@@JasonWitmerYT fortunately/unfortunately an ROGAlly. I think If I wanted another it would be a micro/Mini Build with some type of external/inter GPU support. I would want it for travel so small is good.
Both these ideas are good. iirc these CPUs allow a maximum of 2gb of ram to be allocated for the graphics. Meaning that leaves you with 6gb ram for everything else.
You can run most esports titles on Vega graphics satisfactorily. The real problem is trying to play esports titles in 2024 with a quad core non-HT CPU because they are all CPU intensive titles. It would be far better to just an M75Q with a 3400GE from the get go. They're $100 with 8GB RAM and a 256GB NVMe. But for $200, you can build something that will give you more than double the performance.
The cheapest pc I've built had an i3 4160, 1050ti, and 512gb ssd! Cost $56 but it involved dumpster diving and getting really lucky finding a completely working pc. Just had to buy the gpu and ssd...
I'm running a similar mini pc, but with an intel -5-7500t. It's a weaker cpu all around, but with a minor throttlestop tweak I'm running switch emulation full speed. With older cpus, emulation favours intel.
I'm the weird person who games on one of these. I stay at my brother's on a weekly basis and space isn't a luxury I have. So, not having any love for laptops, I opted to buy one of these devices. You're right, they aren't great or ideal gaming machines, but they keep you going well enough to have low spec, low frame rate fun with some expected stuttering here or there. It beats not playing games as all. But, considering that I hate laptops, This setup is a good bang for the buck considering my space and budget constraints. I got mine for $30 and did some very minor upgrades like adding another stick of RAM and adding an SSD for another $15.
A fifty dollar "gaming PC" would be an 3rd or 4th gen i5 Dell optiplex.($30) + $20 GPU.(GTX 650ti or an old AMD Firepro 4GB) And then upgrade parts little by little as money comes in
Nope, too much bottleneck on the CPU A $50 tiny gaming PC would be a Lenovo P330 or M920x with i3 8100Tor anything 8th -9th gen; it will play all retro games and emulation stuff without any hassles coz the iGPU is strong enough for older handhelds and consoles. This will have a good upgrade path too. You could put in a low profile GPU like an RX 6400 LP in it at a later date. And for the CPU u could upgrade to an i5 8500T or at max go upto i9 9900T eventually. So the build after upgrades would be $150 total even if u don't count selling the older cpu/GPU it will have. You can upgrade it while being able to play titles on it too. It's very efficient consuming only 35 watts on the CPU so it can be run as a media server or a NAS. And since the processor is modern enough it can hardware encode at better codecs like HEVC for ur HTPC needs.
@@MayankJairaj LOL I think you need to take a step back and actually look. 1060 and 1050ti's with i7 4790's and 4770's are the limit which are 4th gen. The i7 4770's and higher came out end of 2014 early 2015. the 1050's and 1060's came out early 2016. You really think that the top of the range CPU's in late 2014 are going to be bottlenecked by an entry and mid range card that came out 12-18 months later? LMAO. Do a bit of research. Too many people thinking they're experts because they watched youtube channels without any real world experience. And if you say well you can't play modern AAA games on them - FSR is a thing. It's been demonstrated they can still cut it at 1080p 60fps multiple times. You sacrifice some visual quality but it's more than acceptable.
Nice! Would be interesting to see a video of this upgraded or modded! The main thing would be to figure out a way to remove the tdp limit and improve cooling. Subbed!
Another use case for a PC like this is as a second monitor PC. My gaming PC takes a hit with 3 discord streams on the side + chrome. With all of that running on my laptop I don't have any FPS hits.
Video idea, do a similar build in a atx case, demonstrate the best upgrade path to Max out the potential. When save 8 dollars get a ram stick, 25 dollars to a ssd, 25 for a hhd etc
Any sort of eGPU solution with a secondhand 1060 or 2060 (or AMD equivalent) depending on price can help if financial capacity allows later. I get you wanted to stick with the $50 budget and this is a really good base to build from.
it is great , sadly i have not seen this specs at those prices on ebay , i'm from colombia so getting it on my local local school is a no got , but great video man
50$ for this tiny pc? It costs like 3-4 times or more in my country. If you are lucky could find an oem pc with 4th gen i3/4GB ran and a mechanical drive for 50$... Healthy used market makes it so much better playing with hardware ;) Can you replace the ryzen 3 with something stronger( undervolt for thermals) ?.
