2021 VW Golf vs Seat Leon review - why the Golf is NOT the best family car you can buy | What Car?

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  • There's no competition when it comes to sales, the VW Golf has absolutely trounced the Seat Leon in that department over the years, and generally the Golf has always been the better car. But are things about the change? As always, the new Leon is very similar to its VW Group sibling, but there are a few key differences which actually make it a better car. Watch to find out why.
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  • @whatcar
    @whatcar  3 роки тому +36

    Leon or Golf - which would you have? 🤔

  • @DanCollinsPhotography
    @DanCollinsPhotography 3 роки тому +222

    I’d have the Seat. It’s better looking, better infotainment system and it’s cheaper, a no brainer

    • @TheWolf133
      @TheWolf133 3 роки тому +7

      Lmao until you actually drive them.

    • @denniissv1444
      @denniissv1444 3 роки тому +33

      @@TheWolf133 lol, the cars are build on same plattform and have the same engine

    • @claudiorodriguez8254
      @claudiorodriguez8254 3 роки тому +3

      @@denniissv1444 same platform BUT Volkswagen comes with independent rear suspension on everything above 150 cv, besides, where the Leon is lacking is in the technology department. Completely agree the Seat looks much better, but as expected the build quality of the VW will be much better. So the choice will come with trade offs, no doubt.

    • @benjamyn4314
      @benjamyn4314 3 роки тому +10

      @@denniissv1444 Yeah but driving a Golf , it's a unique feeling trust me , it's no way to compare Leon with Golf, a copy with the original , and Leon looks better?.. I'm not agree, the tastes are different for each person !

    • @legendeedge5108
      @legendeedge5108 3 роки тому +4

      Golf is definitely better 👍.

  • @victorherrero4790
    @victorherrero4790 3 роки тому +59

    Seat Leon for two things: value and design.

  • @angrymuffinsb
    @angrymuffinsb 3 роки тому +110

    I’ve always preferred the Leon; the Golf is losing its identity

  • @leesullivan1916
    @leesullivan1916 3 роки тому +82

    Button free dashboards will kill choice for Disabled drivers... 😕
    And probably do nothing for road safety in general.

    • @podge5555
      @podge5555 3 роки тому +17

      Manufacturers haven’t copped on to the fact that most customers hate touch screens 😕

    • @stuartfrost6464
      @stuartfrost6464 3 роки тому +3

      Voice activation, no need for buttons.

    • @leesullivan1916
      @leesullivan1916 3 роки тому +12

      @@stuartfrost6464 not reliable enough and slow...

    • @stuartfrost6464
      @stuartfrost6464 3 роки тому +1

      Try this version and think again.

    • @leesullivan1916
      @leesullivan1916 3 роки тому

      @@stuartfrost6464 who's?

  • @pelss7426
    @pelss7426 3 роки тому +106

    I usually like German cars but the new Golf looks comparatively plain next to the much better looking Leon.

    • @patricklawrence8765
      @patricklawrence8765 3 роки тому +1

      My sister has a new Leon and it’s sooo much more exciting than the Leon

    • @patricklawrence8765
      @patricklawrence8765 3 роки тому +7

      *sooo much better than the golf

    • @Sto79Be
      @Sto79Be 3 роки тому +2

      Nothing German about the Leon. Nope, definitely 100% Spanish and not influenced at all by the VAG design language! 😆

    • @abmilzo
      @abmilzo 2 роки тому +2

      Did you know the engine in a Seat Leon is..... a VW engine

    • @theprophetoftruth8268
      @theprophetoftruth8268 2 роки тому +2

      Their both German

  • @MsSonic19
    @MsSonic19 3 роки тому +50

    This dark blue is definitely much better than Mat's (Carwow) white leon. Seriously, white paint does this car an injustice.

    • @jemma1771
      @jemma1771 3 роки тому +3

      It really does I've just ordered the Black FR the car I have now is the white FR ibiza and that looks lovely in white I think the black round the grill looks cheap on the white one

    • @lionzion5382
      @lionzion5382 3 роки тому

      White cars are for people without personalities; they tend to look like cabs

    • @KING0SISQO
      @KING0SISQO 3 роки тому +2

      Lion Zion i didn’t like white cars until I noticed them with the sunroof and the sporty looks. Ever since I’ve bought white cars in sporty form.
      But I agree a standard white car is dull.

    • @mihnealazar7039
      @mihnealazar7039 3 роки тому

      @@lionzion5382 pearlescent white is quite nice though. At least when you are closer to the car.

    • @DancinJim
      @DancinJim 3 роки тому +3

      @@lionzion5382 If you define your personality by what car you buy, you have no personality.

  • @joe80ss
    @joe80ss 3 роки тому +54

    Nice about time the Leon beat the Golf.

