Gotta love how it's canon Greece has never had a grail war cuz someone always summons him and everyone else says "im out" cuz there he gets even more powers, plus support from the gods of Olympus🤣
@SergioBocanegra though my main man Cú would be pretty op, its not like he's without weakness (offering him the flesh of a dog would be more than enough, he must accept hospitality, and is cursed if he eats dog meat), and many other irish servants are incredibly powerful as well. And either way, he has the luck of a lancer, and the luck of the irish, if its above an F he'll be doing quite well.
ok but for real now, I'd love to see a greek holy grail war where at least half the field is just different forms of Heracles, with the rest being straight up greek gods (maybe with Hades as a ruler just to keep things in check with the sheer ammount of power going around)
Another reason I think he was able to break through Enkidu the way he was, is in one of his legends, he broke through similar chains made by gods meant to restrain a TITAN, in this case prometheus. So, as it's part of his legend, no matter how small, I genuinely believe heracles will ALWAYS have the capacity to break the chains of heaven, it's just MUCH harder when he's using divinity.
@@Sc7ut Nah, it is purely a reflection of his indomitable will. In 20 years Nasu still has not claimed there is any other reason but “He was just that good”, and this is the man who literally clarified details like “Archer secretly used a second Rho Aias to protect Shirou from Gil” to explain something no one asked.
Enkidu works more on heroic spirits with divinity, the higher the divinity the stronger/tighter the chains are, but If they are not of divinity but normal super human like Heracles to which he gave up his divinity after the use of his last life to easily break away from the chains of heaven/Enkidu. That’s how I see It
Well that's more because he appears in a lot of fate stories a and is always a major character in all of them If he wasn't a major character (either Ally or Villain) he was dying off screen to some BS god hacks like Artemis cannon lmfao
@@allthatishere That may be true, but only when he is put in almost impossible situations. Sakura and an infinite mana Saber-Alt, at the same time, and he still fought for a LONG time.
@@emiyashirou1858 Zero is probably the best in the cycle and papa Emiya/Tohsaka are both pretty cool characters. Heracles is just... Simpler... Which fits pretty good with a simpleminded murder golem I think. Anyway, I wasn't trying to slander the other Fate dads(Even if Heracles is my favourite). They're p cool
Humbaba Gilgamesh Enkidu Alcides Horseman of Plague Jack The Ripper King Richard Hippolyta Alexandre Dumas Hassan Candidate Watcher Prelati Male Hassan-I-Sabbah Nothing but insane
I mean given the line up, Alcides may actually be on the mid to lower end of that scale, Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Humbaba, Ishtar, and oh right, Gugalanna, are all stronger than him.
Natsu had to have fun coming up with all these busted concepts for Heroic Spirits and then placing woefully under prepared protagonists in front front of them
Only If Herc wasn’t ever held back, but we all should be well aware that IF Gilgamesh actually wanted to win the grail war he’d easily win It the night or two when It starts but hey It’s Gil, I’d say both are good In their own area’s of what they can do
@@alispeed5095 yeah no joke yhey just nerf heracles/hercules so much it just down grade plot situation but they did show how broken herc was in his archer class so broken he can rival the god/calamity fate servant and more and they just nerf him
Will technically berserker in media as a whole is the weakest version of a (insert character) because they lose their rationale in exchange for pure raw power.
@@Markcus003 and like every other classes, it depends on who as well. Ashvattman for example is unstoppable if he ever summoned as a Berserker. And like you pointed out, it could also mean that a Berserker capable of reason is more dangerous than your average berserker
I dunno, I heard he would have been un-hesitant to slaughter his master if he/she (unless its a child) dared to summon him as an Assassin or Rider. Must be some deep shame for him to be against those classes while being okay with being Berserker.
I think one of the saddest thing about Heracles and Medea is that their friendship was never shown. From what I've read, after leaving Jason, Medea helped Heracles cure the madness Hera set on him. Some time after, Heracles basically kept Medea safe in his kingdom but was forced to let her go because of her reputation.
Yep honestly it kinda irks me that in the ubw route Rin mentioned when they wanted to team up with Illya because Archer switched to Medea's team that Medea and Herc hated each other.... Bruh
@@erenkruger5760 Medea doesn’t hate Hercules, she just doesn’t like muscular men (no seriously). It’s all but implied that she is just neutral to him, she doesn’t dislike him but she doesn’t like him either
The biggest implication about him tanking LB Artemis is that Nasu makes a very clear distinction between "Anti-World" and "Anti-Planet". "Anti-World" tears through the layers that are on each planet, like the Far Side of the World for instance. Anti-Planet, which was LB Artemis, straight-up obliterates everything, layers be damned. And he STILL took it.
