BBC: Vegan Diet Could Affect Intelligence | Debunked
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Make no mistake, this is a vegan hit piece that only makes negative claims against a vegan diet for intelligence and overall brain health. The errors, out of date research, and exclusion of any positive points deserves a debunk.
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Original Article: www.bbc.com/fu...
My Meat Made Us Human Response Video: • TIME: Sorry Vegans, Me...
Starch and Brain Evolution:
www.jstor.org/...
Calories in a human brain calculation:
www.quora.com/...
Extra: Protein is horrible brain energy source: diabetes.diabe...
Extra: Animal fat bad brain energy source: "26-47% of the energy contained in fatty acids is lost if they are used for gluconeogenesis."
journals.plos....
Dramatic Anti-vegan Article 1 on Choline:
www.insider.co...
My Choline Video:
• Vegan Diet Risks Brain...
Dramatic Anti-vegan Article 2:
www.dailymail....
Dramatic Article 2's Expert Conflicts:
www.minnpost.c...
Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics Position:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Compilation of organization statements:
vomadlife.com/...
Review Against Vegan and Vegetarian Children: www.tandfonlin...
India Gender Ratio:
ourworldindata...
Study on Vegetarian Gender Ratios that doesn't exist:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Kenyan Study:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Empathy Study on Vegans:
journals.plos....
Empathy is associated with emotional intelligence:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Creatine Not Essential: aminoacidstudi...
Carnosine Not Essential: www.sciencedir...
Taurine Not Essential: www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Vegetarians Equal Brain Creatine (slightly higher):
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Vegan Health Quote on Creatine Study:
veganhealth.or...
Duckweed B12: www.parabel.co...
Swiss Vegan Study:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
B12 Not Lower in Vegans - Spain Study:
"...differences in vitamin B12 and MMA...not found."
link.springer....
B12 Not Lower in Vegans - Runners:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Saturated Fat and Alzheimer's:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
High LDL or bad cholesterol is linked to early onset Alzheimer's:
dx.doi.org/10.1...
Choline Content of 200 calories of beef:
www.myfooddata...
Industry Choline Study:
www.fasebj.org...
Brain Inflammation Neurodegeneration:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Lower C Reactive Protein / Inflammation on Vegan Diet:
“The average CRP level was 5.29 ± 11.7 at baseline and 3.56 ± 8.0 mg/dL post intervention”
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Why people hate vegans:
www.theguardia...
Intro/Outro Song: Sedução Momentânea by Roulet:
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This one was a doozie of research and in the fray I made a point that is not fully valid. While it wasn't actually a topic mentioned in the BBC article, thanks to you guys I now see that the sex ratio in India is overwhelmingly caused by Male selection. Men are favored so gender screening which is now illegal has played a role in this ratio. That being said, I stand by the point that vegan women aren't going to be having a nutrient deficiency-based lower male birth rate.
@LIFTING THE VEIL LOL
@LIFTING THE VEIL Folks, Charlie Sheen is still in the building. ;)
The Truth - Projection much? Liking your own comment (obviously) at 2 min in 🙄🙄🙄
Was about to point that out. similar case in China(mostly Omnivore population) in the past but had since cause many social issues where many Chinese men had problems finding wives.
Mic the Vegan Hi Mike. Great work. I notice your eBook link is not working. Can you share a working URL ?
Jokes on you BBC, I'm just as dumb as I was back when I wasn't a vegan. 😎
Lololol, MEEE!! 😂🤣🤣
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haha !!
LOL
Same
The BBC is a joke. They have lost their way.
"the inert block of tofu that is a vegan brain" I'm dying
Totally using that as an excuse from now on😂
Someone talking about me?
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I'm sure a vegan diet does affect intelligence; by improving it.
Exactly. :D Better blood circulation to brain and all.
Actually there is a study on vegatarian kids being significantly smarter than meat eaters but it doesn't count for environment like parents' education.
@@goku445 I think that is more likely a corrolation. Meaning - people with higher IQ are more likely to become vegetarian/vegan and raise kids that way, too.
I grew up vegetarian because of my highly educated mom who decided to study nutrition and eat ethically in her 20s. She has been vegetarian for 30 years now. She has become a junk food vegetarian, though.
In other words I have never eaten meat, just limited eggs and a lot of dairy, before I went vegan at 22. And here I am - in the middle of my own university degree, preforming above average.
I think we know by now that an anti-inflammatory, antioxidant rich, ethically conscious diet that forces you to educate yourself on nutrition will be better for you overall.
And honestly I wouldn't eat animals even if it was proved that my IQ would drop a few points, just because it is the right thing to do.
Low IQ is probably very highly corrolated with a shitty and unethical diet, at the opposite end.
@@fromeveryting29 Yep, I agree.
I don't know about that, but it seems that intelligent people tend to abstain from eating meat.
Some intelligent, widely admired people who chose not to eat meat- Pythagoras, Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Voltaire, Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Nikolai Tesla, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Albert Schweitzer, George Bernard Shaw, Tolstoy, Thoreau, Saint Francis of Asisi, Nobel laureate and holocaust survivor Isaac Bashevis Singer, and many more. Some on this list switched late in life, but stayed on it to the end. Ben Franklin switched at age 16.
