How to replace a close coupled toilet syphon | Dudley Turbo
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Toilet syphons are normally reliable, but the diaphragm inside of the syphon can eventually fail. Replacing the syphon on a high level or low level toilet is much easier than on a close coupled toilet. Here we are replacing a standard toilet syphon with a Dudley Turbo 88 syphon, which is a dual flush (so it saves water) and also is in two parts so the next time you need to replace the syphon diaphragm it is much easier. You can buy the parts at your local plumbers merchants or even get them on ebay- fave.co/2p1srzg
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Thanks for a very helpful video !!
Was tiling the bathroom floor and decided to remove the toilet (I had ZERO plumbing experience) Your vids really got me out of a hole and even had me talking like i knew what i was doing :D
I watched this video a few days before replacing the syphon, the “ home maintenance technician “ that my niece pays an insurance premium for said it was a difficult job, the cistern would probably crack and a new cistern and replacement tiling would be required!, and wouldn’t touch it
I bought a new syphon and close coupling kit for £15, the old wing nuts and bolts snapped off when I used an adjustable for leverage so I was fortunate because I don’t have a small grinder, after that everything was comparatively straight forward, many thanks for a very informative video
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I'm pretty proud of the young man, the lad did a bang up job...
This is how to make an instructional video ! Thanks !
Thanks a bundle ~ I have changed the flush Syphon and the intakes on several toilets in the past, but never a Coupled Toilet ~ just looking at the set up made me pause (for a long time ~ then I found your Video ~ Outstanding ~ even got hold of a "Dudley Duoflush (about £20 in 2013) Split Syphon" so that next time the diaphragm gives up I don't have to take everything apart ... I am now sitting here waiting to check for any leakage (15 min & no signs)
Once again ~ Thank you big time
Just want to say thank you so much for this video. Today I did my first Syphon repair many many thanks for your guidance in this video. Brilliantly done video.
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fairba
Thanks. I had done this job once before in another toilet and had to get a plumber in eventually as I couldn't t stop the inlet from leaking. This time I bought a Dudley Duo, on the advice of the helpful plumbers merchants (before viewing this clip) and managed to fit it perfectly this time with confidence after watching this very helpful demonstration. I even refitted the rusty close coupling kit I had removed as I hadn't bought one to replace it, though I did use LS-X jointing compound just to be on the safe side.
I'm glad you sorted it ;-)
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Many thanks for giving me the confidence to tackle this job with your down to earth, clear and detailed instructions! 👍😃
Thanks for whoever did this film. Gave me the confidence to do it myself. Didn't go quite as smoothly as shown - but got there in the end.
Stephen Wood
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Often jobs don't go smoothly but you never find out until you start the job. I tried to cover most things that could go wrong.
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Thanks. Now I've earned multiple man points I intend to cash it in by having a beer.
Stephen Wood
Nice one, Enjoy ;-)
Hiya mate, excellent video, well done! Had no experience taking apart a cistern and viewed this twice before buying the parts and tackling the job. Stupid loo was 20+ years old & had a "siphon bomb" system, so even with a new siphon it just filled the bowl and wouldn't flush, even after taking it apart 10 times! Gave up, bought a complete new toilet after finding out siphon bombs stopped being made 15 years ago! Couldn't have tackled it without you though, thank you very much!
May 2017 and your 2011 video is still doing its magic. Its May bank holiday and i was down to B&Q and followed your instructions including getting the more expensive sustem that cuts down future work. Brilliant video! ... Thankfully, my wing nuts came off easily.
I'm glad the video helped ;-)
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Very good explanation for the steps required to replace a valve on close coupled toilet, excellent advice on parts and sourcing.
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Excellent video. Best part is showing likely problems and being prepared for the worst - especially the advice on having a replacement closed coupling bracket. Thank you.
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If not too badly corroded and rubber is still okay, can the close-coupling bracket be re-used?
Probably the best DIY instruction video I've seen to date. Excellent, keep it up and thanks.
