@@KingofHeroesGilgamesh Want to Make it Fair? Then Give Artoria to Rin and Let Alaya Summon CG Emiya instead just to Nuke the whole City along with all servants
@@TsiahIV Hello, can I ask a question about why in fate riding a dragon is so special even we have many others beasts ( or something similar) in the story, and we dont have so many examples of feats of a dragon as mount that makes a lot of diffeerent in battle for a servant?
Could just be me but I see this confrontation between Herc and Cordelion as a battle of wills one Cordelion couldn't win straight up so he uses his command seals to shake Herc's will/fresolve by attacking his mental. Once he's destabilized the mud finished things altering him into essentially his purely human form Alcides while giving up his divinity he probably gets some crazy powerful NP's to compensate for that lost Divinity. I feel like an underlying theme could be the malace of humans being enough to even bring down if not destroy the gods themselves.
@durrangodsgrief6503 at base yes we are told this straight up however the original comment is right. Him being corrupted by the grail mud gave him a new special phantasm in this new form that allows him to steal other Nobel phantasm and add them as a permanent buff to himself. For instance stealing Jack the rippers Nobel phantasm and gaining a magic buff and wings. We also learn he can STACK these buffs with him also powering up from stealing a dead Divine beast power! (Tho that took a shit ton of mana). So base Hercules is stronger but this version can scale higher depending on the Nobel phantasm he's able to steal to buff himself.
Yeah Heracles that guy. Now an Archer-Class and much better than his Berserker incarnation. I didn't know Bazidolt was like that but let's be real he done fucked up in corrupting bar none one of the strongest traditional servants... And making him an extra-class hybrid on top of that... Let the BS begin with Alcides.
So basically this guy is Black Air Force itself. He can make the BAF Roundtable bow in respect to him. Broly and Buu would quake when they see him. Revy and Roberta would piss themselves when they see him. Even Vampiric Booty warrior Alucard would shake his hand in acknowledgment.
I think almost every if not all female indian god are a sakuraface using her as the vessel/are derived from her, so im guessing shiva will either be a shinjiface or shirouface. And yh kali already uses sakura as a vessel. Im gonna assume any female indian panthon goddess will use sakura as the vessel, but for the male gods its still up in the air(aside from kama, we know how he looks as a male)
yeah einherjar seems more logical in its execution of the grail war like a random free for all in a major city while trying to hide magic is just dumb but the idea of a tournament bracket system makes more sense for the controlling mage society to me@@maddogandrew
Im pretty sure that they have mages get paid for creating coverup stories, ie the gas leak, pipes exploding. For more major things they probably use magecraft to alter memories after time has been taken to rebuild any damaged property.
Command spells are not there to keep the servant alive; they are there to keep the servant obedient. As long as the Master is alive, so would the servant (unless they have independent action like Emiya, or they switch master before they disappear like Medea)
Does Alcides have more better the stats then the hidden stats of archer Hercules , also how is sigma suppose to turn into the true lancer tho it’s cool that fate is creating original servants again
@@Christian_EscobarNah, as a general rule, Alters that have been corrupted by the Grail are generally weaker than their Normal counterparts, a lot weaker. The trade off is of course, that they get infinite mana, but in a fair fight, Alters almost always lose to their normal versions. Alcides is actually wayyyyy weaker than Archer Herc in terms of stats and archery prowess, since he has both, lost his divinity, already been nerfed by being corrupted, and also now has a mentality where he refuses to channel the power of Hippolyta's belt into his whole body, which would generally give him a huge boost.
@@aaravgaur7 Alcides is not an Alter, he's an avenger. And the mud doesn't provide him infinite mana. As for the stats I don't know how much it affected after he was corrupted but he gained some quite strong np in exchange for losing his divinity and becoming an avenger
I just want to point out that if Faldeus, someone who kills remorselessly and is comfortable openly disagreeing with Prelati says a guy is major bad news... I'm listening.
Hey so is there a noticeable difrence between Excalibur and Excalibur Morgan the sword altoria pendragon uses compared to altoria alter I'm just curious if there's lore on its creation or how it works and even saber alters armor vice versa I know with the armor at least salters should weigh more and be stronger but in heavens feel she was literally flying so it has me confused on that
I don't know if this is true but some say that Excalibur draws power from every warrior past, present or futures hopes and dreams. It might be a possibility that the opposite happens when Excalibur Morgan is used, instead of being powered by hopes and dreams of warriors it's their despair and savagery of those warriors
Alcides seems like an fgo character to me like the idea of Alcides existing should be only something a grail could make not because of the corruption but because of his lose of divinity that which is an essential part of Heracles very story his divinity the root of all his issues and the reason his myth even initiated to cut away his divinity is like cutting away Arthurs connection to uther or denying him caliburn its one of the most essential parts of his very existence the idea of the mud while not connected to the grail being able to not only corrupt but tear away a portion of Hercules very existence is nonsensical to me
Not... really? I mean Alcides's Divinity hasn't been removed by the Grail, it was Alcides himself who denied his divinity. So like, all the grail did was change his perspective and personality, all it did was give him a hatred of his own divine side, therefore causing him to forsake and give up all his divinity and become anti-divine(Similiar to what Gilgamesh does, but on a much more extreme scale).