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." -Einstein (Of course today, he would be vegan. So would the others on this list.)
The famous Professor of Physics Brian Greene is vegan. You may have seen him on PBS hosting science shows for the layman. Jane Goodall recently went from a long time vegetarian to vegan. Greta Thunberg is vegan. Jon (Daily Show) Stewart is not only vegan, he owns a farm animal sanctuary! Alex O'Connor, aka Cosmic Skeptic is an atheist who eloquently lays out the ethical requirement to be vegan in his video "A Meat Eater's Case for Veganism."
ua-cam.com/video/C1vW9iSpLLk/v-deo.html
As a non-Brit, I used to think BBC was this great bastion of impartial news and journalistic integrity but I've slowly learned that they're just as terrible as anyone but with nice accents.
haha, me too
impartial 😅😅😅😅 you must be on drugs.
Yes, I think they're better at giving the impression of journalistic integrity, which makes them more dangerous as it's harder to see through them and people trust them more. You hardly even need a braincell to see that MSNBC and Fox are establishment tools with an agenda to mislead.
And the worst thing is, is that we have to pay an annual license fee to support this trash!
@@hazelnutbix You don't have to. You have a choice.
I chose to reject this article as a credible source of information after I checked the B6 claims. She essentially said that vegans need to eat pounds of potatoes to get B6, however, a single banana has 1/3 of daily needs and it's extremely easy in general to surpass the daily needs of B6.
hahahaha omg seriously??? No way you this is really how you think? My god I really hope you get help soon before you destroy your health. I can't even believe you said this.....no fucking way this is real.
@@ykonratev It's true. You should use cronometer.com (non-vegan site) and see for yourself.
@@ykonratev "this is really how you think" What is wrong with the way Arturs Verza has reasoned in the OP? Seems sound to me. Can you be specific?
If the gut is healthy. The bacteria in the gut produces
B3
B6
B12
And K
@@ykonratev YOU HAVE TO BE A MEAT WORSHIPERS !!
Vulgar and STUPID.! !!
“The vegetable police of 1890;” that was brilliant.
Roxanne. You don't have to put on the red light, but do look out for Jack the Ripper.
It was pleasantly humorous
What about the ~'kale in the brain' thought bubble around the brian scanning scientist stock guy at the beginning. Casual as f😉k
In that autobiography Ghandi talks about essentially raping his wife around the same time. He felt terribly guilty the rest of his life for both...Interestingly, there were over 160 vegetarian restaurants in London around the time he was there in the late 1880s. 😉
As a nursing student I became vegan during my nursing school and I noticed a HUGE improvement in my cognitive processing as well as memory and information absorption as I was vegan for over a year
I'm glad to hear it! That is probably due to the removal of many processed foods (most of which are plant-based). I've posted some studies for you to consider - I do follow a Carnivore Diet.
Vegetarian Diet Affects Genes of Oxidative Metabolism and Collagen Synthesis
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18772587
“Compared with volunteers with traditional eating habits, carbohydrate consumption was significantly higher (+22%) in vegetarians. This was associated with a significant stimulation of CPT1A (+50%) and OCTN2 (+10%) and a lowered collagen synthesis (-10%). *These novel findings provide further insight into the association of a changed fat metabolism and reduced collagen synthesis in vegetarians, which could also play a role in the aging process.* "
Green tea extract only affects markers of oxidative status postprandially: lasting antioxidant effect of flavonoid-free diet
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12064344/
"Since no long-term effects of GTE [Green Tea Extract] were observed, the study essentially served as a fruit and vegetables depletion study. *The overall effect of the 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly with marked changes in antioxidative defence.* " Meaning Stress / Antioxidant markers improved by removing Polyphenols from vegetables
Effects of High-Protein Versus High-Carbohydrate Diets on Markers of β-Cell Function, Oxidative Stress, Lipid Peroxidation, Proinflammatory Cytokines, and Adipokines in Obese, Premenopausal Women Without Diabetes
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3687312/
" *This study was funded by the American Diabetes Association* (1-09-CR-32 [A.E.K., prinicipal investigator]).
Diabetes Care. 2013 Jul; 36(7): 1919-1925."
“ *The HP [High Protein] diet produced a significantly greater decrease than the HC [high Carb] diet in the levels of oxidative stress, inflammatory markers, and cardiovascular risk factors* ... Comparison of FFA [Free Fatty Acids] results were of interest, indicating a significant increase after 6 months on the HC diet suggesting greater lipolysis with HC diet after 6 months (P < 0.001) as contrasted to levels of FFA, which were significantly lower in the HP group after 6 months.”