Thank you so much for putting 'How to replace a coupled toilet syphon Dudley Turbo' online! You have given lots of detail and the step by step instructions were brill .
Louise Cronin
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Absolutely brilliant instructional video. Watched this several times,bought the pieces I needed for replacement and did the job perfectly thanks to your help.10 out of 10 mate.
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Well done for doing the job yourself!
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Hero, your video gave me the confidence that I could do it myself. Toilet fixed for under £25!
Brilliant! Well done 👍
A comprehensive guide with explanations of why not just how. Good job!
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Spot on mate, step by step clear info, made it an easy worry free job. Very grateful.
Simply amazing, ultimatehandyamn. Most DIY books I have show you how to do this where there are no problems. But I know DIY stuff is never straight forward. But here you have covered every problem which may occur and I now feel more confident about changing my daiphram valve. And that cutting the rusted nuts off with a cordless angle driver wouldn't be one of my madder ideas. A big thanks for this. To be honest I get a bit nervous doing some types DIY, so your site is a godsend.
Yes your video helped me do this today.. ...no leaks although,I went for the sealent solution as a backup around my bolt through the cistern, and below the rubber seal and before the large plastic nut that tightens the syphon, as the previous plummer had done the same thing....just a precaution...many thanks
Excellent video, thanks for posting it. Before watching your video I had no idea how to fix the flush. I have the exact same toilet as in the video and was able to follow your instructions. Thank you very much!
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Thank you so much for this video, I followed this to letter today to replace my siphon. I’ve never attempted anything like this before and super proud I’ve done it. Not sure if you’ll see this comment as the video Is a few years old now but I don’t suppose you’d know why after doing this I get a little whistle when I turn off any of my taps.
Well done for doing this yourself 👍🏼
Did you isolate the toilet locally, or did you turn off the main stop tap to the house? If you turned off the main stop tap, it might be a flow issue. At my house the main stop tap is only open 1/8 of a turn, if I open it any more than that we get really bad water hammer.
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Ultimate Handyman Thanks . The toilet has a little screw you can turn that just stops the water to the toilet so I just I’d that.i wonder if I’ve opened it more Han it was? Will have a look today. Thanks again
Excellent video, proved very helpfull. I bought the same Syphon from my local build centre, however had to buy a different one in the end as it wouldnt fit within the systen - was too tight against the feed pipe.
All sorted now though, thanks
I didn't think I could do a job like this, but needs must, and your video meant I could. Thank-you.
Thank you for that video, I have learnt a lot of it and gave me the confidence to do that job myself. You are a 🌟 .
I'm glad the video helped
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Thank you so much for this video. It made the whole process very easy.
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Very good video, explained throughoutly . Thanknks 👌👍
Would you believe it: Christmas eve tomorrow and our big kids are home for the holiday. First impact: syphon on the close coupled cistern broken by an overenthusiastic flush: The plunger just snapped-off the washer inside the syphon. My DIY manual says this is too complicated for an amateur to fix, but your video is really helpful and simple to follow. If I can just get a Dudley Duoflush tomorrow morning we should still be able to eat Christmas dinner without worries! Thanks UH.
I had one fail on Christmas eve in about 2006 LOL. Just take your time and follow the video and you should be fine ;-)
Did this yesterday, video very helpful thanks. Wing nuts were a pig, made a tool to remove .
I have thought about making a tool myself, but always end up making something else.
I did buy a tool once for undoing wing nuts, but I have not tried it yet.
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a brilliant video showing all the problems you face in the real world....ps I cannot get my loo seat off as screws rusted but no access for power tools ???
Sometimes you can get in with a hacksaw, to either cut the nut or cut the bolt.
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repaired my sons toilet with the help of your'e video,probably saved a packet by not using a plumber,thanks.
Clear explanation. What causes it to keep running down into the bowl after flush? Is there an internal overflow built in thats causing it?
Yes, it has an internal overflow, but that is not normally the cause of the problem. Either the water fill valve needs adjusting, so that the water level is lower, or the water fill valve needs a new washer or replacing.
