no idea what a great mid-sized family vehicle it is now.
I have both. 23 civic and 23 Corolla. The cvt and engine is smoother and quieter in the honda. The ride and seats are better in the Corolla. The civic rides like a wagon. If you have rough roads don’t get the civic. The seats in the civic are hard as a rock. Worse seats I’ve ever had in all my cars. But I’m getting 38-44 mpg on the highway. Corolla has a better longer lasting engine.
Actually you can use android auto wirelessly in the civic. You have to activate it from the cars infortainment system. I dont know why the factory doesnt activate it before selling
The 0-60 time of the civic is almost unbelievable. It's more than 1 second faster. The only reason I can think of is that they measured it in the normal/comfort mode. Seems weird to me as a better 0-60 (although not very important imo) can give a extra pro to a family that is looking for their next car.
Just got the Corolla Hatchback last month (US, 2L naturally aspirated gas engine). I researched for months and tried to get a good deal on a Civic as it really does feel like a better car. I ultimately went with with the Corolla because of price. Got it for $28k. No Honda dealers even considered negotiating the price and after their markups and addons, the best price for a Civic I found was $37k. That being the case, the Rolla is just the better option. Loved it so far!
Just received my Ceed in this colour and I’ll admit it looks so much better in person. 5 months on delivery and mine came with 12v in the passenger and heated vents/manual. I’ve had it for 5 days now and I absolutely love it. Nothing wrong with the speakers at all. You can adjust the base and everything else if you wish. It’s a 1.5 turbo and it moves, if you want anything faster then don’t buy a 1.5 😂
In the UK Toyota's must get different trim levels. I've got the base model Corolla for a while and it's brand new. No digital display and the stereo is a punish to use. It does get a reversing camera though. The engine drones alot and is quite breathless also the trim seems to have a fair bit of movement. I might try the civic next that seems like an innovative little car.
Which are you choosing?
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Murcielago sv review please?
e46 m3
Civic
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These regular car comparisons are great!
Wish Carwow also do race car comparisons.
@@purwantiallan5089 why would they do that their whole business is around selling cars you can’t exactly buy a race car so there’s no use
@@Umar-gw6fy They need to compare video game cars from things like Need for Speed or Grand Theft Auto. 😁
Still can't afford them!
Commercials every 2 minutes make me sick. UA-cam became greedy and annoying ☹☹☹
Thank you carwow for doing a comparison that is on reasonably affordable vehicles that people commonly drive. I would personally take the Honda.
Hope Carwow do a comparison between Celica GT4 ST205 WRC, Stratos HF Rally Car, and Diablo 2000.
I have the kia proceed gt. I have just test driven the honda.
Honda all day. Hooned it around and got 50mpg. Drove it back economical and got 80mpg. Test drive around 1 hour long. Mix of traffic,motorway, town and country roads
@@wilsonroofer Why didn’t you choose the Honda then?
@@ys_a1659 Cuz they bought the Kia before testing the Honda. Duhhh...
@@ys_a1659 didn’t like the old one too much. My kia proceed gt is 4 years old. Almost went for the past honda in 1.5 but the price and size swayed me towards the kia and the warranty. But the aftersales are a massive let down i have found out. Get treated like shit by kia garages.
Honda next for me
I can't get over how handsome I think the new civic is. When I then also hear that it also is roomy and basically a more civilised variant of the type R, rather than the other way around as shown by its dynamic abilities, ordering one becomes highly tempting ...
If I hadn’t already made the to switch to electric, I’d seriously consider the Civic. I’ve always been a fan of Hondas but the engineering on this one is really intriguing.
The civic seats suck ass, cant even sit in it for 30 minutes. Corolla is way softer and comfortable.
@@slowgoat6089 Yea, it's built for normal weight or fit people. I'm fit and skinny, but weight around 90kg. But if you weight like 50kg, it feels bad. Really needs a cushion.
What car did u get? Like spec and stuff
@@UtopiaYA I settled on an Ioniq Electric, 38kW Premium SE. Would have preferred an Ioniq 5, but it was above my budget. It’s turned out to suit us perfectly as most of our journeys are local and we can charge from home.
