A $100 Upgrade For A $100 Gaming PC!

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @Ginmaru
    @Ginmaru 22 дні тому +110

    " a solid amount of storage" - top notch commentary

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  22 дні тому +10

      @@Ginmaru you are so right. Perhaps I should have referred to it as magnetic?

    • @auggieaxiom5726
      @auggieaxiom5726 22 дні тому +7

      @@BudgetBin i think he has store rage

  • @snivy.dvb.archive
    @snivy.dvb.archive 22 дні тому +21

    You generally will not be able to plug in the SAS drive to a SATA board using that adapter. While these two interfaces seem familiar, SATA controllers don't support SAS drives due to differences in the signal itself, and you will need a separate PCIe card [HBA / RAID controller] to make any connection to the drive..

  • @robthegobbler
    @robthegobbler 21 день тому +14

    While I have adhd and often prefer more energetic humor, I also have autism and like this too! A lot! It's very refreshing, obvious and loud sells a lot better and gets overwhelming, especially when tasteless. Thankyou!

  • @FullBeansCyclingCompany
    @FullBeansCyclingCompany 22 дні тому +25

    Can't wait to come back and watch this in a years time when you've got over a million subs...

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  22 дні тому +5

      Are you trying to get on my good side? Because it IS working. lol

  • @Furrboicarti
    @Furrboicarti 22 дні тому +31

    Hey budget bin!! Love ur vids sm!! I always watch them in class, while i eat, and especially when i sleep!! Theyre so relaxing and infomative, thank you so much!

  • @stevenwilliams6638
    @stevenwilliams6638 21 день тому +2

    I’ve been in this space for a very long time. I never officially made a UA-cam channel, but I’ve been following tech channels for a long time. I enjoy your spin on it. Keep up the great work.

  • @gaming.teacher
    @gaming.teacher 22 дні тому +11

    I must admit that I really like your narration style and man, the fact that you thought of using the driver disc to install the drivers was crazzy xD it brought me back to 2010 era, haha. Keep up the good work! :)

  • @ex-itguy
    @ex-itguy 22 дні тому +30

    Great video! Sucks about that SAS drive. I _almost_ made that mistake myself recently, noticed it just in time.

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  22 дні тому +6

      Well hopefully I can make some use out of it in the future! Glad you enjoyed the video! :)

  • @velja1312
    @velja1312 21 день тому +3

    the "this app can't run on your pc" can either mean a failed download, or the windows build being "Streamlined" (which essentially means it's blocking every single thing you try installing and making your PC experience a suffering).
    even tho i've never watched your content, i already liked this video.

  • @d.3465
    @d.3465 22 дні тому +4

    Really like the progression format 👍

  • @sketchpen777
    @sketchpen777 7 днів тому +2

    Glad i found ur channel randomly today, love these low budget videos. You definitely deserve more subs. Oh and the intro with the crayon feels so comfy.

  • @nyaaalex
    @nyaaalex 22 дні тому +4

    We love to see an updated video! Beautiful artwork, as usual! 😅

  • @skorpysk
    @skorpysk 22 дні тому +2

    I always knew you were cool, these videos are the proof of it.
    But if i ever needed more proof, those cargo shorts man, You're a man of Culture.

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  22 дні тому

      @@skorpysk Finally, someone said it for me!

  • @88-bit-tech
    @88-bit-tech 22 дні тому +3

    Another great vid mate! Decent upgrade for sure and no worries about the dumb mistake. I recently bought the wrong cooler for the recent build on my channel. Fortunately, it has turned into more content as I am now in the process of building an entire pc off the wrong cooler 😂 Once again, appreciate the artwork and subtle comedy

  • @jw2par
    @jw2par 8 днів тому +1

    Glad I found your channel, entertaining video , I'm gonna try this build

  • @yvancarbuccia6596
    @yvancarbuccia6596 22 дні тому +2

    A tip from an Xbox series S guy with low storage - you don’t have to deal with the slow reading of a regular hard drive if you just use it to store games and whenever you want to play them you’d transfer them back to the SSD. It’s a little tedious (even more on PC) but it’s the no cost option!