Food intake diet and sperm characteristics in a blue zone: a Loma Linda Study
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27280539
“ *The study showed that the vegetables-based food intake decreased sperm quality.* In particular, a reduction in sperm quality in male factor patients would be clinically significant and would require review. *Furthermore, inadequate sperm hyperactivation in vegans suggested compromised membrane calcium selective channels.* "
I have struggled with memory issues my whole life but recently I've been able to remember more when I study. Such a huge difference
@@rav_666_ What kind of Diet are you following?
Ariel Venner
anti aging experts in the field completely agree that meat accelerates aging and plant antioxidants are the best forms of antiaging such as resveratrol. you’re research is very slim and bias towards the over arching body of research of anti aging. the best way to produce more collagen is by boosting your own production through antioxidants, choline and silica, vitamin C, and plant phenols and phytochemicals.
@@Ariel-oo1nc I'm happy you're presenting your points respectfully unlike others who go straight into name calling. I'm sure your points are correct to some extent because meat does supply you with nutrients that are good for your body, but just like anything else there are things in meat that do not 100% benefit you. I didn't go vegan due to the health benefits it would have on me but because I have seen too many mistreated animals and I will not support the corporations in their unethical ways. Even if there grass fed and free roaming, you still end up killing them. Scientists can't figure out how our brain works but they quickly jump to conclusions that animals don't have feeling or aren't emotionally on the same level as us. If I can live without hurting others then I much rather do that than eat eggs, drink milk and bite into a steak. The health benefits came secondary and I am impressed how much overall my health improved. I was always health conscious since I was born with a heart condition that requires me to stay fit and healthy. I always avoided processed foods, excess fat and sugar. This however wasn't enough. At age of 23 my blood pressure became elevated. I have had heartburns since I was 12. Tums were in every back pack and bed stand I ever had. I would get migraines with an aura about once a week, and I felt generally weak and struggled to keep up with my peers. I was always slower in catching the jokes, I was bad at math, I was forgetful and I felt like I didn't have the mental capacity to achieve big things in life. as of the physical aspect, I blamed my heart for it until I decided to go vegan and things have changed greatly.
First was the heartburn that went away completely, then my blood pressure dropped back to normal and even lower 110/70. About 4 months in, my migraines stopped and I felt more energetic. My mind cleared and I was absorbing information just by skimming the textbook page vs in the past where I had to re read that page slowly 3-4 times. I started figuring math problems in my head and things that I found as complex and complicated, suddenly made sense. I am now a year and 3 months in. I got my labs taken and everything is within a normal healthy range. I don't supplement other than B12 once every now and then. I became regular in my bathroom schedules and overall I do not regret doing this one bit.
I grew up in Poland where my family had a farm. We had fresh milk, eggs, beef, pork, turkey and chicken. My family didn't use antibiotics, hormones in their livestock as they weren't mass producing. This was just for us and maybe some of the close family friends. You would think that this is the place where you want your meat to come from and today these studies suggest that we should go back to those ways for meat and dairy to be healthy. Sadly, my grandparents, aunts and uncles, despite eating what they grew naturally all had serious health issues. Heart disease, cancer, dementia and diabetes type 2. They didn't live until they were a 100. Not even close. So I am doing things differently and if it leads me into a more fruitful, healthier life then I will know for sure that this is what our bodies work on best.
I had my 3 year old son as a vegan. He has been vegan since birth and the most popular comment I get about him is how smart and observant he is. I could tell from birth he is much more aware of what's around him than most other children I've seen. I had been vegan for 4 years before his birth and his father is also vegan. When I was pregnant I never had any health issues no low iron or folic acid anything that is common with pregnant women. I highly recommend a vegan diet while pregnant or in any situation
And anyone with half a brain would advise against it. Maybe consider that you were raised omni and you're taking a huge risk raising your child on a diet that is deficient in nutrients...
Antivegans: how dare you compare non-human animals with human animals?
Also antivegans: this research on rats and mice concludes plants specially soy is bad for human consumption.
Me: thank you for identifying yourself as a rat. humans are just like rats. At least rats are cute though. 🤷♂️
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good point
Amazing 😂😂
This is perfect
@James Parker Sure are rats are also carry diease like vegans
They're getting desperate
I had a lengthy facebook debate about this article, ending in being blocked.
Mad Though I can sum up your first mistake in the first six words there.
Deleted facebook weeks ago. I now have way more time for reading and UA-cam. :-)
@@DragomirSangeorzan Ive been thinking about deleting it, but the Vegan activism is all organised through Facebook. AV, direct animal action etc
@@madthough2298 Yes, I lost contact with them. I've saved my "likes", and I'll try to get the newsletters at least. Any org should have a site at least. Facebook actually is designed for this problem, they want to "be" the web.
RIP we need new broadcasting souce.
Hopefully someone will come up whit a new one. =)
My uncle sent me this article and i wrote a long debunk which in the end has led him to watch the game changers (hasnt watched it yet) so thank you bbc lol
That's pretty awesome! I hope he watches it!
What did you reply to him?
@@nmhunter8758 "anthropologists have been arguing about what our ancestors ate for decades"
And for decades it is known (through bone teeth and feces samples) that kost human populations got the majority of their calories from plants with the addition of some animals eaten
" Some have even gone so far as to say that meat made us human."
