To really show how rare the MEODP are, it was stated that Shiki Ryougi and Shiki Tohno can’t exist in the same universe as each other because the odds of two people in the same era having the MEODP were so low it was basically impossible. This was even shown through Roa, who despite already dying 17 times, obtained mystic eyes of life perception instead of death perception because Tohno already existed with them (which I’m pretty sure was also supposed to show how Roa, the man who pursued the end of all things only was ever able to see the origin of all things).
Its not that they cant exist together its that they both cant have MEODP and be from the same world. We already know Ryougi being in melty bloods world is canon because shes in the manga for a split second but its said she was sent back to wherever she was.
@@MeltyVampire yeah that’s what I meant. It’s fully possible that they both exist but just don’t have the meopd. It’s also possible that their personalities are different if the reason they got the MEODP never occurred (SHIKI killing tohno and SHIKI sacrificing himself to let ryougi live),
@@nightshrine4257 Nasu, even recently he has still reiterated that both Shiki’s who possess MEODP can not originate from the same world. The only moments they have EVER shared appearances (Melty Blood) it is because Ryougi crossed from another universe into Melty’s (like Mash and Dantes did in Type Lumina).
I like the mystic eyes of death perception even though they're extremely powerful they still don't make the user invincible so you can still have intense fights where the mystic eye user could lose even with an extremely powerful ability.
It's really like a very strong offense ability. On one hand you can one shot anyone with these eyes, on the other hand you have to work for it if you want to one shot stronger people.
@@Patrick-tg6wm and you can befall to smth like car accident or anything you dont predict. Honestly it would need someone who is already a mage or has some other super-powers preferrably something like speed and ability to teleport/get away from danger to make them truly invincible. Also the fact that they will eventually go insane is also big price.
I plan on watching the movies, I've been putting it off for a year, but I'll do soon I played Tsukihime but I everytime people discuss about it I feel out of the loop because they talk about things I don't even know about, I think "was this even said in the VN?", guess Melty Blood is important too
We're just lucky Cú Chulainn and Connla didn't get these eyes because the original owner of mystic eyes of death could actualize death onto people he didn't need to cut the death lines Balor of the evil eye was Cú Chulainn great grandfather
There's a video for that on youtube, or you can just check the wiki. The Mystic Eyes are split into coloured classes, with Death Perception being the highest tier (Rainbow).
I often thought that Ryougi Shiki was stronger than Nayana Shiki because she could turn off her Mystic Eyes of Death Perpection while Shiki Nayana could not. I find it find it interesting because of the remake Tsukihime that Shiki Tohno can even overcome with time, which I love the character. I often think that Mystic Eyes are what are comparable to seeing through the veil. As in level of understanding level magic to True Magic. Maybe it is a good thing there should be few people who possess it. Thank you for the video.
She cant turn them off that just how anime portrays it. Novels makes it clear that she is just unfocusing. She just has better tolerance to it because of her connection to the root but it can still strain her as seen when she first gets them. She just manages to not focus on them and tolerate it(and again her connection to the root)
@@emmanueltoledo5773 Yeah, as great as ufotable is at animating the series they also introduced a bunch of false ideas into the Nasuverse. Even the Banquet of Kings from Fate/Zero looked like a total victory for Iskandar only because ufotable portrayed it wrong (the novel was slightly more nuanced).
@@MokonaModokiESBut still has a better control over them than Tohno right? T Shiki has them at "100%" all times while R Shiki can not focus on them and get less strained by them? Does it work like that?
@@Fermin-hw5pd yeah just a bit. But its not like it separates them much in strength when its just a convenience for their normal lifes and mental health. What they are capable of doing with the eyes is its own separate can on worms
With how Ryougi and Tohno/Nanaya can be with their Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, I can't help but wonder how various blades in their hands can be like. Like imagine if they're able to wield Excalibur (doubtful, but imagine.) or a Lightsaber or The Master Sword (as doubtful as Excalibur, but also imagine) from The Legend of Zelda, or the Light Sword Cypher from Strider.
It’s honestly unnecesary. The reason they use knifes or katanas is because it favors their fighting styles. Nanaya especially was taught to fight with knives and other assassin-like skills (the Nanaya’s are basically psychic ninjas).
The relative "strength" of the instrument used to attack the lines & points seen by the mystic eyes user is immaterial, as what the user is attacking is not the physical form but rather its very concept/essence, which is the reason the eyes are capable of even destroying things without form as long as the user is able to conceptualize it. Take Shiki vs Fujino for instance, at first Shiki is unable to perceive the attacks from Fujino's Mystic Eyes of Distortion, but after the attack was used against her enough times Shiki was able to conceptualize the attack, describing it as a spiral of red and green and even calling it "beautiful." Once she could "see" the concept of the attack she could "cut" the concept of the attack thereby negating it.
I don't get why people think the weapons are needed. Both Ryougi and Tohno and shown the kill things by just touching the lines/points with their fingers.
@@ThoraeJenkins Heck, the first thing Tohno did when he woke up from the accident was used his finger to “cut” a line, and destroyed a bed in the process. And he even felt that if he just pressed the dot with his finger sonething “bad” would happen.
@@lenleon3699 Ryougi also merc'd a perfectly innocent bouquet of flowers in the same situation. It's not like it's something you can miss as long as you actually consume the content, so I imagine most people here are just secondaries.
Nice to see some representation for the Shiki's. Main difference is down to the details of the users as you mention. Tepeu also has mystic eyes. It does seem like there may only be one user per world with how they described it. Araya's point was more accurately a bunch of lines circling in the novels and didn't really seem to function identically to those in Tsuki. Remake shows Tohno doing some new things though these might not exactly be something from the mystic eyes of death as you mentioned he does have pure eyes and seems to have some other things going on with his background.
@kishacorheunbl115 sure, I could, but why bother when it's been confirmed for official release? That may be months away at the earliest, but what's a few more months after the years we've waited?
I really enjoyed this video. Even with the differences between the users and how they operate it just goes to show you can’t sleep on its ability entirely.
And here I thought the real question is if a raptor having eyes positioned differently from a human's would affect the Mystic Eyes of Death a little differently
Fun fact luminary arcuied isnt even the strongest version archetype earth is and i wouldnt think shiki stand a chance if she really intended on getting rid of him all she have to do is literally throw meteors shiki is not kenpachi hes not cutting a meteor
The only thing stopping Shiki Tohno from being OP is his fear of losing his mind. But, know that if he chooses to go batshit insane, he's one unstoppable force. As if he was incarnation of death itself. Thus he was dubbed as DEATH by his enemies. Now imagine having a servant of death itself in FGO. I'm betting my ass that it'll be Shiki Tohno.