Thats almost like thats the point of alcides... a man raging against the gods, giving up his connection to said gods-his divinity, the thing that made alcides become heracles, to become just a man. I think its actually logical, maybe not something normal but thats the point, and it makes for an interesting character. A man who stripped down what immortalized him just to prove a point. The whole theme of Strange Fakes Grail war is that nothing is operating as it should ever operate normally.
Imagine if Illya had Alcides instead of Herc.
War is over before it even start
Alcides vs artoria and her master as shirou seems really fair 💀
@@KingofHeroesGilgamesh Want to Make it Fair? Then Give Artoria to Rin and Let Alaya Summon CG Emiya instead just to Nuke the whole City along with all servants
@@ボーイアニメファン and make gil emma elish everyone
@@ボーイアニメファン Alaya should summon Emiya to take care of Angry Mango(Angra Mainyu). 😂😂🤣🤣
Feels like Kirei, Kazuki, and Kiritsugu fused into one person
exactly how i look at him. the personality matches too but ill address this soon
@@TsiahIV Hello, can I ask a question about why in fate riding a dragon is so special even we have many others beasts ( or something similar) in the story, and we dont have so many examples of feats of a dragon as mount that makes a lot of diffeerent in battle for a servant?
Could just be me but I see this confrontation between Herc and Cordelion as a battle of wills one Cordelion couldn't win straight up so he uses his command seals to shake Herc's will/fresolve by attacking his mental. Once he's destabilized the mud finished things altering him into essentially his purely human form Alcides while giving up his divinity he probably gets some crazy powerful NP's to compensate for that lost Divinity. I feel like an underlying theme could be the malace of humans being enough to even bring down if not destroy the gods themselves.
hes over all weaker than normal herc even surviving an attack based solely on his connection to herc
@durrangodsgrief6503 at base yes we are told this straight up however the original comment is right. Him being corrupted by the grail mud gave him a new special phantasm in this new form that allows him to steal other Nobel phantasm and add them as a permanent buff to himself. For instance stealing Jack the rippers Nobel phantasm and gaining a magic buff and wings. We also learn he can STACK these buffs with him also powering up from stealing a dead Divine beast power! (Tho that took a shit ton of mana).
So base Hercules is stronger but this version can scale higher depending on the Nobel phantasm he's able to steal to buff himself.
Yeah Heracles that guy. Now an Archer-Class and much better than his Berserker incarnation. I didn't know Bazidolt was like that but let's be real he done fucked up in corrupting bar none one of the strongest traditional servants... And making him an extra-class hybrid on top of that... Let the BS begin with Alcides.
This volume was FUCKING INSANE
requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 84
talk about having two gilgameshes at the same time living during fate/strange fake
So basically this guy is Black Air Force itself. He can make the BAF Roundtable bow in respect to him. Broly and Buu would quake when they see him. Revy and Roberta would piss themselves when they see him. Even Vampiric Booty warrior Alucard would shake his hand in acknowledgment.
Nah broly and buu was piss on him
@@mrhatandclogs cringe
Dude it was 11 months ago
@@mrhatandclogs I replied to the wrong person Mb I was talking about the other guy broly and buu stomp
Since we have Kama and Parvati as servants it begs the question who would Shiva and Kali use as vessels to be summonable in FGO?
Shiva could be a Shirou face 🤷🏼♂️
I think almost every if not all female indian god are a sakuraface using her as the vessel/are derived from her, so im guessing shiva will either be a shinjiface or shirouface. And yh kali already uses sakura as a vessel. Im gonna assume any female indian panthon goddess will use sakura as the vessel, but for the male gods its still up in the air(aside from kama, we know how he looks as a male)
@@rednaxela5960i hope isn't shinji
*Me has the light novels
*Also me doesn't have time to read them
Tsiah IV: I got you fam!
Dood finally thank you for making this video, been waiting for this a long time.
Fire vid as usual
holy Shit this Don Dude is on another level!!
Glad to see you doing more fate/strange fake can you talk about thia escardos ? or if he is just too unfamiliar to many then maybe pale rider
Great video as always man.
We know that Angra took the form of shirou can emiya become a angra if he get corrupted
Dang Cordelion is really like that
Yo, love the vid.
