You might consider the Lenovo M920x or Lenovo P330 Tiny. These tiny PCs also have ventilation on their top covers. Additionally, you can check eBay for Lenovo M920x or Lenovo P330 Tiny top cover replacements; these top covers also fit the Lenovo M920q and Lenovo M720q. Thank you.
I built mine with a M720q, i5, and WX3100 4gb. Used a Drill directly on the top cover. Using a 65W plug. Power is split equally 32W and 32W each. GPU on God of War usage 100%, Vram 3.9 Gb, Shared Ram 9.2 Gb.... 1080p. Same settings as yours. Total cost 300 Eur, included a 2Tb 970 Samsung Nvme and 32Gb Ram. Love it.
Thank you for the awesome feedback! I'm glad you find the projects cool. While adding a Lenovo logo would definitely give it an OEM look, I don't have the rights to use their logo on my custom designs. However, I'm always exploring new ways to enhance my builds. Stay tuned for more innovative projects!
For the heat-sink they use thermally conductive adhesive transfer tape, there's no need to remove it nor re-paste it
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I having a 1L case same this too, using M910X with quadro T1000. I don't have 3D printer so I cut CNC the origin case to make holes LOL. Hope you share more files about 3d case again, that is wonderful, thank you
Now should solder a female connector for the second M.2 Nvme slot!!! guide!!! The space is there, the traces are there... only needs a little solder job....
You could integrate the shroud design into the top plate of the case along with the fan mounts. That would make for a completely reversible mod to both the PC and card, as it leaves all the original hardware at most unscrewed.
hey! nice video, I had this build a while ago, but I recently followed ur previous build because the RTX 3050 6gb LP is more powerful than the RX6400, What I want to try too is to install an A2000 with this new case cover.
I think we can use Dell Optiplex Micro models like the Dell 3050, 3060, and 3070 Micro to install a GPU like the RTX 3050 LP, RTX A2000, or even the RTX 4060 LP. However, the process and method to achieve this are complex and difficult to follow. The Dell Optiplex Micro series do not have PCIe slots, but we can use an M.2 to PCIe x16 adapter to install the GPU over the M.2 slot. This way, we will sacrifice the M.2 SSD and only use a 2.5 SATA. Since the Dell Optiplex series have no PCIe slots, we cannot use any power from the PC itself. To overcome this problem, we need to use a Pico PSU board to power the GPU. Also, we need to design a 3D enclosure for the PC, and it must be significantly thicker than the original size. As I measured, it will be 80mm thick, making the total volume of this micro PC up to 2.6L. The overall result might not be worth it for everyone since the size is bigger. However, we can buy the Dell Optiplex 3050 Micro for an extremely cheap price of just around $50, so it would be fun to try it.
cant seem to get the top cover to fit on properly with the sapphire pulse installed, the heat sink is making contact with the top cover preventing me from closing the lid fully
I have the P330 with the Sapphire RX 6400. Do you think the GPU temperatures will be better with one of these case covers? Right now, it hovers between 75 and 80°C during gaming. If so, which one would you recommend? I see you have a new full mesh version as well as the honeycomb design.
@dexter_hacks i have one these cases and I just got my rx 6400 sapphire today and it does not fit with this case on it unfortunately , you will definitely have to make some adjustments to the 3d file , the xfx 6400 cooler is just a little bit smaller then the sapphire one
You can add 3dprinters fans to help heat sink , since are 5v, 8 and 12 v. versions , im have a lenovos sff and help a lot with heat problems in gpus lp like rx 550 4gb 128b in warm places contryes
Hey cool, I have the same build although for the case I’m opting for dremmel + pc fan mesh. But mine has a problem where the GPU only use ~20w. Still tinkering around
Hey, thanks for the suggestion! I’m not familiar with Batocera, but it sounds interesting. I'll look into it and consider making a video about it in the future. Stay tuned!
being compact is nice but i think theres not enough airflow and too close gpu almost touching components below is making heat problem. maybe design a small gap between gpu and other components, then slip in another small fan in between with holes at the side of case to blow out more hot air. the way i see the current design, some hot air are trapped inside causing the temp rise into 75C even when idle no game movement. . this problem often occure in thin laptop design. theres always a fight between performance and thin design, who gonna compromise is how the final design came out
if you want a more polished and durable case and mount i suggest use a 3d printing service with polycarbonate material, sure it's expensive in the long run but it's worth it in the short run, it will be more smoother and more durable than abs but you do yours i guess
@@itggear I don't plan to do something like this, since I already have a gaming pc, and a mini pc in all my rooms in their default configuration. I was just merely suggesting some mods that I thought would be more efficient and both keeping the temps down and keep the dust level down.
You can also check out my other video. There are a lot of designs there, including full mesh, half mesh, honeycomb, square, and many more. This video shows just one option. Also, as the GPU and CPU use a blower fan, it means that as long as the ventilation covers the fan, it's enough since those fans will exhaust the hot air outside the case. You might have noticed that the XFX RX6400 runs a bit hot, but this temperature is not affected by the top cover ventilation. It's hot by itself, even in an open-air setup. The reason why OEM PCs don't include much ventilation in their designs is that doing so would make the PC run very loud, so they design solid cases to improve acoustics.