    • @tommate4727
      @tommate4727 3 роки тому +2

      Should of beat it at the mk3 version aswell

    • @tommate4727
      @tommate4727 3 роки тому

      Will Thompson because you are buyest.. I mean look at your pro pic ha

    • @kristijandimitrov8305
      @kristijandimitrov8305 3 роки тому

      We beat them 2 generations in a row on track and on street basically on everythong

  • @thedelaminator
    @thedelaminator 3 роки тому +56

    The whole point of the central brake light being high is so that it can be seen by not only the car immediately behind. Putting it at the same level as the other brake lights is stupid.

    • @stephenwakeman3074
      @stephenwakeman3074 3 роки тому

      It’s interesting if you look up regulation on CHMSL the only specification is that it is centred unless on a moving panel like a door and is in absolute terms, higher than the side stop lamps. Technically it is higher because the line it’s in rests atop of the lenses for the side stop lamps. You see this on some vans as well like Renault vans, where the CHMSL is in the middle under the tail door window and is also not “high” mounted.

  • @londonladjeff3575
    @londonladjeff3575 3 роки тому +3

    i bought the Leon FR eTSI 150 HP Estate and its an absolute dream to drive , i have had it 2 months and cannot think of any faults. And for the first time in my driving life l got the Automatic, what a dream drive especially in sport mode

  • @zakynthos64
    @zakynthos64 3 роки тому +26

    Leon much better looking and i love my 2019 FR 2.0 TDI.

    • @simo6639
      @simo6639 3 роки тому

      I love my old 2014 fr still enjoy driving

    • @RANDP117
      @RANDP117 3 роки тому +2

      Driving a late 2019 Xcellence Sportstourer 2.0 TDI with the 7 gear DSG.. Love the car so much that I will get the new model in 3 month as 2.0 TDI again!

  • @forza223bowe5
    @forza223bowe5 3 роки тому +24

    Golf isn’t what it used to be

    • @ossitikkanen1335
      @ossitikkanen1335 3 роки тому

      Indeed, it´s much better than it used to be :-)

    • @mihnealazar7039
      @mihnealazar7039 3 роки тому

      VW isn’t what it used to be with its crappy quality recently. Looking at you ID.3 and T-cross.

  • @inklinginkidor389
    @inklinginkidor389 3 роки тому +8

    Love the leon, i bought myself a 2012 seat leon cupra r, and I love it, very practical for a small car and if you like perforemence, it brings it with its 2.0 tsi petrol with 270 hp

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 3 роки тому +4

    When are touchscreen when driving going to be banned , buttons please, if you can’t use a phone why is it ok to take your eyes off the road to adjust the climate control..insane

  • @AntJoseph_
    @AntJoseph_ 3 роки тому +25

    Plot Twist: there’s a Toyota Corolla and a Mazda 3 in the market as well ;)

    • @aadi8568
      @aadi8568 3 роки тому +1

      @Anthony José I love those cars, especially the Mazda3, but the mazda is a little on the small side unfortunately.

    • @menifo4334
      @menifo4334 3 роки тому

      Indeed, but who's the great sponsor of all?

    • @CyAn-S
      @CyAn-S 3 роки тому +4

      Out of those 2 I'd definitely pick the Mazda. After driving the new Corolla 2.0 Hybrid for 7 months last year, I don't want to drive a Toyota ever again. 2 hours in the Mazda 3 Skyactiv-X left me happier than months in the Corolla. And I prefer Automatics over Manuals (the Mazda was manual).

  • @JackKing12.
    @JackKing12. 3 роки тому +22

    Golf 7 have a better internal design than the 8.

  • @user-yd2cb1bo1f
    @user-yd2cb1bo1f 3 роки тому +9

    Golf used to be one of my favorite cars...Until now. If I had to choose between Leon and a Golf, it would be the Leon. But if you add Skoda Scala to the equation... It would be very, very difficult to choose between Leon and Scala. Unfortunately Golf lost the race with their newer model...

  • @andyt8216
    @andyt8216 3 роки тому +7

    The looks of the new gen Leon are growing on me. I wasn't impressed with the Tarraco look when I first saw it. But... I must remember that I thought the same thing when the previous model replaced the more jelly mould 2nd generation but soon realised I was wrong and SEAT was right :)

  • @PhilipJohannessen
    @PhilipJohannessen 3 роки тому +5

    We just decided on a Leon FR e-Hybrid and we're very happy with it, especially for the price.

  • @richardoconnell2825
    @richardoconnell2825 3 роки тому +7

    I've got a mk4 Seat leon fr 150bhp evo and what a car only had it 6 days I love it. 👍👍👍

    • @kwak1k
      @kwak1k 3 роки тому

      I've got one coming. Any problems with the info screen crashing?

  • @richardoconnell2825
    @richardoconnell2825 3 роки тому +11

    Leon all day I collect my mk4 on Thursday. 👍👍👍

    • @helen5242
      @helen5242 3 роки тому

      Got mine this week too

    • @kwak1k
      @kwak1k 3 роки тому

      @@helen5242 How has it been. Got one coming soon..

