Elden Rings Most INSANE Quest is still UNSOLVED!! - Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- This quest is still unsolved from the initial release of the game.
The Golden Order has been broken.
Rise, Tarnished, and be guided by grace to brandish the power of the Elden Ring and become an Elden Lord in the Lands Between.
In the Lands Between ruled by Queen Marika the Eternal, the Elden Ring, the source of the Erdtree, has been shattered.
Marika's offspring, demigods all, claimed the shards of the Elden Ring known as the Great Runes, and the mad taint of their newfound strength triggered a war: The Shattering. A war that meant abandonment by the Greater Will.
And now the guidance of grace will be brought to the Tarnished who were spurned by the grace of gold and exiled from the Lands Between. Ye dead who yet live, your grace long lost, follow the path to the Lands Between beyond the foggy sea to stand before the Elden Ring.
And become the Elden Lord.
Journey through the Lands Between, a new fantasy world created by Hidetaka Miyazaki, creator of the influential DARK SOULS video game series, and George R. R. Martin, author of The New York Times best-selling fantasy series, A Song of Ice and Fire.
Unravel the mysteries of the Elden Ring’s power. Encounter adversaries with profound backgrounds, characters with their own unique motivations for helping or hindering your progress, and fearsome creatures.
The final reward is you get to kill Patches for wasting your time.
@@jonathanprince707 If you kill him, he doesn't give you the emote though....
@@ProjectOrionGaming kill him after you got the emote that is the only way to get his armor set, which imo look pretty fashionable especially on female character.
I'd never kill my best pal. Been with us since Demon's Souls.
@@tawan6921 Yeah, the top with the warrior bottom makes it look like ultra mini skirt. 😅
@@lonelyshpee7873 he is the best pal
The true reward is the ability to squat like Patches
i mean, it was like that on dark souls 3 tho!!!
Maybe do the Patches squat for Tannith? Show her what she's missing?
The so called slav squat
@@666Kacahis heels are touching the ground
@@SyntheticShinobiThat’s what makes it a proper slav squat. If his heels didn’t touch the ground he’d be a western spy.
While there are some elements of this quest that I don't understand (Why is Patches at the Shaded Castle? How should the player know to look for him there? Why does he fake his own death?), I do believe it is actually finished. Patches' allegiance to Rykard and the Volcano Manor was secondary to his devotion to Tanith herself. He admired her for who she was as an individual, and the castanets are a symbol of what she meant to him. He wants to return them to her so she can remember who she is. Sadly it is too late for Tanith, for the woman Patches admired is fully lost to the allure of the great serpent, just like Rykard before her.
And so, having learned absolutely nothing from his journey across the Lands Between, Patches' story ends in the exact same place it began. I'm sure his odyssey will continue in Fromsoft's next title.
i agree with that, and i think if there was more to the quest it would have been found, in the code if not naturally...
@@Bunny_Aoifethat's what I'm saying. People can literally see how everything interacts and they spent 3 years now looking
I am honestly surprised that he wasn’t in Armored Core 6. Considering Patches did INDEED originate from an Armored Core game.
they should just add a ancient dragon smithing stone/somber to his inventory and call that a finished quest.
Tbh I always felt like patches was just trolling you with the castanets and that it was kind of a playful jab at those kinds of quests. Realistically, giving someone a mundane item wouldn't cause a massive shift in their personality. I think he just wanted a clean break from volcano manor now that Rykard was dead and since you were technically the last member of the recusants...
This kinda reminds me of how you can propose to Queen Annalise of the Vilebloods in Bloodborne, using a special ring you find. She turns you down tho, so that plotline just deadends there
It was worth a try ;_;
Just need to give her enough Blood Dregs... Been giving them to her for almost 10 years... anyday now...
How about this: the quest is finished. The NPC just refuse the item. Sometimes you have to think in terms of storytelling instead of mechanics and reflect on what it means.
What is the storytelling here then?
@@23Butanedione Tanith doesn't give a shit and Patches's one selfless act in the game where he straight up nearly died was basically meaningless lol
@@23Butanedione Also she doesn't care about her old life, she's dedicated to her current one.
@@palmitofreak what are the dancing castanets for
@@23Butanedionedancing
I think the real unaolved quest was Kenneth Height’s Quest where he says he’ll return to his castle from Stormveil and he just never does.
