4.3 V6 Corvair first drive. FAILURE? SUCCESS? What did we learn?

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2023
  • This is the tail of the first drive of the 1964 Corvair with a rear mounted 4.3 V6 engine. We found things that will need improvements for sure! We did find out it will hit 70 mph easily! It handles very well, stops well and drives strait.
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  • @barryhuddlestun3098
    @barryhuddlestun3098 9 місяців тому +4

    Nice job! You should make a similar dam on the driver's side. Then you could have a cold air intake on that side.

  • @PeterLee-zn3jl
    @PeterLee-zn3jl 6 місяців тому +2

    Lakewood side louvers would allow more air e try...
    And yes a perimeter to radiator , and a fan shroud to help cooling...
    Good work..!

  • @quadsman11
    @quadsman11 6 місяців тому +2

    Agree with you on your cooling challenges and planned solutions 100% !
    Every re-engineering design concept has it's challenges !
    Without any challenges, there would be no reward !!!
    Great job with the project so far !
    Merry Christmas !

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  6 місяців тому

      Thank you hope your Christmas is merry. We hope to get back to the Corvair this spring

  • @AdventuresWithMe00
    @AdventuresWithMe00 8 місяців тому +2

    I like what you did with this. Very unique and creative. Made me wonder why I hadn’t seen one before?

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  8 місяців тому

      There's a few around. There's a ramp side with a fuel injected 4.3, that install is very clean.

  • @markcollins457
    @markcollins457 5 місяців тому +3

    I have been fascinated with the Corvair since a kid and the rear mounted V6 is always been an idea I tossed around.
    I thought side quarter panel scoops made sense and an aluminum V6.

    • @untouched303659
      @untouched303659 2 місяці тому

      imagine if gm kept the Corvair around and put the lf4 twin turbo v6 out of the Cadillac ATS in it. Turbo charged all aluminum v6 pushing like 450 hp.

  • @saltracer1
    @saltracer1 Рік тому +2

    interesting project for sure!

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      Thanks it's been an experience for sure

  • @dennishedrick5108
    @dennishedrick5108 7 місяців тому +2

    I would think matching air scoops or lovers in the rear quarter panels would go along way to giving more air

  • @johanbjork1650
    @johanbjork1650 Рік тому +2

    The original Brittish Mini which was front engine transversly mounted had a similar radiator arrangement with i mounted longitudly next to the engine. They got it to work, i am sure you can.

  • @DavidEssex-fe6mx
    @DavidEssex-fe6mx 6 днів тому +1

    The American Porch Dinosaur! Lol😅

  • @patrickbass3542
    @patrickbass3542 6 днів тому +1

    I would expect better than 70 mph easily!!!!

  • @autosalvage
    @autosalvage Рік тому +1

    they make cooler and fan on the corvairs that had ac you could get a ac condensor and t off the water going though that also and have a fan mounted on it where it would bring the air in from the hood without cutting the hood then you could run some duck work on the rad side and mount a small fan to bring more air in on that side with cutting anything this sure has been great to see you put that in there

  • @kennybryant6577
    @kennybryant6577 6 днів тому +1

    Radiator in front venting under bumper no problem cooling

  • @jeanlawson9133
    @jeanlawson9133 Рік тому +2

    Awesome 😎 you got this....If that is your farm you were cruising...Great place.... I like this project...

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching! Yup, this is our place. I kinda have to live in the sticks with my habits. Lol

  • @laautoworks
    @laautoworks Рік тому +1

    Awesome Man!

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      Thanks. Just about close to done

  • @jeffreychristianson9134
    @jeffreychristianson9134 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations that's so cool to see an old car back on the road again 🎉

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +1

      Thanks I've already been in to the older cars

    • @janfswedane
      @janfswedane Рік тому +2

      Well, the idea of opening the decklid/hood slightly was used with great success by FIAT on their ABARTH editions of the 500/600...