@@danielbatista8760 no like, really. King Hassan was known as the Old Man of the Mountain. What I meant was the personification of Death from people of the past and even in modern times. They actually made a great sequel to Tsukihime, about Shiki after the story's events. You should go check it out.
That's still king hassan, or his usurper, Tezcalipoca if you want to get a more modern version of the personification of death. There's a major difference between a regular assassin, and a grand assassin.
@@comboer3334 tho it would be great to find a servant named DEATH. It's just a passing thought, really. And it would really connect since that's Shiki's name after the events of Tsukihime. A personification of Death to the immortals like the vampires.
I just summoned Ryougi Shiki and then this vid appears in my feed Edit: 11:04 well, that would explain how illya controlled Shirou with her eyes in the Fate route. Now, in what moment of the novel is it said that those are mystic eyes?
Now im just imagining all the assassin's in the hassan line getting summoned to take the shiki's out and either nope out of there as fast as possible or start fangirling over them
Now im having thoughts of some department from the mage association experimenting by giving near death experiences to mages on a daily basis to try and manifest the eyes.
I wonder if someone were to get a set of these eyes if they could experiment with them (like let's say the person with the eyes willingly sells them) then the person who bought them having seen the pain they put there original owner through tries to make the eyes more practical and stop the downsides
(in my own writing there's actually an idea that takes heavy inspiration from the idea behind mystic eyes though the system is different once you get into the details being something that might actually be even more powerful in scale, The first factor of these gifts as they're referred to by a good chunk of factions are rare phenomenon where someone is born with a unique connection to a word/name which can be measured in certain conditions such as the words scope (the word could only be external, internal or otherwise), The second factor is that these eyes operate within a domain (a measurement of the power and strength of a gift(very rarely 1 can increase there domain) the highest attainable domain is the truth tier where there powers operate on the same level of reality as base reality but the is one tier higher that Is pretty much an exception being the miracle tier where the changes made not just change base reality but can completely overwrite it, The third complication is that the word empowering a gift (it's nature/origin) can be of any language even those that are long since lost an example is Iris's eyes of opportunity which actually have the true name of potestas which operates within the abstract domain whilst under a seal that changes the name to limits it's output but unsealed operates within the special domain (eyes of this grade are known to overwhelm the user because Unlike normal eyes whom usually awaken in a very weak form these usually awaken within the truth or even miracle level at base (most eyes only manifesting in the instinct to reflection tiers (different areas for the power to be usable in )
not gona happen. Tohno makes absolutely certain to us an Roa that what he sees is the ultimate most repulsive thing that destroys your brain every second that you spend looking at it and is constantly tortured by it even when he has a method to aliviate it with the mystic eyes sealing glasses he got from Aoko. And even those become useless as the eyes keep getting stronger and he ends up having to cover them entirely with bandages. no one can save them if anything anyone that knows of them will have too much repulsion towards it. We have Arcueid the princess of the true ancestors one of the biggest entities in the planet, the literal brain/records of the planet as "archetype:earth" and among the most powerfull in the series, looks at Shiki and tells him that just because of those eyes he is a monster that wants to make her puke.
That's impossible for anyone but the only ones who originally had the MEODP to obtain and suffer the pain it'll give to it's users. Mages, Humans, Etc would literally ripped their own eyes out to feel relieved of the pain it give.
@@ChaolaoFueChi It's not impossible for those with inhuman blood I reckon. Demi gods with lineage from Death Gods or someone like Cu who is directly descended from Balor or hell even someone like Iori who's a sword demon at heart, would be able to keep their sanity.
Loved this video!!! I'd def say that Ryougi's route connection is a way better boon, because for Nanaya, he constantly risks brain frying when dealing with abstract concepts. Like I really think that if he tried fighting Fujino like Ryougi did, he'd def get brain damage since his brain isn't like Ryougi's
We already see that the more Nanaya use his eyes, the stronger he becomes. In Melty Blood which take places after Tsukihime he was able to kill TATARI which was made from information and rumor without suffering from brain damage.
@@raito07it wouldn't matter when you're dead anyways. Fujino would kill him before he even get what's happening. Tohno on early stages was only able to live by dumb luck and plot armor. He was getting saved or assisted left and right that even "love" itself becomes a factor lol.
@kishacorheunbl115 That's why I said AFTER Tsukihime bud. After he killed Roa, Tohno pretty much regain all of his life-force back which allow him to maintain superhuman feats more consistently.
Hi Tsiah i was wondering if you could do a Shiki tohno full potential video since i know you did one for shirou. I've always wondered what shiki's full potential could be with the nanaya arts mastered and no anemia or other hindrances
I think he could become comparable to a higher ranking dead apostle if he was able to use Roa's knowledge and vampiric body, his mystic eyes, nanaya clan skills maybe even training or direct enhancements/knowledge from arcueid and ciel on top of that would make him a menace But I don't think he would top the charts because he doesn't has "hax" aside from mystic eyes of death perception like a connection to the root or any special authority/mystery
We already know shiki tohno full potential in Talk and prelude as DEATH. in this mini story he killed two Death apostle ancestors, in prelude DAA is Louvre and in talk is Einnashe. In prelude Shiki Tohno as DEATH killed Louvre in matter of second, the poor man didn't even realized that hes dead until he see his body falling apart one by one. In Talk he killed another Death apostle ancestor known as Einnashe, though unfortunately in this one we didn't really see the fight, it happened off screen, we only see the outcome, and in that confirmed that Einnashe is death presumably by DEATH. Thought with a little help from ciel and merem solomon.
Hey tsiah is there anyway you could make a video on if shirou were to become a dead apostle,since his magecrafts weakness is literally his humanity I am kind of curious what his abilities or perhaps mutations he might develop if he became one,especially since it's not totally unlikely that he could get access to ideal blood considering the events of Lord El-Melloi
He'd become like Nrvsq Chaos but for weapons. "My body is made of swords" Would literally become real. And it would be ridiculously op. Imagine he replaces his skin with steel of Noble Phantasms. His durability would be off the roof. As a DA his magical energy also wouldn't be a problem as DA gain Mystery with time and the more blood they consume.. For shirou, he'd gain Mystery much more faster by recording Noble Phantasms and replacing his body parts with them.