He did return to Stormveil castle tho
Wrong
@@arkbeetlegaming return to Fort Height after being at Stormveil
hes part of nepheli quest, he eventually returns to stormveil
@@overlorddante He is in Stormviel castle after that.
I always thought that was the point of it, the narrative unsettling bit you mentioned, and just an unrequited lament from Patches' heart to a woman he loved at a distance. You bringing his totem of nostalgia and hope into a scene of gruesome, near-cannibalistic insanity is a pretty cool juxtaposition. I like the silent way this quest ends. And if I am to believe the things known about Miyazaki, it is very intentional.
@@summonedmonkey You may be correct, it might just be an obscure way of telling the story of how patches secretly loved her. Great observation!
Patches be secretly gooning to her from the corner😢
IMO the point of the final bit of the quest is to point the player into looking for where Tanith has gone. Most people who don’t read guides will just assume she’s poofed from the game. This gives the player an opportunity to kill her, then her knight. With the final reward being an incantation.
Patches himself is always just a shady vendor in all his games with the exception of DS3.
He doesn’t sell anything in Bloodborne either. He gives some advice at a few points, gives the obligatory shove off a cliff (since his spindly legs aren’t strong enough to kick you), and at the end of his questline you can get an emote and a nifty rune (2nd best blood echoes boost +15%)
@@joels5150 he does become a vendor in Bloodborne. You can find him in chalice dungeons.
Big bro found the new Pendant.
Can't wait for the new slew of people trying to decipher the way to use the pendant in DS all over again.
I somehow missed the step when he kicked me off the cliff telling me to stay off the Volcano Manor.
Pretty easy to miss. I didn’t come across that cutscene until about my 7th playthrough. I just got used to getting to the Volcano Manor by having Raya teleport me. Once you talk to Tanith, save at the Manor, and go to the hallway, Patches will be there, which cuts out that event if you go back to the spot on the hillside.
Logically, once you’ve already been to the manor, there’s no reason for him to give you the kick/warning not to go there 🤷♀️
What's crazy is I just saw the light up stones yesterday I couldn't see they were leading somewhere tho
The castanets look like the pendant from ds1. The quest is finished, it's just Miyazaki being a troll
The strange thing about it is that it feels like there's a connection between the castanets and the Dancer's gear that you get in the DLC. It's just not quite there.
Tanith is from the same country as the dancer, presumed to have been a dancer previously. I believe it mentions this on her helmet.
The Emote IS the reward. Not every quest HAS to give you some big epic reward. Remember. This is Patches. He is MEANT to mess with you. So the fact that after such a long roundabout quest, you only get an emote makes perfect sense. Y'all looking to hard for answers to questions that aren't there. Lol
That's TRUE, sometimes it's JUST like THAT. You GET it.
You can kill lady Tanith and then fight the Crucible knight who follows her.
well, the last part where he appears at shaded castle was added in a patch maybe like 2 or 3 weeks after launch, same with the jarburg quest and the end of the house oslow guy's quest in jarlsburg
@@purplekush8553 You are correct 😀 it was added in a later patch, which is what makes me think it will be completed in an upcoming patch hopefully!
Actually I finished the house oslow quest weeks before the DLC released.
@@ProjectOrionGaming yeeah, I do really hope they do as well!
@@shredenvain7 yeah, they released it in a patch after the launch of the base game, adding a couple of other quests, as well as adding a couple of npcs to summon for different bosses that were not there at launch
Hence the name patches 😏
When Patches called tarnished a beggar, after killing a Tragoth, I've had this stupid thought: "What if we just forget about the reward and continue with the questline?"
Will patches put use to the candlestick?
Or will he remind about it somehow later?
I came back to the game due to the DLC and thinking patches had died from his wounds back at the shaded castle only to go check his cave and find him alive almost 2 years later. It kind of made me happy, so I left him alive.
he finally cared about someone other then himself and it was one sided, which is life, im glad patches got to love someone other then himself even if it was sad, its just the growing of the character since armored core
He goes back to his cave and sales again like nothing happened….
If you equip Ranah's set and swords and, go back to Tanith, look what happens. I won't spoilt it to you.
Spoil it bro. I've killed Tanith already and don't want to start an new game + for something I'm not sure about.
Top quality trolling. You forgot to tell them use dance.