Yes, but it costs $50 before tax and shipping. Also, the cover of the P330 Tiny is designed for a Quadro GPU, so if you install an AMD GPU, it will only cover half of the GPU fan, which could lead to overheating. For this 3D printed case, it costs around $2 to print all these parts. Thank you.
@@itggear Thanks for the help. It costs a lot more than that when I'd have to buy a 3D printer to print it. For my specific use case it's cost effective to buy one. I'll be using an RTX 2000E on mine, so it looks as if it lines up. Just wasn't sure whether the P340 fit was the same as the older M920q/P330. Very much appreciate the answer, thanks again!
Hello! Im impressed with the performance of all the tiny pc you´ve mounted, but I´ve been investigating, and the RX6400 Doesnt need an aditional power supply on the side of the gpu??
@itggear okayyy!! One more thing, I heard the voice of the resident evil game I think, and it was in Spanish are you from algún país hispanohablante y estamos aquí hablando en la lengua de Shakespeare? 😂
Create video, my friend. I just want to ask about the performance of the rx 6400. I heard that this card needs to be at pci express gen 4 for the maximum performance, especially new games Second question: Did you buy a new Psu charger for more power since you added a gpu Thanks my friend
A monitor with a high refresh rate and a program called Lossless Scaling will help. For example, if your monitor supports 120hz. With Losses Scaling frame generation. You can play the game in 120fps. The monitor literally does all the work. GPU's shouldn't be the focus anymore. Focus on a monitor with a high refresh rate. Old CRT monitors do great. Old tech but great for lossless scaling.
@itggear3400 It's recommend to use 30fps. A base of 30fps will give you the true feeling of high fps. Anything below 30 will feel like a slow motion of 60fps and higher. So try to play all your games in 30fps to play in 120fps or whatever your display refresh rate gives you. I'm using a CRT TV for smash Flash 2. The game itself is stuck at 30fps but I'm playing in 75fps because of the old TV with 75HZ. 👍
@itggear3400 I figured out something interesting today. Somehow my 60HZ TV is allowing 145HZ??? I used a program called "Custom Resolution Utility" to turn my TV into 144.94HZ it came out to be 145HZ and it's working. I'm using a HDMI to RF modulator to send my PC single to the TV. I'm wondering if it's because it's just using a RF cable and not a true HDMI cable. Meaning I'm converting HDMI HD into old analog RF cable. Somehow the TV is accepting the 145HZ 😁. Now I'm playing my 30fps PC games in 120fps because 30FPS times 4 is 120FPS. I'm not complaining. 👍 Try Custom Resolution Utility with a old TV and a modulator and get the most fps on weak PC.
OOH BOY IM WONDERING IF MY DELL OPTIPLEX 5070 CAN DO THIS THIS MOPS THE FLOOR WITH THE PS 5 MAYBE ILL JUST LOOK FOR ONE WITH RYZEN CPU ON EBAY AND ONE OF THESE GPU SOO PROMISSING BRO I SUBBED
I was confused too but in another comment he mentioned that the south bridge heatsink he installed made it not throttle despite PROCHOT being enabled. But he also said it would eventually throttle after a while of gaming.
One more comment I completely forgot about. If you don't have a old CRT TV. HDTV still except analog signals even tho analog is dead. So if you only got a HDTV. You can use Custom Resolution Utility to get 144.94HZ and a HDMI to RF modulator to take advantage of Losses Scaling.😅
I prefer this card and its sister the Pro Wx3100 with no need for extra power connectors over the nvidia one. Also the Radeons are all small like the nvidia Quadro series. The Rtx series the card are too big for this build. The Rx6400 is just the perfect card. The Wx3100 is longer and the Bluetooth Antenna doesnt fit well. The Rx6400 is just perfect size. But more expensive...
What an interesting project good work ❤ Can you test some emulation like batocera , retrobat and Xbox 360 and PS3 ? Also I was wondering if I can upgrade the CPU to a non T version like a i7 8700 / i7 9700 without any problems
Thank you for the kind words! Testing emulation like Batocera, Retrobat, Xbox 360, and PS3 sounds like a fantastic idea. I'll definitely look into it for a future video. As for the CPU upgrade, the Lenovo M920q does not support non-T Intel CPUs. For upgrading to a non-T version like the i7 8700 or i7 9700, you might want to consider the Lenovo M920x or P330 Tiny, which do support those CPUs.
@@itggear okey then I'll look for those models and pait it with an RTX 3050 LP and leave it without the cover for better airflow, thank you very much for your help
If you're considering installing a GPU card on a Lenovo 1L tiny PC, here are some important factors to consider: - Larger AC Adapter: A 230W or 300W adapter is recommended. - 65W CPU Cooler Heatsink: Even if you install a 35W CPU, you still need a 65W cooler because it also covers the VRM chip nearby the CPU. - Aluminum Plate Heatsink for Southbridge: This heatsink can help reduce throttling caused by BD-PROCHOT. - Ventilation Top Cover: You can use a 3D printed cover or one from Lenovo M920x or P330 Tiny, which have ventilation over the GPU area. - Choose the Right Model: To install a GPU on a Lenovo 1L PC without modification, consider Lenovo M910x, M920X, P330, M90q, P340, P350, or P360. Thank you!
