UNSC's Pre-Covenant Warship | Halcyon-class (Pillar of Autumn) Breakdown | Halo Ships
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2020
- The Halcyon-class Light Cruiser was used by humanity before they ever met the Covenant. See a complete breakdown of this Halo Capital ship. Learn it's history from before the Fall of Reach, through the Halo series and even behind the scenes facts.
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shouldn’t it be “ the domain will be with you, always” ?
Ah I like that. Yeah I'm trying to figure an ending out.
No I think it should be "may the ancestors be with you, always"
Spartans never die
MetaNerdz Lore “and remember, the great journey is nye”
@@MetaNerdzLore or "may you walk the path of the great journey "
"Has a length of 3,840 feet"
>And grows three times that size when accommodating for final vehicle run levels.
I hate the size issue in Halo... I'm tryna make a ship to ship game for this and I'm trying to stay in line with lore... Even though it's flipping broken
@@navb0tactual what kind of game?
We just do circuit loops........totally makes sense.........
@@georgeadams2555 🤫
@@georgeadams2555 I won't lie, I'm absolutely dog shit at making games so it is my hobby at the moment... It's very similar to that Halo Reach modder who has made the frigates, Corvettes, Cruisers, and Carriers flyable... As well as all the fighters...
I have no game play because I'm a basic bitch using Unity Engine... Which isn't really built for this :P
I might try UE4 but we'll see...
Honestly someone else will probably have it done waayyy before I even get anything near polished. I'm really slow and have crippling procrastination issues...
"Engineering marvel"
*Remembers the 3km long racetrack on a 1.7km long ship* You're damn right it is!
That was just for gameplay reason, to make the warthog run last long enough to give us that adrenaline rush
lol
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I think making the warthog run 2 minutes has more of an adrenaline rush than 4
Spacetime can't stop a Halycon
The reason the numbers are "off" is because the Pillar of Autumn is a completely second refit over the original refit. The Autumn was a one time massive upgrade with some of the best technology and equipment available to the UNSC at the time. It is why that refit pattern became the basis for the new Autumn class Heavy Cruiser post war.
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How to win naval combat?
UNSC: Flying Sniper Rifles
Getting no scopes even in space :P
Damn right
Without camuflage to look like asteroides :/
See, I want a UNSC ship which is literally just a MAC gun with engines strapped to it. No Archer Missile pods, minimal point defense, armor thin as toilet paper, a tiny crew size. It's only purpose is to be a big gun which shoots things, while being stupidly easy to produce.
Now THAT'S the pinnacle of UNSC engineering. I mean, who needs armor when you're just gonna get blown up by a single plasma torpedo anyways?
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In the future thick armor and kinetic weapon will be not used.
Whenever i feel down i listen to theoretical spaceship engineering and it just feels right!
Dexter Nexus Same lol
Yupp, exactly : )
Who among us
We all like minded have been born 300 years too early.
Does slipspace have floating particles in it? Travelling at high velocities a speck of dust can puncture a hole in the hull.
One thing that was missed is that the Halcyon class isn't rated for atmosphere, which is why in Halo Reach it has those side thrusters to get it out of the dock
I finally have another source for halo ship’s information for my personal story Thanks
Awesome!
@@MetaNerdzLore Out of curiosity, what made you decide to cover Halo?
@@MetaNerdzLore Do you think you can also try covering the UNSC Infinity? I know a small bit, but I barely scratched the surface
Halopedia, my dude. They've got all the data you could ever need.
Leftyjr_Gaming dude I get you lol, I would love if they did one on Forward Unto Dawn! That’s the the kind of ship in my personal story/head cannon
"Tis a flesh wound!."
Gets plasma, boarded, blown up etc.
"COME BACK I'LL BITE YOUR BLOODY LEGS OFF!"
-Pillar of Autumn, crashed on Alpha Halo.
...and then it did. By blowing itself up.
"Tis but a scratch!"
"A scratch?! Your torso's off!"
"Tis a flesh wound" ........ should be the motto of this class 😀
“Ive had worse”
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it is also a tardis for the final level of halo when it stretches to over several km long, those humans... no wonder the covies hate us and our space magic
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This link doesn't contribute anything to the discussion.
"these ships were designed to take on insurgents"
"massive spinally mounted magnetic acceleration cannon that transforms the ship into a gun"
Scary insurgents.
Actually, the insurgents really were a threat. They were throwing nukes on civilians, for one.