Now imagine King Hassan with these Eyes, I mean, he probbly DID have them, but, yeah, that would a TRUE MONSTER. Imagine Grand Assassin with MEOTP coming right at you
The biggest flaw of them is that they are not beyond human. if someone ends up fast then them or manages to blind their vision magically like the glasses shiki uses, then they are goners.
they are low superhuman ( they was enhanced by somekind of magic to hunt the demon ) the glasses tohni shiki using possibly was created by true magic , i don't think is there anyone else can create that glasses other way to make them blind also too hard to do, you must using something not from earth or something from higher dimension to make tohno shiki blind and ryougi shiki temporary blind ( she still can see the line of those thing but it will take her a while to able to see it )
I'm certainly itching to know why someone who can move faster than a being that can dodge bullets while being wounded or cut the strongest True Ancestor in 17 pieces before she could react doesn't go beyond human. Especially when it is stated that having your Origin awakened grants the person great powers and Sion noted that Shiki's mind is trascendental and guides his body beyond its limits, even beyond superhuman beings.
Ever think how funny it would be if tohno shiki had to cut a piece of wood normally but kept accidentally cutting a line or point and obliterating the wood. Or like cutting a steak and woopsing through the table. Hell if he could do it with his bare hands imagine just scratching something and nuking it essentially.
he just uses his glasses and then he wont be doing it. Shiki's brain needs to recognice it for the effects to take place. Even if he is hitting the line while he doesnt see it he wont apply death its a subconscious thing. Otherwise he would be killing everything he touches with his hands as some lines are thick enough to use his finger(ryougi uses her finger to kill a plant when she first gets the eyes for example)
@@PureWhiteOrganism I know. But the funny thing is I looked that up 2 hrs after the video was uploaded and only noticed it after the fact. Google wasn't the culprit this time. Just life being strange.
For some reason I want to see him go into depth about Neco arc cuz I mean first of all its a joke character but her existence can still be explained as well as her powers. (I wonder if her lazer eye beam is a mystic eye that would be pretty funny)
why would he have them when is affinity isnt "death" but "swords". He is someone aligned with seeing himself as a blade to be used to save people. Each sword in UBW represeting the number of times he himself would have to die to save someone. He only sees his life as disposable with all the others being of higher value. He is fundamentally incompatible with the mystic eyes of death perception and even if he gotten them he would pull them out due to how repulsive it would be for him.
@@MokonaModokiES Indeed, wouldn't really matter too much since he's in a sense busted op in his own way. Though other characters in the Church, Mage Association, etc. They're is always a bigger fish in the pond, and onto the oceans and so on.
Shiki would win. I believe Shirou has a huge disadvantages against more to assassin's in general in his late teens, he maybe able to stall long enough to Shiki Tohno but both of them are on a time limit at best. I can see Shiki with scratches here and there but nothing fatal aswell to Shirou. Shiki would get the jumped on Shirou, though Shiki would go brain dead after the use of his MEODP.
I’ve been wondering can both shiki’s bypass karna and siegfried armor, also if they kill heracles then would it permanently kill heracles I mean they wouldn’t kill him 12 times.
To answer your question yes because it has been stated that they are both capable of killing gods however it is unlikely that they can actually get close enough to kill a servant unless they had help
@@JohnShepherd117interesting, I have been wondering on the matter since the requirements for penetrating karna and siegfried armor is aA+ rank weapons then both shiki's dagger wouldn't do any effect since it isn't at that level but if both had like excalibur or caliburn then that should work the trick right For heracles the main issue here is if they can kill them 1 time with it being 12 times similar to how caliburn killed heracles with 1 swing which consisted of him being killed 7 times.
MEODP killed an infinite space of nothingness, concepts without life or form, someone who merged with True Chaos and linked existences. No mere armor or defense is capable of stopping them, as they kill the "meaning" of the target and actualise the absolute concept of Death itself that stems from Akasha. It immediately triggers the predeterminated time of death that everything in existence has as soon as they are created. It's not physical destruction/damage, but purely conceptual existence erasure. In other words, piercing their point would remove the very concept of "Sieg/Karna/Herc" from existence alongside anything related to it. Not only that, but it draws its "potency" from Akasha itself, the boundless source from which all of creation stems from. They are essentially erased by Akasha itself and brought back to it, as it drains their lifespan to 0. TLDR: The physical substance which the target is made of is completely irrelevant to MEODP as they attack on a conceptual level. And even then, tney are a power that impose the absolute concept of Death sourced from Akasha itself, meaning that even a conceptual defense cannot protect you from it with as absolute concepts are the highest you can go in terms of potency. You'd require something that counters the ability down to its nature. Like Souren Araya's Origin, which makes him a static organism that lacks any form change, which Death count as. Being removed from the cycle of reincarnation (But even that only results into an advanced concept of death that could be bypassed given enough time). Or lacking a concept of Death entirely, meaning that there is nothing for the user to visualize and bring forth. However MBAA implied that Ryougi's MEODP evolved enough that she can instill the concept of Death in beings that lacks it. So even that may not help. Needless to say, Sieg/Karna/Herc have none of that in the first place, as such they would die.
Only IF the user of the mystic eyes can properly see their death lines. Or in the case of Void Shiki, she might as well hit the Ctrl+alt+delete combo on the Heroic Spirit concept 😂.
How it's work it's that, that eyes can only show you the origin of a life, you strike them but it doesn't have the guaranteed death unless you really hit it on the most vital point. Basically the eyes allows you to Crit Strike your opponent. For MEoDP those lines acts as their death when cut. It actualized death.
they are still human beings limited by the capabilities of their bodies. There are plenty of superhumans and monsters that make it a massive challenge for them to actually make use of their abilities since they actually have to manage to stab/slice them to make use of their ability. Case in point Tohno vs Vlov is peak example of it and how Shiki needed external help to even be able to win.
@@Dogofwar9 Strong vampires have telepathy so that's not really a problem for Tohno when he's kill-mode. The best option would simply be to long range AOE them or be super bullshit since challenging them directly in close range is foolish. We see in MB that even Arc wouldn't do such a thing against a wildcard like Shiki. But Tohno does show some ranged application in Remake so they're very versatile. The very best defense would be to not have a death that's easily visible but even that seems to have workarounds.
@@putsagatinmeltyblood7679 an aoe like what? Gilgamesh/enkidu’s EA? Or like Karna’s np? Sorry Ive never played melty blood, garden of sinners or tsukihime so I really dont get how they work.
@@Dogofwar9 I just said AoE so as to more easily 'hit' them with like a stray attack. Though I'm not sure that would work since as we see in Tsukihime when Shiki kills something it loses all meaning such as momentum and such. The eyes can kill anything the user perceives as alive which includes basically everything you can think of so it is very versatile. So it really just comes down to what the author wants to write.