  • @ajlawrence8983
    @ajlawrence8983 Рік тому +4

    My wife collected her new Leon FR sport yesterday and it’s a great car. She traded in a 20 plate Leon FR and there is a big difference, we are both very pleased and hopefully I will get a drive when she isn’t looking 👍

    • @Maurice_Moss
      @Maurice_Moss 2 місяці тому

      How's she finding it?
      I've got an 18 plate Leon I'm wanting to upgrade to a new shape fr sport.

  • @ahmedslim8663
    @ahmedslim8663 3 роки тому +23

    I always loved the leon for the looks and the value. even in the old models I liked the look of the leon more.

  • @londonladjeff3575
    @londonladjeff3575 3 роки тому +1

    just bought the LEON FR etsi 150HP and its an absolute dream to drive more sensors than the space shuttle and so smooth to drive and excellent steering , so much to say about it but it has endless good points. Night time driving is like going down Oxford street at night during Xmas, ambient interior lighting makes you feel relaxed. Lots of points you didnt make is there are alarms to let you know if something is in your blind spots , also lane assist and auto braking when in cruise control and you can set the distance you want between you and the car in front. At this time l cannot fault this car in any way but only had it a month but so far so nice

  • @konyinaromolaran3484
    @konyinaromolaran3484 3 роки тому +3

    just bought my 2019 seat leon and it is a DREAM

  • @nicolaiarends3101
    @nicolaiarends3101 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve got the Atlantic Ocean blue metallic VW Golf Life 1.5 Tsi 150bhp - 2021 delivered last week. Absolutely love it. Great car and perfect for my commute on the highway everyday (40km one way to work). However somethings probably wrong with my gearbox as the 4th gear is abit tricky. I need to really push it in hardly to get inside 4th gear. Will be going back to VW next week as agreed with the seller to have a check on the gearbox. But having has the car for less than a week I’m really pleased. Quick car with low consumption. Great adaptive cruise controll that somehow knows when there’s a roundabout nearby and automatically slows down my car and tells me to change gear. Great LED lights on dark Swedish winter roads. Just feels great. Although I never tried the Seat Leon unfortunately but there was such a great offer on this one almost fully equipped with sat-nav and a 1.5 tsi 150bhp brand new car with 0km for €23900 on sale so I couldn’t resist having this one with full warranties.

    • @SuperJuvent
      @SuperJuvent 2 місяці тому

      Now this version costs 32 k ...

  • @bullmastiffx
    @bullmastiffx 3 роки тому +5

    I've got the Seat Leon 2.0ltr fr sport 190 bhp Petrol. It's been fanastic. Its got 7 speed and is DSG which is also great...I got 58 mpg on a trip to London from lancashire. The interior is nice but the seats in the front are manual Recline Which is a disappoint... Cheers 🥂

  • @JoziGB
    @JoziGB 3 роки тому +8

    Golf is available in more markets compared to the Leon. Re: Sales Numbers
    In addition People associate high sales to parts availability and reliability.

  • @reinulf656
    @reinulf656 3 роки тому +8

    The price difference for the upgrade to the 150HP and better rear suspension on the Golf was a big surprise for me. It's a shame that in this generation the seat doesn't even have a way to get the independent rear suspension.

    • @Lolstrike1
      @Lolstrike1 3 роки тому +1

      The times of independent rear suspension are long gone for anything but hot hatches. Us folk who care about such details are not the brands' targets and infotainment sells cars. Sad times. As someone with loads of VAG experience tho, equipment decisions overall are associated a lot to branding, and you wouldnt want to undercut the Golf with its own brother as group strategy.

  • @iaido01
    @iaido01 3 роки тому +2

    i had the audi A3 2018. have now the 2019 leon st fr. and all i can say is i don't miss my audi. the only noticable differends is the audi had slightly better plastic quality and the steeringwheel feld better and the chairs also kinda feld a little better, but the seat infotainment systeem is better, waaaaay more options,alcantara vs normal chairs bigger and still cheaper. it really feels like an amazing value for money kinda car

  • @darren2583
    @darren2583 3 роки тому +46

    But badge snobs will still buy the golf over the Leon.

    • @ArtyArtur
      @ArtyArtur 3 роки тому

      Second hand buy. The Golf is cheaper than a Leon ..

    • @hughfitz95
      @hughfitz95 3 роки тому +14

      @@ArtyArtur because the Leon holds it value better nowadays

    • @milanklco
      @milanklco 3 роки тому

      Golf 7.5 was better like Golf 8. This time Leon wins :) simple as that ;)

    • @slen6293
      @slen6293 3 роки тому +2

      When comparing a golf to an Audi everyone says “badge snobs will still buy the Audi over the golf”... so let’s all just buy the cheapest version for the moral victory ey??