@@adzhanitristan6756 yeah she's pretty solid. Her anti female bonus on her NP helps her do decent damage against enemies that aren't Riders. She's pretty useful,and helped me alot when I started.
I feel like this title should be sent to Type-Moon. They've done nothing but sleep on Heracles for years. Berserker Heracles in original Fate was cool (if not used often for the Worf Effect). And I appreciate what Strange/Fake has been doing overall. But this is arguably the most famous mythological figure on the planet. There should be way more examples of what this guy can do when sane and in other classes.
I mean you say that, but my mans also made a video called Don’t Sleep on Gilgamesh, so at this point I’m almost 100% sure it’s just the title of his series.
I just made a post on Reddit where I commented that I wanted to see Tsiah make a “Don’t SLEEP on HERACLES” video and low and behold, we finally get justice for our man Herc.
Fate heracles is by far my favorite version of heracles adaptation, because it is the only one I have seen that does justice to his mythological version, the fact that he is so strong and skilled in combat that his weakest class is the one where he sacrifices his skill in order to give it more strength (which is not very useful because it is already ridiculously strong on its own) is something that I love, because Heracles was the greatest Roman and Greek hero (who valued strength, wisdom and intelligence equally). It's a breath of fresh air compared to the Western media, where he is portrayed as a brainless brute.
Heracles is so damn busted strong in fate that his berserker version is considered one of the strongest servants you can possibly summon and it's his WEAKEST version. He literally has none of his tactics or rational, he's bodying people left and right while being literally insane. He is running the ones on pure instinct
Or his weapons Side note for fgo players you know that sword thing castoria uses in her 3rd ascension that is stupidly broken? Yeah, that was originally Hercs sword.
One of my favorite things about Berzerkules' design is the way they mashed up Hercules/Heracles with the Nemean lion, he doesn't need weapons, and neither did the lion, they're both immune to weapons forged by man, and both have wild, animalistic instincts and senses, which is also somewhat inline with his original legend, he could only beat it by doing so at it's own game, a lot like Beowulf, actually. I've heard roman generals would admonish unruly soldiers by saying that, if they think they don't need the aid of the military weapons and support in battle, then they should charge in naked with a stick, like Hercules.
And proto heracles is just broken so much so that nasu had to change his god hand to 11 promised Victory to 11 lives as he is considered a "being that cannot lose" and he only died because gilgamesh proto has an np that makes him "certain to live"
then again Berserker is Heracles', weakest class, while everyone else is in their strongest except Sasaki, Artoria, as saber, Emiya as archer, Cu as lancer, Medea as caster, and Medusa as Rider, though both Artoria and Medusa were nerfed because of their masters, Herc was starting off with a major handicap
@@aviniciussouza100 I mean can YOU win against him? 😂 As far as I can tell you're just a scrub behind a screen talking smack about a figure that symbolise growth and strength, being well known throughout the entire planet as a heroic figure, unless you can get the level of accomplishment that topped of him or even the most insignificant of historical figure around the globe i'd suggest you shut your bum ass up
I forget who said this but someone posted a video and put him st the tip top of A tier, calling him the benchmark for Ex tier. I will accept that answer
The more you find out about the 5th Grail War Servants, the more you realize all of them could solo the war under the right conditions. I just believe Herc is the one that requires the least conditions to do so, and I’m a Sasaki fan lol
Let’s go! It’s finally time for the OG Berserker! All these new fake Berserkers wannabes better run. As Cjdachamp once said that DBZ Broly was the Giga-n***a 9000. I hereby declare Heracles as the Ultra-n***a 12000! If you object take it up with him. He ain’t got a pair of Black Air Forces. That cause he doesn’t need them he is Black Air Forces incarnate! You know he’s at the BAF round table in the Fate verse. He’s probably the leader.
PS: I just thought of something. So technically in his Berserker form he actually had two NPs right? His base one being his 12-labors. Giving him 12 lives. But also technically his 9-lives NP. Now the only problem since he’s a Berserker with Mad-Enhancement. He’s not mentally prepared to use it right? My question, Why didn’t Illy just use one of her Command Seals to Force him to activate it at anytime/fight!? Kinda like how Berserker Lancelot can disguise himself as an enemy if his master commands it. That would help out with so much trouble! Damn Illy is dumb. PSS: Also just want to say that Berserk vs Salter fight is still to me, one of the best things to came out of the HF film trilogy. I think they show off what both these top tier Servents could do excellently. That’s what a fight between Servents/Heroics Spirits should look like! Imagine that irl.