@@Timjer92 yeah iirc, the insurgents once snuck a nuke into a major city on some planet and detonated it in the streets
Yep. The insurgents were some crazy sons of b*tches. They’re part of the reason why the Spartan program was created. Also indirectly they are part of the reason humanity was getting prepared for the eventual human covenant war. So if not for the insurgents and possibly some luck. Humanity would’ve been wiped a lot sooner than expected.
They had rag tag fleets of stolen ships.
Take from today’s history they probably would put nukes in cargo ships and put them on a collision course with unsc ships.
You’d want to snipe them out the sky before they got close too
insurgents captured their own ships sometimes, gotta blast them with gigatons of kinetic energy
So your finally doing other sci fi ships awesome.
I wait to see the Forerunner Fortress-class Dreadnought and Imperium Battleship.
Yeah I'm excited there are a ton of things we got started
MetaNerdz Lore can you do war hammer 40k
@@MetaNerdzLore
How about the little known history of the Spirit of Fire.
I’m most excited for future content!
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Discrepancy !
Or, reason for the Discrepancy. The Autumn was specially modified for Operation Red Flag. Prototype laser cooled reactors, a three shot burst capable MAC, and half of its hanger space converted into hidden Archer pods. All on the starboard, right, side if i remember correctly. So she had the 36 external, PLUS the 300 internal.
source, the novel "Fall of Reach"
Correct. I think the retrofit was even more extensive than that, too. It's definitely not a standard Halcyon cruiser.
@@cyberspectre8675 Tougher, faster, stronger. Plus more troop space.
The UNSC used the refit specs to create the Autumn-class heavy cruiser of the post-war era.
@@cyberspectre8675 in the novel, The Autumn was beasting her way back from the outer rings when the main push for Reach happened. Rolling over any corvettes or frigates that got in her way. Usually on the first salvo. Very much a wolf in sheep's clothing.
@@KillerOrca I've seen that too on the halo Wikis... but the stats listed don't seem to match that statement.
Maybe all the extra upgrades of the Autumn class are classified? =P
Also to be noted: The halcyon class cruisers were out of commision, being scrapped for parts because the model was so old and basically obselete. Autumn was recommissioned specifically for operation red flag.
Correct me if im wrong, I’ve only listened the first book as audio book. Reading sticks better in memory.
I heard the ODPs have a deadly force of around 48 gigatons. That's pretty powerful imagine what a Forerunner ODP can do.
Actually, its 51.6 gigatons (I ran the numbers through a kinetic energy calculator at omnicalculator.com/physics/kinetic-energy and converted the given megajoules into gigatons), but you got pretty close. For some bizarre reason, despite the stated mass and velocity numbers given by the main article at halo.fandom.com/wiki/Orbital_Defense_Platform, the trivia section for that same article gives a TNT equivalent of only 1.3 gigatons per shot, clearly whichever idiot wrote that down didn't bother to do the math(s) properly.
@@TruePacifist201
Thank you for that.
@@thorshammer7883 No problem.
Also I don't think the forunners would utilise kinetic weapons like Mac's I've never heard of forunners using stuff like that only Hard Light weapons
@@TruePacifist201 Um...shouldn't special relativity be used since they go at like hald lightspeed, which would put it in the tens of teratons range?
I know I’m late but this is important
Should be noted that the Pillar of Autumn itself had an overhaul of its weapons, which is what causes the discrepancy.
It’s Mac could fire three times before needing to cool down, allowing it to single handedly tear through any covenant shield known at the time, meanwhile most other ships needed to have two Macs in it to perform the same stunt.
It had more stuff, including the archer missile pods.
The reason is because the mission they were planning was to kidnap a covenant leadership and needed a ship that would survive.
They chose the halcyon class due to its survival ratio and stuffed it with their most cutting edge tech, including the Spartans, right up until Reach got attacked.
IIRC the Pillar of Autumn was specially outfitted for a deep penetration mission to capture Covenant leadership, so that could account for the discrepancy in missile pods.
It should also be noted that the Pillar of Autumn was a special case as it's original objective was to go deep in enemy space and attempt to capture a Prophet. It also had 2 AIs as Cortana was apart of the Spartan detachment that was supposed to be on board
I'm already hyped for the breakdown of covenant ships (the CCS-class especially!,).
Love halo can’t wait for halo infinite
Yeah for real
MetaNerdz Lore is halo infinite Releasing for Xbox one and series x and pc ?????
@@cinematicplays2644 all 3
Arc for halo infinite Xbox one series x and pc ????
Shadow blue Gamer yeah all the current gen Xbox’s (one, one s, and one x) along with the series x and pc will be getting halo infinite
The Halcyon and Marathon classes are among my favorite ships in all of science fiction.