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      @@janfswedane Thanks, The problem with having the hood gaped in the front (hinged end) is that we need to get the air out of under the hood

  • @jonminnella4157
    @jonminnella4157 19 днів тому +1

    Cool build I was thinking to do the same with 3.8 l67 in regards to your idea about the rad you need free air delivery for that to work well I would do like the fiero ans Mont in the front on a angle

  • @maryandwilliam
    @maryandwilliam Рік тому +2

    This is just too cool! (No pun intended).

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      Thanks, we kinda like it too. lol

  • @peterantonopoulos2572
    @peterantonopoulos2572 9 місяців тому +1

    Grreat installation ,im sure you'll work out the air flow issues. Shout out from the boyz in montreal

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  9 місяців тому

      Thank you. I hope to get back to this project soon

  • @NathansMoparGarage
    @NathansMoparGarage Рік тому +1

    Looks good crammed in there. Maybe you can adjust your hinges to raise up the end of the lid and get a kind of a ram air effect in there

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      Thank you , we need to go the opposite way need to draw air out. I did think about propping the lid open some

  • @brracing7861
    @brracing7861 Рік тому +1

    The latest Electric fans are Brushless ball bearings equipped motors. Still pricey. That old Ford Crown Victoria Cop Car Electric Fan is a good one. C4 Corvette guys used for a while. Stock was crap on C4 Corvette.
    Some Dodge Intrepid electric fan guys used to talk about using also small and moved alot of CFM Air

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +2

      We have to watch out for the depth of the fan assembly. There isn't much room

  • @brracing7861
    @brracing7861 Рік тому +1

    What a unique project car.
    Maybe a good inlet source of air is from the Right Hand Rear wheelhouse. Cut a square out of it.
    Build a Duct Funnel ?
    The 5.0 Mustang Renegade racers used to draw fresh air in from the Right front wheelhouse, no inner fenderwell like GM Cars have. Drilled cut out a 3 - 4 inch hole into the inner wheel area through thick Fenderwell Unibody, ran the aluminum tubing to and attached a K&N air filter. Disadvantage was filter got Road dirt on it driving but cool ambient High pressure air there driving.
    No hoodscoops or custom Ram Air design expense required.
    Still done that way 20 years later here Turbocharged LS GM Cars.

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, getting the intake air from the fender well wouldn't be a good idea since we live on a gravel road

    • @brracing7861
      @brracing7861 Рік тому +1

      @@Raycr Could maybe fit the present air filter in a box, like an Igloo. Run a fresh air pipe to it, from the tail pan of the Corvair?

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +1

      @@brracing7861 that's a possibility, the battery will be relocated to the front and we'd have that space to do something with

  • @stanallport6746
    @stanallport6746 4 місяці тому +1

    i would try it with hood off and see what ir needs exactly

  • @PapiDoesIt
    @PapiDoesIt 10 місяців тому +2

    I looked at this and did a little head scratching. Couldn't you leave the louvers the way they are and simply reverse the fans? Just blow the hot air out. Anyway, it's been fun watching the process.

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  10 місяців тому +1

      My thoughts were that we didn't want to draw the hot engine air across the radiator. Might not be a big deal but that's the reasoning for it

  • @brianyoung9014
    @brianyoung9014 Рік тому +1

    Put a one inch deep shroud on the radiator and mount the fan on the shroud so you pull air through the whole surface of the radiator.

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +1

      We're looking at a dual fan full shroud unit, a little trim to fit and it might be golden! Just need to watch out for the depth

  • @jamesthompson8008
    @jamesthompson8008 Рік тому +1

    After reading thru the comments, I'd think the shroud combined with your idea of walling off both ends of radiator 'should' work.
    IS it worth trying before cutting the decklid, possibly losing your sleeper edge??