We are not the ones sleeping on him, is the series itself ridiculing each chance it had just because he is never "the main good/bad guy". In FSN he is just used as a foil to show how strong other people are by comparing to him (Archer can give him a fight and take half his lives, Artoria with hax almost entirely obliterates him, Gil can no diff him, Shirou in his weakest can create a perfect copy of Camiburn to take more than half his lives, etc). His is more of a big punching bag that only had real relevance on the first days just to introduce Illya as a potential menace and that's it. He literally has been nerfed since the very beginning of his appearance. Early Fate and FGO has been very unfair with one of the greatest Greek heroes. Later FGO and Fate works have been a lot more fair with him and his feats.
@@HachannEinzbern People like you really be sleeping on Saber Alter ngl. She can boost her strength to be on the same level as Herc, and Salter having D rank Agility doesn’t mean anything when not even Medusa ranking it down to E rank with her mystic eyes could blitz her. So no, Saber Alter does not need the Shadow to beat Herc, she just took advantage of the situation since the Shadow does what it wants.
@@HachannEinzbern You can’t just focus on stats like that mate. For one, higher Agility doesn’t necessarily mean the Servant is faster. Saber had C rank Agility and yet she’s still faster than Sasaki with his A+ rank Agility. Saber Alter has a lower rank of Agility, but she’s still faster for the simple fact that Saber under Shirou always has to hold back her power and energy usage, while Saber Alter can just propel herself with Mana Burst at full speed constantly without the worry of using up her energy reserves. Second of all, you putting too much weight on a rank down of Instinct when that barely matters, it’s still a B rank and doesn’t affect her in any meaningful way. It has been said that Saber Alter’s strength is equal to Herc’s on account of her just upping her Mana Burst, and that was clearly shown even in the movies. Rider is not the weakest servant in the war by far. Have you seen her in HF? She can go toe to toe with a fully powered Saber for a long period of time. Rider would be the weakest if her Master is Shinji, but under Sakura she’s the fastest servant in the war and can utilize her Monstrous Strength skill and Mystic Eyes to make herself a formidable foe against everyone else in the war. To top this all off, love how you mention OG Saber couldn’t keep up with Herc when that was her being heavily nerfed by Shirou. OG Saber with Rin as her Master would mop the floor with Herc.
@@OdaNobunaga15 it would be interesting, but if we go by his myths, he'd probably use the poison blood of the hydra in combination with the birds to deliver death from afar without having to be directly engaged, falling back on archery and hand to hand combat when necessary.
@@OdaNobunaga15 that could work too. I just personally really like the idea of long Ranged assassin class servants and honestly, why wouldn't an assassin use the most potent poison in all mythology?
@@sleepylmguy9968 To be fair, the GOW version is about the same size as the Fate version. But other than that, it would be an epic fight between the both of them.
You know… kinda off topic but in Prillya, when Illya used both Berserker and Rider card she unlocked Gorgon ….do you think she’ll unlock Alcides if she had the chance to use Berserker and Archer card?
This video is fated, the moment I played fgo I got him, a triple Invincibility CE, a triple evasion at the same time and eventually his bond CE , it's the closest I got to the original true Heracles
Yosh!!! Another great vid I've been waiting for, a noble prize for this golden effort of yours is not enough justice, Thanks! Now I understand why two insanely powerful servants of Stay Night (Gilgamesh and Salter) had to use under-handed tactics to beat him. That said though, I still want to see what he is really like under his true form.
@@yancgc5098 Would've, Could've, Should've. All hypothetical descriptions, all that matters to me are what were shown. On-screen display results clearly convince me she cheaped out in her victory.
Einzberns knew they had to summon Heracles in his weaker Berserker form because if they had summoned him in a proper state of mind he would immediately rescue Illya from them.
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The moment he told Gilgamesh in fake strange to pull out EA was epic
no one cares
@@samukajabateh1640 honestly Hercules with his mind intact is a scary concept.
Seemed like he just wanted to yoik away EA or attempt too
@@dinogt8477 I care
@@dinklepiss You're no one
Gotta love how it's canon Greece has never had a grail war cuz someone always summons him and everyone else says "im out" cuz there he gets even more powers, plus support from the gods of Olympus🤣
Him being summoned in Greece is like BB in the moon cell. Actually game-breaking
So if a grail war happens in Ireland Cú will finally get the glory he deserves
@SergioBocanegra though my main man Cú would be pretty op, its not like he's without weakness (offering him the flesh of a dog would be more than enough, he must accept hospitality, and is cursed if he eats dog meat), and many other irish servants are incredibly powerful as well.