Hi, great video !! What do you think about m715q (amd a6-8570e) m93p (i5 4570t) and m910q (i5 6500T) for same modification with rx 6400 ? Thanks for your reply
@@faystoface3134 If you're looking for a Lenovo Tiny PC with a PCIe slot, you should consider the ThinkStation Series instead of the IdeaCentre Series. The Lenovo M93p you mentioned also does not have a PCIe slot.
In this video, I use a 3mm thermal pad. However, I haven't measured the pre-applied pad on this heatsink. I think 2mm or 3mm is okay because if it’s too thin, it might not contact all the chips on the PCB. Thank you.
Not worth doing that with just an RX6400, todays APU like the 7840U or Strix Point are as fast as that. The RTX A2000 is the card to use in this build, either with the single slot heatsink mod or by 3d printing a slightly bigger top panel for the case
Yes, it is possible. Many people use this PC as a fast network device by installing a 10G NIC PCIe card, so you can definitely install a PCIe sound card to upgrade the sound output.
It won't help CPU throttling; it helps prevent the chipset from overheating and throttling, which can cause the motherboard to overheat and trigger BD-PROCHOT. Thank you.
@@itggear Will this allow me to run a T series processor without gimping the wattage? I remember you saying elsewhere that it wasn't the CPU that was the barrier to temperatures on these Tiny models.
what does the added heatsink help with exactly? i'm thinking about getting one, but am unsure if it actually does anything useful. does it help taking a few degrees from the cpu, eventhough it's not sat on there or is it for the chipset only?
Also when using the heatsink, do i still have to use a piece of cardboard above it? im planning on using a RX6400 Sapphire Pulse. It also does not have a backplate like the 3050 where you placed cardboard in between.
It could help this PC run without BD-PROCHOT throttle. For normal use, the CPU runs at full power, 35W, without using the ThrottleStop app. However, based on my testing, long gaming sessions still cause throttling. Thank you.
you know, although rx 6400 is great low profile gpu, for me I would wait for next gen AMD gpu since they go back to middle and entry level gaming gpu and fail to gain margin in high-end gpu, hopefully AMD will release move low profile, single slot gpu with RDNA4
RX 6400 will perform worse on i5-8500t as it does not support Smart access memory? How does it compare with supported and unsupported cpu, especially the ryzen 2400g? please make a comparison video with 2400g with rx6400..
@@MrGeo044 can you clarify which screw you mean: the PCIe bracket screw, the GPU bracket screw, or something else? I didn't get that. However, I used all existing screws that came with this PC. For example, I removed the DP port option board and its bracket, and I used that screw to secure the GPU. I didn't need any other screws. Thank you.
@@MrGeo044 Oh! thank you for clarifying. For the 3D-printed screw hole, I designed a 6mm diameter hexagon so you can use a motherboard standoff screw and a soldering iron to embed it into the 3D-printed bracket. If you have bought a PC case before, you can find the motherboard standoff screw in your PC case screw box. You can use an M3x5 flat head or the original screw to secure the bracket to the case. I would recommend you print with 100% infill for better strength. Thank you.
Would that bracket also work on a 10th gen model? I see this works on a p330 to, I happen to have a p340, and have the rx6400 in there, just have no bracket used for it.
I figured I would ask here since you have the card linked in the description. Does the PCIe slot support the full 75W of power delivery, or is it limited below that? I'm looking at dropping a modded 3050 6GB into mine for some extra GPU power, but I want to make sure the slot can handle its 70W TDP.
In fact, the M920q and M720q don't support GPUs by default, and I showed how to do it in this video. If you're looking for a Lenovo Tiny PC in this series that supports GPUs, please take a look at the P330 Tiny or M920X. These two models can support up to a 50W GPU when paired with a 35W CPU. I'm sorry, but I don't have exact data on how many watts the PCIe slot can supply. Thank you.
@@itggear All good, thanks! I've been shopping around for the M920x as I reached that same realization on my own when no models on Lenovo's website had none with GPUs, just NICs and drive sleds. It appears that the slot is a full x8 slot in a weird shape, so the full 75W should be available if the GPU has the means to pull it. I was considering an RTX3050 6GB for mine, but if that draws too much power, I suppose an rx6400 will have to do.
@@DigitalJediI have m920q and the Yeston single slot LP RTX 3050. In this video it shows he’s pulling 69 watts and I pull about 60 watts while gaming on the 3050 but u keep having random full shutdowns. Not sure if it’s the power supply or lack of PCIe power, I have 230 watt brick. I also disabled PROCHOT
Quick update on this. I ended up with a P330, which is functionally the same as the others. I ended up with a 60W GPU power limit as going beyond this caused the chipset or something else on the motherboard under the shield that the GPU covers to overheat and trip power. An unnamed sensor near the chipset in HWInfo was logging 104C before shutdown, and after digging through some Intel docs, that chipset does indeed shut down the system for safety at 105C package temp. Replacing the thermal pads there or getting that shield connected to something with more direct cooling would allow for the full 75W, as I was able to pull that with a riser between the slot adapter and the GPU.