The high prices in my country for OEM PCs are because of authorized resellers. They buy the PCs at scrap iron prices, clean them and upcharge the hell out of them.
The cheapest PC I could put together that I would feel comfortable selling and make at least $100 in profit would cost about $265 to build. So cudos to you for even attempting something like this cuz I couldn't 😅.
I used one of these for a separate pc specifically for discord calls for 2 years, ran it 24/7 pretty much, (long distance) its super solid for that use case, I got a better pc for that stuff now, so I'm probably going to retire it to mine monero now lol. edit: I did put a 2400ge in the thing eventually though.
I have a few AMD APU systems. 2400G, 5700G, 5700U, 5620U and Z1 extreme. They are awesome to mess about with. The 2400G is ancient and not great, but it’s great for many indie titles. It’s what’s great about PC gaming. There are many games for every PC spec, no matter how slow.
Good video. Solid option. I have a similarly specced HP that I have loaded with Launchbox and Steam for emulation, and KODI to stream from my NAS, and it's anice little living room media box.
Technically speaking, you could buy any cheap old system that is running windows, get xbox gamepass and regardless of storage capacity you can stream xbox games with decent results, would be great with Nuc style pc's
First time seeing this channel. This video was nicely done. I thought the joke and legal disclaimer was a nice touch. I love these old office PCs in all of the form factors. The tiny ones are really cool, but do have their limitations. The 2200GE probably is the best you can do for the price. For the budget minded, it's worth keeping an eye out for the 2400G and GE which look to be about $80-90 now in tiny and SFF form factors. Perhaps they'll drop further soon. The 2400G and GEs with Vega 11 would be a nice GPU upgrade. But the 2200GE could be quite good for emulation up to PS2. I was actually surprised to see how well PS2, the games I tested at least, runs even on Intel chips with iGPUs. Tenchu 3 appeared to run at full speed on my i5-4570T Lenovo Tiny machines. The 2200GE will no doubt be much better and may be able to up the resolution as the 2400GE can. I had actually forgotten that the APUs do much better with dual channel, so all my PS2 testing was with one stick. I was recently messing around with that machine and Guilty Gear Xrd. I scavenged another DDR4 stick from a different mini office PC and the performance appeared to jump 40-50 percent and allowed me to turn on the nice post-processing effects, and I think some games may see even more of a performance boost from dual channel. Of course, I understand the budget constraints, but eventually getting a second RAM stick, which shouldn't be too expensive on ebay, would be worthwhile if my experience with the 2400GE is a good indicator.
$50 for this is a bargain. Vega 8 when it came out was somewhat capable and still is compared to Intel HD Graphics. Even the CPU alone the cheapest I found is $34 and here a mini PC for $50 would be an i3 pre-Skylake.
the only thing that I would say to change out of the box is AMD loves duel channel. spend the little extra and get the extra stick of ram. this would be the cheapest upgrade but will give better performance.
The cheapest one of these on UK eBay is £120.40, so around $160 USD. So over here I'd say it's far too expensive to use even as a stopgap measure. Which is a shame really as it would be perfect as an emulation box, running Batocera, to pop under a TV.
My pc was cooked because of power problems and the repair costed too much, wanted to give up on pc gaming and stuff and do all my work on my phone or ipad and do the gaming on ps5 until much later when I could afford a pc but found an old office pc in the basement with an i7 3770k and 8gb ram got an RX 580, two 4 gb sticks of ram and a 240 gb sata ssd all for 50 to 60 dollars 50 dollars was possible in my case lol
from what i can see you had just 1 stick of ram, amd igpus really dislike single channel memory. curious to see if it would do better with 2 ram sticks
Dang gaming pcs are so expensive these days I'm lacking i'm missing a ryzen 5900x and a Gpu also 4 Ram Sticks X_X im broke from just buying the motherboard and the cpu fan and the tower and all the blue fans to match the tower and the psu 1200w please jason witmer have mercey send me a DDR 4 16gb ram sticks and a used Ryzen 5900x Cpu
You can probably find an optiplex for free. And that leaves 50 dollars for an ssd and low profile gpu. A decent 256gb can be purchased for less than 20. which leaves 32 dollars for a gpu, which only gives you a couple options. The best one is the AMD Radeon Pro WX2100, which is worse than a gtx 1030 but still better than internal graphics. If you skip the ssd or find one for free then you can get up to a 1050ti for the 50 dollars.