And either way, he has the luck of a lancer, and the luck of the irish, if its above an F he'll be doing quite well.
ok but for real now, I'd love to see a greek holy grail war where at least half the field is just different forms of Heracles, with the rest being straight up greek gods (maybe with Hades as a ruler just to keep things in check with the sheer ammount of power going around)
You know the greek wars are in a bad spot when fucking Achilles himself is still an Auto lose since that means someone has Herc
Hercules fans explaining how he could solo the whole war:
As princess Illya put it: BASAKA SEKAI SEIKO!
@@WildArtistsl BASAKA WA SEKAI DE ICHIBAN TSUYOI DAKARA
@@b-lotus5145 thank-you!
rat
he actually can, have you played grail front?
Another reason I think he was able to break through Enkidu the way he was, is in one of his legends, he broke through similar chains made by gods meant to restrain a TITAN, in this case prometheus. So, as it's part of his legend, no matter how small, I genuinely believe heracles will ALWAYS have the capacity to break the chains of heaven, it's just MUCH harder when he's using divinity.
I totally forgot that. CONCIDERING what the Olympics 12 were mecha monsters originally he's a menace
@@Sc7ut Nah, it is purely a reflection of his indomitable will. In 20 years Nasu still has not claimed there is any other reason but “He was just that good”, and this is the man who literally clarified details like “Archer secretly used a second Rho Aias to protect Shirou from Gil” to explain something no one asked.
Enkidu works more on heroic spirits with divinity, the higher the divinity the stronger/tighter the chains are, but If they are not of divinity but normal super human like Heracles to which he gave up his divinity after the use of his last life to easily break away from the chains of heaven/Enkidu. That’s how I see It
Alcides should be able to break Enkidu without problem. It's just a tough chain if the target is not divine.
@@alrescha3429 Gilgamesh has wrapped enkidu around his own arm while using it to restrain normal foes as if they had Divinity.
It says something that Heracles is so crazy in canon that his actions in the complete comedy series AREN'T EXAGGERATIONS.
Facts
Being a transformer is ccan't for Heracles
Worst is that the comedic feats are his worst feats
The length of the video goes to show how much you shouldn’t sleep on heracles
Unless you want demigod children....
Damn dude while I'm listening to this I read your comment and I checked: HOLY SHIIIIIIIT
Well that's more because he appears in a lot of fate stories a and is always a major character in all of them
If he wasn't a major character (either Ally or Villain) he was dying off screen to some BS god hacks like Artemis cannon lmfao
I get that he's strong, but he repeatedly gets clapped in literally every arc.
@@allthatishere That may be true, but only when he is put in almost impossible situations. Sakura and an infinite mana Saber-Alt, at the same time, and he still fought for a LONG time.
Not to forget he's the only father figure in Stay Night that doesn't need a prequel to explain why they missing
his greatest power
Dude says that like it's a bad thing lmao, a lot of character in zero is cool, plus it expands on what stay night left on air
@@emiyashirou1858 Zero is probably the best in the cycle and papa Emiya/Tohsaka are both pretty cool characters. Heracles is just... Simpler... Which fits pretty good with a simpleminded murder golem I think. Anyway, I wasn't trying to slander the other Fate dads(Even if Heracles is my favourite). They're p cool
In strange fake, everyone is overpower, so everything balances each other.
Humbaba
Gilgamesh
Enkidu
Alcides
Horseman of Plague
Jack The Ripper
King Richard
Hippolyta
Alexandre Dumas
Hassan Candidate
Watcher
Prelati Male
Hassan-I-Sabbah
Nothing but insane
I mean given the line up, Alcides may actually be on the mid to lower end of that scale, Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Humbaba, Ishtar, and oh right, Gugalanna, are all stronger than him.
@@ahkilleuskosmos6836 and his true self is stronger and less arrogant than Alcides
@@ahkilleuskosmos6836 yes.
But in a way , Alcides is perfect for that HGW , because he can steal NPs.
@@durrangodsgrief6503but his true self also got that divinity which makes him vulnerable to gill’s chains
Natsu had to have fun coming up with all these busted concepts for Heroic Spirits and then placing woefully under prepared protagonists in front front of them
lol
Don't sleep on Gilgamesh- 38 minutes
Don't sleep on Heracles- 42 minutes
Herc wins
Nah I refuse XDDD
Only If Herc wasn’t ever held back, but we all should be well aware that IF Gilgamesh actually wanted to win the grail war he’d easily win It the night or two when It starts but hey It’s Gil, I’d say both are good In their own area’s of what they can do
@@alispeed5095 your right but still the third grail war was metal.
Funny cuz most of gilgamesh's don't sleep on him video is about him bodying Heracles multiple times.