@@marvinsamuels1237 honestly forgot that existed - but yeh makes sense it is the original ‘IONIQ’ - they should make it eventually into like some fancy flagship
Driving a Honda Jazz 1.3 litre now. I'll have to say the way it handles, comfort and spaciousness no one had guessed it is a 1.3.
Found the ride very comfortable like how it's described. Love my Jazz in every way.
If I'm to choose between these three, definitely Civic.
I have the 1.5L Hybrid Fit and it's really enjoyable especially with the DCT. Does 0-60mph in 7.5 seconds
@@davaunfrancis590 😳
Its a Jazz brother. 1.3 especially. What can you handle LOL. Comfort and spaciousness I agree.
@@davaunfrancis590 hondas gone crazy lately with acceleration. the oddeseys 0-60 mph of SIX POINT FIVE SECONDS.
in a minivan.
I drive a 1L civic. People laugh when I say it’s a 1L. It’s a lot of car for them money. Getting 50mpg . Love the car. Also handled great, really comfy grippy ride.
Surprisingly good acceleration by the Civic. Looks good too.
The 2023 Civic has 160mph top speed actually according to the top speed test.
0-60 similar to an EP3!
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
@@BlingJ. cold and damp roads also affect the performance 🤷🏻♂️ the difference between hot and cold will be marginal. And the isn't affected as much by the hot air because it's engine is acting most of the time as a generator only while driving highway speeds the engine kicks in for extra HP.
@@BlingJ. oh and FYI it has been around 20°C for the past 2 weeks in Great Britain . So not that cold either 😉
Buying a Honda is a safe deal. Reliable, good looking and fun to drive. Just a honest car, absolutely love it!
So is the corolla
To be honest what wins me over is how it looks, it actually looks premium especially for the price
I think the Civic was once beautiful... But got ugly as the years went on. Best looking car in this segment is the Mazda 3....hands down...
Toyota offer a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty provided it serviced each year with them. Honda don’t seem to offer the same value. Hondas are unreliable nowadays. Just look at JD power reliability surveys.
same thing for the toyota, i just was hoping u where not saying that shitty kia is good
Always been a Toyota fan nice to see the Corolla featured on the channel 👌👌
As a diehard lovelive fan i also agree the Corolla GR is amazing on the eye
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these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
I've had the Corolla hatchback (US 2.0L version) for 2 years now and it's been lovely owning this car. It looks stunning and it has fairly nice driving dynamics. however if you're someone who has a family or more than one friend, they're probably not gonna have the best time in the back especially if they're tall. It does have very good storage but the rear passenger room is almost non-existent especially if the passenger is tall. I happen to work at a Honda dealership as well and I'd say the civic is a little more luxuries especially if you choose the higher trims. It has probably the best interior design in the segment and it drives... Maturely. I don't know how to exactly describe it. It drives really nice and it handles great but it's not as classic as the Corolla (And the US version of the corolla is considerably faster than the US civic). If you need a cool fun little hatchback for yourself the Corolla is the way to go but if you need something more family oriented then the civic is the clear winner.
Perfect video for me!! You should do more of these real life comparisons! Really helpful. Just confirmed i want a civic as my new car. Thank you
Greetings from Japan.
Just ordered the Type R. Very happy to know that the Civic wins the test and looking foward to your Type R review.
There are CVT and 6MT for the Civic in Japan. I wish there were more options in Europe too.
I reckon the 6MT sales is so low
It's low, but a car reviewer I like highly recommends it. It's like a baby Type R.
I bought the Toyota Corolla!😁 3 months later and no complaints. It's good for 4 people not 5. I mostly drive alone, so no issues on my end.
Edit: For those asking what complaints I should have after 3 months. I was referring to the build quality and living with the car. I was skeptical about the small boot/trunk space, but I love the fact that the rear seats fold completely flat. No squeaks or random rattles like my previous VW Polo.