And some researchers have another hypothesis that it was cooking vegetables that made us human
"the German Society for Nutrition went so far as to categorically state that - for children, pregnant or nursing women, and adolescents - vegan diets are not recommended"
The german society for nutrition has 4000 members, while the 'academy of nutriotion and dietetics' which is the largest nutrition organization on earth consisting of tens of thousands has said that a vegan diet is perfectly fine for all life stages including pregnancy
Now about the research, this is an extremly low quality research which cant be taken seriously at all, first of all it was nigerian children which may already not consume enough calories, secondly, of course, if you replace meat wil nothing, than the meat group is going to do better, they didnt replace meat with a bean soup and some seeds, and if they would then the results would be completely different
As for the nutrient claims
Creatine, carnosine, taurine are not essential for the body and our body can produce them on its own
Omega 3 as they said is found in plants
Our body can produce vitamin d on its own
And the only one that vegans can get from the diet is b12, which we supplement
B6 that is simply not true, one banana has a third of the daily needs and many other plant foods have it as well
Iron is found in many plants as well.. my iron levels for example are much higher now than they were when i was eating meat
I stopped reading here
The BBC is heavily funded by the meat dairy and egg indutries and they are known for propoganda against vegans for a long time, the article isnt based on science, it is meant to scare people
The Truth - more projection 😳
Rabbit Food Fitness k
Bony-eared assfish, someone was angry 😂😂😂😂
Mic, Earthling Ed, Cosmic Skeptic, Dr. Greger, Dr Barnard, Dr Esselstyn, Weird Al...all support the idea that being vegan doesn’t curb your intelligence.
Have you seen the state of Gregor these days... Its like watching a car crash
@James Parker Are you kidding lol. Greger looks 20 years older than his age. He can't make a full sentence stuttering. He's not slim, he's skinny fat, he has a dad bod.
@James Parker The man looks like shit. He has the appearence of a man in his 60s, skinny-fat and malnourished. Thanks to his diet he has no muscle mass to speak of which gives him his Mr Burn's-like posture. He has the general appearance of a feeble and weak-minded individual. His skin is palid, it looks thin and increasingly transparent due to the lack of dietary collagen. He speaks loudly, slowly and with strange oration because his malnourished brain has lost the ability to think and communicate like a normal healthy person would. The lack of dietary cholesterol likely means that he's a prime candidate for a hemorrhagic stroke in the not so distant future.
@@Stoitism wow, you're really far, far away from any tree dude. listen to yourself making all these claims just bullying someone that they don't like like standard pumped hollow ballooney steroid users. you know,some people find nerd looks way more attractive especially if they work hard and have character traits wankers like you can only dream of. if any meat eater isn't perfect or doesn't use 90% of their free time in our short life on earth to make themselves look better on the outside while looking like a dried out prune regarding inner beauty, you'd be so fast to blame it on genetics, other environmental factors andallkinds of things. but vegans, vegans have no genetics that could influence them and how theylook right? and all people who are vegan now had a healthy lifestyle all their youth right? didn't at all suffer from severe illnesses for decades in some cases, which they solved or improved greatly by going vegan right? yea right, go on kidding yourself.if it helps you justify putting your mommys hard earned into feeding the hungry animal exploitation industry, congratulations.. you are achieving so much more than Dr. Gregor. and when you could see in the mirror how your inner beauty looks like, you'd maybe become as pale as all of us terrible, ugly looking vegans. you know, like Ian Somerhalder, Liam Hemsworth and those folks.
@@user-zv9no2my6j My problem with Dr Greger and people like him is that the information they're putting out into the world is hurting people and putting many others at risk. I listened to him and people like him when I went meat-free for almost 17 years. Despite eating a "whole food, plant based diet" and supplementing everything which I was supposed to, my health rapidly declined and I was at risk of serious longterm health consequences because of what I was eating, or more so, what I WASN'T eating. So I whole-heartedly reserve the right to say FUCK Dr Greger and FUCK anyone else who peddles this anti-human and unnatural diet. Humans ARE omnivores. Veganism is dangerous and the people who would force this ideology on others are also dangerous.
Going vegan certainly makes people act stupid around you. I don't have to say anything and as soon as it's exposed that I'm vegan, everyone starts bumbling about salt, nutrients, ethics and plants feeling pain
Or you get patronising af shit like "sit down, child, let me tell you a story about the evolution of teeth"...
Yeah, that happened on Quora.
Mainstream media *might* affect intelligence... take that BBC.
_Pun intended_
REEEEEEE
Preach it!!! 💯 You need your own TV show.
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Now every time I see something like this, I wonder if Mic will take it on. So glad we have you Mic.
I don't normally read these kind of articles, I don't often read anything that isn't in a book but I randomly stumbled across this the other day and thought, man, I should send this to Mic. Turns out I didn't have to.
It honestly didn't worry me much because the tone was so fear-monger-y and biassed I knew the "facts" would be questionable at best and flat out bullshit at worst.