@@alispeed5095 yeah no joke yhey just nerf heracles/hercules so much it just down grade plot situation but they did show how broken herc was in his archer class so broken he can rival the god/calamity fate servant and more and they just nerf him
someone: Heracles is OP
Heracles: I am not OP, I am the power and no one is over me
Thia,Gugalana,Gilgamesh,Enkidu, and pale rider: Stop the cap
@@Ultimate0Phantasm he one shotted gugulana.
@@Psvu636 Thats Alcides who is stacked with Anti divine stuff
@@Ultimate0Phantasm nah just the hydra venom
@@Psvu636 Read it again lmao
Believe it or not, his berserker form is him at his weakest.
Will technically berserker in media as a whole is the weakest version of a (insert character) because they lose their rationale in exchange for pure raw power.
@@Markcus003 and like every other classes, it depends on who as well. Ashvattman for example is unstoppable if he ever summoned as a Berserker.
And like you pointed out, it could also mean that a Berserker capable of reason is more dangerous than your average berserker
@@Markcus003 Lancelot berserker is equal to saber Lancelot but Lancelot is a special case
I dunno, I heard he would have been un-hesitant to slaughter his master if he/she (unless its a child) dared to summon him as an Assassin or Rider. Must be some deep shame for him to be against those classes while being okay with being Berserker.
Yea a lot of people don't know this and always assume Berserker is Hercs strongest class
I think one of the saddest thing about Heracles and Medea is that their friendship was never shown.
From what I've read, after leaving Jason, Medea helped Heracles cure the madness Hera set on him.
Some time after, Heracles basically kept Medea safe in his kingdom but was forced to let her go because of her reputation.
Being honest there is a chance that he may get hit by ruelbreaker on purpose if he was sane but it might not even work because of God hand's
Yep honestly it kinda irks me that in the ubw route Rin mentioned when they wanted to team up with Illya because Archer switched to Medea's team that Medea and Herc hated each other.... Bruh
@@erenkruger5760 Medea doesn’t hate Hercules, she just doesn’t like muscular men (no seriously). It’s all but implied that she is just neutral to him, she doesn’t dislike him but she doesn’t like him either
@@deepsoul8034 yes I know that what I meant in my comment was Rin telling Shirou that Medea hates Herc in UBW when they were going to illya's mansion
In FGO, Medea Lily is fond of Heracles. Regular Medea just wants those muscles away as always.
The biggest implication about him tanking LB Artemis is that Nasu makes a very clear distinction between "Anti-World" and "Anti-Planet". "Anti-World" tears through the layers that are on each planet, like the Far Side of the World for instance. Anti-Planet, which was LB Artemis, straight-up obliterates everything, layers be damned. And he STILL took it.
HE toke it twice
My first 4star servant when I started fgo. I've been wide awake on the boy for the almost a decade.
God bless Heracles.
@@Sc7ut Hope you get Herc and either Emyia or Carmilla in the same roll.
Same here bro, same here
@@YamiKaiba because his currently at his weakest class, he would have been 5 if he was summoned as an Archer
@@trontosaurusrex9532 wait Carmilla is good?
@@adzhanitristan6756 yeah she's pretty solid. Her anti female bonus on her NP helps her do decent damage against enemies that aren't Riders. She's pretty useful,and helped me alot when I started.
"This is some real Black Airforce Energy" had me reeling
When madness enhancement is more of a nerf than a boost, being the strongest AND the smartest bro is literally kratos
I feel like this title should be sent to Type-Moon. They've done nothing but sleep on Heracles for years. Berserker Heracles in original Fate was cool (if not used often for the Worf Effect). And I appreciate what Strange/Fake has been doing overall. But this is arguably the most famous mythological figure on the planet. There should be way more examples of what this guy can do when sane and in other classes.
who tf is sleeping on freakin Hercules lol
Um his wife and to be honest I can't blame her
More like he's giving his old man a run for his money based on the number of people they have sleept on
I mean you say that, but my mans also made a video called Don’t Sleep on Gilgamesh, so at this point I’m almost 100% sure it’s just the title of his series.
Just dont sleep on any servants In particular Its the best thing about his channel Including every other video’s Tsiah posts
Just dont sleep on any servants In particular Its the best thing about his channel Including every other video’s Tsiah posts
I just made a post on Reddit where I commented that I wanted to see Tsiah make a “Don’t SLEEP on HERACLES” video and low and behold, we finally get justice for our man Herc.