They also be having a hidden background of demon hunters as well, lol. They're clans were also "very close" too. They are also somewhat demons in a way aswell and beyond.
Nope, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can bypass intangible, so it completely bypasses Avalon, the healing from Avalon wouldn't even be usable because cutting death lines and points if death results in an instant death
So....do they still work if they get cataracts? Is it affected by near/far sightness? Can Shiki peer through a telescope and shoot projectiles to kill aliens?
Hey so, do any of the Hassan have the Mystic Eyes of Death? Or any other type of Mystic Eyes? Im not as informed about a lot of the lore. Any help would be appreciated.
Tsukihime, Kagetsu tohya(fandisk like hollow ataraxia for fate stay night) and melty blood(spin off fighting game series). Thats it. also its all VN games. No animes(no the 2002 JC staff garbage is not a tsukihime anime, its an anime but not tsukihime anime)
Tono wiped out Berserker Hercules in a second. It was Tsukihime x Fate cross-over. A freaking Demi-God that got done in by a mortal. That right there just scales how powerful these eyes are and how crazy the mental fortitude of these wherein most beings would claw their own eyes out if they ever use it personally. Loved how Shirou put Roa in the Backfoot. Finished off by Tono though but just shows the Shiros own fortitude against an dead apostle.
@@r.k845 May not have been official but damn the ideas are interesting. Though I'll admit. It's odd to see Hercules dying. Maybe if the Remake version was here. Possibly?
? Kara no Kyokai/Garden of Sinners 1-8/9 movies, all in un-chronological orders with the female chicken in a leather red coat. The dude is from Tsukihime/Moon Princess (remake) only a visual novel game but the anime may take centuries to come. 7 routes for 7 heroine's is a lot that F/SN 3 main girls.
@@PureWhiteOrganism they still are when they keep referencing them even on remake. Kouma bringing up everything from KT that still hasnt been remade. Some of the fate series refering to the old Dead apostle ancestor list like Strange Fake. and well Neco arc being straight up summoned from the OG tsukihime into remake by her own words in her arcade intro. pretty much just take it as the usual "alternate timeline, everything is canon and nothing ever loses relevance"
Either of the Shikis are infinitely faster than canon Goku (Can speedblitz characters that can process a reality consisting of layers each having a cosmos in it in a nanosecond) and MEODP does not care about his physical durability since it erases the very concept/meaning of an individual. Not sure if they are faster than TOEI Goku though since he seems to have speed on a vaguely similar tier. Void Shiki blinks composite DB with a thought.
To really show how rare the MEODP are, it was stated that Shiki Ryougi and Shiki Tohno can’t exist in the same universe as each other because the odds of two people in the same era having the MEODP were so low it was basically impossible. This was even shown through Roa, who despite already dying 17 times, obtained mystic eyes of life perception instead of death perception because Tohno already existed with them (which I’m pretty sure was also supposed to show how Roa, the man who pursued the end of all things only was ever able to see the origin of all things).
Its not that they cant exist together its that they both cant have MEODP and be from the same world. We already know Ryougi being in melty bloods world is canon because shes in the manga for a split second but its said she was sent back to wherever she was.
@@MeltyVampire yeah that’s what I meant. It’s fully possible that they both exist but just don’t have the meopd. It’s also possible that their personalities are different if the reason they got the MEODP never occurred (SHIKI killing tohno and SHIKI sacrificing himself to let ryougi live),
@@ShikiRawr I think I could live with a new personality Tohno he can be pretty rude sometimes.
Where is this stated exactly? I've never heard about this part before
@@nightshrine4257 Nasu, even recently he has still reiterated that both Shiki’s who possess MEODP can not originate from the same world. The only moments they have EVER shared appearances (Melty Blood) it is because Ryougi crossed from another universe into Melty’s (like Mash and Dantes did in Type Lumina).
For people wondering whether or not MEoDP can be used with projectiles, look up the character Tepeu. He has MEoDP and fights with a submachine gun.
Damn, that is actually busted
Based asf dinosaur
Bro was ready to take away one of ORT'S lives with a knife
@@crimsonarc03In which part of LB7 does it happen?
I'd like to watch it again to check.
@@ribiagio98 When Ort-chan reaches Mictlan.
This video is missing Shiki Tohno's greatest feat: Killing the "badness" on a sandwich prepared by Hisui.
Could he eat all of animes most horrible cooking by killing the bad taste in it then?
I like the mystic eyes of death perception even though they're extremely powerful they still don't make the user invincible so you can still have intense fights where the mystic eye user could lose even with an extremely powerful ability.
thats the best part
It's really like a very strong offense ability. On one hand you can one shot anyone with these eyes, on the other hand you have to work for it if you want to one shot stronger people.
It takes a heavy toll on the user the more they go "deeper". Like the more they focus, they can see more lines but it gets more harder to use.
@@Patrick-tg6wm and you can befall to smth like car accident or anything you dont predict. Honestly it would need someone who is already a mage or has some other super-powers preferrably something like speed and ability to teleport/get away from danger to make them truly invincible. Also the fact that they will eventually go insane is also big price.
ultimate glass cannon
Folks really should give KnK and Tsukihime a try. They don't know the good shit that they're missing on.
I plan on watching the movies, I've been putting it off for a year, but I'll do soon
I played Tsukihime but I everytime people discuss about it I feel out of the loop because they talk about things I don't even know about, I think "was this even said in the VN?", guess Melty Blood is important too
In short they are almost the same, difference are mostly in the users (characteristics) and how (with what basis) they awakened it.
May you do a video going into deep detail of the difference between Excalibur and Caliburn with their respective abilities
@@ChaolaoFueChi yup
YES!!! DO MORE VIDS ON TSUKIHIME CHARACTS PLS!!!!!!
No, read for yourself
@@jtamiing559 I did!!! I love tsukihime and with the remake I love it even more!!!
all my homies love Tsukihime
That Shiki CG is so cold
We're just lucky Cú Chulainn and Connla didn't get these eyes because the original owner of mystic eyes of death could actualize death onto people he didn't need to cut the death lines Balor of the evil eye was Cú Chulainn great grandfather
Reminder that there is a dinosaur(shiki?) that has the mystic eyes of death in lostbelt 7
Now I want to know every type of mystic eye there is and the abilities that are give .
Same
There's a video for that on youtube, or you can just check the wiki. The Mystic Eyes are split into coloured classes, with Death Perception being the highest tier (Rainbow).