I did not swap the CPU cooler in this setup since I am using an Intel Core i5-8500T, which is a 35W TDP CPU. Also, this Lenovo M920q does not support 65W CPUs, which means if we install a 65W CPU, it will run at around 5W only, resulting in very slow performance.
It is possible to install the RX550 LP with its bracket. However, you might not be able to close the lid completely since the bracket will take up some space at the back where the top cover hinge goes through. Thank you.
That honeycomb case design is beautiful.
I think so too!
You might consider the Lenovo M920x or Lenovo P330 Tiny. These tiny PCs also have ventilation on their top covers. Additionally, you can check eBay for Lenovo M920x or Lenovo P330 Tiny top cover replacements; these top covers also fit the Lenovo M920q and Lenovo M720q. Thank you.
I built mine with a M720q, i5, and WX3100 4gb. Used a Drill directly on the top cover. Using a 65W plug. Power is split equally 32W and 32W each. GPU on God of War usage 100%, Vram 3.9 Gb, Shared Ram 9.2 Gb.... 1080p. Same settings as yours. Total cost 300 Eur, included a 2Tb 970 Samsung Nvme and 32Gb Ram. Love it.
Which i5?
@@AMDRyzen57500F 8th gen , probably 8400t or 8500t, m720q doesnt came with non T cpus
@@AMDRyzen57500F 8400T
Watch out for Samsung firmware bug
@@gonedoneggonedoneg9863 970 Disk has been trimmed ready with a mac before, Idk if its relevant...
Nice reference to ETAs work!
These systems are worth a closer look at the given price point and form factor.
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These projects are immensely cool. Would be cool to see a lenovo logo put on the custom plastic cover for that oem look
Thank you for the awesome feedback! I'm glad you find the projects cool. While adding a Lenovo logo would definitely give it an OEM look, I don't have the rights to use their logo on my custom designs. However, I'm always exploring new ways to enhance my builds. Stay tuned for more innovative projects!
This is great setup for TV pc, some light games/emulation and media streaming. Nice man!
Thank you for watching!
ETA Prime gang where are you?
bro is more ETA prime than ETA prime himself now a days
Yeah where are all the people that support sellouts?
More eta prime that eta prime? Sign me up
For the heat-sink they use thermally conductive adhesive transfer tape, there's no need to remove it nor re-paste it
I having a 1L case same this too, using M910X with quadro T1000. I don't have 3D printer so I cut CNC the origin case to make holes LOL.
Hope you share more files about 3d case again, that is wonderful, thank you
Me too, with a bricklayers drill!!! The important thing is the flow, and my friends told me it's got an artistic touch!
Brooo i have this exact pc i use it for emulation i didnt know u can do this im definitely gonna do this so emulation can run smoother thanks!!!
Have fun
The hoynecomb case its great! You are awesome, subscribed!!!
This project is amazing. Gonna start looking for one of these tiny pcs, and a 3d printer.
This sort of build is a perfect fit for Steam OS
Love the Northridgefix reference
One of the most underrated YT channel ❤
Now should solder a female connector for the second M.2 Nvme slot!!! guide!!! The space is there, the traces are there... only needs a little solder job....
There is one on GitHub, not a job for the faint of heart as it’s more than the M.2 connector that needs soldering.
That female connector where to find only
@@yuanchoy2 broken donor motherboard?
@@SeeJayPlayGames Aliexpress and ebay has them also, but needs to triple check the dimensions, as there are multiple variants.
there is more components to populate to get that m.2 slot working there is kits available online
Love these videos!! Great work❣️
Incredible, nice project. I kind of want something like this myself
i love how think centers can operate as little home servers too
Nice work! You could deshroud the gpu and replace with small noctua fans and make a fan duct for both cpu and gpu as a next step for noice😊
Cool idea
@@itggearI’d love to see it!
was about to say something like this for the 3050lp build, i think a deshroud mod would help with the sizing plus using noctua fans
You could integrate the shroud design into the top plate of the case along with the fan mounts. That would make for a completely reversible mod to both the PC and card, as it leaves all the original hardware at most unscrewed.
hey! nice video, I had this build a while ago, but I recently followed ur previous build because the RTX 3050 6gb LP is more powerful than the RX6400, What I want to try too is to install an A2000 with this new case cover.
Just get a single slot GTX 1650
Also the zotac 3050 could be modded to single slot
Rx 6400 losses 10% performance when on pcie 3.0 also keep in mind slower than 1650
Awesome tiny console/pc great work :)!
Nice update version that Lenovo mini pc
Thats my set up now lmao and im using the 100w adapter no probs at all
Have the exact same setup, so handy, any chance you can also upload the honeycomb design, that looks mint
I've updated the model files on Printables, including the honeycomb top cover. Thank you.
@itggear3400 Legend, can't wait to see what else you create
Nice 3d printed covers. I have the same pc in white (NEC model) currently runing with 9400t and rx 550. Waiting on rx6400 to arrive
I am actually waiting on an optiplex sff to come in as well as that same graphics card, but this is really cool.