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USS Excelsior, Jt-327 Nubian,
Arwing and TARDIS
6:12 I didn't know that the UNSC has lightsabers
HA! ... Yeah, cant count the number of times i've used that joke when moving aircraft on the flight line. =D
Those are guiding lights. Star Wars has thoses.
UNSC version of the covenant energy dagger
Those are actually LightDaggers, they're identical to the sabers, just shorter, and used by the space rouges.
According to Installation 00 and several other Halo Lore Masters, the Actual Size of Halo ships is 2.65 times Larger than what is listed (this is based in part by the size of the Longsword Fighter and Launch Bay 7 in CE's Final Cutscene). This makes the Autumn 3,100.5 m long, 932.8 m wide, 1,097.1 m tall, and weighing in at 28.5 Million Metric Tons. That size allows for the Dozens of point defense guns and 832 Archer Pods on the ship to actually Fit, as the Original size was insufficient (even the Longsword in the Cutscene was too big for the Original Size).
More coming on that subject. Stay tuned. Much Love.
Cortana didn't look down on the the Pillar of Autumn, she was impressed by it. She specifically picked it because of its structural strengths at a time when earth ships were getting swatted out of the sky from catastrophic shots. in her first battle, she took out a covenant supercarrier on her own
hey meta nerd i worked on several US navy vessels and i wanted you to know that the reason they had so many missiles was most likely they were the missile pod reloads. once fired the pods could be reloaded from within the ships main magazine much like current navy vessels.
You once told me in a live stream q and a that you wouldn't move from star wars content, thanks for suprising me!
A surprise to be sure, but I hope a welcome one lol
4:26 Ok, the reason for the discrepancy is that the Pillar of Autumn whose stats you're using for the larger number, wasn't a normal Halcyon class cruiser. She was specially re-fitted for Operation: Red Flag, a UNSC plan to capture a Covenant Prophet, and use them to negotiate a ceasefire. This partly involved them boarding and capturing a Covernant ship to take back to the then unknown Covenant homeworld without destroying it. As a result, the Pillar of Autumn was heavily modified. It's covered extensively throughout the novels The Fall of Reach, First Strike, and to an extent The Flood.
You also need to be careful not to confuse the Halcyon's with similar-looking but very different Marathon Class Heavy Cruiser. They have a similar looking space frame but the Marathon is larger and heavier armed than a standard Halcyon.
Other than that, not a bad video. Suggest checking some of the Halo wikia articles, they're well put together on the different ship classes and have good referencing to the source material.
Manufacturing on Mars? Happy mechanicus noises
Yea in the halo universe they have a large shipyard in Mars. You can see it in one of the halo 3 trailers.
Star Trek, Warhammer 40K and now Halo. Who doesn't use Mars to build ships.
Yes more halo and it’s Medanerdz too. Oh and the Autumn’s MAC cannon fired in 3 round bursts.
I thought I mentioned that? It is in the script for sure
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Me: *IM SPEED*
Thanks!
@@MetaNerdzLore your welcome
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I forget which Halo book it was but Cortana was allowed to pick her own ship, and she specifically chose the Pillar of Autumn over more advanced UNSC ships because of its ability to take a beating with the honeycomb construction.
Yes! The moment we’ve been waiting for! Halo is just as extensive as the EU in Star Wars! Keep up the awesome content!
UNSC? AND ONE MINUTE EARLY? Todays gonna be a good day
Hope you like it!
As far as the question of why the missile numbers having a discrepancy. The "pillar of autumn" had a bunch of custom upgrades for its mission specific mission. The quote from captain keys was specifically referring to one of the docking bays being entirely replaced with missile pods.
there's a lot of description of these ships' tactical abilities in some of the Halo novels as well. Those were fun to read.
Nice video, I hope to see more Halo content from you in the future. Keep up the awesome work.
Yeah but how many Dewbacks can it hold..?
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At least 2
So glad you're opening up this channel to other franchises. Metanerdz you continue to be one of my favorite channels when it came to Star Wars and now you might be my go to for other franchises as well 😊.
The reason that the pillar of autumn was so heavily armed was because originally it was going to be used to go deep into covenant territory and capture a prophet to try and bargain for a peace
MetaNerds doing halo ships, DREAMS DO COME TRUE
I am so glad I discovered this channel. These videos have been helping me sleep so much. I like to listen and imagine all these cozy Halo thoughts and it is the most relaxing thing. Thanks!
Small error the pillar of autumn was a even more heavily refit ship for UNSC operation RED FLAG so that can explain the archer missile numbers being off
Always happy to see more Halo
Even in the remastered version, Keyes still had the wrong rank on his chest.