I often thought that Ryougi Shiki was stronger than Nayana Shiki because she could turn off her Mystic Eyes of Death Perpection while Shiki Nayana could not.
I find it find it interesting because of the remake Tsukihime that Shiki Tohno can even overcome with time, which I love the character.
I often think that Mystic Eyes are what are comparable to seeing through the veil. As in level of understanding level magic to True Magic. Maybe it is a good thing there should be few people who possess it.
Thank you for the video.
She cant turn them off that just how anime portrays it. Novels makes it clear that she is just unfocusing. She just has better tolerance to it because of her connection to the root but it can still strain her as seen when she first gets them. She just manages to not focus on them and tolerate it(and again her connection to the root)
@MokonaModokiES I did not know that. I wished that light novel of Kara no Kyoukai was available to English. Thank you for the info.
@@emmanueltoledo5773 Yeah, as great as ufotable is at animating the series they also introduced a bunch of false ideas into the Nasuverse. Even the Banquet of Kings from Fate/Zero looked like a total victory for Iskandar only because ufotable portrayed it wrong (the novel was slightly more nuanced).
@@MokonaModokiESBut still has a better control over them than Tohno right? T Shiki has them at "100%" all times while R Shiki can not focus on them and get less strained by them? Does it work like that?
@@Fermin-hw5pd yeah just a bit. But its not like it separates them much in strength when its just a convenience for their normal lifes and mental health. What they are capable of doing with the eyes is its own separate can on worms
With how Ryougi and Tohno/Nanaya can be with their Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, I can't help but wonder how various blades in their hands can be like. Like imagine if they're able to wield Excalibur (doubtful, but imagine.) or a Lightsaber or The Master Sword (as doubtful as Excalibur, but also imagine) from The Legend of Zelda, or the Light Sword Cypher from Strider.
It’s honestly unnecesary. The reason they use knifes or katanas is because it favors their fighting styles. Nanaya especially was taught to fight with knives and other assassin-like skills (the Nanaya’s are basically psychic ninjas).
The relative "strength" of the instrument used to attack the lines & points seen by the mystic eyes user is immaterial, as what the user is attacking is not the physical form but rather its very concept/essence, which is the reason the eyes are capable of even destroying things without form as long as the user is able to conceptualize it. Take Shiki vs Fujino for instance, at first Shiki is unable to perceive the attacks from Fujino's Mystic Eyes of Distortion, but after the attack was used against her enough times Shiki was able to conceptualize the attack, describing it as a spiral of red and green and even calling it "beautiful." Once she could "see" the concept of the attack she could "cut" the concept of the attack thereby negating it.
I don't get why people think the weapons are needed. Both Ryougi and Tohno and shown the kill things by just touching the lines/points with their fingers.
@@ThoraeJenkins Heck, the first thing Tohno did when he woke up from the accident was used his finger to “cut” a line, and destroyed a bed in the process. And he even felt that if he just pressed the dot with his finger sonething “bad” would happen.
@@lenleon3699 Ryougi also merc'd a perfectly innocent bouquet of flowers in the same situation.
It's not like it's something you can miss as long as you actually consume the content, so I imagine most people here are just secondaries.
They may be strong, but are they strong enough to cut through my depression?
lets goooo finally a video about the mystic eyes of death
Nice to see some representation for the Shiki's. Main difference is down to the details of the users as you mention. Tepeu also has mystic eyes. It does seem like there may only be one user per world with how they described it. Araya's point was more accurately a bunch of lines circling in the novels and didn't really seem to function identically to those in Tsuki. Remake shows Tohno doing some new things though these might not exactly be something from the mystic eyes of death as you mentioned he does have pure eyes and seems to have some other things going on with his background.
I'm so glad that TsukiRe is getting translated. Ive put off rereading the OG for like a year out of hope that it'll be released stateside.
@kishacorheunbl115 sure, I could, but why bother when it's been confirmed for official release? That may be months away at the earliest, but what's a few more months after the years we've waited?
I really enjoyed this video. Even with the differences between the users and how they operate it just goes to show you can’t sleep on its ability entirely.
And here I thought the real question is if a raptor having eyes positioned differently from a human's would affect the Mystic Eyes of Death a little differently
Hi john
Fun fact luminary arcuied isnt even the strongest version archetype earth is and i wouldnt think shiki stand a chance if she really intended on getting rid of him all she have to do is literally throw meteors shiki is not kenpachi hes not cutting a meteor
Could the lines of death be shot? Could either Shiki use a sniper rilfe and hit a node, cause that would be stupidly broken
Yep, Shiki and Sion shot Wallachia's point in Melty Blood.
one shot one kill ahh power
once i talked back to my mom once and now i have mystic eyes of death
Do you think the first Hassan also has Mystic Eyes death perception?
I don’t think so since he was unable to permanently kill Ozy and he didn’t one shot Tiamat
The only thing stopping Shiki Tohno from being OP is his fear of losing his mind. But, know that if he chooses to go batshit insane, he's one unstoppable force. As if he was incarnation of death itself.
Thus he was dubbed as DEATH by his enemies.
Now imagine having a servant of death itself in FGO. I'm betting my ass that it'll be Shiki Tohno.
King Hassan
@@danielbatista8760 no like, really. King Hassan was known as the Old Man of the Mountain. What I meant was the personification of Death from people of the past and even in modern times.
They actually made a great sequel to Tsukihime, about Shiki after the story's events. You should go check it out.
That's still king hassan, or his usurper, Tezcalipoca if you want to get a more modern version of the personification of death. There's a major difference between a regular assassin, and a grand assassin.
@@comboer3334 tho it would be great to find a servant named DEATH. It's just a passing thought, really. And it would really connect since that's Shiki's name after the events of Tsukihime. A personification of Death to the immortals like the vampires.
@@AlwaysGong tsukihime sequel? What's it called?
I just summoned Ryougi Shiki and then this vid appears in my feed
Edit: 11:04 well, that would explain how illya controlled Shirou with her eyes in the Fate route. Now, in what moment of the novel is it said that those are mystic eyes?
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Day 11. Tell me what you see
Now im just imagining all the assassin's in the hassan line getting summoned to take the shiki's out and either nope out of there as fast as possible or start fangirling over them
Now im having thoughts of some department from the mage association experimenting by giving near death experiences to mages on a daily basis to try and manifest the eyes.