I think we can use Dell Optiplex Micro models like the Dell 3050, 3060, and 3070 Micro to install a GPU like the RTX 3050 LP, RTX A2000, or even the RTX 4060 LP. However, the process and method to achieve this are complex and difficult to follow. The Dell Optiplex Micro series do not have PCIe slots, but we can use an M.2 to PCIe x16 adapter to install the GPU over the M.2 slot. This way, we will sacrifice the M.2 SSD and only use a 2.5 SATA. Since the Dell Optiplex series have no PCIe slots, we cannot use any power from the PC itself. To overcome this problem, we need to use a Pico PSU board to power the GPU. Also, we need to design a 3D enclosure for the PC, and it must be significantly thicker than the original size. As I measured, it will be 80mm thick, making the total volume of this micro PC up to 2.6L. The overall result might not be worth it for everyone since the size is bigger. However, we can buy the Dell Optiplex 3050 Micro for an extremely cheap price of just around $50, so it would be fun to try it.
@@itggear yeah i thought about looking into dells micro computers but i stayed away since no one was making videos about em
I prefer the small form factors for on the go purpose. Like incase of emergency situation and other similar factors.
awesome BD-PROCHOT is fixed 😍
cant seem to get the top cover to fit on properly with the sapphire pulse installed, the heat sink is making contact with the top cover preventing me from closing the lid fully
it is good for my little brother
wow nice job buddy i hope if i can get 1 portable mini pc like dat one
Thank you so much for sharing this project with us 🙏
this is pure art
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Great video. 👍
Thanks for the visit
Very good idea ❤🎉
I have the P330 with the Sapphire RX 6400. Do you think the GPU temperatures will be better with one of these case covers? Right now, it hovers between 75 and 80°C during gaming. If so, which one would you recommend? I see you have a new full mesh version as well as the honeycomb design.
@dexter_hacks i have one these cases and I just got my rx 6400 sapphire today and it does not fit with this case on it unfortunately , you will definitely have to make some adjustments to the 3d file , the xfx 6400 cooler is just a little bit smaller then the sapphire one
@@ImAlamo Ah, thanks for the update. I'll use the default case for now. The P330 does have some vents, but it still covers around 30-40% of the fan.
You can add 3dprinters fans to help heat sink , since are 5v, 8 and 12 v. versions , im have a lenovos sff and help a lot with heat problems in gpus lp like rx 550 4gb 128b in warm places contryes
Nice work, I really like it 🤓
Glad you like it!
Hey cool, I have the same build although for the case I’m opting for dremmel + pc fan mesh. But mine has a problem where the GPU only use ~20w. Still tinkering around
Amazing!
Can you do a batocera video too?
Hey, thanks for the suggestion! I’m not familiar with Batocera, but it sounds interesting. I'll look into it and consider making a video about it in the future. Stay tuned!
I have one of these with a Tesla P4. Pretty neat little guy. Sadly there are no 200w+ lenovo power brick at my local space.
Very nice build ;) Respect
Eu montei um desse! fonte de 90w roda Perfeitamente
That's awesome to hear! It's great to know that a 90W power supply works perfectly for your build. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@itggear Core i5 9500t + 32gb + rx 6400 + Fonte 90w , Funciona Perfeitamente
Esto es un ordenador portátil digno
Now all you need to do is get a Core i7 6700T to finish it up. Great video and cheers!
I was just about to comment if you could put a rx6400 in another video but i guess you already have the video
Great job and beautiful execution. I just want to know if something similar can be done on the Dell Mini Pc 3060
Dell Optiplex 3060 Micro doesn't have a PCIe slot. Thank you.
Bro you and eta prime are the same guy i caught you 😅
Next week is my birthday give me this as a gift ❤
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time for a Yeston 3060 LP
being compact is nice but i think theres not enough airflow and too close gpu almost touching components below is making heat problem. maybe design a small gap between gpu and other components, then slip in another small fan in between with holes at the side of case to blow out more hot air. the way i see the current design, some hot air are trapped inside causing the temp rise into 75C even when idle no game movement.
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this problem often occure in thin laptop design. theres always a fight between performance and thin design, who gonna compromise is how the final design came out
Thanks for your input! The RX 6400 has heat issues due to its small fan, even in open-air setups. Appreciate your insights!
if you want a more polished and durable case and mount i suggest use a 3d printing service with polycarbonate material, sure it's expensive in the long run but it's worth it in the short run, it will be more smoother and more durable than abs but you do yours i guess
Thank you for the suggestion! I'll definitely consider using polycarbonate material for a more polished and durable case. Your input is appreciated!
That Case is awsome! Can you make it for the RTx a2000 ?
Another UA-camr has shared the 3D case model file for this PC and the RTX A2000. Please check the video description for more details.
@@itggeari now but it’s not like yours. This one you can use the slide mechanism. All the other cases you have to usw screws
I think its a better idea to print a wide open window on the lid, and stick or glue dust filter.
I shared the link to my SketchUp 3D model files in the video description, so you can always make changes to whatever you wish. Thank you.
@@itggear I don't plan to do something like this, since I already have a gaming pc, and a mini pc in all my rooms in their default configuration. I was just merely suggesting some mods that I thought would be more efficient and both keeping the temps down and keep the dust level down.