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Thank you so much for this really helpful video! Not sure how long it took as I had to go and get a couple of things for the job part way through. Toilet working now and seems to be free of leaks!
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Well done for having a go yourself ;-)
Excellent video in simple understandable language. Well done, ever hough of a job in teaching?
Great video thanks. Clueless on plumbing but following this was easy.👍🏻
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Great instructional video. Thank you. You just saved me £200.
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Thank you for a very informative video. I'm off to purchase my toilet syphon now and shall have a go.
Brilliant mate. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Very helpful indeed.
2018 nd this video jus saved me sum money...thanks dude!
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Thanx for the video.. My toilet stops flushing too. Its flush sometime but dont most of the time. Do u think its a syphon i need to change or its something else?
Thanks for the video, The Dudley Turbo is a fantastic bit of kit.
+Richard Eisinger Yes, it is a cracking piece of kit.Thanks for the comment
Cheers pal, really handy vid. Will give mine a go tomorrow!
Best of luck with it 👍
Excellent video! I can do this now. Thanks.
Excellent!
very useful video. will be having a go at doing mine. thanks
Good luck with it.
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Excellent video - thanks for making it and posting it!
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Thanks for that mate, i had what i thought was a pumber come put anew syphon in and when i went to sit on loo the tank nearly come off the wall, so he wasnt a pumber he was one of them "Cowboys" and ended up doing it myself with your help so thanks again
matt
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Thanks for the video tutorial well handy about to try and fix a leak from that big rubber coupler
Really helpful and clear. Thankyou
Hi I am struggling to get the lever arm and the lever to separate. It is really tight on. I have wd40'd it. Bit reticent to hit it with a hammer. Any suggestions. Great videos. Thanks
That's great job, I learnt a lot from it
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Thanks for a great video - I cannot get the plastic nut of (in 9:55) what size is the wrench you are using?
Great video buddy many thanks for the usefull information 👍
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Quality video,thanks. Helped me a lot today.
I'm glad the video helped ;-)
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Thanks for a great and very clear vIdeo. Thx mate
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Good youtube video. i.e plain english. Helped me a lot. cheers
Great video, very informative. I have to change my syphon as my toilet won't flush at all. Fortunately I already have a Dudley turbo 88 installed so I only need to change the blue section. How do I measure which it to get the right size?
I measured the white tube and it's 8 inches with the water level at 7.5 inches. Do I take it I need the 8 inch turbo 88?
Any help greatly appreciated.
You don't need to buy anything, just remove the blue part and repair it-
toms top tips
cool thanks, I'll give it a go.
great video very instructional and detailed....thanks
Thank you again Great service !
just replaced mine using this video.
although, now have a leak on water in joint 😯
thanks very much helped me out heaps very happy indeed lee
useful video many thanks;
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Thanks it is a great video, but even if I do a perfect job the insurance company will not cover if any damage happened because of any problems, PS. it is a bad design shared in all the syphons I saw, replacement should be much easier
Syphons have been around for decades, their design is much better now 😉
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Good helpfull video thanks
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where did you buy your syphon from? I can't find one like yours.
Very good…thanks👍
Thank you! Cheers!
has the syphon got an overflow...?
Great stuff
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Thank you so very much for the video.Good work
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Followed this tips in this video today. Got away with just replacing the piston in the syphon. Total cost £1.20. Sorted! Mine is not a close-coupled toilet, so didn't have to remove the cistern which made it easier, as mentioned in the video. A tip I picked up is that you can now buy syphons which are in two pieces which means you can repair or replace just the moving bits without disturbing the pipework or the cistern. Why they weren't all designed like this in the first place is a mystery.
Thanks very good video spot on
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Imagine my surprise when I realised that - that toilet is EXACTLY the same as mine LOL . . . . . . But I must admit after seeing the reason you've gone for the more expensive flusher unit you've convinced me that's the one to buy this morning before I crack on !
well explained thanks, very helpful. I was going to attempt this myself but having seen the possible problem areas I think I'll call in a plumber.