Why do people always say “no complaints” or “no problems so far” after such little time or miles. If complaints were common after an average of only 3 months for a car manufacturer, they’d be out of business fast. Give it 5-10 years of no complaints and I’ll be mildly impressed.
The first owner of my beater of acar drove it for 18 years and 200 000 kms with only regular oil changes and two changes of brake pads and 1 of brake disks. I got it almost for free, changed everything on the suspension, the exhaust and the cluctch. Did another 60 000 kms without any problem. 22 000 kms between oil changes, no oil loss. Average consumption 5.5 l/100km. Want to change it only because of rust. A rusty car is a deth trap, and not nice to look at.
What complaints can you possibly have on a car after 3 months of use?
@@Sto79Be The head comment might well also relate to the way it drives, ease of use etc. Some people buy cars and quickly find out certain things don't suit them. Test driving a car and living with a car are quite different.
I have a Corolla hybrid "made in Japan" and it's great generally speaking, but the assembly quality sucks a*s. I am so disapointed of it.
Honda innovating, incredible work.
I would trust the Toyota the most when it comes to hybrid technology. That's why I went for the Corolla. Great car and I'm managing 70-80mpg on my mixed driving work runs
The Civic has that 90's Japanese car vibe! Honda did a great job.
That Honda destroyed the competition in every aspect of the test .Great review as always, only one complain: the real world fuel consumption, it's important for car like that. But I think the honda also win in that regard.
I went to a dealer with my friend looking for a 2nd hand car last year, we looked at some 17 18 civics, with about 20k mileage. Once we switch on the car, we felt some weird vibrations coming from the engine, and making some squeaky noice from the interior console area, not just 1 but both.
I know sometimes engine startup in cold weather may vibrate a bit, but that day wasn't that cold tbh, a bit disappointed
@@michaelma3385 what size engine? My 1L civic growls but doesn’t vibrate. I’ve some dash squeaks, dunno what’s going on 🤷🏻♂️ temp related I think. Great car. How did you find those years with that mileage? Crazy
Toyota has best mpg easily
@@roteskaeppchen do u like how it rides on Autobahns?
The Honda isn't a hybrid
Wow, you can see that Honda was very well thought out, like they actually used it and went through some feedback cycles.
Happy to see u guys review more attainable cars lately, keep up the good work!👊
Amazing.
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
@@BlingJ. What are u on about?
@@BlingJ. Mate, these are supposed to be family hatchbacks, I don't you'll people driving around like its been stolen in these cars.
japanese cars are absolutely rocking it, as always.
@Republicshallriseagain Americans nuked innocent Japanese civilians and were never tried for war crimes lol
@Republicshallriseagain lmao taught them? that would imply america was better than them, Back when they were trying to sell cars in America, the govt was using as much in its power to stop japanese imports. None of the big three japanese were started by people who took technology from the US but were copying European cars until they got better. Americans think like they were the reason why Japan and Germany could raise their economy after the war but the truth is they were powerful and had alrwady established huge empires before the war without American occupation, don't go on beiliveing silly nationalistic conspiraricies about how Americans pumped their money in those countries, most of it went to acquire cheap labour anyway. Japan is considered to be one of the smartest country's in the world, much higher iq than average americans, that's the main reason for the rise of most asian countries
@Republicshallriseagain cry harder kid
American muscles getting beaten by 4 cylinder turbo's and V6 😂🤣
also they have pathetic handling
jap cars have always been the most well balanced cars which no american car is 😂
the best cars in the world come from
japan, Italy, Germany
yes the axis powers
@@Moonlight-hq3gi ^
@@Moonlight-hq3gi Nah Toyota beats all cars.
Honda still showing off their prowess in their engineering 🔥
Can't wait to see how good the new Type R will be, very is my guess
The 2023 Civic Type R i bet it may outperform even Lancer EVO VI RS.
I don't get it. You have in your head this Hybrid Civic ..... is exactly the same as the upcoming Type R Civic with an ATMO engine????? Can't be compared mate. The 2 hatches are directed at 2 opposite ends of the Hatchback segment fgs.
@@purwantiallan5089 Doesn’t the Lancer have 4WD?