You can also check out my other video. There are a lot of designs there, including full mesh, half mesh, honeycomb, square, and many more. This video shows just one option. Also, as the GPU and CPU use a blower fan, it means that as long as the ventilation covers the fan, it's enough since those fans will exhaust the hot air outside the case. You might have noticed that the XFX RX6400 runs a bit hot, but this temperature is not affected by the top cover ventilation. It's hot by itself, even in an open-air setup. The reason why OEM PCs don't include much ventilation in their designs is that doing so would make the PC run very loud, so they design solid cases to improve acoustics.
Any idea if a P340 vented cover will fit on an M920q? Cheaper to buy a P340 top cover than it is to order a 3D printed version 😬
Yes, but it costs $50 before tax and shipping. Also, the cover of the P330 Tiny is designed for a Quadro GPU, so if you install an AMD GPU, it will only cover half of the GPU fan, which could lead to overheating. For this 3D printed case, it costs around $2 to print all these parts. Thank you.
@@itggear Thanks for the help. It costs a lot more than that when I'd have to buy a 3D printer to print it. For my specific use case it's cost effective to buy one. I'll be using an RTX 2000E on mine, so it looks as if it lines up. Just wasn't sure whether the P340 fit was the same as the older M920q/P330.
Very much appreciate the answer, thanks again!
Hello! Im impressed with the performance of all the tiny pc you´ve mounted, but I´ve been investigating, and the RX6400 Doesnt need an aditional power supply on the side of the gpu??
Yes, it doesn't need extra power cable.
@itggear okayyy!! One more thing, I heard the voice of the resident evil game I think, and it was in Spanish are you from algún país hispanohablante y estamos aquí hablando en la lengua de Shakespeare? 😂
Create video, my friend. I just want to ask about the performance of the rx 6400. I heard that this card needs to be at pci express gen 4 for the maximum performance, especially new games
Second question: Did you buy a new Psu charger for more power since you added a gpu
Thanks my friend
"It's running at PCIe 3.0 x4. However, its performance is close to the RTX 3050 6GB based on my testing.
@@itggear I know I heard that I should be pci e gen 4 to have the full power of the card
A monitor with a high refresh rate and a program called Lossless Scaling will help. For example, if your monitor supports 120hz. With Losses Scaling frame generation. You can play the game in 120fps. The monitor literally does all the work. GPU's shouldn't be the focus anymore. Focus on a monitor with a high refresh rate. Old CRT monitors do great. Old tech but great for lossless scaling.
hank you for your suggestion. I will try it next time.
@itggear3400 It's recommend to use 30fps. A base of 30fps will give you the true feeling of high fps. Anything below 30 will feel like a slow motion of 60fps and higher. So try to play all your games in 30fps to play in 120fps or whatever your display refresh rate gives you. I'm using a CRT TV for smash Flash 2. The game itself is stuck at 30fps but I'm playing in 75fps because of the old TV with 75HZ. 👍
@itggear3400 I figured out something interesting today. Somehow my 60HZ TV is allowing 145HZ??? I used a program called "Custom Resolution Utility" to turn my TV into 144.94HZ it came out to be 145HZ and it's working. I'm using a HDMI to RF modulator to send my PC single to the TV. I'm wondering if it's because it's just using a RF cable and not a true HDMI cable. Meaning I'm converting HDMI HD into old analog RF cable. Somehow the TV is accepting the 145HZ 😁. Now I'm playing my 30fps PC games in 120fps because 30FPS times 4 is 120FPS. I'm not complaining. 👍 Try Custom Resolution Utility with a old TV and a modulator and get the most fps on weak PC.
Can Upgrade m920q To 9500T?
I mean if it's the same socket there's no reason why you couldn't
Yes, it does.
OOH BOY IM WONDERING IF MY DELL OPTIPLEX 5070 CAN DO THIS THIS MOPS THE FLOOR WITH THE PS 5 MAYBE ILL JUST LOOK FOR ONE WITH RYZEN CPU ON EBAY AND ONE OF THESE GPU SOO PROMISSING BRO I SUBBED
I need this case for a HP400 MINI .
85' С to high.
Use undervolting (reg file method)
I like this guy....
Do you think is good option to add the aluminum plate heatsink to the previous project with the 3050 LP, will fit with it?
"Great! The BD-PROCHOT throttling is gone!"
>still visibly checkmarked
I was confused too
I was confused too but in another comment he mentioned that the south bridge heatsink he installed made it not throttle despite PROCHOT being enabled. But he also said it would eventually throttle after a while of gaming.
Gonna guess you’re 🇵🇭 on the rooster 😂?
Give those parts a better lid they are at high 70's (make a cover that is fully ventilated at the top)
Avesome case🤩
One more comment I completely forgot about. If you don't have a old CRT TV. HDTV still except analog signals even tho analog is dead. So if you only got a HDTV. You can use Custom Resolution Utility to get 144.94HZ and a HDMI to RF modulator to take advantage of Losses Scaling.😅
I prefer this card and its sister the Pro Wx3100 with no need for extra power connectors over the nvidia one. Also the Radeons are all small like the nvidia Quadro series. The Rtx series the card are too big for this build. The Rx6400 is just the perfect card. The Wx3100 is longer and the Bluetooth Antenna doesnt fit well. The Rx6400 is just perfect size. But more expensive...