If you wanna game on 50 bucks just get an older console in the used market, shit in my country with 50 bucks you can get not one, not two, but three whole ass PS2's, ooooorrrr you could just buy a PS3, Xbox 360, PSP or Nintendo DS ig 😒
@@CrocoDylianVT no they can't. You can't play Nintendo, sega, or dreamcast games on the ps3 or xbox 360. A pc can play all the cosoles games in one system not to mention emulations are free so you're not paying for multiple games on those consoles
Good luck with your channel bro. I understand you gotta pay bills and shit but I pay UA-cam every month already so I don't have to watch ads, so eff sponsored vids. No hate to you intended
oh playing league of legend ok sorry but guys dont listen this playing on phone and your 50 dollarrs stay in your budget for a good pc a good pc run little ar so much fps to that
50dollars 😊😅😅😅 ok with chance but your pc cant run all intereting game and its laptop parts , no performance no cores no gpu without external gpu 50dollar jou are a lier and said shot to your public for have click to your channel ok thinkcenter another video like other video stop your shit you know anythink about good pc its sur
Thanks for watching! What kind of PC are you using these days?
@@JasonWitmerYT fortunately/unfortunately an ROGAlly.
I think If I wanted another it would be a micro/Mini Build with some type of external/inter GPU support. I would want it for travel so small is good.
i5-11400f with an Rtx2060, does everything I need
Rocking an I5-10600k with a RTX 3050 8Gb. Nothing special but it gets me where I need to go 😂
I7 4770s Quadro k620
@@JasonWitmerYT I have a 10700k and 2070 Super, 3 of my kids all have R5 3600 and RX 5500 XT 8gb each, and the youngest has R3 3100 and RX 480 4gb.
Put a 3400g in there and see how it runs. Nice little upgrade lol
Yeah and upgrade the ram also try to increase tdp if possible
Both these ideas are good. iirc these CPUs allow a maximum of 2gb of ram to be allocated for the graphics. Meaning that leaves you with 6gb ram for everything else.
Not nice at all, didn't you see? You can barely cool smth like a 30W APU, don't even think of a 3400G which is 65W
You can run most esports titles on Vega graphics satisfactorily. The real problem is trying to play esports titles in 2024 with a quad core non-HT CPU because they are all CPU intensive titles.
It would be far better to just an M75Q with a 3400GE from the get go. They're $100 with 8GB RAM and a 256GB NVMe. But for $200, you can build something that will give you more than double the performance.
@@Lurch-Bot most is not as good as every
The cheapest pc I've built had an i3 4160, 1050ti, and 512gb ssd! Cost $56 but it involved dumpster diving and getting really lucky finding a completely working pc. Just had to buy the gpu and ssd...
I'm running a similar mini pc, but with an intel -5-7500t. It's a weaker cpu all around, but with a minor throttlestop tweak I'm running switch emulation full speed. With older cpus, emulation favours intel.
I'm the weird person who games on one of these. I stay at my brother's on a weekly basis and space isn't a luxury I have. So, not having any love for laptops, I opted to buy one of these devices. You're right, they aren't great or ideal gaming machines, but they keep you going well enough to have low spec, low frame rate fun with some expected stuttering here or there. It beats not playing games as all. But, considering that I hate laptops, This setup is a good bang for the buck considering my space and budget constraints. I got mine for $30 and did some very minor upgrades like adding another stick of RAM and adding an SSD for another $15.
Great video sir, also that "Nerd on a budget" seems like a big meanie.
Thank you! His DMs are even worse 😔
Danny is known for his bullying
I had no idea he was like that!!!! Good to know...
A fifty dollar "gaming PC" would be an 3rd or 4th gen i5 Dell optiplex.($30) + $20 GPU.(GTX 650ti or an old AMD Firepro 4GB) And then upgrade parts little by little as money comes in
Or, cheaper,but still capable 550TI!!