Also, wonderful job as always Mic, debunking the gross misconceptions perpetuated by mainstream media.
My dad sent this to our family chat the other day. I read through it quickly, and it just got me angry. I'm not even fully vegan, but it was so obvious to me that all the "sources" for her claims were so bad and my dad being an engineer should have noticed it as well. The only study that held somewhat weight was the Kenyan kid study, but even the authors attest to the vegetarian diets lacking in certain nutrients...
*Create a Better World by......GOING and Living VEGAN*
Louis Gedo no offense but your repetitive comments everywhere are kinda stale and unproductive as well as your typical replies of calling anyone triggered etc when they point that out. Maybe get a better slogan my dude.
@@askyourselfsfather6516 No offense meant but you expect me to see you as a good judge of such things because you think you are????????? LMAO.
A person who uses a ludicrous identity such as yours and not their real name???????
LMAO......you'd have to earn my consideration of you as that by demonstrating you are a good judge of such things. Good luck with that, cupcake.
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Louis Gedo lol idk why I even tried reasoning with you.
I like this meme.
@@askyourselfsfather6516 That's my point......your so-called "reasoning skills" are non existent.
Buh bye.
😂 from “how did kale get inside the brain”... to “inert block of tofu” less than 3 minutes in and I was laughing so hard I had to pause. Ah Mic... you are so hilarious. Thanks as always for these awesome videos!
Vegans: we investigated are own propaganda and conclude we were right.
Ngl, as a vegan I found this comment very funny.
Oh, but uhh.... "our"**. Sorry, bud. Lol
I wonder who paid them this time? 🤔
BBC = British Beef Checkoff
...would be my guess.
BBC: Beef and Bro-science Council
The emotional intelligence required to know its wrong to eat animals is enough intelligence for me. So I win.
I have become so much smarter the 2 years ive been vegan. I dropped out of high school on an omnivore diet and i'm going to University now as a vegan.
"Vegan diet could make you unintelligent" says the unintelligent. Now we know the effects of not being vegan
so true...lmao
Thanks, Mic! Australia's sister station ABC, Australian Broadcast Commission, also publishes anti plant based diets/ pro meat consumption diets too.
All of our stations do!
But they are quick to blame their environmental disasters on other animals.
Lol easiest way to deal the BBC is to stop paying for the tv license. Stopped watching years ago.
Not renewing when mine runs out. It's an absolute travesty that this prevents me from watching other TV channels that fund themselves.
Great video as always. However, the thing about there being more males born in India is not a good point to raise because India still practices the killing of baby girls. An average of 200.000 per year...
I sent her this video, just in case she missed it ;)
Trying hard to think of a witty comment but I’m vegan and stupid so I can’t.
Camille just make a shitty username and profile picture and make lazy comments that fit your parody. That’s what I did with Ask yourself for a little while. Was fun.
Sex-selective abortion can explain higher than expected male birth rate in some cultures. Very sad really.
Thanks for addressing this Mic!!
I just messaged this to someone who sent me the article
That is scary about milk drinkers having lower test scores, as they give milk in schools here in NZ
As a kiddo who hated fluid milk, I can assure you, lots of that milk winds up in the bin.
I laughed so loud and suddenly when you said “so in conclusion bbc may have an effect on your intelligence” 😂😂😂😂
lol
What a load of BS. I was an idiot way before I went vegan.
"Could these shortcomings be affecting vegans' abilities to think?" is perfectly fine grammar. I think it's just that you don't speak British English. Some of the stuff you lot over there say would get you kicked out of English class in Blighty! lol
Yes, I'd like to hear what he thinks is wrong with it; I'm just curious. It sounds fine to me. The only thing I can think of is it's not exactly necessary for "abilities" to be plural here. But that's not wrong, just potentially a little inelegant.
I ate plant-based for 2 years but the digestive problems (gas, bloating etc.) didn't go away. I introduced animal products again, tried a "balanced" diet, put a little bit of butter in my coffee (i don't even drink coffee daily) and i feel blessed you guys.
In those 2 years of beig vegan i forgot how it feels to eat in this "balanced", "optimal" way. I started feeling like a child again. Do you know how i felt growing up?
Lazy, my sleep quality went to shit, i started getting dizzy during workouts again, and my morning glory was kinda.. lacking. I developed dandruff, itchy bumps and rashes on my skin, i started getting enormous hunger pains in the morning, and i was almost always constipated...
I've finally admitted to myself that i had digestive problems all of my life, and despite the constant bloating and loose stool in those 2 years being vegan, i still felt better than ever!
Now i'm eating only plants again, excepting the ones that cause symptoms, and i'm saving up to take GojiMan's tests and finally get my health back on track for real this time!
Did my whole PhD and half my first-class degree vegan so... Yeah no, not stupid thanks BBC...
Your research is so thoroughhhhhhhh
"Bony-eared Assfish" Thanks for the new insult idea 🧠
I wish this were true. I want to be blissfully dumb. I want to be a perfectly smooth-brained koala, content to sit around sleeping and munching on eucalyptus leaves all day, completely unaware of the threats posed to me by climate change and habitat loss.