  • @live_deliuss
    @live_deliuss 19 днів тому +1

    Fun video and a solid sequel to that $100 Gaming PC video. Hope your channel gets more views and recognition! It's very much deserved

  • @galactic-brawlstars3461
    @galactic-brawlstars3461 7 днів тому +1

    i love ur editing style and those little drawing looking animations i think? They are great

  • @brianthomas8036
    @brianthomas8036 22 дні тому +4

    i just watched the first episode today! happy to see the next one is out!

  • @ClipsKingdom4Life
    @ClipsKingdom4Life 22 дні тому +1

    I have literally watched every video from this channel since I watched this video, excited for more videos to come

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 22 дні тому +1

    This was a lovely addition to the little gaming PC that could!
    Have a fantastic Halloween, and thank you for greatly improving a very stressful week for me with your $100 intro

  • @alwexxxxx
    @alwexxxxx 20 днів тому +1

    woah I thought you had a million subscribers, I really enjoyed watching your content keep up the good work man.

  • @ChristianGutierrez
    @ChristianGutierrez 20 днів тому

    Nothing is easier and more sure to work than using the CD for drivers, no wasted time digging around or getting the wrong drivers, it just works!❤

  • @rustywastakenwastaken
    @rustywastakenwastaken 17 днів тому +1

    good video man, this style really reminds me of mattkc (which is a good thing)

  • @Tenneyson
    @Tenneyson 14 днів тому +1

    Ily bro, you give me hope

  • @CodyShell
    @CodyShell 22 дні тому +3

    I recently DOUBLED the cores/threads in my my $30 server (HP Proliant ML110 G6) for $5.99 on eBay 😀a Xeon X3450 was the cheapest price-to-performance upgrade I've ever done.
    She runs truenas scale with around 16TB of networks storage

  • @brandonfurbush1115
    @brandonfurbush1115 2 дні тому

    Intro was a banger fr fr no cap

  • @DaiAtlus79
    @DaiAtlus79 20 днів тому

    Very nice. i got a very similar build as ive been a cheapskate and used a lot of OEM stuff for years, had an Acer board with an i7-2600 latched in and 16gb dual channel ddr3 with my 1060 3gb i use, but now ive gotten my hands on a Dell XPS 4100 board with an i7-4790 like yours, and i got a cpl 8gb sticks to throw in to bring it up to 24gb. I have it in a Stryx case, an Ares750w PSU, with a 120gb WD Green SSD and a 4tb seagate barracuda (i said im cheap lol, both are new). im still able to get at the new AAA games, even if i have to knock down the settings at times. Love the video, these lil OEM rigs are always the most fun to get going :)

  • @emmettdaster
    @emmettdaster 22 дні тому +9

    Very good video as always. I have done a similar process before with an Optiplex and they make good budget gaming pcs.

    • @30kendel
      @30kendel 16 днів тому +1

      What processor and graphics setup do you have?

    • @kp-ms9zq
      @kp-ms9zq 15 днів тому +1

      Which optiplex is the best to buy for some one who's trying to get into pc gaming on a budget?

    • @Caseoh_shorts1
      @Caseoh_shorts1 6 годин тому

      @@kp-ms9zqfrom 380 and up

    • @Caseoh_shorts1
      @Caseoh_shorts1 6 годин тому

      380 is cheaper and u could get the parts faster since it’s least demanding than the 7020

  • @oshii666
    @oshii666 22 дні тому +2

    5:02 totally valid i remember trying to buy some ddr3 ram and thought i found a killer deal only to find out it was ddr3r "registered ram" or ecc thats only compatible on xeon cpus, so i know that feel

    • @sahamal_savu
      @sahamal_savu 22 дні тому

      I recently bought a refurbished HP workstation with the Xeon CPU and ECC RAM, not realizing how much more expensive it was going to be to upgrade in the future 😄

  • @SeeJayPlayGames
    @SeeJayPlayGames 22 дні тому +1

    IDK why you're saying that it's not reliable; I've had a Dell 3020 SFF for 5 years now and it's been VERY reliable. Except that time that I screwed up the motherboard socket, but that was my fault entirely, and I fixed it cheaply. Point is, they didn't build these for speed, they built them for reliability, which is what businesses want anyway. It fulfilled its three year mission and was sold on to my local reseller, and then I picked it up, and it's STILL running without trouble, with the usual upgrades (16GB, 1TB SSD, GT 1030) applied.