@@vsevolodpoddyh8191 Thank you, I do my best.
Patches is the gullible one for thinking Tanith would notice him.
Perhaps the true reward of the quest were the friends we made along the way.
I mean the dancer's castanets does technically serve a purpose, unlocking new dialogue, and it feels kinda fitting that a questline of the Patches's would have no real reward
Patches is a simp (for Tanith) and even in her final breath she still rejects him because she simps for Rykard who only crave powaaa (devouring gods). It was a full-blown circle Simps Emporium. He doesn't want you to come to the Manor because it will risk you killing Rykard (and Tanith). Patches is a Tarnished, he knew you better. But still he keep throwing hard missions in hoping for you to get killed or give up (or forgot).
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
@@Leotheleprachaun Sorry to burst your bubble snowflake.
@@Leotheleprachaun ni!
Castanets used by dancers from foreign lands. That only makes me think of the Dancer of Ranah that is on the DLC. I messed up patches quest line in my game, and also already beat the Dancer, so I cannot try this. I think It could be worth a try, to bring it and try giving it to her, but who knows.
Mmmh, what if you go to Tanith wearing the dress you get from the dancer, haha,
I also have been thinking of doing this. I have the castanets, the dress, and I never went in to see Tanith eating Rykard.
I would try this right now if my pc didn't have a dead power supply RIP. Can someone please do this and report?
@bigdee8469 if you do it, tell us if anything happens
I got the castanets, went to rykard's, equipped the whole dancer stuff and weapon and talked to Tanith, got the same dialogues, gave her the castanets, and then nothing. She is still telling she's needs time to eat his head. I rest at the grace and make time pass like 10 days, nothing more....
I then choose to kill her and her bodyguard, but I'm still wondering, is there any moment where she finishes eating his head ?
I think the castanets disappeared from my bag when I gave it to her. Killing her doesn't let you get the castanets back.
It would've been cool if Patches appeared in DLC again to continue his storyline, like he did in Dark souls 3: Ringed City DLC where he had amnesia
After encountering him again in his cave he does sell something “new” the fan daggers are UNLIMITED.
Daggers are useful for consistently keeping the stance poise of an enemy low. The fan daggers are spread with each use making it hard for enemies to dodge them.
But you can also KILL him, take is bell bearing, and take it to the twin sisters at round table so you can buy them anytime you want.
But finally you can teleport to the shaded castle and find him at his dying last breath and you can pick up him bell bearing there.
That's just the end of the quest bro. Bringing Tanith the castanets sends Patches to his final (first) location, leaving him right back where he started when you first met him
Except that’s not required. I had already killed Tanith when Patches gave me the castanets to give to her. He still went back to the cave. I think you just need to meet him there and get the castanets in order for him to move and set up shop.
@@firey5 if she's still alive he won't appear in the cave until you visit her. I'd like there to be more secrets to be found but I'm not holding my breath. Dataminers have already picked everything apart and it doesn't look like there's any additional content that hasn't been found
I had no idea you could find him after volcano manor, TIL
He opens up shop in the cave if you revisit right after, or just quit out and reload the game. There is additional dialogue, and and additional trap chest that transports you right next to some Rune Bears, he'll give the "calm down" gesture if you return afterwards (he'll give this one later). Also if you attack him 3 times in the cave with a weak weapon he'll turn hostile again; after he gets you under half health he'll give you the "grovel for mercy" gesture. You can use this to end the battle or let him kill you to remove his hostility towards you. So in order to unravel it, we have to start with doing the beginning steps to his quest line correctly and unlocking his all dialogue/items/interactions.
I feel like this quest really concludes the Patches strory throughout the series. Once started as a heatheaded cleric hating thug, he encountered multiple people with ambitions just like him only to see them fail and fade. He witnessed the end of many eras, many worlds collapsed. There is no more hate, just a silly little trickster we see in ds3. But in ER he found something different, a love, something he never felt before, notice how different he acts around Vulcano Manor, Patches would never work for anyone. But the love was unanswered, Tanith has gone mad and didn't even recognize the gesture of reminding her past that quite literally might have been the last thing Patches done in his life. But he went over it, collected himself and came the full circle to the state that was suggested to him by his guts - a silly little Patchee, who sells goods and keeps you on your toes with his shenanigans. A truly happy end for me
Patches gives you several gestures. Getting all of them is more complicated than any other quest in Elden Ring.