I ate a whole bag of baby carrots...now I feel 1000% smarter 🤠
Crunchy colorful snack, very nice! Now I want some lol
I saw this article and I hoped that you would do a video on it!! Great video on this topic.
Lol I had two girls pre vegan and been vegan for 2 and a half years and just gave birth to a beautiful baby boy 💞
I really just wanted this video to be a 7 second bit of you just looking around, and then pointing at yourself.
Mic, can you explain the importance of BUN and why it's maybe lower for vegans? My protein levels were exactly normal, but my BUN level was a bit low (5, when it should be 7-20). (One of my friends, who's a doctor, said it's because I'm not getting enough protein, but then why would my protein levels be normal? My actual doctor said it isn't anything to worry about, but I'm still curious.) Just thought you might have some experience in this, and I'm having trouble finding anything online that might explain it.
There was a British cohort with 8,000 participants were they measured the IQ of 10 year olds, and they found the ones with higher than average IQ were statistically more likely to be vegetarian by the time they were 30. The average vegan actually had lower IQ but since there were only 9 of them it wasn't statistically significant so they put them in same category as vegetarian.
Given the defenses for eating meat I've heard, the opposite could be argued.
I had a debate with a carnivore on this exact article. It was a good time.
@Dr Grey Some humans are claiming to be carnivores. I assume that's what Vegan Flare is referring to, a human "carnivore". I bet that was entertaining.
Just a reminder, people will sell their soul for a buck!
Sitting here with my 145 IQ, looking at two cats who are too stupid to use a catflap . . . 🙄😂
Whoa, Mic, keep being as logical as possible. Vegans having more emotional intelligence because they are more empathetic to animals may have a lot to do with why they became vegan in the first place, not their diet.
The higher rate of males in India might relate, sadly, to the higher rate of males in China, which has nothing to do with diet, and everything to do with female infanticide (look it up).
Your point about duck weed having B12 has some validity, but how many of us eat duck weed. Note: it grows like mad in my outdoor fish and plant pots!!
The point about cholesteral and altzheimers applies to older people, whereas the accussations against the vegan diet are for all ages. Also note that defenerative diseases of the brain and underlying intelligence are not the same thing.
Further, we can't just dismiss a study because of who funded it, and call it a day. While that definitely shows a bias, we need to show superior contrary evidence coming from science. Just because people have a vested interest in a certain outcome does not necessarily mean the study is rigged, or that the outcome is wrong. Imagine you were a billionaire and funded a study to find determine the effectiveness of duck-weed B12 in a Vegan diet (after investing in harvesting duck weed and making supplements).
Other than those minor caveats, great job as usual. Really appreciate these videos.
Good points. Hope Mic reads it. Let's get it upvoted.
Atherosclerosis usually starts in the teens and 20s, and by the 30s we can see changes in most people," says cardiologist Matthew Sorrentino MD, a professor at The University of Chicago Medicine
I heard that saturated fat from veg sources doesn't build up in veins and arteries; is this true?
Short answer: check Mic's video on oil.
Long answer: that's true about WHOLE veg sources of saturated fats because those either come along with healthier unsaturated fat (avocados, whole olives) or are saturated fats that are easily used as energy (whole or shredded coconut flesh).
NOT true for processed oils (olive, coconut, palm, etc.). For some reason people still think that vegetable oils are healthy. They are the lipid equivalent of refined sugars!
If someone doesn't have any existing heart conditions and consume an adequate amount of plant whole foods, a bit of vegetable oil in cooking now and then isn't going to hurt their blood vessels anyways.
@@asukachan07 Ok yeah, thats exactly what I've heard and it makes complete sense. Thank you
Thanks for debunking this Mic :)
Thanks so much for clarifying this! When my doctor told me to go on a plant based diet this particular article scared me but I felt like there was something off about it... Honestly I feel that cutting out animal products has had a positive effect on my intelligence
Maybe she should eat some more plants and possibly she wouldn’t make so many mistakes in her writing.
Vegan males have a lower testosterone on average a tiny study in the Netherlands showed.
Funny thing is that correlation is not causation. Males that have lower test tend to be more feminine and have more empathy. Because of this they are less likely to wanna eat meat.
That being said I'm a strongman myself and since I stopped eating meat, drinking milk etc. my bench press and OHP went up by 15% in 2 months. That hasn't happend in almost 2 years.
Those 2 movements are closely related with your test levels.
"No, Hitler wasn't actually vegan." 1:43
@Oiman McFoyman Hitler was vegetarian and an animal lover. That is no a lie.
@@djaldd420 Hitler was never a vegetarian, he was a meat eater and ate liver and the flesh of animals regularly. This was proven several years ago that the vegetarism was just a myth. He wanted to be seen as good, animal lovers are often seen as just that. He was an "animal lover" the same way meat eaters and vegetarians are "animal lovers", not so much. Actions need to align with the words and it didnt do that with him.