  • @kimbroslic3
    @kimbroslic3 22 дні тому +3

    If you had done a teeny bit more searching I think you could've found a 1060 3GB and gotten a bit more performance per dollar.
    Good video as always though!

    • @kimbroslic3
      @kimbroslic3 22 дні тому +2

      or even an RX 580 (570) 2048 used would've been close!

    • @nyaaalex
      @nyaaalex 22 дні тому +1

      Even the 1060 6GB can be found for around the same price at times, there was one being sold local to me for $50 USD a few weeks ago. It can take quite a bit of waiting around and deal searching though, so I understand a content creator doing something that can be more easily replicated by their audience 🙂

  • @I-VoidParadox-I
    @I-VoidParadox-I 22 дні тому +1

    Gimme another episode!! I need another $100 incremental update!!

  • @RobertFixit
    @RobertFixit 21 день тому +1

    I did the same thing, I thought SAS was the same as SATA.
    I still have 2 15k RPM SAS drives on the shelf with no home because I had no idea.

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick 22 дні тому +2

    G'day BB,
    8:03 🤨Instead of unplugging the ODD put the OS SSD up in the Empty ODD Bay, or while it would put you over budget here for a GPU + PSU only upgrade on a DELL/HP like this if you can find an In Win IP-S400GQ2-0 they suit these DELL cases for 2 short + 2 long SATA & have 6pin PCIe, the last one I got cost me $25AUD delivered from eBay.
    That SAS/SATA mistake is quite easy to make, I have found even when using the SATA/STAII/SATAIII selector trying to eliminate them you still get SAS mixed in as Sellers have put them in the wrong catagory🤦‍♂,
    Not sure about other markets but down here in Australia when you look at higher capacity 3TB/4TB/6TB SAS they can bet quite a bit cheaper compared to SATA so I would find a review of the adapter very interesting

  • @yahyab.3463
    @yahyab.3463 16 днів тому

    I miss my old optiplex build, had a i7-4790 and an SSD when I bought it. I upgraded it to 16GB RAM and a GTX980, and a new psu with an adapter.

  • @GoHardDrive-b9f
    @GoHardDrive-b9f 22 дні тому

    "deathstar" was refering to when the deskstar drives where failing in huge amounts in the 2000s when ibm owned that hdd division. after hitachi buying that hdd division the hdds are pretty reliable from them. also used drives are great if they are server-grade.

  • @grizzlyindustries7593
    @grizzlyindustries7593 22 дні тому +1

    That XFX RX 560 is strange with AMD drivers on Windows. Never had issues with RX 460s, RX 470s, RX 570s, and RX 580s. The RX 560 has no problem on Linux. But trying out official or Nimez drivers. Both never worked on my RX 560 either.
    Weird.
    Loved the video. Really like you using that old Dell PS2 keyboard too(if yours is PS2 though). I have two of the exact same kind. They are strangely decent. keyboards even today.

  • @sahamal_savu
    @sahamal_savu 22 дні тому +2

    Keeping it real, much respect 👍

  • @warmachine8239
    @warmachine8239 19 днів тому

    been waiting for a sequel

  • @uisebastian8799
    @uisebastian8799 22 дні тому +1

    I love messing with these OptiPlex's and just dells in general. Have my main in a XPS case. Those OptiPlex's can run 1600mhz ram btw you'd probably just need matching sticks it can also support 32gb.

  • @BrainletReviews
    @BrainletReviews 22 дні тому +1

    Ngl you sound a LOT like LGR, but hey that's not a bad thing. This style of video is very cozy and inspiring as well. :)

  • @tylerlogsdon8623
    @tylerlogsdon8623 22 дні тому

    the best ive done
    optiplex 4th gen used- $20
    xeon e3-1230 v3 used - $5(sold i5)
    16gb ddr3 - $20 used(sold 4gb ddr3)
    120gb ssd - $10 new
    4TB hdd - $15 used(yes it works and has worked for the last 2 years. literally just game storage. dont care if it dies)
    rx 6400 4gb - $65 used with unactivated warranty card
    i dont run Windows. i run Kubuntu and there are some games that run SO much better for seemingly no reason. give it a shot on this pc.