Fate heracles is by far my favorite version of heracles adaptation, because it is the only one I have seen that does justice to his mythological version, the fact that he is so strong and skilled in combat that his weakest class is the one where he sacrifices his skill in order to give it more strength (which is not very useful because it is already ridiculously strong on its own) is something that I love, because Heracles was the greatest Roman and Greek hero (who valued strength, wisdom and intelligence equally). It's a breath of fresh air compared to the Western media, where he is portrayed as a brainless brute.
It had to be done. The OG Berserker. The Greek 0 to Hero.
He was never a 0 pal, don't take disney as a source
Heracles is so damn busted strong in fate that his berserker version is considered one of the strongest servants you can possibly summon and it's his WEAKEST version. He literally has none of his tactics or rational, he's bodying people left and right while being literally insane. He is running the ones on pure instinct
Or his weapons
Side note for fgo players you know that sword thing castoria uses in her 3rd ascension that is stupidly broken? Yeah, that was originally Hercs sword.
One of my favorite things about Berzerkules' design is the way they mashed up Hercules/Heracles with the Nemean lion, he doesn't need weapons, and neither did the lion, they're both immune to weapons forged by man, and both have wild, animalistic instincts and senses, which is also somewhat inline with his original legend, he could only beat it by doing so at it's own game, a lot like Beowulf, actually.
I've heard roman generals would admonish unruly soldiers by saying that, if they think they don't need the aid of the military weapons and support in battle, then they should charge in naked with a stick, like Hercules.
I'm so happy I sat here listening to Tsiah praise Heracles for an hour 😁
Let's have a moment to talk about how this video is longer than the dont sleep on gilgamesh video
They do think highly of each other, its only natural it comes close.
Hercules is like Dbz Broly. Big as fuck but still maintains his speed.
I'm not sleeping on Heracles, I wanna sleep WITH Heracles
You stay back, me first 😤
Aw hell nahw
@@swiggydswirl330calm guys, herc got space for us all at the same time
Ayo????
@@The_lord_of_ultramar Still stand by it
And proto heracles is just broken so much so that nasu had to change his god hand to 11 promised Victory to 11 lives as he is considered a "being that cannot lose" and he only died because gilgamesh proto has an np that makes him "certain to live"
The fact that his Berserker feats aren't even jackshit for the feats he could do in any of his other forms where his mind is intact.
You’re basically saying, the only thing that can defeat, this man is plot
True man
Heracles is the definition of “lite work no reaction”
Hercules- despite being the strongest servant the devs cant let him win a fight
He beat EMIYA but true. Its not an uncommon trope with the strongest characters
then again Berserker is Heracles', weakest class, while everyone else is in their strongest except Sasaki, Artoria, as saber, Emiya as archer, Cu as lancer, Medea as caster, and Medusa as Rider, though both Artoria and Medusa were nerfed because of their masters, Herc was starting off with a major handicap
@@damiansaturday6788 Imagine if illya summoned him as an archer and rin summoned emiya as a berserker the war would be over in 5 minutes
@@GodShadowdeath true,
@@aviniciussouza100 I mean can YOU win against him? 😂 As far as I can tell you're just a scrub behind a screen talking smack about a figure that symbolise growth and strength, being well known throughout the entire planet as a heroic figure, unless you can get the level of accomplishment that topped of him or even the most insignificant of historical figure around the globe i'd suggest you shut your bum ass up
Axe I literally made of rocks. Truly an unga bunga moment
Hercules is Best boy. He is right up there with Karna and Asterios.
one of the most terrifying and intimidating characters ive ever seen
I forget who said this but someone posted a video and put him st the tip top of A tier, calling him the benchmark for Ex tier. I will accept that answer
I want a Fate Story where the main Servant is a sane Herc (idc which class tbh) I mean even in Strange we don't get the real him
Would be interesting to see an uncorrupted Saber or Lancer version. It seems like he's cursed to always have a tweaked summoning.
grand saber herc lmao
@@micah_-iv7liwe both no he can’t be grand saner that spot is reserved for an artoria face 😂
@@TsiahIVhes just like that so they gotta do that
That moment when he crossed hundreds of meters in a sec in heavens fell's was majestic
I love that carnival phantasm is on the example list
Tsiah please I haven’t slept in days
As you shouldn't
@@TsiahIV💀
The more you find out about the 5th Grail War Servants, the more you realize all of them could solo the war under the right conditions. I just believe Herc is the one that requires the least conditions to do so, and I’m a Sasaki fan lol
So you telling me that this guy… this guy is a four star in Fate Grand Order?!?
Yup and that makes him harder to get because 4 stars don't have a pity system.
The moment hercules become sane, its was saddest moment or rare moment to be see.
I was waiting for this since the "Don't sleep on..." Series started.♥️
I was not expecting a 42 minute video that's for sure.