I also remember roa have a similar eyes but only works on living things
I wonder if someone were to get a set of these eyes if they could experiment with them (like let's say the person with the eyes willingly sells them) then the person who bought them having seen the pain they put there original owner through tries to make the eyes more practical and stop the downsides
(in my own writing there's actually an idea that takes heavy inspiration from the idea behind mystic eyes though the system is different once you get into the details being something that might actually be even more powerful in scale,
The first factor of these gifts as they're referred to by a good chunk of factions are rare phenomenon where someone is born with a unique connection to a word/name which can be measured in certain conditions such as the words scope (the word could only be external, internal or otherwise),
The second factor is that these eyes operate within a domain (a measurement of the power and strength of a gift(very rarely 1 can increase there domain) the highest attainable domain is the truth tier where there powers operate on the same level of reality as base reality but the is one tier higher that Is pretty much an exception being the miracle tier where the changes made not just change base reality but can completely overwrite it,
The third complication is that the word empowering a gift (it's nature/origin) can be of any language even those that are long since lost an example is Iris's eyes of opportunity which actually have the true name of potestas which operates within the abstract domain whilst under a seal that changes the name to limits it's output but unsealed operates within the special domain (eyes of this grade are known to overwhelm the user because Unlike normal eyes whom usually awaken in a very weak form these usually awaken within the truth or even miracle level at base (most eyes only manifesting in the instinct to reflection tiers (different areas for the power to be usable in )
not gona happen. Tohno makes absolutely certain to us an Roa that what he sees is the ultimate most repulsive thing that destroys your brain every second that you spend looking at it and is constantly tortured by it even when he has a method to aliviate it with the mystic eyes sealing glasses he got from Aoko. And even those become useless as the eyes keep getting stronger and he ends up having to cover them entirely with bandages.
no one can save them if anything anyone that knows of them will have too much repulsion towards it. We have Arcueid the princess of the true ancestors one of the biggest entities in the planet, the literal brain/records of the planet as "archetype:earth" and among the most powerfull in the series, looks at Shiki and tells him that just because of those eyes he is a monster that wants to make her puke.
That's impossible for anyone but the only ones who originally had the MEODP to obtain and suffer the pain it'll give to it's users. Mages, Humans, Etc would literally ripped their own eyes out to feel relieved of the pain it give.
@@ChaolaoFueChi
It's not impossible for those with inhuman blood I reckon.
Demi gods with lineage from Death Gods or someone like Cu who is directly descended from Balor or hell even someone like Iori who's a sword demon at heart, would be able to keep their sanity.
That’s that shiki GREATNESS I was waiting for.
Loved this video!!! I'd def say that Ryougi's route connection is a way better boon, because for Nanaya, he constantly risks brain frying when dealing with abstract concepts. Like I really think that if he tried fighting Fujino like Ryougi did, he'd def get brain damage since his brain isn't like Ryougi's
Correction: I meant to say root, my bad
We already see that the more Nanaya use his eyes, the stronger he becomes. In Melty Blood which take places after Tsukihime he was able to kill TATARI which was made from information and rumor without suffering from brain damage.
@@raito07it wouldn't matter when you're dead anyways. Fujino would kill him before he even get what's happening. Tohno on early stages was only able to live by dumb luck and plot armor. He was getting saved or assisted left and right that even "love" itself becomes a factor lol.
@kishacorheunbl115 That's why I said AFTER Tsukihime bud. After he killed Roa, Tohno pretty much regain all of his life-force back which allow him to maintain superhuman feats more consistently.
@@raito07 op said "if he fought fujino like Ryougi did" which happens early in knk.
THE TSUKIHIME VIDEOS ARE COMING! YESSS!!!
Hi Tsiah i was wondering if you could do a Shiki tohno full potential video since i know you did one for shirou. I've always wondered what shiki's full potential could be with the nanaya arts mastered and no anemia or other hindrances
I think he could become comparable to a higher ranking dead apostle if he was able to use Roa's knowledge and vampiric body, his mystic eyes, nanaya clan skills maybe even training or direct enhancements/knowledge from arcueid and ciel on top of that would make him a menace
But I don't think he would top the charts because he doesn't has "hax" aside from mystic eyes of death perception like a connection to the root or any special authority/mystery
Read talk/prelude
We already know shiki tohno full potential in Talk and prelude as DEATH.
in this mini story he killed two Death apostle ancestors, in prelude DAA is Louvre and in talk is Einnashe.
In prelude Shiki Tohno as DEATH killed Louvre in matter of second, the poor man didn't even realized that hes dead until he see his body falling apart one by one.
In Talk he killed another Death apostle ancestor known as Einnashe, though unfortunately in this one we didn't really see the fight, it happened off screen, we only see the outcome, and in that confirmed that Einnashe is death presumably by DEATH. Thought with a little help from ciel and merem solomon.
A don't sleep on Satsujinki would be dope
Hey tsiah is there anyway you could make a video on if shirou were to become a dead apostle,since his magecrafts weakness is literally his humanity I am kind of curious what his abilities or perhaps mutations he might develop if he became one,especially since it's not totally unlikely that he could get access to ideal blood considering the events of Lord El-Melloi
He'd become like Nrvsq Chaos but for weapons.
"My body is made of swords" Would literally become real.
And it would be ridiculously op. Imagine he replaces his skin with steel of Noble Phantasms.
His durability would be off the roof.
As a DA his magical energy also wouldn't be a problem as DA gain Mystery with time and the more blood they consume..
For shirou, he'd gain Mystery much more faster by recording Noble Phantasms and replacing his body parts with them.
Don't sleep on Nanaya shiki when?
Can you do how did emiya get his holy shroud? I think it'll be a fun vid
O man ive been waiting for more on tsukihime / kara no kyoukai from here. Lets go
if you look this way it reminds me of the greek mythology, the three sisters of fate is like the eyes allow them to do the same as Atropos.
Protagonist are the highest lifeform in any kind of fiction, even topping gods 😂
requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 75
requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 76
Good finally got tsukihime video that tells you something you don't really know about that much
I need more tsukihime content
Now imagine King Hassan with these Eyes, I mean, he probbly DID have them, but, yeah, that would a TRUE MONSTER. Imagine Grand Assassin with MEOTP coming right at you
The biggest flaw of them is that they are not beyond human. if someone ends up fast then them or manages to blind their vision magically like the glasses shiki uses, then they are goners.
they are low superhuman ( they was enhanced by somekind of magic to hunt the demon )
the glasses tohni shiki using possibly was created by true magic , i don't think is there anyone else can create that glasses
other way to make them blind also too hard to do, you must using something not from earth or something from higher dimension to make tohno shiki blind and ryougi shiki temporary blind ( she still can see the line of those thing but it will take her a while to able to see it )
I'm certainly itching to know why someone who can move faster than a being that can dodge bullets while being wounded or cut the strongest True Ancestor in 17 pieces before she could react doesn't go beyond human. Especially when it is stated that having your Origin awakened grants the person great powers and Sion noted that Shiki's mind is trascendental and guides his body beyond its limits, even beyond superhuman beings.