  • @noobguy57
    @noobguy57 9 днів тому

    It would be interesting to see if you can do a "blueprint" PC from the exact same you spent on the two videos. Meaning can you get a modern Ryzen 5000 or 7000 series where the path to upgrade and stay on the same platform is the same? That was one thing with my old intel builds. Always got stuck on the motherboard and had to basically redo every time.

  • @sambusby9338
    @sambusby9338 21 день тому

    Loving your content mate, some more solid uploads like this and I may have to become a member...
    This is not a threat

  • @yvancarbuccia6596
    @yvancarbuccia6596 22 дні тому

    Brother I literally commented I would love this on the other video!!!! I love you

  • @radradR0bot
    @radradR0bot 22 дні тому

    "I never make mistakes while shopping" *looking at a pile of ecc memory I no use for*

  • @OutlawH2
    @OutlawH2 15 днів тому

    This def gives me some ideas for the Optiplex 7020 i picked up about two years ago. I already tossed in a 250 GB Western Digital SSD i had on hand in it to get it up and running. It currently has the Core I5 4590 so not a bad start. If i remember right it has 8 gb in it currently. Now i do have a couple GPUs i could throw in it that are about the same tier. a GTX 650 TI and a Radeon HD 6970. Though i am unsure if the Radeon will physically fit yet.

  • @C9_koshiro
    @C9_koshiro 21 день тому +1

    I just got a 7010 mid tower and I'm throwing in a GTX 1050ti, what do you think of my build! I also have 1.5tb in hard drive and 512 ssd with 24gb ram ;3

  • @RandomFandomOfficial
    @RandomFandomOfficial 12 днів тому +1

    I see Arma 3.
    respect! 😍

  • @Lurch-Bot
    @Lurch-Bot 22 дні тому +1

    An old non-HT quad doesn't really cut it in recent titles or esports in late 2024.
    As for the GPU upgrade, while the RX560 is only marginally more powerful than the W5100, having feature level 12.1 instead of 11.1 will expand the number titles from this decade you can run greatly.

  • @sithandra
    @sithandra 22 дні тому +1

    K variant might have been a waste of money since the bios probably doesn’t allow overclocking .

  • @fatshaggy8159
    @fatshaggy8159 21 день тому

    It’s me again! Upgraded my PSU to a 400W EVGA, and hoping the EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SSC 6GB graphics card coming in today works :) had a for parts/repair one come in yesterday and was having display issues.

    • @wolly-nc8vr
      @wolly-nc8vr 15 днів тому +1

      Update ?

    • @fatshaggy8159
      @fatshaggy8159 14 днів тому +1

      @ so the for parts GPU did not work, the second one came in. I ripped out the drive cage for good and installed the new card. Everything works and I can now play games that I couldn’t beforehand. I can drop my specs later if you want

    • @wolly-nc8vr
      @wolly-nc8vr 14 днів тому

      @@fatshaggy8159 would be much appreciated

  • @RobertFixit
    @RobertFixit 21 день тому +1

    I like taking a $100 PC and adding another $100. Then, later add another $100 😂. To infinity and beyond!

  • @JezyYT
    @JezyYT 21 день тому +1

    Great video

  • @koreannom
    @koreannom 22 дні тому +1

    Very nice!

  • @6IM_
    @6IM_ 21 день тому +1

    Lovely

  • @Migoiscool
    @Migoiscool 7 днів тому +1

    if you make a 300 dollar gaming pc that can run high end games at 60+ fps i will pee my pants.

  • @WeatherMan2005
    @WeatherMan2005 22 дні тому +1

    I wonder if maxing out that system is better value thana pc with close specs to that optiplex with the highest end parts (within reason)

  • @Lordspaghett
    @Lordspaghett 21 день тому +1

    Sooooo I may or may not have been inspired to cram $1500 worth of new parts into a 7010 I had sitting in the corner, after your last video…

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  21 день тому

      @@Lordspaghett what parts did you choose? Lol

    • @Lordspaghett
      @Lordspaghett 21 день тому

      ryzen 7800x3d build

  • @4777512
    @4777512 21 день тому +2

    you sound like a younger "8-bit guy"