Guess now all we have left to do is going back to Patches' cave fully dressed in Ranah dancer's set to provide him at least comforting dance performance.
It would blow my mind if there was somehow more to this quest, but sadly, I don’t think that’s possible. With all the data mining on top of the 2 1/2 years of consistent player base, we would have found it by now. It’s likely the spiritual successor of the Pendant from DS1.
There still being a hidden Miquella ending / alt DLC story piece. That’s a conspiracy I can almost don a tin foil hat for. Something definitely got cut from the DLC . There’s clearly a cutscene at the end of the 1st gameplay reveal trailer, that shows Miq raising his arm to the Scadu Tree. No one has discovered what that cutscene is for. So likely cut content, but who knows.
To get the secret ending, you have to no hit Radahn's first phase. Then, when he enters second phase (with Miquella is on his back) you have to stop attacking. Dodge everything but the grab attack. After you have the glowing bowtie above your head, you have to be using the "Let us go together" gesture while being grabbed a second time. The dialogue changes, your heart isn't stolen, and you go into the Age of Compassion end scene.
@@overlorddante I heard that if you damage Radhan just enough, at the right time, and during the hug attack; he does his jump for his meteor attack while holding you. However, instead of crashing back down to the arena, you guys land on the moon where there's a hidden Olive Garden legacy dungeon filled with unlimited breadsticks that allow you to respec your character as much as you want. Oh and the final boss Godwyn.
@@overlorddanteLol, I theorized something like this, but never bothered to try😊
Occum's Razor. He is Patches The Untethered. He became tethered to Tanith. You give her the castanets & nothing happens. You hit her & fight her knight for a reward. With Tanith gone, he is once again Patches The Untethered.
Makes more sense when you think about Patches' character as a whole through all the fromsoft games. He is always sane & keeps his sanity by tricking people & kicking them off ledges. The perfect end to his arc is him going back to the cave & doing what he loves.
I wonder if there's any cut content for this quest left. I haven't seen any. I thought it was just an unfinished quest.
I think you should wear Consort's Set, or at least mask to prove that you kill his love interest and see how he react. If it does nothing, it will be a great disappointment.
If you attack Patches after his first surrender until he attacks you back, and then grovel to him, he'll stop and give you the super grovel emote
After the whole quest line you can also attack patches until he attacks back and then let him hit you until your low. He will then give you a new emote, that you have to perform for him to stop attacking you. The emote is extreme repentence, I think.
Use the Patches emote in the second phase of Consort Radahn fight. You have to use it right at the moment Miquella uses his grab attack. If you time it right, he will stop and then recognize you as the true consort. He’ll ditch Radanhn and turn you into his new simp.
The Dancers Castanets could be a lore reward as it hints at her origin. We have the Dancers in the DLC now.
All of the quests in this game have disappointing endings. I can't help but to think they were going to follow up with this and never did, since the Castanets WERE added in a Patch. This is very suspicious, are we sure they haven't secretly added something to this?
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if you kill tanith her bodyguard invades you and you get the third aspect of the crucible. that's the ultimate reward. she moves somewhere where she can be killed, rykard's arena.
did the wiki not read the guide, it says it was finished. he goes back to his cave and reopens his shop. he learned nothing by venturing out so has nothing new. you got the crouch.
I always thought he was dead after the bridge WTF I did dozens of runs in that game
According to Miyazaki, there is one small element of Elden Ring that has not been discovered.
Maybe its related to Patches Questline?? Would be really cool
no. hes trolling like he did with the pendant
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nqMemezaki always trolling us😢
No, the secret is Melina being a boy...
Oh, the last part is new for me. Seem to remember that he died in the Shaded Castle.
Patches leaves Radhan festival after
he knew its all Miquila's manipulation.
He is nowhere in the shadow lands for same reason.
The dancer castanets are a symbol of the homeland of tanith Called ranah since the dancer of ranah has the 90% of the Sliders similar to tanith
It is most plausible that the Castanets are truely useless, that they are only good for the failed try of giving them to Tanith, that unlike Patches wishes, Tanith cannot be the woman she once was. But then there is stuff in games which is found only until much later, like the Souls Ritual in Diablo 2 LoD, which was found maybe in 2017 or so, the game being from 2000. It was directly coded into the game and found while disassmebling, it was not visible in the regular game data files. So while very unlikely, the Castanets could still lead to something.