    • @senna2
      @senna2 3 роки тому

      @@slen6293 preach

  • @CyAn-S
    @CyAn-S 3 роки тому +6

    Some say the Golf is worth it over the Leon. Some way it the other way around. It depends on what you want to spend, CAN spend and what you find important. I prefer the little Extra refinement layer the Golf gives such as:
    - Multi-link at 150 bhp
    - Some more sound insulation and comfort
    - Dash design feels more streamlined, less prominent tablet effect as a result. The tablet in the Leon kind of ruins the interior for me. Just a bit though it is still alright.
    - Electric seats as standard on Style trim (in NL). With 14 way adjustment, memory, thigh-extension, 4-way lumbar and, albeit gimmicky, massage functions. The massage is well, underwhelming but noticeable.
    - Matrix LED as option at least. and the taillights of the IQ lights look just as cool as the lightbar in the Leon. Look it up and you'll see it actually has way more detail that the Leon's.
    - Ambient lights in the back. Small thing but still.
    - Graphics on the Leon's infotainment look more modern than in the Golf, but are way busier with too many on-screen icons at all times. Golf requires more menu digging but the icons are clearer and bigger.
    - Leon has literally 0 separate buttons for shortcuts. Golf has shortcuts for AC, Drive modes, Parking stuff and drive assists. it's something...I guess?
    - Option for a light interior with some nice leatherette armrests... for no extra costs.
    All this with slightly nicer build quality and similar tech. For me It was a clear choice. But I do notice that for some the styling and the price of the Leon does a lot. And that is fine.
    IDK about Golf with DCC vs Leon so I won't write about the fun part.

  • @roystonhughes3278
    @roystonhughes3278 3 роки тому +8

    For overall quality out of both cars and road presence i choose the leon, don't get me wrong with the golf why pay more for the same car, the leon overall look way better than the golf is looking a bit out of date.

  • @oblivion4lcf
    @oblivion4lcf 2 роки тому +2

    Ι'm ordering the Leon e Hybrid next month after having diven all the VW Group offerings
    The Leon won me easilly with it's handling and general Feel.
    The infotainment system is a bit tricky as it is not user friendly when on the move with the lack of shortcut buttons but overall it was my pick as handling and road feel are a high priority and seats are the sporty in that price range of the four.
    The Scala was the next best overall bang for yout buck but was a bit passive and it leaned a lot in the corners.

  • @toinebruinsslot3026
    @toinebruinsslot3026 3 роки тому +3

    Did a brought search on a family car (As a family car with two small kids and a dog, a station is required though). Compared and had a test drive in the Leon, Octavia, Golf, Focus and 308. The Leon and Skoda were actually on the bottom of my list at first. Admitting to be brand sensible and slightly posh, who wants to be seen in a Seat or Skoda? But finance also plays a role. And at the end of the day I do want the highest level of quality for the money I put on the table. And I was literally blown away by the Leon! The interior finish with the outstanding looking seats and finish. The exterior with the led light strip on the back. And the real proof of the pudding, the drivability in the Leon was the perfect balance between comfort - when driving with the family - and fun sporty feel - when driving alone. All that combined with the huge hoot and back passengers space - bringing the Leon on the same level as the space masters of Skoda - this was the best choice on all aspects! It literally put a smile on my face. Ordered the 1.5 eTsi DSG FR ST launch edition in this exact grey colour. Added the 18” alloys as seen in many other reviews. Looking forward to drive it soon!

    • @ardaarsen
      @ardaarsen 3 роки тому

      Thanks for the input what would you go for if you had a bit more cash ?
      There are a few annoying things about Leon I want to address.
      Firstly who on earth puts ambient lighting on top of dashboard.. looks distractive.
      Secondly Leon seems to fail Moose tests even at lower speeds + good tires + sport mode. Whats the meaning of a Leon if you fail a simple test ?
      And 3rd, the torsion beam. Do you think its an advantage ? I know independent rear suspension on Golf takes the driving experience to another level at low speeds. But I think torsion could be better at high speeds ?
      Also sound insulation seems better on other cars. Do you agree with it ?
      By the way my heart desires an Octavia but the darn thing is too long (4.65). And I usually drive in non-urbanized areas and beaches. People recommend me Captur or Karoq but I want a premium-ish car haha..

    • @hughfitz95
      @hughfitz95 3 роки тому

      @@ardaarsenplenty of cars have had ambient lighting in the dash and it not be an issue.
      The Leon never failed the moose test, it simply didn't perform as well as the previous Leon, but thats probably because the previous leon they tested was an FR trim and the new leon was the base model, i sure that would make a difference in performance in such a test

    • @toinebruinsslot3026
      @toinebruinsslot3026 3 роки тому

      @@ardaarsen If you want a SUV/crossover style I would never ever go for the Captur. I would suggest the Seat Tarracco FR. More money on the bank? For pure pleasure the Cupra Formentor. But you must be a die hard and not fancy brand type (no judgement, I actually like both.) Even more 💰? X3 BMW has grown to be an amazing car. Even more 💴 💵?? What are you doing here?
      BTW drove the Skoda Octavia just after the test drive of the Leon. Returned it after 10 minutes. I was very bored.

  • @Bingbong_btw
    @Bingbong_btw 3 роки тому +4

    Test drove both the Leon and the golf bought the Leon easy decision cheaper looks better and great spec on the fr models

  • @MichaelBrown-pw7pp
    @MichaelBrown-pw7pp 3 роки тому +10

    Need to line up your speech with the video. Leon looks much the better of the two cars.

