Radahn initially might have agreed to marry Miquella when they were younger but then essentially got Miquella upset that his lord brother walked back on his promise to get freaky with his half-brother. In other words, Miquella is a Miquellester and also Marika is a terrible parent but that's nothing new.
its amusing that the 2 arguably most "evil looking" bosses, mohg and messmer, are just victims of Marika and Miquella. i am now a messmer (simp)athyzer
Correction, while it's not implied that Messmer is a triplet of Miquella and Malenia, it's implied that he's the first born child of Marika and Radagon, before any of the others. Also inplies that Melina is also Marika's daughter.
@@moosefr_ actually, there's a HEAVY implication. Messmer's kindling, the item we need to brunch the Scadutree, details how Messmer has a younger sister and, like her, Messmer dreamed of fire. There is only ONE character in the base game and the dlc that has dreams of fire, and that is Melina. There's also no implications that Malenia and Miquella were part of a triplet, just twins. Again, Messmer is very likely born before the twins.
@@colvamoon6962 thats fair but since we dont have any cannon conformation on melina i didnt include her and just added the closest thing that could be considerd cannon, i blame miyazaki
@moosefr_ true. Miyazaki loves to give us some answer, more implications, and even more speculations. Then again, that's one reason I love these games.
@@colvamoon6962 man it is true but at least they could give one friking dialog about messmer and melena.I did dlc before fire giant just talk melena in dlc AND all i get is dialog of Mountaintops of the Giants (i only go there for Sacred Tears after starting dlc)
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On the image at 3:07 - this was a very popular speculation pre-DLC, and I mean it's not necessarily wrong. But imo the Smoldering Butterfly belongs to Melina since we find the Black Pyrefly in the Land of Shadow which seem highly associated with Messmer.
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"Unnecessary incest" As someone who has consumed a lot of Japanese media over the years. This isn't just a Fromsoft thing, it's a not uncommon in fiction from Japan. For some reason.
@@Americanbadashh dark souls 3 literally has implied incest with lothric and Loren the brothers. and also I remember an item description in bloodborne that involves something with incest but I can't remember what
But you do realize that Elden Ring and the souls games prior were about being freaky in the first place? Why is the incest unnecessary but the bodyhorror isn't? I mean everyone has their special disgusts and some aren't the biggest fans of eye plucking but can have a bit of arm cutting etc. All of these are disgusting but that's what creates the atmosphere of these games. And you can possibly cross a line somewhere but these incest themes Fromsoft likes to explore don't show anything remotely sexual so it's quite low on the icky horror scale...
Elden freaky
Elden zesty 💀
Radahn initially might have agreed to marry Miquella when they were younger but then essentially got Miquella upset that his lord brother walked back on his promise to get freaky with his half-brother.
In other words, Miquella is a Miquellester and also Marika is a terrible parent but that's nothing new.
Miquella the freak
its amusing that the 2 arguably most "evil looking" bosses, mohg and messmer, are just victims of Marika and Miquella. i am now a messmer (simp)athyzer
Messmer still committed genocide
What if instead of Elden ring we called it freaky ring
Elden ring of it was good 😔
Correction, it wouldn't be a George R.R. Martin story if it didn't have unnecessary incest.
miyazaki as well, dark souls and bloodborne both have it. George R.R. Martin and miyazaki are 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
Correction, while it's not implied that Messmer is a triplet of Miquella and Malenia, it's implied that he's the first born child of Marika and Radagon, before any of the others. Also inplies that Melina is also Marika's daughter.
We have zero information on Melina from the DLC since we got a lot more on messmer it's more likely he's the triplet
@@moosefr_ actually, there's a HEAVY implication. Messmer's kindling, the item we need to brunch the Scadutree, details how Messmer has a younger sister and, like her, Messmer dreamed of fire. There is only ONE character in the base game and the dlc that has dreams of fire, and that is Melina.
There's also no implications that Malenia and Miquella were part of a triplet, just twins. Again, Messmer is very likely born before the twins.
@@colvamoon6962 thats fair but since we dont have any cannon conformation on melina i didnt include her and just added the closest thing that could be considerd cannon, i blame miyazaki
@moosefr_ true. Miyazaki loves to give us some answer, more implications, and even more speculations. Then again, that's one reason I love these games.
@@colvamoon6962 man it is true but at least they could give one friking dialog about messmer and melena.I did dlc before fire giant just talk melena in dlc AND all i get is dialog of Mountaintops of the Giants (i only go there for Sacred Tears after starting dlc)
I fw this heavy this actually made me understand the lore
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I thought Miquella was at the battle of Aonia? Doesn’t Freyja say that Miquella saved her in that battle?
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I should've watch this before any dlc lore video
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On the image at 3:07 - this was a very popular speculation pre-DLC, and I mean it's not necessarily wrong. But imo the Smoldering Butterfly belongs to Melina since we find the Black Pyrefly in the Land of Shadow which seem highly associated with Messmer.
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Bruh elden ring is weird?
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Thankyou for that...can u make a complete edern ring Lore explanation video like this one... because everyone other video is shit and I didn't understand one bit but your style is something that Like...to please make one
Elden freaky ring
"Unnecessary incest"
As someone who has consumed a lot of Japanese media over the years. This isn't just a Fromsoft thing, it's a not uncommon in fiction from Japan. For some reason.
@@Americanbadashh dark souls 3 literally has implied incest with lothric and Loren the brothers. and also I remember an item description in bloodborne that involves something with incest but I can't remember what
@@moosefr_ I didn't say it wasn't there. I said its more than just Fromsoft doing it.
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But you do realize that Elden Ring and the souls games prior were about being freaky in the first place? Why is the incest unnecessary but the bodyhorror isn't? I mean everyone has their special disgusts and some aren't the biggest fans of eye plucking but can have a bit of arm cutting etc. All of these are disgusting but that's what creates the atmosphere of these games. And you can possibly cross a line somewhere but these incest themes Fromsoft likes to explore don't show anything remotely sexual so it's quite low on the icky horror scale...
i honestly couldn't understand anything.
where is the damn ring?
Damn, Godwyn the only good one, and he was killed bfeorr the Lands Between could corrupt him.
Messmer so baba 😍🤑🤑