The answers to lifes greatest questions will always be unkown
You have to give the pendant to Rya once she moves to the small room by the lava
Having the castanets in your inventory while wearing the dancer’s armor set makes the dancer swords do 69% more damage. 😏
The quest is complete. You get the castanet’s as a reason to return to Rykards boss arena to fight the crucible knight that defends her.
I can't believe I played this game for so long and missed patches kicking me off a cliff!! 😱
Wait what???!!!! I believed I knew EVERYTHING about the base game and I didn't knew that Patches actually returns to his cave and that you can get that emote... This game really never ends giving a little something. Best use for $60 ever in my life!
This all makes perfect sense to my head canon. Patches the Untethered, Lokiesque trickster god connecting the Soulsborne multiverse gives you a quest that makes you go through oversteps just to leave you frustrated. Very Patches indeed. But hey, it nets the iconic emote!
The last part of the quest is when he gives the Dancers Castanets to you. The next encounter on the cave is just for the Emporium.
I did see something new a little bit after the DLC came out, after you give the castanets in older versions he just dies and drops his armour at the shaded castle but after the DLC (not sure which patch) he goes back to the cave you meet him in for the first time.
The patch sending Patches back to Murkwater Cave after the Shaded Castle predates the DLC. I think it was 1.07 or around there.
Patches sitting under the statues, a think i never realize, he was there after 6 ng+ ER never stops to surprise me.
Something seems out of order. Like you are supposed to give the pendant to Tanith before defeating Rykard. Another usage of the pendant could be, that it is a usable item on specific location or encounter. For example the fight with Dancer of Ranah in the DLC. Also, it's kind of strange that we don't see Patches nowhere in the DLC.
I suspect the dancing lady from the DLC met Tanith and left her instrument to her as a form of pleadge to the volcano manor before leaving to complete her contracts leading her to the shadow of the erdtree realm part.
I just reset the area and visit his shop in his cave. I can't believe you haven't figured it out. I bet you don't even know what to do with the pendant in ds.
You trolling? Are you suggesting to try to sell him the castanets?
@@tctenagliaable 👃
Awesome video yet again!! So glad someone finally addressed this😊
This quest is unfinished. It was originally not in the game. They tacked on an ending, which wasn’t an ending.
Eh? How do yoy know that?
I've only seen Patches in 2 places ... interesting. Never even seen him kick me off a cliff
I liked the video but honestly I think the quest gave its rewards my friend. You get both Magmawhip Candle stick and the bull goat armor as rewards. A very unique whip and the best full armor for stats in the game. Then you get his croutch and I believe now with the DLC we get why the dancers castenets were included. Like that one shield it was a glimpse into what the DLC would hold, what a "battle dancer" looked like and why patches fell for her.
At 3:50, the reason why he said that is because if you go to his shop and didn’t buy anything, he talks negative about you. If you bought something before leaving, he says cheers. That’s the reason why he said “find it in your heart next time” meaning buy something to give him some runes the next time you talk to him.
I missed the entire Patches storyline on my first blind playthrough.
Could be unfinished; if I were going to test it I would use a mod to give myself the castanets early, and see if you can somehow deliver them to Tanith before she starts feasting. Otherwise, the quest finished as intended by leading the player back to Tanith, with Patches' gesture falling on deaf ears. For a reward, put her out of her misery.
Yeah, it didn't sit well with me either, but to be fair, which FromSoft NPC quest really has a satisfying ending? Igon might be the only one! And many would argue against that as well.
In this case specifically though, here's how I look at it to make it more palatable:
In Tanith's case, think of it as a chance to release her from her misery and get some items as rewards, or let he wallow in pain and craziness as her comeuppance.
And as for Patches, he has always been taken pride in living outside the system with no true allegiance to anyone or anything. And true to form, after all is said and done, he goes back to business as usual. Honestly, he might have the best ending among the NPCs 😄
@@Dr.UldenWascht I really like this comment. You really went deep into the lore and the character arc and design. I'm thinking patches is special to from soft, since he is the only recurring character and he is in almost every game.
It’s like the ds1 secret chamber opened like 2 years ago
He goes back to the cave you originally found him and reopens the emporium
It seems like the emote is the reward and that's it. They just wanted to have him in the game to continue the tradition.