@@precisi0n86 hahaha
Thank you for giving halo and a halcyon some love
This is a new one. Honestly didn't think you'd ever cover Halo.
So, Metanerdz. Is there a chance you might have a guest-starring Eckhartsladder?
You two would make a great duo for sci-fi geeks everywhere.
Maybe one day
MetaNerdz Lore yay
Really liked and enjoyed watching this.
One of my MOST favorite ships in Halo!!!
Hope you'll do more, not only Halo, but others from different series.
This is the first video I've seen from your channel. I'm a huge halo fan and would love to see more videos like this. I am now subbed!
I love these types of videos about ship lore. Keep'em coming!
Yes, finally! I have been waiting for this for almost a year!
Who is that in your avatar?
Please make an entire playlist of this. Very well done!!
4:30 I think the discrepancy is because of the Autumn being modified further as it was meant to be the ship for Operation Red Flag...
TL dr ship takes Spartans to capture a high prophet to negotiate peace with the covenant.
But then they found Reach because of a tracker hidden inside of the UNSC Iroquois' Haul
So shit hit the fan fast
If it already hasn't of course
Would love to see more of this stuff, always have been a huge Halo fan
There is a descrepensy from keys because he's a terrible captain
1. He had no idea about the covanents ship capabilities
2. He did not have a loaded firearm on him during a red alert
3. He fails to scuttle his ship once he knows covanent boarding parties have overrun his ship
4. Finally he allows himself to be captured.... Twice! Probably because he's the marine who never has a loaded firearm in a warzone
1. He has fought Covvies before. Keyes commanded a destroyer (Iroquois) before the events of Reach and CE.
2. He didn’t carry his sidearm loaded as he’s probably busy commanding instead of fighting. There would likely be marines nearby for protection anyways (or any shipborne infantry really).
3. With how armoured and structurally resilient the Autumn is, not sure how well that’d work. Plus, they have a place they can land on nearby, why scuttle your ship with all hands when you can bail out to a safe place and fight another day?
4. He didn’t allow himself to be captured. First time he was betrayed by a bridge crew. Second time he was under possession by the Flood. Also, he’s a navy sailor (or crewman however you want to call it), not a marine. A marine is by definition; an infantryman who served onboard ships. A sailor/crewman, while probably trained on firearms to a degree, aren’t supposed to fight as naval infantry (marine) as they aren’t trained or equipped for such a thing.
@@HaloFTW55 so he forgot his distinguished navel career as an officer
*SPOILERS*
The pillar of autumn can literally be scuttled by throwing a grenade into a couple pipes
Navel officers at this point have been fighting in boarding action and executing mutineers for thousands of years by the discovery of the first ring I don't know if people say it were your from but "a captain always goes down with his ship"
That was a great breakdown. Thank you for taking me back to the beginning. So much nostalgia. :)
Great video! I didnt want it to end!
Wasn't expecting this! Great video.
I was very excited to see a breakdown of the Halcyon! I don’t see too many breakdowns on Halo ships
SO HYPE!!! I have been waiting for this day!
is quite cool to see you guys now able to do other things now. I love star wars to death but still its cool to see you guys do more things.
Man the old halo art style was so much better, Glad to see the halo content! Do Elephant!
Hell freakin yeah! It’s about time someone with your expertise does a breakdown on halo stuff
Halo videos are a nice change of pace and are very interesting. Good job :)
Thanks I'll keep em coming!
Great video! Keep them coming.
You guys just keep getting more awesome
Please do more of these halo videos! this was really cool!
Excellent video great job with the details you provided and now I know
Love your videos, MetaNerdz Lore! Since you have always covered Star Wars content, I thought you wouldn't do HALO Ships. I am so glad you did. Keep it up, MetaNerdz! =))))))))))
Oh shit! Halo! Nice to see your expanding out from Star Wars! I’ve been wanting to play Halo a lot recently. If I could humbly request, could you please look at some of the ships & vehicles from call of duty infinite warfare? Keep up the good work!
Oooh good idea!
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I'm a big halo fan! Really excited when I watched this video. Really hope to see more!!
Yes! Oh my god this is SO cool ahhh I’m so happy about this you guys made my day with this
This is a great video! I want more halo videos!
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Star Wars AND Halo, I love this channel so much
Love these ship breakdowns.
Thanks I'll keep em coming
Brilliant video! I'm so glad you're style of analytical breakdowns can be turned onto other franchises. I love Halo and I hope you do more of these style videos in the Halo universe!
Also, where the bloody hell does the warthog run section take place on the Autumn? 😅
Loved the video! Great ship.