  • @AKA001
    @AKA001 3 роки тому +13

    4:28 the most exciting item of these two cars... I loved the first gen Leon, owned a few Golfs even. But the Leon looks like a previous generation Mazda 3, especially from the side, and the Golf has become... well... even more boring. I never thought that was possible.

    • @ACS607
      @ACS607 3 роки тому +1

      The new Mazda 3 looks like a first gen SEAT Leon just updated.

    • @alexanderschmidt8305
      @alexanderschmidt8305 3 роки тому

      thats why It was so hard for me to decide between the two . Finally went for the 2017 seat leon

  • @1979SFC
    @1979SFC 3 роки тому +7

    Ill take the SEAT leon every day of the week..

  • @taker1519
    @taker1519 3 роки тому +7

    Definitely the Leon

  • @tadejsster571
    @tadejsster571 4 місяці тому +2

    2 days in, frickin' love my new Spaniard

  • @sammyt3514
    @sammyt3514 3 роки тому +1

    Not sure what went into the head of the German designers when coming up with the new Golf but it's certainly a step or two behind in looks compared to the previous generation, inside and out imo. The Leon's looks are on another level!

  • @97I30T
    @97I30T 3 роки тому +5

    That's kind of ironic because Matt from Carwow says the new Golf is better than the new Leon. I think he's wrong though.

    • @tomeastman6634
      @tomeastman6634 3 роки тому +3

      Seat could make the best car in the world and he would find a way to make the vw better I feel

  • @kwak1k
    @kwak1k 3 роки тому +2

    Just ordered a fr sport. Now hearing about software issues that crash the infotainment screen. Any owners experienced this?

  • @mahbuburrahman3816
    @mahbuburrahman3816 2 роки тому +1

    Leon FR sport is brilliant

  • @thoughtfuldog5424
    @thoughtfuldog5424 3 роки тому +5

    Would be interesting to see the new Skoda (Octavia) in this mix too, all VW brands against each other.

    • @nielsdebakker3283
      @nielsdebakker3283 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, I still see the scala as a smaller car. The octavia has the same underpinngs as these two.

  • @cyclemartin4073
    @cyclemartin4073 3 роки тому +2

    Very nice , think the seat is nicer looking
    I think I’d get frustrated with the button less dashboard in the longevity of things once the novelty has worn away, you can’t be tagging the arse out of it and Looking to turn up the Heater or something silly, you’d have to put your Heater on at the traffic lights no I don’t like that idea , but it’s a nice looking car and clever tech just not for a car

  • @pawelgaj
    @pawelgaj 3 роки тому +2

    I wonder if Seat pays as much attention to the rust prevention. Of all car brands i've researched VW does most to preserve underbodies of their cars. I've used my C3 Picasso for 10 years and would use it even longer but the rust denies all other strengths of the car - what a pity...

  • @SM-co3bv
    @SM-co3bv 2 роки тому +3

    Here in Spain I just bought the Seat Leon Xcellence, 2.0tdi 150, DSG, estate. 23500€.
    The Golf with the same spec is 34000 and the Skoda Octavia 33000.
    It was an easy decision.

    • @jarokofrit
      @jarokofrit 2 роки тому

      great price... in slovakia that cost about 27000€ , but still the price is much better than Golf or Octavia

    • @SM-co3bv
      @SM-co3bv 2 роки тому

      @@jarokofrit the price has now gone up in Spain. To buy the same car would cost you 28000. The Octavia and Golf between 34000 and 36000. 1 year wait to buy the Octavia.

  • @phillip8102
    @phillip8102 3 роки тому +3

    I'd choose the Golf, at least with the 1.5 150bhp you'd get an independent rear suspension set up.

  • @andrewgovan1872
    @andrewgovan1872 3 роки тому +10

    Love my 2016 Leon fr and really like the look of new one

  • @parvindermander5664
    @parvindermander5664 3 роки тому +10

    Golf looks ugly on the front and too chunky on the back, both a bit bland looking.

  • @reverseshell25
    @reverseshell25 3 роки тому +3

    The have that seat belt holders from their first generations car :D

  • @exarder1377
    @exarder1377 3 роки тому +7

    Leon! Currently own a 2018 business style and absolutely loving it!

    • @robloxfan4271
      @robloxfan4271 2 роки тому

      I have a 2019 xccilence lux, packed full of tech for much less

  • @mairenared
    @mairenared 3 роки тому +3

    Bought a third generation Leon back in March. Got a great deal as they had just announced that the new fourth generation Leon would be coming soon and the dealer was keen to shift the "old" model. 15,800€ with 5 year warranty, 5 years free maintenance and fully comp insurance for 300€. It's got the 130 bhp 1.5 TSI petrol engine in it and it's a joy to drive. Loads of great safety features too with rear view camera, front and rear sensors and a lane drift detector which keeps you from falling asleep at the wheel. Highly recommended.

    • @KING0SISQO
      @KING0SISQO 3 роки тому

      Dry good deal. I sort of miss my mk3 1.4 fr. It was quicker than the one in this video. More power and more torque.