Ever think how funny it would be if tohno shiki had to cut a piece of wood normally but kept accidentally cutting a line or point and obliterating the wood. Or like cutting a steak and woopsing through the table. Hell if he could do it with his bare hands imagine just scratching something and nuking it essentially.
he just uses his glasses and then he wont be doing it. Shiki's brain needs to recognice it for the effects to take place. Even if he is hitting the line while he doesnt see it he wont apply death its a subconscious thing. Otherwise he would be killing everything he touches with his hands as some lines are thick enough to use his finger(ryougi uses her finger to kill a plant when she first gets the eyes for example)
just had a brain wave, when I saw Arcuid Luminary form, like what if hear me out, Gil vs Arcuid, it either be a blitz or a cool fight
The world would look like Pluto, I presume.
Freaky...I JUST finished looking up Mystic Eyes on a whim and saw this in my notifications.
@@PureWhiteOrganism I know. But the funny thing is I looked that up 2 hrs after the video was uploaded and only noticed it after the fact. Google wasn't the culprit this time. Just life being strange.
So Shiki literally pulled a Musashi in Fate/Extra? Interesting.
I would love to see your take on the Fate console games and the 2D moon fighting game (can’t remember the name but it’s recent)
The one with Arcuaid in it the vampire lady
Can you do a "don't SLEEP on li shuwen" video?
Make a video on Arcueid
Yo where that's don't sleep on shiki video.
For some reason I want to see him go into depth about Neco arc cuz I mean first of all its a joke character but her existence can still be explained as well as her powers. (I wonder if her lazer eye beam is a mystic eye that would be pretty funny)
Now question, what is the difference between what the mystic eyes and King Hassan could? And do those mystic eyes have an effect on some one like him?
jesus you get floaters in your eyes just to catch a body and life sentence
How does any shiro not have these eyes yet
why would he have them when is affinity isnt "death" but "swords". He is someone aligned with seeing himself as a blade to be used to save people. Each sword in UBW represeting the number of times he himself would have to die to save someone. He only sees his life as disposable with all the others being of higher value. He is fundamentally incompatible with the mystic eyes of death perception and even if he gotten them he would pull them out due to how repulsive it would be for him.
@@MokonaModokiES
Indeed, wouldn't really matter too much since he's in a sense busted op in his own way. Though other characters in the Church, Mage Association, etc. They're is always a bigger fish in the pond, and onto the oceans and so on.
What if the King Hassan had the Mystic Eyes of Death.
He doesn't. He would've killed gawain if that were the case
I know, I was just thinking how much more busted he'd be.
I’ll be honest I got into the fate series and tsukihime last week because I saw Melty blood on Xbox and said “fuck it why not?”
@@PureWhiteOrganism question, is it normal to be this confused?
@@PureWhiteOrganism okay good, I thought I just really missed something
Exactly my honest reaction.
I don't know if this a coincidence or some higher power at work but why is it that all who have these eyes named Shiki?
So..who's ready to start a debate !? Who'd win in a fight...shiki tohno or shirou emiya?
According to nasu Shiki but he’d die right after
Shiki would win. I believe Shirou has a huge disadvantages against more to assassin's in general in his late teens, he maybe able to stall long enough to Shiki Tohno but both of them are on a time limit at best. I can see Shiki with scratches here and there but nothing fatal aswell to Shirou. Shiki would get the jumped on Shirou, though Shiki would go brain dead after the use of his MEODP.
if king hassan is the embodiment of the concept of death, may we suppose that he has a pair of mystic eyes of death perception?
No, otherwise he could've beaten Tiamat singlehandedly.
Absolutely not. The truth is, king Hassan just doesn't compare
I meant in the sense that if King Hassan had MEODP, he could've killed Tiamat just like Tepeu killed ORT.
was referring to david's question
Oh. Alright.
I just wish to show finally got a dub I've been waiting years for that.
Did you cover the concept of the Mystic Eyes in general?
I’ve been wondering can both shiki’s bypass karna and siegfried armor, also if they kill heracles then would it permanently kill heracles I mean they wouldn’t kill him 12 times.
To answer your question yes because it has been stated that they are both capable of killing gods however it is unlikely that they can actually get close enough to kill a servant unless they had help
Reminds me of a doujin. Damm I never got to see how it ended
@@JohnShepherd117interesting, I have been wondering on the matter since the requirements for penetrating karna and siegfried armor is aA+ rank weapons then both shiki's dagger wouldn't do any effect since it isn't at that level but if both had like excalibur or caliburn then that should work the trick right
For heracles the main issue here is if they can kill them 1 time with it being 12 times similar to how caliburn killed heracles with 1 swing which consisted of him being killed 7 times.
MEODP killed an infinite space of nothingness, concepts without life or form, someone who merged with True Chaos and linked existences. No mere armor or defense is capable of stopping them, as they kill the "meaning" of the target and actualise the absolute concept of Death itself that stems from Akasha. It immediately triggers the predeterminated time of death that everything in existence has as soon as they are created. It's not physical destruction/damage, but purely conceptual existence erasure. In other words, piercing their point would remove the very concept of "Sieg/Karna/Herc" from existence alongside anything related to it. Not only that, but it draws its "potency" from Akasha itself, the boundless source from which all of creation stems from. They are essentially erased by Akasha itself and brought back to it, as it drains their lifespan to 0.
TLDR: The physical substance which the target is made of is completely irrelevant to MEODP as they attack on a conceptual level. And even then, tney are a power that impose the absolute concept of Death sourced from Akasha itself, meaning that even a conceptual defense cannot protect you from it with as absolute concepts are the highest you can go in terms of potency. You'd require something that counters the ability down to its nature. Like Souren Araya's Origin, which makes him a static organism that lacks any form change, which Death count as. Being removed from the cycle of reincarnation (But even that only results into an advanced concept of death that could be bypassed given enough time). Or lacking a concept of Death entirely, meaning that there is nothing for the user to visualize and bring forth. However MBAA implied that Ryougi's MEODP evolved enough that she can instill the concept of Death in beings that lacks it. So even that may not help.
Needless to say, Sieg/Karna/Herc have none of that in the first place, as such they would die.
knk so underrated
Nice video, what you said got me thinking. Can mystic eyes kill noble phantasms and if so can it specifically kill excalibur or EA.