Could you do a "Don't sleep" for Bazdilot? That would be pretty cool.
That is horrifying
He is back
One thing I'm interested in is how the supernatural is hidden from the general public in fate.
yeah, people are literally destroying the world
Don't you know? Gas leaks are a lot more common than you think ;)
yeah einherjar seems more logical in its execution of the grail war like a random free for all in a major city while trying to hide magic is just dumb but the idea of a tournament bracket system makes more sense for the controlling mage society to me@@maddogandrew
Memory wipe and a lot of money
Im pretty sure that they have mages get paid for creating coverup stories, ie the gas leak, pipes exploding. For more major things they probably use magecraft to alter memories after time has been taken to rebuild any damaged property.
Always nice videos thank you ❤🎉
Thanks!
Can you do a video explaining tiamat like her powers and her nega-genesis and how she got to the singularity
How Alcides is alive if his master used all of his command seals?
Command spells are not there to keep the servant alive; they are there to keep the servant obedient. As long as the Master is alive, so would the servant (unless they have independent action like Emiya, or they switch master before they disappear like Medea)
Also grail mud gives you a body
Does Alcides have more better the stats then the hidden stats of archer Hercules , also how is sigma suppose to turn into the true lancer tho it’s cool that fate is creating original servants again
no its stated hes nothing but a lesser shadow of herc
@@durrangodsgrief6503i thought that’s was meant for his personality
@@Christian_EscobarNah, as a general rule, Alters that have been corrupted by the Grail are generally weaker than their Normal counterparts, a lot weaker.
The trade off is of course, that they get infinite mana, but in a fair fight, Alters almost always lose to their normal versions.
Alcides is actually wayyyyy weaker than Archer Herc in terms of stats and archery prowess, since he has both, lost his divinity, already been nerfed by being corrupted, and also now has a mentality where he refuses to channel the power of Hippolyta's belt into his whole body, which would generally give him a huge boost.
@@aaravgaur7 I see now, well it’s still a pity we won’t be able to see Herc in 100% in the next 20 year
@@aaravgaur7 Alcides is not an Alter, he's an avenger. And the mud doesn't provide him infinite mana. As for the stats I don't know how much it affected after he was corrupted but he gained some quite strong np in exchange for losing his divinity and becoming an avenger
What was different about his command spells, he used to control herc
I just want to point out that if Faldeus, someone who kills remorselessly and is comfortable openly disagreeing with Prelati says a guy is major bad news... I'm listening.
Niceeee
Hey so is there a noticeable difrence between Excalibur and Excalibur Morgan the sword altoria pendragon uses compared to altoria alter I'm just curious if there's lore on its creation or how it works and even saber alters armor vice versa I know with the armor at least salters should weigh more and be stronger but in heavens feel she was literally flying so it has me confused on that
From my understading regular excalibir is the good sode of the sword but excalibir morgan is the evil sode of the sword. Beyond that I have no clue
@thirdplanet4471 I see I was hoping for the man above to have the answers 🙏 salter is something seems nice when the times call for it
I don't know if this is true but some say that Excalibur draws power from every warrior past, present or futures hopes and dreams.
It might be a possibility that the opposite happens when Excalibur Morgan is used, instead of being powered by hopes and dreams of warriors it's their despair and savagery of those warriors
@nilodelmundo yea I heard it draws one the hopes and dreams so the opposite would be crazy to think about
Attempt 40 of asking you to do a video on white wolf's world of darkness
I have got a question until now who ia the strongest begin across all fate series?
Where do you read strange fake ???
Alcides seems like an fgo character to me like the idea of Alcides existing should be only something a grail could make not because of the corruption but because of his lose of divinity that which is an essential part of Heracles very story his divinity the root of all his issues and the reason his myth even initiated to cut away his divinity is like cutting away Arthurs connection to uther or denying him caliburn its one of the most essential parts of his very existence the idea of the mud while not connected to the grail being able to not only corrupt but tear away a portion of Hercules very existence is nonsensical to me
Not... really?
I mean Alcides's Divinity hasn't been removed by the Grail, it was Alcides himself who denied his divinity.
So like, all the grail did was change his perspective and personality, all it did was give him a hatred of his own divine side, therefore causing him to forsake and give up all his divinity and become anti-divine(Similiar to what Gilgamesh does, but on a much more extreme scale).
Thats almost like thats the point of alcides... a man raging against the gods, giving up his connection to said gods-his divinity, the thing that made alcides become heracles, to become just a man. I think its actually logical, maybe not something normal but thats the point, and it makes for an interesting character. A man who stripped down what immortalized him just to prove a point. The whole theme of Strange Fakes Grail war is that nothing is operating as it should ever operate normally.