Well countrys have vast difference between price
If you stretch the budget another $10-20 you probably get a 1060 or 1050ti. I've seen 1050ti's and 1060 go for $50-60 and occasionally $40
Nope, too much bottleneck on the CPU
A $50 tiny gaming PC would be a Lenovo P330 or M920x with i3 8100Tor anything 8th -9th gen; it will play all retro games and emulation stuff without any hassles coz the iGPU is strong enough for older handhelds and consoles.
This will have a good upgrade path too.
You could put in a low profile GPU like an RX 6400 LP in it at a later date.
And for the CPU u could upgrade to an i5 8500T or at max go upto i9 9900T eventually.
So the build after upgrades would be $150 total even if u don't count selling the older cpu/GPU it will have. You can upgrade it while being able to play titles on it too.
It's very efficient consuming only 35 watts on the CPU so it can be run as a media server or a NAS.
And since the processor is modern enough it can hardware encode at better codecs like HEVC for ur HTPC needs.
@@MayankJairaj LOL I think you need to take a step back and actually look. 1060 and 1050ti's with i7 4790's and 4770's are the limit which are 4th gen. The i7 4770's and higher came out end of 2014 early 2015. the 1050's and 1060's came out early 2016. You really think that the top of the range CPU's in late 2014 are going to be bottlenecked by an entry and mid range card that came out 12-18 months later? LMAO. Do a bit of research. Too many people thinking they're experts because they watched youtube channels without any real world experience. And if you say well you can't play modern AAA games on them - FSR is a thing. It's been demonstrated they can still cut it at 1080p 60fps multiple times. You sacrifice some visual quality but it's more than acceptable.
Nice! Would be interesting to see a video of this upgraded or modded! The main thing would be to figure out a way to remove the tdp limit and improve cooling. Subbed!
Another use case for a PC like this is as a second monitor PC. My gaming PC takes a hit with 3 discord streams on the side + chrome. With all of that running on my laptop I don't have any FPS hits.
sick PC. How would performance improve with dual channel RAM? Maybe sell the 8GB Stick and buy 2x4GB Sticks.
Video idea, do a similar build in a atx case, demonstrate the best upgrade path to Max out the potential. When save 8 dollars get a ram stick, 25 dollars to a ssd, 25 for a hhd etc
Any sort of eGPU solution with a secondhand 1060 or 2060 (or AMD equivalent) depending on price can help if financial capacity allows later. I get you wanted to stick with the $50 budget and this is a really good base to build from.
it is great , sadly i have not seen this specs at those prices on ebay , i'm from colombia so getting it on my local local school is a no got , but great video man
50$ for this tiny pc? It costs like 3-4 times or more in my country. If you are lucky could find an oem pc with 4th gen i3/4GB ran and a mechanical drive for 50$... Healthy used market makes it so much better playing with hardware ;) Can you replace the ryzen 3 with something stronger( undervolt for thermals) ?.
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The high prices in my country for OEM PCs are because of authorized resellers. They buy the PCs at scrap iron prices, clean them and upcharge the hell out of them.
The cheapest PC I could put together that I would feel comfortable selling and make at least $100 in profit would cost about $265 to build.
So cudos to you for even attempting something like this cuz I couldn't 😅.
I used one of these for a separate pc specifically for discord calls for 2 years, ran it 24/7 pretty much, (long distance) its super solid for that use case, I got a better pc for that stuff now, so I'm probably going to retire it to mine monero now lol.
edit: I did put a 2400ge in the thing eventually though.
I have a few AMD APU systems. 2400G, 5700G, 5700U, 5620U and Z1 extreme. They are awesome to mess about with. The 2400G is ancient and not great, but it’s great for many indie titles. It’s what’s great about PC gaming. There are many games for every PC spec, no matter how slow.
5300g is pretty fun to mess around with as well
I mean, if that m.2 is NVME...you could totally run a pcie riser from it and get 4 lanes if pcie. It woukd work for gaming at low settings with a gpu.
Good video. Solid option. I have a similarly specced HP that I have loaded with Launchbox and Steam for emulation, and KODI to stream from my NAS, and it's anice little living room media box.
I love the War Greymon and Blue Eyes White dragon those are my favorites as well.
Technically speaking, you could buy any cheap old system that is running windows, get xbox gamepass and regardless of storage capacity you can stream xbox games with decent results, would be great with Nuc style pc's
Nice, It would be definitely worth retesting with 16gb dual channel memory.