Brilliant. It's a testament to the effort you put into your channel, that more than 8 years later, people like me are still finding your older videos really clear and useful. Thanks very much! 👍
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Just found this now and still doing the same job 👍🏻. Thanks for the great video, helped me right out
The video was posted 12 years ago and I found it very useful in 2023, thank you - it was very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
This is such a great video, thank you! I've just changed the syphon in my toilet, followed your superb advice and completed the job with no problems or leaks. Awesome! You have a real talent in explaining and demonstrating using high quality video and sound which makes tackling plumbing jobs so much simpler and safer. Thanks again
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Yes, the Dudley Turbo 88 has an internal overflow. (They call it the spill over level)
You made this video in 2011, but I just want to say thanks in 2019! It's been really helpful today.
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Thank you from 2021
This worked great for me! I had got a few quotes from plumbers that were way too expensive; so found your video on UA-cam, and decided to do it myself and saved myself a small fortune in the meantime! Cheers fella! ;)
How do you tell what the capacity of the cistern is, 7l or 9l
When I visit my family in Australia, they have normal light switches and sockets in their bathrooms and I have not heard of any accidents, so you can grind away with a mains operated angle grinder until your hearts content in Aussie!!
Thanks for the video, it was very well explained with attention to detail
+icespeckledhens
Sometimes it says in the cistern, but if not you can measure it when emptying it with a jug etc.
They also use 230v in most of Europe and you often see light switches and sockets in bathrooms abroad, but I guess you can never be too careful as there are some really stupid people out there that might try and use the angle grinder when taking a bath LOL.
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Fabulous !! I have just repaired the toilet whilst my husbands away on business as a surprise !!
Great for you! Not many people can do that. This is a joke.....Suppose your husband is the jealous, not trusting type..he might not believe you did this,and think you might be having an affair with a plumber or someone with that skills.....LOL. Great Job keep it up.
Winston Clifford ahahahaha I thought the same ,
But fair play to fixing the toilet 😉
Thanks so much, I'm 15 and my dad wanted me to fix ours, this video made it pretty simple
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Thanks for the video , i'm feeling brave enough to tackle the toilet on my own!
Excellent - felt like a pro when I replaced mine, really useful. Thanks for posting this.
good informative video fella.
ive actually learned something today:)
You made this video in 2011 and it's a valid today (Christmas eve) as when it was made. 24/12/2016 and my toilet cistern breaks - I have a family what do I do!!
Well I watched your video. I dropped down to screw fix, who had all the bits you showed - now I have a fixed toilet for Christmas day ---- THANK YOU :)
Never would have done this if it was not for your video :)
I'm glad the video helped Ian ;-)
The first time I ever replaced a syphon was at a similar time of year (I think it was Christmas eve) in about 2005.
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It's people like Ultimate Handyman taking the time to share their knowledge and experience that keeps me coming back to UA-cam to learn more and more. I'm typing this with the cistern on the floor and parts around it. Although I've done this before, I find there's always something to learn, like why not to use Silicon, and paying attention to good clean up before assembling things back together. The £18 device looks well worth the money to save the hassle and time it takes to remove the cistern, clean it all up, and install it again for the sake of a small plastic disc.
Very clear vid, thanks for helping us all save money pal, all the best
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Ultimate Handyman In your expert opinion, would this help solve having to press the handle down hard and fast every time to activate the flush? Due to weak diaphragm?
Yes, or you can remove the existing diaphragm and fit a new one. It's often better to just get a new syphon though!
Ultimate Handyman Appreciate that sir, I'll get the one in the vid
your a genious!! thanks man!!
Very good, clear instructions, easy to follow. I now feel confident to fix my non flushing cistern.
I see you have one dislike, I can only assume that must be from another plumber. You know, the type of plumber that likes to draw breath through his teeth before telling you it ain't going to be cheap.
Well done, great video.
A great help, thanks for posting
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Just want to say thank you, it was very useful!