It’s just to get the patches squat. Pretty much. That’s how it was with patches in dark souls. He is one of the few npc’s that never had a tragic ending, or a really great reward or anything either. In Elden ring they just kept his Easter egg theme.
Maybe the reward is the friends we made along the way
i think there is some cutcontent involved with tanith, since the item patches gives us and his fascination over the girl seems quest related.
I seen a video , where whatever the person had done in there game patches died in that hallway with all those statues... so that tells me there has to be more to it....
If you kill Tanith you get to fight her crucible knight
The problem is getting Tanith to finish eating. In one of my ng+ I found her done with the body but she only groans. I didn't do the patches stuff in that one.
The next step is into your spine , when he kicks you again 😂
I'm still salty that Blacknight Gaol wasn't Lapp. The way the knight has a froghelm and is using Gael's crossbow made me think Lapp was going to be a dlc tradition where Patches references previous games.
Gotta be the dancers castenets. Calling it before the video starts
The quest ends when he returns to the first cave where you meet him with his gang after killng Tanith... Not much more to be said...
I have a different start on quest I continued to rest on grace at the beginning and another chest appeared but it was a trap chest that transport you to bear forest where you find blaid, there is also another piece that i find for that tanith dialogue
3:52 Nothing special. He sometimes says that if you don't buy anything from him.
Tanith declining the item is pretty obvious because in her pov patches is just a creepy stalker fan boy of her as a dancer and robbed stuff from her wardrobe in the past
Check the number on the fan daggers cause completing patches portion of that quest gives him a limitless amount of fan daggers, regards to taneth, well your supposed to kill her.
I find patches in the cattle where we get the arm for millicent, he was invisible and appeard, not in the wiki dont know why, the room (more like a corridor) before the boss room
Simple quests over long convoluted quests any day. Plus the stroy is good enough to match said quests.
have you tried the dlc dancer gear when giving tanith the casternets?
Two thoughts:
Use crouch emote near Tannith to either reset some variable/spur a respose, then interact, or somehow interact while crouching
Or
Try to give castanets back to Patches.
@@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike I have actually tried both things, there is something that happens if you kill Tanith, a crucible knight will spawn and fight you, but that's it.
@@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike Patches doesn't have an option to talk about the Castanets after he returns to the cave
@@ProjectOrionGaming Werd. That other suggestion regarding the "dancer" character seemed plausible as well, but I'm otherwise stumped...
Though... Maybe something to do with the Lion Dancers/hornsent grandam? Wear the Lion head with Tannith?
I was expecting some kind of evidence for the quest not being solved yet instead of a "because I feel like it" lmao
Wow how have I never figured out there was another step to patches quest line, I'm on a new play thru and I'm at the end of the manor quest, I have to do that final step. That's why I love this game 2 years later, and I'm still finding new things in the game, crazy.
Isn't that Dancer of Rannah fire item similar to the castanets Patches gives you? Maybe it is linked to the lore, in that you can suppose now that Tanith was one of these dancers, maybe the very mausoleum dancer herself.
Maybe you need to progress further in the story, to give her time to consume Rykard and return to her? Maybe as an Eldenlord - as Boggart mentiones 4:27
It'd be nice if she finished eating rykard and turned into a new boss
Isnt the ending of the quest when Patches returns to murkwater after his whole adventure is over?
I dont know if his stock updated, but its still a nice story for him.
Tantis castanets though, got no clue about them. May have a link with that dancer south of the demi humans in the DLC, since Tanit is a dancer as well.
i had no idea about the latter half of that questline lol after volcano manor i thought you were just making stuff up
IF the quest has some form of completion the community hasn't discovered yet, that's a big if with data miners and the like, and it's ALL in base game I would have to think the quest would have to include some really esoteric new game plus stuff. Do this thing in run 2 and this thing in run 4 and don't do that in run 5 kinda thing.... What I find far more likely assuming again that the quest keeps going, it was left open in base so it's a big mystery, then the dlc comes out, where is the dlc located? The land of death so it would require you to kill patches at some point (considering you can kill him at many points and how esoteric the quest already is, it could be at any time) you then find him in the land of the dead to do more patches stuff... That also could of been the plan, it gets cut from dlc development and bam we wouldn't even know the difference