    • @jerryrawlings8885
      @jerryrawlings8885 2 роки тому

      Joe Cooper Hi Joe I'm looking into a mk 3 1.5 like yours are they sturdy any sqeaks and rattles and whats the road noise like is it much more noticeable than a Golf? many thanks.

    • @mairenared
      @mairenared 2 роки тому

      @@jerryrawlings8885 Hi Jerry. I'm very pleased with mine. I haven't driven the equivalent Golf but have ridden in several and don't think it's worth paying the extra just to have the VW badge on the front. Mine is well built and has no rattles or squeaks. I like all the built-in safety features but am not convinced that the stop-start mechanism is worth the extra wear on the battery and starter motor so I always disable it. Mine has the 130 bhp 1.5 TSI petrol engine which is fast enough for me but if you have a greater need for speed, the 150 bhp FR version is worth looking at. Thirstier and more expensive to insure but it will bring out the boy racer in you!

    • @jerryrawlings8885
      @jerryrawlings8885 2 роки тому +1

      @@mairenared Thank you for your insight it has put my mind at ease off to the Seat dealership I go .

  • @nikolaidiqnov6801
    @nikolaidiqnov6801 3 роки тому +2

    The new Seat lineup is great looking. But who told the VAG engineers that removing physical buttons for climate control is a good idea? I do hope this trend goes away soon. There is a good reason why those buttons were physical up to this moment. This technology is not new- manufacturers could have changed to capacitive years ago but it is a lot harder to operate while moving. Now, they are doing it because of cost cutting.

  • @SeymourCake710
    @SeymourCake710 3 роки тому +4

    Great Review, Leon all the way.

  • @neilstait7459
    @neilstait7459 3 роки тому +5

    No idea why it was not mentioned that the Seat has park assist and metallic paint as standard and the golf has ACC as standard

    • @_TrueDesire_
      @_TrueDesire_ 3 роки тому

      differs from market to market.

  • @AndreasHamberg
    @AndreasHamberg 3 роки тому +5

    Just bought the new plugin hybrid version of the Leon FR. Couldn’t find any other sensible alternatives that could compete in price, fuel economy or performance.

    • @orhn
      @orhn 3 роки тому

      Hello. Does the car have a charge socket? Also do you need to charge the car or it charges from the petrol engine?

    • @AndreasHamberg
      @AndreasHamberg 3 роки тому

      @@orhn you can use both or just on or the other. Yes it comes with a charge socket.

  • @bcm-n7244
    @bcm-n7244 10 місяців тому

    So the LEON KOMBI for example won't get the rear multi-link-suspension at the back even if you buy it with with a 2.0 TDI 150 hp engine ?

  • @andreasmalten7208
    @andreasmalten7208 2 роки тому +1

    Me and my wife are buying the Golf 8 GTE soon. My whole family has golf. So I’m a bit biased 😂 But we are taking the Leon for a test drive first. Just to be sure

  • @stephenjenkins10
    @stephenjenkins10 3 роки тому +7

    The Seat Leon for me without a doubt. Fairly similar performance, but the Seat Leon is cheaper than the VW Golf and better looking. That’s pretty much always been the case between various generations of Golf and Leon. The Leon always looks better.

  • @sixty94lyf
    @sixty94lyf 3 роки тому +1

    wife thinks im crazy about the Leon. Got my new Leon on order its a looonnnggg wait, having to part with my Seat Leon Copa 2011 coz of ULEZ :(. Would have kept the car until it was no longer running though. Never let me down even once. Will miss her.

  • @deelanaS
    @deelanaS 3 роки тому +11

    I really do think the Mazda 3 has the best interior in this class and its safe to say it will be more reliable than a VW/Seat.

    • @cameronm4201
      @cameronm4201 3 роки тому +3

      The Mazda 3 has been recalled 6 times in Australia

    • @AntJoseph_
      @AntJoseph_ 3 роки тому

      It definitely does, Deelana

    • @deelanaS
      @deelanaS 3 роки тому +1

      Cameron M The last gen 3?

  • @tubetotto
    @tubetotto 3 роки тому

    Did you drive the Leon at night? I've heard complaints about Leon's ambient lights, that are dazzling, especially the ones in the front.
    Also heard a similar complaint about the BLISS indicators now brought in to the inside.

    • @leatherob99
      @leatherob99 3 роки тому

      Not dazzling at all. I run a Leon Xcellence Lux and its a total dream to drive, night and day.

  • @aydnonurgercek7107
    @aydnonurgercek7107 3 роки тому +1

    which one is quieter?

  • @AWhileHanlin
    @AWhileHanlin 3 роки тому +14

    I choose the older Seat Leon above these 2 new cars.