You and me both
Can we get a don’t sleep on Tamamo-No-Mae I want to see she can do.
Let’s go! It’s finally time for the OG Berserker! All these new fake Berserkers wannabes better run. As Cjdachamp once said that DBZ Broly was the Giga-n***a 9000. I hereby declare Heracles as the Ultra-n***a 12000! If you object take it up with him. He ain’t got a pair of Black Air Forces. That cause he doesn’t need them he is Black Air Forces incarnate! You know he’s at the BAF round table in the Fate verse. He’s probably the leader.
PS: I just thought of something. So technically in his Berserker form he actually had two NPs right? His base one being his 12-labors. Giving him 12 lives. But also technically his 9-lives NP. Now the only problem since he’s a Berserker with Mad-Enhancement. He’s not mentally prepared to use it right? My question, Why didn’t Illy just use one of her Command Seals to Force him to activate it at anytime/fight!? Kinda like how Berserker Lancelot can disguise himself as an enemy if his master commands it. That would help out with so much trouble! Damn Illy is dumb.
PSS: Also just want to say that Berserk vs Salter fight is still to me, one of the best things to came out of the HF film trilogy. I think they show off what both these top tier Servents could do excellently. That’s what a fight between Servents/Heroics Spirits should look like! Imagine that irl.
Herc got them Black Air Sandals from Mt. Olympus, hand-crafted by the Gods to even **TRY** and match his sheer menace energy
nah leader of the forces in fate gotta be kirei but herc definitely on the council
The ace of the "should have been a 5 star" club
I'm pretty sure it was established that he was op as F@$& after he jumped towards someone and broke the sound barrier in the process.
It's finally here 🙏🏾
We are not the ones sleeping on him, is the series itself ridiculing each chance it had just because he is never "the main good/bad guy". In FSN he is just used as a foil to show how strong other people are by comparing to him (Archer can give him a fight and take half his lives, Artoria with hax almost entirely obliterates him, Gil can no diff him, Shirou in his weakest can create a perfect copy of Camiburn to take more than half his lives, etc). His is more of a big punching bag that only had real relevance on the first days just to introduce Illya as a potential menace and that's it. He literally has been nerfed since the very beginning of his appearance.
Early Fate and FGO has been very unfair with one of the greatest Greek heroes.
Later FGO and Fate works have been a lot more fair with him and his feats.
Well we do have the bad ends
Artoria with hax? What are you even talking about? Full power Artoria still beats a full powered Herc bruh, no question about it.
@@HachannEinzbern People like you really be sleeping on Saber Alter ngl. She can boost her strength to be on the same level as Herc, and Salter having D rank Agility doesn’t mean anything when not even Medusa ranking it down to E rank with her mystic eyes could blitz her. So no, Saber Alter does not need the Shadow to beat Herc, she just took advantage of the situation since the Shadow does what it wants.
@@yancgc5098 *nearly gets rekt by shirou *
@@HachannEinzbern You can’t just focus on stats like that mate. For one, higher Agility doesn’t necessarily mean the Servant is faster. Saber had C rank Agility and yet she’s still faster than Sasaki with his A+ rank Agility. Saber Alter has a lower rank of Agility, but she’s still faster for the simple fact that Saber under Shirou always has to hold back her power and energy usage, while Saber Alter can just propel herself with Mana Burst at full speed constantly without the worry of using up her energy reserves. Second of all, you putting too much weight on a rank down of Instinct when that barely matters, it’s still a B rank and doesn’t affect her in any meaningful way. It has been said that Saber Alter’s strength is equal to Herc’s on account of her just upping her Mana Burst, and that was clearly shown even in the movies.
Rider is not the weakest servant in the war by far. Have you seen her in HF? She can go toe to toe with a fully powered Saber for a long period of time. Rider would be the weakest if her Master is Shinji, but under Sakura she’s the fastest servant in the war and can utilize her Monstrous Strength skill and Mystic Eyes to make herself a formidable foe against everyone else in the war.
To top this all off, love how you mention OG Saber couldn’t keep up with Herc when that was her being heavily nerfed by Shirou. OG Saber with Rin as her Master would mop the floor with Herc.
His alter is one of my favorite servants and I meant alcides
Let’s go HERACLES!
Tsiah: don’t sleep Heracles
Me: who in there dang mind would sleep on this beast?!?!
20:51: great now he's also Doomsday.
Friendly reminder, he is also available in all classes except Caster and is considered top tier in all of them except Berserker.
I’m curious as to how an Assassin Class Heracles would work. He seems like the least most Assassin type lol.