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Thank you so much for that video! It told me almost everything I needed to know. I didn't know beforehand that I would need a new close-coupling kit. I certainly needed that!
The membrane on the original siphon had indeed broken. I got a £20 replacement from Screwfix and installed that. Now I have dual flush (good for me, being on a water meter) and also an internal overflow (the external overflow is still there, of course, but it won't be causing harm to my building if something happens). The new one is, like yours, far easier to replace than the old type if there is a problem in the future.
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Thank you for this thorough video!! I watched it this afternoon and tonight have accomplished the task. Couldn't have done it without your help! Thank you!
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i live in the U.S. and watch your videos mainly for entertainment even though most of what you post will probably not help me much here but I have gotten a lot of great tips from you. I never thought just how different american toilets can be from U.K. toilets. Our toilets have not changed much in a long time, nearly all of the guts in american toilets are universal, only thing that could be different would be the size of the flapper, which is what releases all the water into the bowl, but even then there are only two sizes and its easy to tell them apart. There are a couple of different styles of toilets but most (as in about 90 percent) are the same, white porcelain, with a 2 or 3 inch flapper (3 inch being post 2005 and 2 being pre 2005) and a single fill valve. Great videos though!
Thanks, I knew that they used flapper valves in the US, but have never seen one close up.
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Many thanks for sharing your experience on this plumbing problem I am unlucky that I have close cupped unit. Excellent explain many thanks again 👍
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Hi there, the 2 white tabs on the side !!!! what is the advantage of taking one out? .. I've just fitted this system and in all honesty can see no difference in the power of the flush ... I have no blockage and have the same as you here, but not sure why no power in the flush ... I can only put about 5/6 squares of tissue in and takes about 3 flush's ... any idea's please??
You'll have to read the instructions I'm afraid. It was years ago when I installed mine and I can't remember the plug combination.The two or more plastic plugs control the amount of water used for the flush.If your syphon is the same as mine, you need to hold the handle in the down position for a few seconds for a full flush.
Hi. On the Turbo 88 you push and release the lever for a full flush and push and hold for a partial flush.
Regarding the white plugs....
6L Nominal flush (cistern & WC pan installed from 1st Jan 2001):
Remove upper white plug only.
7L Nominal flush (cistern & WC pan installed after 1st Jan 1993):
Remove lower white plug only.
9L Nominal flush (WC pan installed before 1st Jan 1993):
Leave both white plugs in place.
Thanks for the info Josh ;-)
This was so helpful, thanks! I wish I'd watched yours before I just installed one. I've got a small leak from the bottom of the cistern. Really wish I wasn't going to have to take it off again! Argh.!
Excellent video.
1. Clarity of explanation: A
2. Accounting for the unexpected: A
3. Dealing with problems: A
4. Comprehensive instructions:A
I was all set for a long job on mine. But after watching this video I realised I had a 3 part, that just disconnects and lifts right out. Nice.
Great video.
P.S: My membrane was ripped. It is a sad fact that they don't make it easy just to replace the sheet of plastic, environmentally irresponsible.
I've had issues with the flush on my toilet for a while. got a plumber to come and take a look and of course it worked fine that day. After a few days of taking a few times to flush, it finally packed in altogether on the bank holiday weekend. This video was an absolute lifesaver for me. Without it I would have had to wait several days for a plumber and find someone to wait for them whilst I was at work. Having watched the video several times, I made a list f everything I might need, then went on the Bank holiday Monday to buy it all. Had a lot of difficulty getting the cistern off the wall because of rusted butterfly nuts and so had to cut them off. following the video though, everything else was fairly straightforward, even for someone like me who does as little DIY as possible. Great tip on the syphons that don't need removing in future to replace the membrane. Thank you for posting this.
I have this type of toilet, it’s knackered and I need a new one fitted! Any chance you are close to Liverpool and could come and do it for me please?
Your accent sounds like you may be from St Helens which is only down the road 🙏
Sorry, I'm miles away. Any local plumber will be able to sort it for you ;-)
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no worries, thanks very much for getting back to me.