  • @nkaloyanov
    @nkaloyanov Рік тому +1

    We can't compare Golf and Leon. They're similar yet VERY different. For example, I own a Golf MK7 Highline with lots of extras. When I test drove the new Leon, something felt..lacking. I mean, it's LOVELY. I love it, don't get me wrong. I agree that VW makes boring vehicles. That's totally true. But sometimes, it's what makes us choose Volkswagen - reliability, attention to detail, interior quality, and decent price.
    And if we talk about value for money, i'd pick Skoda Scala every day! That boot space is out of the world.

  • @sofianechaib5102
    @sofianechaib5102 3 роки тому +4

    Without hesitation, the Leon

  • @MinecraftChester
    @MinecraftChester 3 роки тому +3

    Currently got a Golf as a courtesy car. The Speed limiter and ACC controls are bonkers complicated. Not only are the steering wheel controls all over the place, Select speed limiter, click OK and it toggles ACC on and off.

    • @danielrussell446
      @danielrussell446 3 роки тому +2

      It’s no different to the controls on the golf 7.5 I’ve had no problem adjusting but if you have come from another car I can understand it

    • @MinecraftChester
      @MinecraftChester 3 роки тому

      @@danielrussell446 I'm used to a stick with a button. Light on = Speed limit mode, light off, cruise. Forward, cancel (in both), back, set or resume (both) up and down, up and down speed. I like my tech simple, especially while driving. I found with some buttons on the right (up/down) controlling a more complicated system because of the adaptive aspect that's mostly on the left of the steering wheel, buttons didn't do what I expected them to, and when I'd finally got limit mode selected and clicked OK, the ACC toggled on/off, not the speed limiter. Sure I'd suss it over time, but intuitive is isn't. Had it a week and gave up. Would read the book, but it goes back tomorrow.

  • @Handle-bar
    @Handle-bar 3 роки тому +1

    Got the new leon fr a month ago it’s a decent car but definitely getting it mapped for a little more power , always liked an had golfs too but not driven the last couple of models

    • @tomeastman6634
      @tomeastman6634 3 роки тому +1

      Which engine did you get? I test drive a 130 and it felt quite gutless

    • @Handle-bar
      @Handle-bar 3 роки тому

      @@tomeastman6634 definitely no sweet spot in the 130 through the gears . I dunno why they made it tbh 🤣 it is quite gutless definitely. It was in normal not sport when I drove it an not sure how much difference that makes .

  • @uidr
    @uidr 3 роки тому +1

    Writing from Turkey, Seat leon 1.0 base model starting at 220.000 Turkish liras and our minimum wage 2850 turkish liras.
    so we can buy like 20 years a new car. regards

  • @leeroyrupere
    @leeroyrupere 3 роки тому

    The Leon is nice and stylish but some of us are brand loyalist, would go for the Golf. MK7 was a knock out side the park.

  • @Undisputed_King
    @Undisputed_King Рік тому

    Drove both. Hate the interiors but I like the way the Leon looks. I'm getting a mk7 golf instead.

  • @stephenwakeman3074
    @stephenwakeman3074 3 роки тому

    During the interior drive shots for both vehicles, the audio is out of sync.

  • @buddhimanrahman4583
    @buddhimanrahman4583 Рік тому

    As a back pain sufferer I can say nothing is better than VW. Tried many cars but golf is the most comfortable and it stays comfortable for the longest.

  • @TheMuffsta2442
    @TheMuffsta2442 3 роки тому +3

    The Golf 1500 eTSI is brilliant to drive and quick off the mark, love it.

  • @ChrisR90
    @ChrisR90 3 роки тому +6

    Leon!! 🚗💨💨

  • @RFW1979
    @RFW1979 2 роки тому

    Always like and driven Golf in the past, now have a lexus ct200. But prefer the look of the seat personally 😁

  • @ST-ur7oh
    @ST-ur7oh 3 роки тому +9

    Octavia - nicer looking nicer interior

  • @forza223bowe5
    @forza223bowe5 3 роки тому +2

    I love the Mk7 Golf

  • @danielrussell446
    @danielrussell446 3 роки тому +5

    Great video what car
    I have stayed with the golf and traded up from the golf 7.5 to golf 8 and I have been very impressed with it 1000 miles in to ownership
    The build is equivalent to my old 7.5 and this includes the interior and the touch screen is slick in use and it doesn’t take long to use the functions when you are driving it regularly a lot of it is familiar from the old one
    The lag on the touchscreen has been corrected with the software update mine is faultless now
    I have been pleased with the economy on the 1.5 150 tsi engine over the 130 I had before
    The interior of the Style or R Line would be a better comparison you have the Golf Life against the Leon FR so base against mid range

    • @CyAn-S
      @CyAn-S 3 роки тому +1

      Same here. The updates have fixed my laggy screen as well.

    • @por925
      @por925 3 роки тому +1

      Totally agree with you, moved from 7.5 myself and much prefer it. The 7.5 is dated in comparison in my opinion and yeah it’s quite obvious he’s driving a base version golf here so not a great comparison.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice

  • @dariuszrysak1133
    @dariuszrysak1133 3 роки тому +2

    I would choose Leon over Golf.