Rumoured to have 326bhp and around £40k. No electric motor just a bigger turbo on the old engine.
Slightly disappointing if that is the confirmed figure.
350bhp 5 seconds or less to 60 is what was needed this time, otherwise the golf R and M135i will steal sales.
Simply cannot justify 40k as that would get you a used 1 year old new M240i
Pleasr suprise us Honda with the new Type R....
@@philc1773 and Honda need an automatic gearbox for the type R as VW/Audi and BMW are stealing sales with their automatics
I just like the design of the Civic. Looks really good. Much better than the previous generation
Ice Bear, me too love the styling of 2023 Civic Type R. It also has a nice amount of bhp. About 375.
Its shite
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
@Purwanti Allan 330hp max Power for jdm Market and 400nm torque
Definitely the Civic... though, if Ceed/i30 would come out with a HEV version, the i30 fastback would be a serious competitor to the Civic.
An interesting comparison there. I love the Honda Civic and have already ordered one.
Test drived this new Honda Civic, amazing car, don't have the money right now but would buy directly if I could ❤
I understand completely. Actually tested one and was lucky enough to have the money available. Bought mine the next day. It's not disappointing in almost any aspect, the only thing is that I have a bad back at the moment and after a couple of hours driving I find the seat somewhat hard and uncomfortable.
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Since when does the man know about the pregnancy before the woman?
And his name is Matt.
A mat is an object.
@@tkendall why do u ruin everything
@@tkendall Mat is always used as funny objects, Kendall T.
Got the Civic already. Great car, absolutely love it. Although I'm looking forward to see what the next year Corolla is going to be.
You bought the Civic, Alberto? Wow.
kids car, really kids design :))) the ugliest civic of them all
@Pirocharm
Not until you see lightly modded one around Thai.
@@Pirocharm you sound like a child yourself
Hola Alberto, es posible quitar el sonido artificial del motor?
The new civic is amazing
Not really
@@hyper_falcon6429 its top speed only have 160mph, HYPER FALCON.
Yes, the Civic is really good. Easily the best out of the three.
@@purwantiallan5089 160 mph? Are you ok?
Except they forgot to make a stationwagon
Genuinely so happy that this compact segment is not a bunch of copy cats, each brand has their own design language each interesting and different approaches in their own right.
I like the way the Honda Civic uses the engine power to produce electric energy that powers the wheels to move the car. It's very unconventional, yes, to what we all are accustomed to but in a way I kinda like that difference and different is sometimes good. It keeps things interesting for those who appreciate change sometimes.
I bought a 2018 Honda Accord Hybrid in 2018, brand spanking new! Driven it for some time and got used to it, then one day I drove a regular automatic car. Felt really clunky and sluggish! Because the Honda drives on electric motor, it is so damn smooth(it is essentially an electric car with on-board generator). Then I drove a dual-clutch automatic car. I was wondering if the transmission was broken lol. I was genuinely concerned about how the car was shifting gears! If you try the new Honda hybrid system, I guarantee you'll love it! And it's very fuel efficient. Even in sports mode when you drive it like a maniac it still gets 25+ MPG US. Normal driving would go even up to 45MPG easy! Check out some of my Accord video's on my channel!
I'm a Honda fanboy so... for me it will be the Type R 😁
Same, at least it will be if petrol prices aren't wallet-busting when my Jazz PCP deal ends in a couple of years. Figure what better way to go for what's likely to be my last ICE car?
The interior of the new Civic is pretty nice.
And looked better than Gran Turismo 4's standard interiors.
better than some luxury car let's be honest
The design of the new Civic is pretty damn good!
Honda did a fantastic job on this civic and on the civic Type R too !
Went shopping for a family car with bigger boot earlier this year, so I was comparing the estate versions. and when comparing the Corolla TS GR Sport to the Ceed SW GT-line (highest trims, and biggest engines cause I'm a sucker for that) the Ceed won hands down for boot space , comfort and every option except wireless apple car play vs price (at least in Belgium market trims). Also did the math quite extensively and the premium for the Corolla being a hybrid just really wasn't worth it in any reasonable term (especially when taking taxes for a 2.0l into account). But that may depend on your country of course.