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      I'm thinking that most wouldn't know the difference with more louvers. Corvair guys, on the other hand, would spot it across the parking lot! lol

  • @amjrpain919
    @amjrpain919 Рік тому +2

    Sounds alot Like the original motor ...

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching. It does keep the sleeper image going

  • @bigunone
    @bigunone 3 місяці тому +1

    I vaguely remember someone in the 60s adding a scoop just before the fender to bring cool air into the engine bay, like Ford did for the brakes on the mustang except these were the "NASA" style

  • @Friedbrain11
    @Friedbrain11 9 місяців тому +1

    Rear lights look odd with there being 3 instead of 2. No 'Vair came with 3 LOL

  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Рік тому +1

    Air is circulating around the radiator. Fix that and place a scoop or air inlet on the right side, as well.

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, we are going to seal around the radiator to prevent the recirculation of the heated air. It's in the works

  • @BuckDOESIT
    @BuckDOESIT Рік тому +1

    Stay cool 😎

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      Thanks BUCK, tryin' to!

  • @user-ni6gk7qp5b
    @user-ni6gk7qp5b 3 місяці тому

    por favor cuando ud adacto el motos v6 en el corvair , lo acoplo al tren de traccion original del corvair, quiero decir acoplo el motor v6 a la transmicion y a la caja original del corvair

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  3 місяці тому

      We are using the original transmission and rear axle from the Corvair. We used an adaptor belhousing to do this

  • @michaelfalkenstein2544
    @michaelfalkenstein2544 4 місяці тому +5

    Keep it original

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  4 місяці тому +2

      It's a little late for that! We have others that are still the way GM built them

  • @georgeochoa3089
    @georgeochoa3089 6 місяців тому

    Nice … how about disc brakes ?

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching. I'm pretty sure that disk brakes aren't necessary with the weight of the car and the balance

  • @GaryPierron-ym7xm
    @GaryPierron-ym7xm Місяць тому +1

    Plowed like a JohnDeere.

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Місяць тому

      Not a problem, I'm in farm country

    • @Isaac-sv7xt
      @Isaac-sv7xt Місяць тому +1

      @@RaycrI have some questions about the Corvair the original engine in mine went out and was wondering if you would recommend the v6 swap and if you used the original transmission

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Місяць тому

      @Isaac -sv7xt. It all depends on what you want out of your car. Do you want to just have a solid dayly driver? Do you want to increase proformance? You should evaluate what you want to end up with. The stock engine can be a good little power plant.

  • @graydonjones6912
    @graydonjones6912 Рік тому +1

    Without proper airflow from the outside it will never run cool

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  Рік тому

      We're working on airflow control now, and a fan setup with more CFM and shrouding. Hopefully that will get us where we need to be

  • @timcastens1150
    @timcastens1150 6 місяців тому +2

    When I had a heating problem with a motorcycle I went with 100 percent antifreeze, 30 years later it hasn't overheated again, just saying

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  6 місяців тому

      I'm going to start with air flow management, I'm sure with this configuration that there's room for improvement!

    • @nojunkwork5735
      @nojunkwork5735 2 місяці тому

      Pure antifreeze is way less efficient for cooling than antifreeze mixed with water. If you run pure antifreeze your engine will run warmer, not cooler.

    • @timcastens1150
      @timcastens1150 2 місяці тому +1

      @@nojunkwork5735 believe what you want, I tried in vain mixing it , it kept running hot until I went with straight antifreeze, doesn't antifreeze have a higher boiling point than water

  • @glengabruch4664
    @glengabruch4664 4 місяці тому +1

    That's a really cool build/ project!!!👍Please check out my 1968 Barracuda fastback powered by a rowdy 512 stroker backed by an A833 4 speed manual. I think you'll approve. 👌

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr  4 місяці тому +1

      That Cuda looks good and sounds great!

    • @glengabruch4664
      @glengabruch4664 4 місяці тому

      @@Raycr Thanks a lot. It's an absolute pleasure to drive. 👍