Fantastic 1st star wars video. Keep up the good work! ;)
Hell yeah brother I'm excited to see more halo from you
Good stuff man! Keep up the great content 👍
i hope you do more of these very good work here
The halo video was a very pleasant surprise. I am in support of you doing halo tech
Man I love your work, can’t wait to see more halo content maybe the Paris frigate or whatever it’s called, Savannah in reach I think, you know the one
Wow your finally doing Halo ships and stuff. Awesome!!!😁
Man I'm pretty lucky, just when I start playing Halo instead of battlefront 2 this appears
Ah the pillar of autumn. The flying giant Nokia of humanity with a hell of a punch.
This review has been done before. B7t its always good to see another.
You have to remember that the racetrack has twists and turns, probably making up for the extra 1.3 kilometers.
Loved the video! A thing I saw is that when you circled the ship at 1:08 that is actually a Marathon class ship. Keep it up though!
God I love that we can have content like this. Extended lore really solidifies a good universe
The Pillar of Autumn was gonna be used in an infiltration mission to capture a Prophet. I think it was chosen for its honeycombed makeup and its armament retrofitted for this task. It was gonna carry a large number of Spartans and Helljumpers, and was gonna go deep into enemy space.
I think Cortana chose this ship for its structure and Keyes was chosen because he was familiar with the Spartan program and he could keep a secret.
An iconic ship, nicely designed.
Thank you for another interesting video!
I love your real life comparisons ♥️
By the rings! A halo video? I'm all for it!
Loving the halo vid and would love to see more
Well well, what's better then Metanerdz doing star wars stuff? Its Metanerdz doing Halo stuff!
I like that you doing some out of Star Wars content and Halo is definitely a good start but I think when doing these videos you should compare out of univers tech with its Star Wars counterparts.
Ooo hurray, this video came out yesterday on my birthday!
Anyways, I'm commenting because I'm surprised you didn't mention the MASSIVE upgrades the Pillar of Autumn received to it's engines and MAC system during the preparations for operation red flag.
I cant remember all the specs for the new fusion reactors exactly, but I do remember that they were (at the time) bleeding edge tech because it utilized a new type of cooling system that didn't require them to have to vent chemical coolant into space to make room for the unheated reserves of coolant. This allowed it to run at 300% power output for short times if needed with virtually no risk at all since the amount of excess heat removed from the system would only increase as the overall power output did along with it. The original reactors also only had 10% the power output of modern ships off the line whilst these new upgraded ones were a fairly big step up in power even compared to other modern ships.
And with the MAC: the original Halcyon's were armed with a standard magnetic accelerator canon that could fire one "light" shell per charge. The upgraded version they installed was able to fire 3 shots per charge. It's rounds were a little bit lighter than the original version, but these rounds were designed to work like shredder rounds which end up doing the nearly the same amount of "damage" to shields and extra damage after the shields are dropped (most likely by the first shot).
When combining these upgrades to the MAC with the faster recharge rates probived by the new fusion reactors, you get a ship that's armed to the teeth that can also take more damage than any other UNSC vessel of the era. The term hyper-lethal comes to mind ^_^
Um.. at 6:11 - I think you'll find that the middle one of those "scanners" is actually the Lower Bow Emplacement of one of the eight Mark 33 Spitfire Coil-gun batteries. (it's upside down) You can see it clearly at 4:42. Also the cut-away diagram does not show the location of the Mark 33 Side emplacements, Which are supposed to be mounted at the forward section of the hull in front of the dual side batteries - in front of the lateral recessed area amidships, Directly below where the rear of the MAC system is in the cut-away diagram (except obviously on the external hull. They can also be seen in the Halo: CE Anniversary model, again at 4:42.
Also, at 3:09 - those aren't some of the "40 - M910 Rampart" point defences.. Someone has definitely messed up, especially the modeller of the 3D diagram of the M910 ramparts that you used the blue image of here... 40 of guns that size would be WILDLY more noticeable and the Autumn would be LITERALLY COVERED in turrets if the point defence guns were that size. The Autumn is just over a kilometre long. Those are a LOT bigger than 50mm... I'd say they are two of the "6 - M66 Auto-cannon" emplacements (given their position and assuming that one would be cut-away to show the internals, there should be 3 each side - probably for a hybrid of powerful point defence for larger strike craft and more broadside DPS against smaller capital class ships, essentially). You can see some of the "18 - M910 Rampart" point defence guns above the MAC barrel, on the external dorsal area above the bow and on the very bottom of the cut-away diagram amidships (Directly below the M66 Auto-cannons I pointed out earlier).
Edited - Autocorrect...
Great video! You should do a breakdown on a battlestar from battlestar galactica, or the ships from the expanse!