First time seeing this channel. This video was nicely done. I thought the joke and legal disclaimer was a nice touch. I love these old office PCs in all of the form factors. The tiny ones are really cool, but do have their limitations. The 2200GE probably is the best you can do for the price. For the budget minded, it's worth keeping an eye out for the 2400G and GE which look to be about $80-90 now in tiny and SFF form factors. Perhaps they'll drop further soon. The 2400G and GEs with Vega 11 would be a nice GPU upgrade. But the 2200GE could be quite good for emulation up to PS2. I was actually surprised to see how well PS2, the games I tested at least, runs even on Intel chips with iGPUs. Tenchu 3 appeared to run at full speed on my i5-4570T Lenovo Tiny machines. The 2200GE will no doubt be much better and may be able to up the resolution as the 2400GE can.
I had actually forgotten that the APUs do much better with dual channel, so all my PS2 testing was with one stick. I was recently messing around with that machine and Guilty Gear Xrd. I scavenged another DDR4 stick from a different mini office PC and the performance appeared to jump 40-50 percent and allowed me to turn on the nice post-processing effects, and I think some games may see even more of a performance boost from dual channel. Of course, I understand the budget constraints, but eventually getting a second RAM stick, which shouldn't be too expensive on ebay, would be worthwhile if my experience with the 2400GE is a good indicator.
A second ram stick in dual channel will help a lot the iGPU
Toss another stick of ram in, 1% lows will improve for sure
$50 for this is a bargain. Vega 8 when it came out was somewhat capable and still is compared to Intel HD Graphics. Even the CPU alone the cheapest I found is $34 and here a mini PC for $50 would be an i3 pre-Skylake.
The type of games,as "World of Tanks/Warships", especially the "Blitz" version would run,IMHO.
I've been seeing a few 5600G powered mini PCs for dirt cheap recently.
I use to play games like this on old laptop in window mode low resolution
the only thing that I would say to change out of the box is AMD loves duel channel. spend the little extra and get the extra stick of ram. this would be the cheapest upgrade but will give better performance.
The cheapest one of these on UK eBay is £120.40, so around $160 USD. So over here I'd say it's far too expensive to use even as a stopgap measure. Which is a shame really as it would be perfect as an emulation box, running Batocera, to pop under a TV.
My pc was cooked because of power problems and the repair costed too much, wanted to give up on pc gaming and stuff and do all my work on my phone or ipad and do the gaming on ps5 until much later when I could afford a pc
but found an old office pc in the basement with an i7 3770k and 8gb ram
got an RX 580, two 4 gb sticks of ram and a 240 gb sata ssd all for 50 to 60 dollars
50 dollars was possible in my case lol
00:30 actually made me laugh out loud 😂
A 16GB dual channel RAM will alleviate the stutters and it will be a very decent 720p/900p gaming machine for esports
Might be a cute emulation station
nice camera just too expensive for me, lol, would like to have though.
Jason did u forget to do the pc flip videos 6 months ago or is it just me (i was scrolling down the community page)
I only did one PC flip video. I decided against doing more for personal reasons - tons of other youtubers making that kind of content though!
What would be a good prebuilt pc for playing command and conquer remastered collection? Looking for a cheap setup.
Can you adjust the vram in the bios? It could help some.
Any PC is a gaming PC, it just depends on what resolution you play in...
from what i can see you had just 1 stick of ram, amd igpus really dislike single channel memory. curious to see if it would do better with 2 ram sticks
a ram and cpu and storage upgrade is much nedeed
i seen a logitech g203 in the background
Id be interested to see this with another 8gb of ram
try to make and egpu setup with this
Maybe You Should Check M920Q
Which Has A Secret😅
The secret is that its not $50
@@JasonWitmerYTNope , I Know Price Situation, But At Least Is Give Compact Gaming Pc Smaller than Dell Optiplex
*It can play games, therefore it's a gaming PC lol*
Agreed ❤️
My brothers Chromebook can run roller coaster tycoon so it’s a gaming PC
@@TheNutshaq Incorrect! It's gaming laptop 😂
@@AlexHusTech thats fair
just put a ryzen 5 2400ge in with 16 gb of ram boom entry level gaming pc
whats the "best" cpu you can put on this tiny pc?