Unfortunately the Honda Civic e:HEV wasn't available, because that looks SHARP. But it would have probably been eliminated because of the fact there's no estate version. And 400l of boot space, while a lot for a C class hatch, just isn't all that much when you're hauling around a buggy for 2 kids in addition to... well anything else (that's barely 50l more than my Dacia Sandero which was being replaced).
So I got my full option Ceed SW GT-line, with a decent discount for being a demo car, two weeks ago and so far, no regrets.
Excellent choice, and a 7 year warranty to boot!
Koreans built quality has improved so much over the years!
Yep. The same goes to Accent and Tiburons.
Improved? It alwaays was good
@@player1GR my neighbour had 2007 SantaFe 2.2d engine failed at 140.000km …
@@Battery-Powered I am pretty sure it was his fault.. I personally have seen a lot of Hyundai's making it way above that number..
@@beautifulday1665 I agree it is very possible that he did something wrong
With the Honda and Toyota you actually get quite a bit for your money. They both have very nice interior materials and quality especially the Honda being brand new model. The Kia on the other hand might be the most affordable out of the 3 but when you sit inside you will get reminded why that is.
Honda and Toyota are charging a lot more and giving a lot less warranty so they better have nicer interior materials. 🙄
I spent quite some time comparing the top trims of the Corolla and Ceed (estate versions) and you get can get about the same stuff on the Kia except for a battery (which, with the 2.0l in the Corolla, really doesn't save you all that much on petrol) and wireless Apple car play ... for 5-7 grand less. Which is quite substantial when looking at cars in the 30 - 40 range.
@@roaddog7542 10 year warranty on the Toyota
i dont think Toyotas and Hondas are more expensive than Kias.
well slighty expensive like 1000~2000$ more.
@@unka2007, my Ceed SW (160hp 1.5 TGDi in ~mid trim; manual, halogen headlights, heated seats+steering, keyless, wireless carplay, 17inch alloys) cost 20k eur, inlaws' Civic (base trim; +22hp, automatic, LED headlights on top of Ceed, missing heated steering wheel sadly) cost 30k eur. Bought few months apart. Getting Ceed in comparable equipment (with automatic and LED package) would've cost me 2700 more (but they were out of stock, otherwise I would have taken it). So Civic is over 30% more expensive, which is considerable. And after I drove it, I would say it might be worth it.
I really like the Corolla (especially with the 2 litre engine) but given the choice I'd have the Civic. Love the fastback/coupe style looks and that lovely, slightly Mazda esque interior. I get why some people would go for the Kia. It's good value, and looks pretty good.
The civic looks very good, the Type R is one of best looking cars of it's class ever
That civic is awesome, and the type R sure I'll be super. Dream car
I faced this decision in January 2022 and I´ve chosen Ceed. It has all the equipment as the other cars but price was much better plus that nice warranty.
My top spec Ceed is cheaper than lowest spec Honda or Toyota. Hard to argue with that.
Surely you didn't choose the Civic in January, he wasn't available.
But i get your point. Civic is to pricey, but Honda nailed it with this Hybrid Version.
@@SuncanoMore I agree...have this new Civic been available I would definitelly check it out. It looks amazing. Sadly even the previous gen was more expensive than Ceed.
@@projectill The current gen Civic is even more (much more) expensive than the previous one - still worth it, IMHO. The best compact car on the market.
The Civic is a brilliant car!! Just love the look of it, inside and outside! Very clean, and great performance. Will definitely get one, pretty soon..
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
Great car with astonishing 3 year warranty
Me too, mate. I've configured one this week and requested some offers from my closest dealers. I can't wait to drive it 🥳
I particularly hate the rear end of the car. One ugly butt.
The Honda Civic is the ultimate family hatchback you need!
Is it thought..
crazy that a normal honda civic does 0-60 in 6.79 seconds and is a hybrid too. Honda really have outdone themselves in this generation. Looks good, practical, uses the benefits of electric but with the useability from petrol. amazing.