Could it work on a M910q
What an interesting project good work ❤
Can you test some emulation like batocera , retrobat and Xbox 360 and PS3 ? Also I was wondering if I can upgrade the CPU to a non T version like a i7 8700 / i7 9700 without any problems
Yes u can. It will work but it will get hot & loud inside. You can upgrade the cpu to a copper heatsink which came with the high end models
Thank you for the kind words! Testing emulation like Batocera, Retrobat, Xbox 360, and PS3 sounds like a fantastic idea. I'll definitely look into it for a future video.
As for the CPU upgrade, the Lenovo M920q does not support non-T Intel CPUs. For upgrading to a non-T version like the i7 8700 or i7 9700, you might want to consider the Lenovo M920x or P330 Tiny, which do support those CPUs.
@@itggear okey then I'll look for those models and pait it with an RTX 3050 LP and leave it without the cover for better airflow, thank you very much for your help
Its more difficult to disable PROCHOT in Linux so the CPU is throttled to 5w in Linux OS
Did u notice any thermal improvements with the south bridge? Is it worth buying? Thanks
If you're considering installing a GPU card on a Lenovo 1L tiny PC, here are some important factors to consider:
- Larger AC Adapter: A 230W or 300W adapter is recommended.
- 65W CPU Cooler Heatsink: Even if you install a 35W CPU, you still need a 65W cooler because it also covers the VRM chip nearby the CPU.
- Aluminum Plate Heatsink for Southbridge: This heatsink can help reduce throttling caused by BD-PROCHOT.
- Ventilation Top Cover: You can use a 3D printed cover or one from Lenovo M920x or P330 Tiny, which have ventilation over the GPU area.
- Choose the Right Model: To install a GPU on a Lenovo 1L PC without modification, consider Lenovo M910x, M920X, P330, M90q, P340, P350, or P360.
Thank you!
I think the challenger series arc gpus from asrock could maybe fit in a case this small. Nooot entirely sure though.
thought of the same, but i don't know if the BIOS on these PC's have Resizable BAR which is a must for INTEL GPU's
I have m920q and re-BAR is not available in BIOS
Hi, great video !! What do you think about m715q (amd a6-8570e) m93p (i5 4570t) and m910q (i5 6500T) for same modification with rx 6400 ? Thanks for your reply
Lenovo M715q and Lenovo m910q do not have PCIe slot. Thank you.
Oh okk thank you very much @@itggear
and what about m93p ?
@@faystoface3134 If you're looking for a Lenovo Tiny PC with a PCIe slot, you should consider the ThinkStation Series instead of the IdeaCentre Series. The Lenovo M93p you mentioned also does not have a PCIe slot.
@@itggear thanks à lot
What's the thickness of the thermal pads you bought?
In this video, I use a 3mm thermal pad. However, I haven't measured the pre-applied pad on this heatsink. I think 2mm or 3mm is okay because if it’s too thin, it might not contact all the chips on the PCB. Thank you.
could you make a comparison between 3050 and 6400 with equal settings in this pc?
How much bucks if I want to buy ?
Hi there, there is a new RTX a2000 single slot cooler and I was wondering if you'd be able to design a bracket that was compatible with that card?
I do not have that heatsink to take measurements to create a 3D bracket model for it. Thank you.
@itggear Here is the link to it if you wanted to check it out
Cool design. Will it fit on m920x without editting?
Yes, it could.
@@itggearthanks. gonna try it later.
Can the power withstand it?
Max 135W
Not worth doing that with just an RX6400, todays APU like the 7840U or Strix Point are as fast as that. The RTX A2000 is the card to use in this build, either with the single slot heatsink mod or by 3d printing a slightly bigger top panel for the case
Thanks for the feedback! My goal was to bring this idea to life. 😊
Have u seen his other video with the 3d printed top panel?
How would one go about installing a sound card on this device or upgrading the sound output ?
Yes, it is possible. Many people use this PC as a fast network device by installing a 10G NIC PCIe card, so you can definitely install a PCIe sound card to upgrade the sound output.
@itggear fantastic. Thanks for the tip
With that additional heat sink, does it solve the VRM heat throttling the CPU problem?
It won't help CPU throttling; it helps prevent the chipset from overheating and throttling, which can cause the motherboard to overheat and trigger BD-PROCHOT. Thank you.
@@itggear Will this allow me to run a T series processor without gimping the wattage? I remember you saying elsewhere that it wasn't the CPU that was the barrier to temperatures on these Tiny models.
what does the added heatsink help with exactly? i'm thinking about getting one, but am unsure if it actually does anything useful. does it help taking a few degrees from the cpu, eventhough it's not sat on there or is it for the chipset only?
Also when using the heatsink, do i still have to use a piece of cardboard above it? im planning on using a RX6400 Sapphire Pulse. It also does not have a backplate like the 3050 where you placed cardboard in between.