@@OdaNobunaga15 it would be interesting, but if we go by his myths, he'd probably use the poison blood of the hydra in combination with the birds to deliver death from afar without having to be directly engaged, falling back on archery and hand to hand combat when necessary.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 He would sneak behind people and snap their necks with Pankration with his quick speed and no one would notice him.
@@OdaNobunaga15 that could work too. I just personally really like the idea of long Ranged assassin class servants and honestly, why wouldn't an assassin use the most potent poison in all mythology?
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Agreed. I imagine that Assassin Heracles would just be Archer Heracles but a lot more stealthy (and using the Hydra poison).
I like how we spent most of the video talking about the nerfed weaker version of him
Watching kratos beat the shit out of Hercules and seeing this video drop is the best.
Imagine summoning Kratos as a servant
Kratos would either be an Avenger or Berserker but Avenger for the best, also extra damage to zeus to the utmost
Imagine Kratos comes to the fate universe, looking for round 2. But instead of the GOW version he runs into This big ass version.
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy young kratos is avenger, older kratos is berserker with sanity intact.
@@sleepylmguy9968 To be fair, the GOW version is about the same size as the Fate version. But other than that, it would be an epic fight between the both of them.
You know… kinda off topic but in Prillya, when Illya used both Berserker and Rider card she unlocked Gorgon
….do you think she’ll unlock Alcides if she had the chance to use Berserker and Archer card?
Homie no one that has ever seen Hercules in anything is sleeping on him.
She's just shooting marshmallows at him. Damn man idk where you be coming up with the lines
Heracles is the definition of Black Air Force energy
Big Stepper!!
Can’t wait for him to explain lostbelt 5.5
To be fair, Shinji usually deserves that one shot from Heracles and to have his remains strewn about is too easy of a way out for him.
This video is fated, the moment I played fgo I got him, a triple Invincibility CE, a triple evasion at the same time and eventually his bond CE , it's the closest I got to the original true Heracles
Ayo a 42 minute banger? Nice
Movie time
Yosh!!! Another great vid I've been waiting for, a noble prize for this golden effort of yours is not enough justice, Thanks!
Now I understand why two insanely powerful servants of Stay Night (Gilgamesh and Salter) had to use under-handed tactics to beat him. That said though, I still want to see what he is really like under his true form.
Salter would've still beaten Herc even without the Shadow, and Herc doesn't stand a chance against Gil unless he's summoned as an Archer.
@@yancgc5098 Would've, Could've, Should've. All hypothetical descriptions, all that matters to me are what were shown. On-screen display results clearly convince me she cheaped out in her victory.
Bro is the mahoraga of the fate universe
Bro i'm listened to this like a podcast for 43 minutes, and when it ended, all i could think was "Bro what the fuck?"
Ok 42 Minute Vid I was wondering why the video took so long to make.
Listing the all reasons not to sleep on Herc took 42 minutes, think about that for a second
Hercules the HIM of type moon
This the last and I mean very last servant anyone is sleeping on
7:07 Ngl I thought bro was about to say ''Just like shirou, he blow her back out''. Im sorrry man XDDD
Top 5 strongest beserker class in fate
Last time I was this early Angra was still alive
I'm shitting my pants if I'm in a holy grail war with heracles.
Been waiting for this one
To think this man is only a 4 star in fgo
Einzberns knew they had to summon Heracles in his weaker Berserker form because if they had summoned him in a proper state of mind he would immediately rescue Illya from them.
He's come in clutch with that Bond 10 craft essence for many FGO masters.
And all of these, at his NERFED state! This is beyond OP!!
Lettsss gooo where did you get the Fgo manga?
Berzer-car is simply PEAK HERACLES
Bro all these kicks Heracles is pulling, they gotta put him in blue lock
Hold this ex 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he's a straight goon and that's being generous well explained sir.
I love the way he explains it. He sounds so hype 😂
This video is my workout "music."
No one and I mean NO ONE should be sleeping on freaking Heracles he’s the GOD OF BLOODLY STREGTH
car heracles is the biggest feat
He's like Mahoraga but on steroids which is a crazy thing to say.
I wouldn't be surprised if some MF in the nasu verse destroyed a planet because they used Herc as a bullet.
Really wish they would give different versions of him in fgo
If herc Avenger stole a noble phantasm, does it mean he will own it permanently and he can steal an np 1 at a time?
He is great who sleeps on the demi god form Greek myth
Bruh brought out the basaCAR LMAO
Gimme sane Heracles and full powered Saber with Avalon, I wanna see it soooo much
Love this Guy
Since when does anyone sleep on herc!? Every time he shows up he fucks everybody up. Even if they live they still lose.