The new Civic is a masterpiece anyone in this market needs to try one 👍
Although I'm a Kia fan, I'd go for Civic in this case. Such a great car it is!
I absolutely love the Civic.
I have a 22 civic and so far I like it a lot. There’s also a boot cover built into the hatch door as well
Absolutely love my new civic sport e hev. Drove back from the peak district today 60 mph winding roads. Corners like it's on rails, smooth powerful acceleration and average mpg was 70.2 mpg. The hold feature is great at traffic lights, you just launch off with a big grin on your face. The boot eats my golf clubs and trolley no problem there. Even the door handles, wow! How the doors open and close. Build quality is superb. The washers built into the wipers brilliant, lovely seats, the air circulation from the vents great I could go on and on. Well done Honda fantastic car i love it.
Ordered the Advance in blue, have to wait till March next year.☹. Nice to read that you are enjoying the car.
@@greymark420 I was a bit worried as I traded my A class 200d amg which I loved. But I wouldn't have it back now after driving this civic. Don't worry you've made a great choice.
I own 2021 ceed and i cannot be more happy with it
I would also choose the Honda. Great video Matt from Carwow.
Finally Honda went back to a nice car design. I could imagine to buy one...
I'd be tempted to buy the Honda especially with that performance! That's Fiesta ST performance!
You sure about that? Fiesta ST?
@@purwantiallan5089 The Fiesta ST is 6.5 sec to 60 mph, so it's close.
Honda often tend to be conservative on power, my icdti Accord easily trounced the VAG diesel saloons of the time, the Honda was supposed to be 139bhp but came up on dynos as 156bhp and was a shade more compact so explained it.
It's actually exactly the other way around.
@@oemj7147 Its really not. Unless you remapped your pdi.
@@robc8593 We'll have to agree to disagree.
@@oemj7147 it depends on the year and model but thats generally the case in Europe
Mazda 3 should be included. I think it's by far the best looking one, perhaps also the best driving one. Maybe not the most practical one, but not bad.
Agree 100%..
I went the Mazda 3 manual 2.5ltr in Oz 🇦🇺
If only they offered 2.5 L with turbo in Europe... But they don't and the naturally aspirated 2.0 is no match for the new Civic. It's painfully sluggish - my test drive on a highway was a traumatic experience. Civic rides better as well. But Mazda is a much prettier car, that's for sure.
Excited with the new Civic Type R Mat🙌
I really like the look of the new civic
Well, my dream is to own a Lexus and a Honda Civic Type R. However, I feel Skoda is quite underlooked.
Skoda get alot off recognition in Europe on general. But they are non exsistant in North America and various other areas of the world much like Seat and Dacia.. They are basicly a VW and its VW that get the attention and sales were Skoda are not.. Japanese brands like Toyota, Nissan, Mazda and Honda are sold world wide in comparison to Skoda.
@@265justy Skoda is pretty big in India. Skoda gives tough competition to it's parent company here. They make fun cars and is rising in popularity. Their future lineup means one thing "They are only going to rise in India".
Honda.
We own it now for 6 months.
10.000km.
Same as in the video but in white colour.
Car is just awesome.
I have two little daughters but it’s enough for us.
Spaceus, fast, good driving position, low fuel consumption, good quality, also android phone can be wireless (change it on ON in the hidden menu)
cuz it’s on OFF when you buy it
😊😊
Matt on the Kia :“Is it fun? No it’s not”
If you wanted fun you wouldn't be looking at any of these.
@@billsiviter9272 Bill, KIA not gonna match even Isuzu.
Well my Kia ceed handles similar to my Alfa giulietta
Stinger is plenty fun
Even their smallest hatch is more fun than a basic Golf/Corolla
Great review. Covers all you need to know. We have a Kia Xceed phev. It's a superb car. However the normal ceed just looks a bit plain. Honda looks the best inside. Toyota looks the best outside. For me anyway.
We alove attainable cars for most of us poor people… I love the reviews Matt and Carwow. Please reviews more like this not just supercars.