Gyst
next week we have a 1,34 euro game pc
Something tells me the issue is def the RAM
Nice now build a 25$ one
Now make a gaming PC only from free parts. :D
An alternative option is buying a gaming laptop with a cracked screen. $50 should be enough for one with a GTX 1650 or faster.
Dang gaming pcs are so expensive these days I'm lacking i'm missing a ryzen 5900x and a Gpu also 4 Ram Sticks X_X im broke from just buying the motherboard and the cpu fan and the tower and all the blue fans to match the tower and the psu 1200w please jason witmer have mercey send me a DDR 4 16gb ram sticks and a used Ryzen 5900x Cpu
Lol and then the BSOD 😂
Do a $37 gaming pc.
110 second at at 2:22 and ends at 4:12
In my country, $50 just for ps2 😅
At 65000% GPU utilization it should be getting more FPS. 😂
Apex looks and runs like the switch version lol
Babe, wake up, Jason uploaded!
(lets be honest if you are a pc nerd you most likely don't have a gf lol)(no hate intended)
Well jokes on you man, married to my beautiful wife for almost 6 years now.
@@MrEffectfilmsThat is why for a reason I said "no hate intended" I have a gf myself, but I was just making a joke.@MrEffectfilms
@@whataboutdis. Lol I know man, I was just joking back, not about the wife though, she's real 😁.
@@MrEffectfilms lol, mb for not getting It
Honestly you’d be better off getting a laptop at that point.
You can probably find an optiplex for free. And that leaves 50 dollars for an ssd and low profile gpu. A decent 256gb can be purchased for less than 20. which leaves 32 dollars for a gpu, which only gives you a couple options. The best one is the AMD Radeon Pro WX2100, which is worse than a gtx 1030 but still better than internal graphics. If you skip the ssd or find one for free then you can get up to a 1050ti for the 50 dollars.
Hey I hate to be that guy, but man you're wrong about the letters in the name. The G stands for "Good" and the E stands for "Egg"
Oh snap, my bad
The real trick is to find someone who will give you a whole bunch of money to take away their expensive not very old high end custom gaming PC.
This is the real play, everyone. Be on the lookout!!
$20 computer only stream games 😂😂😂
NOAB is out of pocket
he is an absolute menace
See, that's the thing. I must first be out of pocket, in order to get inside of Jason's pockets. It was just a necessity
Oh god, this is like when your bully follows you home 😲
Make a 20$ gaming pc
When the sponsor is almost longer than the video itself
Wut.... Define... PC. At this point lol
It's definitely a PC - its just the "gaming pc" we might need to define haha
Gaming PC is like saying race car. Technically you can race any car, and you can game on any pc.
Ok but when my build coming 😔
If you wanna game on 50 bucks just get an older console in the used market, shit in my country with 50 bucks you can get not one, not two, but three whole ass PS2's, ooooorrrr you could just buy a PS3, Xbox 360, PSP or Nintendo DS ig 😒
But this pc can play ps2 games
@@88-bit-tech so can a PS2 or a PS3 either with a backwards compatible model or homebrew
@@CrocoDylianVT but this pc can also play xbox, dreamcast, nintendo, sega etc
@@88-bit-tech yeah a PS3 or Xbox 360 can too
@@CrocoDylianVT no they can't. You can't play Nintendo, sega, or dreamcast games on the ps3 or xbox 360. A pc can play all the cosoles games in one system not to mention emulations are free so you're not paying for multiple games on those consoles
how much did yu have the 3d resolution on in fortnite and what should ii put mines on if im playing on 1080p
Good luck with your channel bro. I understand you gotta pay bills and shit but I pay UA-cam every month already so I don't have to watch ads, so eff sponsored vids. No hate to you intended
oh playing league of legend ok sorry but guys dont listen this playing on phone and your 50 dollarrs stay in your budget for a good pc a good pc run little ar so much fps to that
50dollars 😊😅😅😅 ok with chance but your pc cant run all intereting game and its laptop parts , no performance no cores no gpu without external gpu 50dollar jou are a lier and said shot to your public for have click to your channel ok thinkcenter another video like other video stop your shit you know anythink about good pc its sur
buy a 2nd stick of ram and compare to see how it performs in dual channel.
screw gaming, I'm turning that machine into a media server!!