  • @CuriousGamer022
    @CuriousGamer022 22 дні тому

    i built mine from a dell precision 5810,xeon 2680 v4,32gb ddr4 2400 ram,500gb ssd,2tb 7200rpm hdd and a rx 6600 xt all for £280 and plays most games at 1440p and 4k depending on the settings

  • @evilmousse1
    @evilmousse1 8 днів тому

    i like yer thinking. tho i tend to look for mobo's that let you oc chips, or cheap unlocked chips like the g3258, 10 bucks, and its 2 cores will run about as fast as a 4790k's cores when oc'd from 3.2 to 4.4 stock cooler. a lotta 1866 ddr3 can oc to 2400, i see 10$ 8gb sticks of kingston's i know to work. got a 750ti oc'd too and running sf6 1080 at not too ugly settings, they're prolly 30$? i wouldn't go as old as this 2014 stuff, but when i checked what it'd cost to rebuild a budget pc i made someone a few years ago, it's not much anymore, and it still works great! be sure to tweak your 560 with msi afterburner--you can eek out more fps without increasing any voltages, therefore no threat to hardware. just see how fast you can set things before it gets confused!

  • @condor_09
    @condor_09 11 днів тому +1

    I am using dell optiplex 3020 i5-4570 with gtx 1050ti 4gb / ram 16gb windows 11 pro
    Is it good for gaming?

  • @MrModamanReviews
    @MrModamanReviews 20 днів тому

    Even if you bought the I7 4790K instead of the I7 4790, would it really make a difference? Can you do any overclocking with an OEM board? And I would have gotten a GTX 1050 ti. A much better GPU at roughly the same price.

  • @Vadkon07
    @Vadkon07 19 днів тому

    Let's do a 100$ upgrade for 100$ laptop

  • @aaronring4704
    @aaronring4704 2 дні тому

    I have recently come into possession of a Dell Poweredge server that is set up for SAS drives, if you're interested in playing with one.

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 18 днів тому +1

    Thanks. :)

  • @ark5906
    @ark5906 19 днів тому

    Commenting for the algorithm

  • @nvademarvel9344
    @nvademarvel9344 22 дні тому

    LETS HAWK TO IT

  • @NOTHING_9802
    @NOTHING_9802 20 днів тому +1

    I know i am late but is it worth it to recover my pentium 4 pc it has 512 mb ram and a readon 5500 or something gpu ?

  • @PikeletTech
    @PikeletTech 8 днів тому

    Great video!

  • @LoSc00
    @LoSc00 19 днів тому +1

    Anyone know what the game on the top left corner at 0:44 is?

  • @30kendel
    @30kendel 16 днів тому

    What is the top best graphics card without bottlenecking with the 4790 or with (K) as I also have one of these optiplex desktop as I just want to play moderate games!

  • @dysc_
    @dysc_ 22 дні тому

    love your videos!

  • @randaldavis8976
    @randaldavis8976 20 днів тому

    I have a 4790K in my old PC now running linux used is as my main PC until last year

  • @RabbittCarrott
    @RabbittCarrott 22 дні тому +1

    great video...but hear me out.....what about....another $100?

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  21 день тому +1

      I can't escape it... I'm stuck here...

  • @shaheer876
    @shaheer876 17 днів тому

    Best way to save money on that processor wouldve been a xeon e3 1240 v3 basically an i7 4790 but with no graphics that wouldve costed you less, atleast it does, where i live😅

  • @ghostlyafro
    @ghostlyafro 22 дні тому +1

    I've been trying something like this as well but I'm getting a no bootable device found on launch and I'm not sure what to do. any advice?

    • @I-VoidParadox-I
      @I-VoidParadox-I 22 дні тому +1

      With custom PCs, you'll often have to go into your BIOS and assign a Boot Drive yourself. Often times Windows can figure it out by itself, but other times you have to tell it where to boot the OS from manually.

  • @deejay3439
    @deejay3439 4 дні тому

    my first pc build was a ryzen apu to start

  • @liambreuner4821
    @liambreuner4821 22 дні тому +1

    I think its amazing, that for 20€ more, you could get an E5-2697 AV4 with 16 cores at 2.6ghz, and 40mb l3 cache.
    Ofc, i understand, that this wouldnt be realistic or useful on this budget, but i just thought about how hopelessly overpriced old i7 cpus are.