Can we have group tests hatchbacks, CUV’s and estates and SUV’s review these in groups with Germany brands.
I feel like the kia is the best as its the cheapest as things get more expensive the kia has more bang for your buck.
Hope Mat also review a Custom Coupe Ultimate, a car from Burnout 2.
I don't think poor people tend to have circa £30k to spend on a new car
@@purwantiallan5089 yeah coupes are the best cars hands down
They are attainable on a PCP .
HP puts them out of most average persons income
I'm still sporting my 06 civic hybrid with no problems. If I had the money and needed a new car I would definitely go with the civic.
Honda all day.
Our Honda Jazz from 2009 is indestructible.
Top quality!
Take the screen protector off your phone. It won't do anything bad to the Fold 3. The Fold 1, yes, but not the 3. It's so much smoother without it and the screen doesn't scratch THAT easily. Plus, those bubbles down the center can actually cause damage to the display if the protector ends up cracking.
Really liking this new civic ngl, looks good and it’s also practical.
Great to see comparisons between more lower end, models and makes 👍
these are tested unde very very cold or chilly climate in hot regions like asia does have hot air intake will effect the performance, where car ac are on all the time
@@BlingJ. the Honda will be less affected, as its running off an electric motor, via the battery.
Honda have knocked it out of the park with this Civic, mpg is very good too.
That civic is honest to goodess quick. All three are great choices but the Honda is just a better all arounder.
That Honda is effin gorgeous!!
Wow 👏. I love the detailed description and performance of all three cars. I agree that the Honda is at the number 1 spot 👌. Thanks.
No car reviewer of the Ceed mentions the fact the true top spec GT Line S variant which gives it a miles better spec isn't currently available because Kia are struggling with the chip shortage so had to temporarily remove it from the line up. Still, the Civic is the best all-rounder although we don't know from this test what mpg they get. Still love the Corolla.
I have the kia proceed gt. It is impossible in the uk to get a proceed gt with gt line s pack on it. No sunroof, no jbl speakers, no cooled seats, amongst other things
@@wilsonroofer yeah Kia really gonna lose sales on that. So stupid
@@slugger7440 i have just driven the honda civic on a test drive. I drove it aggressively for the first half an hour and got 47mpg.
I then put it in eco mode and drove back to the showroom and got 80mpg. Seriously impressed on how it drove. Smooth and linear power.
Only thing i would need in a top spec which it doesn’t have is cooled seats.
But the sunroof more than makes up for it
@@wilsonroofer nice one. How did you find the Bose stereo?
@@slugger7440 really good with the added subwoofer. But the normal sound system was also really good. They never had the advance mode to test drive but they let me play about with the showroom one which was brilliant. I drove the sport.
The sport will be the best seller for most people. I just like all the gadgets and mod cons.
Really solid cars. Just need them to come down in price around £3000 haha
I’m fed up with paying so much for my 2020 BMW M340i what with monthly PCP, £40K+ road tax, insurance, £50 per month servicing and then insurance and petrol (basically, £1,000+ per month) so test drive the Civic Advance. I have to say, the Honda felt just as well engineered as the BMW with as good handling and a better ride! Yes my 374bhp BMW is a bit faster but, in all sincerity, after my extended 4 hour test drive of the Civic, the M340i didn’t feel that much faster around town and away from the lights plus it felt like it was trying so much harder; the Civic felt more effortless. Also, the BMW seats felt like cardboard after the lovely soft leather chairs in the Civic! I loved the interior of the Civic and it’s clever design touches although why Honda angled the infotainment screen away from the driver is beyond me! I am seriously thinking about trading in my M340i for an Advance in blue premium paint!
I have a corolla and im happy with it.
Honda Civic sin duda alguna.El fabricante nipón es toda una referencia en términos de calidad,fiabilidad y por supuesto unos motores que te aportan unas sensaciones al conducir impecables.
It's insane how underrated Honda is in europe, most underrated brand by far bc of EU braand owned mainstream media. The new Jazz, HRV and Civic are all brilliant and perfect for the european market.