  • @xXxBo5sANaCxXx
    @xXxBo5sANaCxXx 3 роки тому +1

    If u want sporty driver go for leon, if u want more relaxed "boring" driver go for golf

  • @steni.1224
    @steni.1224 3 роки тому +4

    Leon! Picking up my new Leon next week!!! Love the looks of it! Can’t wait to get it!

  • @GowthamV07
    @GowthamV07 3 роки тому +3

    Seat is also Owned by VW.

  • @JentusPro
    @JentusPro 3 роки тому

    The Leon really looks better then the Golf, and it is cheaper, and in our country Leon always has more engines to chose from rather than in a Golf.
    I own right now 2016 Leon FR 1.8l TSI DSG7 and i love it. After 4 years with my Leon 2016, maybe it is time to change for the new one )), if yes so only the FR 2.0TSI 192bhp, this will be my choice, if it will be available in our country of course ))

  • @vulpim7768
    @vulpim7768 3 роки тому +2

    Is looking more nice than golf i se it
    Very nice car and when you drive is more emotional

  • @Froggygaming205
    @Froggygaming205 3 роки тому +2

    Just ordered the new estate 150 FR. Compared that with Golf and new Octavia, it was a no brainier.

    • @ardaarsen
      @ardaarsen 3 роки тому

      Make sure you dont kill all the moose on roads.

  • @mrgreatauk
    @mrgreatauk 3 роки тому +3

    I hate all these new touchscreen-only interfaces... physical buttons and dials are just so much more intuitive and quicker to use.

  • @matteogrison4028
    @matteogrison4028 3 роки тому +1

    Again, a Leon FR compared to the base Golf and not the R-Line Golf. There are too many differences in the R-Line dude, come on

  • @KARFIVE
    @KARFIVE 3 роки тому +3

    Definitely the Leon!

  • @DJ_CJ_NL
    @DJ_CJ_NL Рік тому +1

    It's a close one, but i'm going for the golf in a couple of months. want that 1.5 150hp version in the golf that is just more value for money for me.

    • @DJ_CJ_NL
      @DJ_CJ_NL 11 місяців тому +1

      Well, in the end i went with the leon.... just more fun to drive and much better looking

  • @runawayronnie
    @runawayronnie 3 роки тому +2

    had several cars from all the VW Group brands of late, VW used to be my default choice but as reporter says, it's not a case of SEAT upping the game rather VW has gone downmarket. The boot lip and uneven load floor on the LEON means I'd never buy it. The materials used on the Mk8 Golf are below par. What would I buy? The new Skoda Octavia shames both these cars.

    • @amrdel2730
      @amrdel2730 2 роки тому

      But the octavia doesnt offer a hatchback like fabia ! Thats a shame

    • @youraveragejoe1
      @youraveragejoe1 2 роки тому

      @@amrdel2730 there’s the Skoda Scala, but then you have to put up with the looks of the thing…

  • @David-np4vo
    @David-np4vo 3 роки тому +1

    I have the Golf mkVIII 1.5tsi 150 life only issues I had so far is the electric hold it stick at times Leon nice still tho...

    • @forza223bowe5
      @forza223bowe5 3 роки тому +1

      Needs a proper manual handbrake

    • @mikegreig7825
      @mikegreig7825 3 роки тому +1

      Used to happen in my old golf 7.5 , same part

  • @Horizon301.
    @Horizon301. 3 роки тому +37

    The new golf is tragic. Quality has gone to 💩 and the technology is evidently worse than the M7.5 which had a brilliant infotainment system.

    • @MoroccoGamer
      @MoroccoGamer 3 роки тому

      indeed

    • @v-gun9735
      @v-gun9735 3 роки тому

      Volkswagen have blown their budget on the 3 electric car.

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 3 роки тому +1

      V-GUN maybe, every since diesel gate though they have started cost cutting. It’s evident across all the newer VW models since 2016 and the redesigned Audi’s. As such I now consider BMW to have superior quality.

    • @stuartfrost6464
      @stuartfrost6464 3 роки тому +4

      Totally not true. Just moved from a MK7 R-line to a MK 8 R-Line and it's a definite jump up in all areas. I've had Golfs since MK 5 and this is by far the best so far.

    • @v-gun9735
      @v-gun9735 3 роки тому +7

      @@stuartfrost6464 So are you telling me that every reviewer is either (a) lying or (b) blind. I’ve watched at least 5 UK based channels that have said quality has taken a drop.

  • @TheAnelFro
    @TheAnelFro Місяць тому

    Got the Leon Excellence Sportstourer, excellent car!!

  • @crystaloffrost
    @crystaloffrost 3 роки тому +3

    The main difference between VW and Seat/Skoda is below the hood, higher quality sound isoation, higher quality suspension and just everything is put together better and stronger nothing wobbles or makes noises.

    • @mikegreig7825
      @mikegreig7825 3 роки тому +1

      Having had a golf and Leon don’t agree, can’t tell the difference in interior quality and my Leon doesn’t make any noises it’s not meant to....

  • @vespa7265
    @vespa7265 3 роки тому +2

    IMO the rear end looks like an Astra.