@@scarofmanleavethembehind It is certainly contested but not disproven by any stretch. The most likely scenario is that Hitler was, as many vegetarians (not vegans) are, inconsistent. Meaning he considered himself vegetarian, and was pro-vegetarian, but did cheat and eat meat products from time to time. It is no myth that he was an animal lover and the Nazi party passed animal welfare laws after coming to power, even prohibiting Jews from owning pets.
Lifelong vegetarian, 25 year whole food vegan, tested in 99th percentile for intelligence at NYU Hospital. Thank you for debunking all the "I went vegan for o0 days and al.ost died" bs on the internet. It's all meat defensiveness.
Thanks, Mic! 👊
When I took my son to his first pediatric apt I mentioned that we were vegan and wanted to see if she was ok with that. She went off on a tangent about how he will have a lower IQ as he grows up...I walked right out to the front desk and asked for a different doctor lol
Lol. Like poster lior kosoy, a friend somewhat smugly sent me a link to that article a few days ago. I spent about an hour addressing the most egregious points the author tried to make and e-mailed back my rebuttal.
humans are so smart because of meat... this one always gets me. are we really that smart? which other species destroyed his own habitat knowingly?
Made me chuckle :)
Your new hair cut made me lol.
In a way I called you Gandhi so...you're welcome lol
“It takes an order of magnitude more effort to refute bullshit than it does to produce it.” Good rebuttal, thanks Mic
VEGANISM. IS. NOT. A. DIET. GODDAMN. IT.
I saw another vegan memory and math champion who is also a fitness trainer on a vegan festival recently: Rüdiger Gamm. He claims his mental and bodily strength became even better after he switched to a vegan diet.
3:38 "You lying bony-eared assfish soldier"
BBC.... Intelligence......Don’t get me started.
Great debunking video Mic! Both my children have been eating predominantly plant-based for the past 3-4 years (now 7 and 9), and in that time both have gone from being age-related in their school reports for most subjects to above age-related. Of course, can't be sure of the link, but their intelligence has definitely not decreased, though we do supplement their diet with vitamin D and B12.
Thanks for doing this so soon after I sent you the article.
In nutrition classes is FAT the most important part for brain development. Mothers Brest milk is mostly fat very little protein.
That extra fat is only needed or beneficial the first few years of life. Breast milk has a lot of carbs too.
@@karlwheatley1244 those carbs are there to help us gain weight fast and grow. It does not mean we are starchivores that are supposed to eat potatoes and beans every day 3 times.
@@User-pz4re All large, slim, and largely diabetes-free populations in recent history got the majority of their calories from whole food carbs, so "carbs" per se are not a problem, only processed carbs and added sugars are. Also, the best results ever achieved for all-you-can eat weight loss at one year were achieved on a diet with 70+% calories from whole food carbs. But to process carbs efficiently, you have to cut fat intake down to that of many hunter-gatherer tribes (more like 8-18% of calories from fat).
@@karlwheatley1244 you're still parroting the same shit I already know.
Yes I know fat reduces insulin sensitivity, and a lot of people got most of their calories from starch. That is useless, I'm telling you that starch is not our natural diet and never will be.
Do you even know what a starch is? It's sun energy that plants turn into glucose to store for energy, it's the plant's energy source, it's not the energy source for humans or animals. That's why you cannot eat raw potatoes, they are protected with toxins and glycoalkaloids, and no, cooking it does not remove all of the toxic substances.
I used to get sick and throw up after eating well cooked potatoes that were very hot.
@@User-pz4re "That is useless, I'm telling you that starch is not our natural diet and never will be." You are welcome to your personal opinion, but scientific research shows that the best overall long-term health outcomes have comes from diets in which most calories came from whole food carbs. There are no very high fat diets that have achieved overall long-term health and longevity. None.
Take care.
I'm trying to be vegan, saw this article and got a little concerned, but after seeing this video you've cleared all the BS for me.
Thank you!
I am a vegan of 6 years..Got my PhD in organic chemistry 2 years ago... does Zaria Gorvett have a PhD?
@@SaturatedCat It is not irrelevant. She said that vegans diets i.e. legumes, broccoli, apples, spinach etc. leads to brain damage, which is not true. If my brain was damaged I wouldn't be a scientist beacause of the brain damage. Besides..if you think that vegans only eat banans, you should do better research.
@@SaturatedCat You don't need to insult people. You were the one who told me to feed my baby with only babanas and got butthurt because of my success. Just do me a favor and go read a book or sth else
A friend of mine was végan for more then 20 years. She now has Alzheimer und lives in a care house . I was schocked to learn this news. To me she would be thé last person who should have this kind of health problem…
Mad respect for everything you do!