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As a Honda fan, it always baffles me to check the comments below Honda auto reviews from the UK only to find myself hit by a wave of indifference and contempt. I think it may partially be caused by Honda's traditional ruthless pursuit of efficiency, which in the past has often left their cars feeling a little cheap or unfinished.
In my experience, the problem is that they have quite few dealers, people don't like having to drive far to find an official dealer, it also makes the barrier bigger to try one.
They are also priced higher then many European brands (for obvious reasons), so people are scared to spend more money, on a brand they know little about.
And the marketing just sucks, VW, Renault, Peugeot, Toyota, Volvo, are everywhere, Honda almost never spends anything on marketing over here.
People genuinely don't know what they sell.
When you mention Civic, most still think of that simple small hatchback from the 90's, they have no idea what a great mid-sized family vehicle it is now.
Ordered an advanced spec Honda, looking forward to getting it
Got my honda civic 2 days ago and I get looks and praises everywhere I go :). Drives super nicely, safe and reliable
I have both.
23 civic and 23 Corolla. The cvt and engine is smoother and quieter in the honda. The ride and seats are better in the Corolla. The civic rides like a wagon. If you have rough roads don’t get the civic. The seats in the civic are hard as a rock. Worse seats I’ve ever had in all my cars. But I’m getting 38-44 mpg on the highway.
Corolla has a better longer lasting engine.
also the hybrid drivetrain in the corolla is battle tested, the honda, not so sure
I would go for the Honda, much better engineered car obviously!
Honda 💪
Actually you can use android auto wirelessly in the civic. You have to activate it from the cars infortainment system. I dont know why the factory doesnt activate it before selling
Honda couldn’t have done it better. The new civic I just soooo good
honda knows to make great cars
civic is prob very good. I have the Honda HRV 2017 for 6 years and no problems, with routine oil maintenance and battery replacement.
I love it when he says 'cos I'm Matt Watson'
'And you're watching Carwow'
Damn that Bentley Civic looking cool😩
The 0-60 time of the civic is almost unbelievable.
It's more than 1 second faster.
The only reason I can think of is that they measured it in the normal/comfort mode.
Seems weird to me as a better 0-60 (although not very important imo) can give a extra pro to a family that is looking for their next car.
Great comparison of three modern cars. No mention of range capability though......a necessity today. Keep up the good work Matt.
I enjoyed watching the Video Comparison. The New Honda Civic Is my favourite 😊
Just got the Corolla Hatchback last month (US, 2L naturally aspirated gas engine). I researched for months and tried to get a good deal on a Civic as it really does feel like a better car. I ultimately went with with the Corolla because of price. Got it for $28k. No Honda dealers even considered negotiating the price and after their markups and addons, the best price for a Civic I found was $37k. That being the case, the Rolla is just the better option. Loved it so far!
Watching this in the US, hoping Honda offers the hybrid power train in the civic hatch
Just received my Ceed in this colour and I’ll admit it looks so much better in person. 5 months on delivery and mine came with 12v in the passenger and heated vents/manual. I’ve had it for 5 days now and I absolutely love it. Nothing wrong with the speakers at all. You can adjust the base and everything else if you wish. It’s a 1.5 turbo and it moves, if you want anything faster then don’t buy a 1.5 😂
The blue flame colour doesn’t look anything like it does in this video, not knocking the video at all I guess some things just look better off camera.
I was expecting the usual "well it really depends on what you want" but was pleasantly surprised well done Carwow
I'd go for the ceed very nice interior and quite to drive. Lots of room in the boot too.
I would take the civic,but in a stronger colour.
“Never seen it before in a kia, but I’m matt watson and you’re watching carwow”. Literal gold ahahhah
In the UK Toyota's must get different trim levels. I've got the base model Corolla for a while and it's brand new. No digital display and the stereo is a punish to use. It does get a reversing camera though. The engine drones alot and is quite breathless also the trim seems to have a fair bit of movement. I might try the civic next that seems like an innovative little car.
I would choose the Honda civic. this car is better than the others. Thanks for reviewing💙💙❤❤