    • @HarmonyEdge
      @HarmonyEdge 22 дні тому

      Just as amazing in my country that a Xeon E3 1290 V2 (3.7-4.1 Ghz) costs just as much as an I7 3770k(3.5-3.9GHz), and uses the same socket. Dunno though if the Optiplex 7010 or 9010 can support it.

  • @JMD-tu1xm
    @JMD-tu1xm 14 днів тому

    I wanted to do this with my Inspiron 3847, however the motherboard unfortunately stopped working, which means I now can't until I locate a new motherboard.

  • @sn34kboi74
    @sn34kboi74 5 днів тому

    Hey man can u make a budget pc with a GT 1030 or any other Gpu under 50$ ?

  • @AivarasJančauskas
    @AivarasJančauskas 22 дні тому +5

    Hello from lithuania again

  • @nebulaorganz
    @nebulaorganz 22 дні тому +1

    9:48 plink.

  • @l1zardxd933
    @l1zardxd933 21 день тому +1

    damn wtf, i thought you had like 400k subs????

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  21 день тому

      @@l1zardxd933 if only.

  • @kodokuj
    @kodokuj 21 день тому

    I have a Optiplex 7010 and got a RX 570 and I could not get those AMD official drivers to work. After like 10 hours I just sent it back and now I have a GTX 780 for the same $40. Btw do not recommend this. I already have a 750w PSU I could put in, but it draws 250w and gets sooo hot lol. Id recommend anything in my spot a couple weeks ago to get a GTX 960
    Although as you said its a good point A to B system. It does well for what I use but enough that im happy and excited for an new system down the line

  • @dusanmilovic7421
    @dusanmilovic7421 20 днів тому +1

    Good

  • @aseantravels8772
    @aseantravels8772 21 день тому

    I would have prefered a used RX580 if the power supply can handle it. solid 1080p 60fps low/medium card

    • @johncollins5552
      @johncollins5552 20 днів тому

      Nvidias more efficient and suit stock psu better, gtx1060 6 gb can match rx580 with much less power.

  • @7eis
    @7eis 21 день тому

    E3-1271v3 not compatible?

  • @Urzu3
    @Urzu3 21 день тому

    i will keep the i5 cpu. or xeon 4770 equivalent.
    upgrade PSU and better GPU like RX470 above.. RX560 just about same as GTX1050.

  • @ianignacio2941
    @ianignacio2941 17 днів тому +1

    Algorithm led me to your channel man, great stuff! Keep it up bro

  • @KrissBartlett
    @KrissBartlett 22 дні тому

    never seen one of those type of drive

    • @sahamal_savu
      @sahamal_savu 22 дні тому

      Me neither, that would've confused the hell out of me when I went to install it haha

  • @MarcellXV
    @MarcellXV 7 днів тому

    bro sounds like nanami

  • @vdvd2090
    @vdvd2090 20 днів тому

    If I was you, I would have just bought the ssd and the gpu. the cpu won't improve the performance that much anyway. Running games on ssd would give better loading time and stability

  • @NivyaanManzoor
    @NivyaanManzoor 22 дні тому

    just wana say what about a 20 doller graphics card quadro k1200 45 watt tgp

  • @default1647
    @default1647 21 день тому

    The CPU is ok you need more powerful GPU 8gb min like Rx 570/580

  • @winginit7118
    @winginit7118 22 дні тому

    helo men cool vido

  • @DarkBalls-dn8yt
    @DarkBalls-dn8yt 20 днів тому

    you could have bought an rx 580 gpu which is a budget gpu that outperforms the gtx 1650

    • @BudgetBin
      @BudgetBin  20 днів тому

      @@DarkBalls-dn8yt I don't want to be that guy... but did you watch the whole video?

    • @DarkBalls-dn8yt
      @DarkBalls-dn8yt 20 днів тому

      @@BudgetBin Sorry i didn't but as soon as i saw that RX 560 i knew i had to comment something since i used that GPU and it was horrible and not worth its price

  • @florider_hd
    @florider_hd 21 день тому

    Instead of an i7 you should have gon with a xeon. They are the Same but without a GPU ans much much cheaper