The author of that article should be fired. It's worrying that someone can fabricate misinformation like that on BBC.
i'm trying to be vegan myself i'm not trying to hate on veganism at all but india having a different male-female-birthratio doesn't seem scientific proof for anything to me - a) india is one of the countries where a lot of families still want a boy much rather than a girl and even if that doesn't make a big difference, there are probably still tons of other factors to look at before coming to the conclusion that this ratio proofs how wrong the mentioned study was
Our daughter barely eats any animal products, occasionally at the grandparents, and mostly eats whole food plant based. She is 25 month old and speaks German in sentences and understands most and speaks a little English (mostly because we live in Germany). Most people, including our pediatrician, are impressed with her cognitive and speech development. We only supplement B12, DHA/EPA and Vitamin D in Winter.
Some more anecdotal evidence. :-D
How odd. I was under the impression that the BBC was left-wing.
lmao no. The BBC is a biased network that serves as a government mouthpiece and always has been. It leans right, panders to conservatives and is increasingly more overt in this regard.
are u joking.. the point of the bbc originally was it was meant to be impartial but obv no media is impartial, they just report what ever suits their pockets
Even if they are many lefties are anti vegan as well. As much as people want to make veganism apolitical I honestly believe it’s one of the most leftist movements out there
T. Colin Campbell got screwed by the BBC:
ua-cam.com/video/OnQfXvOap9c/v-deo.html
nutritionstudies.org/british-broadcasting-corporation-bbc-your-credibility-is-tarnished/
@@celestialcow I'm not joking. the point of it was to be impartial and it purports to be impartial, but it isn't - this has actually been documented.
Pesticides in veg affect males unfortunately
"Does reading BBC articles reduce intelligence?"
Yes XD
It's quite interesting as a couple of years ago BBC Radio 4's Inside Science ran a piece on how the paleo diet was high on anecdotes but low on science. Anthropologists on the programme were saying how around 800, 000 years ago we started cooking starchy veg and this also coincided with a development in the amount and effectiveness of our amylase production. They credit this change to a subsequent marked increase in brain size and, although they didn't rule out the fish theory, they did point out that getting the brain fuel from cooked starch was far easier than relying on fish. I think they said that the brain accounts for 2% of our weight, but consumes 60% of our glucose. I'm also not convinced that DHA is good for the brain in massive preformed amounts. DHA has a very long half life in the brain and very little is required on a daily basis. Preformed is highly reactive with 6 double bonds, if it's not rancid before you consume it, our high body temperature will spoil it instantly and then the brain has to deal with neutralising a lot of unwelcome and unnecessary rancid DHA, diverting precious resources from elsewhere to do this. Thanks for these wonderful videos, they pack so much information into such a small amount of time. I watch them a few times on 0.75 speed. Incidentally, I'm 56 and having just had my blood tested by the NHS, my total and LDL cholesterol is 3.4 and 1.9 respectively, triglycerides 0.73, HgA1c was 5.2, PSA 0.43, plus iron, folate and B12 are good. I was really pleased about that as it's the first time I've been to my local surgery and I did mention that I watch my diet. As I left the Doctor said the results would be interesting in evaluating the effectiveness of my diet...I would have felt very embarrassed had the results turned out to be disappointing!
This is the first time that I'm glad that the UK isn't in the EU anymore (kind of kidding but the article is terrible).
Greetings from Austria. Keep up the good work Mic!
austria doesn't allow dual citzenship what the hell is up with that
@@celestialcow Incorrect. I actually have a dual citizenship (AUT/US) ;-) but there is indeed a debate about that going on in Austria. I'm certainly not saying that Austria is perfect, not at all. I'm not a patriot, though I like where I live and we do have lots of great social and health benefits (but also high taxes).
My critique was towards BBC, I don't have anything against the UK. Just don't want their crappy, biased state media channels to affect the opinions of other countries, that's all.
The reference range for creatine Kinase is 24 - 204 and mine came in at 419 from a blood test a few weeks ago. No creatine supplements, no animals since 2007.
Awesome video. Thanks Mic.
About choline, there are more lacto-vegetarians in India than the entire population of USA, and milk has very low levels of choline (lower than many common vegan foods), but Indian don’t have any brain issues (also India has very low rate of Alzheimer’s disease). India has been a predominantly lacto-vegetarian society for thousands of years, and no brain development issues in India.
Daily mail..... lol
Benjamin Franklin, Pythagoras, Leonardo DaVinci were vegetarians. Albert Einstein - "Nothing will benefit health or increase chances of survival on earth as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."
I saw this video was posted 9 seconds ago on my feed, nice timing hmmm...
In actual fact the 17m more men in India is due to the horrific female infanticide rate. This is why the ratios are skewed.
You really crack me up!🤣✌💚
My family members each did their online Mensa test and I happen to have the highest result by coincidence. I don’t think my plant based diet helped with that, it had more of an effect of my teeth development. I’m the only child (with a plant based inclination during childhood)who didn’t need braces and would always chew on veggies when young.
nice
There is a whole community in India(known as Jains) which follows vegetarian diet. And as a community, they are the most literate, rich and holds important positions in every sector..
Hilarious!
It doesn’t get mentioned enough that Daniel Negraneu, one of, if not the most successful poker player of all time has been vegan over 14 years.
Think what you will about gambling but being that successful at poker requires an incredible amount of fast paced mental processing over marathon length stretches of time.