Hi sir can i add a dgpu low profile to hp elitedesk 705 g5 btw very good video ❤
It does not have a standard PCIe slot, but maybe you can buy the HP RX560 4G dGPU specific for that PC. Thank you.
@itggear Thanks sir
Is the south bridge heatsink needed? Or is it only for reassurance in terms of thermals?
It could help this PC run without BD-PROCHOT throttle. For normal use, the CPU runs at full power, 35W, without using the ThrottleStop app. However, based on my testing, long gaming sessions still cause throttling. Thank you.
all game lock 60fps is very good..
Hello sir it will work with m700 think center Lenovo?
What do people without 3d printing do
you know, although rx 6400 is great low profile gpu, for me I would wait for next gen AMD gpu since they go back to middle and entry level gaming gpu and fail to gain margin in high-end gpu, hopefully AMD will release move low profile, single slot gpu with RDNA4
RX 6400 will perform worse on i5-8500t as it does not support Smart access memory? How does it compare with supported and unsupported cpu, especially the ryzen 2400g? please make a comparison video with 2400g with rx6400..
The ryzen version of these tiny pc’s don’t have PCIe slots so it would be an entirely different computer.
how did you get the screws to screw in? Mine don't screw in anymore. Do I need to buy a screw kit from amazon?
Which one?
@@itggear the main one on the back next to the gpu
@@MrGeo044 can you clarify which screw you mean: the PCIe bracket screw, the GPU bracket screw, or something else? I didn't get that. However, I used all existing screws that came with this PC. For example, I removed the DP port option board and its bracket, and I used that screw to secure the GPU. I didn't need any other screws. Thank you.
@@itggear on your 3d printed replacement cover there is nothing for the screw to thread into. Did you put in a metal bit into the 3d printed cover?
@@MrGeo044 Oh! thank you for clarifying. For the 3D-printed screw hole, I designed a 6mm diameter hexagon so you can use a motherboard standoff screw and a soldering iron to embed it into the 3D-printed bracket. If you have bought a PC case before, you can find the motherboard standoff screw in your PC case screw box. You can use an M3x5 flat head or the original screw to secure the bracket to the case. I would recommend you print with 100% infill for better strength. Thank you.
Would that bracket also work on a 10th gen model? I see this works on a p330 to, I happen to have a p340, and have the rx6400 in there, just have no bracket used for it.
It won't fit. However, I also designed a bracket for your P340. Please check this video: ua-cam.com/video/91bqoSrSMMQ/v-deo.html
I figured I would ask here since you have the card linked in the description. Does the PCIe slot support the full 75W of power delivery, or is it limited below that? I'm looking at dropping a modded 3050 6GB into mine for some extra GPU power, but I want to make sure the slot can handle its 70W TDP.
In fact, the M920q and M720q don't support GPUs by default, and I showed how to do it in this video. If you're looking for a Lenovo Tiny PC in this series that supports GPUs, please take a look at the P330 Tiny or M920X. These two models can support up to a 50W GPU when paired with a 35W CPU. I'm sorry, but I don't have exact data on how many watts the PCIe slot can supply. Thank you.
@@itggear All good, thanks! I've been shopping around for the M920x as I reached that same realization on my own when no models on Lenovo's website had none with GPUs, just NICs and drive sleds.
It appears that the slot is a full x8 slot in a weird shape, so the full 75W should be available if the GPU has the means to pull it. I was considering an RTX3050 6GB for mine, but if that draws too much power, I suppose an rx6400 will have to do.
@@DigitalJediI have m920q and the Yeston single slot LP RTX 3050. In this video it shows he’s pulling 69 watts and I pull about 60 watts while gaming on the 3050 but u keep having random full shutdowns. Not sure if it’s the power supply or lack of PCIe power, I have 230 watt brick. I also disabled PROCHOT
Quick update on this. I ended up with a P330, which is functionally the same as the others. I ended up with a 60W GPU power limit as going beyond this caused the chipset or something else on the motherboard under the shield that the GPU covers to overheat and trip power. An unnamed sensor near the chipset in HWInfo was logging 104C before shutdown, and after digging through some Intel docs, that chipset does indeed shut down the system for safety at 105C package temp.
Replacing the thermal pads there or getting that shield connected to something with more direct cooling would allow for the full 75W, as I was able to pull that with a riser between the slot adapter and the GPU.
So, You think this card is optimum?
Hi, RX 6400 LOW PROFILE will work on a 180w PSU? (SFF PC)
I'm not an expert, but I'm sure you can find out what's possible for your SFF PC setup. Thank you.
did you swap the CPU cooler for this build? any more info on where to obtain that part if so please?
I did not swap the CPU cooler in this setup since I am using an Intel Core i5-8500T, which is a 35W TDP CPU. Also, this Lenovo M920q does not support 65W CPUs, which means if we install a 65W CPU, it will run at around 5W only, resulting in very slow performance.
@@itggear appreciate the reply, thank you very much.
Will a regular low profile bracket on my rx 550 fit
It is possible to install the RX550 LP with its bracket. However, you might not be able to close the lid completely since the bracket will take up some space at the back where the top cover hinge goes through. Thank you.