Only IF the user of the mystic eyes can properly see their death lines. Or in the case of Void Shiki, she might as well hit the Ctrl+alt+delete combo on the Heroic Spirit concept 😂.
I like and like this video. I like that you make videos
Tohno shiki and ryougo shiki related to the first Hassan please make a video
Both of these Shiki's eyes are related to Cu's grandfather, one to use it very effectively without doing much labors work.
I want these eyes. Somebody get me them, STAT!!
What about the Mystic Eyes of Life from the actual Shiki Tohno
How it's work it's that, that eyes can only show you the origin of a life, you strike them but it doesn't have the guaranteed death unless you really hit it on the most vital point. Basically the eyes allows you to Crit Strike your opponent. For MEoDP those lines acts as their death when cut. It actualized death.
Ah yes MEODP the ability to kill people by just stabing them
So how would you beat them? Surely a power that strong must have a weakness
they are still human beings limited by the capabilities of their bodies. There are plenty of superhumans and monsters that make it a massive challenge for them to actually make use of their abilities since they actually have to manage to stab/slice them to make use of their ability.
Case in point Tohno vs Vlov is peak example of it and how Shiki needed external help to even be able to win.
@@MokonaModokiES oh so like a character that has high grade telepathy would win?
@@Dogofwar9 Strong vampires have telepathy so that's not really a problem for Tohno when he's kill-mode. The best option would simply be to long range AOE them or be super bullshit since challenging them directly in close range is foolish. We see in MB that even Arc wouldn't do such a thing against a wildcard like Shiki. But Tohno does show some ranged application in Remake so they're very versatile. The very best defense would be to not have a death that's easily visible but even that seems to have workarounds.
@@putsagatinmeltyblood7679 an aoe like what? Gilgamesh/enkidu’s EA? Or like Karna’s np? Sorry Ive never played melty blood, garden of sinners or tsukihime so I really dont get how they work.
@@Dogofwar9 I just said AoE so as to more easily 'hit' them with like a stray attack. Though I'm not sure that would work since as we see in Tsukihime when Shiki kills something it loses all meaning such as momentum and such. The eyes can kill anything the user perceives as alive which includes basically everything you can think of so it is very versatile. So it really just comes down to what the author wants to write.
Yes! More! Let me lick the Eye's!!!
Can u explain pure eyes?
Share the same eyes with the same name
They also be having a hidden background of demon hunters as well, lol. They're clans were also "very close" too. They are also somewhat demons in a way aswell and beyond.
So I've been wondering. Does MEODP also works on a pure cybernetic organism or robot?
Only defense against it is Avalon.
Nope, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can bypass intangible, so it completely bypasses Avalon, the healing from Avalon wouldn't even be usable because cutting death lines and points if death results in an instant death
what’s the difference between the shikis and king hassan’s authority over death ???
The power to kill servants
I need shiki ryougi in melty blood type lunmina
Can you make a video explaining how to read or watch all of stukiheme pls 🙏
Attempt 35 of asking you to do a video on white wolf's world of darkness
Can the mystic eye cut Avalon
Can we have videos about the different mystic eyes aub
how strong is jeanne d'arc
So....do they still work if they get cataracts? Is it affected by near/far sightness? Can Shiki peer through a telescope and shoot projectiles to kill aliens?
Yes you don’t need eyes to perceive death
Dows tanamo cat have any good feats
Show name?
Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai
Hey so, do any of the Hassan have the Mystic Eyes of Death? Or any other type of Mystic Eyes?
Im not as informed about a lot of the lore.
Any help would be appreciated.
need a vlov vid
What shows actually come from the tsukihime verse?
Tsukihime, Kagetsu tohya(fandisk like hollow ataraxia for fate stay night) and melty blood(spin off fighting game series). Thats it.
also its all VN games. No animes(no the 2002 JC staff garbage is not a tsukihime anime, its an anime but not tsukihime anime)
Tono wiped out Berserker Hercules in a second. It was Tsukihime x Fate cross-over.
A freaking Demi-God that got done in by a mortal. That right there just scales how powerful these eyes are and how crazy the mental fortitude of these wherein most beings would claw their own eyes out if they ever use it personally.
Loved how Shirou put Roa in the Backfoot. Finished off by Tono though but just shows the Shiros own fortitude against an dead apostle.
So that was a fanfic lol.
Shiki would never be able to kill Hercules the way shirou did. He’s not fast enough.
@@r.k845 there's a cross-over manga actually.
@@renton0915 It’s not official
@@r.k845
May not have been official but damn the ideas are interesting. Though I'll admit. It's odd to see Hercules dying. Maybe if the Remake version was here. Possibly?
@@renton0915its fanmade. Typemoon didnt make it. It was just some random fans doing it
name of the anime ?
Bro What anime is that please tell me 🙏
? Kara no Kyokai/Garden of Sinners 1-8/9 movies, all in un-chronological orders with the female chicken in a leather red coat.
The dude is from Tsukihime/Moon Princess (remake) only a visual novel game but the anime may take centuries to come. 7 routes for 7 heroine's is a lot that F/SN 3 main girls.
What show is this exactly from or movie ik fate but what sequel
@@PureWhiteOrganism you forgot Tsukihime (2000) which is important because the remake isn't finished.
@@PureWhiteOrganism they still are when they keep referencing them even on remake. Kouma bringing up everything from KT that still hasnt been remade. Some of the fate series refering to the old Dead apostle ancestor list like Strange Fake.
and well Neco arc being straight up summoned from the OG tsukihime into remake by her own words in her arcade intro.
pretty much just take it as the usual "alternate timeline, everything is canon and nothing ever loses relevance"
@@PureWhiteOrganism
There only canon in their own verse secretly from the Tsukihime Remake and the newer melty blood.
Hey guys today I found a Fate fan game and now I'm curious. Anyone knows any Fate fan games?
fate/empire of dirt
@@marlonanthonyy Oh 😂
That was the one I was talking about.
But thank you.
What series or films are these from?
Kara no Kyoukai(light novels/movies) and Tsukihime(Visual novel/Game)
goku wins
Jokes aside, they are one the few characters that can actually kill goku. Hilarious
Either of the Shikis are infinitely faster than canon Goku (Can speedblitz characters that can process a reality consisting of layers each having a cosmos in it in a nanosecond) and MEODP does not care about his physical durability since it erases the very concept/meaning of an individual. Not sure if they are faster than TOEI Goku though since he seems to have speed on a vaguely similar tier.
Void Shiki blinks composite DB with a thought.
First damn